Which Mechanical Keyboard Switches are BEST? Blind Test!
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This wasn’t explained enough, the labels show one keyboard, so I’m assuming it shows what keyboard they’re using in every clip, but it doesn’t show what keyboard they’re comparing to, so there’s no real context
Isn't that the entire point of a blind test
@@bruhder5854 yes, but we, the audience trying to learn more, don't need to be blind.
Agreed
@@bruhder5854 Yes, the goal is that the participants do not know what keyboard is using which switch. However, in many clips they are making companions to the other keyboard they have at the desk, and as we as viewers don't know what they are referencing, its hard to follow.
True
this video's format is soo hard to follow. I can't tell which keyboard is which at all lol
LIANG DID YOU EDIT THIS
fr like what is happening
As a tip .. there is the number written on a green sticker that can be seen often.. that way i had a orientation which keyboard is the displayed one. Also most of the times the comments are just on the showcased ones so dont think too much about it :D
@@suppar8066 true but the number is really small and hard to see, it takes away from the review if you’re squinting to see which keyboard is which
Same
It's been 2 years. Please redo this video with what's in the market today!
Video needed to be re-done after release. The way this was edited together was impossible to follow, nothing was useful apart from the comparison table at the end
@@ajburdett882 The problem is that LTT didn't give us the full amount of information regarding switch types and if they modified the keyboard for the purposes of filming, as these variables affect the way in which the user interacts with the switches. Whether the switches were lubed prior to filming or stock also changes the way in which the user reacts to the keyboard in regards to feel, sound, and responsiveness.
@@yakitatefreak I think it's safe to assume everything is stock. The problem was that when the person was comparing two different switches we were only showing one of the two that they were talking about and weren't shown what they were comparing it to, also they only showed us a handful of the switches for each person we didn't see everyone's opinions on each switch
I don't think it would add anything. It is already clear how uneducated ltt are in regards to custom mechanical keyboards. Sure they are getting better, but that is in large part to one staff member.
@@yakitatefreak i can agree with you, i'd like more Gamer Nexus like break downs for each switch
Honestly the last 2 minutes of this video are way more useful then any of the hands on reviews beforehand just because of how hard it was to figure out which keyboard was which.
yeah the format was terrible, near impossible to follow
Right? I had no idea which keyboards they were referring to.
Yes
I disagree, there is no most useful part, the ones who rated them all went to familiarity or actuation force..
I 100% agree
I was confused throughout the whole video what keyboard was what 😞
Mass drop ctrl.
drop.com/buy/drop-ctrl-mechanical-keyboard ?
@@Berbby he was talking about switches
Yeah. What is the point of this video when the viewer can't even know what keyswitches were being compared to what?
Yeah their labeling in the video was not well thought out at all
"Cherry MX browns won
"
glarses: *b r u h*
/r/mk: So you have chosen death
mat
@@cc-000 I hope you know that keyboard is only hotswappable with only the other optical switches
@@cc-000 i mean that is a nice keyboard but for 60 buck's you could have gotten a gmmk from glorious as it is hot swappable and it can be 60% and you can put in any 3 pin switch (if you have a 5 pin you can just cut of the legs). It also has a aluminium top plate so that might be something that you will like.
@@cc-000 It's not a ridiculous budget. Don't know why you were banned. Probably just a mod having a bad day, or it was something else you did. You can appeal the ban if what you say is true, and you will likely be unbanned.
People at r/mk know a lot about keyboards. You just wanna ask the right people. Asking a question like: "what's the best switch" will bring in trolls. And there is no such thing as a best switch either. Ask more specific questions, or narrow it down to two switches (tangerines vs alpacas for example) and then people will give you different aspects of each switch and tell you which one they prefer.
1:52 tactile
6:01 linear
10:07 clicky
16:08 summary
Would be cool if LTT included that info, but at least the color coded categories made scrubbing through easier!
Yes
thank you god
"MX Browns win"
*Desoldering gun is heard in the background*
BRRR BRRRR BRRRR BRR BRRRR
Throughout the whole video until the final table, I had no clue what was happening or what keyboards they're comparing. Love the prep and effort that went into this test but it was not clear what was happening at all
This video was edited terribly I was in the same boat
If they just nailed the first clip in each category it would be fine, they didn’t show the 2 keyboards they were comparing from the start so I was confused too. But subsequent clips just (I would assume) comparé the new keyboard to the one they picked before.
Agreed, should have always been "Switch A vs Switch B" in all the clips
Its edited in a way for the participant to only give impressions on the keyboard highlighted its true that they mask what's the keyboard they're comparing it with at that exact moment, but, its actually easy to know, as the winner keyboard should be the one that stays the longest in the table.
I had no idea what half of those keyboards were. I think one was called Zealot or something.
