My great nephew ( his name is Bryan also) killed a man, and when my sister (his grandmother) called to tell me, the very first thing she said was "Sister, are you close by?, I need you, now". She would not tell me over the phone. And 20 minutes later, I was at her house and then we were both crying. Knowing we were going to lose him, and for the victims family. He got life. And 10 days after he was sentenced , my sister just fell over dead. 7 months later our Mother grieved herself to death. People that kill others, don't know what they do to their families. And the victims family. May God rest the souls of Ethan, Xana, Kaylee and Maddie. And wrap every family member in His loving arms.
I'm so sorry to hear how his actions destroyed your family. I'm glad that you brought this up because I also feel for his family. It's a loss that they will have to grieve and process his horrific actions. Not to sound grim but it could happen in anyone's family.
Every little thing this guy ever did in his life now is going to be connected to some personality trait that led to him brutally murdering four people. People have to remember that psychopaths don't necessarily live insanely bizarre lives. Every person on this planet is strange to some degree, it doesn't all lead to homicide.
correct, he is a textbook psychopath sociopath, they 'model' correct behavior majority of people who are different or have mental illness or are homeless etc are NOT violent or murderers this was a doctoral student
In the words of Dr. Robert Block, the former President of the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Adverse childhood experiences are the single greatest unaddressed public health threat facing our nation today." It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
BS People know right from wrong, and there's no excuse for cold blooded murder. A lot of people have troubled or even terrible childhoods, but they don't turn out killing people.
@Gouda Phillipe yup and if prosecutors don’t have solid proof to sway the jurry he’ll walk free. Right now is he attended a party house that he could of attended do to his sister being a neighbor of the victims so his dna can be at the house. Prosecutors better have better proof like dna on the body of the victim rather then in the house
If I ever had some crazy vegan relative show up insisting I bought new pots and pans because they couldn't eat out of anything that had meat previously cooked in it, I'd point them to the nearest Walmart or Target. That's outrageous.
do you know an orthodox Jewish person? They can't eat a dairy item that has ever come in contact or stored with meat, including pots, pans, dishes, cutlery, even refrigerators.
@@MayThereBeWorldPeace i definitely think so. With the other info here like with his eating habits there’s so many ways that can be interpreted. But not shock at something so heinous definitely is telling.
I think so many TH-camrs and hosts like Ashley Banfield should be ashamed of how they dissed the police and put out misinformation about what was going on in the investigation.
i thought news nation was a reputable source… I guess I need to rewatch her coverage..Seems like an odd collection of rejects: Banfield from CourtTV, Cuomo from CNN… just weird
Isn’t it terrible that relatives are calling their own family members “odd” as though that has any relevance whatsoever to anything. Lots of “odd” people in the world. Eccentricity isn’t a bad thing.
If you're assuming he's innocent, then of course you're going to see it as terrible, as it doesn't fit what you want to hear. If everyone said he was a great guy, and he wouldn't hurt a fly, and he had lots of friends defending him, you'd surely be using those responses as some point of reference, but since no one has ever said that, you immediately question any negative responses people have given. You're even willing to chalk it up to him being "eccentric". That's essentially the definition of having a predetermined bias. You won't agree that you have a predetermined bias because that's what you say about anyone who believes he's guilty (prior to trial). Bias works both ways, my friend.
CRIMINALLY INSANITY is very different from INSANITY. This monster will never meet the criteria for a Crimanal Insanity plea. He is evil. He has violated every norm of our culture so he's absolutely insane but CRIMINALLY insane? No. NO. EVIL INSANITY.
No way these 4 were his first victims. I don’t see a person like him who obviously aspired to be a killer/serial killer making his first time a quadruple homicide in a house with 6 people in it. I feel that takes the kind of confidence only gained through experience. I think a lot of things are gonna come out about this guy.
I've been saying this exact thing all along. And I feel even stronger about it now. Your first kill is not going to be a knife against 6 people. He gained confidence somehow. If not, then he was on some serious drugs.
If these two women were really family, they wouldn't be speaking out against a relative who has been accused of murder before he has even gone to trail ... at least let him go to trial and if he's found guilty, then they can squawk ... as it is, they are simply looking for attention which doesn't speak well for their personality either.
San Elliott He mentioned that childhood trauma, especially physical and sexual abuse, IMO, is a factor with them as well, which is common sense to me. I do realise that not all children who were abused go on to murder people, yet many do commit crimes and a lot of survivors can end up too far along the other end of the spectrum. 🙁
@@thesummerland6165 Yes! I have OCD, and it's hard not to feel defensive when I hear these "experts" because then people who don't know much about it will associate it with violence.
Those two surviving room mates and anyone seeing that horror are going to be affected the rest of their lives. Prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏 to all of them. L.E. did an excellent job finding the psycho!!! Justice for the four victims 🙏🙏🙏🙏 and their family and friends.
Imagine their trauma. Besides PTSD, they will live with survivor's guilt. They undoubtedly have driven themselves crazy with self-questioning---Why didn't I hear anything? Why didn't I wake up? Why did I go out drinking? Why wasn't it me instead of them? Plus, when they did wake up, they witnessed a horrific crime scene. They lost four friends all at once. They have been vilified and publicly accused of being involved and being callous. It is trauma upon trauma. They will probably never get over it, but with good support systems they can learn to live with it.
I firmly believe those two living roommates survived, because the killer completely drained himself, killing the other 4 people. I honestly think the killer was completely gassed after such a violent, violent murder of four people.
@@patrickmcgee6917 I think that's a possibility. Most people don't realize the amount of strength and stamina it would take to stab four people to death.
@@patrickmcgee6917 agree... I also believe that k was the last one he killed and she took all the rage he had... He spent all his rage and energy left on that one girl.
I just saw an exclusive interview with one of Bryan's high school friends. He said the parents are the nicest people in the world and that bryan's upbringing was very normal. He said he stopped being friends with bryan because he was a bully.
Most parents have never been parents before so you can’t expect anyone to be great at it right out of the gate. You making judgments on other people says a lot about you. Somebody with a hidden camera will catch you doing something weird one of these days. It may be me and I’ll end your career.
He really didn't know what kind of people they are or what kind of person Bryan was.Narcissist and psychopaths are known for being wolves in sheep's clothing.
"He said the parents are the nicest people in the world" So many adults seem like the nicest people, then years later it comes out they were abusing children and no one knew. I wouldn't put much weight into what Bryan's former friend said.
"Physician, heal thyself" I know a lot of psychologists go into it to understand themselves and their own traumas, I suspect something similar is happening in this case.
@@BigBoogookie Psychologists have the highest suicide rates in equal professions. One) like you wrote, they want to heal themselves, Two) they hear from people who are depressing all day and stories of depression all day, which can be depressing.
One of the weirdest aspects of this is the questionnaire he sent to criminals allegedly for "research." It was requesting a road map for "how to be a serial killer" and get away with it. The ultimate question was how did you feel afterwards? In other words, how will I feel? Apparently these were sent in the Spring or Summer and he used the responses to plot what he was going to do, including victim selection. It's incomprehensible.
I agree 💯. It’s not weird that he did the questionnaire considering his subject area, but the actual questions are weird to me. There was one asking about their getaway from the crime scene, & it just made me feel like he was looking for what they did wrong that got them caught. They really seemed like questions one criminal would ask another in prison. Creepy
The way he writes it he seems to be inviting people to help him how to commit a crime and ways to do this and get away with it, hence people not convicted of a crime can still apply. For someone to be smart he is one dumbass. Now that we know the perp, videos clips of him surfacing show him as odd to me anyway and those eyes like with all killers. I want to know how many responses he got from the questionnaire he submitted on Reddit!!!!!!!!
@@mickeyoshea2035 why are you asking me a question? Looool. The perp they have is a sick mf. I doubt this was his first killings and it come out another unsolved case similar to the Idaho murders and they old women was killed 13th around 3am ish. He wanted ways to kill and how get in and out. He studied criminology and yet left trail, like he would.get away with the crime. He will be glorified for the to come as all killers do. He should have the trial and then don't give him anymore time of day the POS.
Extremely odd questions and questionnaire. I'm surprised the uni of Washington criminology graduate professors and advisors didn't review this questionnaire and get alarmed by it. I know grad students and their advisor professors review what they are doing and critique, very strange unless he was not telling them what he was writing etc.
