Poly-Seal for $17! Now poly seal has SiO2 --- From the Xtreme solutions website: "PolySeal is a hybrid sealant, which means, PolySeal is a synthetic wax infused with SiO2. The SiO2 is bonded with the synthetic wax and the wax is what sticks to your vehicle’s surface!"
Was hoping for so much more out of the Meguiars ,bought it when it first came out and was so excited. Still will use it but will go with neither in the future.Thanks for the review Brian and as he mentioned hope everyone is safe and well.
Question on wiping in detergents.... Since we don't wipe in rain and road contaminates after we drive our cars. Wouldn't it make more real world if you spray on the chemical like if they were just splashed on our car from the road and just spray off like we would when we wash a car? We wouldn't wipe in and rain or road contaminants. Thanks.
The fact that you put units of measure after testing the gloss makes me happy. Also what kind of sheeting products are you referring to? I like sheeting better that beads
I have not yet tried neither one of those yet. They look great but like others said I'll stick with seal n shine. it's local, cheap and it does super good. Thanks for the review Brian.
Brian, it appears the gloss levels went up a little bit; that would suggest that at least some of the product is still present or some form of paint cleaner in the product. Can't wait for that topic.
The Chemical Guys seems better upon initial application; but the Meguiar's is more durable. Having to deal with Minnesota winters, this is massively important to me. I'll take durability every time! Great video!!!
I run my own little detailing side business. I use Chemical Guys products almost exclusively. I used to use a lot of Megs products. They never let me down. I went to chem guy’s because I thought they were a more professional product. Honestly I really don’t know if chem guys are really better. I bought this meguires sio2 product and I’m really impressed. I didn’t even try the hydro slick. I really love meguires products and will probably cycle them back into my stock.
Suggestion: for real world testing, perhaps change the sequence of your torture test. Instead of 10 washes in a row followed by road grime, maybe try road grime, wash, road grime, wash, etc., 10 times. That would better mimic what we do to our cars in the real world: we wash our cars when they get grimy! Great video, keep them coming!
Switched over to Chem guys, from a different brand. Used the v line cutting polish kit on my truck, and then followed up with a coat of glaze. And will soon get 2 coats of wax. I was mighty impressed with the shine just from the glaze, bow Some stuff may be alittle more pricey, but that's not an issue when the product your receiving is top notch, and your getting from a company that doesnt have the "another one will come" mindset.
I bought some of that AvalonKing stuff, cost me $50 for a tiny little bottle. The stuff absolutely failed. I put two coats 24 hours apart, both layers cured for three full days and then it rained here. This was last week. The rain included wind and lots of muddy dust. Storm cleared and my truck was covered in lots of little muddy water spots. I washed the truck again, the truck generally looks like shit. I will wax the truck tomorrow with regular Meguiar's liquid wax. Maybe the undercoat of ceramic will help the wax layer last longer I'll find out in the coming months.
I just re did my truck with eagle one wipe and shine. I don’t understand why no one talks about this product. I love the way it looks and feels. Probably my new favorite product.
I been a big fan of Meguiars since I got my first car 3 years ago ever since then, I also used CG, I have to say, CG Hydroslick failed after a month so it was not worth it, I even ran tests after polishing and on 3 other cars, not a good hold up. The Meguiars looks great but I’d have to tip my hat to the Turtle Wax Seal N Shine, it’s about $7 at my walmart and all my customers and I myself love the way it works on my car too especially windows, it’s held up longer too
it says on the bottle you don't have to prepare the panel to that extent and can be used over other sealants so where did you get its a waste if time if you dont perfectly prep the panel. it may lessen the lifespan but it's not a waste if time. but if you believe it is do you have empirical data and evidence proving that it's a waste of time if you dont perfectly polish the panel before hand. most people who buy this are not doing it to that extent thanks
Chemical Guys Hydro Slick - impressed at the moment. Used on my BMW i8 and it looks like glass. I will say you bright lights if you're using this on a dark car. It is tough to see if you have the product completely polished off. I caught a few darker spots on my final walk around. No telling what would have happened if I went out in the sunlight leaving that how it was. I have a Jeep that I use in harsher environments and I'll have a better comparison to update after a couple months.
I wish you would leave the panel outdoors ins the sun for at least 2 weeks and did a comparison test after that. These products are at their strongest when you currently do the torture tests. I wanna see how they perform after a few weeks in the elements.
Is it possible that one product will work better than another on the type of clear coat that is OEM to the car? Seal n shine seams to get streaky to the point I dont like using it on my range rover (metallic speckled black base color). However, no issues on a glossy black base colored ford focus. It's not just seal n shine, the range rover gets streaky with other sealants like Adam's H2O guard and gloss. I am wondering if you, or anyone that cares to comment, has had similar issues on either metallic black paint or on a specific clear? Or is it more likely it could be other factors that are just coincidental to which car I happen to be detailing like temperature and humidity?
Meguiars Fast Finish has performed well in my experience. It also does a good job of keeping my Wrangler cleaner longer. Plus application is a breeze. What has been ya'll's experience? Oh and P.S. my experience with TW seal and shine has been less than stellar. I decontaminated and clayed my wife's brand new car then applied seal and shine and surprisingly after less than a month the sides of the car seemed as though there was no protection at all... no sheeting, no beading just flat. I applied two separate coats on the car. Just my experience for what it's worth. The car is a 2019 Honda Pilot.
nothing in these comments are “coatings” is say gtechnip crystal serum light or cquartz uk 3.0..I love car pro so I use cquartz but I use gtechniqs c5 wheel coating
Obviously these won't compare to true ceramic coatings. But I have a bottle of HydroSlick that I didn't end up using on my car. I changed my mind and will be applying the Adam's UV Ceramic Spray. Would HydroSlick be a good topper for the Adam's coating? If so, could HydroSlick be applied by DA like a liquid wax?
I never seen a heat gun test, sounds nice! But nobody, in TH-cam channels, has ever tried an acid ph shampoo/prewash to see if it can "unleash" the water behaviour after an alkaline product
I get wanting audience participation but there are something you cannot see on a video would like your input on how both fail the road grime test please.
