I Tried The New Logitech Keyboard... (So You Don't Have To.)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- The Logitech Pro X 60 just might be the Best WORST gaming keyboard of 2024. I'm not sure how Logitech managed to make this bad of a mechanical keyboard...
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(Also somehow the soundtest got cut from this video by my editor and I didn't realize it? but trust me on this one you didn't want to hear it.)
Feeling kind'a sorry for Logi as I do appreciate them for some of their product offerings, but after watching this video and not being able to come up in my head with one single argument to contest any of the reasoning being exposed here, it is even more painful. You're undoubtedly right in sharing your frustration and disappointment, especially after having spent $180 US plus tax for this. And then the claims; and then the press release; and then the PRO part; and then the inability to mod it; and then... oh boy. Please tell me you did not pay for this out of your own pocket. Informative video and entertaining as always. Luv 🥰
@@tikitopia hahaha with paying an editor this is one of the more expensive vids I've ever made!
pls try the alula f75
Hey Hipyo, sadly I see on Boardwalk there is no UK shipping option or even any sellers that ship to the ROW region, sad times 😞
@@stevenajack yeah 😭 gotta get EU and UK approval on things so it will be a few months
Designed with prose? Sorry I like my keyboards designed with poetry.
Must be a collaboration with microprose before they closed down 🤣
@@ironjavelin7482 Nah, since it's a kb, it'd have to be MacroProse.
I like my keyboard to sound like Poetry. ASMR Poetry!
@@concinnus Ahh! spellchecker prose!😉
Nobody’s laughing
anything "gaming" increases the price automatically 75%. adding "pro" increases it another 50%. wireless is +100%.
this keyboard should only really be like $50.
I saw somebody selling computer keyboard IBM from 2001 asking price $200 WTF?. Because he put the additional word "Mechanical Systems" TF ??
@@abdulwhatever2912 wtf? it's probably "vintage" as well haha
@@abdulwhatever2912 Sounds like how Ebay people sell Netburst-based Dell Dimensions from 2003 as "RETRO DOS GAMING PC."
@@The_Boctor ,🤣🤣 sugarcoating every fkn thing for more bucks.
I won't pay for more than $25 to be honest. Royal Kludge has even better options with more than half the price
17:19 "what the *board* meetings were like" such a good pun right there
Years of training led up to this moment
@@HipyoTech”LED”
That was the key...
@@HipyoTech i want to watch the video of it but i cant find it. does anyone found it
They saw a Newman keyboard and went, "I bet we can take that $25 China keyboard with a metal baseplate, make it completely out of plastic, and charge nearly 700% more for it."
"Big companies make the worst crap" -DankPods
Amen
They somehow make both the best and worst crap. Because their mice are on the top and ngl, some of them deserve it, but this keyboard and some of others? The WORST OF THE WORST for the price
unexpected Wade reference, nice
I read this in his voice LMAOOOO
im still glad i went for corsair way better...4 that price + 20 dollar discount.
Man congrats to Hipyo for somehow managing to extend this colossal nothingburger into a 20 minute video.
There are more blissful ignorant people out there than there are keyboard enthusiast. They see the Logitech badge, they see the word 'gaming', they'll gobble it up.
yeah, I was one of them few years ago, and now i have g810 that is a 200 usd paperweight cos 3 switches need replacing and they are soldered and can't even buy them from logitech (proprietary switches). Never again.
Sad but true.
Honestly, until recently, that would have been me :D
but you know, in the end for absolutely normal population, casual gamers whatever, this is more than enough as keyboard :d and every other features that have diff keyboards better, its minor, and im not talking about this specific keyboard, but about your logitech badge comment, cuz mouses they are doing absolutely superb, probably best in the market, and some keyboards are also "okay"
they also see the word "pro" and they're sold.
What was the 2nd keyboard that you showed Josie? It looks like a Monsgeek with 2 columns of navigation keys.
