Meguiar's M27 Pro Hybrid Ceramic Sealant Versus Turtle Wax Seal N Shine!!
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ADVANCED SI02 FORMULA: Hybrid Ceramic Si02 sealant provides our most durable professional sealant to date USE ON PAINT OR PAINT PROTECTION FILM: Incredible gloss, slickness & beading on paint & Paint Protection Film NON-STAINING SEALANT: Won’t stain trim or decals EASY TO USE: Can be used in sun and very easy to wipe off OPTIONAL SIZES: Available in a 16 oz squeeze bottle or 1 gallon size
Meguiar's M27 Pro Sealant.....www.amazon.com...
Turtle Wax Seal N Shine......www.amazon.com...
Availability at your local retailer and online early 2020
Meguiar’s M27 Hybrid Ceramic Sealant is an advanced formulation uniquely tailored to deliver a professional strength liquid sealant that offers the best Hybrid Ceramic technology available. With a true Si02 foundation, this ceramic hybrid sealant is formulated to deliver outstanding durability in an extremely easy to use format. It can be applied by hand or by dual action polisher like a sealant, but it allows for longer curing time before wiping off so it can be applied to the entire vehicle before removing. This all-new formula was engineered from the ground up, delivering a brilliant gloss and slickness and can be applied as an extremely durable stand-alone sealant or applied over another wax, sealant or Paint Protection Film for additional protection. Not only is it very easy to use and wipe off, but it’s also safe on plastic trim & decals without leaving behind any stains or white residue. Meguiar’s M27 Hybrid Ceramic Sealant is available in 16 ounce and 1 gallon sizes.
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I have some graphene coatings and sealants coming to the channel soon....stay tuned!!
where can i buy grahpene coatings?
Can't wait! Would like to see what the graphene hype is all about.
Look forward to it B!👍
Yes!!! Looking forward to the apex deep dive on them!
Sweet
I’m locked up in my house because of the Coronavirus, but watching your videos anytime of day makes me happy 😃
Seal and Shine still hanging tough. Even with products developed after it's been in stores for over a year. That's impressive.
Sheets vs Beads. I'm glad Larry @ AmmoNYC is making chemicals with sheeting capabilities. I want the water off, not beads of dust with blazing sun beating down on my paint.
I'm not the only one to see that. As far as the chemical test, I'd give that the M27. Seal and Shine beaded the water as it stuck to the paint. Allowed to dry, you'd get water spots. The water did not stick on the M27 side (as it did on Seal and Shine) and instead it was slick enough that it rolled off. Once it was hit with the leaf blower you could also see that they both blew off just as easy.
Ever since all these videos of guys doing these tests started popping up on youtube everybody wanted water beading. I always thought to myself, why the heck do you want water droplets sitting on your hood? Kind of defeats the purpose of it all. How is beading rejecting water, it is just sitting their but now it is in nice artistic droplets. I want that water off as soon as it hits the panel. Definitely sheeting is the way for me I want that nasty road rain water off my hood ASAP not in dumb little droplets. I'm starting to think they just have a beading fetish.
@@carlosb1 because in a real world when you wash your car you dry it asap and not stay there waiting for water spots. And btw, most of those beading coatings end up sheeting with time.
I just bought the Meg's last week and absolutely love it as do my customers
Interesting to see the seal n shine fighting off the surfactors before you even reset the panel. These videos are 2nd-to-none. Looking forward to more awesome videos man.
The fact that turtle wax picks up gloss after you wash it is something I would have not guessed.. Thanks for the videos. I've leaned more from you about detailing than anyone. Your honest no BS reviews and explanations are why your the best
I appreciate all that Greg, i am always happy to inform and entertain. Hope you are staying safe and healthy. Ill be pumping out the vids. Stay tuned!
TW has really stepped up their game for the past few years. You just can't beat it for the price.
Just wished it smelled better!
My dad has used and still uses Turtle Wax products for at least 30+ years..he will never change. He ragged on me for using Meguiars wax.