In my country (RO) we don't have M27 in stores but we do have CG Hydro and the price is 55 💲, so sadly that's what I use, I work only with CG products so imagine how much I need to charge for a detailing to make a little money :/ please make more comparisons with CG :))
been testing/using a wide array of CG for a few years with three different black vehicles. They have a newer glaze that is the best I have used yet, for filling in the fine scratches. I'm more of a get the major stuff - leave as much clear coat as possible guy. Clear coat is limited resource, so polishing it for perfection very many times isn't too wise. CG GlassWorkz Ultimate Glaze is an amazing product - and topped with a good sealant and/or wax. CG Blacklight worked well in this vein, but this product is even better. I top with a sealant for protection and wax for depth and gloss. Just like the old days - more layers, more depth - if one has the time and likes the results. I get lots of complements on Corvette, Audi, and old F150 that looks better than most trucks 10-15 years newer.
Hi Brian, which foam pads are those you are using? I want to get the ones that have that large bevel for safety reasons and Buff n Shine's website has awful search capabilities.
It seemed to me that the Megs gained more gloss even though it started out with less than the Chemical Guys. I hope I am right about that. I am using Seal and Shine now on my black metallic F150, and like how it holds up, but I am new to all this stuff, so I appreciate all that you are doing to educate a newbie like me. Thank you so much!
honestly any good quick detailer applied every other day for a few days, keep it dusted and clean , there is no magic bullet when it comes to this stuff, its about how many times you do it, and if you keep the car clean, notice he didnt prep the area , or at least he didnt show us he did, i.e wash , clay bar, and depending on your paint one thing might now work over another, try the turtle wax ceramic stuff, after a good foam wash, i think you will like it
GordyCOD turtle wax seal n shine for that base protection and beading. Top it off with turtle wax ICE spray wax. Slick and low price especially if you keep the vehicle garaged. I use the turtle wax spray detail after in between washes. $25-$30 max for all 3 combined
Serious question because I'm trying to think back to all your other videos: When you get to your final thoughts section, do you actually give an over view of your final thoughts of the products throughout this process? Or are you just asking viewers for theirs?
More than welcome in forming my own opinion. What works for me and what my expectations are. I was simply confused by this section of the video however; was expecting Brian's honest opinion since he's one of the few with an unbiased opinion (which is taken into consideration).
@@apexdetail85 The past few weeks I've been dumbfound on how the gloss readings increase after these tests....To say the least on M27 however, I was fairly let down on how it goes toe-to-toe with Chemical Guys. I was more than impressed with Megs Ceramic Detailer on my coated car (more than Carpro Elixer, Beadmaker, Ech20, and C2V3) so I was hoping M27 would stand above the rest with Meg's Si02 product line push, but the price seems justifiable when comparing the two here.
I know Buff n Shine 3 inch wool grip pads are on back order. I use them to polish 22.5 alcoa wheels while they are on the trailer and tractor. I would say Meguiar's won on that level. Maybe a later date video do the best hybrid ceramic wax vs IGL F4. I can't wait to use LVR 403 with IGL F4.
Neither! Shine Supply Slick Back primer followed by their Clutch or Daddy O. Both are amazing. A shine on par with the Wolfgang Füzion Carnauba-Polymer Estate Wax that a buddy who details cars for a living came by with years ago. Only difference is that stuff doesn't last long as it's a traditional wax.
In earlier videos you showed us a small (2 or 3”) compressed air polisher. What’s the difference between using compressed air vs. an electric drill with the same backing plates and pads?
I have hard water in my area. What product would you suggest that sheets water rather then bead? Thank you! I just came across your channel and I have SUBSCRIBED!
The mirror shine from Torque detail is a good shelter. Runs about $40 on their site and Amazon. It’s a sealer with wax "hybrid" their marketers call it..
Curious if you would put an actual coating through this test. Some coatings in my experience don’t hold up to alkaline cleaners like others may. Would just be cool to see how much better it really is.
@@slimsampy4764 I'm with you on that - sheeting is far better than beading. Beading holds contaminants to then sit on the vehicle - sheeting will carry them off. I, too, prefer sheeting. Beading tells you nothing about protection.
Is there a single product you believe meguiars does best or least best for the money? I haven't given them much of a chance but people like their products and I am open to trying new things
@@scottmattern482 Meguiars makes a product for literally everything, in every situation and they really set the standard. I have yet to find a Meguiars product that has disappointed me, sure they aren't top dog in every catagory, but I'd say an easy top 5 in every type of detailing product. That's a feat I don't think any other company can even come close to. So try literally any of their stuff, you'll find something you like for sure
@@americainmuscle3456 thanks for the thoughtful feedback. I've used some of their products and have been satisfied. Tonight I am doing some teo stage polishing maybe a little wet sanding on my brother in laws car. I will be using ultimate polish, but its the only meguiars product I have at the moment. Are you pretty exclusive to Meguires or do you occasionaly grab a random other brand product then end up back with megs?
@@scottmattern482 I got a few brands I like, such as chemical guys, and car pro, but Meg's makes up probably 50% of my range. As for ultimate polish it's a great glaze, not a great polish one thing that confuses alot of people is Meguiars calls glazes polishes and actual polishes "cleaners" not sure why but it's just what they do. This took me a long time to figure out 😂 If you want a true Meg's polish the ultra pro finishing polish is what I would recommend. As for other brands car pro reflect is a comparable option. I haven't used to many other polishes cause the Meg's ultra finishing has never let me down
Chemical guys to me lasted longer but again was only 1 wash then it became a tie. But $40 compare to $20 well that alone speaks for itself. Awesome job and your monatone was dead on not leading to one or the other, true referee you are.