The Kendrick reference caught me off guard
That was my favorite part of the video lmao. Unexpected but appreciated.
same lmaoooo
Frfr
lmfao I came here just for that. I'm dyingg
He the culture. Average Dot fan.
So the really cool thing about Logitech software, is that the new control panel doesn't support older devices, which means you need to have the old Logitech control panel installed for those devices.
Sounds like a minor inconvenience?
Well, you can't have both installed at the same time. You get to choose either the newer devices, *or* the old ones. So if you have an old racing wheel and a new mouse, you're SOL.
logitech just can’t make keyboards that don’t suck
2034 gonna have the sickest keyboard from logitech
@@HipyoTechLogi just simply a Pro of making a keyboard suck, just admit it.
@@HipyoTechwhat if the pros they got were all controller players
I have a usb wireless Logitech keyboard that has a TouchPad and it works awesome for connecting to my TV. It is in no way customizable but suits the purpose
their membrane keyboards like the mx keys are good.
What keyboard did you bring in at 15:30? Love the sound of that one :)
Im interested in that one as well
i need to know as well
Yunzii/Womier Sk71 check out his vid on it!
For a company that makes my favorite mice it’s amazing that they can’t make at least a decent keyboard
thats why complete brand loyalty is dumb. some people feel the need to get every peripheral from one company, and they end up with probably half their stuff being overpriced junk and some stuff just overpriced for no reason but it has gaming or pro in its name.
Honestly they have no competition when it comes to mice. Some other company might be able to make better mice but none seem interested in trying. You have Logitech, the default mice that come with their respective brands and tons of nameless Chinese products. That's it
@@strayiggytv Tbh the "nameless chinese products" pretty much caught up with the big boys now when it comes to the mice. And they evolve much much faster than the dinosaurs like Logitech and Razer. Logitech released GPX2 with a big fanfare recently, and it's basically just a GPX1 copy with USB-C and 2000MHz polling rate. And they spent years making it. Brands like Lamzu, Pulsar, Vaxee and others are releasing tons of great mice frequently, around half the price, full of latest tech, 8000MHz sensors, optical switches and encoders, super light weight, hot swappable switches etc. Logitech is living off their past fame, but they aren't the inovators in the mouse market anymore either.
I've had nothing but bad experiences with logitexh mice. My g305 and g903 both had double click. Somehow a used g502 i got off ebay still works but that's it
their membrane keyboards for office work are good. mx keys. also their keyboard cases for ipads have very good typing feel. have not tried their gaming keyboards though.
12:37 bro atleast had his back straight💀
Oh, damn … in Germany, it is even more like $215 (currency converted) … ahhhh … rip. That really hurts to see.
US price doesn't include tax, that's one of big reasons for price difference (unless you took off tax, then good on you and RIP germany pricing lol)
@@IdunRedstone no, pretty much no one here does prices excl tax
Imagine making a premium gaming keyboard and not even putting arrow keys on it
I just dont know what they were thinking, marketing remapping keys as a feature is crazy
its the key feature of that board
Perhaps Logitech's main mistake here was attempting to make a _keyboard._ Like, the kind people use for gaming and/or serious typing. What they excel at is making glorified television remotes, not daily workhorse keyboards.
gaming keyboards dont exist they just market normal keyboards with rgb and low form factor like the custom keyboard industry hasnt been doing this for years and tcustom accel at being a keyboard more than anything big companies will advertise
@@slapp3r439 this take held true before modern analog keyboards like the wooting became a thing
Logitech fall off is crazy, at this price wooting clears
This is not a keyboard for enthusiasts, Logitech don't care about them, this is not their target. They aim for average "gamers" with extra bucks to spend, people that don't even know you can customize a keyboard
Best Hipyo video of 2024 so far, this keyboard screams $40 amazon special.
