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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- I share my advice when it comes to buying a low mechanical keyboard like the infamous Logitech G915 TKL. amzn.to/3C64LQ9 (US) amzn.to/3sxcsMi (CA)
0:00 Intro 2 years of hype
0:34 Unboxing
0:49 Why red linear switches
1:52 First impressions
2:12 Low profile mechanical keyboards
3:17 Why tenkeyless (TKL) is preferred
4:54 Low profile linear red switches test and reaction
6:09 Reaction summary
6:49 Low profile vs standard profile
7:52 30 days later review summary
8:14 Pros
9:15 Cons
11:14 Conclusion and buying advice
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With all due respects, I have a different opinion. You start the review off saying you don't care about light-speed which is one of the biggest reasons why people do get this keyboard. As it is a very low latency wireless keyboard. In case you want to game, wirelessly, but not suffer form input lag. If you don't care about light-speed, just get a cheaper wired or bluetooth only version of this. They do exist and are less expensive. Second, you're saying you're missing out on tactile feeling but you chose red's and not browns, which are linear switches, not tactile. So basically you chose a non-tactile keyboard and you're missing out on the tactile feeling. That is not a surprise to me. Tactile is a big advantage in games like CS and other first person shooters, which is probably why you weren't feeling like you were getting the best experience. All of the pro's are things you don't care about, most of the cons are explainable because you chose the wrong switch. Apart from the wobbly keys which I do agree with. I have this keyboard (tactile) and I love this keyboard for CS. It seems to me your research was insufficient and this isn't the right keyboard for you anyway.
Agree with you 100% he just chose the wrong one. I have the g815 and I love. I’m actually getting another g815 right now lol.
I kinda find it funny that he even did a review, sorta weird. I was thinking the same thing, exactly, everything he said I was like, then why did you get that version? He even complained about the ten keyless, like, what man? You had to have actively seek out this very expensive keyboard with functions that you clearly would not like so that you could actively bash it. Anyways, wobbly keyboard is no big deal, I owned IBM original kb in 1982
This is exactly what I did. I dont care about wireless and rbg so I tried the g413 brownswitch and its the best purchased Ive done
@@luminoso5787how come g815 over the g915?
There's no wired version of the TKL unfortunately.
There is the logitech g815. It's basically the same but wired. The only change is that it only comes in a full-size configuration (w/ a numpad)
Pretty good review. I agree with most of the cons the worst being the rattle and the price point. Though for shooters, I honestly feel this is personal opinion, I play shooters daily and when it came to the other keyboards I've used, (Corsair K65 Mini, Steel Series Apex Pro and Razer Huntsman TE). I have never felt this comfortable using a keyboard, it did take me a while to get used to it, but also I rarely ever use control for anything which probably benefits me than those who use control for crouching lets' say.
Overall, you have made valid points and I don't blame people for not caring for this keyboard, it's different and has issues that many people are not going to put up with especially at the price point. Like I said before, I've been using this keyboard for a couple of weeks now, I'll be more than happy to let you know how this thing carries on after a couple of months of use. I do a lot of typing tests so that should be a good factor as well.
Very interesting thanks!
Would like to know your updated thoughts!
@@gwynette896 me too
I went for the tactile G915 (not TKL) and I'm very happy, of all keyboards I have ever owned, this is one I've been the most satisfied with.
Does the tactile one have "wobbly" keys? If you put your finger on the key and don't press does the key move all around? That little bit of play is really messing with my typing, just got it yesterday so I don't know if its going to take some getting used to or I should just try again with something I'm happier with. I have the "linear keys one"..
@@cranbers I have the tactile and it has the "wobbly" keys. It doesn't bother me at all though, as I only notice it when I'm trying to make the keys wobble.
@@briannabyrd4283 After using the tactile keyboard for a week I love it. Just had to get used to it I guess, over 40 hours. I was used to the super flat non mechanical keybaords so going to one with mechanical switches again was pretty awkward, and I couldn't type well at all. All good now though.
yes. they feel cheap and "non-lubed", the rectangle shape of the switches makes the key pressing force uneven and I miss some letter because of this.. Coming from mx reds that are far better for typing and gaming.@@cranbers
Thanks man for the review honestly I was looking into buying this keyboard for a while case I am tired of my 60 percent keyboard and figured this would be my endgame keyboard. Jayztwocents really hyped this keyboard and I thought the wireless connectivity would be amazing and would look great on my desk but I will just stick to my custom ones for now I want to get back into making videos but I lose the motivation hopefully something will spark my creative genius in me one day.
Thanks a lot my friend I was just about to buy the keyboard and you helped me to avoid the same mistake
Excellent video. I tried typing on the version of this with blue switches, and it felt amazing, which was the main reason I was considering it. Your info about accidentally pressing Shift and Ctrl was really helpful and help me with my decision.
Your mistake was going for linear. Tactiles feel so much better. This feels like the best keyboard ive ever used. I'm also a programmer and I find it to be the perfect middle ground for gaming and work.
Totally agree
This was what i was looking for so thanks ❤
Hello! What is the real difference between Tactile and Clicky? Do you have any experience? I am thinking about G815 full size.
have you ever tried the clicky one? I am considering in maybe investing in the tactile or clicky one, but I'm afraid that the clicky one might be too noisy in the long run ?
As a programmer my self I plus one this, this really make me wanna type hooyaaaa bro im even can't stop typing on how really nice this keyboard oh btw i got the brown switch, the best one bro,... i might need to stop typing on how imporvement this keyboard is, now im going to code all night long BROOO WTF THIS KEYBOARD REALLY NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Just found your video. Thanks for the honest review. The CS issues are a deal killer.
