🎩Join The Discord! discord.gg/EYQmYejx7U There's been a lot of random numbers thrown around for this page file, so I figured a dedicated short piece on what was stated by BSG in a bug report would help clear the air along with an explanation of *why* they recommended it (and to who). If it helped, please hit the usual buttons, and thanks for watching :D
@@AquillionV1 Make sure you enable Bot limits in dounts if you are crashing. Otherwise itll just keep spawning them across the map from you and if you stay long in a raid you can have like 15 in a compund you never even visit in a rais. And they eat up a lot of memory
@@imgoodaswell9558 If its assigned to a hard disk; simply find out the letter of that drive that is the hard disk. Then, disable paging files on that drive and enable them on your SSD.
Already thrown this fix myself for the last 3 years XD you're a lil late fella but it's good that people are sharing this around now (i did comment on a previous video about this of yours)
I know its been circulating around but I wanted to put my foot in with the knowledge that I know came from BSG directly. Didn't want the telephone line of constant tweaking to distort the message; yknow
when my PC was shit, my ram would run out and streets of tarkov would start dipping into my C drive- and then i would get a warning that my C drive was full when i played tarkov too long on streets. Optimize your fuckin game dude!
LOL- they're working on it though, man. Once they get the tools in their hands from Unity 2023 I think bigger changes to performance will be coming; its just going to take time.
@@klemintime1452 thats the type of gas lighting that keeps me going. except unity 2023 was promised exactly 1 year ago, and when asked about it now- nikita groans over how difficult it is. feels like hes never going to fix spaghetti, rely on quantum computing to do the work for him
After the last few recent updates, my fps improved massively and seems like they fixed a lot of memory leaks that caused my ram to overflow so the game stuttered especially when moving (loading meshes over few bits of MB free of ram caused massive fps drops). Also I don't need to close and reopen EFT after every raid!
@@mrcydesign pretty sure that has nothing to do with RAM allocation but that definitely reduced the amount of work for the servers to run efficiently! (wouldn't affect client fps)
Slowly but surely. Keep in mind a lot of the "cleanup" will likely happen as we get closer to (or even past) 1.0, especially since we're still waiting on Unity 2023. BSG does the optimization by hand and thus they need the right tools for the job first.
@@klemintime1452 maybe they need the right engineers, but who am I to judge. I'm currently studying software engineering in college maybe one day I will help them get code more efficient, I truly love this game and it was way ahead it's time when it first released. Such ambitious projects must not be forgotten!!!
I have shit performance especially on the bigger maps loading in especially when its the first to third time since ive started the game, i have most of my settings on low off or normal except for textures which i keep on normal
Let's say the game is installed on my m.2 and I want to page file... would it be better to page file on that same m.2 or use one of my SSDs even though m.2's are technically better?
I would like to know the same, I had horrible stutters as soon as I turn textures to high even tho I got 16gb of ram and 8gb vram. I could not load in to some of the bigger maps. I have now set manually 2 page files 25gb min and 32gb max on both system SSD and game nvme. Finally a smooth game.
I have 64gb of memory and here recently Streets and Reserve are nearly unplayable with micro stutters while playing pmc. This problem disappears while playing as a Scav. 🤷🏼♂️
And the paging file is set correctly? Weird. I've seen a couple of those stutters on my new system, but I'll need some more playtime to figure out what's up.
Great video addressing the page file subject, i completely agree also. Its a setting that if correctly managed, help with smoothness and stability, resulting in less stutters. The only question that remains for me is... ¿for those of us that only have 1 main ssd, or 1ssd and one hdd? ¿where should the page file be allocated? For me i just put it in the main ssd, wich is where the game is installed and where the SO is installed. Wich is obiously not ideal, since a lot of data transfer and read is occuring at the same time, probably bottlenecking my poor sata ssd haha. ¿Would it be better to have the page file on the hdd or the game on the hdd what do you think? For me personally i have 1 sata ssd 480gb for the so and some games, and a spining slow thing ahaha for the rest.
@@klemintime1452 Thanks for the replay man. So im already getting the best of my current hardware then. The next step would be to upgrade the pc. I may join the discord and ask there for what kind of cpu mb ram combo should i get for my next pc. For now i have to use what i have hehe.