That might be a bit generous considering the prebuilt Epomaker TH80 Pro is on sale for $45 rn. I'm very new to the hobby, but as someone who has been scouring Amazon very recently looking for the right budget board to start my custom journey with, it feels like we are actually starting to get solid budget offerings, especially when you factor in sales. This keyboard honestly gave the vibes of those unnamed, near-permanently marked down boards you see listed for $20-$30
Probably the Bugha 5 below keyboard is better than this Logitech keyboard. Even the Redragon K552 is way better; I am not sure what Logitech is doing...
What Logitech is for keyboard enthusiasts is what Bose is to audiophiles.
i bought 2 Bose products in my lifetime, both convinced me to NEVER buy anything from that brand ever again
I would trust Logitech to make the remote control for a Bose stereo... but I wouldn't want to _type_ on it.
Beats.
@@kornar its crazy how apple puts their name on that garbage like it still amazes me why people still buy that garbage
@@slapp3r439Beats and apple are actually fine for audio now. The best bang for buck? definitely not. But recent airpods are considered pretty good by many reputable reviewers.
The only reason they made it hotswappable is because their keyboards develop double clicks often so this lets you replace a switch but they still want the money to go to them :L
My G915 has held up really well over the last 4 years, the older Romer Gs were the ones that were known for double clicking
They used xqc as a model of reference for the pros
xQc was an eSports pro
@@blinkx1070 Man is a pro at eating his own toenails
he was an overwatch 2 pro though
@@gentleman2292 overwatch 2 😂
@@huutonauris i mean yeah its a bad game but he was pro at it
Loving the Focal Bathys cans. Got them too, they’re awesome
Best wireless headphones hands down!
Dude Logitech built up a great reputation for their mouse, they made the Superlight and every pro was using it, and instead of saying “alright team let’s stay competitive, let’s stay innovative, let’s reach out to esports pros and ask what they like about our products, what they don’t” instead they said “Big payday time boys, let’s release the cheapest pieces of garbage from 5 years ago and charge 2024 premium prices cause since pros use our nice everyone thinks we’re good and we can cash out on our reputation” I got bad news Logitech, everyone sees through your bullshit. Tragic that this company probably could have gone so far but has clearly given up to cash out on their reputation. Screw them
Thing is, most people don't know what a good keyboard is. They see 'mechanical' in the name and automatically assume it's just good. At most people understand the actuation distance and force and just rely on that spec sheet. In reality, a keyboard is much more than that, in fact, I'd argue that it's primarily NOT that.
The infinite scrollwheel of 502 is something I couldn't live without, hopefully mine will survive until their patent expires because Logitech only has like 3 options with it. Need more competition to choose from!
I don't understand. Several other mice have this feature. Like my Razer Basilisk v3
Keychron m6 that came out somewhat recently has it. Logitech has been officially dead to me since getting one. Multiply g502 and mx master, reduce to weight to 80 grams and sell it for $50. That's what the keychron m6 is.
@@ze_or Nice, although not sure if I could make do without the macro buttons of 502. But that does indeed have the mechanical button for it, wonder how they're getting around the patent. Since from my understanding the patent is still active for few years. (to the end of 2026 I believe)
@@ze_or I own both G502X and Keychron m6. m6 is nice and light but the software is awful, you can't change profile without opening the software, there is no button to change profile on the mouse. Beside that m6 have fewer keys than G502 that didn't help because there is no layers (or the equivalent of G-shift) on m6. The scrollwheel unlock button on m6 is really nice though due to the short travel distant, I never unlock the wheel on G502 because the button is hard to press.
@@hanley6478 I usually don't change my mouse bindings and just rebind forward/back on the app i'm using instead, so I can't really relate personally, but I see where you are coming from. Would've been really cool if keychron mouse could come with vial or something.
honestly, i think "designed for pros" is such a generic claim that anyone with common sense would realize means nothing; it doesn't really set any longer of expectation
Own mx mechanical and I am surprised that pro x 60 is such downgrade. If someone only considers logitech keyboards, just go with mx. It is little bit cheaper, full size, does not rattle and upper part of case is metal.