I really appreciate your personal needs attached to your review. As a fellow programmer, I appreciated that.
Thank you
dang it sucks that you had such a bad experience :(
honestly when the full size version of this keyboard first came out I was all over it
I really agree with you about the rattle and the stability it's not the best for that at all which is disappointing for the price for sure
but at least for me it had everything I wanted in a keyboard and it seemed perfect for me in every way
I was lucky that my local canada computers let me open a box and try a quick typing test to see how it felt and oh was it perfect for me I love the way the keys feel and sound by far the best and most fun switches I have ever typed or gamed on
I did get the clicky version because that's what I love and the click is the perfect pitch and volume for satisfaction at least to my preference (my previous favourites were outemus razer greens are my least favourites and cherry blues are pretty meh)
I was so happy with it that when I decided that I wanted to get my hands on a tkl I bough another one (yes I am insane :P)
so now I have two and I don't regret it at all
honestly sometimes when I have to type out a longer email I will actually take out my headphones and just bask in the experience of using this keyboard sound and feel and it's still the best experience I have ever had
all that being said I'm disappointed that there wasn't more negative feed back out there to prevent you from having the experience you did that really sucks especially for a product as crazy expensive as this one
I'm a user of traditional IBM and Lenovo keyboards with wrist rests ISO key caps. Got a Qpad MK-50 I've been using for 10 years at home and wanted to replace it with something with lighting and after buying 2 different keyboards from cherry I've returned to my MK-50. Got any tips for good keyboards?
I've used this keyboard for over a year now, and it is by far my favorite keyboard to type on. I have the tactile keys and they feel perfect. Plus, that volume scroll knob is soooo nice and convenient to use.
Same, just picked one up (there's no reason why I should be paying this much for a keybaord) but I really like this one coming from a razer blackwidow.
I've had my tactile since 2020. Amazing keyboard for gaming and work from home. The only problem ive had is my keycaps fading, battery and functionality still going strong.
My only regret buying the reddragon knockoff of the g915 is that it doesnt have tactile switches It's the one thing I envy from my brothers g915. Other than that it's great
yeah... i have the tactile too.. and it served me well since 2020.
Do the tactile keys almost feel tough to press down?
I just got the Logitech g pro x tactile and my wrist/fingers are more stressed from pushing in the keys compared to my cheapo cyberpower keyboard.
Thanks for these excellent hints, im comparing now Razer BlackWidow PRO V3 and this one G915, based on your feedback i can say that i have the same feelings during my usage of this G915, i prefer Razer keyboard, moreover there is a wrist pad inside of the box in Razer and twice cheaper...)) thanks for your comments on this.
my previous favorite keyboard was the Corsair k70 Mk.2 brown switches, then i changed it to the Logitech g915 Tactile version white keyboard and honestly haven't looked back i love this keyboard it grew on me for some reason i got no complaints for it.. other people do tho but i dont want a big clunky keyboard anymore the tkl white version for me is really good i can see the keys better then the black version becos the black version you can barely see them.. honestly have no complaints on it i have no idea why sure i can say a bunch of stuff about it that ppl can agree on it but it would just be lies from me becos i cant go back now really love the white version of the g915 TKL tactile. been using it for over a year now no complaints. 😀
Bruh, the idea of not have arrow keys is crazy to me too! I'm also a dev, and tried a 10-key keyboard and I hated it! I've been running a Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard, and it's been great! Though I hate the fact that I can't easily press another key on the left side with my right hand if I'm drinking some water.
Just bought a G915 and it's feels alright, but I def need support for my wrist.
Also, you should look into lower the height of your desk it helps a ton when programming
Also, if you have a standing desk: there is an reset option that will allow you to lower it to perfectly suit the height of a Herman Miller Aeron. I think you unplug from power source for 15 seconds, plug it back it, and then press the down error. Once the table lowers really low, unplug it and it will stay in that position.
Thanks for feed back about the keyboard
love your quality!
Linear switches are most suited for gaming, for productivity activies having that tactile feedback is huge plus that subtle bump greatly reduces hitting keys accidentally
I’ve tried both and i have to say that i think clicky feels better than linear imo
@@acewings221 how was the sound of the clicky? I'm afraid that it will drive me nuts after a while
@@Thadnill I don't really even notice it tbh
I share some of your sentiments on this keyboard. I have the K915 full size. I thought it would be better than it is. The clicky just needs way to much for to press. It took me about two weeks to get used to pressing the key much harder. I was missing the keypresses and spacebar all the time. I use a K100 at home as my daily and i have to use so little force, I love it. But the clicky on the K915 requires some force.
Also like you said, after about a few days, the keyboard looked like it was used for years. Even with super clean fingers, this keyboard gets really dirty. Not a fan of the RGB lighting either. I am using starylght. Blue background with white to highlight random buttons. You can barely see the white. However, any other contrasting color works really well. With that being said, the battery life on the K915 is freakin amazing, at least for me. I keep it on all the time and use it for productivity. I think I have charged it only three times over 5 months. Yup, you read that right. Freakin amazing.
I appreciate this honest review, it's rare to find one these days.