I have 2 ssd's (16g/16g) they are pretty much the same one is for OS and programs the second one is for games only. So should i install the paging file to my OS ssd? And if yes what numbers should i put there. sorry for my english.
At what resolution are you playing on? At 1080p I can’t stand TAA, not in Tarkov, and not in most games to be honest. I only use FXAA or no anti aliasing at all instead of having to use the blurry mess that is TAA. That is personal preference, of course. I don’t mind the way the game looks with FXAA, as a matter of fact, I find it to make spotting people way easier.
@@kadoamg4143 try with mrcydesign said. I personally run TAA high with 85 Luma and 55 Adaptive in PostFX, but your milage may very depending on what resolution you're playing on.
@@klemintime1452 yeah ymmv but I currently only have a 1080p monitor so I run sharpness at 0.9 and adaptive sharpen at 55, I don't use luma sharpen, and with these setting it's not blurry for me basically at all
I have a 5700x 6750 xt and 32gb 3200 ram, while playing my ram usage is 14.9gb on woods, is this normal? Some people said it usually go like 22, also my cpu is always like 30% tops and gpu in the 90s%. I play 1440p medium settings with frame generation, fps is usually on the 150 but O have SO MUCH FPS DROPS it makes me crazy, going to try this tomorrow. If it doesnt work im going to start thinking it could be something related to bad SA (Brazil) servers
I have that game but haven't tested this in it myself. Every ~3 months I log on, see the fps is absolute shite, and get back off lol. Do love that game and wish it ran better, though.
Not really related with paging files but I have a laptop with r9 7940hs, 4070 and 16 gigs of ddr5 ram. I have checked that my cpu is not thermal throttling and i have +80 fpa in all the other maps but in streets, my fps drops below 60-50 and stutters from time to time and using scopes also causes instant 15 fps loss. I know the dual channeling and some stuff are different in ddr5 rams but do you think upgrading to 32gb can fix that ? (My ingame settings are low and as performance oriented as possible) i dont use lasso but i use intelligent ram cleaner.
Yes I do believe ram would help I had the same issue with 32 gb of ram and a 1660 Ti, but an intel i7 6700 and would get scope in fps drop. So for me it was just the cpu holding me back. I think in your case it’s the ram.
HI Klemintime I'm going to try that setting because streets doesn't run too well in my PC I have a Rtx 2060 6Gb, and sometimes I get stutters, so might it's cause by the memory leak, I have 32 Gb of ram and a Ryzen 5 5600, most of the time runs for me like 40-60 fps, I'm getting close to the quest for unclocking the spear so I need stability in my matches, you think this tweak might help me?
*Maybe*; but if the paging file is already off of any HDDs you likely wont see any improvement. Again; its mainly to help with stability and to prevent crashes and only nets performance boosts when the paging file is stuck on slower drives.
@@klemintime1452 I'm testing it rn and I have to say It's way more stable, sometimes I have 60-80 when streets have low activity, and high pvp with people I'm getting 50-60 fps, I have 3 SSD's, one nvme and two normals SSD's, I'm not getting those high stutters and It's more confortable the pvp, most of the time I was running 45-50 fps low, so thank you so much for showing us this tweak.
Im sorry so that means with the setting you ran for the test it was using 32gb of physical memory (8gb of vram + 24 GB RAM) and on top of that 89% 54 gb of virtual memory? Or am i reading the results a bit wrong?
No worries; I should've clarified! My understanding is that Virtual memory contains both the RAM and the paging file, but NOT the VRAM (its monitored separately in the GPU tab of HWinfo). So that right there was 32GB of RAM + 22 GB of Paging File Allocation at high textures and 1440p resolution. Good question!
@@klemintime1452 thank you for the clarification! But still that is insane. I have a 4090 and 64 GB of RAM so I shouldn't really have to worry but I still never realized the amount of active RAM that this game uses. Very good info and thanks for the videos!
@@WesiteTheTestie That's just the *allocation* though, not the actual usage. Its like the amount of seats booked in a theatre, *not* the amount of people who actually show up. Still, its absurd lol
I did this and now my game gets stuck on “creating loot pools 100%” and when it does load in I disconnect. I tired to reset this process but I still can’t play please help!
