Exactly has Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Johny Unitas, or Rodger Staubach won an NVP? I think not.
@@samterraszas127 to the superbowl once still better than Browns, Lions, Texans, and Jags... Also won MVP when he split it with Peyton that one year...
@@glizzzerd when you lost to the rams, then proceeded to go 7-9 in 2001. Jimmy G brought the niners to the super bowl are you gonna classify him as an all time great as well?
Naw, some of the stuff Burrow was doing despite having literally 0 line was pretty damn impressive. I mean, hell he almost single handedly won them games against playoff contender teams like the Browns and Colts, only to be let down by their defense not being able to close out games. Plus only having like 5 picks in 10 games despite the amount of attempts they made him try behind no line is crazy. He obviously has to get the deep ball down, though that also requires having more than .0001 seconds before the pocket completely collapses.
@@gregtrust5599 Yeah main thing is I just hope that o line can actually protect Burrow this season. They made some pretty decent improvements but I'm still pretty worried about guard.
His deep ball did improve once the bangles stopped using empty so much and tried blocking with more then 5 guy that are shit at their job joe in college was one of the best deep ball throwers I have no doubt he will be great
I don’t get why people are so low on burrow all of a sudden, early on in the season last year it seemed like everyone thought he was good and now all of a sudden people think he will regress
Same here watching this during my lunch break after waking up at 4:30 to go to work. God bless Barry and his unwavering support of the troops and the working man! 🇺🇸🙌🏻
@@slammedbysky2999 not best greatest he is the goat and is a great qb but he is not the best rodgers has better stats on worse teams (btw rodgers outplayed the other qb in 4/5 nfc championship games
There's a lot of good analysis in this video. I think when you update it, you will acknowledge that Joe Burrow has indeed elevated his team in just his second season when they were the worst when they drafted him. Trevor Lawrence has been a disappointment thus far, but he was playing for Urban Meyer (as you mentioned) and is on a really bad team. He'll get better.
Not rlly man, he still has a lot to prove and to me personally, I just think he was lucky this year, not to hate he is a solid qb on most but winning on field goals wasnt my idea of proving hes a good qb
I will say, it's weird to say Mahomes elevates his team to a contender no matter who is around him when he has never not had elite recieving options. Not saying he's bad, just pump the brakes a little. The fact that I can both think that he is already in the conversation for greatest QB of all time and overrated says a lot about how he gets covered by media honestly.
Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers somehow never gets this compliment of elevating his team as if he's had suck great players aside from davante to throw to these last few mvp seasons
@@crazycolt1238 u right it did 😂 he had a few games were he didn’t look very good. And then they figured it out and are in a great position now 🤣 this proves you can’t overreact over a few games
This list was overall decent outside of the delusional Brady take. Brady played like a tier 2 guy last year. Tannehill had a better offense than him lol
@@kazokadas uhhh you do realize QBs historically struggle in the first year of Arian’s offense? Go look at how Carson Palmer and Roethlisberger did. They all threw a lot of INTs then did very well the following year. The only delusional people are those who think Brady got carried to the last SB win lmao
@@InertBrian he did get carried wym😂 not only by his team but the refs too. If you look at all his super bowl wins, he got seriously bailed out at some point in the playoffs most of the time.
@@spiderman4207 Bailed in the SB? You mean the refs making fair calls on both sides... most of the penalties were actually on the terrible Chief-O Line that would obviously get a lot of holding. Look at the Cowboys game last night, penalty on Chris Godwin for taunting, when he did nothing..
@@CriscoDaDragon8716 He gets credit for his defense forcing turnovers, his receivers being wide open from 3 yards and having everything he possibly needs to succeed. While other QBs are playing in bad situations and showing insane talent and physical attributes
Some of these rankings are good, and some aged like milk left in the sun. You should seriously consider updating this video and comparing this video to the next. I'd love to watch it.
It's not even Brady hate. Brady was 9th in QBR/passer rating and 8th in ANY/A last year with the best weapons in football. His tier ranking is appopriate for anyone taking an unbiased look at it.
Barry never played the sport he doesn’t know what he is watching, he got brainwashed by the media busting in their shorts every time rodgers beats up on the Detroit lions or some bad team only to fall apart in the playoffs when he has the 1st seed in the nfc
Facts held back by terrible ownership and sub par coaching dude is a baller and not many qb’s would have lasted or had the mental to preform week in and week out the way he did
Now after this last season he can erase the "can't lead a team to success part" He was very crucial on and off the field for the raiders success this last season. How many gaming winning drives did he persevere through with no head coach and won raiders the game?
