THE MIZUNO IRON - JPX921 FORGED
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Mizuno irons are effectively 21st Century Samurai Swords.
Meant to cut through the air creating very impressive ball speeds and forgiveness.
Beautifully designed with great attention to performance.
Japanese engineering & skilled craftsmanship extraordinaire in a golf club. Lucky us!
Grouping awesome, feel awesome, distance awesome - +20 yards on over my current set. Best irons I've ever hit. Ordered mine yesterday
Great review Andy looking forward to seeing them out on the course
Definitely going to try the JPX921 and TM P770
Yes! Leap forward in sound. Your correction method was succesful 😃
Great review Andy. Tried them yesterday. Got fitted immediately and Wishons are up for sale. Amazing performance w great feel. Best club ever
Played today with Scotland's Mizuno rep and he told me he's sold 9 sets of these irons this week alone, said they are amazing.
One set are mine bud! Absolutely buzzing for them to arrive
Great review Andy, I currently play 919 Hot Metals and planning to upgrade to 921 Forged soon. You have just cemmented my beliefs. I have great loyalty and passion to Mizunos philosophy and brand.
Just got them with modus 105 stiff. Longer and more consistent than my previous T200 also on short irons with weaker lofts (long irons have the same loft). Just a precision Gap to 8 irons are made from 1025E steel (engraved on the hosel). Chromoly is only on 7 to 4 irons. (Index 13). The feel is great. the ball flight is awesome. Awesome review ! this will be a best seller.
Loved your review of these irons. I wanted to get a set of irons for the new year so Had a fitting a few weeks back and ended up with the JPX921 Forged. We went through a lot of clubs and shafts but it was very clear to see the performance of the 921 forged compared to anything else. What a beautiful looking and performing club with incredible feel👍
Keep up the great reviews 👍
My iron game was weak hitting anything lower than a 7 iron with my 25 year old clubs. With my new JPX 919 HMP's I actually look forward to hitting all of my irons. My 4 iron is easily going 220 yards plus. At some point I'll probably go with the MP-20 MMC/ HMB's so I can get a 2 and 3 iron. I love hitting the long irons now.
Impressive review Andy, Mizuno don’t mess about
Had a fitting tried loads of irons the 921 forged were amazing. Ordered waiting for them to arrive bit of a wait
Had custom fitting this week. Ended up ordering a set of JPX921 forged. Can’t wait to try them out on the golf course! I’m playing off 11.
I’m playing of 20 and I’m still getting them 😂. Awesome irons
Did you order the gap wedge too ? Curios BC I have HMB ‘s and no gap wedge with set . Wondering if u like gap wedge ? Thanks
@@jimmyp6049 nope. I did not ! Pw-4i
Just got fitted with the JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro. I was very impressed.
Have ordered a set. Can't wait to get them on course. Absolutely gorgeous to hit and a beautiful club.
Did you get the gap wedge ? Curios BC I have the HMB’s and they didn’t offer a gap wedge so may try this one .
@@jimmyp6049 I went with the T20 50° wedge and not a set wedge. Had them on course now for 3 months and they are a great set. Really enjoying them. I would probably stick with the HMBs. I almost went for them instead.
Ordered 4-PW 921F here as well. Coming from 919F/Tour combo set, can’t wait!
Were you fitted or are you just getting a standard set?
I was fitted by my custom club builder. Moi matched set off my 7iron and lots of custom stuff.
Great review Andy as usual. I ordered the JPX921 Hot Metals last week. My first set of Mizuno's, looking forward to these irons once they come in at the end of the month. Be well!
So are you satisfied?
@@C4tfor3st I like the looks and feel of the clubs but not sure they give me all the forgiveness I require.
@@daviddeck9693 me I play the JPx 825 pro forged. I'm very satisfied. I don't know if I should change for the 921... 🤔
@@daviddeck9693 did you get fitted, or just buy them yourself?
@@ryanoconnor9508 I was fitted.
Great Review Andy!
Look great ! Does this blur the difference between the 921 Forged and the 921 Hot Metal I wonder; look forward to your thoughts on the Hot Metal version?
Excellent video, looks like you were swinging it well on the day mate. Are these a contender for your bag?
Seriously considering trading in my Callaway Apex Pros for these. Thanks for giving me another reason 👍
Curios about your comments on the comparison to HMB’s . The 921 forged compared to the HMB’s are slightly bigger as per Mizuno website . Interesting that you perceived them to be smaller . Great review .