"James is able to identify the switches visually"
me: "He is the chosen one!"
*He is our new god*
He probably was the one who designed the test and wrote down the names on the back
Keyboard: _Why do I hear boss music?_
@@tanmaypanadi1414 What difference would that make? Every keyboard has the same looks.
@@squidwardo7074 alot of the switches are either a different color, different design or a combination of both so if you got a quick peek under the keycap you could probably tell on some
It is worth pointing out that the C³EQUALZ Tangerine 62g are pre-lubed, that might have played a significant role as to why so many preferred them.
Because they are the best
That doesn't change anything, it just means that the tangerine has a feature that the others didn't bother to implement and is relatively very cheap to do, +1 point for them
All of the other switches sound unlubed.
I now understand the editing! It's not in chronological order. Every time someone is talking about a keyboard, they're talking about the one on screen. But there's no way to know what they're comparing against, so having on screen names for these switches would've been a lot of effort, but really appreciated. Most importantly, if the name is revealed, it means that the participants have done all comparisons and that was their final keyboard. I understand this was an editing nightmare and a challenge to present, but I still think having the names of all keyboard on screen ( so above the left or right one), sure would've been more effort but would be a million times better. Still, not understanding comparisons aside, after figuring this out it makes a lot more sense! good vid :D
Yup! And thanks for explaining!
It’s so needlessly frustrating to watch this video because of the poor editing, I don’t even know what two switches keys they are comparing at one time without assuming!
Yup, testing 22 switches with 16 participants would've needed at least a 40 minute to an hour video. They should've made this a multi-part series or released three separate videos on linear, tactile, and clicky just so that we have more in-depth reaction.
drw frnndo no it wouldn’t.,. This would have been fine with graphics on each keyboard as they type and test so we know wtf theyre talking about. No need to lengthen video... just labels.
I didn't get it either
@@ertonyrn You didn't even see their reactions to the Novelkeys Cream. The creams are so hyped right now that I want to know how they stack up. This video just shows how they got to their choices. I want to know if the creams are actually good or just hype. As you can see from this blind test, keyboard enthusiasts (in general) are just a bunch of elitist snobs; needlessly hating on Cherries when in fact they'd probably pick cherries if ever they were subjected to the same blind test.
@@drwfrnndo As a builder and a keyboard enthusiast this is completely false, Cherry switches (when unmodified/unlubed) are horribly scratchy compared to the rest of the competition and the weightings are either too light or heavy as hell. There are so many switches out there that outclass Cherry in all categories. If you were to put me in the same blind test I would be able to tell which one is Cherry and which one is Gateron for example. They are just that scratchy. I even made a sound test of Gateron Browns and even those are a lot smoother feeling than Cherry Browns lol.
“James was able to tell the switch by the scent, so we have removed his ability to smell.”
"James has developed telepathy, so we have had to wipe the memories of the crew before filming so he can't read their minds."
James was able to tell the switch by the taste, so we put a mask on him.
permanently.
“James was able to tell the switch, so we have removed his ability to live.”
“James was able to tell the switch by the feel, so we have removed him from the video”
"James is able to identify the switches visually"
me: HOOOOW??? He can see through plastic but not fiber???
if i had to guess he put in the switches for the board and he has some superhuman memory and remembers tiny details like scratches or smudges on the boards
@@williamnolan6214 Nah, you can see the bottom of the switches on the keyboard they're using, a lot of the switches they tried have different housing colors. Like the C3 Tangerines have bright orange color that you can see clear as day.
low profile cases like Drop Ctrls usually show the switches
1:50 - Tactile
2:09 - Zeal PC Zilents V2
2:58 - Zeal PC Zealios V2
3:55 - Massdrop Halo True
4:53 - Cherry MX Brown (Winner)
6:00 - Linear
6:13 - C3 Tangerine 62G (Tangerine)
7:32 - Zeal PC Roselios
9:10 - Zeal PC Tealios V2
10:06 - Clicky
10:33 - Novelkeys Sherbet (Winner)
12:14 - Kailh Blue
13:17 - Novelkeys x Kailh Box Jade
14:30 - Cherry MX Blue
15:13 - Kailh Box White
16:10 - Results
Spoilers WeirdChamp
bro just copied the original comment and pasted
MX Brown winning must have pissed a lot of r/mk people lol
Found a random Miraie in the wild
It's always been a great switch, people just love to hate because it's "popular". (Popular for a reason lol)
@@JamesRussoMillas It's because its scratchy and barely has any tactile bump at all. A picture comparison of the stems against a zealio v2 for example is noticeably clear.