Admire the Tannehill and Dak love, even though Lamar should be in that tier with them though, Tannehill is really good at finishing off drives and Dak has always been underrated accuracy-wise.
Looking at how Kenny Golliday has played with the Giants, I think it's fair to say Stafford made Golliday into a good NFL receiver. Any QB who can turn a pedestrian talent into a Pro Bowler deserves to be in the franchise tier
@@domthedonkey69420 Unlike most Brady fanboys, I'm old enough to remember when Brady's first three Super Bowl wins were more attributed to the Patriots' extremely good defense than Brady's rather average play. Brady was only a Hall of Famer once he won consistently for several more seasons.
@@Matt-pq4tq Yeah bro i remember superbowl 36 and beyond. The dude was a 6th rounder coming off the bench mid season. With incredible reciever talent like Terry Glenn, Troy Brown. Of course he didnt light up the world. Also pre Ty Law rule (Where bitch boy Jim Irsay whined that the pats DBs were being mean to media and league golden boy Peyton) throwing for 30tds in the season was a lot. Peyton's stats were pedestrian until this rule change. Now passing in the league is a joke. So dont compare the start of Brady's career with Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes who started on stacked offenses in a league where throwing for 40+ tds and 4k yards is considered normal
And yet people think he missed his opportunity to be considered the GOAT just because he didn’t win 3-4 super bowls already. He has two at age 27. TWENTY! SEVEN!!! TWENTY SEVEN!!! He’s got time for another 4-5 rings.
As a chargers fan I’m glad we picked up Herbert and got rid of Lynn for Staley, as is we’re looking much better as a team and are on route to the playoffs in the near future we may even be SuperBowl contenders as long as we keep up what we’re doing
I really think my favorite young qb right now is Taylor Heinicke, he's been awesome to watch... It's just too bad for him that WFT stinks this year. Herbert has been an absolute beast as well.
I’m glad Matt Ryan was placed where he is, it’s a shame he doesn’t a ring he totally deserves it. Sadly I don’t see ATL defense getting better anytime soon
@@joelsullentrup3497 but they got destroyed by the bengals and now they getting whooped by the browns, if Lamar keeps doing this he might down a little.
@@yannickdellaert1616 Favre was too inconsistent, and his rouge gunslinger style of play led to some very poor decisions in key moments. Rodgers has all of his upsides and then some, with none of the downsides.
As a Raiders fan, I think what he said (9:12) about Derek Carr is what I have been trying to tell people for the past year and I just get clowned on. Side note:The Brady stuff was also great
There are two qualities you haven't factored in. The first is leadership. Who is the quarterback who develops those around him. Who is the quarterback whose teammates feel most confident in when the chips are down in the biggest moments? The second quality is performance under pressure. Which quarterbacks rise to the occasion in the biggest moments? This is where I think Brady excels, and it is the primary reasons I think you have him at least two tiers lower than he should be. With respect to the first quality, one reason Brady plays for "good" teams is that he makes his teammates better through leadership. The best recent example is his yelling at his o-line during the Bears game last year. Prior to then, that line was one of the most penalized units in the NFL. Afterwards, it was the least. Brady doesn't yell often. He does it when it's most effective. The second quality... the best example I can think of is his play against Phillip Rivers. I was in the stadium and close to the field for one regular season game and one post-season game involving those two. The difference between them in terms of the ability (or inability) to rise to the occasion was so perfectly obvious that it was almost comical. Brady almost always will. Rivers never did. From that point on, I never worried about Rivers, because I knew he could be counted on to "not" rise to the occasion. As to the rest, I think you did a pretty good job.
This is a pretty good list. The Brady thing is humerous though. Brady broke football and just has it figured out. I think there is some sarcasm there in his ranking. Also Carr looks great this year just like you predicted.
Chiefs offense is still putting up numbers (tied in 2nd in the league with the Bills) Their defense is just struggling a lot (also 2nd worst PA in the league behind the Falcons)
@@electricalz_ yeah and when you have a defense that allows the other team points like that. You can’t mess up the comeback. Which happened. Overall though their offense is still crazy good. Just a little off/clicking weird.
I actually don’t disagree with you. Personally I’d probably knock Tannehill down a tier and put Lamar Jackson up a tier. Also I’m much higher on Fields but I do agree with the flaws you pointed out.