@@rosskrause3926 meguiars passes the smell test for sure but within the last year TW has truly stepped up their game and in my opinion has surpassed Meguiars product line. Pound for pound and for the money meaning what you get for what you pay TW hands down over meguiars. And I was a meguiars guy for about 15 years. I'm TW now for sure! My dad liked the old hard shell TW back in the day 30 years ago but I felt that over the years TW was stagnant. Not any more. They are now truly playing for keeps👍🏼
@@gabevillarreal96 Yep..as soon as all the pollen in the air here in far East Texas blows away I will be doing the TW S N SHINE..can't wait !
@@rosskrause3926 What part if east texas? I played football at Trinity Valley in Athens for 2 years 1995-1996. I'm from deep south Texas. Port Isabel/South Padre Island. I've lived in Tennessee for 23 years now. I just put 2 coats of seal n shine and ice spray wax on my entire car yesterday and 4 coats on the hood! I have a 2016 Accord Coupe EXL V6 white orchid pearl and today it was a hazy shade of yellow with all the pollen. Getting storms tonight though so it will get a good rinse.
Good product...but I would grab Seal N Shine for a fraction of the price.
Brian thank you for continuing to make content through this mess. It's hard to find content not related to the virus
Seal N Shine has been my #1 for about a year and a half! Pound for pound meaning what you get for what you pay it's the best on the market. There are definitely other products that gloss better are slicker and the like but as far as durability longevity ease of use and price point....it simply cant be beat. I also like fusso coat. And Rejex.
makes me wonder why we dont just stick with retail lines that perform at a high level?!
If it performs I'll use it.
$ value for results is my 1st priority. Seal N Shine takes the win in my personal opinion.
@MR. GALLARDO Not sure how your comment reply is relevant to the subject of this video or my own comment? I use 303 Aerospace Automotive Protectant for trim. Once again I find it to be an excellent value for my needs.
I would like to step up my $ value game and start using TEC 582 Technicians Choice Ceramic Detail Spray on all exterior/interior however I haven't mustered the confidence in 1 product to buy a gallon of any detail product thus far.
What do you use/recommend sir?
@MR. GALLARDO Yes'ir the followers of this channel are fully aware you should wash your car with a PH neutral soap before applying a sealant/wax. I use Car Pro Reset Soap because the dilution ratio recommend is much lower (1.76 ounces : 5 gallons) vs. my previous product of choice Ice Snow Foam which despite being less expensive per ounce initially has a dilution ratio recommend of (1-3 ounces : 1 gallon). This channel and its followers do rigorous testing of product results over time in real world situations to support the claims of usable sealant/wax life spans. Most of us are greedy about superior results so I doubt any of us are actually waiting the full term of use before stripping and reapplying any products in my opinion anyhow. Lol
I think I’m sticking with my seal n shine for a while.
Brian, kudos from Texas and watching this vid made me forget for a brief few minutes about the chaos going on and I want to say THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I have to agree with the comments and nods to Seal N Shine what else can be said about this amazing priced and performing product. I just used the new Turtle Wax hybrid solutions ceramic polish on my 02 dark Navy blue metallic Trans Am and followed it up with Seal N Shine and the car looks absolutely amazing. I'm a Turtle Wax customer for life now.
I’m using seal n shine as a base, and dry after washing with technicians choice. The shine and feel of that truck is unbelievable! Goes through a rain shower like a greased suppository.
I applied seal n shine in the fall and after 6 commercial car washes over this winter, it still beads after every rain storm here in Ohio.
Seal N Shine rocks again.. Easy to apply, easy to maintain and easy on the pocket.
TW SNS is easily the best consumer grade car sealant on the market right now.
@Shane Haggart Wish I was so I could get my hands on some free TW products :)
Plz don't expose me man otherwise TW will fire me.
HAHAHAHAHA
Does chemical resistance = longevity though?
Most cars are not subjected to harsh chemicals. I wonder which one would last longer when subjected to weather, everyday wear, and old father time.
