2014 Subaru Forester XT Muddy Off-Road Drive & Review
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The new 2014 Subaru Forester 2.0XT is a family hauler with the ground clearance of a Jeep Wrangler and Subaru's well know symmetric all-wheel-drive system. Recently we took the 2014 Subaru Forester off-road in one of the worst Colorado snow storms of the year and we quickly go the Forester stuck. Without proper snow tires, this unfair to the Forester so we waited a few days until the snow melted and tried again in the mud. How did the new 2014 Subaru Forester do when the trail turned muddy and very wet. Watch this off-road review to find out.
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I work at a Subaru dealership and drive these every day. They handle like a sports car and they go like one too. I really like these and I might get one when my car is payed off.
True dat :-).
“This is not light off-roading.” As he drives up what is essentially a bumpy dirt road.
Why test drive a car with a CVT and complain about it when it comes in a standard transmission and make it a major point of why you dislike the car. Seems like they are having to make up reasons to not buy a forester
danmarcelino They don't get a choice what car Subaru sends them.
Try one with manual transmison. You will see the difference. AT is not for this conditions. Try MT.
danmarcelino The forester XT only comes with a CVT, no manual transmission option. (at least here in the states there isn't.)
tyson505 buy one from canada then hahaha
+danmarcelino because subaru only offers the forester XT with a cvt, just like they only offer a CVT on the XV, outback and levorg except for the entry level specs, they should really learn to make a 6 or more speed auto or offer a manual on all spec levels because frankly, it's seriously disappointing that a manufacturer that makes/ made awesome cars like the WRX STI and the old legacy and with a great rally history now only offers dreary and boring CVT cars
What's up with the lack of sound!? Made it almost unwatchable!
Samuel Bomorse probably used music they weren’t allowed to lol kinda lame
Wouldn't have been so bad if his lips weren't moving during the dead zones
I pressed mute from the start.
That guy clearly doesn't know anything about subaru's.
Average What do you mean? What did he say incorrectly?
horrible reviewer ive tested this car and i comes with a harmon kardon 8 speaker surround that sounds amazing and the transmission has 8 gears on sport# when you wanna really push it! it's a shame that this guy would review a car so capable and say that he wants older transmission and diff's and has a horrible stereo system.
I'd give it a Buy It because who needs fancy pandora or nav systems. Everyone that has a smartphone has that already. This car will stand the test of time and it'll still be going after 100 or even 200 thousand miles.
Eric M smartphones are exactly why I don't want built-in nav and special radio apps. Give me HD radio, bluetooth, USB, and aux (which just about all modern cars have) and I'm happy. I'd rather take care of everything else myself. Besides, if you intend to keep the car for 20 years, what are you going to do when one of those services gets outdated?
Great point! My mom just bought the 2015 Forester XT, yes I convinced her to buy a turbocharged model XD, but it's not the Touring. Who needs leather, nav, and all that fancy crappy? She already has her Garmin!
xCkillaxC oh and if you want to see it, I posted it on my ig page @awd_alliance
I think I spent the whole video waiting for the mud pit only to find out you didn't want to get stuck.
Thanks for saving me 10 minutes of my life
From an owners stand point, a Subaru is the way to go for a super reliable car, safe, relatively cheap, and of pretty good quality. Repping a 2003 Impreza OBS, I bought the car with intentions of it being my "first winter beater" type car. I never driven a Subaru prior to purchasing my OBS, but on the test drive, I fell in love. The car felt tight to the road, a little zippy, and come on; a 2.5L getting 28 MPG? My wallet is more than happy! I purchased the car for $3900, spent about $200 in random parts, and I have a long list of modifications I want to do to it. Subaru isn't kidding about their slogan: "Love. It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru." I will be purchasing many more of these cars in the future, for these do more than fit my needs and style.