It's an unfortunate stereotype that small-town police are bumbling rustics, inept and easily confused by matters the big-city guys take in stride. Actually, Idaho--mostly made up of small towns--has a low per capita crime rate. Idaho law enforcement has zero tolerance for criminal behavior. Our DAs, filled with our good, small-town common sense, do not catch and release people who are dangers to the public. Who would you, Ms. Banfield, rather have protecting your town: Sheriff Andy Taylor or George Gascón?
It’s becoming real concerning where people think they know how others SHOULD act after a murder or 911 call or a police interview. We all grieve differently to these different situations. Even people who have had the grief tend to be harsh on people who didn’t act how they think they should. It certainly shows a certain ignorance to those who should really know that’s never been the case.
For example, the way the 911 call seems to have gone down the morning after the murders is not that surprising. Very young women, most likely in shock, really unable to process what they have just seen. Likely to be hysterical in a case like this. Rational behavior comes later. At the time the call was made, not so rational.
Some people just do not know better because they havent been in situations where people grief differently. A cop or detective probably has seen several people reacting differently to a death of a family member, a normal person projects his own grieving style onto other people because they havent seen how people react differently. Of course there is a part of ignorance to it but thats how people are...
@@williamrose7184 I knew a guy who lost a job based on his response to the lost of his wife and marrying her girlfriend just 3 months later. I couldn’t imagine how that put a wrench in their new marriage his sorrow of lost wife plus all his co-workers calling him a murderer. Whereas she died of cancer not a freaking stabbing, it’s that group thinking that ruins us. He was forced to relocate.
When I heard that Bryan and his sister both pursued careers that involved "abnormal psychology," I immediately wondered what their childhoods were like.
many people pursue abnormal psychology bc it piques their interest and they want to be healthcare providers, doesn't make those who treat ill people weird or etc is every oncologist a cancer patient? the profilers etc who helped apprehend him STUDIED ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY as well, without experts well versed in understanding pathology, we would not be able to treat it
Whenever I was studying nursing, I had to study psychology and abnormal psychology as well, there are a lot of health care professionals that work in mental hospitals etc…
Exactly. You'd be numb, and that would show as being calm and matter-of-fact when you spoke to people. What does the reporter want for them to do when she talked to them? Scream and cry?
Not if said person always gave you the creeps, or was known to be irrational, OCD, anything. I have a cousin that if I was told he was a murderer, I wouldn’t be shocked at ALL. It happens.
It’s not “OCD”, it’s about CONTROL. Edit- for those commenting on my using the term “OCD”- I am merely repeating what the aunt said when she shared the story.
Lots of people are vegan for health reasons or because they don't agree with killing animals to eat it or for environmental reasons it doesn't make them ocd or weird it's a lifestyle choice
@@whoswhoo Insisting on brand new cookware when you're just visiting a relative IS a weird thing to do. If you're so fussy about your food preparation that you need to demand an expenditure like that from others, it IS about having control over other people, not about a "healthy lifestyle". I knew a "vegetarian" who would eat hot dogs and hamburgers when he was with friends but insisted on having separate vegetarian meals prepared just for him at all family gatherings. It wasn't about the food. It was about getting away with being a liar and controlling the actions of others with his lies. He died of cancer at age 57 anyway. Maybe from eating too many hot dogs when his mom wasn't looking.
I noticed the eyes. But also he has a very crooked nose. As though it had been broken at some point and not properly fixed. I wonder what that is about.
This guy had issues, but again these types of things do not indicate that he’s a serial killer. Regardless I’m interested to know the connection between him and these 4 people and more importantly why? I hope the family can get justice I still can’t even imagine what they are going through
What a wonderful aunt she must be. Your nephew gets arrested and within 24 hours you're telling the media that he's odd and giving them acute details about his eating habits. Awesome aunt, indeed.
Some of the stuff they bring up is almost insignificant imo , I come from a family where my dad drank every day beat up my mom argued almost daily then I became an alcoholic and a drug addict and had a lot of run ins with the law and I would never do this to another human being
I know. They always bring up the childhood of these killers, but they leave out the hundreds of thousands of other people that's had rough childhoods, but grew up to be normal people who don't kill other people.
People deal with trauma in different ways, some become abusers themselves, just because having a hard childhood didn't turn us into killers doesn't mean it's insignificant to people with anti social personality disorders
@@AFloridaSon It's not a contest! Good lord, where do you people get your fomo? The psychology of a killer is very significant. They all have patterns, some the same because of the personality disorders they share. His psychological profile is how he got caught. Nobody cares about what happened to YOU in life. We do care about this guys history.
Schizophrenia is pretty common as far as mental illness goes. Fortunately most schizophrenics are more danger to themselves than anyone else and usually due to self neglect or self abuse.
I remember a guy named Richard Jewel who was destroyed by the public, but he turned out to be innocent. Let's wait for the trial and the evidence. I mean, that is how our process works.
I am really shocked but relieved that a suspect is apprehended. Honestly seeing that this man is a PhD student, I am stunned. I started a PhD last year in August at Miami, and I can honestly tell you that it's very very tough. You virtually have no time to even think of a vacation or upcoming holidays. Thus to be a PhD student and premeditate murder is unthinkable. This man is just evil evil evil 😈. I can't imagine what his Lecturers must be wondering. Well it's a lesson to us all. You can't tell what's in the heart of man. Glad that Moscow Idaho is getting a sense of justice just like Delphi Indiana(Abigail & Liberty). May GOD Bless you all. Happy New Year 2023
@@davidp5385lol get outta here that's recency bias, he looks like any normal person looks. All killers do if he was in a line up and you were told to pick the killer you wouldn't know.
@@davidp5385 exactly he looks sinister n lucid but when I asked the wh*te ppl how he looked they said “ like a normal guy” THAT IS THE PROBLEM. They don’t Vet their own kind like they would a POC. If you’re wh^te please don’t be offended
Yep family knows. I lived with a malignant sociopath family members antics for 50 years. You have to distance yourself and stay that way. I wouldn't be surprised to hear my family member hurt someone seriously.
The entire nation knew they were searching for a white Hyundai Elantra. And his family surely knew he had one and was a student in WA, right next door to the murders. They had to suspect.
The media and parents of those murdered owe that police department a huge apply…Everyday they’ve been running those police detectives in the dirt for not moving fast enough.
@@AS-qg1xu those parents have been on podcast after podcast and news channel after news channel...Again, that police department needs an apology from the entire media and parents. Everyone on here is a crime detective and knows soooo much....But they've never served a day in their life.
News Nation will talk to damn near anybody about this. I'm waiting for the interview with his garbage man who will tell us all about how "strange" or "odd" his trash was and how he KNEW that there was something wrong with him.
I live here in Idaho. This is a safe state to live in. Pisses me off that this guy came from out of state to murder these four children. The last high profile case we had with multiple murders was the Duncan case back in 05. He came from out of state as well.
I personally have a grandson who before age 5 began to exhibit harmful personality traits. He is my step grandson. I said then to my husband that he would be in prison before age 21. He just graduated high school and has been given every opportunity a child could have but continually is in trouble! Shortly after high school he now has charges of sexual force on a young lady from out of state. Two charges from different girls but one dropped the charges. I pray this other young lady stands strong and sees this through to the end. All he ever gets from his dad and grandmother are slaps on the wrist and protection even at the expense of dad’s and grandmas children-grandchildren. When I spoke to my daughter at the birth of her first and only daughter to never leave him alone with my granddaughter at her age of 5 I was completely put out of her life and the lives of the entire family. She is 11 now and her mother finally called me wanting our relationship back. Saying she wish she had listened to me years ago. He has molested all three of his sisters!!!! Starting on my granddaughter shortly after I was put out of her life! At age 5 my heart broke when hearing that! The damage is now done!!! I can’t change what happened to my innocent granddaughters!! I fight with this demon every day! We have to stop enabling our family at ALL COSTS! Now he is molesting young girls outside the family!! I pray he is found guilty and put where he can never harm another young lady!!!! I think this is common and most families it’s denial denial denial. But denial gets nobody anywhere and keeps nobody safe. In fact it destroys everybody within and without anybody that comes in contact will be negatively affected by this broken person. I still love my grandson but I pray he pays for his crimes! These girls will pay for the rest of their lives so should he! Same with any offender !!!! I pray for his soul but for justice here on this earth. These young ones paid with their lives so be it for their killer! Too much brokenness in this world!!