Amazing video! Thanks for the upload. Need to see a video like this with the Turtle Wax Ceramic Spray
Amazing insight with the gloss meter readings at the end Brian - I always learn something new from you.
Definitely prefer sheeting considering my crystal black paint color is never ideal for water spots
M27 still my go to everyday.
When applied , ill do an iron decon, and or single stage polish if needed then paint prep to remove residues or waxes left over leaving paint completely stripped and ready for a sealant that way it is able to completely bond and seal then I want to see this test 🙃
I put 2 coats of Meguiar's Ultimate Finish on my car every spring and every fall. Every month I apply a coat of Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detailer and my car beads water and has a nice deep shine all year long. You don't have to go crazy or spend tons of money to make your car look good!!
Gotta love those TW products! Inexpensive and long term effectiveness!?
Hello got a question. I compounded and ceramic coated my car(gyeon syncro 3layer mohs + 1layer skin). Got 2 question. 1- I have some holograms left under the hood, so can I do a local compounding, remove the coating and the hologram and then coat that part again?// 2- I have some stone chips on the front bumper but I coated them too what to do against them? Can I just apply chip fix on them while they are been covered by ceramic coating? Thanks.
I'd love to see the Polish Angel Rain in a durability test. In the winter I use a de icing washer fluid with alcohol to avoid frosting and freezing and I'd like to know if the 9h would last at all with that!!
Thanks for this test.
Its a little disappointing the Meguiar's didn't hang on longer or beat Seal N Shine while it is supposed to be an ultra durable SiO2 Sealant. Would have probably benefited with more SiO2 content, specially given the price.
Seal N Shine seems to be ahead of its time.
Seal n shine "Wow"
Nice to know👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks again Brian...
A little (lol) seal and shine story... I bought a bottle right when it came out..around January sometime last year.. if i remember.. I applied it to half two of my house windows (north facing) for testing purposes only 😁.. It preformed extremely well.. it is still going strong although I wanted to test the new TW Hybrid Solutions ceramic spray on the glass... so I grabbed a bottle of super clean to clean off the remaining seal and shine.. nope.. didn't work.. went for a can of Stoner Tarminator... nope....clayed and bladed....although hurting pretty badly.. still protected..started to rain.. beading nicely...I will try Dawn🤷🏼♂️ when it dries up a bit.. but starting to think I should just reapply the seal and shine and forget about the TW ceramic spray😟🧐🤣🤯
Seal and Shine is the real deal people!!
You forgot to throw the kitchen sink! Man that stuff will just not go away.😅
@@chavezcustomdetailing9540 lol yep😁
would you guys apply Seal & Shine before waxing a car or after waxing a car?
Good Day Mate before.
@@gooddaymate1171 I use it "as" the wax😎👍🏻
What product is recommended as exhibiting the best “sheeting” action? I would prefer sheeting...I live in Florida and my vehicle is black, so water drys/spots very quickly.
In my experience Meguiars Ultimate liquid wax did an excellent job at sheeting tha water. It lasts a good strong month and a half with prepped paint. Meguiars NXT did a good job as well!
I have been using jescar power lock for a while now because I have my business in Arizona where it doesn’t rain much, maybe I will try out this turtle wax sealant for fun to try something different.
Can’t believe seal and shine is that good compare it with colinite I did 3 coats the other day im sure I was wrong first jet seal second seal and shine and for last colinite the shine and water repellent is Unbelievable and the color popped so good that all the people get my attention when im driving on the streets was that possible a good combination?
I just ordered the seal n shine after watching all your videos on it. No regrets, can't wait to try it. It is pricey in my country though. 90 Malaysian Ringgit (MYR) = 20 USD
Like to see put a spreadsheet on gloss improvement % and how many rounds each product made it through the traffic road spray as bring in new products for testing. Thanks Brian for another great video.
Thanks for the information. You should consider testing Wowo's Crystal Sealant. It's been available here in the UK for a few years but now is available over the pond too. Very strong.
Seal and shine for the win! Well done video. Noticed the heated areas never appeared different from the rest of the panels.
can m27 pro sealant be applied first followed by turtle wax seal n shine?