What did you set the custom page file to? In the meantime while waiting for that response, try verifying the game files. It should be pathing correctly to it, but something's not adding up there. If you want to, join my discord and post a screenshot of what you did in the help-forum. We can take a closer look there too.
🎩Join The Discord! discord.gg/EYQmYejx7U
There's been a lot of random numbers thrown around for this page file, so I figured a dedicated short piece on what was stated by BSG in a bug report would help clear the air along with an explanation of *why* they recommended it (and to who). If it helped, please hit the usual buttons, and thanks for watching :D
I never had an issue with normal Tarkov, but afet switching to SPT/Fika my god was this a life saver
Gods I hope this works. My SPT/Fike has crashed several times the past few days cause of "failure to write memory" or some such.
@@AquillionV1 Make sure you enable Bot limits in dounts if you are crashing. Otherwise itll just keep spawning them across the map from you and if you stay long in a raid you can have like 15 in a compund you never even visit in a rais. And they eat up a lot of memory
I had micro stuttering and I figured that I had virtual memory assigned in my hard disk, then changed it to the ssd and now it goes smooth.
I have this. I guess I should google it or do you have a link handy?
@@imgoodaswell9558 If its assigned to a hard disk; simply find out the letter of that drive that is the hard disk. Then, disable paging files on that drive and enable them on your SSD.
I just have one question why u have HDD?
@@shadefear more space
@@ignafigueira but why HDD? It's slow af if u use a ssd instead actally u can run stuff from it....
I love your dead pan “G_d d_mnit” that was a “literally me” moment.
I've cut out several of those in the past because of how candidly I said it but decided to leave this one in lol
@@klemintime1452 You’re a mensch for your videos though, so we can concede a GD here and there. Appreciate your dedication, sir 🫡
Klem I love you, my game runs like a dream now, I didn't have any crashing problems, but my game is so smooth now and I dont stutter anymore :)
Awesome, glad to hear it! Was it that the paging file was on an HDD or on the drive Tarkov was installed in?
@@klemintime1452 had a paging file already on my os ssd, but it was 10000 and not 20480
@@KaitoFS ahh okay- that'll do it lol
Already thrown this fix myself for the last 3 years XD you're a lil late fella but it's good that people are sharing this around now (i did comment on a previous video about this of yours)
What a weird way to talk yourself up when no one asked
@@yt.ceebigs dood clearly lacks social skills....
I know its been circulating around but I wanted to put my foot in with the knowledge that I know came from BSG directly. Didn't want the telephone line of constant tweaking to distort the message; yknow
Great Video!!
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The correct, and recommended, way to input values is in multiples of binary, 1gb = 1024.
Its also 1.5x as minimum and 2x as max.
Thank you though.
I know; I was attempting to stay with BSG's recommended values as much as possible. I wanted people to know what they thought at that time.
when my PC was shit, my ram would run out and streets of tarkov would start dipping into my C drive- and then i would get a warning that my C drive was full when i played tarkov too long on streets.
Optimize your fuckin game dude!
LOL- they're working on it though, man. Once they get the tools in their hands from Unity 2023 I think bigger changes to performance will be coming; its just going to take time.
@@klemintime1452 thats the type of gas lighting that keeps me going. except unity 2023 was promised exactly 1 year ago, and when asked about it now- nikita groans over how difficult it is. feels like hes never going to fix spaghetti, rely on quantum computing to do the work for him
After the last few recent updates, my fps improved massively and seems like they fixed a lot of memory leaks that caused my ram to overflow so the game stuttered especially when moving (loading meshes over few bits of MB free of ram caused massive fps drops). Also I don't need to close and reopen EFT after every raid!
Yeah, performance seems to degrade less than it used to before. Part of it might be the AI spawning algorithm that they changed.
@@mrcydesign pretty sure that has nothing to do with RAM allocation but that definitely reduced the amount of work for the servers to run efficiently! (wouldn't affect client fps)
Slowly but surely. Keep in mind a lot of the "cleanup" will likely happen as we get closer to (or even past) 1.0, especially since we're still waiting on Unity 2023. BSG does the optimization by hand and thus they need the right tools for the job first.