Totally agree . I had to put a stop to my nephew who is 5 being picked on by this other pscyho 5 year old... parents were pretty weak 'oh he has no one to play with'. I ended up speaking to his school as the thug was in the same class as my nephew..they were helpful Sometimes you need outsiders to help.
There's an episode of Law and Order: SUV where a father killed his psychopathic or sociopathic adopted son for the good of the community but gets sentenced for murder in the 1st anyway b/c you can't legally kill a killer as an individual.
@@atheistbewildered2987 He’s evil . Demon possessed! We wrestle not with flesh and blood But demon, evil spirts and principalities in HIGH places. Only the spirit of Jesus can fight or over come them. We call them psychopaths or narcissist but God calls them possessed .
I truly believe for whatever reason despite having good parents some people for whatever reason are born with issues that go unnoticed by family or maybe they just excuse it and it leads to tragedy. I wonder if this guy has any history of animal abuse. Many killers start on animals. If a child is cruel to animals get that kid help fast.
He got away with 4 murders in the same night. All stabbings. In the same house. How in the world does one even come to achieve that? And to also make sure all were dead? I can’t comprehend
Interesting. In an article posted by NBC, Kohberger is reported as making a Reddit post saying “My name is Bryan, and I am inviting you to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making when committing a crime. In particular, this study seeks to understand the story behind your most recent criminal offense, with an emphasis on your thoughts and feelings throughout your experience.” Makes me wonder if he did his own “experiment” as a motive?
Yeah I saw that creepy Post from Reddit. Bryan really wanted to know if these other Criminals had the same thoughts and feelings that he had. I think he was looking for a Partner in Crime. He probably became friends with one of his little Buddies from the Survey. They have said they were going to study the Papers Bryan wrote in his Criminology Class.
Keep in mind, this man arrested is currently a suspect. Not convicted. If the killer did this just to experience killing another human being, why did he choose to kill those particular victims? Why did he choose to kill so many instead of just killing the most convenient random victim?
Why would you be shocked to the core? The ex-aunts barely knew the guy. He was practically a stranger to them so this has no impact on their lives whatsoever.
An arrest is just first piece of puzzle that will hopefully culminate in a conviction. There is a long way to go and so many things can unfold in next year with this case.
It looks like his nose has been broken before. I wonder if he had a past head injury? Even a concussion can sometime flip a weird switch in peoples brains.
Actually they aren't random. It's quite a fascinating phenomenon. Neuroscientist have seen many examples of this. Maybe he's always been creepy and sick but if family and friends notice that he used to seem normal, then suddenly snapped or changed , that's one cause to look into. Not that it will matter as Idaho does not allow mental issues as a defense
His bio in IG is creepy: "Criminologist studying the absurdity of the human experience. Currently taking a gap year to immerse myself in my field of study.” Immersed himself alright 😶
WTF ??!!!! Bryan posted that on Instagram? Creepy. Sounds like he really hated human beings. So killing the girls would be absolutely nothing to him. It was a Social Experiment gone wrong. Bryan wasn't clever enough by far. He left his DNA at the Crime Scene. He didn't think it through and he didn't clean up after himself. It's easy to fantasize about killing someone. It's much harder to ACTUALLY KILL SOMEONE. Bryan must of forgotten that.
IG disabled his account hours ago. It's probably a fake account you came across. I do wish I watched the whole video he had posted.. I started watching it but I clicked out thinking it too was a fake acct.
This is so disgusting! Are you putting people on who have positive things to say? People not eating meat does not make them a murderer. You have no credibility to me.
Nobody in the family shocked and acted "matter of fact" about the whole thing even though he was mostly normal except for some food concerns... sounds like an entire family of sociopaths to me and one just got loose
No one is in their right mind without the mind of Jesus Christ You know nothing!!! You are NO less guilty than what this person is suspected of being !!! That’s Right a self righteous fool being fooled who can only speak foolishness like the rest of the commentators Man is continuously - wicked and without God in this world 😤
Those food concerns are not concerns at all, and are actually pretty normal. There are literally religions that do the same exact types of things. Just look up kosher eating, because they literally have to have their cookware blessed, and no non kosher foods can touch anything they cook with or eat out of. Not sure how people would call his request strange, because it is actually not strange at all. Would i ever do something like that, no, but do I understand his request for new cookware, yes. I am sure they could find some strange things about the guy, or anybody else, but his cookware request is actually pretty normal. Vegans and vegetarians have request like that, and it is very common. It has gotten so bad that they will not even shop at stores that sell certain products, and have created their own stores. So if his request is strange, then there are millions of others in the country with even stranger request, because lots of people are way worse.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS wow!!! causation, correlation...................YT posters are SO smart, I'm so humbled to be in the presence of people of such high intellect
The autistic “rules” are considered OCD to the public and are more like OCPD. It’s neither OCD or OCPD. Rigid inflexible adherence to self-imposed rules is not uncommon in males with autism. Mass killers are commonly autistic. The public doesnt understand autism or psychopathy.
I have at least two different family members I can think of that I would not be surprised at all if I found out they committed any type of crime, including murder.
I think having your aunt to buy all new cooking tools due to meat ever being cooked in it seems really odd!! I mean who requires that? If I was vegan I'd provide my own food for myself if I was that obsessed with my vaganism.
Sounds more like he likes to push and bully HIS WAY. But in a passive aggressive way . Using his veganism as a springboard for that behavior , and trying to act innocent about it . You're right.. any one would bring their own food & definitely pots & pans instead of putting a demand like that on somebody .
@@goudaphillipe4224 and so... you would probably bring your own pots and pans then too. Knowing what you would be walking into... a meat eaters house. Right? You sure wouldn't ask the homeowner to buy you pots and pans. Vegans come prepared cuz like you said it's your way of life .. always living it everyday , a philosophy . Geez.. crazy how he didn't mind slaughtering 4 people while they slept and blood probably all over him . UGH..😪💔
It's not to take the blame off the criminal for what they did but to try and understand human psychology and what makes people do things and if they can be stopped before they do something bad.
There has to be some evidence in that car. I mean he may have had a tarp over the seat or something like that; but still, he had to be covered in blood top to bottom by the time he left the victim's house.
Yeah,I'm from PA , stuck in VA for past 3 years, and I'm shocked, appalled, that he was in PA. I can't imagine if I knew the murderer, or was a neighbor or a family member. This evil monster is just beyond a normal human
I think most prisoners will be repulsed by him. It's a myth that men are raping each other in prison. Too many are willing to have sex. It can happen but most prisoners aren't rapists and the ones who are almost always raped women.
Did you read the part when the suspect asked if they arrested anyone else? Did he say that because there IS somebody else like one if the people who answered that questionnaire?? I still can't see him doing it alone. Four people and no screams or anyone hear it?
John Wayne Gacey asked the same thing when he was arrested. I think Bryan likely did this as part of the whole plan. After studying crime and criminals most of his life.
@Marie Smith this. It doesn't make sense at all. I can hear neighbors babies cry from across the street. Forget the 2 survivors for a moment. The 4 victims didn't hear each other?
@Marie Smith also, if this is the guy, I thot pd were pointing to some kind of obsessed stalker early on by talking about how popular the girls were & that the threat wasn't at the school.
it's possible. they were sleeping or just gone to sleep - probably very tired. he knew that - knew they were highly likely very easy kills because he's a gutless pos. the murderer alone knows the details.
I'm vegan and I don't want to eat from a pot that had an animal carcass cooking in it. The difference is I don't expect others to cater to me when I'm at their home; I'll just politely decline. This is what the majority of vegans do.
exactly My bf is the same. And he hates killing insects as he walks too. It is quite normal in the vegavveggie commuity there is a spectrum. Just some people have more standards than others. It is not a food fetish either.
food fetish? It's kosher. I was a private chef to a family with a special kosher kitchen, and they kept separate dishes and utensils-one set for dairy, one set for meat, also 2 fridges, sinks and cookware. It's not a fetish smh
Not that I care much but Y'all are taking the word of two women divorced from their husband's and the family like they were talking the gospel. Take it with a grain of salt. Just sayin
So, will law enforcement get an apology from some individuals at News Nation for some of the disrespectful things being said about their competence, or are 'we' just going to blow over that? Now would be a good time to apologise... actually, at least 6 weeks ago would have been a good time to have apologised.