Yea no shit I was surprised to finally hear someone give him some credit. Defense gives up touchdowns like a street ho gives up snatch so I’m sure it’s hard to be motivated once the score gets ran up
Dudes never gonna have a defense finish above 22 on the Raiders. Im a Raider fan but I hope this dude leaves, theres plenty of teams an above average QB away from contention. Plus the fans that hate him can finally shut the fuck up.
honestly after watching the first couple games of the season, lamar would do a bit better if he was less hesitant to run the ball when no one is open, which Im sure is down to the coaches telling him not to run so much. it would also do wonders for my fantasy team
There are certainly some takes here that soured like milk, most of which are players far exceeding expectations, but some came crumbling down. Can’t wait to see a list at the end of the season.
Lamar is a winner. We win a lot of games because of him and what he can do. I don't miss any games. He has his flaws for sure but you take him off the Ravens and we aren't going anywhere. We'll win some games due to Coach Harbaugh but we ain't going nowhere fast. He is a franchise QB. He need that upgrade next year. If Dak is tier 3 and Josh Allen is 2, I find it hard to see Lamar as a 4. Outside of that, it's a good list to me.
@@exxcaliburs6002 He's obviously biased by his hatred of Brady, but he has a point, I would take Stafford, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Wilson, Watson, or even Jackson over Brady, and any of those QB's could have won the SB with a team as loaded as the Bucs
@@omarjaafar2961 Stafford has the most come from behind wins since entering the league at 31, and Jackson only has two big ones so far, the 40+ point Browns game and the Titans playoffs game, but he's still young and has shown that he can do it if necessary
Lamar Jackson in the above average category? What in the world?? The Ravens are literally building their team around him… He should be at LEAST in the franchise QB tier.
If I was a NFL GM I would do whatever it takes to get Zack Wilson. He's going to be a generational talent. Also Stafford accuracy has never been an issue. It's his over aggressiveness and over reliance on his big arm that gets him into trouble. He's like Fitzpatrick but with actually talent to make those dangerous throws.
We only saw one year of college and a couple preseason halves of Wilson so I wouldn’t say “do whatever it takes to get him” I think he’ll be great, but I still think Lawrence and fields will be better IMO. And stafford is pretty good as well. I’d say top 12 qb in the league for sure
Honestly a great QB list, not what I came in expecting. I’m personally a bit higher than you on Stafford, but what the hell do I know. Other than that I’m in total agreement.
I don’t think Mahomes is any less good than we all figured he’d be back when this video was made, but obviously the stats on the season would probably shift up the placings of these QB’s now, but overall this is a great tier list!!
You give Matt Ryan more credit than most do but I'd still put him above Roethlisberger and Tannehill. I think he's a franchise QB that has had horrible coaching the last 2 seasons and no run game or defense to lean on. Dirk Koetter is devoid of any creativity as a play caller. You'll see Ryan look more like 2016 or 2018 Ryan under Arthur Smith. The guy that got Tannehill this high on the list. No one thought Tannehill was a franchise QB before Arthur Smith
@@evanchristensen1334 Kirk Cousins is also good. They are the same QB. Difference is Stafford makes a cute throw every once in a a while to delude people into thinking he’s elite
@@evanchristensen1334 oh I know what I’ll see. He will put up number and flash elite QB play, but when you need him the most, like the majority of his career he will falter and shrink
Crazy how Lamar has brought his team to the playoffs every season he’s been in the league with a below average receiving core but he’s just above average meanwhile Dak has had the best weapons in the league for a while now and couldn’t get his team to the playoffs while in the NFC two seasons ago
I’ve said it a million times about Lamar, he has qualities that will get him through the regular season comfortably but his limitations in throwing the ball ensure he will never be a good playoff QB. That’s just how I see it.
@@MegaTechpc That may be so but you cant rank below guys that arent even making the pkayoffs like Dak plus look at the system around him everyone who breals down tape on the ravens passing game will tell you the play designs of the plays they run are garbage thats not lamars fault plus he doesnt really yave a top receiver I love hollywood but hes just too small sometimes just how i see it
@@schwarzmann1 dak literally had kellen moore calling plays. lamar is a lot more athletic as well. the ravens also have had a solid defense and a much better coaching staff.
@@jacobeads7173 I'd take Kellen Moore as a play caller over Greg Roman any day and yes I will admit Ravens got a great defense and coaching staff but prior to last season Dak was losing some games not because of defense but because the offense wasn't scoring as high as much as they should but I just don't see how Dak is better than Lamar just cause he puts up a bunch of yards in 4th quarter garbage time at which time Lamar is usually on the bench cause they've already won the game.