I use the MX mechanical TKL. And it’s fantastic. I was using an Anne Pro 2 before, and I that thing feels awful in comparison.
I have the MX Mechanical Mini since almost a year and it's amazing.
I just bought the MX Mechanical Mini and it's really awesome. it's built like a tank and feels great to type on.
Would like to point out that the keyboard case is cheap trash that you can buy premade with customized logos for about 1000 buckaroonies for 100 pieces or there about. You essentially start with a flat sandwich that gets heat formed, to which then they either glue or use a shoe type sewing machine to sew on the zipper. The whole op is less than 5 minutes per case and can be done with stuff you have at home you so desire.
First pro of this keyboard:
It's available in non american layouts.
It's got way better latency than Keychron's keyboards do
So there is a reason to get it over others, even over keychrons.
Latency is an argument I see brought up a lot, but in practice most keyboards have an acceptable latency for the majority of gamers and most people won't tell the difference
@@HipyoTech pro gaming gear has been chasing latency beyond human perception and performance for a long time. optical switches on keyboards and mice exist just for this reason. also they have longer lifespan because there is no mechanical contact and abrasion.
if your focus is gaming, you get a wooting and not this trash.@@haomingli6175
I have Logitech G613 lightspeed and I have a RK84PRO. I cannot tell the difference between either and I'm playing Apex Legends with them. Granted I prefer my Wooting 60HE for Apex for Super Glides but the difference in latency is not noticeable unless I swap to BT. I've been able to pull off Super Glides with both. If you HATE Keychron there are plenty of other options like Nuphy and Lofree.
keychron is also available in non american layouts.
Try the Razer Basilisk V3. It has an infinite scroll wheel, but you can click a button just below it to switch to clicky scrolling. I know some Logitech have that too, but I use middle click all the time, so I can't stand the type that switches scroll modes with middle click. My favorite part though is that it has a smart mode where the scroll wheel is clicky until you try to scroll extra fast and then it automatically switches to infinite scroll until you stop it or it loses momentum, then it goes back to clicky. So nice, especially for like video editing and scrolling through long pages.
The Logitech switches on and off infinite scroll the *exact* same way.
@@EtherealDoomed It has the smart scroll though? I know it has the button. I hadn't seen any other mouse had the smart scroll feature.
@@EtherealDoomed I looked it up and the G502 mice don't have it. Logitech calls it SmartShift and apparently it's only on their MX Master mouse. I'm glad it uses a button to shift between modes instead of middle click. It was just some older Logitech mice I knew did that. The smart shifting is so good though.
@@802Garage No, the Anywhere 3 and 3S have MagSpeed Smartshift as well.
@@Artistikk Good to know. The G502 referenced in the video does not.
$180!? You could build two sick custom keyboards with this money.
You could get a wooting for that money
@b0mberr330 Yep. And in the world of gaming keyboards, Wooting reigns king with very few remotely close competitors.
You could buy a blank GMMK and a set of keyswitches and keycaps for less than that. Hell even a prebuilt GMMK costs $160 so what are they smoking?
@@Shyvorix I agree on wooting performance but unfortunately non hot swappable keyboards are unusable to me because the only keyswicthes I find tolerable are Kailh pinks with jades on the larger keys. I grew up with IBM bucking springs so quiet / soft keytswitches are intolerable to me and even cherry and gateron tactile switches feel yucky. The kailh pink / jade is the closest mechanical switch I've found to a bucking spring.
And those wouldn't be missing half the keys.
This company made a name for itself among '90s geeks, but back then, the field was uncharted, and every piece of junk seemed like a marvel. But today, junk is just junk, and this company keeps churning out nothing but junk! I can't understand how it hasn't disappeared from the market 20 years ago.
HAHA: "I don't like it when my keyboard makes sounds when I'm not typing on it."
This is literal self-sabotage on part of Logitech. This is enough to make me never want to buy a Logitech keyboard ever again.
