Ball Speed Alert! Mizuno JPX921 Forged Iron
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I review the new Mizuno JPX921 Forged Iron that is part of the JPX921 Iron lineup which includes JPX921 Tour Iron & JPX921 Hot Metal Iron. In this video I focus on the Forged model putting it through its paces and provide TrackMan numbers on its performance.
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This is why I keep coming back. not only honest reviews but you listen to the viewer. thank you for adding land angle!
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Thanks, good review. Keep up the good work. I just got these and they feel fantastic.
Thank you MN. This is the iron of the year IMO
Great review love to see the forgiveness with the off centre strikes. Can't wait for the hot metal pro review
Love the look of this, would love to see you hit a few shots on the course with it!
The strike sound is fantastic. I hit these and the Hot Metals a few days ago and they are both great clubs.
Definitely on my radar. Lots to choose from.
You are correct sir. I was just fitted for these same clubs on Friday. Club head speed on my 7i was 94mph.
Great channel. I think these are the ones 🤩
Great review as usual! Really hope you do the 921 Tour vs MP20 MMC!
MN is the best, humble guy that speaks straight to the point. Very reliable reviewer. Thanks for being awesome MN!
Just ordered me a set 2 weak. The tour was spinning way too much and the misses were detrimental. These were perfect can’t wait!
Michael your strike was a little off today because every other test I saw the spin was in the 6k. Love this line of JPX 921. If I can get the distance from them they will be my next set. If not I'll have to go to the hot metal or pro. Thanks for the review.
Mike.... I see reviews that talk about the static lofts of irons but never see the dynamic-delivered lofts when testing the clubs. The 31 degree static loft on the JPX 921 7 IRON I would guess is 27 or less at impact for you and better players. This is what matters because many recreational golfer that flip the club at impact actually add loft and that 31 degrees becomes 35 or more.
Good video Michael. Lovely looking clubs.Just ordered a new set but have to wait for 6 weeks until delivery. Cheers mate.
I ordered mine January 15 and supposedly they shipped today, fingers crossed!
Tried P790's, Callaway, Titelist T,, etc series etc. Nothing came close for looks, feel, sound , and most important accuracy. Got fitted and had mine for a while now with Recoil ESX F2 shafts. I'm 68 years old, slower swing speed, been working on my game. Now a 17 handicap. Upgraded from TM Rsi1's. Slots started coming out so need replacing. Absolutely love the 921 Forged. Confidence inspiring, beautiful feel and accurate. Don't care about distance. I hit what I hit but, Ball flight is lovely and I'm hitting more greens which is mostly what I care about.
Great review Michael. Getting ready to get fit for these but could you tell me if you’ve noticed any drop off in feel from 919 Forged to 921 Forged based on the new Chromoly metal used.
Just got mine, used for 4 rounds. One bad shot with them thinning a 5 iron out the first cut. These are immense clubs. Definitely worth the cash and the fitting experience. My tip - get fitted at a facility with a range so you can see the flight and the data. Don't just smash it in to a screen.
@@Paul-ip4nr So so sorry I never responded! Only just caught your comment cleaning out my email inbox! Hope you got the clubs brother! Mine took about 2 months I think. How are you going with them if they are with you at last? Worth the wait?
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Got my set yesterday, they're stunning. Something special
Did you get fitted ?
10 days into my 5-PW set. Yes, I was fitted. KBS Tour 90 S shafts. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE. Distance, feel -- they jump off the face. Glad I waited.
@@inova11901 got my fitting next month. Can’t wait
Mike you should try to check out the Honma TW X irons. I bet you they out perform these with way more spin! I love them!
I'm considering moving out of my Cleveland CBX irons and these are definitely on my short list.
Did you end up changing to the Mizuno’s? I have the Cleveland UHX launchers and am considering a move to either these JPX 921 forged or the TM P790’s.