I had a K70 Low Profile with CherryMX Speed LP, they were great, how I loved that keyboard (and still do). But I needed a wireless multi-device keyboard for work. I could not get back from using low profile keys because of how quiet and comfortable they are, so there were only two options: the G915 TKL and the Deathstalker V2 Pro TKL. I went one day to my local PC shop, where they had the tactile G915 on demo, and man wow I felt sick just touching that keyboard. The keys where so uncomfortable, it was unreal. The wobble was too much, it felt so weird to type on, I immediately discarded it.
I've had a Logitech keyboard before, the G513, and I know how oily and bad quality the components can feel. Since then, I decided not to buy their products, not until they got new iterations of them.
"I appreciate this honest review, it's rare to find one these days"
You can say that again. Almost all reviewers miss important aspects of everyday use, gloss over cons and blather on about how cool and awesome things are. Buncha f*cktards. (Not this reviewer though :-)
I am Software Engineer, too. I am less a gamer, but also sometimes I do some gaming.
I do not really follow your explanation. I do not like wristpads, the 915 is really the lowest I used. Also the wireless feature is amazing. It never missed a beat. Even if it did power down to save wireless life, it is available with the first keystroke. Really good.
I have the 915 TKL in white and I cannot confirm that it looks dirty when used, maybe this effect is stronger on the black versions. Also I am ok with the "wobblyness". Not sure if it is really much more wobbly compared to other boards. Even if I used this board with RGB (very low) and every day constantly, it was strong on battery life - I often do not charge for more than a week. Definitely, my previous keyboards were not that durable.
My big cons against this board: After more than 2 years with this board I have to say that the switches break (producing double or tripple key-strokes). I opened the board and replaced the faulty ones, now (4 months later), other keys are starting to fail -> very annoying!
Also I did not like the MicroUSB jack... I mean... MICRO USB. For a keyboard in that price range it is completely not understandable to provide MicroUSB. It should have been USB-C right from the start.
I am now checking on the Cherry MK8.2. It should have better switches and hopefully I can cope with the Keyboard height.
Once the Cherry is here, maybe also I will change all the switches on my 915... I really liked it a lot (while it was working, only the Micro USB was a real con, but as you charge that thing so rarely, you barely dont notice it).
I bought the G715 with liner switches and it's so good and it sounds great, so happy with it
Great review
Got the same keyboard a couple days ago, love it for gaming and typing I think it’s a great successor to the g910
Daaamn
I destroyed my G910 (spilled a drink on it oops) and got the G915 TKL today, I got it at BestBuy and I was a little apprehensive playing with the demo and I tried a bunch of other keyboards but darn it I kept coming back to the 915 - I just like the feel. For typing its been fantastic and comfortable but yes its overpriced
Great honest review - This saved me making a mistake - Because I share the same requirements
Y’all so obsessed over wired don’t know how good light speed is lol
Especially white one.
Hah no bc wireless is way too expensive for us casuals >:[
@@kkyden true but tbh save a few buck here and there. Skip on coffee skip on that donut / skip on that sub to someone on twitch / skip on extra toppings. Etc few bucks gets you that extra hundred to have a better keyboard. Stuff like the keyboard and mouse / speakers and lights will all last longer than the rest of your pc shall you ever upgrade cuz god knows you ain’t buying it once and done.
I think you should go all out on them.
Not TOTALLY extra but get a good one.
Me I bought all my stuff on Black Friday and deals and sales saved 400$ on my amazing monitor / 800$ on laptop to go/ 100$ off my mouse 150$ off keyboard all that saved me probably 1k I could put towards an amazing graphics card. Or extras.
Just waiting for sales and saving that few extra bucks gets you what you want along wayyy.
I have too many friends who buy with no sale / no discount / everything new or what everyone else has.
Me I have amazing gear and specs for about the same price.
I have this keyboard costs 50$ less than a customizable smaller non wireless / rbg keyboard a friend of mine has.
I love low profile tho they wanted that tiny mechanical one to change the keys.
Just cuz it’s wireless doesn’t mean it costs more. Just buying at a wrong time with what you want.
Too squishy. Not good for typing
Is light speed better than wired? (Except for enabling you to not have wires obviously)
There are many kinds of switches, we got MX cherries (which das uses), Gateron G pro, and nameless logitech ones which you bought.
All three are different even though they say brown they aren't brown, a Red MX Cherry won't be the same as a Gateron or a logitech one.
Thanks this was useful, I am also looking at tactile version, not sure if I want the TKL or not.
Good video. I switched to this keyboard from my razer deathstalker. Only thing that disturbs me is that not all symbols on the key caps glow red. It can be hard to see them when its dark.
...can't you change it in G hub?
I am planning to buy this and will play it in the dark pretty often so it kinda matter. Help me bro.
@@Snow-el7yp nope, some symbols are not transparent
@@sadsausage2224 which one is it and holy why the hell would they make it like that. haiz
@@Snow-el7yp these are some of the symbols that don't glow
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I absolutely agree with this review, I have
red linear switch the issue, i like it for
gaming some times but after a year of
use it is the keyboard red keys are
smooth but the key cap has weird
behaviour, it gets stuck travel wobbly
keys, when you program it's annoying
more mistakes and typos. I agree with
the review but many youtube channels
were raving when it was launched, lesson learned ask your crazy friend to lend you one use it then decide
And for my regular use rog falchion
blue keys which i did not expect i will
like had become my favourite work game keyboard, it takes less space on desk plenty of space, big keycaps you know what you are hitting its snappy, once you get used to it
programming on it it's fun too
I've had the full size with cllicky keys, for 2 years. I've now also picked up the tactile TKL version. This is hands down my favorite keyboard I've ever owned.