Wait until it needs head gaskets and you're pulling the motor
Edit: I owned a 2002 outback and other subarus, also wrenched at a dealer for a while
Estoy por comprarme un subaru forester 2019 o 2020 depende cual me den mejor precio, pero mi hermano dice que me compre la crv honda, no me gusta, me gusta subaru y definitivamente lo amare, ya que este sera mi primer carro con mi esposa
If he took the time to read the owners manual on the car or a quick reference guide for the vehicle. Maybe he would go to the correct menu for the radio. They do this all the time give bad information on vehicles because they don't know what they're doing. So sad
possibly one of the worst reviews i have seen. Great car, awful host. Quite a shame cuz these cars are really good.
Good review! You guys are one of the only reviewers who actually take vehicles off-road in real life. It would be interesting if one day you could set up a comparison on the same vehicle between all seasons and mud or snow tires. I know you did one before with the wrangler and mazda 6 but it would be interesting to see all the variables removed with the same car. Keep up the good work!
We love the engine. Smooth and powerful. We can't wait until if and when they stick in into the next STI. That will be one hell of a ride.
i own a 2016 outback , 2.5 the transmission is fine, its only there opion, good power,
Thanks for asking. You are welcome to embed, or post these videos as you like to your web site, facebook and such but you cannot copy or re-upload them.
Great idea. We would love to do that but we only get the car for a week so we don't have access to it now.
My Mom has a 2015 Forester and there are things I like and things I hate. I hate the acceleration lag (turbo and CVT related), lack of memory seats, odd material choices and the god-awful infotainment system. I'm glad that Subaru is going to use the same system in the Outback and other vehicles. Everything else I really love.
I checked Subaru with their info. You're right. Subaru said that it prefers premium fuel with their turbo engines, but not required.
Testing any vehicle off road with road tires is flat out stupid. We know what it can do with road tires. Put the proper tires on it and see where you can go.
To that effect, I don't care for CVTs either. The fuel efficiency gains seem minimal. The new WRX, which uses the same engine as the Forester XT, gets better mileage out of the manual than the CVT.
the 2014 legacy with a true auto gets 32mpg the 2015 with the cvt gets 36. i dont know as much about the forester since we own the legacy but 4mpg is not a minimal difference at all. i dont love the cvt for a lot of reasons id rather an 8 speed auto but for the vast majority of people the cvt will be absolutely fine and 36 mpg with all wheel drive is almost unheard of
Ryan Partlow 4 MPG IS pretty minimal.
So he should buy AT’s for every vehicle he reviews? Do you think before you write stupid shit?
first of all learn how to drive, before you go knocking the best all-wheel drive made.
subaru is the best period!
Art Craven I agree 👍🏻👍🏻
And get 23 mpg
@@Divinityiscalling headgasket problems existed untill 2007 and was only for the 2.5l engines.
The CVT is set well and has nothing to do with a head gasket?
Please dont speak if u dont know what u r speaking!
@@Divinityiscalling my dad drove a 99 Forester for 10 years 300k miles and the car runs like new. Regular maintenance and a center diff reapir and that was all. Also its internet here not the USA. You may have a keyboard to write comments but do u have knowledge?
@@moonsapling wow your dad is quite lucky. I think youtube stands with the idea of free speech since their headquarters are located in california. Also tfl is an american channel. You dont have to take things so personally, i was just making a joke about a subie!!
Huge Car, tons of room for me and my gear.
Nope that's fine. Please be so kind as to give us credit and/or a link back to TFLcar. Thanks
Yup, we get that a lot from viewers that's why we put out this simple challenge: watch?v=zxvI5mw63EI Funny...no one has yet taken us up on it.
If the new models last as long as the older ones screw the leasing... I have an '01 with currently 277+K on it....lol Ive taken it on some fun advents but it really depends on what you want to use it for. lol I rip older 4.0 mustangs off the line with the awd and yet I am still getting 27+ miles to the gallon...
Thank you Stephen.
Cmon Subaru, more manual transmissions please. We all know in 10 years times pretty much all autos fall apart whereas manuals might just need a new clutch and synchros.