@@kjm0227 I got set of Srixon ZX7s actually. Absolutely love them
Had a fitting a few weeks back and ended up with the JPX921 Forged. We went through a lot of clubs and shafts but it was very clear to see the performance of the 921 forged compared to anything else. What a beautiful looking and performing club with incredible feel👍
Me too what shafts did they fit you with ? I got pro modus nippon stiff
@@spudny2650 got fitted for the Dynamic Gold 105 S300. Was very clear to see the performance difference for me. Very happy with them
@@justanaveragejoe8910 nice I waiting for mine to turn up now …. Can’t wait !!
@@spudny2650 worth the wait, I was 11 weeks waiting as there was a back order on the shafts but they really are worth the wait, enjoy👍
I like the head shape of my Apex, this looks longer, similar to P790?. It would be good to see the siloutes as comparison. Thanks for mentioning availability for lefties as we do watch theses vids..😉
If golf club companies weren’t allowed a marketing budget, I think almost every golfer would choose Mizuno after a fitting and just from looking at them. These are possibly the best looking irons ever with performance to match.
Have you ever seen the Wilson Staff Model Blade's in real life? Pure poetry in steel.
Really enjoy these 6 months after buy still happy. Hot face but good enough feel for me
1.42 smash is pretty crazy for a non hollow 31* lofted iron. Might have to go 1 or 2 weak on these to gap well with rest of the set.
Can you explain this to me like I’m five
Would love to see a comparison of 921 forged & cobra king tour mim
I would love to see the comparison of the 921 forged vs mp20
Hi Michael,
How would you compare these to the Wilson D7 Forged irons? Thanks
The average smash factor with a 7 iron is 1.33 on the PGA. 1.42 is for a 5 iron.
And 127 mph is the ball speed average for a 6 iron (120 mph for a 7 iron).
Quite impressive !
I ordered these irons! Excited to get them in about a month!
I ordered these as well (7/12). My fitter said to expect 6-8 weeks. Seems that others on the Mizuno forums have been waiting even longer. Hope that corrects itself!
@@deerhunt799 he told me 6 weeks. Thanks
What do you refer for mid handicap player to used nice view sir michael!
I was one of the lucky firsts to receive the 921 Forged irons after pre-ordering them back in 2020. Been playing them ever since. It’s a solid iron, but the difference in feel between the Chromoly slotted 4-7 irons and the 1025E short irons is pretty drastic. The Chromoly irons feel springier and faster but there’s really not much feel on a flushed shot. The short irons, on the other hand, feel more marshmallowy and buttery on flushed shots. I do have some trouble getting my 4 iron trajectory up where I want it. My ball flight tends to be low with it, regardless. All in all, I am perfectly content with them. The 923 Forged definitely look nicer aesthetically, but it’s not really worth spending the money to get virtually the same performance.
Could you do a comparison against the Wilson D7 Forged?
I bought these today, l cant wait to get them..!
Love these too. Ping i210’s also on my list to compare
@@stephendibari5010 they arrived yesterday, the feel from these irons is amazing, I got to the range today, lofts bit as strong as my current irons, which is fine, l just need to get the lie adjusted, very happy tho..!
@@brendantorrance3539 awesome 👏
Thx
I just started playing golf last yr. Picked up a used 7 iron from golf town, tried it. Smashed it dead straight for 175 yrds three out of 5 times, the other two one was a bit fade on 155 and the other 165 a hook. This thing just smashes the f out of factor
What's your thought on these compared to the new srixon then??
These look like there going a little further. No Clicking then?
Just ordered my Forged set (hoping the backlog doesn't affect my delivery time too much!). Had them fitted at a demo day and they felt fantastic.
Hope you enjoy it!
James Did you get them yet?
@@jbeebs1 Not as yet. It's been 10 working days but to be fair the pro i ordered them through did say that there is a massive backlog at the EU factory (in Scotland?) due to the pandemic and that we should expect them to take 15+ working days. I am hopeful that i'll hear some progress at the end of this week into next. Fingers crossed!
Had a Mizuno fit 2 wks ago and ordered 5-9 forged PW & Gap Tour in KBS X soft stepped in PVD finish
Golf porn 👌
Sorry forgot to say nice review by the way and as my fitter said best thing for me ball speed across the face good consistent
nice!
Need to compare these to my Titleist T-200’s (2019) version. Not liking my off center hits. They’re LOUD and Clunky. On center they feel like butter with their forged face.