I’m gonna be skeptical of Carson Wentz especially since we’re 2-4(at the time of this comment), but I will say it looks like he is finally locking in with offense. If we don’t make it to a playoff game then I think we need to look towards the draft for our next quarterback, but if we make a decent playoff run then I’ll give Wentz the benefit of the doubt
I would put Lamar in franchise, but not higher, I think he is amazing but he just needs more time to really cement his outcome, so far he is doing great with a 32-8 regular season starter record, though his 1-2 playoff game record could be improved.
A year later and your list has held up well.. Other than Burrow I think you nailed it..! Absolutely agree on Brady and have been saying it for years.. Great game manager, but that's it.. I think in your top 10 all time list Warren Moon should have gotten honorable mention at least.. I'd like to see your take on best all time RB's too.. Well done..
Question: why do you like make comments about Big Ben, but not Winston? They both were accused of the same thing. What about Peyton Manning, the media really covered up his discretions too.
Barry, I sense some Brady hate! At first I thought you were just joking on your other vids, but I'm starting to think there's some real hatred there 😂😭😭 😂
Kyler and Lamar being on the same tier as Big Ben :/ I would knock Big Ben and Minshew down to Scrubs, and bump Wentz and Darnold to Average. Then I'd bump Lamar and Kyler to Franchise QB at least. You said that tier 4 can't take over games, but Kyler and Lamar have show time and again that they can torch opposing defences on a regular basis.
@@billywilliams8378 i won’t say he carries the whole team, since they have the best cornerback duo in the league right now and a good run defense led by calais campbell, but that offense is literally nothing without lamar
@@DB-ib9kl True by team I should have said offense as no QB carries the D. Some teams with QB don’t have D and it’s a big reason why Rodgers has been to one SB
@@MatchCardsFixed yes hes racist, thats why 3 of his top 5 qbs are poc. I heartily disagree with his lamar placement as well, but the race card is tired and trite. Stop being lazy.
The disrespect for leaving NVP Mitch Trubisky off this list.
He’s not a starter
@@SageSea1 he should be how can any team keep the reigning NVP on the bench
@@SageSea1 r/woosh
Exactly has Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Johny Unitas, or Rodger Staubach won an NVP? I think not.
@@SageSea1 Neither is Cam or Minshew, but they are both on the list.
You should do this tier list again once the season is over see who went up and who went down
hopefully lock goes up 😔
Jameis all the way up
Kyler all the way up
If darnold keeps balling out that'll probably happen to him at least
Mahomes might drop if he keeps playing like they are now
The Joe Burrows take isn’t aging too well right now 😂
Definitely not now that they in the AFC championship
@@austinstanley1858 ikr lmao
Very bad now. Burrow going to the Super Bowl.
Neither did his Stafford take lmao
@@raymondprentis2359 I think his defence deserves equal or even more credit for going to the superbowl.
Andy "he's a good guy though" Dalton
hahah he is tho God bless Jesus loves and God has a plan for all have a blessed day be safe y’all
@@user-zp5lt3kj7o ?
Hearing Barry say that was heartwarming. Certainly not something Tree would say
@@samuelschmitt853 i believe that was the Andy Dalton impression
@@user-zp5lt3kj7o nah
As a Titans fan, I’m just glad to have a QB that doesn’t rank with the bottom feeders for the first time since Steve McNair!
He was a starter but Rusty Smith....
Not like McNair got you very far
@@samterraszas127 to the superbowl once still better than Browns, Lions, Texans, and Jags... Also won MVP when he split it with Peyton that one year...
@@samterraszas127 He got us to our only super bowl and was the greatest QB in franchise history. What? 💀
@@glizzzerd when you lost to the rams, then proceeded to go 7-9 in 2001. Jimmy G brought the niners to the super bowl are you gonna classify him as an all time great as well?
Naw, some of the stuff Burrow was doing despite having literally 0 line was pretty damn impressive. I mean, hell he almost single handedly won them games against playoff contender teams like the Browns and Colts, only to be let down by their defense not being able to close out games. Plus only having like 5 picks in 10 games despite the amount of attempts they made him try behind no line is crazy. He obviously has to get the deep ball down, though that also requires having more than .0001 seconds before the pocket completely collapses.
@@gregtrust5599 Yeah main thing is I just hope that o line can actually protect Burrow this season. They made some pretty decent improvements but I'm still pretty worried about guard.