Good post, I’m currently playing jpx900 forged. would love a post com pairing JPX921 against recent models.
I had 900F and loved it. Great distance and accuracy!. sold it to good friend bc he wanted it. Then I got 919 Tours, struggled with it.. then picked up the 919 F...doing much better. However I still loved my 900F. Wish I hadn't sold it
Great review but keep in mind that 6 iron is a traditional 5 iron loft and the 8 is a traditional 7 iron loft. I’m seeing Terrific reviews so far.
To the eye, yes......but the technology in them makes them fly like the number on the club
Got fitted last week with James. Had my heart set on some others. Then these came along!! Wow. They are special. Always thought the feel thing was hype. Not at all. Absolutely blew the others out of the water.
Totally agree. Mine just arrived today. They are something else. I’m coming from Cobra Forged Tec Black, which I really enjoyed. This is next level! More consistent flight, higher launch window and Uber forgiving.
I got fitted for the JPX Forged last week... can’t wait 😊
Great intro to this vid Andy, well done. Really enjoyed it. I was expecting the forged head to be smaller than the HMB too as you stated. But looking at the chart comparisons of the various club head measurements on the Mizuno website, these two clubs are nearly identical in blade length (in fact the forged is slightly longer in the 7 iron and the sole width is also wider). Have you had chance to hold them side by side in the flesh to compare? Cheers
The forged has a thinner topline for sure to me.
HMB is far chunkier overall. Long and chubby. The 921 Forged looks far better.
I'm a 5 handicap and play the 919 Hot Metal Pros weakened by 2 degrees (7@32 degrees - same as the 919 Forged) and LOVE them. To my eye, what they've done, is take everything the learned from the Stability Frame from the 919 Hot Metal and put them in the 921 Forged - that is the Mizuno Club I would buy today - I basically think everyone from 30 handicap to Pro can play these - I would weaken the lofts by 1 degree to hit my numbers. These clubs are going to be their #1 selling club - shame they aren't also made in Left
I have a handicap of 17. Which club in the line up would you recommend I go for considering I hit my PW around 140 yards
@@neilbest5554 what is the loft of your pitching wedge and what are they strength & weaknesses in your game
@@wallstreetoneil 45 degrees PW mate. My weekends is definitely my longer irons. Very unpredictable from 6 iron down.
@@neilbest5554 I asked about the loft of your PW because 140 isn't exactly short for a PW - but the word 'around' isn't exact so I'm going to assuming you mean carry and not total distance because you really need to know your carry numbers (but you are not a short hitter) - I carry my 919 Hot Metal Pro, bent weaker to 47 degrees 133 yards, and I carry my 919 Hot Metal Pro, bent weaker to 42 degrees, 13 yards further, at 146 yards. I live in Toronto and went to TXG and came up with the following lofts and carries for what I wanted to accomplish - and that is, carry a PW to 5 iron, but spread the lofts from a very old school PW of 47 degrees to a traditional bladed 4 iron at 24 degrees, but played with a modern 5 iron - this would free up a club that I could help the top end of my bag. So my lofts are (47,42,37,32,28,24) -> (PW,9,8,7,6,5) and produces carries of (133,146,159,172,185,195) - so I spread my irons 13 yards apart, except for my last which is 10 by going with larger 5-degree loft spreads until it becomes 4 at the end - traditionally you see this being 5 from PW to 9 and then 4 for a few clubs and then 3 degrees - I am very happy with this setup - and this helps me gap to my wedges because 133 carry PW isn't too far from where I can hit my 52 and I wanted my last iron to get me very close to a 200 carry for the long Par 3 that you will see on most courses. I would think about these ideas when you construct your next set because they have been very, very helpful to me. If the loft of your PW is 45 (slightly stronger) then I will guess that the loft of your 6 iron is likely in the 27-degree area - which is the loft of a traditional 5-iron blade - and this is historically the loft that most average/good golfers can hit decently well off a tee but struggle to hit consistently off the fairway - and it is the 24 degree traditional lofted 4 iron, that they can hit 'ok' off a tee but usually not very well, and not high enough, off the fairway - if this rings a bell, you are in good company with everyone that doesn't play on the tour with very high clubhead spead - and it is this area specifically that instead of thinking of new clubs as the 1st solution to fix existing problems or desire for new things, it is this exact area of the bag, that for almost every golfer on the planet is the very 1st thing in the