Can confirm, don't wanna gatekeep tho
James Russo I have both MX Brown and the infamous well praised Zealios V2. In terms of tactile they actually feel really different. Zealios is “more tactile” than Browns, but that doesn’t make it a “bad switch”. That’s how I feel at least. Sure they might not be “true tactile” but def not as bad as people complained. I had way worse experience on other switches lol
People be getting mad about their pcs having too loud of fans but buying keyboards that wake up the dead
Jayden Burton some sounds you want to hear and some sounds you don't
Jayden Burton some sounds you want to hear and some sounds you don't
and then there's the poor people who can only afford the outemu blue keyboards like me
Smh, bc you can hear flicks with a mic on. Comment sense but people are idiots these days
@@notTerabyte are outemu worse than kailh?
I watched this video when it came out - I have watched it DOZENS of times now (I love keyboards and it was a fun video... wish we had more of these) and I JUST NOW understood the comparison process they used. I don't know why it clicked today, but I always still enjoyed the video because it was just one big typing test with my favorite channel.
Please do more of these!
“It is really light”
“It almost takes no pressure to press it.”
Ah yes, light -tactile- linear feeling.
i never thought i'd see keyboard speed-dating, yet here we are.
I love this comment
Give this commentator a medal!
loll
E
ngl that sounds so sad but yeah never been on a date soooooo
I'd love to have such a selection to try out. I find it so hard to decide without actually using it. Even those keytesters are totally useless for me with just one or a few keys per switch. I'd really need complete keyboards with different switches.
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"weaker competition in the category"
category with zealios and holy pandas
and Kiwis
4:23 "James is able to identify the key switches visually"
James is the type of dude to lick a key cap and tell you the part number lol
I was gonna ask how the hell is anyone able to tell that? Are they referring to the part under the key cap?
Curly Same
@@nat-country7934 it means alot of them have slightly different base shapes according to brand even though they mount the same. if james is a keyboard fanatic and goes through a million switches it would be pretty easy to pick up and remember the differences
@@KableTac ah ok thanks mate
But he mistook Kailh blues for Box jades ?_?
Bruh the entire time I had no idea what switches were on the table. It was so hard to keep up.
Also really wish we could've seen the reaction to Holy Pandas.
They probably didn't react much considering mx brown won.
Or Creams
Yea there's no way they would have even understood, these people would find a way to say the pandas feel like blues
@@alexc.8424 it's almost like more tactility does not make a switch better. I'm sure that most of the people preferred a subtle bump instead of mike tyson punching them in the face
The funny thing is that they all claimed to prefer tactile over linear, but you accidentally put MX Browns in the tactile category and they won.
LMAO
Fax
Your comment dosent make any sense... mx browns are tactile
Nono they’re a hybrid, they’re marketed as tactiles, but we all know they’re just scratchy linears that your little brother used for a week, got dirt in them, and now they just crunch. That right there is what goes on in the factory when cherry mx browns are made
Edit:autocorrect screwed me
@@ToomanyFrancis agreed
16:27
Glarses: so you have chosen death
Everyone else: tests the keyboards as they would use them irl
Riley: *hacks into the mainframe*
Some of us login to the mainframe but don't hack
*EXTRACTING KERNEL DATA 76%*
hack? Ha! What is this..the early 2000's.....clicks on jerryrigeverything's razr tear down...
Isnt that his irl? ;)
Finds it deprecated and wiped of any useful data.
Jake: daily drives a Blue keyboard on the office. Also Jake, blind testing the blue switches: "You use this if you want your coworkers to hate you"
👁👄👁
Self-referential humor, maybe? 🤣
Blues??? Ew!
I fuckin love blues though. Not my fault you don't wear headphones while you work.
@@gunfumaster1024 they objectively suck
I’ve been using gateron optical blue switches for a while now and they still feel and sound great and I’m thinking about switching boards for one with better key stabilization and might get new switches
If LTT ever makes an update on this, please see this:
1. Please please do a better format and table when comparing. As you can see in the comments, people do not know which keyboard you are referring to. The numbers and all that is so confusing.
2. instead of them just spamming randomly on the keyboard, make them do a typing test and test out the spacebar, enter, esc keys esc like most youtubers do. Trust me it is ALOT more better that way
3. Collab with someone like Taeha or any other well known peeps in this hobby so that you can get better information on certain keys and some fun facts and such. I understand that this is a blind test but it seems that too many people do not even know what is what here. Bottom of line of this point is to find a balance of knowledge here.
4. Please have someone to double check your timeline in the video when its done. To my knowledge, it has been Intro, Tactile, Linear and Most Replayed for the longest time when someone in your team could have easily added the Clicky category in.
We just gonna ignore Luke saying “am I typing on boobs?”
And then Jake saying "I've never typed on anything like this before."
"Like typing on a cloud of boobs" is a phrase in the MK community to describe certain light+linear switches.