@@klemintime1452 maybe they need the right engineers, but who am I to judge. I'm currently studying software engineering in college maybe one day I will help them get code more efficient, I truly love this game and it was way ahead it's time when it first released. Such ambitious projects must not be forgotten!!!
I have shit performance especially on the bigger maps loading in especially when its the first to third time since ive started the game, i have most of my settings on low off or normal except for textures which i keep on normal
Let's say the game is installed on my m.2 and I want to page file... would it be better to page file on that same m.2 or use one of my SSDs even though m.2's are technically better?
I would like to know the same, I had horrible stutters as soon as I turn textures to high even tho I got 16gb of ram and 8gb vram. I could not load in to some of the bigger maps. I have now set manually 2 page files 25gb min and 32gb max on both system SSD and game nvme. Finally a smooth game.
@@FreakySoul90 I'm doing this for Gray Zone fuck Tarkov, never supporting that game again!
@@alper9418 you can do what ever you like.
I have 64gb of memory and here recently Streets and Reserve are nearly unplayable with micro stutters while playing pmc. This problem disappears while playing as a Scav. 🤷🏼♂️
And the paging file is set correctly? Weird. I've seen a couple of those stutters on my new system, but I'll need some more playtime to figure out what's up.
Great video addressing the page file subject, i completely agree also. Its a setting that if correctly managed, help with smoothness and stability, resulting in less stutters. The only question that remains for me is... ¿for those of us that only have 1 main ssd, or 1ssd and one hdd? ¿where should the page file be allocated? For me i just put it in the main ssd, wich is where the game is installed and where the SO is installed. Wich is obiously not ideal, since a lot of data transfer and read is occuring at the same time, probably bottlenecking my poor sata ssd haha. ¿Would it be better to have the page file on the hdd or the game on the hdd what do you think? For me personally i have 1 sata ssd 480gb for the so and some games, and a spining slow thing ahaha for the rest.
It would be ideal for both the game and the paging file to be on the SSD- using the HDD for either will result in massive issues for performance.
@@klemintime1452 Thanks for the replay man. So im already getting the best of my current hardware then. The next step would be to upgrade the pc. I may join the discord and ask there for what kind of cpu mb ram combo should i get for my next pc. For now i have to use what i have hehe.
I have 2 ssd's (16g/16g) they are pretty much the same one is for OS and programs the second one is for games only.
So should i install the paging file to my OS ssd?
And if yes what numbers should i put there.
sorry for my english.
Bro pls I have problem the game feels blurry on my 7800xt gpu i use Taa
At what resolution are you playing on? At 1080p I can’t stand TAA, not in Tarkov, and not in most games to be honest. I only use FXAA or no anti aliasing at all instead of having to use the blurry mess that is TAA. That is personal preference, of course. I don’t mind the way the game looks with FXAA, as a matter of fact, I find it to make spotting people way easier.
Increase sharpness setting, add adaptive/luma sharpen in postFX, if those don't help then go FXAA.
Im playing at 1440p yea with fxaa no blurry but the game looks like sh*t xd
@@kadoamg4143 try with mrcydesign said. I personally run TAA high with 85 Luma and 55 Adaptive in PostFX, but your milage may very depending on what resolution you're playing on.
@@klemintime1452 yeah ymmv but I currently only have a 1080p monitor so I run sharpness at 0.9 and adaptive sharpen at 55, I don't use luma sharpen, and with these setting it's not blurry for me basically at all
I have a 5700x 6750 xt and 32gb 3200 ram, while playing my ram usage is 14.9gb on woods, is this normal? Some people said it usually go like 22, also my cpu is always like 30% tops and gpu in the 90s%. I play 1440p medium settings with frame generation, fps is usually on the 150 but O have SO MUCH FPS DROPS it makes me crazy, going to try this tomorrow. If it doesnt work im going to start thinking it could be something related to bad SA (Brazil) servers
wonder if this could be used for other games, like star citizen.
I have that game but haven't tested this in it myself. Every ~3 months I log on, see the fps is absolute shite, and get back off lol. Do love that game and wish it ran better, though.