"Why do they call this thing... pro?" - That's easy. Because Logitech, like Apple, has a bunch of fanbois who will buy anything they make, so they jacked up the price on a $30 keyboard and named it "PROFIT", imagining all of the money that would be rolling in. However, someone thought that was a little TOO on the nose, so they shortened it to just "PRO".
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Now we just need streams....
A few months ago I bought a CoolerMaster SK622 60% keyboard, as I wanted to have a teeny mechanical keyboard to bring along to LAN parties and such. Considering I just needed WASD+Space for 90% of the games I played, it's done the job quite nice. While I was watching this video, I was comparing the Logitech to my CoolerMaster, and the only thing I envied was the carrying case and the volume slider on the side. Everything else was leaps and bounds better than the Logitech, and my CoolerMaster only cost $90 USD (But I got it on sale for $59)
I'm sorry you had to pay this much for a coolermaster keyboard. For that much money you could have gotten a luck65 that has features you would have only seen on 300 or 400+ dollar keyboards 5 years ago, but now those kinds of custom keebs can be had for 60 bucks. Insane value if you ask me.
Such a shame. I loved their G915 TKL keyboard so was expecting more. I def wanna see you react to their build video though 😂.
I am looking forward to these keyboards when they eventually go on Sale.
Back in 2022 I bought a G Pro Keyboard for $20 at target. Those normally go for $120, so I expect these to go on sale at some point for similar prices, because at $40, its probably worth it.
Nah bro I wouldn't pay nore than 20 for this thing, 40 is too much.
Epic video, its cool seeing how far Hipyo has come. Would love to see more Steelseries next!
If you are resting your pinky on the case and not on the shift key while gaming you are MENTAL (completely agree with the rest though)
I rest my left 5, 4, and 3 fingers on the side case when I'm typing or coding. I hover over ESC and ALT-TAB. Without resting on the side, hovering would wear the hand out quicker. I suppose it might be the same for navigating the game UI.
6:04 YES. We seek cringe.
I built a custom keyboard for my client for 70$ and it's much better, than this Logitech...
Kinda weird that after making the G915, they make this. The G915 is overall a solid keyboard.
You have never tried a real keyboard then lol
True I’ve had my 915 for 5 years now and it’s still doing a good job. If I ever buy another keyboard it might be the Rainy75
@@AbiPrasad sorry, mine are all out of ginger bread
@@AbiPrasaddude the g915 has the best flat keys i have ever felt or seen, thats due to the thin switches they have and the body us full aluminum, the mechanics of it feel amazing thats honestly their only solid keyboard
You set your expectations a little high when reviewing a $170 keyboard.
The issue with a big company doing mechanical keyboards that are good enough for enthusiast is repair/replacement costs.
The “standard” hot swap system is great, but it is something that is hard to “automate” to mass produce and they are prone to ma factoring errors where the socket is not 100% aligned and so they pop off when the user installs a switch….meaning they face a choice to either have a generous refund policy or to have angry customers. It just makes sense to try to come up with a “new and innovative” switch system.
What I’m getting at…they just won’t be able to make something that is cheap enough to hit the “mass market” represented by people who want a good keyboard for gaming but has the quality expected by a keyboard enthusiast.
That plays a role, but in reality they just want to maintain their obscene margins and play it safe with what has historically worked really well.
@@HipyoTechYeah, for example Polar65, drunkdeer a75 pro, and Boog75 are all hotswap and much better quality than this, along with hall effect switches which are infinitely better for gaming.
@@Tendeethose are all Chinese brands which probably pay their workers even less that Logitech pays their Chinese workers. So many of the rando Chinese keyboard brands are able to be very nimble in their home market and get good deals on parts. It's why when they make a key board everyone loves half the time it sells out and they never make it exactly the same way again.
@@strayiggytv The different batches of the zoom75 are still just as good though?
@@Tendee i mean I assume they are. Only way to know would be to open them up and see what the quality is in the inside.