Are we just gonna ignore that you have 69 likes
There's an old keyboard at my workplace that's like this..it's so soft, yet it still feels mechanical..it's weird. It's like the keys are damped by cotton.
You mean "honor" instead of ignore, right?
tip of advice: get blues to unlock a killer roommate!
i'd suggest kalih box jades because your roommate will murder you in your sleep once you type on them
@@asc7193 lol
i use blues, i live alone
Greens get the job done too
@@arodia3070 i mean thats quite sad man :(
my first mechanical keyboard was a pictek Blue switches. absolutely love them. now I can't type on anything other than Blue switches. I do not wish to annoy folks around me but I just like the sound and feel.
I can personally attest to having ‘key switch memory’
Recently I picked up a pack of sample switches because I wanted to make my own mech keyboard, and initially I liked box jades (which feel a lot like my razor cynosa chroma’s rubber domes), but after really giving all of the switches a chance, I don’t like them nearly as much and more prefer less tactile options.
If you want to make your own keyboard, I strongly recommend getting a switch sampler and using it as a fidgeting object for at least a month before buying a full set of any switch. It saved me from jades, it could save you too.
Which switches do you liked more at the end?
@@albertleonhart3093 I ended up going with gateron yellows. Once lubed, they are a great combination of force, smoothness, and value.
@@LR_Jenkins Good choice! Thanks for your answer
I'd add that if you're *not* interested in popping open switches to lube/film/mod them, then Gateron Yellows are still a great option, at least compared to other stock linear switches.
Linus: "You gotta live alone with this keyboard noise"
His wife: "I really like this one!"
its fun when youre the one typing them, but its torture the other way around
You can get (standard, from Cherry, WASD et al) small rubber rings to put over the key shafts that damp the noise a bit - I haven't felt the need for them yet myself though ... then again I do have my own room. :-)
@@RogerBarraud you can algo get cherry red silent . No rubber rings needed. Y like linear BTW.
@@irionegarciastrobl8549 Nah lol, if you want silent you gotta go for lubed gateron yellows for the ultimate smoothness
@@RogerBarraud Pro tip: just use those small rubber rings you get from the dentist. They work just as well as those "specifically made" for keyswitches and are way cheaper. Just be careful that you get the right size.
Gamers: I need my system to essentially not make a single noise at any given moment.
Also gamers: Buys a keyboard that can be heard from across the continent
I hate keys that make noise some of these were pretty guite though still use nf a 20 dollar Walmart keyboard though so eh
I've had family complain about my mx brown switches, fml what a bunch of mushy membrany heretics (edit: because of the noise, apparently people who have never used mechanicals think browns are loud lol)
I've had complaints about my cherry browns when I "converted" my home stuff over about 5 years ago, now all keyboards in the house are browns, including 2/3 laptops (was actually a major purchasing decision), lol.
I type a lot, am a programmer, first thing I spent my salary on was taking 20% of it to buy mouse, keyboard and two 4k displays with a VESA mount, the comfort of work is quite important, if you're happy with work and your boss is happy with you, you're more likely to excel so pretty easy to get a raise (assuming you're skilled and know how to negotiate). ;)
lol don't forget enough neon strips to put the 90's to shame. and bright enought to keep the whole city well lit, with a UPS(unintruptable power supple) for 9 years as well as personal satalight connect at 0.0000000000000001ms and 2kfps...just for them to bitch about frame drops 1 minute latter
The only time I've had anyone wing about my keyboard was an aquaintence calling and I got bord. LOL she'll call and talk for hours on end never quite taking a subtle hint that she's talked in circles...wait actually had a GF with really good hearing that complained about the keyboard..
The reactions they have and facial expressions they get over clicks add button presses is hysterical
I'm going to copy paste another user's brilliant comment just in case you haven't seen it already:
"This is just the mechanical keyboard version of the Verge PC build."
This whole video in a nutshell:
1. CLICKITY CLACK CLACKITY CLACK CLACK
2. Riley's reactions
omg the clicks. by minute 12 i was struggling to finish the video
GamerTech minute 6 for me 😆 i came down here to see if it was just me who couldn’t stand the noise anymore
@@CandJGaming haha me too. I was like, there has to be some outrage over this clacking in my ears.
I watched the whole video at least 5 times yesterday haha. Had to see if my first and current mechanical keyboard is enough
11:51 WHERE IS THE DAMN SECOND R ??????!!!!!!!!! :D
IT'S SHER-BET
TF IS SHER-BERT
James' superpower: Is able to recognize mechanical switches visually.