Hello Brian. M27 for me 😁. Me I love the distribution bottles and the new design of the meguiar's M27 !, even other meguiar's products for that matter. They made a big effort on the presentation I think, more professional! I also like the visual of the brand, this is just as important to me. Strongly also the tests of the coating M788 ceramic paint coating of meg's, I hope you will give it a try !?, and even why not a match of coating meguiar's M188, M688 and M788, to see the real improvements. but maybe I ask a lot 😉
fr thats why i dont buy their polish or waxes, the chemical guys one in this video is 40 dollars, ill stick with my meguires ceramic wax, but you know im brand loyal like alot of people with products, otherside i love chemical guys soaps specifically their watermelon for my foam cannon
From my experience Adam's is a premium product that has superior nuances (eg great smell, ease of use), if not appreciated, isnt worth the full MSRP. Nor have I ever bought an Adam's product at full MSRP and often has at least a 20% discount. Chemical guys has a very good line of water based products that are actually safe to work with and safe for materials they are being applied to. Granted you should expect less performance from water based products, but you will live long enough to keep enjoying detailing your car. You get what you pay for, generally in life. Nothing wrong with trying to get the best bang for the buck, but price and longevity should only be part of deciding on a product. If you want the cheapest for nice longevity, go for turtlewax. If you want a pleasant experience with premium products, then pay a few extra dollars and go for Adams , CG, or try one of the boutique manufacturers and pay an arm and leg. I suggest people be more open minded and honestly look at pros and cons of different products, not just decide to hate an entire line because you can get a cheaper product at Walmart. You can get running shoes at Walmart too, but I bet you spring for something a little more quality, comfortable, and stylish despite the financial cost. Nor is it wise to stereotype an entire brand because of one product or anecdotal bad experiences, think for yourself. I'm not saying one brand has superior product over another, but they certainly have different products at different price points based on manufacturing difficulty and raw material cost. There is a reason Adam's CS3 spray costs more than Eagle One spray and shine, if you appreciate those reasons is another thing.
@@sylermran $40, but that bottle will do my truck five times over…2.5 years of protection… not a crazy price - assuming you believe in the products effectiveness in the first place.
It’s unfortunate that there are no subtitles for your video. I will be glad to follow your channel if there are subtitles .. I'm just limited to hearing. I wish you good luck and success.
I know this is a year later, but perhaps it will still be useful to you. He basically doesn’t say anything super important, other than that you should view the results on camera for yourself and make up your own mind about price and performance of each product. In the end they’re very similar on almost all accounts.
Hey Brian I'm in South Texas. Curious about the limitations of polishing in the sun. I'm mobile so I don't have a dedicated space if my own to do it in. Appreciate any tips!
Hi Brian, Thanks for getting back to me about the burn through (can't always trust meters). While waiting for the body shop, I went through the rest of the car. Used lvr 503 with 50/50 pad, then lvr 403 with a white polishing pad and it came out like glass. Now protection... was thinking of TW ceramic spray but hear more about Seal and Shine. Really liked the green Vette and thought on the Hydro slick...until today. Do not have the facilities for an actual ceramic coating (just a carport). Will I have to polish the 403 to prep it for a coating or is it ok after it cures? Can't see it looking much better than it does now so dont want to take a step back on gloss. Any ideas or suggestions welcome. We appreciate your input since we are bombarded with brands "latest and greatest" constantly and cannot afford to try everything that comes out. Thank you for everything you do for us and stay safe.
Pardon my ignorance, what is an "IP" solution? I probably know it by a different moniker. Thanks... Also, I wish you had been a bit more demonstrative in the end, showing better angle of depth of shine, "slide test," beading/sheeting, etc.. There is too much lacking in the camera viewer to make a completely unaided decision on our own. Too subjective. But thanks. All that said, I'd pick the hydro-shine, from what little I could pick out.
@@yanniobkirk5744 Aaahhh *slaps forehead* just never called it by initials. Thanks! I wish I could see a bit better, to my untrained eye. Anyway, I ended up with Mirror Shine to use on my new GMC. Washed it, clay barred it and applied the Mirror shine, smooth as a baby's hiney, and sheds water well. :)
Recently subscribed! I have 1 question: I purchased the Meguiars Ceramic liquid wax ( yellow bottle). Do you recommend applying the product with an orbital buffer vs hand application? ( I already clay barred my 2019 Challenger with Mothers Clay bar kit.) . Thank you!
Hey Brian,looking forward to the vette vid,anyway Adams came out with CS3 a new 3 in 1 waterless wash, Detailer and protectant, can you look into this and see what it’s all about. Stay safe and healthy.
Meguiars is what I’m rolling with bc it’s doing the same thing so it don’t make sense to pay $40 for something that cost $20 and does the same EXACT thing but that’s just me.
does rear end work and social distance really work.lol.could help myself.hope all get a kick out of that.hope all Apex detailing family are doing well and safe..
While M27 is a relatively new product - and perhaps similar to some you have compared it with, testing/comparing their M788 product would be more useful. I expect it to be a much better product, but perhaps your intent is to compare the halfway coatings, that are more easily applied.
Was it a decontaminated panel? The Hydro Slick tells you that you need to have a clayed and polished panel free of contamination. That's where the results come from. The Hydro Slick is absolutely amazing if you do the work before that step. Just saying.
Neither Brian, I'm waiting to see how you like LVR 357 Magnum wax and I just bought a bunch of Blackfire product to try as its 50% off today at Autogeek. Thanks again for your commitment to all us viewers and subscribers.
I tried the Blackfire line - the whole line - was careful with prep, etc. In my opinion it's a big waste of money and I didn't like how it applied. I've tried a lot of decent to great products. Blackfire is a house brand and I was very disappointed with the results. We have three black vehicles, so I get lots of practice - and lots of complements on how they look.
@@wileec5939 Thank you for sharing your experience, I've been wondering how well their products work and pulled the trigger yesterday with the sale, I was never going to try them at full price, hopefully they've improved since then, if not well at least I only paid half price
@@denniscolyn5435 no problem - and let me be clear. Each car can be different - I was wanting this product for a new to us Audi A4 and it just wasn't the right fit. I ended up using CG products and have gotten a great result.
@@wileec5939 You're absolutely right about every car being different, and knowing what to use on each of them is what separates the pros from the rest.
I have a soft spot in my heart for chemical guys as their products introduced me to the detailing world. I still like their butter wet wax, shampoos, and black light glaze. They lost me with jet seal, i can't get that to last more than a couple months, I will probably skip their SiO2 line. Meguiars hasn't blown me away with any single product. I'm sticking to a mostly Adam's polishes, some griots garage, and turtle wax's - seal n shine/ice spray wax/wax & dry combo is my favorite for the price. Thanks for the tests, you have helped me so much!
Try CG GlossWorkz Ultimate Glaze - I find it much better than Blacklight, which I still have to get used up. The Glossworkz fills in the fine stuff even better. Then I like to top it with a sealant and a wax or two. I find CG products better than Griots. Haven't tried Adams - prefer Mequiars professional products, though store stuff is solid, at least with what I have tried.