All my life I gamed on cheap membrane keyboards. I bought a mech keyboard, and hated the key height, and depth of actuation. I had a very hard time gaming on regular cherry switches. That's what caused me to seek this keyboard.
I imagine your issues with gaming on this keyboard, is the mirror to my gaming issues with cherry switches. Habit and comfort.
Not sure if it was released between this video post and now, but Logitech does now have a wired, cheaper verision of this keyboard, called the G815.
There isn't a TKL version of that G815 so were are still stuck with the expensive G915.
TKL keyboards take some time to adjust to them. I went from a fullsize Razer to a Logitech Pro X TKL and that transition was a bit rough at first. I'd say it took me almost a week to get used to it.. And now I have switched back to a full size keyboard with the Logitech g915 wireless full size and it's taking me some getting used to going back to a full size keyboard. I 100% prefer the full size keyboard though. The g915 that I literally plugged in less than an hour ago has the GL Clicky switches and so far I am really enjoying typing on this keyboard.
As they say though to each their own! Hope you find a keyboard you like! So far I am loving the g915!
Good review!
Glad you enjoyed it
I have the Clicky version, and recently I bought the tactile version (April 2022). The tactile version feels cheaper than the clicky. They've updated the keycaps, it's more matte-grayish now than matte-black. And for the packaging, they removed their "Keep playing" black card. Now it's just the papers and a sticker. First I thought mine was fake, and then fortunately I found your video.
bro, I also thought it was fake as well. By the way, did you get a plastic cable or a braided cord?
@@ngocgiabaonguyen6139 I think they've stopped producing braided cord. I received Plastic cable for both of my g915.
late, but i’m pretty sure the keycaps are still the same… only the cable and boxes are different on the newer releases.
Excellent review... Really appreciate it. Saved me some money!
Save up money
You have to buy the tactile version of the keyboard, this one is better. The Tactile also triggers very quickly, faster than other manufacturers' Tactiles, but still has enough feedback. Therefore, your first impression is very clear to see that the linears are absolutely not your thing.
I had also previously ordered the linear version. But thank goodness I got the "wrong" version with the brown switches... and now I love them. Never give her back ^^ MFG Carsten
Agreed, tactile would have been a better choice
@@JSyntax yes and now @Amazon for 145€ ;) nice Price!
I completely agree with you on the price, wiggly waggly shaky keycaps, and how the quality needs to be much higher for a keyboard of this price. I bought mine almost a year ago on the used market. I have the tactile blue switches. Good honest review!
the CLICKY feels soooo good
My reasons for getting this is because it had Bluetooth. I couldn't find many other options that had everything that I wanted combined at the time.
Not being able to find other caps sucks though and they are abs and they could have at least done better on that. I also don't particularly like that the second functions aren't clear so they are lit. I have never been able to touch type so the lighting was something I was looking for since I have to look at it
Ordered the tactile version for myself during a black friday sale. Saw some pretty good reviews basically praising this keyboard, but you're the first one that mentioned it to not really be suitable for FPS (My main game is csgo too). I really liked the aesthetic and wireless connectivity. Other reviews also mentioned the rattle, unstable keycaps and bottoming out feeling, but I was willing to give it a shot. I have never really gamed on a low profile kb, so I really hope I have a more positive experience with it once it comes in the mail.
on the logitech website they say that tactile switches are better for fps games and linears for mmo, i guess that's bullshit then
@@Itsu53 I guess we’ll find out in 2 days
@@Mau_S I'm gonna buy the keyboard as well, i watched a couple of others reviews and it seems that the tactile switches would be the best option for this keyboard because even if they're tactile they're super fast even for gaming (lower actuation point) than standard tactile or linear switches switches ; and apparently the characteristic bump of tactile switches is smother and faster because of the low profile so it shouldn't be a bother while gaming.
@@Mau_S So.... what's your verdict on the keyboard?
i want to know your opinion, i ordered one like 3 months ago but they keep postponing the date it will be available but it says 30th of november now so i might just cancel the order if it isn't suitable for csgo (which is like the only game i play)
I have bought two of this keyboard, one clicky for home use and one tactile for office use, and both of them felt basically the same, except for the activation sound. But after about half a year of use I had to return them. There were so many times when the shift, ctrl and alt keys on both keyboards just wouldn't activate while I was typing so I had to correct myself many times. This got really annoying while coding and while gaming. Thankfully the store I bought them from allowed for a return after half a year of use.
I also experience the rattling of the keys and another thing that really annoyed me was that if the RGB lights weren't on the key lettering was almost impossible to see.
Speaking as a programmer and a gamer I wouldn't recommend this keyboard. I have gone back to my trusty Razer Blackwidow Elite with green switches for home use and a cheap Deltaco TKL with brown MX cherry switches at work. Both work much better even though they are not low profile.
thanks great review stopped me from pulling the trigger on this
haha excellent
I ordered this yesterday. Should arrive tomorrow.
Are you going to like it as much as I did
How is it?
*Thanks, you made the whole keyboard landscape much more clear for me.*
*I can tell, i would hate the red switches.*
As far as for the 'gaming' aspect, it looks like it is for the type of person who wants to hover above the keyboard and rely on memorized muscle memory to hit the right location - vs slightly resting on and feeling the keys.
It's a bit like brags about being touch screen. You can't rest your hand on it. You have to have all the locations memorized _in free space,_ because it's lacking tactile feedback and locational control.
I see this in the industrial side: touch screens look pretty, but every operator who such a machine _always_ wishes for actual buttons for the every day functions.