Yes, just ordered them. But have to wait until mid-September :-(
Unfortunately that’s the way of the world at the moment.
It's an absolute shame that Mizuno didn't make a full lefty set. I was super hyped looking to move from my 900 forged to these. Hopefully there's enough demand and they come out with a lefty set later. Fingers crossed
Chuck, JPX SEL, giving you the tour (for the first time) from 6-GW, Forged in the #5 and #4
Owen Davies that would be great if I were looking to play bladed clubs. I’m a 15 handicap and the forgiveness, distance and shot height that the non tour models gives is what attracted me to the 900 forged. I also play a 4 and 5 hybrid so having the long iron forged option doesn’t help either. Just disappointing to see Mizuno abandon the mid handicap lefty market.
@@damigetsez they have made the tour a little more forgiving in this version. I use the MP SEL set blades from 5-w and strike them fine. Current handicap is 10. Don't be scared of a less forgiving club might actually make you a better player
Owen Davies I appreciate the suggestion, but my point is the disappointment in Mizuno to stop making a lefty set of a line that for the last 3 iterations (850 - 919) has had a lefty set. It’s great that their lefty offering now includes the tour model, but it’s sad to see that it was at the expense of a model line that they claim to be a catch all for a large span of golfers. If I were to be forced to play something a little less forgiving I would probably play the taylormade P760 over the tours.
This is more like it. This is the advancement of manufacturing and material progression. Unlike that TaylorMade mob, splashing a flashy aesthetic. 😋
Good stuff!
921 JPX Tour vs mp20 mmc review?
Possibly!
Hi Michael, would you say these are a good option for a mid to slightly higher handicap golfer dependent on ability? Cheers
MN what’s in your bag and are your irons standard length and lie?
"don't watch this video, you'll want to buy these clubs..."
"don't watch this video, you'll want to buy these clubs..."
"don't watch this video, you'll want to buy these clubs..."
[watches video]
[calls Mizuno with credit card number at the 1:48 mark of the video]
Haha
The little man on your shoulder almost always wins! 😁
@@yanksrule311 I watched this video, and I bought this club.
Can you test these against the Srixon ZX5?
Beautiful looking club but I'm probably not good enough for them so will probably be fitted for the HM version but would love a set of these
Do yourself a favor and just go with the forged. You will adjust to them
If u don’t mind me askin what’s your handicap?
@@drx9701 20
Is their much of a difference between jpx 921 hot metal pro & the 921 forged? I’m looking for all the help I can get without sacrificing too much
hey Michael, would these be little more longer and forgiving than my i210 gamers or do I need to go to HM Pros? Need a little of both. ;0)
Are they any different to the 919 ? 🤔
I just got fitted using Trackman, indoors, and ended up with these irons. My swing speed, ball speed and smash factor are very very close to these #'s, but my spin was higher. These 7 iron yardage numbers are about 10 yards further than my 6 iron yardage numbers. Looks like he was using a taylor made ball. I was using Pro V1's. Could the ball or the fact this is outdoors account for these disparity in distances?
Shaft that promotes more spin?
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More distance than I expected, perhaps due to the lower than expected back spin. Wondering how long you will hit the Hot Metal now!
Chester I tested the Hot metal yesterday. 7 iron was carrying 170 yards
Any sign of a review of the 923 forged???
I think I have found my next irons coming from the 850’s !
Did you get them? How are they?
@@cinepost yes I did ! They are lovely !
Currently gaming JPX900 Hot Metals and want to move to something less clunky - was thinking MP20-HMB’s then these came along. How would you compare the 2 and what are the pros/cons of each?
that could be a video in itself.....
Michael Newton Golf go for it man!! You’re guaranteed at least one view (me!) 😁
And me 👍
@@GomiDK and moi
Nice Michael! Yes please compare them: I need to finish my set but don’t know what Gap-8 will be. 5-7 are MP-20 HMB and love them. Like the current i210’s but am wanting all Mizuno irons for feel and a little forgiveness.
Very curious to hear which you preferred, the m20 Mmc or the 921 forged?