bag that needs to be done first - i.e. what is the best clubs of any type that you can hit with the lofts of around 27/28, 24/23 & 21/20/19 I list the above numbers with ranges as these will be determined by your gapping/carrying distances but they would be the equivilant of the traditional 5,4 and strong3 irons - these are the absolutely crutial clubs in the bag, that if you can improve, because they are the hardest to hit, offer the biggest. by miles, improvement to your game. A traditional lofted bladed 7 iron is 35or34 degrees, and almost any decently average golfer can hit this loft of club, even in a tiny blade, well enough that they could actually play blades - but with blades, that 7 iron won't always end perfectly - the 8 will but the 7 is where you know you have missed the middle. That bladed set then moves to a 31/30 degree 6 iron. The reason I mention all of this is because this information and experience where golfers go from doing well to struggling is VERY important when you think about building your set. And this brings us to many modern sets moving to 32-degree range 7 irons - where with some modern 'tech' you can now hit a 32-31 degree 7 iron as well as you could hit your 34/35 degree older 7 iron - but you can hit it 170 instead of 155 because of the modern ball and the stronger loft/tech - and that brings us to the crossover range of 28/27 degree modern 6 irons - which are really old 5 irons - and this is really where ALL of your bag building concentration should really be happening. With all of this information, I would try out the following clubs to see what you personally like: Mizuno Forged & Hot Metal combo set, new Srixon ZX7&5s combo set. I would also like to seed you with the idea of a Reverse Combo Set as something to think about during your testing - the idea being that just because a game-improvement set (Hot Metal as an example) doesn't mean you will hit the long irons better just because they have MORE perimeter weighting / larger sole - this is because when we actually hit real golfballs on real golf courses, we have to hit the ball off the real ground and not a perfect astroturf matt which is very, very deceiving with long irons - and thus the idea that sole-width being too wide can actually cause problems in real life when actually hitting real shots - we want the help that these clubs seem to offer for free but if we don't hit them that well off of fairway lies that they are exactly working are they? And this is what happened to me and it is something that Ian at TXG (internet channel) talks about all the time when actually fitting clubs - how do YOU, not ME, but YOU, when you are getting fit, sound through impact and are YOU getting along with the club? I found for ME, that I didn't like my 6&5 Hot Metal Pro irons because the soles where too thick. I didn't know this at the beginning, and it took me a while to figure it out, but I eventually order Mizuno HMB 6&5 irons and my combo set is not Hot Metal Pro PW-7 with HMB 6,5 - and I absolutely love it. The other thing I did, and this is crazy me, but I went from 120 gram S300 Dynamic Gold Steel shafts in my Hot Metal Pros to 110 gram Steel Fiber Graphite shafts in my Mizuno HBMs - these being slightly lighter helped me swing them faster and the kick point of the shafts seems to help me hit them higher - but I personally don't think there is much to that - it is more the clubs feel slightly lighter and I can hit them high and far - and the thinner soles of these 6&5 HMB I just hit far better off of fairways. I with all that said, that is why I would look at the new Srixons (ZX7, ZX5s) because of the tech, the modern lofts and the sole design that promotes efficient turf interaction. The Srixons are soft and bendable so they could very easily be bent for gapping and I would likely go PW-7 with the ZX7s and 6&5 in the ZX5s in my 47-24 lofted specs as a starting point and go from there. For YOU, not me, that 28/27 6 iron may be YOUR last iron at which point you would be looking for that 24-degree Hybrid and then 21-degree Hybrid - I go with the 24-degree iron and then the 21 Degree Hybrid. If you really want to improve, it is critical to be brutally honest about your game in this lofted range. Bring your current 24-degree club to a retail shop/club fitter and hit 10-20 into a launch monitor and then try a few 24-degree hybrids and see if you hit it better - if you do, then your last iron is that 28/27 lofted modern 6-iron, and it may be a different 6 iron (more help) than you PW-7. Hope this helps. Paul
@@wallstreetoneil Wow think you covered everything there Paul, thank you. I got my fitting last night and have gone for the hot metal pros weakened by a degree. They felt great. Can’t wait for them to arrive. Thanks for the help
Oh, why didn’t I wait .. 5 months into my new set .. they look great ..