@@jaasynergy8 I agree with everything you have written. Please receive this in the positive sense that I am writing my reply, not having a go... however, the same would apply to not express an opinion against law enforcement, who put their lives on the line, daily, without first knowing the facts of what they are doing while they are following the evidence to find the person(s) responsible for a crime. Not having the facts of the case is one thing, room for speculation abounds, and freedom of speech is where we can go to town when it comes to evaluating what info we have been given, until more facts are made available. When it comes to the investigation side of any case, we 'know nothing' and that is the way it should be. In my opinion, it is not the right thing to do to be disrespectful to law enforcement based on what we do not know, why things 'are taking so long' etc etc. until we get that information IF we would ever get that information. Conclusions about how law enforcement handled a case, after the fact, can then be discussed and critiqued where critique is due... that kind of freedom of speech is what I would consider 'no need to apologize' but to be critical and judgemental without knowing anything about how law enforcement is going about their business, that to me is wrong and warrants an apology. Again, please do not take this reply as 'I am having a go' 🙏🏼
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My great nephew ( his name is Bryan also) killed a man, and when my sister (his grandmother) called to tell me, the very first thing she said was
"Sister, are you close by?, I need you, now".
She would not tell me over the phone. And 20 minutes later, I was at her house and then we were both crying. Knowing we were going to lose him, and for the victims family.
He got life. And 10 days after he was sentenced , my sister just fell over dead.
7 months later our Mother grieved herself to death.
People that kill others, don't know what they do to their families. And the victims family.
May God rest the souls of Ethan, Xana, Kaylee and Maddie. And wrap every family member in His loving arms.
That's so horrible. Sorry that those things happened to you and your family.
So sorry for your loss.
Sorry for so much tragedy and loss in your family
Well said. I’m so sorry your loss & trauma. sending you love, hugs, & prayer. 😘💒
I'm so sorry to hear how his actions destroyed your family. I'm glad that you brought this up because I also feel for his family. It's a loss that they will have to grieve and process his horrific actions. Not to sound grim but it could happen in anyone's family.
Every little thing this guy ever did in his life now is going to be connected to some personality trait that led to him brutally murdering four people.
People have to remember that psychopaths don't necessarily live insanely bizarre lives.
Every person on this planet is strange to some degree, it doesn't all lead to homicide.
You have got to be kidding
correct, he is a textbook psychopath sociopath, they 'model' correct behavior
majority of people who are different or have mental illness or are homeless etc are NOT violent or murderers
this was a doctoral student
@@Timbergal
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@@toejam6941 Wasted a chance to use the classic "Welcome to Good Burger, home of the Good Burger. Can I take your order??" hah
IKR? What can we expect from pathetic media?
Calling it a fetish is rude and it is that disrespect that causes more of these people.
Didn't eat meat, but killed 4 people? Wow...
If true, he may have suffered a choline deficiency, which can affect brain health.
Yes, that pos!
Hitler was a vegetarian
Eat meat. Be happy.
Why would he have a hunting knife? Unless, when he bought he was planning on killing someone!!
In the words of Dr. Robert Block, the former President of the American Academy of Pediatrics, "Adverse childhood experiences are the single greatest unaddressed public health threat facing our nation today."
It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
Agree
VERY true
born like it, already proven, pychos have different brains and it shows up in cat scans
Never too late to have a happy childhood (quoted by many) A help to many also.
BS
People know right from wrong, and there's no excuse for cold blooded murder.
A lot of people have troubled or even terrible childhoods, but they don't turn out killing people.
Sounds like a couple of aunts who love gossiping about a relative they haven't seen in a few years.
Imagine going through all the education just to waste it and most likely spend the rest of your life behind bars. Such an L individual.
Idaho has the death penalty and they are charging him with first degree murder. They want rid the earth of him.
@Gouda Phillipe yup and if prosecutors don’t have solid proof to sway the jurry he’ll walk free. Right now is he attended a party house that he could of attended do to his sister being a neighbor of the victims so his dna can be at the house. Prosecutors better have better proof like dna on the body of the victim rather then in the house
If he's a vegetarian then he will live a good long time.
@@OpeningYugioh I think they found his DNA under the fingernails of the victims hence why they had a strong case for his arrest.
@@OpeningYugioh even if he walks he wont get far
If I ever had some crazy vegan relative show up insisting I bought new pots and pans because they couldn't eat out of anything that had meat previously cooked in it, I'd point them to the nearest Walmart or Target. That's outrageous.
Me too!
do you know an orthodox Jewish person? They can't eat a dairy item that has ever come in contact or stored with meat, including pots, pans, dishes, cutlery, even refrigerators.
I’d order pizza and then never have him over again.
@@flightographist I would never discriminate, I'd send them to Walmart or Target too.
Look like you don't have much social life.
Prayers to all the families. And for what his family will go through. May justice be swift
The most interesting and applicable takeaway from this is that neither aunt seemed particularly shocked. That’s big
Agree 💯%.
No its not. My goodness.
@@MayThereBeWorldPeace i definitely think so. With the other info here like with his eating habits there’s so many ways that can be interpreted. But not shock at something so heinous definitely is telling.
The most interesting and applicable takeaway from the comment section, is stupid statements such as yours.
@Candice Williams what do you think fbi profilers do ?!?!? The same shit we're doing !!
Everyone who publicly accused the ex boyfriend or hoodie guy (including in the comments) owes them a public apology.
Profusely!!! You are so correct
Seriously. Not that it would help anything but all the falsely accused need some serious apologies.
SMUG SHOT! So smug in his mug shot in my opinion.
Yes! I always thought is was hoodie guy. I apologize for speculating that an innocent man looked suspicious and could be a murderer. Sorry Jack S.
so true. ive thought it a stranger all along. no frat boy did this.
Being vegan isn’t a food fetish
I think so many TH-camrs and hosts like Ashley Banfield should be ashamed of how they dissed the police and put out misinformation about what was going on in the investigation.
i thought news nation was a reputable source… I guess I need to rewatch her coverage..Seems like an odd collection of rejects: Banfield from CourtTV, Cuomo from CNN… just weird
Ashley's hot af...I give her a pass
She was really disrespectful many times.
@@Kaylin09 - Indeed!
She and her producers should be, but they will not.
The aunts weren't shocked because they knew he was crazy.
That's probably true 🤣
Because its normal in their family more like
No, it's actually that the aunts are nut jobs, too.
Pretty crazy?
Killing 4 people with a knife would shock anyone
Or knew he was a misfit!
Does everyone just turn against you when you’re accused of something? Family. Friends. My God.
Yes they do! Tragic isn't it!
And what about innocent until proven guilty?
I’m so surprised that this country, USA, is acting like guilty until proven innocent.
The media has already tried him over a dozen times. I would like to know where, in the state of Idaho, are they going to find a fair, unbiased jury.
@@penelopelopez8296 Idaho? More like America. The media has poisoned the populace.
Justice for the victims
I have a feeling he’s not getting new pots and pans in prison
😂
No, but maybe he'll get a lady sheriff to take him on a wild hotel sex spree for a few days ...
He's getting the meats.
great comment
He will receive new boyfriends every day
Justice for the victims 🙏🙏🙏🙏
🙏🙏🙏🙏
why the high fives..!!?
@@mawmaw1985 why the high fives tho. !?
Pretty sure they are praying hands….!
NOT high fives…. However high fives are in Order In “ my opinion!” The killer is behind bars!!!!! 🤨
@@hectorherbert6585 EXCUSE YOU!???
Isn’t it terrible that relatives are calling their own family members “odd” as though that has any relevance whatsoever to anything. Lots of “odd” people in the world. Eccentricity isn’t a bad thing.
no but can be an indicator that they're 'off'
If you're assuming he's innocent, then of course you're going to see it as terrible, as it doesn't fit what you want to hear. If everyone said he was a great guy, and he wouldn't hurt a fly, and he had lots of friends defending him, you'd surely be using those responses as some point of reference, but since no one has ever said that, you immediately question any negative responses people have given. You're even willing to chalk it up to him being "eccentric". That's essentially the definition of having a predetermined bias. You won't agree that you have a predetermined bias because that's what you say about anyone who believes he's guilty (prior to trial). Bias works both ways, my friend.