We even have touch control hands safe switches. (they don't let the machine move until both hands are on the safety switches, so you can't crush yourself). They are a neat idea: they don't take any force vs pressing a button, and they have no moving parts...
And they are way more finicky. In order to prevent false positives, they are linked together and need to be pressed quickly at near the same time - or they don't work. You can't rest on hand ready, then move another hand there. You aren't gripped on to anything to carry the weight of your arms. You have to keep both hands back, and quickly put them both in and clap and hold your arms up for them to work.
We have other machines with simple mechanical buttons. Objectively, they are just nicer all around, even if you will eventually have to replace a switch. They work when grime, coolant, chips, etc cover them.
(there is one place I prefer non-mechanical switches: on sealed/mostly sealed machines, inductive switches make nicer home switches that are more accurate and don't generally wear out.)
I think this was the first review where the G915 rattling loose noise was mentioned...
I saw this review, bought G915 and my experience was the same. I did find it to be performing well, but as far as latency, I could not see Keychron k7 vs g915 difference - RTINGS had latency on g915 at 1ms (BS) ... and Keychron K7 was at 14ms when wired... on test website for keyboard latency both performed equally the same.
My version I had was tactile, so I find Brown switches are the BEST for little bit of both: gaming and office use and typing... I ended up returning it, and got instead Keychron k1 ver 4 brown switches... I feel up to 80-90$ price tag for low profile keychrone delivered a LOT...
I got my clicky full size version just now and so far I am impressed. I was expecting the clicky bit to be far louder than it was in reality and the typing experiences was really comfortable. More comfortable than my previous G512 SE, which had the same "wobbly keys" that this one does. I suspect that's just a Logitech-thing. Having only used Logitech keyboards personally in the past, I'm very content with this. I suspect your bad experience may have been, as you mentioned yourself, be attributed to you getting the linear switches, instead of the tactile ones.
I think it looks like a decent Keyboard. I like the wireless options and RGB lighting helps to see. I work in the dark So it'll help.
I don't get it? Are you completely oblivious to the market? There is a numpad version of the same keyboard and also the G815 is the same keyboard but a wired version.
1:30 Isn’t the G815 the same thing just wired?
The tactile is honestly the best for all purpose use. The linear is only good if you're only gaming and need quick actuation. Typing on the linear reds, I easily lose wpm and make a lot of errors due to the short travel distance and lack of feedback. The clicky version is honestly my favorite for typing (more so than any other keyboard I own) but its complete doodoo for gaming.
I agree with you!
Dude linear keys are not good for gaming.. all top level FPS players use tactile reds
@@alexanderthegreatwasstraight But red switches are linear? They just have a shorter actuation distance when compared to blacks (if we're talking about cherry and cherry-like switches). Tactile switches are usually brown (quiet tactile) or blues (clicky tactile) or green (razer clicky tactile).
@@woohoot whatever the tactile switches are is what most top FPS players are using
Nah I used clicky for gaming for like 2 years it did me well
I was considering the G915 (non tkl), but your review and others showed me that I'm better off with my G613. Yes, is Romer G but if this $70 G613 double strokes as a +$200 G915 I much rather use this one.
I'm one of those that absolutely love this keyboard for gaming and programming.
compeletely agree with you dude, i had the same experience. cant believe i wasted that much money, and i also did tried to live with it for a while see if i need to "learn" for it. Turned out, nope, it was just not that great for certain people. Cant return the damn thing as well hahahha
saw this video, and then went on to buy it for myself to test it out i got the tactile version btw. compared to my custom keyboard(Lubed alpaca linears, 65% Drop alt high profile highly modified), this is an insanely nice keyboard and i have 0 complaints about it, extremely nice and crispy typing experience. great for productivity, editing and gaming. all around great keyboard and you wont have to upgrade for a couple of years just from the solid build quality. it isint loud at all, has a subtle, satisfying tac sound. great prebuilt keyboard if you can afford it.
as for the wobble i do not feel it at all with the tactile version. and the keyboard does not feel cheap at all in any way, i do think that's because of the linear switches but i have not tried them so i cant confirm this.
confirm with the switches. the reds are very mushy. the brown feels more comfy to me.
Tactile is incredible. I like tactile among all mechanical keyboards. Clicky is great too, but it's a bit loud. Linear I think is pretty bad. It feels like any normal membrane (cheap) keyboard. Why spend all the money on a mechanical keyboard just to get a membrane like feel?
Just ordered this. I'm using the logi pro X just now that i really enjoy. Hope the clicky version is good.
How's the firmware on it? Is it remembering the setting it was left on? Their software and driver package is 1.5GB!!! My cheap g413 se seem more solid that youra, and this one is duuuumb. Does not remember mode or backlight levels.
Ouch, you got TKL! I want the complete one.
What do other ones do you suggest?
I have a question about the height and keyboard feet. Did you notice there are 3 heights you can have it setup? Feet completely off, "small feet" you are using in this video and then the longer ones that increase they height more. I personally use the longer ones and the keyboard is comfortable to type and game on.
I have been using the clicky version of this keyboard for about a year and I agree that for $220, it is incredibly overpriced. The keycaps have a lot to be desired and feel pretty cheap, smudges and oils are a big issue. Honestly as a whole, the keyboard build quality does not feel like a $200+ keyboard. Sadly, there aren't many competitors for low-profile keyboards, so Logitech is able to get away with that ridiculous price tag. I usually don't like clicky switches since they are very loud, but for some reason I fell in love with the sound of these switches. Overall I really like the keyboard, I can get over the cheaper feel of it but it is no where near worth the $220. The worst part, it's the best wireless technology you can get for a wireless low-profile keyboard. I have tried Havit's low profile keyboards but somehow I don't like the feel of it as much as this one but it's still a great alternative if you don't want to live on one kidney.