Spencer Howard Love my manual transmission 2015 Forester!
Subaru offers the best autos in the industry, they last 400k+ miles on average. The CVT, not quite so.
While I totally agree with you on the whole manual transmission thing, my back and knee problems made it a chore to drive daily, regardless of the vehicle.
I'm just tired of shifting the gears.
If I had the money, I'd have two vehicles. My daily automatic and my off work fun one.
I dont do a lot of miles so a CVT would do just fine, and although I prefer a manual shift, as one other put it, its less trouble on the knees and legs etc, im not so young anymore and in traffic this would be relaxing
The CVT isn't near as bad as you play it out to be and there are paddle shifters with simulated, but pretty natural feeling gearing if you really want that kind of feel and control anyway. I have the new XT and mostly just use the paddles for engine braking when going down steeper hills. Dont understand why people are so stuck on manuals, especially when it comes to off-roading type of stuff. The 5spd in my WRX was horribly inneffective trying to start from a stop going up steep icy stuff
I just bought my Subaru couple of weeks ago and I love it
I don't even have "hill descent control" and I could fly through any of that in my 2015 Forester. Drove it through a 2-ft snow storm in the Sierra last winter and was able to go places Land Rovers weren't going. I actually was stopping and helping people in SUVs that got stuck. If you don't have the right tires on ANY car, it will have trouble.
i have an 09 xt and we drove the new one a few weeks ago. the stability control system is excellent interior materials have improved significantly but i think fit and finish is better in the 09. The cvt is very good especially in sport sharp with it's simulated 8 speed manumatic. we managed a zero to 100 km/h in 6.7 seconds with two large adults in the car and a full tank of fuel. it's much faster from a rolling start than a stand still to prevent cvt slip. lastly the tires are shit!
I am going to watch this later, but thanking you guys in advance for yet another great video!
His reviews are not the best. He's offroad driving sucks. This video starts at the 02:00 pt. All preceding is AdVerTising
Can I get a link to your superior reviews?
My neighbor purchased a 16 Outback top edition with the PZEV. It's a 2.5L with the CVT. It sits comfy, rides like a Mercedes, and is super quiet. My neighbor loves the 4WD because he went to Niagara Falls and he encountered snow and said he didn't sense any wheelslip. Since my first ride in a Subaru, I actually like it.
At 3:20 Roman states that " This trail is not Camry worthy" but the Forester seems to be doing quite well at that point..... At 4:00/5:30/6:00 Roman states " This vehicle has standard all season tires" and not mud/snow tires. At 6:30 Roman states "This is a
hard core Colorado Trail." At 8:00 Roman states "There is no substitute for having great tires....." At 10:15 Roman states that is about as far as all season tires will take the
Subaru without getting stuck. I'm not sure what else anyone could expect from a vehicle with such humble origins.................
Agreed,,,,,,,
He's like Jeremy Clarkson. This episode's car is the "best EVER!" ;)
lmao my driveway is worse then that trail and both my outbacks run our mudhole road so much better then my 96 jeep cherokee . goina try this summer to film my daily drive through it
BTW, you can use the steering wheel controls to change the Nav head's radio/sat/CD modes and to walk up or down the stations. Those really help one work around the klugey touch screen.
I enjoy your reviews and this one is probably the best of all the Jeeps you have done so far.
;)
You told us that it has crappy tires for offroading 6 times. I and hopefully others got the message after the first time.
Imagine how well this car would do with even a 2" lift and some better off road tires.
There is a whole world of TH-cam channels out there showing you *exactly* how awesome these cars are with a lift kit and some big tires. They are very capable even stock.
Imagine what this little guy could do with a lift kit and all terrain tires
We went in the mud pit. The poor photographer got soaked. Please keep in mind that this is a real trail and not a mud pit competition with a man made mud pit.
That's perfect because we have a great challenge just for you. Check it out: watch?v=zxvI5mw63EI
I don't think a single car reviewer likes a CVT transmission.