Another one, I don't think there is vs. out there. So between PolySeal and Sean N Shine, your pick would be?
Seal n shine
I was going to coat my car in the Spring (not decided light/full strength) but, honestly, after everything I see, I may as well just lightly machine and pop on some S&S every now and again.
I agree about water sheeting. What is your opinion on the best sheeting sealant ?
Dave Dave wondering the same! I have used jescar powerlock and it’s both beads and sheets
Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze
Great video as always Brian. Thanks for your time
Brian, How long do you keep your test panels? On average, what kind of work/tests do you do on them?
Can you use these together as layers?
Also turtle ceramic spray and their seal and shine. Can they be topped together?
Great test. TW Seal and Shine is a fantastic product and what a bargain price.
WOW! Not the way I thought this would go. Do you think the Maguire's would hold up better if it had a base coat of the Hybrid wax? Or are these particular products made to be applied to bare paint? Also, I really like your channel and really appreciate you competing a "Life like" torcher test vice other channels who use ridiculous chemicals to see if the product holds up. Thanks!
Seal n shine is really durable but i cant apply it properly, i tried every way, my car has black paint its always streaky and hard to remove.
Its streaky for me too, but on white car! I prefer liquid sealant after ton of "newest" spray sealant like this or meguiars hcw.
Hello friend greeting good job! a question? how much curing time should be expected when applying the base acrylic sealer wax! to apply the second hand
I think the best chemical test would be sprinkler water or well water. Which product would hold the best up to that stuff?
What's the deal with super high carnauba content show-car waxes. Do they actually provide that much of a gloss difference compared to a coating to justify charging hundreds to thousands per jar?
Glad I picked up TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating for $15 last week rather than wait for this Meguiar's Ceramic Sealant to hit the market. More money for for the Meguiars for less performance.
The ceramic spray coating was pitted against seal and shine on this channel..... It lost against SnS
@@obliviondio Sorry, but you are wrong. It never was pitted against Seal n' Shine, Brian tested it on his own (where he says it outlasted SnS in the durability testing) and gave his thoughts on it (saying he liked it better).
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Also, Turtle Wax put out a video with a direct head to head comparison between the two, and the Ceramic Spray Coating came out on top in their own testing:
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@@UKSportsFan I mistook Apex detail for the other TH-cam poster named 'Jimbos detailing'. In his video he directly pitted both and performed his own chemical resistance test and seal and shine came out on top.
@@obliviondio OK, fair enough...but personally, I trust Turtle Wax and Apex Detail results from their testing of the two. That said, I went back and watched Jimbo's comparison video and he called it "a big toss-up" at the end and did not declare a winner. Both products performed similarly in his video. When it comes to testing and reviewing products, though, Brian here at Apex Detail is one of the absolute best in that regard.
Seal and Shine for the durability, price, and ease of application.
Not the smell though🤭 Smells like Rug Doctor Carpet cleaner!
This guy is the king great video buddy
Are there any good "sheeting" waxes or sealants you could recommend?
sonax polymer netshield is a great sheeting sealant
Sealant that sheets is Klasse. Thats a personal favorite.
@@jaamz7777 Polymer Net Shield is also incredibly hydrophobic and creates amazing beading, like BSD does.
I find that after the initial wash, a lot of Meguiars 'waxes' will prefer to sheet rather than bead, despite what it says on the bottle.
SNS is a true champ at the price point it brings. Brian have you tried a topper to maybe get it any more glossy???
Seal and shine is also a great trim and black plastic cleaner and protectant. I think Meguiar's conflict with in the product lines is cost of the Hybrid ceramic wax vs Ultimate liquid wax, same price.The one negative for the ceramic wax or maybe it was just the day, was the dust it attracted. Outside that, great product. I am still a fan of Barry even tho I have not watched car crazy in a long time.How well would something like GTechniq's permanent trim restorer work to make road paint and tar to remove? I know road construction season is not to far off.
The SnS is more streaky and quickly cure than M26 or M21. Many people prefer liquid sealant, user friendly in hot areas.
