FIXING Your Graphics & PostFX In Tarkov For Better FPS and Visibility! | PC Sherpa Episode 2
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This was a really great session helping a member of my community fix how dull and dreary their Tarkov looked! The before and after shots were crazy and I hope this helps you figure out what you should be adjusting in your game! Thank you Jigglez for your time and thank you all for your support! :)
(Also for reference, their system was a 5600x with a 3080 and 32 GB of RAM)
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GPU-Bound Settings: • Change THESE Settings ...
CPU-Bound Settings: • What Settings ACTUALLY...
MIP Streaming: • Do NOT Use This Settin...
POSTFX: • These PostFX Settings ...
DLDSR And DLSS: • Making Tarkov's FPS SM...
Shadow Quality: • We NEED To Clear Up TH...
Music used:
Plusma, Ben Bada Boom - Cabriolet chll.to/13c8afd4
cocabona, Emperose - Lost Woods chll.to/eb575966
Yasper, sonofmark - Yellowblue chll.to/1748963a
Evil Needle - Tendre chll.to/34cf0292
Masked Man - Winter Wonderland chll.to/01aaa3e8
Leavv - Winter Shore chll.to/2f796c33
Leavv, Maduk - Company chll.to/de7cb752
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro (Silent Hill Lookin Graphics)
1:04 Why They Are CPU-bound (and you might be, too)
2:24 DLSS Helps in GPU-bound Scenarios
3:50 Texture Quality Discussion
4:33 Overall Visibility / Object LOD Quality
5:45 Anti-aliasing (TAA High Vs. FXAA)
7:34 Anisotropic Filtering
9:08 Screen Space Reflections (SSR)
10:38 PostFX Tweaking (And Nvidia Control Panel Tweaks)
15:30 Fixing Shimmering with DLDSR / DLSS
21:23 Conclusion / Thank You!
Settings:
Resolution: 1440p
Screen: Borderless
Texture Quality: Medium
Shadows Quality: Low
Object LOD Quality: 3
Overall Visibility: 1500
Anti-aliasing: TAA High
Resampling: 1x off (duh)
DLSS/FSR 1.0/ FSR 2.1: Off
HBAO: Max Performance
SSR: Medium
Anisotropic Filtering: On
Nvidia Reflex: On
Sharpness: 0.9
MIP Streaming Off
Specs:
CPU: i5-13600k
GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra
RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) @ 3200mhz CL16
1 TB Samsung 980 Pro SDD
MOBO: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ProSeries
PSU: Corsair RM 850x
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Thanks again to Jigglez for making this such a great episode, and of course if you enjoyed do hit the usual TH-cam buttons! I am still experimenting with how I want this series to flow though, so do let me know what you think about how this is laid out this time!
Thanks as always for watching.
Excellent video, Jigglez is a homie of mine! This is arguably one of the best image quality/clarity/visibility vids for tarkov out there. You are doin god's work. Keep it up !!!
I have a question about his screen mode. I was always under the impression you should run in full screen and he is running in borderless. Would that make any difference?
i got a i58600k and a 3600 12gb and streets runs like a gift!!! ;(
Actually, the live/real time settings coaching was a banger! You just changed that man's life. lol
Thank you for the dedication to making helpful content, Klem. Your community member seemed to have a very similar PC build to my own (lots of GPU headroom) and following your advice made my game look better and seemed to increase my average frame rate. You da best.
Its my pleasure; glad to hear it helped! :D
really liked this episode Klem. The format is much better IMO. Keep up the excellent work!!
Great stuff. Something to add: SSR will also reflect lighting under trees and bushes, so even with it on low, it will make seeing through them easier. The downside is large bodies of water look horrible on low. So, I highly recommend SSR and increased LOD (low LOD makes bushes blobby closer) on maps like Woods and Shoreline to make spotting enemies much easier.
Ah I knew I was forgetting something- I noticed that as well but was never sure how to properly convey that. Good call.
LOD on 3 is good or maybe more?
What number is good for lod?
Imagine they just added DLAA as an option so we didn't have to do a Spyro-style fly through the hoops challenge to unlock extra visual quality lmao
there is a app you could use called playnite where you set the resolution you want to play the game on and when you close the game it sets your resolution back to its default
Just earned a sub. You are what the community needs! Thank you for this.
Much appreciated :D
thx for your work and sharing this nice experiences.
I've seen hundreds of vids.. This ... THIS IS THE ONE
This is the best video I've seen in a long time. Instead of just blurting out a bunch of settings, you actually explain what is going on. great work. Will share this for sure!