@@merritt2014 Burrow has a bright future but tbf the Browns had their 3rd worst secondary in franchise history lol.
His deep ball did improve once the bangles stopped using empty so much and tried blocking with more then 5 guy that are shit at their job joe in college was one of the best deep ball throwers I have no doubt he will be great
It's also worth noticing how many deep balls were accurately thrown and dropped by guys like Ross
I don’t get why people are so low on burrow all of a sudden, early on in the season last year it seemed like everyone thought he was good and now all of a sudden people think he will regress
That is exactly how I needed to treat myself to a long overnight shift. Thanks, Barry! You’re the best.
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Same here watching this during my lunch break after waking up at 4:30 to go to work. God bless Barry and his unwavering support of the troops and the working man! 🇺🇸🙌🏻
These rankings are actually quite good, only thing I’d do is have Lamar up a tier but I can get behind why he ain’t in that tier
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yeah i’d put lamar one above as he is at least as good as ryan tannehill
You think brady is above average he is the best qb ever just won a superbowl
@@slammedbysky2999 not best greatest he is the goat and is a great qb but he is not the best rodgers has better stats on worse teams
(btw rodgers outplayed the other qb in 4/5 nfc championship games
@@dapperroag problem with Lamar is he threw for 2000 yards last year and tannehill was more efficient
I love the Sam darnold section where all you showed was his interceptions 🤣
Its a ghost
He did the Same with Tom Brady
He 3-0 now
@@SuperQB7_ he hates brady
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There's a lot of good analysis in this video. I think when you update it, you will acknowledge that Joe Burrow has indeed elevated his team in just his second season when they were the worst when they drafted him. Trevor Lawrence has been a disappointment thus far, but he was playing for Urban Meyer (as you mentioned) and is on a really bad team. He'll get better.
Not rlly man, he still has a lot to prove and to me personally, I just think he was lucky this year, not to hate he is a solid qb on most but winning on field goals wasnt my idea of proving hes a good qb
"No discernable weaknesses, except for the fact he can't block for himself"😂😂😂
I think Baker moves to "Franchise QB" after this season.
Also, LOL @ "Tom Dilfer" , Roethlisberger, and the picture of Deshaun Watson. LOL
Ah, another patrician Cynixbox viewer
I will say, it's weird to say Mahomes elevates his team to a contender no matter who is around him when he has never not had elite recieving options. Not saying he's bad, just pump the brakes a little. The fact that I can both think that he is already in the conversation for greatest QB of all time and overrated says a lot about how he gets covered by media honestly.
This aged well
Meanwhile Aaron Rodgers somehow never gets this compliment of elevating his team as if he's had suck great players aside from davante to throw to these last few mvp seasons
@@ozyssah The MVP *is* that acknowledgement, people line up to sing Aaron Rodgers' praises what are you talking about?
@@crazycolt1238 u right it did 😂 he had a few games were he didn’t look very good. And then they figured it out and are in a great position now 🤣 this proves you can’t overreact over a few games
We will see how great he really is once his big boy contract kicks in and the Chiefs can’t afford to roll out a stacked roster every season
This list was overall decent outside of the delusional Brady take. Brady played like a tier 2 guy last year. Tannehill had a better offense than him lol
Brady was 9th in QBR/passer rating and 8th in ANY/A last year with the best weapons in football. You might be the one that is delusional.
@@kazokadas uhhh you do realize QBs historically struggle in the first year of Arian’s offense? Go look at how Carson Palmer and Roethlisberger did. They all threw a lot of INTs then did very well the following year.
The only delusional people are those who think Brady got carried to the last SB win lmao
@@InertBrian he did get carried wym😂 not only by his team but the refs too. If you look at all his super bowl wins, he got seriously bailed out at some point in the playoffs most of the time.
@@spiderman4207 Bailed in the SB? You mean the refs making fair calls on both sides... most of the penalties were actually on the terrible Chief-O Line that would obviously get a lot of holding. Look at the Cowboys game last night, penalty on Chris Godwin for taunting, when he did nothing..
@@champion_gamer128 still don't understand why people call him the goat shit I could be the goat if I cheated
The brady slander is some of the funniest shit I've ever heard I love this channel lol. Also this list is actually really good.
As a Patriots fan that caught me completely off guard. Felt like getting jumped
Man fuk that Brady better than all them quarterbacks
@@CriscoDaDragon8716 He gets credit for his defense forcing turnovers, his receivers being wide open from 3 yards and having everything he possibly needs to succeed. While other QBs are playing in bad situations and showing insane talent and physical attributes
Squiggabean He’s the only qb to constantly put up numbers and superbowls with average receivers.