Why does the Seal & Shine side look like it muddles the color of the blue??
I would love to see a comparison against products that we had like 10 - 20 and 30 years ago. Have we really made that improvement in products to protect or not?
right on!! good show Brian !!
ICE SS is simply a champ. Grats on hitting 60k B!
what about putting M27 after a polish, and then topping it up with SNS?
When you took the panel outside it looked like seal and shine didnt level very well. I noticed alot of streaking. Thoughts?
I ran into this issue a lot when trying to use Seal N Shine. Multiple different vehcicles and application techniques, still streaky.
All ceramic coatings will streak to some degree if surface conditions are poor as well as streaks involved with uneven application by hand. The spray coatings are far less noticable than the strong concentrated solutions.
@@obliviondio Seal N Shine is not a ceramic coating.
@@obliviondio seal and shine isn't a ceramic coating though.
You people need a course as to how the auto detailing industry skews terms.
Ceramic encompass alot of substances including caranuba. Ceramic is not just comprised of liquid polymers. Meguiars ceramic wax includes caranuba just like seal n shine. Ceramic also incorporates sio2 just as how some ceramics don't. It's all marketing.
Ceramic and sealant are also terms that have their own uses which have also both been used together such as with Simoniz 'Ceramic Sealant'.
Is it just me or is seal n shine patchy AF?
S&S always looks like shit to me. It never lays flat and even. I just can't get on the TW bandwagon.
Strange that brisey didn’t point it out.
You say it's still protecting when the beading has gone. What is it protecting against? Can you do a test where you prove that it is actually protecting against anything?
Thank you Brian for another great video! I would have figured Meg's would have figured out something better than seal and shine? Especially at the price? As always a informative and interesting video! 👍
Hello Apex. GREAT VIDEO!! What kind of soap did you use on the 10 washes?
How about us folks who use a product for a drying aid after each wash, does it prolong the protection? For example I use m27 then x-press spray wax after each wash. Although I will be switching to m799 as a drying aid soon.
I’m torn on what sealant to apply when I do my paint correction. Thinking I might just do seal n shine and find a topper. I have power lock, but I saw it doesn’t have very high gloss readings.
Fusso coat soft99 cant beat it
I have 2 options I would personally go with. Depending on how durable you want it to be, though if doing paint correction, I would expect as durable as possible, first you could go with the Ceramic Lite route like CarPro Ceramic Lite, Feynlab Ceramic Lite, Tac Systems Moonlight or Gyeon Cancoat. All nice and easy to use, no harder than a typical sealant, but providing around 9 months and up in durability, which you can then accompany with their associated top up products (or other good top up products).
Second, you could get the most durable 'regular' sealant you can find and again, maintain that with a good quick top up product periodically. As for these products your looking at 12 months again. I really like Wowo's Crystal Sealant. It will do 12 months and I think it looks good too. Powerlock plus or Fusso are also potentials but not as glossy or I think as durable.
roscopervis I really want to use moonlight. Just can’t find it with their US website down, or whatever is going on with the business. I can only find it on eBay but won’t go that route. I’ve been considering just coating it, but eh
@@24skeemers how about CarPro Ceramic Lite then instead? It's got more Si02 than Moonlight so is more coating than a 'half' coating. Should be OK to get I would think. CarPro has a similar range of Si02 infused glazes and polishes like TAC so I think the two's products would work with each other.
If you were going full coating then CQUK 3.0 is easy and proven. I also really like Feynlab Ceramic V2.
If I just applied Seal n shine and then took the truck out in the rain. Will it hurt to “clean” the truck with F11 Top coat? Just to remove the surface dirt that accumulated from light rain.
How about seal and shine vs chinesse coating like mr.fix
On a budget and have a black car .... what’s the best cheap sealant????? I thank u n advance
What's in the soap bucket for those washes? Thank you for the video!
Have you evaluated a product called aerolon? If so how does it compare to some of your other spray detailer’s
Seal N Shine for the WIN!