Thank you! My goal is to actually explain stuff instead of blurting it out as you said. Even though I learn all of this stuff via my own research and self-education, its brought a lot of people together so far to help fully figure all the FPS rumors out. Much more coming soon :D
@@klemintime1452 keep it up man, I learned alot just from this one episode and although I dont have a 3080, (3060 ti FTW3) I adjusted my settings to help with streets. Every other map is great on full settings.. Streets, as for many, can be a headache if your just trying to achieve reliability. What actually helped my system the most was an upgrade from 16gb to 32gb. I always thought 16 was overkill until I did that.. Making me think about trying 64!
@@cannedham3774 64 might still be overkill for now, especially if you're running automatic RAM cleaner in game. If you're running medium textures, you should have no issues with that. And yeah, RAM capacity isn't a problem until... well, it is lol.
Thank you for watching dude :)
Thanks man, video helped me a ton.
Really good video. I try to optimise more with latency in mind aswell, as aa/dlss/hbao etc all introduce more input lag into this spaghetti code game.
doing the work that the devs should be doing, thanks for the help
Thank you! Just trying my best to both educate and also learn. The support means a ton🙏
Anisotropic per texture is good enough, it is different levels for different textures. On forces all textures to use the higher setting, which can tank frames on maps with a lot of walls and buildings.
Great video. All this stuff with rendering in higher res and downscaling it again was entirely new for me. Absolutely genius move to feed more information to those scaling algorithms.
GREAT content!!
No idea why pepole are still getting intel for a tarkov specific rig. Just buy „X3D” series AMD cpu. 200 fps on most maps with 7800xt and 7800x3d. 3d cache on these cpus are really doing the job.
Just got one in yesterday (with 4070 ti super) and 32Gb ram. Max graphics on streets I got 140 fps like HOLY
I run a 5800x3D with a 6700xtgpu and its super smooth gameplay, streets is the only map i get under 100fps
Amd is better than intel?
@@Saberx1993yeah
Awesome vid bro
THX bro, went from 75-80 fps in streets to 100-110 fps :D
new sub
Huge brother; so happy to hear it o7
What helped your fps here?
20:02 - Before DLDSR
20:06 - After DLDSR
20:18 - DLDSR + DLSS
Great video man I really do need this same help I have no clue why my game runs super bad sometimes unplayable on streets and I have no knowledge on this
Are you running with 16gb of ram ?
Is your swap/page file set to the same size as your ram ?
32gb is the best for streets and woods.
Also, I didn't see it mentioned in the vid, but 'process Lasso' is hugely helpful, tarkovs 'use physical cores' setting is useless, it only works once, process Lasso forces all core usage.
@@no1baggiefanI have i7 11700k and get 60 fps average on streets (1070 to). Have heard process lasso doing a lot with and chips but it doesn’t do anything for me :(
Thanks! Remember if you need help the discord is probably one of the best places to find it. There's a lot of new people, but with that we can actually look at all your settings to figure out what may be the issue.
Could you touch on the "legacy scaling" settings for the DSR? I have an older GPU (Nvidia GTX 1660 blower) that runs tarkov decently. I've never messed with the DSR setting but it is currently set to 2.00x legacy scaling and its not uncommon for me to see 85-95% GPU usage with modern games and only 30-40% CPU usage (Part of this is due to build specs and cheaping out on GPU) however I can play VR titles with about 40% usage across both my GPU and CPU. Is the Monitor the cause of the DSR settings and high GPU usage? also do you think an upgrade to a RTX 3070 would operate within my existing specs without issue? Maybe swap from a fan/defuse style CPU cooler for a liquid CPU cooler for ease of mind.
Great video and great insight/knowledge of the nitty gritty of the settings!
Specs: built in 2019??
Intel i9-9900k unlocked Overclocked to 4.8-5GHz Depending on load
MSI Z390 gaming pro carbon MSI XMP and Game boost enabled
PNY Nvidia 1660 blower 6GB (comparable to GTX 1070) overclocked to ~1800MHz
32gb corsair vengeance (non-RGB) 2400MHz
1tb Samsung 860 QVO SATA SSD
2tb Samsung 990 PRO m.2 SSD
8tb Seagate Barracuda HDD
30 Spectre Ultra wide 21:9 2560x1080
Having never played until today, how did you get to this part of the map to test the graphics? Thanks.
dlss plus dsr for life
Thank you for this video! My Tarkov looked like roblox and my CPU was aways at 100% while my GPU standed around 30%, now my GPU stands about 80% and CPU 80% as well! I gained FPS also, from 30 FPS to 50 FPS while increasing my resolution and overall quality!