@ZAQ Machinary The entire custom keyboard community probably can
Johnny whats going on man ?
i have the same power
idk how i have it
but i can guess it
cool line on the resume I think
@@alfredlau2914 i can tell between the ones that are common in the communty but i cant tell between ones i dont use often
C3 tangerines were on my radar since this video dropped, finally gonna install them on a new keeb this week!
Big W, hopefully you got a good price
Where did you get yours from? Ive been very interested in getting some, yet can't find the 62g
12:09 “stabilisation is nice” on a Drop CTRL… What I’d give to erase premium boards from my mind.
0:37 wow, I can’t believe the rug is stain resistant to clear water...
😂😂😂😂
You made me look and laugh. Thank you.
@FreshBum Sweat .... WhAt Do YoU mEaN?
@FreshBum Sweat This is a perfectly normal comment, and I didn't accidentally make a comment that made no sense before.
@@papatoni3311 My Spanish is gouda cheese wdym
The editing is a mess. I have no idea which switches were on the table, what is currently compared with what. There is one switch name there and I have no clue which of the two he currently reviews and what the other keyboard is. And after watching that mess for 15 minutes the results are presented i like 10 seconds and you have to pause the vid.
Agreed. There is enough context to match the sounds to the switches for at least one person out of each switch type, but I can't tell which keyboard they are typing on with them swapping around so much.
Yeah that made this video super unwatchable.
Yeah ZERO idea wtf is going on
I love the content and idea, but yes...all your points are valid here
Yes . I skipped the video halfway through. Even then It took me time to process the final results. Driver 1 and 2? There's a secret participant? There's no overall winner?. Basically MX brown switches is the winner and wins the majority vote... that's what I got out of it, but it took me a while to process. What a shame that LTT is dropping it's standards.
Cherry MX Browns are my daily typing and gaming key switch on my Filco Majestouch 2, I love them.
I love my G512 Gx Brown Tactile switches. It just feels and looks so good.
Riley: "I don't want to engage thrusters every time I click, I'll run out of fuel that way"
the utilitarian friend
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Lmaoo "James is able to recognise switches visually, that's why he's blindfolded"
Someone had to label them
Nah, he likes the blindfold. And I mean _likes_ likes.
He's like a pro chef he just knows next time he's gonna have to wear headphones too
@@harbl99 Um HR is going to have something to say about that
Clearly it's just his kink.
Just switched from mech to wireless Rapoo dome keyboard that has flat notebook keycaps with some kind of mousepad build in, it's not even bad to type without key travel and my desk has so much room now. Only this thing and the screen on the adjustable desk mount, drawing and reading are possible on the desk again! The typing speed did just drop a few wpm.
10:20, yeah i actually had to do that for a little while at my new apartment, the keys could be heard loudly from literally anywhere in the place.
Solid selection of switches, they really picked all the heavy hitters in the enthusiast community, excluding retro switches. I agree about the editing though, could not follow at all which switches were being compared.
which of those were retro switches?
Would love if they tried out retro switches from the 80's
I wish they gave the weights of the Zeal PC switches like they did for the Tangerine switches, because there are several options for each switch.
Doe someobody know what kinds of keyboars they used in the video? I'm new to this and looking for one thats not to "gaming" looking, these seemed pretty
@@beigelavender looks like a Drop CTRL keyboard
I feel like Linus was having a bad day when they filmed his one
You can say that about 50% of the videos on this channel.
Probably my 5th time watching this and my personal theory is that this was filmed on the day after the night linus recorded his retiring video[1] on the 23rd of January (about a month before this video) and that's the reason he looks like he's been crying.
Man! This was such a good video, introducing all these switches to the newcomers. Too bad it wasn't at the right time and as the other commenters point out really confusing editing with this one but it did manage to make some sense haha
[1]the video in question: th-cam.com/video/hAsZCTL__lo/w-d-xo.html
No, I just think he hates red switches that much.... Like everyone should
@@post-leftluddite he hates everything. and thinks cherry blue switches are "generic ass" switches. Keyboards are clearly outside his wheelhouse.
@@skyshay001 MX blues are really trash in the clicky category.
I've seen this like 4 times and I only just noticed that the lighting in the background is in alignment with the Cherry MX entry in that category
Nice. browns for the win.
While I did use the sample keys of 4 different ones, I've only owned one mechanical keyboard of browns.
i'm so confused, they are comparing two keyboards, there is clearly a difference, but the cards on screen only show one switch type.
Yea its like half a video...
Same I’m so confused wtf is going on
I think they cut the video so that they're mainly commenting about the switches that have their name displayed, but it's definitely confusing when the testers are directly comparing stuff.
Dont forget that they randomized the order people tested boards in to reduce order bias
So for the "MX Brown" section of the video they would have cut things out of order because browns might be James' first board, Riley's third board, etc etc
I'm not sure what a better way to cut the video would have been, given that aspect of the testing. I do wish they had explicitly said "these clips were rearranged to be grouped by board" or something similar
Everyone went in a completely different order, so they took the parts where each person was talking about the keyboard card on the screen so you got all of the information about 1 keyboard at a time.