Logitech has completely dropped the ball in the last 4 years. Fallen off the map completely. Their mice have stagnated, their keyboards have stagnated.
I had Logitech g413 with tactile switches and there also bump was absent. In topic of gaming keyboard do you plan review new Keychron Q1 HE?
Hypio, I beg you! Please review the AttackShark K85, it's a budget hall effect keyboard with a ton of "stock mods", this thing is insanely good, it frigging thocks! It has factory lubed switches and stabilizers, and there is very little stem wiggle(to me at least), and the best of all: the stabs, brooo the stabs are something else, no rattle, at all, this thing is solid!
Specs:
80% ANSI layout(sadness for me that uses ISO derived layouts)
PC plate
Silicone Gaskets(superb performance btw)
KNOB
North facing RGB LEDs, big sad(specially because it uses double shot PBT with not shine-through)
Please review it, it's great for the price!(best bang for buck I have seen)
Love, bye!
Hi Hipyo! What was that other keyboard at half the price of the G60? Also, cool headphones, what headphones are you using?
Replying because I also want to know! It looked/sounded very cute!
Epomaker x Feker Galaxy 80 I believe
@@kambojsbTech do you know what the one he said is a lot better and a bit more expensive please?
Forget the "2024 standards" it is not even 2023 standard... maybe 2018/2019... they should cut the price to 60$ and make a v2 g915 tkl with a god damn usb-c !!!!
Logitec can only make mouses
Everyone knows, the word "Pro" somewhere in the model name always doubles its price.
But anyway, I find obsessing about a keyboard for a solid 20 minutes is beyond absurd, but I have a life so what do I know.
And this is exactly the reason why I really like building shit myself. Upgrading an old keyboard these days will give you alot more for your money - and personal satisfaction - than these days tbh.Also edit:
There are atleast 3 typos in the video text, so you maybe wanna give your editor a shoutout to double check the text edits all the time.
They went to Ali of the Express and ordered those keyboards.
I paid 20 bucks for an entry level keyboard and mouse set at Walmart a few years ago because the old Lenovo board I was using at the time literally died while I was in the middle of a game.
This set the bar *really quite low* when I came into this video, especially considering that, in the intervening time, I've bought two Jlab boards and been given an IBM Model M and a KeyTronic IBM M4-1.
Aside from wanting to grab an 8bitdo for on the go to phase out the Jlabs the Model M ruined for me, I already know my endgame boards at this point, and a Logitech one ain't it, chief.
The problem with big companies like Logitech is that the team working behind these products has a limited budget, have to meet tight deadlines and most importantly, have to make a product that will make more profit than the last quarter. How do they keep doing that? By scamming everyone.
Smaller companies have more freedom, with fund raising you could have a really good budget to work with, provided you are giving people what they want, and the teams behind smaller companies don't have their hands tied.
That said, I'm not defending Logitech or any big companies, they are a disgrace, despite having some great products like you said, for me it's the superlight 2, very good build quality and performance for its weight. It's 2024 and big companies using their brand/past reputation to scam consumers is nothing new, people just need to be smart about buying something to avoid the scams, and honest reviewers are a blessing to everyone.
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Razer has some mice with the infinite scroll now too. Just thought I'd leave that here for anyone that wants options lol. (It's a little different not being on a bearing but using some fero fluid tech instead, but it feels and functions similar enough)
As a hardcore gamer, I tend to agree with you that the benefit to the hall effect switches is a little bit exaggerated. I'm sure it helps but "this is basically cheating" is a little much.
Just cause a company has a ton of money doesn't mean they don't put out trash.
What do you mean there's nothing in the box aside for the keyboard, they filled the box with the premium air all tech companies put in with their minimalist products.
I've yet to discover how exactly a 60% keyboard can be NOT trash. And its not about the quality. Its about missing the freakin kays!