@@willrutherford8685 Gronk? Moss? Welker? Edelman? Those are mediocre to you?
The way Matt Stafford is playing this year, he could be a candidate for MVP. This is what happens when you leave Shitroit
Yep😭 4-1 and top 5 in nearly every area while hurt
IKR
This aged terribly
@@elikkhgf1255 I mean he has struggled in the throwing department lately but I guess we will see
He was doing so well, but oh how things can change in just a month
Some of these rankings are good, and some aged like milk left in the sun. You should seriously consider updating this video and comparing this video to the next. I'd love to watch it.
Right he keeps on undervaluing Brady
@@Awesome16487 It's a bit he does. He hates Brady. Just watch his reviews of Bucs games in the NFL week reviews
@@Awesome16487 nah Brady is placed a tad too high tbh
Joe burrow def aging like milk. Dudes looking like the Bengals franchise QB
My quarterback tears are also follows.
Tom Brady is top tears, because making him cry brings joy to my heart.
Other than the Brady hate this is a decent list
It's not even Brady hate.
Brady was 9th in QBR/passer rating and 8th in ANY/A last year with the best weapons in football. His tier ranking is appopriate for anyone taking an unbiased look at it.
He’s just mad that Brady can’t stop being good and he’s only explanation is luck
@@kazokadas with no preseason or offseason... now he got that... 9tds in 2 games.. shh
Barry never played the sport he doesn’t know what he is watching, he got brainwashed by the media busting in their shorts every time rodgers beats up on the Detroit lions or some bad team only to fall apart in the playoffs when he has the 1st seed in the nfc
@@kazokadas nah, “luck” isn’t an explanation for Brady’s success like this dude seems to act like it is
Seriously appreciate the respect you gave Carr. Spot on analysis. Wish more Raider fans could see what you see.
Facts held back by terrible ownership and sub par coaching dude is a baller and not many qb’s would have lasted or had the mental to preform week in and week out the way he did
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Now after this last season he can erase the "can't lead a team to success part"
He was very crucial on and off the field for the raiders success this last season. How many gaming winning drives did he persevere through with no head coach and won raiders the game?
Admire the Tannehill and Dak love, even though Lamar should be in that tier with them though, Tannehill is really good at finishing off drives and Dak has always been underrated accuracy-wise.
Looking at how Kenny Golliday has played with the Giants, I think it's fair to say Stafford made Golliday into a good NFL receiver. Any QB who can turn a pedestrian talent into a Pro Bowler deserves to be in the franchise tier
It’s crazy how mahomes is a HOF after such a short span he is unlike any QB ever
brady was a HOF after his 4th year
@@domthedonkey69420 Unlike most Brady fanboys, I'm old enough to remember when Brady's first three Super Bowl wins were more attributed to the Patriots' extremely good defense than Brady's rather average play. Brady was only a Hall of Famer once he won consistently for several more seasons.
@@Matt-pq4tq Yeah bro i remember superbowl 36 and beyond. The dude was a 6th rounder coming off the bench mid season. With incredible reciever talent like Terry Glenn, Troy Brown. Of course he didnt light up the world.
Also pre Ty Law rule (Where bitch boy Jim Irsay whined that the pats DBs were being mean to media and league golden boy Peyton) throwing for 30tds in the season was a lot.
Peyton's stats were pedestrian until this rule change. Now passing in the league is a joke. So dont compare the start of Brady's career with Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes who started on stacked offenses in a league where throwing for 40+ tds and 4k yards is considered normal
And yet people think he missed his opportunity to be considered the GOAT just because he didn’t win 3-4 super bowls already. He has two at age 27. TWENTY! SEVEN!!! TWENTY SEVEN!!! He’s got time for another 4-5 rings.
As a chargers fan I’m glad we picked up Herbert and got rid of Lynn for Staley, as is we’re looking much better as a team and are on route to the playoffs in the near future we may even be SuperBowl contenders as long as we keep up what we’re doing
I really think my favorite young qb right now is Taylor Heinicke, he's been awesome to watch... It's just too bad for him that WFT stinks this year. Herbert has been an absolute beast as well.