Awesome! Glad to hear it helped :D
Im running a 4070 ti + i7-12700f 32gb ddr4, 1440p. Just tried the DLDSR / DLSS, method and damn it helped (dlss is set at quality). Gained a solid 8-9 fps on shoreline. That is crazy
so this method is fps incrase? even without dlss or i need dlss? and what if i only do dlss and no dldsr does that mean i can get more fps but the shmirering would be there?
I tried DSR + DLSS and it worked wonders. At first, DSR tanked my 3060 12gb to 97% average load, then DLSS Quality made it go down to 60% max without any significant quality loss. Thanks!
u want ur gpu at max load 😂😂😂 holy pc noobs
@@r3mxdnot necessarily. If you achieve and can exceed your desired frame rate and graphical fidelity, the optimal route would be to have your settings at the lowest GPU utilization while still retaining the desired outcome . If you’re talking maximum optimization, you also take into account thermals and power draw. Not pure max performance, max throttle 24/7
@@jovialvibes5962Having reduced GPU utilization will smoothen the frame pacing, but best case scenario for both input latency and frame pacing is GPU very near to 100% load but not quite at it. Or, if you have an Nvidia card, use Nvidia Low Latency set to On or On + Boost in all games that support Low Latency. So while "u want ur gpu at max load" is flat wrong, the truth is closer than you're suggesting.
@@r3mxdredditor logic, there are way more factors involved, making a blanket statement like that makes you the pc noob
I think I liked this format more than the previous one and it could potentially be less work for you, one could see the progression actually making a difference. I would have wanted to see a clear side-by-side before and after though, perhaps even tease it in the thumbnail?
I should've done that at the end, that would've been good. Next time I'll do that for sure! As far as the thumbnail goes, I experimented with doing it but found it a bit too cluttered and not really *pleasing* to look at (if that makes sense)
Hi! Awesome video helping people. I discover a video from you explaning DLSS and DLDSR. I have to say that changed my life playiong this game and not only Tarkov, I can use this technique in other games looking absolutely awesome! I have a little problem that only appears on Tarkov ( The finals, hell let loose, R6 siege works ok). On tarkov if I hit Alt and Tab and then return to the game, the game backs to the native resolution ( from 4K to 2K) appearing NIS blue text in top left corner. When this happen , I have to hit 2 times Alt plus Tab to restore the resolution. Do you know why this happens only on this game. Thanks a lot , you do an increible work, I love how tarkov looks now and with more stable FPS.
Great video! What did you use to track the gpu, cpu, etc stats on screen, please?
MSI Afterburner + RTSS is the tool. Its fairly easy to install and setup if you just follow a YT tutorial; just a couple settings to tweak after install and the overlay works 👍
@klemintime1452 nice, thanks man. I got msi, but never used rtss.
One thing that really helped me with the low gpu usage was using 2x resampling. I got a few more frames and the game looked a lot better, even if you have a 1080p monitor.
In the video, Jigglez used DLDSR to achieve a similar effect to what resampling does at less of a GPU-hit. Both work, but DLDSR is the more flexible of the two options.
@@klemintime1452 yeah, I watched your video on DLDSR vs DLSS after I watched this video. Since I upgraded from my 5600x to a 5800x3d I solved the low fps and low gpu usage, but is great to know so I can help a few friends out.
@@MegaEnzo07 so i have an r5 5600x and i wanna upgrade to 5800x3d or 7000x3d in the summer until that should i use this DLDSR 1,78x + DLSS Quality with cpu-gpu OC to a safe mhz n ghz ? (iM CONFUSED A LITTLE SORRY)
@anyapaasd I don't think you should use dlss or dldsr. Being capped by the cpu, I had better results upscaling the resolution to 2x. It puts more pressure into the gpu.
Awesome video, makes me wonder how badly my gpu is running on all my games now lol especially on tarkov. If you keep doing this series and need another person to help out I wouldn’t complain! Im rocking a new 4080 with a ryzen 9 7950x3d
If you ever want to just hop in, sundays are PC Sherpa live day, so feel free to stop in! There will likely be a good bit of people but it doesn't hurt to have a wide range of PCs to work with!
I really liked the way you walked someone through all of the settings. I have a i7-9700k and a 3060 ti and I’ve been struggling to get my setting right for this wipe. My cpu is not overclocked so I’m wondering what I can do to get stable frames
Its definitely the CPU causing the inconsistent FPS as the load on the CPU varies depending on where you're looking in game (seriously- you can turn and look different directions in the center of the map and your FPS will be different).