7:15 James is the physical manifestation of r/mechanicalkeyboards
No lol. If he was an expert he would have known better and swapped all springs to the same weight for fair comparison. Cherry Browns won simply because of the familiar weight. Very disappointing video despite James' existence.
@@spidermain but then that's not stock experience. You can't compare switch like that if you use the same exact spring because at that point what do you even comparing really?
Tom Chan R U DUmb
@@PSS395 if you are getting more expensive switches anyway, you would be spring swapping to your liking. Keeping spring weights at stock introduces bias. People are literally only picking Browns because they are used to the weight. Kinda defeats the purpose of the whole video.
r/mk. the money hole jealousy pit
I feel like this is the sort of thing that every person needs to do to work out their preferred keyboard.
I bought Cherry reds for gaming like 6yrs now. The Cherry reds is so good when gaming, but it's not the best for typing text only. So, I recommend test the key switches under different working conditions, the results would be very different.
I had a really hard time following what was going on; I thought that the labels would change with the keyboard but it didn’t
One keyboard didn't change in each round
Question: what's your superpower?
James: I can recognize keyboard switches visually
colorblind people: [gasping in black&white]
@@ayporos WElL ACTuALLY THeY SEe THeM aS BROwn /s
I can smell their pressing texture!
You are in.
@@CocoLarge. i cant recognize sarcasm without /s thanks
Love browns, perfect amount of bump with a nice thocky sound to it! Love em!
Mx browns sucks lol
Mx browns are not tactile there is no bump
Its a linear
@@toromaru0912 no prob man, totally get if you have other preferences for switches. It’s all just a personal thing, no need to tell people their preferences suck, though I hope you enjoy whatever switches you like! Have a good one!
@@bigd2829 ok thanks man
I appreciate the huge variety of head shapes
10:24 Riley's Mr. Bean's impression was so on point.
The editor messed up though. The audience definitely needs to know what switches were being compared, not just the ones that won.
Edit: Also James, Linear keyboards do not require you to press the keys all the way down. If you had actually spent some time really researching about different types of key switches, you wouldn't have gotten so many things wrong in this video. You guys need to go back and learn about key switches again.
Ok i wasnt just this one with the problem 😂
they basically did that at the end
Wouldn't it be best if they didn't know at all what they were using while the test is not complete...
why bring in the risk of subjectiveness at all
@@Desterothx I think they just got their final choice of the category revealed
Temping as a word processor in the 90s, I was put in front of my first original IBM Model M keyboard. After a couple of days, my hands just ACHED from the high force required for keypresses.
We need a small store exclusively for trying out keyboards to see which is your favorite.
I want a store where I can go to and try all these switches!
It probably going to be tough finding a store like that in your area (although I know Japan has some stores dedicated to custom keyboards), but if you are curious, you can always get one of the switch testers. They by all means won't include all the switches on the market, but one of these will probably give you a good idea about what kind of switch you'd like since their samples include all the common types.
Agreed
@@spicychickenwing4207 they don’t have all the switches smh but hey do have a lot so ye.
@@ABTval just to clarify I meant it as a joke, I don't live in a country with Walmart so I didn't know lol
@@spicychickenwing4207 yeah I know so was mine it wasn’t meant to be offensive and if it was sorry didn’t mean for it to be.
"This is like you want your coworkers to hate you"
Well, last time I used a blue at work, my coworkers hid my keyboard while I was in the restroom.
True story.
In my office I control the music being played so when somebody annoys me I just put on some nice annoying music that they don't like to drive them out. >:D
I used Cherry Blues at work for a while, until my boss offered to buy me a new keyboard, lol! I got a Corsair K70 with Cherry Browns out of that exchange!
@@andmicbro1 ooff compare blue and brown what would you prefer?
@@EndomouEnd well it's a subjective topic soo he won't prefer what you do...anycase it depends on usecase and your preference
I went from membrane to MX speeds to MX brown (Corsair k95 rgb platinum)
Definitely prefer the Browns as the ideal inbetween typing and gaming
Well... i use a Model M at work and kailh box navy's at home... they are just to damn nice to type on. :)
i like silent flat buttons, especially if it comes with a cable and all the buttons... Just getting all buttons and a cable seem bothersome to find though.
have had some experiences where it felt like you had to push buttons a lot, while flatter buttons barely requires you to push them, some doesn't always seem to register on some keyboards though.
Interesting, the majority of us never have the opportunity to test that many switches side by side.