I've got the 921 HMP 4-PW on order. Can’t wait.
So how is it, are you satisfied?
@@C4tfor3st very satisfied but only 1-round before I had to put them away for the winter. Golf season is just getting underway here so hopefully I’ll get out and play them in the next few weeks.
@@jeffcsMN hope you enjoy them. I am also a Mizuno fan. If you step by in the south east of France, maybe we will play together. And there it's nice sunny 🌞😎
Some beautiful clubs with some great results. If they do turn out that good, Mizuno will sell a bunch.
Great video well presented
Hi Andy !! Great review as always!!
How would you rank these 3 irons in order of feel and performance? PXG 0211, New P770 and JPX 921 Forged. Thank you!!
I am very interested in Andy's answer here. I have a fitting booked for early December and I'm starting to fill a bag from scratch. My heart was JPX 921 Forged and Hot Metal Pro combo, although I was recently given a gift of a PXG Driver/Fairway/Hybrid and not certain if I should be completing the set with 0311 GEN2 P/XF combo? Nothing feels like a Mizuno though!!!
Hit these today. Awesome irons. A little strong for me personally so when I order I will get then bent a little
Yes sir, I had mine bent so 4i=24°, then 27 5i, 30 6i, 34 7i, 38 8i, 42 9i, and 46 p. Prefer a traditional loft.
Nice review Andy . What shaft did you end up with
What shaft are you using? I’m a HUGE fan of Mizuno and I’m thinking of making the 921’s my 4th set of Mizunos.
Fitted for these today. They are just 🤩
I just ordered mine today. How are you liking them? What shaft did you get?
@@stumarston6812 KBS tour stiff shaft and I’m never going back. You’ve made a great purchase 😍
@@ryandeery6930 I can't wait to get them
@@stumarston6812 Enjoy. Know you will 🤩
Great presentation as usual but are they ok for the average golfer or just single figure players
Great video, better the n PXG ??
Did you notice a difference in feel going from forged chromoly 6i to forged 1025E 8i?
Great ball speeds😲
Very interested to see your numbers on the HM Pro.
Love mine!
Looks like one of the most consistent clubs you ever tested on your channel.
Never a bad set from Mizuno
How much improvement over 919F? I have 919F, but really miss my 900F.
The thing that’s worrying is only 14 yards difference between the 6 iron & 4 iron could be gaping issues
exactly. what would be the point of a 5 iron? you definitely need to get fit and also figure out the gapping for the set
amateur golfers like us don't normally hit longer irons that well.....personally I would not go below 5 iron...maybe 6 iron as the last iron with a hybrid/wood after that
Great vid Andy. Im looking at Mizunos but also Wishon 565 Forged which are pretty forgiving. These
Ok for a mid handicapper?
Steve W I’ve not tried the Wishon but I would say the Mizuno is a forgiving enough iron or the JPX 921 hot metal 👍
Any mention of how much stronger the lofts are here?
You make me wanna get these clubs they look great but not sure if get the same results
I’m a couple of weeks away from fitting. 921 Forged v MP-MMC. Anxious to see which produces the better numbers.
I’m looking at those 2 clubs myself - keep us posted
What’s the difference between the 921 tour and the MP MMC?
Wow - Mizuno are the only irons that tempt me to move away from Titleist .
I’ve had a couple of sets and they were excellent and these seem to be pretty special too.
Must give them a go... but it might prove expensive!
John Tinkler I’m leaving Titleist this year for Mizuno. Been w Titleist for 20 plus years. Defiantly a superior product in my opinion
@@stevenmianowski9280 Can’t say I blame you. I’m not at that crossroads yet - still got some mileage in my AP2’s.
Andy which shafts did you use in this test?
Andy, 921 forged or Gen 3 PXG????? What do you think
Regards
Dave
How did the smash factor compare with the previous generation? That will tell you if the ball speed has been increased by the use of chromoloy.
Everybody who has tested these irons seems to be loving them...
Just went in for a fitting thinking I was set on P770s until they had me try the JPX 921 Forged irons.
Andy are these better than the taylormade p790 ?
You should always talk about the golf shafts you use.
Andy are these better than the TaylorMade p790 ?
You said they were the best clubs you have hit. Are they as good as the PXG 0211
Hi Andy,would you say a 19 handicap player could use these forged irons?