Its hard to say more without seeing exactly what youre config is and what you are running, so do join the discord and make a little post in the #help-forum and we can take a look!
@@klemintime1452 yeah I’ve been binge watching your videos to try and adjust my settings properly. I’ve been testing them on shoreline because it seems really intensive right now. Also I hate how when you scope in on most midrange optics my frames drop from about 90 to 55-60 in the scope picture.
Interesting enough I found that turning on SSR to any setting will actually boost dark areas at a distance. Why? I do not know but it does. Makes for better visablility than having it off.
You can actually see this by going on the big red side of the land bridge on customs and looking across to the pipes you go under to get to RUAF.
I personally set it to medium bc on low things like puddles can get shimmery and distracting, especially on interchange. Setting it any higher though doesn't look much different visually and there are no further benefits.
Yeah I have also noticed that- I think I may bring that up when I do my next settings guide and try to grab specific examples like you mentioned.
overall vis can have a huge impact. 1000 is plenty. on most small maps i run 400 , because when you walk around in buildings, all those bushes and trees outside of the window 1000 meters far away really are not necessary to be rendered.. for me above 1000 tanks frames. Could be worth checking if 1000 or 400 is enough for you, because 5 frames more in cqb could make the difference.
Offcourse, just upp distance a bit if you want to go snipe far.
I've been hearing this one a lot, and since you left a comment I thought I would ask you this:
Do you think the Tarkov experience is akin to gambling or addiction, and why or why not?
Out of the two, definitely more of an addiction. That rush of adrenaline you get on completing a raid and *just* barely getting out is similar to nearly overdosing: your heart rate spikes to unsafe levels and you begin to feint upon hitting the "raid finished" screen.
That being said, you could argue that it is gambling, but the biggest thing you are gambling on is mental stability and time. In the end, we still come back though, so it is *definitely* an addiction.
Thanks for commenting, by the way. Means a lot :)
I'm probably gonna have to do this 😅 I've been having a crap ton of issues performance wise so yeah I NEED help 😂
"Na-vidia" lmao
Stuck with my 2070 Super, me sad! Have a 5900X, me happy! Haven't played Tarkov yet, how do I get to the spot you are at so I can play with the settings? Thanks.
The 2070 super is still a pretty solid card. Copy most of the settings and drop into a practice raid. From there make minor tweaks until you get a solid balance between performance and visuals. Frames might be a bit low if you copy it setting for setting at the start.
so if i see this right with DLDSR itself is incraseing the fps? cause in the video the guy had 78-80fps in that spot and with DLDSR had 90-92 and with dlss 98
I’m running a R9 5900X, 4070Ti, 32GB 3200MHz CL16, and the game is on an NVMe SSD. Lighthouse and Streets just tank my FPS. One game I can run Lighthouse around 100fps, next raid, it will be 70, with drops below 60..
Is there any tipts for 2060
my eft settings with 2070 8gb vram, 5600x, 16gbs ram: (i do enable ram cleaner before raid and then disable after load in to drop memory), FOV 65, Texture Medium, Shadows Low, Object LOD 3.5, Overall Visibility 3K, Anti-aliasing TAA High, SSR Medium, Anisotropic Filtering On, Nvidia Reflex On + Boost, Sharpness 0 ( i use post fx sharpness). Post FX: Boost Monitor Gamma +40 avg, Brightness 33, Sat 75, Clarity 100, Color 100, Luma 80, Adaptive 69, Cheese 45
what fps do you get i have similar specs
Klem, what's your opinion on setting a paging file if you have 16gb physical ram to get 32gb?
I have 8gb VRAM, 16gb PHY memory, NVME Gen4 16gb paging file. CPU Bound. Or CPU Bottlenecked, should I say.
Paging files were only ever recommended by BSG if you're experiencing crashing (and had recommendations of 25 GB for less than 16 GB of ram and 20GB for 16 and over). Otherwise, I don't think they recommending tweaking it.
Why not just use supersampling from in-game? It does make the image stabler.
Maybe it differs from how NVIDIA does it, but functionally it achieves the goal without having to enable it for your whole PC.
DLDSR does it at less performance cost than straight-up resampling does. On top of that, I believe we found a workaround to setting it globally, as he changed the resolution in the game to achieve those effects. No change to his Windows res as far as I am aware.
These new gpus are like turbos. They want to run a lot or next to not at all. Im holding 100-200fps max settings, dlss quality.