@@wileec5939I am about to get long winded, warning. griots heavy duty wheel cleaner is good, they have quality sprayers too. I actually bought my dad that cg glaze you're speaking of for a deep red truck he has, I but haven't tried it myself, yet. I was at walmart recently and they had a very nice selection of cg stuff. That's what I am interested in, the widely available products that work well. I am fortunate enough that Adam's Polishes has a warehouse/store under an hour drive with heavy traffic, from me. Adam's Polishes certainly makes quality product. It certainly costs more than stuff at autozone. If you get it on sale its totally worth it, no question. If you pay full price for Adam's, then you better be appreciating the fine nuances within their product that most would fail to appreciate. However, I asked really nice, just today, they made me a special 15mm swirl killer mystery box - gave me a few towels, polish, clay bar, a few pads, wash, spray wax, wheel cleaner, iron remover, and more that I am forgetting - along with the 15mm throw DA machine for $200. So, Adam's customer service is fantastic which is worth paying a little more, especially since Adam himself is their asking me if I need help about half the time I happen to go shopping there. However, it's a trip across the metro passing dozens of auto part stores or ordering online which fails my need for instant gratification. Sounds like I should look at Meguires more closely.
@@scottmattern482 I know how to get long winded, too - but will resist the urge. I learned from CG early on and have tried far too many of their products. Now I only get the ones I like - and by the gallon. Same for Mequair's. That said, while I like some of the Meguiar's pro products, I'm working to use them up, and settling on fewer products. Cool that Adam's has taken care of you. In truth, I've learned the most from Larry C, from AMMO NYC and his products are quite good, too. That said, I find myself using more CG than any other, then the best of what has worked for me from other brands. I get all my CG from big sales with them, or on Amazon, for a single item - often that is discounted. The CG MicroFiber wash has done wonders for keeping all of those in tip top and soft shape. Ultimately, I think it's better to find a brand system and run with it, especially in terms of protection. One can't know that mixing brands will have good adhesion among the different brands. We have three very different vehicles - but all black, so I figure out how well something works quickly. And we have real winters with snow and ice and a vehicle that is always outside, so lots of practice on my end. Cheers! P.S. My favorite detailer is CG Synthetic Quick Detailer - it provides more pop and depth and slickness than any other detailer I have tried. In the winter, I prefer to only use a local manual car wash, and with high pressure soap, rinse and their wax, then finished with the CG after dry - I don't have to touch vehicles with a brush at all. Less contact, less chance of fine scratches. Larry C AMMO vids really helped me to develop best practice for keeping my clear coat in best shape as long as possible.
Oh - and I love the Griot foam sprayer (not the hose kind). I load it up with Optimum's ONR and it's great for a quick removal of fine dusting on car. We have lots of agriculture and development in our area, so just sitting outside for a few days can have our black vehicles hazed up. This works great - then I follow it with the CG Synthetic Quick Detailer and then wait for the complements. ;-)
Meguiar's...Chemical Guys....or Neither?
Seal n Shine
Niether. Hoping the Magnum 357 is the one.
Poly-Seal for $17! Now poly seal has SiO2 --- From the Xtreme solutions website: "PolySeal is a hybrid sealant, which means, PolySeal is a synthetic wax infused with SiO2. The SiO2 is bonded with the synthetic wax and the wax is what sticks to your vehicle’s surface!"
Was hoping for so much more out of the Meguiars ,bought it when it first came out and was so excited. Still will use it but will go with neither in the future.Thanks for the review Brian and as he mentioned hope everyone is safe and well.
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I think the whole point of a test like this is to get YOUR opinion of which one is the best. Just saying...
Put the Hydro Slick on my Camaro yesterday. Easy to use and great shine.
Question on wiping in detergents.... Since we don't wipe in rain and road contaminates after we drive our cars. Wouldn't it make more real world if you spray on the chemical like if they were just splashed on our car from the road and just spray off like we would when we wash a car? We wouldn't wipe in and rain or road contaminants. Thanks.
The fact that you put units of measure after testing the gloss makes me happy. Also what kind of sheeting products are you referring to? I like sheeting better that beads
I have not yet tried neither one of those yet. They look great but like others said I'll stick with seal n shine. it's local, cheap and it does super good. Thanks for the review Brian.
Went with the CG was definitely worth it to me. I previously used Meguiars ultimate paste wax. The CG Hyperwax has been quite an upgrade
But it really not a wax more of a protective to me. I wax than use it on top of the wax.
Brian, it appears the gloss levels went up a little bit; that would suggest that at least some of the product is still present or some form of paint cleaner in the product. Can't wait for that topic.
Thanks for keeping us entertained B. Looking forward to the bar find restoration.
Your objective reviews are most helpful. Always a thumbs up.
I would love to see if the GU count changes immediately after application and gets better after the final cure time has taken place.
The Chemical Guys seems better upon initial application; but the Meguiar's is more durable. Having to deal with Minnesota winters, this is massively important to me. I'll take durability every time!
Great video!!!
You said it all sir, sister fighting salt in Iowa
Looks like meguiars wins on price, have you done a video comparing hydro charge vs Adams spray ceramic coating?
I run my own little detailing side business. I use Chemical Guys products almost exclusively. I used to use a lot of Megs products. They never let me down. I went to chem guy’s because I thought they were a more professional product. Honestly I really don’t know if chem guys are really better. I bought this meguires sio2 product and I’m really impressed. I didn’t even try the hydro slick. I really love meguires products and will probably cycle them back into my stock.
I used to use Chemical Guys too. I have changed back to Meguairs thinking their results and technology better??
your tests are the best and most realistic. thank you for the video
Hello . can I pass one of these 2 products after a carnauba wax (for example: Gold Class Carnauba Plus meguiars wax)?
Do you have to Polished the car first before you use the crimatic
Suggestion: for real world testing, perhaps change the sequence of your torture test. Instead of 10 washes in a row followed by road grime, maybe try road grime, wash, road grime, wash, etc., 10 times. That would better mimic what we do to our cars in the real world: we wash our cars when they get grimy! Great video, keep them coming!