According to Idaho State Legislature section 18-207 "mental condition is NOT a defense".
GOOD!!!!
CRIMINALLY INSANITY is very different from INSANITY. This monster will never meet the criteria for a Crimanal Insanity plea. He is evil. He has violated every norm of our culture so he's absolutely insane but CRIMINALLY insane? No. NO. EVIL INSANITY.
@@Amsie3 Took the word right out of my mouth 👍👍
@@thequeenofwitches7943 Name them then please. Save us the time ….
No way these 4 were his first victims. I don’t see a person like him who obviously aspired to be a killer/serial killer making his first time a quadruple homicide in a house with 6 people in it. I feel that takes the kind of confidence only gained through experience. I think a lot of things are gonna come out about this guy.
I don’t know about that.This guy is pretty darn crazy.Could have been his first murder.I wouldn’t put anything past this dude.
This is no starter crime!🤓
Why speculate when you have absolutely no idea
@@hmq9052 seriously they’ve been wrongly speculating this whole time and still don’t get the memo to stop it already
I've been saying this exact thing all along. And I feel even stronger about it now. Your first kill is not going to be a knife against 6 people. He gained confidence somehow. If not, then he was on some serious drugs.
If these two women were really family, they wouldn't be speaking out against a relative who has been accused of murder before he has even gone to trail ... at least let him go to trial and if he's found guilty, then they can squawk ... as it is, they are simply looking for attention which doesn't speak well for their personality either.
John Kelly said every serial killer he knows of has ocd or similar traits.... fascinating and heartbreaking
San Elliott He mentioned that childhood trauma, especially physical and sexual abuse, IMO, is a factor with them as well, which is common sense to me.
I do realise that not all children who were abused go on to murder people, yet many do commit crimes and a lot of survivors can end up too far along the other end of the spectrum. 🙁
99 % of people who suffer from ocd are not harmful, it's an anxiety disorder
Yes saw him on Grizzly True Crime
I have never heard of that.
@@thesummerland6165 Yes! I have OCD, and it's hard not to feel defensive when I hear these "experts" because then people who don't know much about it will associate it with violence.
Those two surviving room mates and anyone seeing that horror are going to be affected the rest of their lives. Prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏 to all of them. L.E. did an excellent job finding the psycho!!! Justice for the four victims 🙏🙏🙏🙏 and their family and friends.
They'll never sleep well again.
Imagine their trauma. Besides PTSD, they will live with survivor's guilt. They undoubtedly have driven themselves crazy with self-questioning---Why didn't I hear anything? Why didn't I wake up? Why did I go out drinking? Why wasn't it me instead of them? Plus, when they did wake up, they witnessed a horrific crime scene. They lost four friends all at once. They have been vilified and publicly accused of being involved and being callous. It is trauma upon trauma. They will probably never get over it, but with good support systems they can learn to live with it.
I firmly believe those two living roommates survived, because the killer completely drained himself, killing the other 4 people. I honestly think the killer was completely gassed after such a violent, violent murder of four people.
@@patrickmcgee6917 I think that's a possibility. Most people don't realize the amount of strength and stamina it would take to stab four people to death.
@@patrickmcgee6917 agree... I also believe that k was the last one he killed and she took all the rage he had... He spent all his rage and energy left on that one girl.
I just saw an exclusive interview with one of Bryan's high school friends. He said the parents are the nicest people in the world and that bryan's upbringing was very normal. He said he stopped being friends with bryan because he was a bully.
I doubt it. I'm a nanny. 75% of families don't know what they are doing.
Most parents have never been parents before so you can’t expect anyone to be great at it right out of the gate. You making judgments on other people says a lot about you. Somebody with a hidden camera will catch you doing something weird one of these days. It may be me and I’ll end your career.
He really didn't know what kind of people they are or what kind of person Bryan was.Narcissist and psychopaths are known for being wolves in sheep's clothing.
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
"He said the parents are the nicest people in the world" So many adults seem like the nicest people, then years later it comes out they were abusing children and no one knew. I wouldn't put much weight into what Bryan's former friend said.
I have never met a psych major or psych doctor that isn’t their own kind of weirdo.
"Physician, heal thyself" I know a lot of psychologists go into it to understand themselves and their own traumas, I suspect something similar is happening in this case.
@@BigBoogookie Psychologists have the highest suicide rates in equal professions. One) like you wrote, they want to heal themselves, Two) they hear from people who are depressing all day and stories of depression all day, which can be depressing.
Remember the Amber Heard case with the psych doctor?? Did he seem normal?
@@JennyWinters hahaha. He was definitely not normal. I have gone back to watch him on the stand several times and laugh at his ridiculous faces.
One of the weirdest aspects of this is the questionnaire he sent to criminals allegedly for "research." It was requesting a road map for "how to be a serial killer" and get away with it. The ultimate question was how did you feel afterwards? In other words, how will I feel? Apparently these were sent in the Spring or Summer and he used the responses to plot what he was going to do, including victim selection. It's incomprehensible.
I agree 💯. It’s not weird that he did the questionnaire considering his subject area, but the actual questions are weird to me. There was one asking about their getaway from the crime scene, & it just made me feel like he was looking for what they did wrong that got them caught. They really seemed like questions one criminal would ask another in prison. Creepy
The way he writes it he seems to be inviting people to help him how to commit a crime and ways to do this and get away with it, hence people not convicted of a crime can still apply. For someone to be smart he is one dumbass. Now that we know the perp, videos clips of him surfacing show him as odd to me anyway and those eyes like with all killers. I want to know how many responses he got from the questionnaire he submitted on Reddit!!!!!!!!
@@sean6977 I want to know did he lie about it actually being for academic purposes.
@@mickeyoshea2035 why are you asking me a question? Looool. The perp they have is a sick mf. I doubt this was his first killings and it come out another unsolved case similar to the Idaho murders and they old women was killed 13th around 3am ish. He wanted ways to kill and how get in and out. He studied criminology and yet left trail, like he would.get away with the crime. He will be glorified for the to come as all killers do. He should have the trial and then don't give him anymore time of day the POS.
Extremely odd questions and questionnaire. I'm surprised the uni of Washington criminology graduate professors and advisors didn't review this questionnaire and get alarmed by it. I know grad students and their advisor professors review what they are doing and critique, very strange unless he was not telling them what he was writing etc.
Calling OCD a food fetish is pretty dumb
Sounds more like schizophrenia.
Ashleigh should apologize to law enforcement for all of the BS she has spewed over the last 6 weeks...
It's an unfortunate stereotype that small-town police are bumbling rustics, inept and easily confused by matters the big-city guys take in stride. Actually, Idaho--mostly made up of small towns--has a low per capita crime rate. Idaho law enforcement has zero tolerance for criminal behavior. Our DAs, filled with our good, small-town common sense, do not catch and release people who are dangers to the public. Who would you, Ms. Banfield, rather have protecting your town: Sheriff Andy Taylor or George Gascón?
So hard to watch Ashley! Her questions are crazy
It’s becoming real concerning where people think they know how others SHOULD act after a murder or 911 call or a police interview. We all grieve differently to these different situations. Even people who have had the grief tend to be harsh on people who didn’t act how they think they should. It certainly shows a certain ignorance to those who should really know that’s never been the case.
For example, the way the 911 call seems to have gone down the morning after the murders is not that surprising. Very young women, most likely in shock, really unable to process what they have just seen. Likely to be hysterical in a case like this. Rational behavior comes later. At the time the call was made, not so rational.
These reporters are idiots.
Some people just do not know better because they havent been in situations where people grief differently. A cop or detective probably has seen several people reacting differently to a death of a family member, a normal person projects his own grieving style onto other people because they havent seen how people react differently. Of course there is a part of ignorance to it but thats how people are...
It’s absolutely ridiculous. When I hear people say oh well look at the way he was acting. Oh? Well how should we be acting? Clowns
@@williamrose7184 I knew a guy who lost a job based on his response to the lost of his wife and marrying her girlfriend just 3 months later. I couldn’t imagine how that put a wrench in their new marriage his sorrow of lost wife plus all his co-workers calling him a murderer. Whereas she died of cancer not a freaking stabbing, it’s that group thinking that ruins us. He was forced to relocate.