Agreed with you. Good job getting tactile because linear don't feel great
Here where I live it's like $140 lol
@@TexMackerson you're pretty lucky, $140 is a lot better but I'd still price it around $100, this keyboard is severely over priced
I only just opened & started using mine. So far, the only thing that seems a bit cheap are the 2 fold out prop-stands which I've never used on any keyboard but still, for the price nothing on it should seem fraile. I might change my mind as it _is_ new for me. I got the G502 wireless mouse with it & I'm really happy with the mouse.
I just bought one in white on sale for about 110usd. I realy like it but doest beat my Pok3r keyboard. Also I really love PBT caps. I think for the price this keyboards should include PBT keys. I'm also have two DasKeyboards (Professional and Ultimate) and I love them.
Thanks for the honest review. ❤️ Can you give a review of the Logitech MX Keys and compare it with MX Mechanical to decide which one is better for programming?
I have the MX keys, and I must say it's the best keyboard for tying I think I have ever used. Quite pricey for what it is, but that's Logitech for you! I would have preferred a Windows only version without the dual Mac / Windows keys, but I can live with it. I mostly touch type but do occasionally glance down, and it can be confusing not seeing the traditional 'windows' key. I wouldn't consider it for gaming really, I have a compact mechanical wired keyboard for that. I was hoping to have the ultimate goal of having one keyboard to rule them all, but I think you just end up with too many compromises if you try that.
Yeah, I just bought this keyboard with brown switches, and returning after only a week. It is super mushy, plus the caps move around a lot, they are so loose. Everything else about the keyboard is great but unfortunately they did a bad job on the switches and the caps which is probably the two most important aspect of a keyboard lol. I'll try the mx mechanical, and see how it goes. This time I think I'll go with Linear option rather than tactile quite.
This keyboard is a hoot! I love its Kaihl BOX Red switches, they are so fast and accurate. The Dream machines DreamKey TKL Red makes me feel like a true cyber athlete!
Did I buy the wrong one if I bought the tactile ones for gaming? they didnt have linear or clicky...
There's a conflict between 1:11 vs 11:39. But at least we can feel that your review is honest and that's what matters the most. Thank you for saving hundreds of $ to many people.
Thank you for your kind words
@@JSyntax tactile is best. You can archive fastest typing speeds on tactile, not only linear. Tactile is just libear with psuedofeedback. Without feedback uou cann archieve fast typing speeds.
i really like the look of these smaller keys but yeah. i composite in nuke and i use the numpad for small adjustments to roto/gridwarp/splinewarps all the time.
I have the same comment you had on the keys, they're actually wabbly. I got the tactile one.
There is a cheaper wired Version of it called the G815 here in Germany it Costs around 130€ so it is a good amount cheaper. (G915 is around 180€ here)
Why are the keys so wobbly on this?
u got the Red Clicky?
What is the best keyboard for fps Warzone for you ?
It's too bad you weren't a much of a fan. It's hard for me to say if it's really worth the price tag, but I ended up getting one, and I really love mine. I was specifically looking for a low profile keyboard, and this was the best one I could find by far. One thing I would say that helps justify the price for me is the fact that they tend to function exactly as they're built to. Meaning all the other keyboards I was looking at had problems such as the keys either being too sensitive, so they'd double click when trying to type, or they'd be not sensitive enough, and not keep up with what you're doing. This is the only one I could find that people were claiming works exactly how it's supposed to.
With regard to the wiggly keys, I see what you're saying, but I never thought it felt cheap, or even considered it a flaw necessarily. While everything said was generally true, I just want people to know I'm still very happy with mine, while still acknowledging these things. Though I still can't confidently say it's worth as much as it is. I personally paid $170 for my TKL Tactical switch version, and I'm very happy, but I still feel like it should have been $100-$120. So it's really up to you. It's not like it's absolutely amazing. I don't think it's for everyone. But if you're like me, and it's exactly what you were looking for, I think you'll definitely be happy.
I'm happy you like it!
I went to the shop with the g915 and pain a little bit more for the pro x tkl lightspeed. And WOW ! That's something else. I never owned a keyboard like pro x, that's something different 😁
If they doubled the price and I had to buy it again, it'd do it in a heartbeat. And that's saying a lot considering that I hate Logitech since they rolled out the new GHub software and started making mice that break every few months.
I have this exact keyboard for 1.5 years, seen pretty heavy use both professionally and gaming (10+ hrs daily). Initially I was fairly disappointed because of the rattle and how frail the keys seem. All that vanished quite quickly for me, this is by far the best keyboard I have typed on.
The only major cons that I see are the Logitech software (buggy, clunky, bad UX) and not being able to change the assignments on all keys, which is something I'd like to have the option to do (but would probably never use). As for the other cons I've seen mentioned:
- I absolutely love the "rattling" of the keys, it makes the keys anchor to my fingertips instead of being rigid - seems to directly improve my speed for some reason.
- No problem whatsoever with confidently hitting shift/ctrl/etc in games, but I have a lot of practice with laptop keyboards so that might play a part. I can't stand high profile keyboards though and have problems with shift/ctrl there, and I have big hands as well so that's not a consideration.