NIS 4k opens up the resolution range and makes distant objects clear.
Mind your fan curves running these settings.
Running 3080 TI FE 12gb & 12700kf, 32gb 3200 ddr4
Holy DLSS plus DSR took my frames way up
The fact that BSG knows that their little game is absolutely unoptimzed while doing absolutely nothing about it is absolutely horrible... The Open Beta that we still have, have come out in 2017, the development started in 2012. The engine hogs every bit of resource and yet they still wanna load up everything into the game and not make big segments whole.
Hello 4060ti 13400f
Should i go for 1440p or stay on FHD?
I also have 40% gpu use.
I thinking of upgrade to 13600kf but its pointless i think if i go for 1440p?
Not sure yet that 1440 is reasonable in other games (which i dont play lol)
i play 12600k and 3070 1440p tarkov. fps going 80-100. high textures and medium shadow no dlss.
mr klemintime, does REBAR have any effect on tarkov fps? is having it on or off any different? just wondering since u may have tested it in the past
GPU utilization was normally around 97-98% (which is likely reflex doing its thing). I was thinking on a similar wavelength to you until people with modern hardware (I mean best of the best) were reporting improvements too. HAGS can be important for the smoothness of some apps though, so some people instead resorted to running HAGS with LLM *instead* of reflex for a lighter limitation of the frame buffer that doesn't sync up the GPU and CPU as heavily. Your solution is also a good way as well, it really just depends on what is the best and most consistent latency reduction.
i think you replied to the wrong dude bro! you already replied to my question on a different vid ;p thanks@@klemintime1452
I have a Ryzen 9 7950x3D and still only get around 40% GPU usage with a 4070ti
0:00 Literally my EXACT specs.
NVIDIA DLSS on quality has its own AA, which is better than any of tarkov's options, give it a try, at 1440p I can hardly tell a difference between DLSS quality or off when it comes to reduced quality.
I would love for you to do this for me I have a GTX 1070 and a Ryzen 3 3300 4 Core
Light house Sutter when fighting
thank you for admitting that no anti aliasing is the clearest. FXAA is doodoo. TAA is doodoo.
i would highly recommend everyone to get used to the way no AA looks. it's pixelly, but that's what detail looks like. It's not a hard to acquire taste, and you'll HATE turning AA on when you're used to it.
Shouldn't be shadow quality the biggest game changer in a CPU bound scenario, since on "low" they get computed on the CPU and not on the GPU?
A common rumor- I found no evidence of this when I made my video discussing exactly that and Shadow Quality's impact when CPU bound. Based on my numbers, if there was any actual impact, it was incredibly minor.
You'll also gain performance going to fullscreen...
DLDSR x DLSS causes my 10gb 3080 to shit the bed on lighthouse and streets. It’s not consistently but I will drop me to 20- 30 fps intermittently, so I stopped using that
"go to settings to activate windows" :D
I just role play as a pmc who barely passed the vision test.
LMAO
I do that all the time because I suck at the game!
Hey brother been watching you for a while, i've even donated because i really benefit from your content. I'm rocking a 3090 & i9900k. I get stutters / micro tears randomly in my raids still after countless tweaks and optimizations. Anytips?
The 9900k is definitely the reason you're stuttering and getting those issues. Since you said you've done a lot of tweaks in the past I'll recommend something simple: make sure object LOD quality is nowhere past 3 and use Process Lasso to keep *other* tasks away from Tarkov's bottlenecked thread.
If you show up any Sundays on stream, though, I am pulling more people for PC Sherpa-ing live instead of just through these videos, so hopefully you could be pulled there! (There is also my discord too, we can check your stuff there)
@@klemintime1452 What do you mean by "use Process Lasso to keep other tasks away from Tarkov's bottlenecked thread." I have Process Lasso but just to set CPU Priority for tarkov (set to high). What else do you do to keep other tasks away from tarkov's thread?
@@jnh8381 CPU Affinity is what I'm talking about there. I discuss it in my most recent Process Lasso video, but to give a general description I'll give an example with my PC:
Because I have a 13600k, I have 6 Performance cores and 8 Efficiency cores. I know that the game is often bottlenecked by the CPU on one of the performance cores, so I can take background tasks that I do not want interfering and move them to the e cores. For instance, while I am streaming, I'll move discord or OBS to the e-cores so that it has less of an impact on my CPU-bound performance (as then the game has more room to play on with the P-cores).
@@klemintime1452 Ahhh got it, makes sense. Thanks
I'm on a 1080ti and an 8700k.. struggling. Any suggestions?