Kabloosh they must get paid to hate. Like consumer has a choice, Subaru, Nissan, Honda, instead of hating tell ppl how to handle them.
I’ve had the XT now 4 years and 68,000 kilometre later…. Love the CVT, l even tow a 1.6 ton caravan around Australia, off road and never had one mechanical issues. With the right tyres it goes anywhere best all round vehicle l have ever owned. The turbo is in short an awesome motor. I usually upgrade ever 3 yrs or 60k on clock however l have not found a replacement car as good as the 2017/18 XT, l am so disappointed Subaru has not released another turbo version….. CVT gearbox reversed caravan up off road dirt track no problem also in 45 degree heat, up and down steep hills no issue. This this does all very good oh and let me put a myth to bed, it changes faster than my mates manual so CVT l rate.
Come to the swamp here is Florida and see what mud looks like.
You could probably get a set of older 16 inch Subaru wheels and run a set of General Grabber AT2s and have a larger sidewall with more traction for off-roading. Lot's of guys do this with the previous gen Forester. You'd have to get TPMS sensors for each wheel though.
Honestly I believe TIRES make all the difference.
Lets face it, these are non challenging trails in this video, that dont require 4wd,
and AWD would suffice just fine.
With proper mud tires, the Subie would be fine.
They absolutely do🤙🏻
Complains about the how slow it is to change the station; ignores the category select mode accessible on the stereo or the steering wheel. Instead opts to stab the touch screen over a hundred times. *eyeroll*
Could use better tires for sure. Especially in the mud. That said, Subie handled it just fine. I remember viewing the video when he got stuck in the snow. The car was doing just fine and when it started to pull through, the driver slammed on the brakes and it lost traction and slid down the ditch. Not the cars fault. Also not the right tires.
you guys should review the subaru forester 2.5i sub-model with a manual transmission to compare full package to basic package
Have to agree with the review. Subaru have got it wrong with their latest Forester. The Car looks good but here in Australia the 2009-2012 S3 Forester (normally aspirated) was superior as a vehicle for all conditions. Firstly It was available in 5 speed manual, the latest has that rubbish CVT. The S3 had Hi-Lo range transmission, gone in the latest version. The S3 had the 2.5 boxer, the latest has the gutless 2.0. The S3 had 16inch rims with 165 tyres, a much better all round package. Subaru is treating it customers like they are stupid, we don't want RAV4's or CRV's. Get real Subaru.
Might be a Aussie thing... My 2014 is a 2.5 and a manual....
Wow that is a blow off to a great all around car. And it would help if he knew how to work the radio.
Amen! If one was looking to climb the Alps in a car, then maybe the test should have included appropriate tires. My first suspicion was when he didn't set the X-Drive until after he was bogged down in snow, in an earlier review.
And, FWIW, the radio has a direct tune function, with a 10-key pad. Is it the latest, swoopiest User Interface? Decidedly not. Does it do everything it's supposed to do? Absolutely! Also, whoever this guy is didn't bother to notice if the multi-band equalizer had been tweaked to either overemphasize the bass or muffle the treble. Actually, I doubt if he knows the audio system has one, with 10 or so customizable sound presets for voice, classical,or anything one might prefer. There's an old saying among techs: RTFM, where R=Read, and M=Manual. Fill in the rest! Good call though, Randy. I agree wholeheartedly.
I loooove Foresters and STI's . I own both 2015's
Sexually transmitted infections aren't something to be proud of, you should get STI treated by your doctor.
Spencer Howard well considering he got a 2015 STI, I don't think doctors have found a treatment for it yet.
Good,congratulations, I’m glad to see that
I was watching to see how far it would go but then he pussied out. Autos are actually very good off road due to being more gentile, even though I prefer a manual due to the fun factor. The CVT is designed to put the revs where it is needed and it has a paddle shift for if you prefer to select a gear. Don't just rely on xmode as a one shoe fits all. There may be situations where it is better to turn off traction control instead. A big part of traction in muddy situations is tyre choice. It doesn't look like those jeeps had standard factory tyres fitted, so why should you? Letting a bit of air out of the tyres could help a bit as well. Half the fun of going off road is to see how far you can go, get stuck, reassess the situation then conquer; which can be just as much fun in a soft roader as a jacked up, highly modded jeep. It would have been nice to show the limits of the forester but I guess we won't find out from this video.