Switched over to Chem guys, from a different brand. Used the v line cutting polish kit on my truck, and then followed up with a coat of glaze. And will soon get 2 coats of wax. I was mighty impressed with the shine just from the glaze, bow Some stuff may be alittle more pricey, but that's not an issue when the product your receiving is top notch, and your getting from a company that doesnt have the "another one will come" mindset.
Cant wait for the Stingray videos!!!
I bought some of that AvalonKing stuff, cost me $50 for a tiny little bottle. The stuff absolutely failed. I put two coats 24 hours apart, both layers cured for three full days and then it rained here. This was last week. The rain included wind and lots of muddy dust. Storm cleared and my truck was covered in lots of little muddy water spots. I washed the truck again, the truck generally looks like shit. I will wax the truck tomorrow with regular Meguiar's liquid wax. Maybe the undercoat of ceramic will help the wax layer last longer I'll find out in the coming months.
I just re did my truck with eagle one wipe and shine. I don’t understand why no one talks about this product. I love the way it looks and feels. Probably my new favorite product.
I been a big fan of Meguiars since I got my first car 3 years ago ever since then, I also used CG, I have to say, CG Hydroslick failed after a month so it was not worth it, I even ran tests after polishing and on 3 other cars, not a good hold up. The Meguiars looks great but I’d have to tip my hat to the Turtle Wax Seal N Shine, it’s about $7 at my walmart and all my customers and I myself love the way it works on my car too especially windows, it’s held up longer too
In my opinion, the 10 cycle wash will be more complete and closer to real life conditions if you dry the surface in between each wash.
Interesting gloss meter reading. Thanks again Brian
it says on the bottle you don't have to prepare the panel to that extent and can be used over other sealants so where did you get its a waste if time if you dont perfectly prep the panel. it may lessen the lifespan but it's not a waste if time. but if you believe it is do you have empirical data and evidence proving that it's a waste of time if you dont perfectly polish the panel before hand. most people who buy this are not doing it to that extent thanks
Not sure I’d use either but I preferred meguiers in the video, I’m really liking the extreme solutions as an alternative to a coating. .
Chemical Guys Hydro Slick - impressed at the moment. Used on my BMW i8 and it looks like glass. I will say you bright lights if you're using this on a dark car. It is tough to see if you have the product completely polished off. I caught a few darker spots on my final walk around. No telling what would have happened if I went out in the sunlight leaving that how it was. I have a Jeep that I use in harsher environments and I'll have a better comparison to update after a couple months.
I wish you would leave the panel outdoors ins the sun for at least 2 weeks and did a comparison test after that. These products are at their strongest when you currently do the torture tests. I wanna see how they perform after a few weeks in the elements.
COuld you tell me where and what brand of glasses/ spectacles you are sporting?
Is it possible that one product will work better than another on the type of clear coat that is OEM to the car? Seal n shine seams to get streaky to the point I dont like using it on my range rover (metallic speckled black base color). However, no issues on a glossy black base colored ford focus. It's not just seal n shine, the range rover gets streaky with other sealants like Adam's H2O guard and gloss. I am wondering if you, or anyone that cares to comment, has had similar issues on either metallic black paint or on a specific clear? Or is it more likely it could be other factors that are just coincidental to which car I happen to be detailing like temperature and humidity?
What is the best water sheeting consumer coating/product that you would recommend?
My question too.
QP ON would be my guess or TAC
Try Scott’s products from Dallas Paint Corections
Meguiars Fast Finish has performed well in my experience. It also does a good job of keeping my Wrangler cleaner longer. Plus application is a breeze. What has been ya'll's experience?
Oh and P.S. my experience with TW seal and shine has been less than stellar. I decontaminated and clayed my wife's brand new car then applied seal and shine and surprisingly after less than a month the sides of the car seemed as though there was no protection at all... no sheeting, no beading just flat. I applied two separate coats on the car. Just my experience for what it's worth. The car is a 2019 Honda Pilot.
nothing in these comments are “coatings” is say gtechnip crystal serum light or cquartz uk 3.0..I love car pro so I use cquartz but I use gtechniqs c5 wheel coating
Obviously these won't compare to true ceramic coatings. But I have a bottle of HydroSlick that I didn't end up using on my car. I changed my mind and will be applying the Adam's UV Ceramic Spray. Would HydroSlick be a good topper for the Adam's coating?
If so, could HydroSlick be applied by DA like a liquid wax?
Great video as always Brian. We wonder how Ceramic Wax PRO would do against these two products. Is anyone interested in seeing that comparison?
Was wondering if I could use the butter wet wax and then use the hydro slick, or just use the hydro slick.
I never seen a heat gun test, sounds nice! But nobody, in TH-cam channels, has ever tried an acid ph shampoo/prewash to see if it can "unleash" the water behaviour after an alkaline product
I get wanting audience participation but there are something you cannot see on a video would like your input on how both fail the road grime test please.
In my country (RO) we don't have M27 in stores but we do have CG Hydro and the price is 55 💲, so sadly that's what I use, I work only with CG products so imagine how much I need to charge for a detailing to make a little money :/ please make more comparisons with CG :))
been testing/using a wide array of CG for a few years with three different black vehicles. They have a newer glaze that is the best I have used yet, for filling in the fine scratches. I'm more of a get the major stuff - leave as much clear coat as possible guy. Clear coat is limited resource, so polishing it for perfection very many times isn't too wise. CG GlassWorkz Ultimate Glaze is an amazing product - and topped with a good sealant and/or wax. CG Blacklight worked well in this vein, but this product is even better. I top with a sealant for protection and wax for depth and gloss. Just like the old days - more layers, more depth - if one has the time and likes the results. I get lots of complements on Corvette, Audi, and old F150 that looks better than most trucks 10-15 years newer.
Hi Brian, which foam pads are those you are using? I want to get the ones that have that large bevel for safety reasons and Buff n Shine's website has awful search capabilities.
Sandro Herrera they are MaxShine polish pads.
It seemed to me that the Megs gained more gloss even though it started out with less than the Chemical Guys. I hope I am right about that. I am using Seal and Shine now on my black metallic F150, and like how it holds up, but I am new to all this stuff, so I appreciate all that you are doing to educate a newbie like me. Thank you so much!
As soon as you did the 10 wash test I knew I had to subscribe to you.
same
What is an IP solution?