How 179$ is ok for just a keyboard?! I literally bought decent 65% red mechanic (hot swap,blue backlight) keyboard for just 12 bucks from discount!! And yes it sound and looks amazing.Some people are stupid enough to buy those trash overpriced things instead buying good value/performance gadgets
Every "gaming" keyboad is a scam tbh, the only one id even come close to recommending is the razer huntsman mini
Logitech is famous for making false marketing claims and never really get penalized for it. I have blacklisted buying any Logitech products ever since the webcam fake pics and claims. Spend your hard earned money on products that push the industry to new highs and offer better value.
I wish this man also ran a gaming channel. I could listen to his voice and his commentary all day, I love it
"pinky gate" the fact the keyboard makes it horrible to not use your pinkyt, is a step in the right direction. You found the ONLY good thing about the keyboard is that it makes bad people have to learn to place their fingers right.
Ironically, I'm currently repairing two of my brother's old Orions and making them hot-swappable with the Romer G switch...
But damn, Logitech, I mean, Logi is still one of the worst companies when it comes to quality, repairability and device customization...
BUT YOU PAY THE PRICE !
My dad had myme pick something for black friday last year for my birthday, and although I pucked the razer huntsman optical instead of analog, it's still very great* (besides the software on my 12 year old pc), the design was subtle with the name across the bottom, freely changeable lighting, binding and performance despite the awkward price, and the addition of swapping switches if I really wished. Logitech's board feels like a direct copy of analog board, but being nearly worse then one even I own. I think the main benefit of this would be how compact it is with the side wheels in addition to good lighting and maybe ok response times (though wired) or click feel, but still it feels like a dated keyboard releasing in the current era. My assumption is that they had ideas of releasing and 60% but forgot years ago and are just trying to compete with the better more sophisticated brands. I'm still convinced that they only knew what they were doing years ago when making stuff like the g502 and other peripherals back then. In fact their bigger older boards are prob cheaper and give better performance for the price.
One of keyboard i buy from logitech is the g13 at launch date. Still used it after more then a decade.
They should make a newer version of the g13 imo.
Their mice are very well known for having crappy switches. They have a tendency to start do double clicking in a matter of months.
I don’t know.. something about tiny keyboards just feels cheap to me. The way that you can’t even see the case if you look top-down feels like they’re trying to hide how cheap it is.
Floating caps also gives the vibe that they couldn’t be bothered to make a case that fit the incredibly cheap keys. Does this thing even have an F row?
I like a big keyboard with a number pad. Gives my hands space to move around, which.. i suppose isn’t very gamer of me but I like writing instead.
It feels like a travel board! One you pick up bc it can fit on the tiny airplane trays and you don’t really care about.
The g502 x plus lightspeed is my favorite mouse of all time, which of course it is because the g502 x and normal g502 were my favs b4 it. It makes playing games that require tons of keys like Destiny 2 SOOO much better. That infinite scroll wheel is great as well.
I returned my G502X Plus, absolute downgrade from the OG G 502 LS. Switches were awful sounding very hollow and the pinging was on another level, palm grippers will hate it because they didn't bother to taper the sharp angles where your palm sits and the scroll wheel is worse. On one hand, it is noticeably lighter I just bought another g502lightspeed instead. It'll last another 5 years, hopefully Logi will come back with something good by then. Been using their mice since G5 days.
Razer was making 60% keyboards while Logitech was THINKING about it. Hell, the 3rd party keyboard market was doing this a couple of years before RAZER decided to jump on the the 60% hype train. Talk about being late to the party.
Any keyboard that isn't an linear, optical switch setup is a waste of time. Ultimate smoothness, zero debounce delay, lowest effort (for a stock keyboard)... it just feels good to type on for hours at time, and it's, of course, great for gaming, too. I absolutely can't go back to a "mechanical" keyboard. You can't make me.
Logitech charging premium and delivering the bare minimum is the most Logitech thing ever.