So when I first got my recently required 1988 bmw 535is it was in need of a deep clean and in doing so I stripped the paint of any wax or coating (not that it had one) and clayed it about 6 months ago for the first time but did not do a follow up paint correction. Now i want to do a paint correction on it should i clay it again or should i used a less aggressive clay towel/pad. What do you think is the best option before i do the correction?
Hi Brian, I checked XS PolySeal and not sure if they changed the formula but it now has SiO2 also. This is from their website: " PolySeal is a synthetic wax infused with SiO2. The SiO2 is bonded with the synthetic wax and the wax is what sticks to your vehicle’s surface!". So this M27 is really a PolySeal equivalent. Based on durability and Gloss, which one would you pick?
Fusso coat soft99 better then both
Final one, for the exfoliation you mentioned light polish pad (blue/white). Meg's D302 ok as the polish compound?
Does slickness still remain after all those tests? I noticed beads lose quickly, but gloss gets better.
Seal N Shine is still king!
I’ve noticed that shine on my car is better a good 24 hrs after applying seal n shine!
Yes I noticed that too!
Can I ask what gsm micro fibers you use and brands tks
Seal and Shine is Mighty Fine!!
MOST DURABLE SEALANT EVER. Come on Meguiars... turtle wax beat you guys years ago with a 5 dollar spray sealant.
lol Seal n Shine looks streaky as hell
@@derek723 I've never had streak issues with that. It's all about how you use it
Finally a pro says it. You want sheeting not magnifying beads. I don't get why the industry perpetuates the beading notion.
This is just more proof that you don't need to spend big money on a product to protect your paint, S&S takes it home again. Can you make a video on the best way to prepare and protect a car WITHOUT polishing? Just for those who want to fully protect paint for people who don't have access to a polisher, like me and without hand polishing. Thanks!
Hey Apex detail, i was trying to look through your videos for other tests like this but couldn't find them. Is seal and shine still the most durable? Im looking for a wax that is fairly easy to apply, and lasts. Im not the best at waxing but i at least put in the effort to get it done every 5-10 washes. Also. What is Your favorite?
Not sure changing the color of the paint is a good thing?
Should I apply Seal & Shine before I wax my car or after I wax my car?
Good Day Mate I do it before because seal and shine is way more durable than the wax I have. I use the wax as a topper to give it a little more kick in shine. Always make sure to to give enough time for which ever products to cure though.
@@archinich Would wax provide anything different in terms of protection compared to Seal & Shine? Or is Seal & Shine a good UV protection alternative to wax?
This is the 2nd video I've seen where the M27 doesnt have the staying power of Seal and Shine. Again, disappointed in the M27.
Weird how the S&S fights off the soap, but the M27 doesn't.....yet both still bead after.
Good old seal and shine is a tough product ✊💎
Would the sealants or hybrid ceramics have differences when applied to plastic vs metals?
👍 my IK foamer 2.0 sprays in the same weird way, no continuous nice spray pattern, can’t make it stop spraying like yours in the video. btw interesting video as always.
Brian can you top m27 with m799 to see if it enhances depth and added durability?
Those two products were made to complement each other, so yes you can definitely do that.
To me... the best sealant that sheets is Klasse.
Wth lol this is a Meguiar’s and TW review dude
Not a Klasse review
What were you spraying on the panel using the sprayer?
Nice thanks Brian
Hi Brian, how do you think this new Meg's stacks up against TW hybrid ceramic spray? And secondly, has anyone given long term feedback , ie > 3months data on TW hybrid ceramic spray...I am a bit sick of seeing videos saying how great it is on first application and so far very little evidence that it lasts 6 months (even for the original testers). I think as you often say, dont go running for the next product till you are ready. This is the case here. I think this video proves it. TW SnS is still hanging in there and worthwhile. I am asking about the TW hybrid ceramic spray as I am not sure if its worthwhile putting on a car and claiming it will give 6 months or 12 month protection...I dont like hoodwinking my clients so I am trying to find proof.. Again many thanks for the superb video. Stay safe Brian!
Great video!