I don't think this woman knows what the word fetish means.
When I heard that Bryan and his sister both pursued careers that involved "abnormal psychology," I immediately wondered what their childhoods were like.
abnormal psychology lol?
many people pursue abnormal psychology bc it piques their interest and they want to be healthcare providers, doesn't make those who treat ill people weird or etc
is every oncologist a cancer patient? the profilers etc who helped apprehend him STUDIED ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY as well, without experts well versed in understanding pathology, we would not be able to treat it
I would have hurried along the psych department to find out what's wrong with these people.
Maybe because of Mkultra.
Whenever I was studying nursing, I had to study psychology and abnormal psychology as well, there are a lot of health care professionals that work in mental hospitals etc…
How could you not be surprised?!
I’d be numb…
and or throw up...
Exactly. You'd be numb, and that would show as being calm and matter-of-fact when you spoke to people. What does the reporter want for them to do when she talked to them? Scream and cry?
I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone came and told me a certain cousin of mine had killed some people.
Not if said person always gave you the creeps, or was known to be irrational, OCD, anything. I have a cousin that if I was told he was a murderer, I wouldn’t be shocked at ALL. It happens.
@@whimsical_me5135 literally same. I’m expecting it at this point.
Great police work now give this killer the death penality !
It’s not “OCD”, it’s about CONTROL.
Edit- for those commenting on my using the term “OCD”- I am merely repeating what the aunt said when she shared the story.
Excellent point.
You are right, it's like a spoiled rotten kid.
Lots of people are vegan for health reasons or because they don't agree with killing animals to eat it or for environmental reasons it doesn't make them ocd or weird it's a lifestyle choice
There are 18 different kinds of OCD; 4 actually with various subtypes. Regardless, it sounds like he has obsessive tendencies/thinking.
@@whoswhoo Insisting on brand new cookware when you're just visiting a relative IS a weird thing to do. If you're so fussy about your food preparation that you need to demand an expenditure like that from others, it IS about having control over other people, not about a "healthy lifestyle". I knew a "vegetarian" who would eat hot dogs and hamburgers when he was with friends but insisted on having separate vegetarian meals prepared just for him at all family gatherings. It wasn't about the food. It was about getting away with being a liar and controlling the actions of others with his lies. He died of cancer at age 57 anyway. Maybe from eating too many hot dogs when his mom wasn't looking.
His eyes say it all, very sad.
heroine addict.
I noticed the eyes. But also he has a very crooked nose. As though it had been broken at some point and not properly fixed. I wonder what that is about.
When I got initially saw the mug shot, my first reaction was he looks proud. There is no remorse in this mans eyes.
His eyes showed empty dark void
Yep…….. it’s in the eyes.
This guy had issues, but again these types of things do not indicate that he’s a serial killer. Regardless I’m interested to know the connection between him and these 4 people and more importantly why? I hope the family can get justice I still can’t even imagine what they are going through
The Monster doesn't like meat, but totally ok with blood.
Yeah. That's so weird. You would think he would also be repulsed by blood if he didn't eat meat.
Merchant of Venice it is starting to sound like 😂
@@dextermoore278 he would have been.
And blood all over *him? Would have really flipped him out.
If my nephew insisted I buy new pots and pans to cook for him, he'd be going home much thinner.
Hot Soup...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, you would be having bad relationship with his parents. They did for him, I’m sure they would listen to him, not you.
What a wonderful aunt she must be. Your nephew gets arrested and within 24 hours you're telling the media that he's odd and giving them acute details about his eating habits. Awesome aunt, indeed.
Weird aunt for sure.
But that is extremely odd behavior. If you don't want your extremely odd behavior to be known, don't have extremely odd behavior.
Well truth shouldn’t be hidden
They are not biological aunts and are now divorced from these men. They probably knew how weird the family was.
Why would anyone hide his odd behavior? That’s aiding and abetting especially when the police are asking for anything people may know.
Some of the stuff they bring up is almost insignificant imo , I come from a family where my dad drank every day beat up my mom argued almost daily then I became an alcoholic and a drug addict and had a lot of run ins with the law and I would never do this to another human being
I know. They always bring up the childhood of these killers, but they leave out the hundreds of thousands of other people that's had rough childhoods, but grew up to be normal people who don't kill other people.
I think a lot of mental illnesses are genetic. Whole families can be screwed up it's sad
People deal with trauma in different ways, some become abusers themselves, just because having a hard childhood didn't turn us into killers doesn't mean it's insignificant to people with anti social personality disorders
@@AFloridaSon It's not a contest! Good lord, where do you people get your fomo? The psychology of a killer is very significant. They all have patterns, some the same because of the personality disorders they share. His psychological profile is how he got caught. Nobody cares about what happened to YOU in life. We do care about this guys history.
@@tangerinehircine6624 so true
I have a schizophrenic family member. He doesn't have to open his mouth but you still know by his appearance.
He doesn't have schizophrenia.
@@olive3700 But you on the other hand...
Schizophrenia is pretty common as far as mental illness goes. Fortunately most schizophrenics are more danger to themselves than anyone else and usually due to self neglect or self abuse.
@@olive3700 So true. A schizophrenic would not be able to keep their thinking organized enough to complete the education this man has.
@@joymcarthur5429 They can be dangerous and deadly.
I remember a guy named Richard Jewel who was destroyed by the public, but he turned out to be innocent. Let's wait for the trial and the evidence. I mean, that is how our process works.
I’m sure the prison will make sure to make him vegan meals just like he wants 😊
I’m sure he’ll be eating a lot of Dark meat in prison
Nah he gonna get a good daily dose of tube steak!
I hope he enjoys his vegan prison slop. 😂
Haha.....
@@Valco458 and pleeenttttyyy of white meat, buddy
So he didn’t believe in killing animals but believed in killing people? 🧐
I am really shocked but relieved that a suspect is apprehended. Honestly seeing that this man is a PhD student, I am stunned. I started a PhD last year in August at Miami, and I can honestly tell you that it's very very tough. You virtually have no time to even think of a vacation or upcoming holidays. Thus to be a PhD student and premeditate murder is unthinkable. This man is just evil evil evil 😈. I can't imagine what his Lecturers must be wondering. Well it's a lesson to us all. You can't tell what's in the heart of man.
Glad that Moscow Idaho is getting a sense of justice just like Delphi Indiana(Abigail & Liberty).
May GOD Bless you all.
Happy New Year 2023
Love to hear some interviews from his teachers.
You Don't lecture if you don't have your doctorate yet..
@@davidp5385lol get outta here that's recency bias, he looks like any normal person looks. All killers do if he was in a line up and you were told to pick the killer you wouldn't know.
We are Not our Titles We are flawed human beings. Judge accou
@@davidp5385 exactly he looks sinister n lucid but when I asked the wh*te ppl how he looked they said “ like a normal guy” THAT IS THE PROBLEM. They don’t Vet their own kind like they would a POC. If you’re wh^te please don’t be offended
Yep family knows. I lived with a malignant sociopath family members antics for 50 years. You have to distance yourself and stay that way. I wouldn't be surprised to hear my family member hurt someone seriously.
Thank you Ashleigh !! Blessings for the new year 💕
Maybe the aunts suspected or heard family talk that he might've been involved in other crimes. This could explain their demeanors.
I doubt it if one is now divorced.
Basically the aunts doesn’t know anything because this was a waste of conversation
they are ex's and I find their disinterest to be in itself, sad and revealing.
@@leelaural Well said.
The entire nation knew they were searching for a white Hyundai Elantra. And his family surely knew he had one and was a student in WA, right next door to the murders. They had to suspect.
The media and parents of those murdered owe that police department a huge apply…Everyday they’ve been running those police detectives in the dirt for not moving fast enough.
No they don't. The parents were right and the FBI LAB solved it not local LE.
*apology
Of course. Our society always wants instant gratification. Humble yourselves.
@Chance Cooper. I agree with you 100 percent. Media and Kylee's dad in particular were so rude trashing the police.
@@AS-qg1xu those parents have been on podcast after podcast and news channel after news channel...Again, that police department needs an apology from the entire media and parents. Everyone on here is a crime detective and knows soooo much....But they've never served a day in their life.