It's almost like the biggest companies make the worst things
It's basically an OK keyboard ruined by its price and its own marketing team
logitech is cooked... in the past year, razer has gotten better keyboards (they already did anyway) and also mice than logitech... FIGHT ME I THINK LOGITECH IS GONNA BE NON RELAVENT FOR THE REST OF THE DECADE. (also are we gonna ignore the fact that this is just a overpriced version of the razer huntsman mini but worse?)
The full metal plate being stiff can be a redeeming feature. Stiff (can feel more responsive) vs Flex (I've definitely had boards feel sluggish and too flexy)
"I want a switch puller, a key cap puller" Custom boards have given me nothing but garbage. Thanks for not shipping more garbage with the board.
"Look at the wobble" Yeah. Less wobble than the Wooting XD
@logitech, where did you conjor this abomination, in a lab expirement gone wrong.😊
The kendrick lamar verse cutaway was great lmao. Fun fact, kendrick lamar's disses are copyright free
Well I mean it’s alright looks wise I guess, it’s just not good. Also my custom keyboard is miles better so :/
They called it "pro" to charge an extra $80-90 MSRP beyond what they could have sold it at with their brand name and the features it had alone.
Hey Hipyo, new fan here! What was the keyboard you presented at 15:20? Just started to become obsessed with my keyboards lately and I want to own my 3rd soon :P
I rest my pinky on the left side of my board, I have worn the edge of my e-white board...
I think the last time Logitech ever tried to innovate in any field was when Spartacus led a slave uprising against a Roman Empire.
i would LOVE a video on your mouse! my partner has been looking for a new mouse and yours looks really awesome so i'd love to learn more about why you love it!
Logitech does not get a software pass. A couple years ago Logitech forced an update of the Logitech software control center which was not compatible with Windows 7 machines. Older disc copies of the control center automatically update without user prompting or control. They effectively destroyed all of their legacy drivers by doing this.
LOL. How convenient for the user that updates are automated.
"Revolutionary" I feel like the employee who said that took inspiration from the announcement that Iphones are gonna get usb type c thinking their also the first to do it.
Logitech makes good mouses but anything else I've ever tried by this brand has been bottom-of-the-barrel so I never would've paid $180 for Logitech anything.
Remember when logitech made cool keyboards with 18 macro keys on the left side and a LCD DISPLAY built into the keyboard you could program yourself to display all sorts of useful metrics from the task manager cpu% to whatever program you wanted pretty sure someone got bad apple to run on one. I do remember those days. Those were mush keyboards that felt really good to type on to, the G11-G-15's anyway. Anything after that is when LOGITECH starting going into dumb cheapass mode that their stuck in today, but still demanding beyond premium prices, in a market where you can get a 30$ hotswapable mech keyboard with a numpad off amazon or ebay.
I remember when logitech was about quality and more budget friendly products, they are the opposite now
to some extent, i don't think a keyboard, even if designed to be customizable, needs to come with pullers. why? cuz those are super cheap things that you can get elsewhere and don't need to hoard or have filling landfills with every new keyboard you get.
but some caveats i suppose, if you're buying from a company where their entire point of existence is to provide fully customizable/build your own keyboards, then it kinda makes sense.
or, you know, maybe have an option when buying online to have the pullers included, this way if you need/want you can, but if not, it's not wasteful.
thats kinda becoming a theme in the major brand spaces. corsair products are outdone by price and not having an awful software attached to it (psus aside but theyre slowly losing ground there too) while logitech, razer, hyperx, and steelseries are still making keyboards and mice like its 2017 (with little exception) gaming headsets were never good. the best stuff seems to be coming from brands dedicated to that one peripheral and its not even more expensive than the big brands most of the time, in fact its usually cheaper
Logitech took a huge L on this. Can literally get a Royal Kludge aluminum frame keyboard for a lot cheaper, still keeps Bluetooth, and ACTUAL hotswapable switches. (not to mention you get a keycap puller).
That thing is basically a chinese $18 mech from 2016. Like the Tomoko I-500, which sold at one point for $8 free shipping on amazon.