- Volume key feels very analog, I'm using it a lot and much prefer it over the other options I've tried. (some people list it as a con)
- Due to the airy design, it stays quite clean dust-wise without needing to remove the key caps - I never did and it looks cleaner than my desk that I wiped last evening. I do clean the keycaps every few days, and indeed the black version easily gets the dirty keycaps "effect" when you have a strong source of light behind to reflect it, but it doesn't apply in my case (as you can also see in the video, where it had to be angled just right for the dirty keycaps to be visible).
@Matthew get a new replacement for free beside the shipping cost or buy new keycaps that can be found on aliexpress or shopee if you're living in sea region
I own this as my day to day and prefer it over the extra high keyboards they make my wrists tired from typing all day. This keyboard is quiet and could use improvement still better than the loud keyboards
I got the same keyboard except its not tkl and lightspeed. I'm loving it in my 3 months of usage. It sounds fantastic and sleek. I do have an issue with how wobbly the keys are and how the sub legends on the number row are not illuminated. ghub software is meh and always find it weird that they don't have lots of specific illumination for certain games.
I agree not having the entire thing illuminated, including symbols is the oddest thing ever. It's so hard to see those light grey symbols without any backlit illumination. Other than that, the keyboard seems great so far.
I had the same experience with the brown variant, heck I think the brown variant is even worse because you get the mushiness in addition to the wobble.
Damn sorry to hear
@@JSyntax It's allright, I had the chance to try one at a friend's house, so I didn't buy one. I would massively recommend to you the Keychron low profile hot swap gateron brown boards though, best typing experience I ever had on a low profile, especially with a lighter spring and lube mod, the gateron low profile brown switch is amazing.
Newegg has this for 189 and 169 for the tactile. Just pulled the trigger on the linear.
Let me know if you like it
And how is it?
i have this keyboard in white with the tactile switches and i've had no problems with gaming or productivity usage. one of the best mechanical keyboards i've bought in a long time.
Jelly
would love to try it..to me the g613 sucks for the game i play, the linear switches on this one should fit for my games.
Unfortunately logitech doesn't make a g915 I would actually like to pay 200-250 euros for.
The regular 915 has that extra row of keys like the 613 which I never use, I need the numpad to game comfortably (widespread setup) and thn the tkl version is better but misses the numpad. but at least has a place to store the dongle. factor in the cheapo/proprietary keyparts alongside the micro usb cable and it should turn into a meme.. The cheap wired membrane keyboards are still the way to go for me. Logitech used to be my favourite (and I have bought 10+ keyboards from them, nobody else) but now...they are really turning into a joke for me with the shit they produce these days. Even the mx master was a letdown
agreede
Spot on man ! It's the exact same feelings I got, I rate use my 5$ membrane keyboard that this one 😅
I'm trying to find a keyboard which is: full size, uses brown switches and is low profile. I found one years ago and it's hands down the best keyboard in this multiverse. I cannot use anything else since that but they stopped making that keyboard so I'm desperately trying to find similar one but seems nobody is making those. Any ideas?
Ty man)))
Thanks for the great review man! I've been looking for a new keyboard and this was recommended by some friends of mine. After your review I just said "fuck it" and bought it, but I ended up with tactiles instead of linear, and it feels great. Great review, keep up the good work !
Worst things:
1. Key caps along edge or board have habit of popping off - lift with two hands.
2. With backlighting odd, keys are impossible to read, it should be a frosted white transparent lettering so it works well without backlight.
3. Secondary function of keys ( Eg: 7 / %) are not backlit
Agreed!
4:42 youd probably like asplit/ergo kind of thing with thumb keys that work as modifiers for extra layers
I got this and the Corsair K100 Air, and it's a toss-up. On the G915, I set the G4 and G5 keys to copy and paste for editing spreadsheets, and it works great. The one-handed stretch for Ctrl + V gets old after about 2 hours.😂
Nice video my man. So i ended up going with the Tactile version and its pretty good but its kinda loud. I was thinking about switching it to the Linear version like u but idk now since you u said u werent a fan of it. Think i should keep this one or try Linear?
If def. Keep tactile imo. Linear didn't vibe well and I love red linear on normal mechanical keyboards
@@JSyntax fasho then i will go ahead and keep this one!! thanks for the reply man man
Shifitng 'shift' with a 'capslock' helps a lot
Hey, just thought I would add my 2 pence seeing as we're putting our own opinions on this keyboard, haha. Personally, I love mine and granted reviews can very much be the deciding factor when purchasing something, keyboard or not but contradictory to that, it can also be a great sign about what people's experiences are from the keyboard itself, so they do speak volumes in that sense. I personally don't feel the keyboard is cheap, especially the finish on the keyboard itself (excluding the keycaps). I do agree though if you're really unsure whether to buy one or not (even if it is a 2 year old keyboard) try going to Curry's or alike to see if they have one in stock for you to check out. The freedom factor this wireless keyboard gives, is a massive pro in itself. Personally not a fan of having things plugged into my mouse/keyboard plus it gives a cleaner look to your desk if you have slight OCD like me, lol!
Have had the keyboard for a few months now... At the start i was amazed on how small it is and the design goes well with my setup... But the keycaps feel dirt cheap the rattle is annoying aswell... also since im coming from big bulky keyboards the lowprofile just made it not so comfortable even after a few months my wrists are in the air and aking after a few games. I payed around 160 euros for this keyboard and will be returning it ..The keyboard is pretty good and all but it feels like the hype just brought me to it. Also even a slight wrong movement to the keycap and it will fly off (talking to you Mr arrow keys) and if your unlucky you will break the pins,they are super fragile .