That's not at all what a fetish is. What idiotic reporting.
News Nation will talk to damn near anybody about this. I'm waiting for the interview with his garbage man who will tell us all about how "strange" or "odd" his trash was and how he KNEW that there was something wrong with him.
I live here in Idaho. This is a safe state to live in. Pisses me off that this guy came from out of state to murder these four children. The last high profile case we had with multiple murders was the Duncan case back in 05. He came from out of state as well.
he lived 8 miles across the line, not as if he was far away
Washington isn’t sending their brightest
@@thesummerland6165 but he was only a student. He didn’t grow up there.
What a stupid comment.
Please. As if your state was chosen by God for its purity. Get real.
I personally have a grandson who before age 5 began to exhibit harmful personality traits. He is my step grandson. I said then to my husband that he would be in prison before age 21.
He just graduated high school and has been given every opportunity a child could have but continually is in trouble! Shortly after high school he now has charges of sexual force on a young lady from out of state. Two charges from different girls but one dropped the charges. I pray this other young lady stands strong and sees this through to the end. All he ever gets from his dad and grandmother are slaps on the wrist and protection even at the expense of dad’s and grandmas children-grandchildren.
When I spoke to my daughter at the birth of her first and only daughter to never leave him alone with my granddaughter at her age of 5 I was completely put out of her life and the lives of the entire family. She is 11 now and her mother finally called me wanting our relationship back. Saying she wish she had listened to me years ago. He has molested all three of his sisters!!!! Starting on my granddaughter shortly after I was put out of her life! At age 5 my heart broke when hearing that! The damage is now done!!! I can’t change what happened to my innocent granddaughters!! I fight with this demon every day! We have to stop enabling our family at ALL COSTS! Now he is molesting young girls outside the family!! I pray he is found guilty and put where he can never harm another young lady!!!!
I think this is common and most families it’s denial denial denial. But denial gets nobody anywhere and keeps nobody safe. In fact it destroys everybody within and without anybody that comes in contact will be negatively affected by this broken person. I still love my grandson but I pray he pays for his crimes! These girls will pay for the rest of their lives so should he! Same with any offender !!!! I pray for his soul but for justice here on this earth. These young ones paid with their lives so be it for their killer! Too much brokenness in this world!!
Totally agree . I had to put a stop to my nephew who is 5 being picked on by this other pscyho 5 year old... parents were pretty weak 'oh he has no one to play with'. I ended up speaking to his school as the thug was in the same class as my nephew..they were helpful Sometimes you need outsiders to help.
There's an episode of Law and Order: SUV where a father killed his psychopathic or sociopathic adopted son for the good of the community but gets sentenced for murder in the 1st anyway b/c you can't legally kill a killer as an individual.
This is called psychopathy
@@atheistbewildered2987
He’s evil . Demon possessed!
We wrestle not with flesh and blood
But demon, evil spirts and principalities in HIGH places.
Only the spirit of Jesus can fight or over come them. We call them psychopaths or narcissist but God calls them possessed .
I truly believe for whatever reason despite having good parents some people for whatever reason are born with issues that go unnoticed by family or maybe they just excuse it and it leads to tragedy. I wonder if this guy has any history of animal abuse. Many killers start on animals. If a child is cruel to animals get that kid help fast.
He looks troubled, odd.
If he wasn't arrested you would think he looks like a normal person. The fact that he was arrested is distorting your views.
The eyes....
Agree, it's his blank stare, his nose looks like it's been broken badly a few times since his grad photo.
@@jayt4465 Dunno about that; he looks like a psycho to me
You only saying that because of what he did. There’s plenty of weird lookin people on earth, he looks pretty normal if you subtract the bias
So he won't eat/kill animals but he slaughtered 4 people...?
Double standards is the norm there
Him claiming to be vegan is just part of his manipulations as a narcissistic psychopath.
He said, she said....nothing of importance.
These messed up families make messed up people. Just going by what we know so far 😞
The aunts say the family was odd but they married into the family. 🤔
You don't find that stuff out til after you marry into it
I think my in laws are odd.
True, true
Well , when someone gets past the used part and takes you to the Moon... you stick around for that long ride back .
Everyone's normal until you get close to them!
He got away with 4 murders in the same night. All stabbings. In the same house. How in the world does one even come to achieve that? And to also make sure all were dead? I can’t comprehend
And...with others in the house!🤔
Werent they all sorta drun ??? Hmmmm
I suspect he had a grudge against one or more of the victims, possibly rejection, ridicule, or dissing.
Interesting.
In an article posted by NBC, Kohberger is reported as making a Reddit post saying “My name is Bryan, and I am inviting you to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making when committing a crime. In particular, this study seeks to understand the story behind your most recent criminal offense, with an emphasis on your thoughts and feelings throughout your experience.”
Makes me wonder if he did his own “experiment” as a motive?
I gasped when I read that, too. Jaw dropping!
Yeah I saw that creepy Post from Reddit. Bryan really wanted to know if these other Criminals had the same thoughts and feelings that he had. I think he was looking for a Partner in Crime. He probably became friends with one of his little Buddies from the Survey. They have said they were going to study the Papers Bryan wrote in his Criminology Class.
It has been determined that he was not paid by anyone else?
Keep in mind, this man arrested is currently a suspect. Not convicted.
If the killer did this just to experience killing another human being, why did he choose to kill those particular victims? Why did he choose to kill so many instead of just killing the most convenient random victim?
Creepy as hell.
Why would you be shocked to the core? The ex-aunts barely knew the guy. He was practically a stranger to them so this has no impact on their lives whatsoever.
He has very scary eyes. He definitely fits the serial killer’s profile
Your eyes scream poverty
An arrest is just first piece of puzzle that will hopefully culminate in a conviction. There is a long way to go and so many things can unfold in next year with this case.
That’s not a "fetish" 🙄
It looks like his nose has been broken before. I wonder if he had a past head injury? Even a concussion can sometime flip a weird switch in peoples brains.
Yep frontal lobe
Omg these are such random ideas people are expressing.
Actually they aren't random. It's quite a fascinating phenomenon. Neuroscientist have seen many examples of this. Maybe he's always been creepy and sick but if family and friends notice that he used to seem normal, then suddenly snapped or changed , that's one cause to look into. Not that it will matter as Idaho does not allow mental issues as a defense
I noticed his nose is very crooked as though it had previously been broken and not properly fixed.
If he was a Vegan that will explain his brain damage.
His bio in IG is creepy:
"Criminologist studying the absurdity of the human experience. Currently taking a gap year to immerse myself in my field of study.”
Immersed himself alright 😶
WTF ??!!!! Bryan posted that on Instagram? Creepy. Sounds like he really hated human beings. So killing the girls would be absolutely nothing to him. It was a Social Experiment gone wrong. Bryan wasn't clever enough by far. He left his DNA at the Crime Scene. He didn't think it through and he didn't clean up after himself. It's easy to fantasize about killing someone. It's much harder to ACTUALLY KILL SOMEONE. Bryan must of forgotten that.
Sounds like Dexter.
Sounds like a lost atheist. A stubborn smart a hole that refused to acknowledge our loving creator & had zero moral compassion. Prayers to the family.
Says it all
IG disabled his account hours ago. It's probably a fake account you came across. I do wish I watched the whole video he had posted.. I started watching it but I clicked out thinking it too was a fake acct.
This is so disgusting! Are you putting people on who have positive things to say? People not eating meat does not make them a murderer. You have no credibility to me.
I can’t unsee the crazy in his eyes
Nobody in the family shocked and acted "matter of fact" about the whole thing even though he was mostly normal except for some food concerns... sounds like an entire family of sociopaths to me and one just got loose
There is a strong genetic component to schizotypal disorders
No one is in their right mind without the mind of Jesus Christ
You know nothing!!!
You are NO less guilty than what this person is suspected of being !!!