Linus: You'd have to live alone to use these
*immediately cuts to his wife liking them*
Bob Hoeck by far my favorite piece of editing in this video 😂
It's one thing to like typing on it and a whole different thing to listen to someone else grinding that shit for hours :D
Luke: "I feel like typing on boobs."
Jono: "Oh, God no, NO!"
Taran: "Ugh!"
David: "UHHH!!! I REALLY LIKE THIS!!!"
It's so fun put together, but was very interesting at the same time! 😄
Simon Andreassen the ones saying no are the ones not liking boobs lmao
And I still don't know which switches suit me best but the video was definitely helping me in my search ;D
What I'm going to suggest is all good in THEORY but I don't think really viable in PRACTICE but it would be way more interesting
I think the biggest problem with the format is the subjectivity. I loved the fact that there was some reference for what the person daily drives before testing but the problem is that there isn't alot of reference with weight of switches. A lot of the (higher-end) switches have different weight options that could feel and even sound immensely different.
Another criticism is that categories are way to broad to test them but that might be the fault of the industry as a whole. The fact that zealios could be in the same category as cherry brown is generally weird cause they are completely different and not even comparable.
If you were to do this type of test again I would suggest to get more sub categories for the different sections:
For tactile switches: low, mid & high tactility (compared via tactile bump)
For clicky switches: click jacket & click bar
Might be interesting to establish a weight preference to choose from beforehand (highest or lowest weight options)
Me: *spends 150 dollars on high quality quiet fans for pc case*
Also me: *gets blue switch keyboard that can be heard from mars*
Fuck quiet , you need power powwwwwwwaaaaaa
i mean keyboard sounds are satisfying while fans are annoying
Why does everyone make the same fucking comment
I personally like blue switches. I want my keyboard as loud as possible. Idk it feels like typing kn it makes it look like im doing shit but in reality nah
@@sayhowling haha same I love em
Now imagine being in a discord call, with someone who has a high quality microphone, an mx blue keyboard and can type 180 words per minute
Yeah, I'm that guy you're calling with. I'm very sorry and I regret my keyboard choices because of the loudness. They just feel so nice...
*Insert Obi-Wan meme here* Well, of course, i know him. He's me.
and uses microphone without muting*
mx blue would be like bottom tier in my clicky category lol
@@Mr4Goosey I've been that guy too. Even though they were Browns and I only type 90 WPM.
Luke picking the Zelios V2 after knowing how long he daily drove Topre makes me happy 😁
wow linus tech tips sure knows how to make an entertaining video watching people type for 20 minutes was so fun
then dont watch it?
11:46
Linus: "You gotta live alone! I'm sorry!"
Yvonne, his wife of almost 10 years: "This one's definitely more clicky and part of me really likes that."
Or: Clicky switches are more satisfying and enjoyable to use, and have the _bonus_ of making it so that your time on the home office computer is more likely to be uninterrupted.
@@Thalanox It was a joke. Personally my favorite switch of all time are the Kailh Box White switches
NSFW
That's being married.
6:06 actually you don’t have to press a linear switch all the way down, there’s just no bump
I had to to a literal double-take on that one. Surely, I thought, LTT wouldn't get such a basic thing wrong? And it's so easy to disprove by putting whoever in front of a linear keyboard and just.. I dunno, *test* it?
I think one factor they did not take into account is a reponsive factor
I mean like literally a typing test
Everyone type a quick brown fox in each kb or something
I use linear switches and the best thing about them is when you learn how to "feather-step" type on them by only pressing them down a third or a quarter of the way down. It's great!
I smash down on my linear switches.
Horrible keyboards for typing, so many accidental double key presses. Horrible for gaming for similar reasons. Threw away a keyboard with cherry reds as it pissed me off so much, went to cherry brown and not looked back.
I would've had everyone do a round-robin of all the keyboards within a category and let them score the better keyboard in each matchup between 1-3 based on how much better those switches were than on the other board. Then tally up all the points each board got.
I've used MX brown, red and blues, red and blues were horrible but absolutely loved browns from the first moment I used then, currently using a ducky one2 mini with mx browns.
Editing was a mess, but enjoyable nonetheless. Definitely needs a sequel. And where the participants actually doing the typing.
Should of said ‘and participants typing makes it equal’ in order to make it rhyme
@@rhubarbdedubarb4232 should've*. And no, he shouldn't've :P
Can you tell me the keyboard brand they used in the video please
@@i7460 the massdrop ctrl keyboard
@@JioLLLL why are you the way you are
13:37 "It just makes you feel .. like .. you're getting into the main frame"
I agree 1000%
Perfect timestamp too lmao
Hacking the gibson!