Overall i would rate this Keyboard a 7/10 main issues keycaps/rattle and playing any shooter thats faster than cs:go will be a little harder than with a normal keyboard not very comfortable to do quick actions like sprint/crouch/slide
Agreed one hundred percent
curious what microphone ure using there?
I tried out two the Apex 3, Apex 7, Corsair K65, Razer Ornata, and a few other keyboards... returned them all didn't like them. Cherry switches didn't seem to me to be anything special.
I'm so glad I bought this G815 (same keyboard, just wired) Best typing experience I've had in my life probably. Love the keys. I got tactile and the clicky.. trying to figure out which one I like best.
But Idk, the low profile short stroke of the keys is great. Love the typing experience, as I type to you now!!!
Hey, with which one did you go finally? I'm considering the clicky one aswell, as the tactiles accentuation and all feels a bit "mushy" to me. Can't decide... 😩
@@dannyventuradj so I wound up going with the tactile version. In part because I work from home and didn't want my GF being annoyed by it lol. But I also think I went with it because its a style im used to. I'm not used to clicky keyboards.
But honestly I think you can't go wrong either way. But it was a tough choice for me in a way. I did sort of enjoy the clicky keyboard. Was just worried that in time I was going to regret it, and the only reason I was worried of course is that im just not used to keyboards like that.
@@rabidlenny7221 appreciate your answer! I'm used to a clicky keyboard, got the razer ornata chroma before and it was the loudest clicky board I ever heard lol. Have you tried out the linear version aswell?
@@dannyventuradj I've tried other versions of linear keyboards, I really dont like them. its almost hard to detect if you successfully depressed & activated the keystroke (if that makes sense, that whole process takes less that maybe 0.25 seconds in your head, literally when im typing this to you).
My old GF tried one of them and a tactile and clicky, and she was like yeah linear, not uh. Apparently its for gaming, faster keystrokes or something. But it doesnt feel great and it didnt feel great to her either.
Small side note, she broke up with me, but I met this new girl who I like more in most in not a lot of ways and spends more time with me. So that's kinda cool :)
@@rabidlenny7221 i love your first description of the feel of linear keyboards, i physically can feel it. I don't even have to try the linear out then lol. I think I'll be happy with the clicky ones when they arrive. And I'm super happy that you have a lovelier, more appreciative and caring girly beside you. :)
I put tape under each cap. No more wobble or sound of the caps. Prefer the tactile for gaming.
I've had the 915 (not TKL) Tactile for about a year. I do relly like it except ...
* Has a tendency to miss the Shift. It may be me, but I never had this problem with other keyboards.
* The dongle doesn't work via my KVM switch. What is worse ... I would be OK if it never worked. But it does work for a little while and then it stops. So need to plug the dongle back and forth between two machines.
* The keys are of course lit with programmable colours. But ... only the primary character is lit (e.g., 1, 2, 3 ...) the shifted chatacter is not (!, @, #, ...). What's worse, the shifted character is light gray on a black key top ... competely unreadable when it is dark. As well, the shifted character is on the bottom of the key cap contrary to at least a century of tradition.
* It seems to me that the point of having the programmable individual key colours is that they be useful in games. However, in my experience when playing almost any game the programming is lost and they kyes go back to rippling colours.
* The G-Hub software is absolutely counter-intuitve. I am convinced that Logitech employed some top-notch user inteface designers: had they just used begining programmers, it would have been impossible to get the user interface so wrong and unusable. Another fun feature: G-Hub allows one to disable updates. And then it goes on to ignore that. Result: on my work computer on which security software blocks the installer program, G-Hub doesn't start, it goes into an infinite loop claiming that it is installing updates. Response from Logitech support (paraphrased to show meaning): we don't give a damn, too bad.
I bought the G815 (tactile), and I love it. I think about the price this way:
I remember buying keyboards in the 1980s for $100 - $200. If you adjust for inflation, we were paying way more for keyboards back then. I think those membrane keyboards spoiled us a bit. I don't have a problem with paying $200 in the 2020s if the keyboard is good enough, and I think the G815 and G915 are worth it.
I don't game very much anymore. I bought this for typing, and it's amazing for that.
I sent my TKL back because its not connecting with the USB dongle. I Heard the TKL Version has a Problem with some of the last firmware Updates.
I hope the G915 with TK works better.
Linear feels like membrane, very mushy, you cant 'feel' nor know when you pressed it.
Clicky is pretty good, hard to press and you know when you pressed it. BUT if you have a home with many family members, do NOT go for this, its pretty loud.
Tactile is a god send. You feel it, no one can hear it. I own two of these for my two homes.
i recommend getting the tactile though I much prefer linear for gaming
the tactiles have a very nice feeling to it for typing, but the linears are much better for gaming in my experience
however, I do recommend getting the full version, but it is a very expensive keyboard, so only get that if a newer one comes out or during a sale because it is simply not worth the price
there are cheaper keyboards while do not look anywhere near like the logitech g815 and g915
the price is simply far too high for what you could be getting from another company
for the same price you can get keyboards with analog switches which allows you to change the activation point, but at the same time you lose in some other areas
other keyboard manufacturers have better customizability over the g815 and g915 and allows you to hotswap them to your heart's content to match the sound or feel that you want
overall good keyboard, but get it at a discounted price