That’s Right
a self righteous fool being fooled who can only speak foolishness like the rest of the commentators
Man is continuously - wicked and without God in this world
😤
Those food concerns are not concerns at all, and are actually pretty normal. There are literally religions that do the same exact types of things. Just look up kosher eating, because they literally have to have their cookware blessed, and no non kosher foods can touch anything they cook with or eat out of. Not sure how people would call his request strange, because it is actually not strange at all. Would i ever do something like that, no, but do I understand his request for new cookware, yes. I am sure they could find some strange things about the guy, or anybody else, but his cookware request is actually pretty normal. Vegans and vegetarians have request like that, and it is very common. It has gotten so bad that they will not even shop at stores that sell certain products, and have created their own stores. So if his request is strange, then there are millions of others in the country with even stranger request, because lots of people are way worse.
They weren't blood related.
Something wrong is in this family.
Schizophrenia often strikes in the early 20s. It has to be considered.
Well he’s gonna hate prison food
He’s gonna learn the hard way you don’t get special food orders in the big house.
@@GeorgeDubya43 exactly mr president
That prison bologna is such high quality.
Wonder if "Bubba" is vegan?
OCD does NOT make you violent or more likely to hurt people. Some violent people may also have OCD, but that does not mean OCD made them violent.
OCK = killing
Exactly, causation vs. correlation. Like saying herb is a gateway drug when 99% of people have smoked herb but only 1% go on to meth.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS wow!!! causation, correlation...................YT posters are SO smart, I'm so humbled to be in the presence of people of such high intellect
@@jeffreydahmerismyfavorites1831 nah, logic 101... elementary watson
The autistic “rules” are considered OCD to the public and are more like OCPD. It’s neither OCD or OCPD. Rigid inflexible adherence to self-imposed rules is not uncommon in males with autism. Mass killers are commonly autistic. The public doesnt understand autism or psychopathy.
How can you not be surprised? Ugh!
I have at least two different family members I can think of that I would not be surprised at all if I found out they committed any type of crime, including murder.
@@whimsical_me5135 oh wow! That's sad.
I think having your aunt to buy all new cooking tools due to meat ever being cooked in it seems really odd!! I mean who requires that? If I was vegan I'd provide my own food for myself if I was that obsessed with my vaganism.
Sounds more like he likes to push and bully HIS WAY. But in a passive aggressive way . Using his veganism as a springboard for that behavior , and trying to act innocent about it . You're right.. any one would bring their own food & definitely pots & pans instead of putting a demand like that on somebody .
Vaganism is a love of vaginas. Nothing to do with eating meat.
Unless you're very naughty
@@goudaphillipe4224 and so... you would probably bring your own pots and pans then too. Knowing what you would be walking into... a meat eaters house.
Right? You sure wouldn't ask the homeowner to buy you pots and pans.
Vegans come prepared cuz like you said it's your way of life .. always living it everyday , a philosophy . Geez.. crazy how he didn't mind slaughtering 4 people while they slept and blood probably all over him .
UGH..😪💔
Vegans don't share cookware. The meat leaches into the vegan food. I was vegan for a couple years.
@@goudaphillipe4224my daughter is vegan and she provides her own meal. She does not make demands on her hosts.
This is getting to be ridiculous
I’m tired of people blaming stuff on childhood traumas. If you do something like this you are demonic and evil. Plain and simple.
It's not to take the blame off the criminal for what they did but to try and understand human psychology and what makes people do things and if they can be stopped before they do something bad.
Well, I'm tried of people blaming mental illness on some fake god or devil!! So we're even...
not necessarily. extreme abuse can twist you and snap you mentally into something else
Wouldn’t eat out of pans that cooked meat but slaughtered 4 beautiful humans. That’s F’ed up!
You guys are are becoming ridiculous. My neighbor is saying that he once saw the suspect jogging. He's waiting for your crew for a TV interview.
It's really great they found the bloody elantra
There has to be some evidence in that car. I mean he may have had a tarp over the seat or something like that; but still, he had to be covered in blood top to bottom by the time he left the victim's house.
@@joymcarthur5429 for sure
Yeah,I'm from PA , stuck in VA for past 3 years, and I'm shocked, appalled, that he was in PA. I can't imagine if I knew the murderer, or was a neighbor or a family member. This evil monster is just beyond a normal human
The New York Post in the Past Year great work
His parents were in denial, throw away the key
Any patents would… they were not in it.
@@jacknguyen5677 I agree
He is going to be choking down a lot of meat in the slammer.
I think most prisoners will be repulsed by him. It's a myth that men are raping each other in prison. Too many are willing to have sex. It can happen but most prisoners aren't rapists and the ones who are almost always raped women.
The eyes are the window to the soul. You can see the evil.
No you can't.
@@olive3700 your perception is off. It's okay
Exactly, so true he has the same crazy shark eyes of a cold blooded murderer like Ted Bundy.....
This is a gift that was given to us from God; stay away!
VERY TRUE and Olive, yes you can.
Wow this is so rude and intrusive! Do we have a right to slander an entire family?
Time to look at him for any cold cases where ever he travaled to.
There were so many potential suspects that my head hurt.
And look how many of them did it... All that harassment and energy wasted on innocent people. Like a witch hunt.
take a panadol
With aunts like this you don't need enemies
Proof that having a PhD doesn’t mean you’re intelligent 😢
Absolutely
He was just starting a PhD program.
I would add being intelligent (not saying he is) is not indicative of being peaceful (non violent). Or do you mean because he was caught?
I disagree, he is intelligent killer.
He may be intelligent per any standardized test.
Did you read the part when the suspect asked if they arrested anyone else? Did he say that because there IS somebody else like one if the people who answered that questionnaire?? I still can't see him doing it alone. Four people and no screams or anyone hear it?
John Wayne Gacey asked the same thing when he was arrested. I think Bryan likely did this as part of the whole plan. After studying crime and criminals most of his life.
he's probably pretty smart---I think he said it because he is already working on his I am not guilty story
@Marie Smith this. It doesn't make sense at all. I can hear neighbors babies cry from across the street. Forget the 2 survivors for a moment. The 4 victims didn't hear each other?
@Marie Smith also, if this is the guy, I thot pd were pointing to some kind of obsessed stalker early on by talking about how popular the girls were & that the threat wasn't at the school.
it's possible. they were sleeping or just gone to sleep - probably very tired. he knew that - knew they were highly likely very easy kills because he's a gutless pos. the murderer alone knows the details.
Proverbs 4:23
"Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it."
I don't think any family upbringing is a reason or excuse to kill 4 people.
I'm vegan and I don't want to eat from a pot that had an animal carcass cooking in it. The difference is I don't expect others to cater to me when I'm at their home; I'll just politely decline. This is what the majority of vegans do.
exactly My bf is the same. And he hates killing insects as he walks too. It is quite normal in the vegavveggie commuity there is a spectrum. Just some people have more standards than others. It is not a food fetish either.
food fetish? It's kosher. I was a private chef to a family with a special kosher kitchen, and they kept separate dishes and utensils-one set for dairy, one set for meat, also 2 fridges, sinks and cookware. It's not a fetish smh
Family is relieved they don't have to buy new Pots, Pans and plates.
His eyes are creepy
I don't think you're using the word "fetish" correctly
Not that I care much but Y'all are taking the word of two women divorced from their husband's and the family like they were talking the gospel. Take it with a grain of salt. Just sayin
So, will law enforcement get an apology from some individuals at News Nation for some of the disrespectful things being said about their competence, or are 'we' just going to blow over that? Now would be a good time to apologise... actually, at least 6 weeks ago would have been a good time to have apologised.
@@jaasynergy8 I agree with everything you have written. Please receive this in the positive sense that I am writing my reply, not having a go... however, the same would apply to not express an opinion against law enforcement, who put their lives on the line, daily, without first knowing the facts of what they are doing while they are following the evidence to find the person(s) responsible for a crime. Not having the facts of the case is one thing, room for speculation abounds, and freedom of speech is where we can go to town when it comes to evaluating what info we have been given, until more facts are made available. When it comes to the investigation side of any case, we 'know nothing' and that is the way it should be. In my opinion, it is not the right thing to do to be disrespectful to law enforcement based on what we do not know, why things 'are taking so long' etc etc. until we get that information IF we would ever get that information. Conclusions about how law enforcement handled a case, after the fact, can then be discussed and critiqued where critique is due... that kind of freedom of speech is what I would consider 'no need to apologize' but to be critical and judgemental without knowing anything about how law enforcement is going about their business, that to me is wrong and warrants an apology. Again, please do not take this reply as 'I am having a go' 🙏🏼