You are also heavily CPU bound like Jigglez (the person in this video) was, and so I'd recommend to follow this partially to increase your visual quality. I also have CPU-bound settings guides on the channel already for reference too!
I wish someone who knew what they were talking about would help me do this, how can I build a computer myself but can’t make it look good lol
If anybodys gpu usage isnt running 90-100% dont even turn on the game and look up some nvidia control panel tutorials and learn how to properly set it up, then you can play with all the graphics and post fx settings in game
Already on the first point, it can be somewhat misleading.
MSI Afterburner does not read the core utilization correctly if entire CPU is selected to be shown.
In most cases the deduction you came will still be correct, but it can be misleading.
The game looks like clay because he is running 1080p.
He could do HIGH textures on 1080p without an issue.
That said, it’s good you introduced him to upscaling setting as Tarkov runs better @ 1440p on 30 series.
Taking into account his knowledge about all this, first thing I would ask is if his Freesync is on and if its running on Borderless. If not, changing this will be the most noticable change to picture smoothness.
All this being said, thank you for helping members of this community tackle these issues.
Will these tips apply to someone with a 2070 super
It all depends on the CPU. If you're CPU-bound like him, you probably do have room to spare and can follow parts of the video.
i can never find helpfull videos like this for amd systems :(
The second I make my donation goal for the streaming PC / get enough money, I will 100% be making AMD guides. Im really excited to do it, honestly.
What is that overlay you're using to see performance?
MSI Afterburner- it's a really great tool to see usages while in the game and has a TON of guides all over youtube on it.
@@klemintime1452 thanks bud
i have a 4080 16gb(or something around 4000+ amd card) 32gb of ram a ryz 9 3900x cpu and more stuff and i barly can run tarkov on low low and ultra low, turning on post fx drops my already super low fps from 30 to 10 thus unplayable. i replaced everything in my rig in hopes to fix it even my psu (to handle the greif of power my new gpu need. ) no postfx i could handle on my lower system with a 970gtx had a smooth 90fps and all the fine things of postfx but not anymore and i geniune have no clue why it still presist to be shite
you have nvidea or amd? i dint get it...
Are you sure you have you GPU working at all int tarkov? Also you have a terrible CPU bottleneck.
@@senjykrazansky991 amd rig
@@obamacare2916 it goes around 15-22% on the gpu the cpu never goes above 40% ram always between 66-99% only on tarkov and icarus every other game i play its fine..
@@obamacare2916 Its an issuew i haved with all my 2 prevoius systems all tru and tru i spent over 6000£ in new parts to no uvail i know i cannot blame win 10 but it all started when i was forced over to the worse Os on the planet to ever be made (yes i hate win 8-11 ) if i could still run 7 i would. but i do not know whats the issue anymore either tarkov is just cursed for me or my rigs are cursed idk everything in my now rig is brand spanking new less then 2-3 years old (motherboard , ram and cpu was bought in 21-23') gpu fan-cooler, psu was bought 3 months ago , pluss 2 new .nmve2 ssd's ) i for all my wisdom do not understand why my rig do not wanna run tarkov smooth but that it run like a bag of shit even when everything is turned off and on super low is beyond me, i have m8s that run on half my system that can play on high even ultra with a stready 60- 100fps and no bsod .. ive run tru countless guides tips n tricks with little to no actual solutions to my problems. i is at an geniune lost path in the road (so to speak) and about the cpu bottle neck i have no idea how to fix it thats why i bought a better gpu my previous 1 was a 3000series but it only had 8gb so i felt it was worse then my 970gtx from way back when. i spent more or less all my savings into this hopeless mess of a rig just so i could run tarkov at decent grapich settings and with less lag but i guess its not for me no matter what i run i must accpet i must always run like i have an 1938 old poteto pc. sigh.. pardon the lengthy answer .
With a laptop with 7-6800h and 3070Ti 32GB ram is my GPU or CPU the more bottlenecking part?
Its likely that CPU, so I'd suggest tweaking your settings around what I discuss in my CPU bound settings guide from last wipe.
@@klemintime1452 Thanks!
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for some reason tarkov been using like 32gb of cache out of my memory
With tha headroom at 1080p he should have just turned up textures.
i just got a new gpu and felt streets of tarkov got even worse performance, gpu utilization in this game is horrible, but if its a cpu bottleneck, why is the cpu also just sitting at 30 to 40%? shouldn't it be higher if its bottlenecked?