Man i have a small ssd and if i put this in there i have like 10gb left should i still do it in ssd
Not really related with paging files but I have a laptop with r9 7940hs, 4070 and 16 gigs of ddr5 ram. I have checked that my cpu is not thermal throttling and i have +80 fpa in all the other maps but in streets, my fps drops below 60-50 and stutters from time to time and using scopes also causes instant 15 fps loss. I know the dual channeling and some stuff are different in ddr5 rams but do you think upgrading to 32gb can fix that ? (My ingame settings are low and as performance oriented as possible) i dont use lasso but i use intelligent ram cleaner.
Yes I do believe ram would help I had the same issue with 32 gb of ram and a 1660 Ti, but an intel i7 6700 and would get scope in fps drop. So for me it was just the cpu holding me back. I think in your case it’s the ram.
it won't fix the scopes, but it will help those bigger maps for sure. 16gb is the *bare* minimum for this game and 32 is wayyyy more comfortable.
What program do you use for displaying the avg frametime in the top left corner?
RivaTuner (msi afterburner) and maybe capframex?
@@tomDOODS was right. I used to use MSI afterburner but have now switched mainly to CapFrameX + RTSS.
can someone help unity crash?
Depends on what the crash is- feel free to make a help-forum post in our discord and we'll take a look at the logs.
HI Klemintime I'm going to try that setting because streets doesn't run too well in my PC I have a Rtx 2060 6Gb, and sometimes I get stutters, so might it's cause by the memory leak, I have 32 Gb of ram and a Ryzen 5 5600, most of the time runs for me like 40-60 fps, I'm getting close to the quest for unclocking the spear so I need stability in my matches, you think this tweak might help me?
*Maybe*; but if the paging file is already off of any HDDs you likely wont see any improvement. Again; its mainly to help with stability and to prevent crashes and only nets performance boosts when the paging file is stuck on slower drives.
@@klemintime1452 I'm testing it rn and I have to say It's way more stable, sometimes I have 60-80 when streets have low activity, and high pvp with people I'm getting 50-60 fps, I have 3 SSD's, one nvme and two normals SSD's, I'm not getting those high stutters and It's more confortable the pvp, most of the time I was running 45-50 fps low, so thank you so much for showing us this tweak.
Even 64GB low page file will crash =.= BSG
Im sorry so that means with the setting you ran for the test it was using 32gb of physical memory (8gb of vram + 24 GB RAM) and on top of that 89% 54 gb of virtual memory? Or am i reading the results a bit wrong?
No worries; I should've clarified! My understanding is that Virtual memory contains both the RAM and the paging file, but NOT the VRAM (its monitored separately in the GPU tab of HWinfo). So that right there was 32GB of RAM + 22 GB of Paging File Allocation at high textures and 1440p resolution. Good question!
@@klemintime1452 thank you for the clarification! But still that is insane. I have a 4090 and 64 GB of RAM so I shouldn't really have to worry but I still never realized the amount of active RAM that this game uses. Very good info and thanks for the videos!
@@WesiteTheTestie That's just the *allocation* though, not the actual usage. Its like the amount of seats booked in a theatre, *not* the amount of people who actually show up. Still, its absurd lol
@@klemintime1452 oh okay! Thank you for the full clarification!
I did this and now my game gets stuck on “creating loot pools 100%” and when it does load in I disconnect. I tired to reset this process but I still can’t play please help!
What did you set the custom page file to? In the meantime while waiting for that response, try verifying the game files. It should be pathing correctly to it, but something's not adding up there.
If you want to, join my discord and post a screenshot of what you did in the help-forum. We can take a closer look there too.
I didn't ask
First!
then whyd you click on the video?
@@untitledpoptart2264 Don't worry; he's a regular in the streams. This is his humor
@@klemintime1452 oh lolol
I asked Google yesterday, so this is perfect.
DOESNT FIX THE DDOS PROBLEM GOING ON RN AS WE SPEAK
uh- what?
@@klemintime1452 ..I actually am laughing a little at the comment. Cant imagine how pissed off OP is. Likely screaming at birds as we speak.