Can you do a comparison on chemical guys heavy metal polish vs blue premium metal polish from dura coating can’t seem to find a video anywhere yet
Always use outside sunlight for reflection readings and not fluro lights or inside lighting for reflection readings?
Would love to know what you recommend for a best sheeter I’m fed up of water spots on my car
honestly any good quick detailer applied every other day for a few days, keep it dusted and clean , there is no magic bullet when it comes to this stuff, its about how many times you do it, and if you keep the car clean, notice he didnt prep the area , or at least he didnt show us he did, i.e wash , clay bar, and depending on your paint one thing might now work over another, try the turtle wax ceramic stuff, after a good foam wash, i think you will like it
GordyCOD turtle wax seal n shine for that base protection and beading. Top it off with turtle wax ICE spray wax. Slick and low price especially if you keep the vehicle garaged. I use the turtle wax spray detail after in between washes. $25-$30 max for all 3 combined
The Chemical guys had a pre application average of 81.5 gloss rating.
And finished with a higher number.
I’m a bout to add it now and see how it do in the tropical weather storm that’s coming Tomorrow
I wouldn't use either. Both look to be a pain in removing and I like sheeting.
I don't know that I have ever heard you say, what is your favorite "Sheeting" product?
Serious question because I'm trying to think back to all your other videos:
When you get to your final thoughts section, do you actually give an over view of your final thoughts of the products throughout this process? Or are you just asking viewers for theirs?
For this video...as I paused to ask several times throughout... I was looking for YOUR views for a change.
I guess this will be the last time you ask someone to think for themselves B!
More than welcome in forming my own opinion. What works for me and what my expectations are. I was simply confused by this section of the video however; was expecting Brian's honest opinion since he's one of the few with an unbiased opinion (which is taken into consideration).
Mikey... I especially wanted to know what everyone thought of the gloss meter readings at the end. Never mind.
@@apexdetail85 The past few weeks I've been dumbfound on how the gloss readings increase after these tests....To say the least on M27 however, I was fairly let down on how it goes toe-to-toe with Chemical Guys. I was more than impressed with Megs Ceramic Detailer on my coated car (more than Carpro Elixer, Beadmaker, Ech20, and C2V3) so I was hoping M27 would stand above the rest with Meg's Si02 product line push, but the price seems justifiable when comparing the two here.
Bryan what do you recommend for factory black wheels?
I know Buff n Shine 3 inch wool grip pads are on back order. I use them to polish 22.5 alcoa wheels while they are on the trailer and tractor. I would say Meguiar's won on that level. Maybe a later date video do the best hybrid ceramic wax vs IGL F4. I can't wait to use LVR 403 with IGL F4.
Just did power lock plus and 845 on my car today! Haven’t food a better combo yet
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Did you clay and polish first or just use the PW & 845 ? I just got the PW -845. Combo today so I’m curious
Thanks
Meguiar's looked to far slightly better but looked like it lost some gloss at the end a little. I'd say they are both very close!
Can you review the chemical guys cherry wet wax, butter wet wax, and insta wax?
Brian - I would love to see the Meguiars up against Powerlock! Would be interesting to see how the si02 makes any difference.
Seems like a nice product but I just stick with the Meguiars Ultimate line.
Neither! Shine Supply Slick Back primer followed by their Clutch or Daddy O. Both are amazing. A shine on par with the Wolfgang Füzion Carnauba-Polymer Estate Wax that a buddy who details cars for a living came by with years ago. Only difference is that stuff doesn't last long as it's a traditional wax.
what is the ip solution?
In earlier videos you showed us a small (2 or 3”) compressed air polisher. What’s the difference between using compressed air vs. an electric drill with the same backing plates and pads?
I have hard water in my area. What product would you suggest that sheets water rather then bead? Thank you! I just came across your channel and I have SUBSCRIBED!
The mirror shine from Torque detail is a good shelter. Runs about $40 on their site and Amazon. It’s a sealer with wax "hybrid" their marketers call it..
Curious if you would put an actual coating through this test. Some coatings in my experience don’t hold up to alkaline cleaners like others may. Would just be cool to see how much better it really is.
ive got 5 coats of Megauirs ultimate on my 2020 Grand Cherokee / from this test i think the Chemical guys is the best product!
Sheeting for me. Beading dries in the sun leaving calcium deposits.
This makes sense but the beads fly off the car when your driving.
T O’Rourke What do you use for sheeting? Would love to know as I’m fed up of water spots
i would love to know too
dry the car and you will not have calcium deposits ya knuckle head
What's the highest gloss reading you ever received for a single product? And for a spray product? Thx
Been using Megs gold class liquid carn wax and beadmaker on top love the combo
Great vid Brian!!
I'll stick with seal and shine for a little while 😎👍🏻
Brian I really don’t like beading. What’s a really good shedding product for protection? Oh that has a good price. Thanks
Slim Sampy you “don’t like beading” what the hell? That sounds silly.
Stephen Johnson why does what I like have to sound silly? Have you ever heard everyone likes what they like?
@@slimsampy4764 I'm with you on that - sheeting is far better than beading. Beading holds contaminants to then sit on the vehicle - sheeting will carry them off. I, too, prefer sheeting. Beading tells you nothing about protection.
Mark Winchester 👍🏽 I hate all the water dots or every time it rains I can’t see out of my mirrors because it’s beads of water.
I'm a Meguiar's fanatic so I'm biased. I have yet to buy anything from Chemical Guys since Meguiar's hasn't failed me yet.
Is there a single product you believe meguiars does best or least best for the money? I haven't given them much of a chance but people like their products and I am open to trying new things
@@scottmattern482 Meguiars makes a product for literally everything, in every situation and they really set the standard. I have yet to find a Meguiars product that has disappointed me, sure they aren't top dog in every catagory, but I'd say an easy top 5 in every type of detailing product. That's a feat I don't think any other company can even come close to. So try literally any of their stuff, you'll find something you like for sure
@@americainmuscle3456 thanks for the thoughtful feedback. I've used some of their products and have been satisfied. Tonight I am doing some teo stage polishing maybe a little wet sanding on my brother in laws car. I will be using ultimate polish, but its the only meguiars product I have at the moment. Are you pretty exclusive to Meguires or do you occasionaly grab a random other brand product then end up back with megs?