Can't let too much air out of low profile tires before the rims are getting beaten up by the trail debris.
I completely agree with you, I was trying to see the real challenges this Subaru could take, since I mean, he only drove past a couple puddles and some rocks so nothing big
Put the right tires on that Subaru and I guarantee it's gonna go anywhere those Jeep's went.
I have a 2018 Subaru Forester XT. Bought it 10 months ago and racked on a whopping 28,000 miles. Zero problems with the engine or transmission. Wife loves the CVT because the engine doesn’t rev high like most traditional automatic transmissions in normal drive mode.
why do american guys always speak badly about japanese cars? I guess because they know japanese are better. try the same trail in a escape, trax or a patriot..
And these reviews seldom seem to take the American CUVs off-road but by golly that CR-V isn't a real off-roader b/c it doesn't have locking differentials!
My old CR-V has gone some pretty interesting places with its "lesser" AWD system. And it's now 300K miles old, original clutch, etc. Been a good little family hauler and weekend camping vehicle. Nope - won't crawl rocks but it would easily do everything the new Forester did in this video.
Will probably be looking at this Forester for our next vehicle b/c it is the only small SUV with a manual transmission left in the US market. I don't want an automatic and definitely don't want a CVT.
Americans are jealous as the whole world is developing around them faster than they think. Japanese beat americans on the day when they built their first TOYOTA, 60 years ago.
We've already review it. Go to TFlcar or search our TH-cam channel.
Yes, We know You can not drive, TFL. Just like many others drivers on the roads. 🤣
Not if you are moving
I really hope you could test the cvt... i mean really test it out, abuse it, trash it, and see how much it can take.
That black Cherokee at the end sounds like a garden tractor, lol!
At least try going all the fucking way up the hill. Why the fuck did I watch this?!?
I know this video is quite old, but if you had proper tires, how far do you think it could have gone?
SHIT TESTS , NO OFF ROAD
Roman still likes the Outback better.
you ever think of redoing this test with Geolandar A/T-S tires?
Here's an idea. If you want to feel the road underneath you, get out and walk.
FYI - My 2015 Forester XT Turbo has a much better entertainment system than this one, with real buttons and 440 watts to the 8 Harmon Kardon speakers.
im from Australia, outback Australia. We have a Nissan patrol wagon and we have a 2.5 tonne camper van and that is like the roads we take to get near our site. then its twice as hard to get in it lol
yeah, lets describe the tire size as "18 inch"....
no hood scoop wtf
Yeah they ditched it for a front-mount intercooler I think. I like the hood scoop better.
***** Its still TMIC. They integrated the scoops
Impressive the forester went there, considering it is a soft off roader.
more so for gravel/flat tracks/bumpy rally roads..
it'll beat the other SUVs//cars on a rally track :P
there are steering wheel controls that can help scrolling, but granted, those icons and their interface need work.
Your videos are fantastic guys, but just a little constructive criticism when testing AWD & off road capabilities you really need to make sure the X drive AWD option is engaged as well as your ford escape video testing its AWD with summer tires... I mean it kinda defeats the entire purpose of the video
Joke of an off road test. A Geo Metro could do that.
i love subaru. but.... this CVT really really really hurt my feeling..... this is the only reason that stop me to buy 2014 Forester XT. i just wanna wait see what gonna happen next..... even 5AT is batter than any CVT(performance). im sure right now Forester is a great family SUV.
Or you could use the ummmm voice recognition and just 'say' the station!!!