Good question- you still are CPU bound, as nearly all games do not utilize modern CPUs to their fullest extent (i.e 100%), as the amount of cores is simply not feasible to use at the same time for the same tasks. Most APIs / game engines can only use one or a couple cores at a time to actually send draw calls to the GPU, thus eventually causing *those* threads to be the bottlenecking factor (among other CPU pressures in the game).
With that being said you'll likely see 6-8 threads being used, but only a couple being used heavily and this being the bottleneck. There are other factors to this like the CPU's cache, but that's the TLDR (and I don't want to bore with more text lol).
@@klemintime1452 do you run the 'use physical cores' option ?
Why they fked up streets fps again with that update? It was running ok before
i really need help guys, i cant run more than 50fps on street like it does not go higher than that, but it also happens to drop quite heavy, my specs i7-11700F, NvidiaRTX3060 and 32gb of ram, i should be able to run the game with at least like 60 frames right? i tried literally everything processlasso, windows optimization you name it i honestly dont know what to do anymore please help
Note: 50frames with worst settings, i also tried taking load of the cpu turning on reflexions and stuff, so basically turning graphics settings up, it didnt drop it didnt go up🤷🏼♂️
My pc is like 10 years old, I have a 1070 and idr the rest but my pc runs streets. Only a tiny lag spike on load in and very occasionally otherwise it’s good for me
@@thaschwartz i dont get it every other game runs perfektly fine
@@lassigaboii9247Tarkov really likes fast ram. You have 32gb of ram, but is it running at 2133 or 2400MT/s? Windows Task Manager can show you what your ram speed is under the performance tab. I'm unsure if the 11700F even supports faster ram, I think it may allow 2933 or 3200? But I may be wrong and it allows faster than that, depending on the motherboard.
I know when I crank my settings up in 1440p I get better frames. I have a 3060ti r7 5700x and 32GB ram. Lower settings make my game stutter and gives less frames.
That's essentially because the frame pacing is more consistent- GPU and CPU have relatively equal worktimes on their parts of the frame and so they stay in sync more easily.
Keeping your GPU somewhat utilized is important, but it not the end of the world. Ideally, you want ~95% GPU usage so that you are just rocking in between CPU and GPU bound. Having your settings low like in your case makes the GPU have to "wait" for your CPU to finish making the next frame to start processing it.
If you have GPU headroom like Jigglez did here, having some settings up offers you a more balanced experience *and* better visuals, and that's what Im attempting to help show.
Thoughts on frame injection?
Tbh it only works well if your game is already running good, that’s the main issue, but ittl always have some input delay, BUT if your game is running well, it genuinely will appear/feel better if ur frame times are good -Person who knows nothing about frame gen (You’ll be at a pretty bad disadvantage because of the input delay, purely because its a multiplayer game)
I don't really recommend it as the increased latency and decrease in image quality can hurt your gameplay. If people like that additional smoothness, though, I can't really blame em. To each their own, but I do not personally recommend it.
in Nvidia graphics settings, turn gamma up to 1.48 - 1.70 and turn digital vibrance up to .7... Postfx is not needed whatsoever
I wish I had DLD but I’m on a laptop and nvidia control I don’t have the option
You probably still have regular DSR though, which would still work (and so does resampling, but its a lot heavier!)
What is the command in Tarkov to see the stats in top left corner ?
fps 1, fps 2, or fps 3 (the higher number, the more stats show up on screen)
That's MSI Afterburner and RTSS, not Tarkov. They are external softwares overlaying onto Tarkov
@@zachthomas6771 oh whoops yeah top left is that program; i thought he said top right.
does cpu priority affect performance?
Not really; you should be using those types of priority to instead keep other applications in check that are running in the background.
What about amd gpus any simular settings??
Similar to the DSR upscaling into DLSS downscaling? You can enable "Virtual Super Resolution" under Gaming - Display - select your main monitor - on off toggle near the top of the list. Then you can set Tarkov to Fullscreen and set your resolution to above native, and that will upscale the game similar to what DSR is doing. Obviously then using FSR 1.0 or FSR 2.2 to downscale if needed. FSR 1.0 will lower GPU usage without adding much blur, FSR2.2 will stabilize stuff like those flickering railings in the video but does add a bit of a blur behind fast moving objects, especially your own optics, grass, and the tops of trees in the wind. I run a 4k monitor with a 7900XTX, have the game upscale to 4224 x something and then downscale using FSR 2.2 Quality personally.
(Stupid) QUESTION: Do have someone with lets say: 180fps always an benefit against 50fps? I mean is a higher fps always better?