@@scottmattern482 I got a few brands I like, such as chemical guys, and car pro, but Meg's makes up probably 50% of my range. As for ultimate polish it's a great glaze, not a great polish one thing that confuses alot of people is Meguiars calls glazes polishes and actual polishes "cleaners" not sure why but it's just what they do. This took me a long time to figure out 😂 If you want a true Meg's polish the ultra pro finishing polish is what I would recommend. As for other brands car pro reflect is a comparable option. I haven't used to many other polishes cause the Meg's ultra finishing has never let me down
@@scottmattern482 if your going to be wet sanding, do the 210 and 110 combo after. That's would bring much better results I would think
Something is off in this test . Gloss clearly went up when the products were applied and went even higher when they were stripped ? What gives ?
Chemical guys to me lasted longer but again was only 1 wash then it became a tie. But $40 compare to $20 well that alone speaks for itself. Awesome job and your monatone was dead on not leading to one or the other, true referee you are.
Hello Brian. M27 for me 😁.
Me I love the distribution bottles and the new design of the meguiar's M27 !, even other meguiar's products for that matter. They made a big effort on the presentation I think, more professional! I also like the visual of the brand, this is just as important to me. Strongly also the tests of the coating M788 ceramic paint coating of meg's, I hope you will give it a try !?, and even why not a match of coating meguiar's M188, M688 and M788, to see the real improvements. but maybe I ask a lot 😉
When I hear Chemical Guys and Adams .. I think overpriced automatically..
With that being said 🐢 Wax S&S is just too good and priced right
Adams is the same overpriced average product as chemical guys
agreed, and man many many videos showing them do far betters than chem guys and adams, again they just have better advertising
fr thats why i dont buy their polish or waxes, the chemical guys one in this video is 40 dollars, ill stick with my meguires ceramic wax, but you know im brand loyal like alot of people with products, otherside i love chemical guys soaps specifically their watermelon for my foam cannon
From my experience Adam's is a premium product that has superior nuances (eg great smell, ease of use), if not appreciated, isnt worth the full MSRP. Nor have I ever bought an Adam's product at full MSRP and often has at least a 20% discount. Chemical guys has a very good line of water based products that are actually safe to work with and safe for materials they are being applied to. Granted you should expect less performance from water based products, but you will live long enough to keep enjoying detailing your car. You get what you pay for, generally in life. Nothing wrong with trying to get the best bang for the buck, but price and longevity should only be part of deciding on a product. If you want the cheapest for nice longevity, go for turtlewax. If you want a pleasant experience with premium products, then pay a few extra dollars and go for Adams , CG, or try one of the boutique manufacturers and pay an arm and leg. I suggest people be more open minded and honestly look at pros and cons of different products, not just decide to hate an entire line because you can get a cheaper product at Walmart. You can get running shoes at Walmart too, but I bet you spring for something a little more quality, comfortable, and stylish despite the financial cost. Nor is it wise to stereotype an entire brand because of one product or anecdotal bad experiences, think for yourself. I'm not saying one brand has superior product over another, but they certainly have different products at different price points based on manufacturing difficulty and raw material cost. There is a reason Adam's CS3 spray costs more than Eagle One spray and shine, if you appreciate those reasons is another thing.
@@sylermran $40, but that bottle will do my truck five times over…2.5 years of protection… not a crazy price - assuming you believe in the products effectiveness in the first place.
What are "Shitting Products" instead of beading?
pep boys has hydro slick on sale for $22-$23
That should be the retail price
wow thats almost half of what detail garage sells it for
It’s unfortunate that there are no subtitles for your video. I will be glad to follow your channel if there are subtitles .. I'm just limited to hearing. I wish you good luck and success.
I know this is a year later, but perhaps it will still be useful to you. He basically doesn’t say anything super important, other than that you should view the results on camera for yourself and make up your own mind about price and performance of each product. In the end they’re very similar on almost all accounts.
Hey Brian I'm in South Texas. Curious about the limitations of polishing in the sun. I'm mobile so I don't have a dedicated space if my own to do it in. Appreciate any tips!
Buck Slaughter I have a video that shows the best ways to polish in sun and high heat.
th-cam.com/video/myyMQTE-QJ0/w-d-xo.html
Got a link for you all
Hi Brian, Thanks for getting back to me about the burn through (can't always trust meters). While waiting for the body shop, I went through the rest of the car. Used lvr 503 with 50/50 pad, then lvr 403 with a white polishing pad and it came out like glass. Now protection... was thinking of TW ceramic spray but hear more about Seal and Shine. Really liked the green Vette and thought on the Hydro slick...until today. Do not have the facilities for an actual ceramic coating (just a carport). Will I have to polish the 403 to prep it for a coating or is it ok after it cures? Can't see it looking much better than it does now so dont want to take a step back on gloss. Any ideas or suggestions welcome. We appreciate your input since we are bombarded with brands "latest and greatest" constantly and cannot afford to try everything that comes out. Thank you for everything you do for us and stay safe.
Was there not enough interest to do the themed details from stores like wal mart and auto zone or did I miss that follow up video
I'm leaning toward Hydroslick.
I would like to see it up against collinite 845 and the Great white hi temp wax.
Pardon my ignorance, what is an "IP" solution? I probably know it by a different moniker. Thanks...
Also, I wish you had been a bit more demonstrative in the end, showing better angle of depth of shine, "slide test," beading/sheeting, etc.. There is too much lacking in the camera viewer to make a completely unaided decision on our own. Too subjective. But thanks.
All that said, I'd pick the hydro-shine, from what little I could pick out.
@@yanniobkirk5744
Aaahhh *slaps forehead* just never called it by initials. Thanks!
I wish I could see a bit better, to my untrained eye.
Anyway, I ended up with Mirror Shine to use on my new GMC. Washed it, clay barred it and applied the Mirror shine, smooth as a baby's hiney, and sheds water well. :)
Great videos. Appreciate your time and expertise.
Recently subscribed! I have 1 question: I purchased the Meguiars Ceramic liquid wax ( yellow bottle). Do you recommend applying the product with an orbital buffer vs hand application? ( I already clay barred my 2019 Challenger with Mothers Clay bar kit.) . Thank you!