FASCINATING DATA AT THE END - Really interesting results (lightest springs for clicky and heaviest for linear). I hope to suggest 2 factors which could explain - conservation of energy (energy returned to the typist in the return stroke), and asymmetrical finger strength (fingers strong on the way down but weak on the return). We know that force applied to the spring is conserved and largely returned, however all 3 switches lose and return different amounts of energy to the typist affecting the smoothness of transition from one key to the next. Tactile switches consume some of the conserved energy emitted in the 'bump' and return less than linear. Clicky switches use most energy having both a 'click' and a 'bump'. Having a heavy spring in clicky switches would require a lot of 'return' finger effort, better to type on a light spring and float to the next key. In linear switches, there is very little loss of energy and the typist can happily manage a heavier spring. Bottoming out also consumes energy and increases return work, so a typist should adjust their typing force to the type of keyboard and spring force. Going by averages, I will in future set up clicky KBs with 45-50g, tactile with 60g and linears with 67g springs. Hope this is of some help to others. ;)
Excellent video! I didn't know what the hell I was doing when I bought my first mechanical keyboard 6 years ago. Turns out those are Blues and I like them. Then I just got MX Browns for my Mac and I think I would do that next time once my Windows Computer's keyboard starts having issues lol. It's a Corsair that's built like a tank so who knows when that'll be.
I just can't say no to the blue switches,
But I made the switch to browns and I'm very happy with it
Linus: *clicks keyboard* "You gotta live alone!"
Yvonne: "This one's more clicky and part of me likes that"
🤔
Genius editing
If I lived with Linus is want to live alone too
It's one thing to like typing on it and a whole different thing to listen to someone else grinding that shit for hours :D
@@LazyRASHO Oh believe me, I know. My roommate in freshman year of college had a keyboard with Razer green switches and it drove me nuts. Mostly because he would stay up until 2 in the morning playing League.
timestamps:
1:53 tactile switches
6:00 linear switches
10:09 clicky switches
16:08 conclusion
edit it and add all switches as subcategories
Salmanul Fares lol
I've had my Glorious GMMK with Gateron Brown switches for 5 months now and I love it. I used to have Cherry MX Brown's but was impressed really impressed by the Glorious GMMK (super solid keyboard at a decent price) and have to say I found the Gateron Brown switches to be just as good as the Cherry MX Brown.
Where do you buy switches
@@HollowfiedNaruto Either straight from the manufacturer or I go to MicroCenter
oh hell naw💀💀💀😭
They should do the test again with some good key caps. Good caps can make a huge difference also.
7:48 Luke: "I feel like typing on boobs.." ".. jeah, it feels really nice, I don't know"
WAT :'D
Everyone: mushy, smooth, clicky.
Riley: these are like oooooooo and these like eeeeeee
One thousand likes? Dafuq
tbh, that kind of information told me quite a lot about the switch
15:24
And then you have luke “it’s like typing on boobs”
Finally someone who’s doesn’t say thanks for 1000 likes and instead react with Dafuq?
I'm binge watching linus. These videos add to my happiness
I want a mechanical keyboard with the same key sound as an apple II. Any advice on what switch I need? Or maybe you have a suggestion for some keyboard model? I don't dislike the retrò-style
Me:
**Presses a key...*
Thrusters:
**Engage!*
fuel tank:
*Empty!*
Linus: "Stealthy."
Audience: "lttstore.com"
you have been trained well
Make sure you pick up the new AMD 8 core Nvme ssd
*Audience whispers: "lttstore.com"
hmm i use Razer green switches as i have a blackwidow elite but i'm considering buying an entry level enthusiast keyboard and have no idea what switches i would like best, something that retains the nice clicky feel but is more silent. Probably looking at getting the Glorious gmmk pro i just have to decide on switches.
Riley is like a child, i love it 😂
He’s just constantly playing and being silly hahah
6:04 Whaaaaat??
"To actuate a linear switch, you must push it all the way down, like a membrane key."
I cannot believe someone on Linus Tech Tips wrote that text, and no one reacted?
Linears does NOT actuate at the very bottom. The actuation point is similar to the other switch types!
They clearly should re-consider their proof-reading.
I am quite sure James wrote those.
Biggest oof I've seen on the keyboard scene. No wonder they only do 4 of these videos every year, if that.
I think they mean you need to push all the way down in the sense that there is no feedback (in the strictest definition of linear). So until you get really familiar with the switch, you’re typically going to bottom it out because the switch isn’t telling you when you’ve hit the actuation point.
@@geoken2 But the way they worded it completely destroy the fact that actuation point is different from bottom out point on linear switches.
They even said "like membrance keyboard", which makes I think they literally means what they said.
Thanh Le Ngoc membranes typically don’t need to bottom out either. If you look at force curves - there actuation point is typically before bottom out. It’s usually at the tactile point, so I really don’t understand that part of the quote.