MMC for me, preferred the look and control aspect
I play these 921 Forged for the 5-6-7 irons (and I play Apex MB for PW-9-8 irons) all on Aerotech SteelFiber i95 shafts
Hi Michael, I really love the look of these irons but my goodness how are you hitting a 7 iron 180- 190 yrds.
Lofts. It's effectively a 6 iron
Look at his club head speed of about 90mph. Most amateurs do that with their driver which is much longer.
Quick question Michael
The previous model had a boron metal which for me personally felt like hitting a hard golf ball. I stuck with them for over a year but really disliked the feel from them. Are these new models any different in your view? Great clip as usual
Mike are these a worthwhile upgrade from the 2016 ez forged?
Yes 🙌
Did you realize that the 8 iron thru the PW are not forged from the chromolly? Only the 7-4 iron. I purchased without knowing this. The distances fall off in the 1025 carbon. Very disappointing. I am returning them.
Lol by how much are your distances falling off
Your ball speeds were very consistent but flights were not - what was the shaft they sent you? I do wish they would stop increasing the lofts - I think a 32/33 modern 7 iron loft is where they absolutely should stop - for simply gapping reasons alone. My modern desired spec, and what I've bent my clubs to is (PW,9,8,7,6,5,4) -> (47,42,37,32,28,24,21) - it just works and there is no reason for anything stronger - it brings you back to a 47 degree PW, gives you 2/3 stronger mid irons and basically converts your 5 iron into an old bladed 4 iron loft.
My friends have clubs with 27 degree 7 irons 😂😂 no matter what number is written on the bottom a 27 degree iron is difficult to hit and won’t help them
I've always been traditional lofts but what mizuno have done works with the decent angle...I bet these will be one of there best sellers
@@TheMadstrad57 I have the Mizuno 919 Hot Metal Pros, bent weaker to the lofts I stated above, and they work even better - and they also properly gap from my weakened 47 PW into 'normal' wedges. A 32 degree 7 iron, which is 3 degrees stronger than a traditional 35-degree blade, when you add a hot face and a little less spin, already gets you into old 5 iron distances - so what's the point when you still need to have clubs from 135 and in?
Paul. I also have the 919 hot natal pros. I was seriously thinking of doing the same thing that you have done by making my irons weaker. I have a pretty low ball flight and I have alway thought about tweaking the loft on them. Don’t really care about getting extra distance out of them , but more for a higher ball flight and stopping power with that angle coming into the green. What do you think?
@@joegarza1835 I'm fortunate that I live in Toronto very close to the TXG guys and went there for a gapping session with my old CF-16s (which we bent weaker) and then again with the 919 Hot Metal Pros - gain weaker - and they work amazingly well. I honestly would take my loft spec as a starting point and see how you like it - I spent a lot of time figuring it out and it just works. (PW,9,8,7,6,5) ->(47,42,37,32,28,24) which translates into carries for me of (133,146,159,172,185,197) with a Mizuno Tour B X ball - I also gapped them, for interest, with the Titleist AVX and pretty much every club is 3to5 yards longer with the AVX and has 500 less spin. Why I like my gapping is it starts the short end of the bag at the oldest PW Blade Spec of 47 degrees (what Tiger uses) and then it also gives the old 9 iron Spec of 42 degrees, what follows is a stretching of the 8,7,6,5 by increments to end with a 24 degree 5 iron, which is the traditional loft of a 4 iron blade - thus by doing all of the above, I have freed up and created a club that I can add to the bag - and without hesitation, this has absolutely improved my ability to score on the course. I get my 3 desired wedges (52,57,62) - my 52 is my 118-122 club, which I can also back off and play a 90&80 % short with, plus use it for chipping around the green, and I get my 56, bent to 57, which maxes at 105 and can back it down to 80, but I also heavily use around the green for pitching the ball in that difficult 50to25 range, I use the 62 if it's a perfect 75 yard fairway shot or for short-sided shots when necessary. The real benefit of stretching the lofts is I get another hybrid (a 21 and a 16). The 21 is a Taylormade GapR HIgh #4 22 that I play open to 21, and had TXG fit a 110 gram X Stellfiber i110 shaft into that plays 39.5" length (2/3 iron length) than I can fade or draw high into greens from 185 to 210 - I absolutely love this club. The 16 hybrid is a #2 Mizuno 2020CLK with a 94 gram Tensei White TX flex - I use it as both a driving iron as the flight is lower (shaft also 1/2" shorter than spec and plays 40.5" - it's my 220-225 carry club - the CLK2020 is very good low in the face when hitting of tight fairways - the TX Flex really keeps the head in control so it is excellent as a tee club on those tight Par 4s also. Then I'm 14.5 3wood and Driver. After a lot of experimentation and trying to really make the long end of my bag as good as possible, I replaced the DG 120gram S300 shaft in my 5 iron with a lighter Steelfiber i110CW shaft - it just gives me a bit more clubhead speed being lighter - and when I want to go for it, I can extend the carry from my 195-197 'range' to 202-205'ish. For me, making the move from being a 9-11 handicap down to 4-6 where I am now, it was 100% working on my chipping and pitching, but it was also making big improvements in my ability to hit those 175-225 shots - and that is what the Hot Metals Pros and Hybrids, with the right shafts, have allowed me to do.