Hey Brian,looking forward to the vette vid,anyway Adams came out with CS3 a new 3 in 1 waterless wash, Detailer and protectant, can you look into this and see what it’s all about. Stay safe and healthy.
Going to stick with the offerings from TW. Looking forward to vette vids.
Amazon charges me shipping for the Meguiar's which makes the price within a less than one dollar difference for me.
Meguiars is what I’m rolling with bc it’s doing the same thing so it don’t make sense to pay $40 for something that cost $20 and does the same EXACT thing but that’s just me.
Nice video ! Want to see Meguiar's Fast Finish vs Sonax Profiline Netshield :)
does rear end work and social distance really work.lol.could help myself.hope all get a kick out of that.hope all Apex detailing family are doing well and safe..
Thanks Brian you & Jr be safe as well. Question the same as asked before what would be a good sheeting product for us weekend detailers?
Can you do a review of sonax speed protect spray wax?
You should do a review of Wolfgang SiO2 paint sealant
While M27 is a relatively new product - and perhaps similar to some you have compared it with, testing/comparing their M788 product would be more useful. I expect it to be a much better product, but perhaps your intent is to compare the halfway coatings, that are more easily applied.
Was it a decontaminated panel? The Hydro Slick tells you that you need to have a clayed and polished panel free of contamination. That's where the results come from. The Hydro Slick is absolutely amazing if you do the work before that step. Just saying.
did you watch the video? granite he didn’t clay but he did polish
Neither Brian, I'm waiting to see how you like LVR 357 Magnum wax and I just bought a bunch of Blackfire product to try as its 50% off today at Autogeek. Thanks again for your commitment to all us viewers and subscribers.
Waiting as well.
I tried the Blackfire line - the whole line - was careful with prep, etc. In my opinion it's a big waste of money and I didn't like how it applied. I've tried a lot of decent to great products. Blackfire is a house brand and I was very disappointed with the results. We have three black vehicles, so I get lots of practice - and lots of complements on how they look.
@@wileec5939 Thank you for sharing your experience, I've been wondering how well their products work and pulled the trigger yesterday with the sale, I was never going to try them at full price, hopefully they've improved since then, if not well at least I only paid half price
@@denniscolyn5435 no problem - and let me be clear. Each car can be different - I was wanting this product for a new to us Audi A4 and it just wasn't the right fit. I ended up using CG products and have gotten a great result.
@@wileec5939 You're absolutely right about every car being different, and knowing what to use on each of them is what separates the pros from the rest.
Thanks Bryan!
I have a soft spot in my heart for chemical guys as their products introduced me to the detailing world. I still like their butter wet wax, shampoos, and black light glaze. They lost me with jet seal, i can't get that to last more than a couple months, I will probably skip their SiO2 line. Meguiars hasn't blown me away with any single product. I'm sticking to a mostly Adam's polishes, some griots garage, and turtle wax's - seal n shine/ice spray wax/wax & dry combo is my favorite for the price. Thanks for the tests, you have helped me so much!
Try CG GlossWorkz Ultimate Glaze - I find it much better than Blacklight, which I still have to get used up. The Glossworkz fills in the fine stuff even better. Then I like to top it with a sealant and a wax or two. I find CG products better than Griots. Haven't tried Adams - prefer Mequiars professional products, though store stuff is solid, at least with what I have tried.
@@wileec5939I am about to get long winded, warning. griots heavy duty wheel cleaner is good, they have quality sprayers too. I actually bought my dad that cg glaze you're speaking of for a deep red truck he has, I but haven't tried it myself, yet. I was at walmart recently and they had a very nice selection of cg stuff. That's what I am interested in, the widely available products that work well. I am fortunate enough that Adam's Polishes has a warehouse/store under an hour drive with heavy traffic, from me. Adam's Polishes certainly makes quality product. It certainly costs more than stuff at autozone. If you get it on sale its totally worth it, no question. If you pay full price for Adam's, then you better be appreciating the fine nuances within their product that most would fail to appreciate. However, I asked really nice, just today, they made me a special 15mm swirl killer mystery box - gave me a few towels, polish, clay bar, a few pads, wash, spray wax, wheel cleaner, iron remover, and more that I am forgetting - along with the 15mm throw DA machine for $200. So, Adam's customer service is fantastic which is worth paying a little more, especially since Adam himself is their asking me if I need help about half the time I happen to go shopping there. However, it's a trip across the metro passing dozens of auto part stores or ordering online which fails my need for instant gratification. Sounds like I should look at Meguires more closely.
@@scottmattern482 I know how to get long winded, too - but will resist the urge. I learned from CG early on and have tried far too many of their products. Now I only get the ones I like - and by the gallon. Same for Mequair's. That said, while I like some of the Meguiar's pro products, I'm working to use them up, and settling on fewer products. Cool that Adam's has taken care of you. In truth, I've learned the most from Larry C, from AMMO NYC and his products are quite good, too. That said, I find myself using more CG than any other, then the best of what has worked for me from other brands. I get all my CG from big sales with them, or on Amazon, for a single item - often that is discounted. The CG MicroFiber wash has done wonders for keeping all of those in tip top and soft shape. Ultimately, I think it's better to find a brand system and run with it, especially in terms of protection. One can't know that mixing brands will have good adhesion among the different brands. We have three very different vehicles - but all black, so I figure out how well something works quickly. And we have real winters with snow and ice and a vehicle that is always outside, so lots of practice on my end. Cheers! P.S. My favorite detailer is CG Synthetic Quick Detailer - it provides more pop and depth and slickness than any other detailer I have tried. In the winter, I prefer to only use a local manual car wash, and with high pressure soap, rinse and their wax, then finished with the CG after dry - I don't have to touch vehicles with a brush at all. Less contact, less chance of fine scratches. Larry C AMMO vids really helped me to develop best practice for keeping my clear coat in best shape as long as possible.
Oh - and I love the Griot foam sprayer (not the hose kind). I load it up with Optimum's ONR and it's great for a quick removal of fine dusting on car. We have lots of agriculture and development in our area, so just sitting outside for a few days can have our black vehicles hazed up. This works great - then I follow it with the CG Synthetic Quick Detailer and then wait for the complements. ;-)
Love you Brian! Be safe!
Brian, overall I think Meguiar held up the best I felt.