A 130 fps gap like you give in your example, yes, 180 is always better than 50.
If it's 180fps vs 150fps there is no advantage
Is it just me or does this guy sound like McSkillet?
But latest update best texture what so ever is high keep getting better fps in high texture
How about i9 9900k 36gb and 1080ti oc edt
How you get 36gb of ram?
HBAO takes about 30-50 FPS, Yet you left it ON
i realy need ur help... i have a 6k pc and my fps is worst then this guy on streets.... pls help
Dude, ask away in my discord! We can all help you figure out what's up there :)
How come youre saying he's cpu bound when he has like 35% cpu usage. Am i missing something
You can be CPU bound by a single thread (or via cache pressure on the CPU). The CPU does not have to be at 100% usage for it to be the bottleneck.
@@klemintime1452but did you check each individual thread or did you assume he was cpu bound. Rtss will let you look at it on a per thread basis. I haven't gotten that far in my testing yet tho
@@rodiculous9464 Without even checking each individual thread, seeing the GPU usage below 100% signifies a CPU-bound scenario as that is what is responsible for delivering the work to the GPU. With his CPU though, I believe it was properly using all 6 physical cores on his CPU, giving him 50% usage in online (IIRC). If not and he isn't getting 100% usage on any core. Its almost certainly a cache/memory bottleneck then, as the cache on the CPU can't swap out things fast enough to keep the workload on the CPU up. Either way, its CPU-related.
I think it stems from the first time people use task manager and learn 100% usage = bad. Then they figure out what graphics cards are and figure they want both “usage” numbers as low as possible. I have a 1660 and a ryzen 5 and run streets fine with roughly the same settings. Imma try this dlss -un- dlss thing though. That’s interesting.
I used to use DLDSR but then i switched to and AMD card, not only does it not have it but AMDs anti aliasing just seems so much worse :/
You can enable "Virtual Super Resolution" under Gaming - Display - select your main monitor - on off toggle near the top of the list. Then you can set Tarkov to Fullscreen and set your resolution to above native, and that will upscale the game similar to what DSR is doing. Obviously then using FSR 1.0 or FSR 2.2 to downscale if needed. FSR 1.0 will lower GPU usage without adding much blur, FSR2.2 will stabilize stuff like those flickering railings in the video but does add a bit of a blur behind fast moving objects, especially your own optics, grass, and the tops of trees in the wind. I run a 4k monitor with a 7900XTX, have the game upscale to 4224 x something and then downscale using FSR 2.2 Quality personally.
Copy and pasted from my own comment replying to someone else asking about that
I followed this but my fps got cut in half I don’t understand lol
You might have become GPU bound by following this *exactly*, decreasing your FPS due to how hard DLDSR is to run. You need a lot of GPU headroom.
@@klemintime1452 I changed to use physical cores and turns off ssr and back at good frames and game looks great!
this is all offline mode with no scavs. my game runs excellent in offline mode, he needs to run it online though and compare
So did my guy just miss the cpu usage % in the top left or what? They're both floating in the 30's.
to be clear ... some people are not CPU bound because your CPU+GPU combo is bad. It is because Tarkov is just shitty optimized .. for example i run a rtx 4070 ti and got 99% GPU Usage in all other games except tarkov .. so my CPU isnt bad at all but to bad for tarkov because it is just shitty programmed.
i get like 3 percent cpu usage and 40 percent gpu. i know nothing about pcs, just point click n be happy
Is that data from task manager? check with MSI afterburner or HWinfo instead and it should be more accurate.
@@klemintime1452 yes it’s seem accurate. those numbers come from msi afterburner and hwinfo
@@aimLined That's... odd. I know this may sound crazy, but i think that number is referring to usage % and not utility %. I know, I know, "tf do I mean usage and not utility" but genuinely those are different stats that can get people confused (including myself, frankly).
On the bottom left of process lasso, you'll see two stats: "% time" and "% utility". I think the % utility stat will be more in line with what you'd expect to see, as that takes into account the scaling of your processor's frequency while gaming.
I have a feeling I might be able to use these numbers to figure out more about what's happening with Tarkov's performance, but for now I'm still learning about their differences. Let me know % utility looks more normal (and also let me know your CPU).
@@klemintime1452 thank you and will take another peak tonight
3080 i710700 16gb ram don’t think my cpu is that good
The CPU and the RAM is probably hurting you there- and upgrading that significantly will require a full mobo replacement, sadly :(
Man I really need the AMD equivalent of this video =/ lol
The second I can, I will. Promise o7
@@klemintime1452 I look forward to it 😀