I’m glad Matt Ryan was placed where he is, it’s a shame he doesn’t a ring he totally deserves it. Sadly I don’t see ATL defense getting better anytime soon
It gives me great joy to see that Barry's lack of pointing out intelligence as a factor made many of these ratings fall apart
That burrow pick is crazy, especially looking back now
Talking about Lamar-“is going to be an issue in come from behind situations” he could not have been more wrong
He now has 4 comeback wins this year
@@joelsullentrup3497 but they got destroyed by the bengals and now they getting whooped by the browns, if Lamar keeps doing this he might down a little.
Too bad they won’t make the playoffs
As a packers fan I'm thankful for having one of the greatest talents to grow up and watch . He will always be the goat of green bay
Isnt favre the bigger goat?
@@yannickdellaert1616 no
@@yannickdellaert1616 Favre was too inconsistent, and his rouge gunslinger style of play led to some very poor decisions in key moments. Rodgers has all of his upsides and then some, with none of the downsides.
As a Raiders fan, I think what he said (9:12) about Derek Carr is what I have been trying to tell people for the past year and I just get clowned on.
Side note:The Brady stuff was also great
There are two qualities you haven't factored in. The first is leadership. Who is the quarterback who develops those around him. Who is the quarterback whose teammates feel most confident in when the chips are down in the biggest moments?
The second quality is performance under pressure. Which quarterbacks rise to the occasion in the biggest moments?
This is where I think Brady excels, and it is the primary reasons I think you have him at least two tiers lower than he should be. With respect to the first quality, one reason Brady plays for "good" teams is that he makes his teammates better through leadership. The best recent example is his yelling at his o-line during the Bears game last year. Prior to then, that line was one of the most penalized units in the NFL. Afterwards, it was the least. Brady doesn't yell often. He does it when it's most effective.
The second quality... the best example I can think of is his play against Phillip Rivers. I was in the stadium and close to the field for one regular season game and one post-season game involving those two. The difference between them in terms of the ability (or inability) to rise to the occasion was so perfectly obvious that it was almost comical. Brady almost always will. Rivers never did. From that point on, I never worried about Rivers, because I knew he could be counted on to "not" rise to the occasion.
As to the rest, I think you did a pretty good job.
I'm here for that ICE COLD Burrow take
This is a pretty good list. The Brady thing is humerous though. Brady broke football and just has it figured out. I think there is some sarcasm there in his ranking. Also Carr looks great this year just like you predicted.
Everyone’s talking about the brady slander but no ones gonna mention the fact that mahomes has choked the last two games?
Chiefs offense is still putting up numbers (tied in 2nd in the league with the Bills)
Their defense is just struggling a lot (also 2nd worst PA in the league behind the Falcons)
@@electricalz_ yeah and when you have a defense that allows the other team points like that. You can’t mess up the comeback. Which happened. Overall though their offense is still crazy good. Just a little off/clicking weird.
Thank you for not dumping Big Ben in garbage. You are really smart and unbiased with this video. Awesome
I actually don’t disagree with you. Personally I’d probably knock Tannehill down a tier and put Lamar Jackson up a tier. Also I’m much higher on Fields but I do agree with the flaws you pointed out.
I agree with moving up Lamar but Tannehill is definitely a franchise QB
Finally someone admits Carr is a good QB
wish he had a decent defense
I mean as a charger fan, I'll give credit when its do carr is pretty good.
I couldn't believe I actually heard praise for him. Nobody ever recognizes his skill, even our own fans smh.
Yea no shit I was surprised to finally hear someone give him some credit. Defense gives up touchdowns like a street ho gives up snatch so I’m sure it’s hard to be motivated once the score gets ran up
Dudes never gonna have a defense finish above 22 on the Raiders. Im a Raider fan but I hope this dude leaves, theres plenty of teams an above average QB away from contention. Plus the fans that hate him can finally shut the fuck up.
Good list only thing I’d change is putting Kyler and Lamar in franchise
Love the Herbert love, hopefully changes our franchises doomed history lol. Probably not. But he could
Herbert is good in all, but Im focused on Stanley, as most of the time our head coaches were fuxking horrible
@@grantthegeneral7812 The best coach we had we fired after going 14-2 lmao
@@Gush27 Ik sad
honestly after watching the first couple games of the season, lamar would do a bit better if he was less hesitant to run the ball when no one is open, which Im sure is down to the coaches telling him not to run so much. it would also do wonders for my fantasy team
There are certainly some takes here that soured like milk, most of which are players far exceeding expectations, but some came crumbling down. Can’t wait to see a list at the end of the season.