Great content of the video but unfortunately that noise that the micro made, made me very nervous😅
Andy, great review mate, any idea of resilience of chromoly, I.e does it rust.
GDad 64 chromoly has been used for bicycle frames for many years before Mizuno used it for golf clubs. It is very strong and resilient. I reckon these clubs will outlive even young golfers, as chromoly bike frames have done. For bicycles, the chromoly is treated to make it corrosion-proof and I assume Mizuno does the same.
@@gb8327 cheers.👍
It’s only the 4-7 that have the molybdenum (moly) alloy.
These look like something a bit special, not as visually pleasing as the MP range, but performance for fun!
Beware. The 8-Gap are not chromoly. They’re 1025E. I just received my set. I feel pretty misled by this. Contacted mizuno and they said that’s the way they were designed.
Right, two great reviews but time to get off the fence before you scratch something - HMB or JPX 921 Forged?
I hit both when I got fitted, 921 forged for me.
@@jackvliet which was more forgiving and larger head
@@garywhiteman8837 head size seems extremely close, probably about the same length. Top view they're both thin but in long irons you can see more of the hmb off the back. Long irons hmb probably more forgiving.
But I think they are super close as far as who should use them and forgiveness.
The 921 forged felt better.
@@garywhiteman8837 generally they have a lot of overlap.
921hot metal pro ordered.
By modern standards these are semi-strongly lofted (31 degree 7i). I always thought Andy was a lowish spin player but back spin of 7500 with the 8i is good, especially with the peak height...that 8i will stop on a dime. My one concern would be, based on Andy's numbers only, that there is a lack of consistency of spin between clubs. So the 4i spin of 4000 rpm is excellent, 8i spin of 7500 rpm was also excellent but 6i spin of under 5000 rpm looks odd.
I am not a big fan of getting too excited about spin numbers, height and descent angles are just as important but what I do like to see is a consistency across the entire set in terms of progression of spin and distance.
More testing needed!
Probably strike 👍 also not consistent enough to hit the numbers your suggesting he's a handicap golfer
Idk i always thought Andy was a bit highish spin wise. Also as Pete noted there’s probably some strike variance in there. I would imagine as a fader of the ball his numbers can jump around a bit if loses one a little high and right but he did mention he hit a few that went left and probably had a little draw killing the spin
anything Mizuno
Would it be possible to come up to foregolf and try them Andy?
Yes of course Richard, if you ring and ask for Lewis he will help you out
just got fitted for these 1 degree weeker and aerotech steel fibre stiff shafts...I was hitting these higher further with more spin than my so called game improvement irons with stronger lofts... dont get fooled thinking these will be hard to hit because they are far from it
If you were buying Irons this year what 3 irons would you try? Mizuno JPX921, and, and.......
Srixon ZX5 and Miura TC 201
(Just my unsolicited two cents haha)
I put my order in for Santa to bring mines !
Andy, great vlog and interesting reactions across TH-cam regarding these irons, must just say though that you know when you have made it in life when your assistant dries your balls🤣😭😂😂
They are they are the best irons.
Mr. A.G.- Seeing as you're hitting an 8 iron over 180 yards, you should change the name of your site to the Above Average Golfer!
I think he switched to the 6i that was over 180
Sorry the kid in me just couldn't stop laughing after the courteous comment:...'I really appreciate you cleaning my balls'.
Hate to poo poo things but 8i 154 6i 184 4i should be 214 and its just over 200 off a surface way more forgiving than grass. Not gapped its concertinering as long irons only work with much more speed. Need no more than 5i then hybrids.
This is more a criticism of Miz than you Andy as people keep hitting it further but dont get any better at golf.
Be good for someone to address this topic.
Cheers Neil.
I don't think mizuno makes a bad iron
Andy. Now that you have your own Trackman, it’s time to revisit the JPX 921 line.
I’m having a hard time deciding between the Hot Metal and Forged. More detailed information about mishits would be nice 👍
How much am I giving up between the two?
There is no chromoly in the 8 iron!
Unfortunately making a 7 iron with 31° loft has devalued these clubs for me.
If you want traditional lofts look at the jpx921 tour or mp20 plenty of options
David White I agree, but I have to try them and see for myself
You can have the lofts weakened very easily, that is what I did.