Hey! Can you guys do a proper review on the 4Runner Trail? Thanks! Love the vids, keep it up
Nathan u guys need to review the Jeep wrangler mw3 call of war 4x4 edition now those jeeps r hot
Thank you guys for what you doing.. I do really like your job a lot.
I was wonder, when you will be bringing the new Toyota Rav4 2013 to off road..
why are locking differentials better than Subaru's AWD system?
Aren't Subaru's usually reliable? I still see old ones on the road.
Yes, you can generally expect 300-400k miles out of a Subaru.
Here in the Netherlands, we don't really need Subarus, let alone off-road ones, but of all the Subarus ever sold in this country, 98% is still on the road. Driving, I mean, because they also go off-road every now and then ;-) Finding second hand spare parts for a Subaru is a pain, because they simply don't end up on the scrap-yard. (Those are full with German, French and Italian brands. Americans brands are rare here, because we have bends and curves in our roads.)
Unlike jeeps.
Nice little wagon for some trailriding. It would of been nice to see you get stuck just to see what the limit of the Forester is, if it was a bit tougher up that trail.
This vid showed me nothing I didn't know about. I can do all this and more in our 11 year old Forester. I was hoping you are going to push this one a bit further and see how far the CVT and the X mode can take it
Foz ? (I'm not sure what you mean). Anyway, in the world of CUV/crossovers, this Subaru is on the top of my list, especially with the XT (that model will only be around 10% of Subaru's sales). I'm looking at that or the Crosstrek as my choices.
It seems like Subaru is replacing mechanical bits like limited slip differentials with electronic aids which of course sucks. "No more turbo legacy sucks too" as does "no more WRX in the UK" which really sucks for the Brits. I wanted to see the forester try go up all the way up the hill. I'm curious about how far it would have gone. You should make Nathan do it when he's done galavanting about China.
For Sure
The lack of sound is seriously unprofessional lol
I don't know much about CVT but everything I hear says ... unwelcome.
Roman - can you please do a review of this machine driving in the snow with snow tires? That would be helpful for a buyer like me.
The same amount that Honda or Toyota are paying you to make this comment.
I want to take my Subaru on this road!
I could drive that trail better on a mountain bike...
I could drive that trail better on a bigwheel
I think he did praise the engine.. he complained about the CVT transmission. I myself would not buy this car just for that reason. CVT's SUCK. No feel of the car.. totally isolates you from the driving experience. They should have moved towards multi speed auto 6-8 speeds. and a manual option. Why get the turbo, and then kill it with no fun to drive option.
May be because most customers don't change the tires and want to know how far they can go with stock tires!!! But to me, the test could have be more extreme...what I saw is muddy water on packed ground...too easy!!!
He drives through a puddle. Wow.
This guy is such a dork. I dont think he's ever spun a set of tires in his life. Music is like being on hold for your electrical company and he doesnt say shit about the CARS! Just a poser who like wearing sunglasses and being on camera lol.
haha be a good dork and watch now its 2017
One good thing.. since it's an imported car, that stereo is a standard DIN style radio.. So swapping it out would be pretty easy, unlike the crappy CVT. The US built Outbacks have an integrated style stereo, and changing that is expensive, and often looks like crap after.
While the video was entertaining. You keep on harping about having the correct tires for the job....yet you clearly don't (which you stated), and keep on talking about how having the "real thing" instead of the x drive is better. Why not test the Forester with real off road tires to really test the x drive?
As it is, this video is only educational for those people who wish to go offroad with the Forester with crap tires instead of really informing us how the Forester really performs.
+Caramel Ham, that's all they ever do. That and the dumbass "Ike challenge." That and that Roman is really good at being a drama queen.
Subaru seems to have listened to Roman's XM complaints as a new map/navigation upgrade available for Foresters built before Sept '13 fixes the XM scrolling buttons so they actually scroll across stations. New maps, icon tweaks and other goodies also get applied. Nice that Subaru is listening to customers and improving products as they go!
The super slow motion scenes are awesome, you should do that more often.For example in your 0-60 videos where there is wheel spin at the start.