Get a set of strong lofted irons and suddenly you need to replace all your wedges 🤦♂️ all fine and well hitting 7 irons 190 but what happens when you hit your PW 150 yet your next wedge only goes 125.
Get each irons bent 1 or 2 degrees up until your wedges so they all gap out with between 12 to 15 yards gaps, all depends how far you hit it to determine the equal gaps. But a fitter can adjust the forged clubs easily to achieve perfect gapping
This is why the offer a gap wedge
I would ignore the distances in the video. The average golfer doesn't swing at 90mph and therefore won't carry 190 yards. I would go and test them for realistic distances. Great review otherwise 👍🏼
Forged or p770?
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If this club is more forgiving and flights farther than the hmb, why isn't this offered with a 3 iron while the hmb has a 3 iron?
I love the look of these irons but have heard a rumour they are only Chromoly in 4-7, 8-G being 1025?
yes that is true. it is mentioned on their website.
@@rsicho Thanks I found it, I wonder how that effects distance gaping between the 7 and 8 irons. Not a problem to me as I'm fortunate to know a quality fitter who can make the necessary gaping adjustments.
I don't need to hit my 7 iron those kinds of distances. OMG the gaps from SW - GW - PW ----- 7 iron 190 yard carry. Not needed imo.
Yep, folk will buy them then find they have a 30 yard gap when they get down to their wedges.
Probably go ahead and buy the 8 and 9 iron
Chrome Molly, not chromally
You're not aware that people from other countries pronounce some words differently than Americans?
@@jasonmitchell7550 I am now
@@jasonmitchell7550 I don't mind how people pronounce it. The point was, it's two words not one. Thank you
Beware. The 8-Gap are not chromoly. They’re 1025E. I just received my set. I feel pretty misled by this. Contacted mizuno and they said that’s the way they were designed.
it is mentioned on their website...
@@rsicho it was only added after the fact. It wasn’t up during the pre-order phase. My guess is a lot of people reached out to them confused and feeling misled.
How are finding the distance gaping between 7 and 8? I'm pleased I picked up your comment as I also wasn't aware and naturally don't want a 20 yard gap between clubs at the business end of the bag.
@@leeshaw3733 I haven’t seen an issue with gapping. I’ve been getting about 175 out of the 7 iron and maybe 165 or so out of the 8. That was my first worry with the difference in material, but it hasn’t been an issue.
@@rburda6 Good news, good numbers thanks.
Something doesn't look right here. Even on a toe shot you had a smash of 1.43. PGA tour average with a 7-iron is 1.33 according to trackman. Your club speed is same as PGA, but your ballspeed is 8MPH higher even on a toe strike. Just saying....
Chromoly?
Unfortunate that mizuno can't fully support us lefties like Callaway does!
I think they stamped the wrong number on the head... that thing is absurd.
For gods sake stop saying SORT OF ! Totally distracting.....
Not totally distracting, just sort of...