The Ryan Tanehill one had to be the worst
Lamar is a winner. We win a lot of games because of him and what he can do. I don't miss any games. He has his flaws for sure but you take him off the Ravens and we aren't going anywhere. We'll win some games due to Coach Harbaugh but we ain't going nowhere fast. He is a franchise QB. He need that upgrade next year. If Dak is tier 3 and Josh Allen is 2, I find it hard to see Lamar as a 4. Outside of that, it's a good list to me.
Can’t imagine how many Brady fans came into this expecting him in the top tier 😂
Im a Saints fan but his Brady rating is like yours, bitter with jealousy.
@@exxcaliburs6002 He's obviously biased by his hatred of Brady, but he has a point, I would take Stafford, Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen, Wilson, Watson, or even Jackson over Brady, and any of those QB's could have won the SB with a team as loaded as the Bucs
@@dennisdegennaro7459 not stafford or jackson since they do beacome small in big moment
@@exxcaliburs6002 since we're doing hypotheticals, Tom Brady would've won the Superbowl with 20 other teams, at a minimum.
@@omarjaafar2961 Stafford has the most come from behind wins since entering the league at 31, and Jackson only has two big ones so far, the 40+ point Browns game and the Titans playoffs game, but he's still young and has shown that he can do it if necessary
Barry, can we get an all-time qb list next? Actually, all 2010s starters.
Lamar Jackson is who spearheads the Raven’s run game, not the other way around. And everyone in the league knows it.
Giants fan here. You're not being too harsh on Jones, he stinks out loud
Ummm…. DJ has two turnovers since last November with one being on a Hail Mary…. But go off
Lamar Jackson in the above average category? What in the world?? The Ravens are literally building their team around him… He should be at LEAST in the franchise QB tier.
Patty Mahommes' statement aged well i see.
Chiefs are back. Your statement aged well
@@thiasreynolds5028 yea but mahomes still sucks
@@thiasreynolds5028 mahomes still ass lmao
@@elikkhgf1255 wow. You and Maxwell completely destroyed my point. I’m sorry , I didn’t realiZe how wrong I was
It's impressive how well a lot of these predictions have held up 12 weeks into the season
Um…
As a Bears fan, I hope Fields wins R.O.T.Y. 🤞🏻🐻👇🏻
If starts before week 6 he could
Let him sit a year bears ain't going anywhere so may as well wait give him a nice offensive line maybe another wr then start
I agree w a lot of this. But Rodgers is definitely going down as best QB of all time🥴
Wilson should be in the first tier. I’d think you’re sleeping on Kyler Murray too but I’m a Cardinals fan so definitely biased
I disagree respectfully just don't think he's on the tier of Mahomes and Rodgers at this point.
@filaaa !! confused by what you’re trying to say. I’m pretty sure you accidentally messed up your comment.
If I was a NFL GM I would do whatever it takes to get Zack Wilson. He's going to be a generational talent. Also Stafford accuracy has never been an issue. It's his over aggressiveness and over reliance on his big arm that gets him into trouble. He's like Fitzpatrick but with actually talent to make those dangerous throws.
We only saw one year of college and a couple preseason halves of Wilson so I wouldn’t say “do whatever it takes to get him” I think he’ll be great, but I still think Lawrence and fields will be better IMO. And stafford is pretty good as well. I’d say top 12 qb in the league for sure
lol
You can argue that baker is gonna be clevelands qb for the next 20 years, therefore making him a franchise qb
End of the season update video Barry? ;)
Knowing you, I half expected you to put Brady in the scrub tier
Honestly a great QB list, not what I came in expecting. I’m personally a bit higher than you on Stafford, but what the hell do I know. Other than that I’m in total agreement.
Aww yeah, giving Carr credit! I feel so bad for him having such shit Defense. He deserves better
Carr is the best QB in Raiders history by performance, and fans will still want his head for not bailing out their sorry ass defense
Carr and Matt ryan feel like the same person sometimes. Same criticisms. Half the fan base want him gone. Held back by God awful defenses
I don’t think Mahomes is any less good than we all figured he’d be back when this video was made, but obviously the stats on the season would probably shift up the placings of these QB’s now, but overall this is a great tier list!!
Vids are the best 😂😂 but I know you can make them funnier
This dude has a lot of knowledge about the nfl I'm impressed. Arizona cardinals will make the playoffs for the first time since 2015 btw
Tbh I think y’all will finish last in the division. I can see you winning 8-9 games, but rams hawks and niners are still better IMO
You give Matt Ryan more credit than most do but I'd still put him above Roethlisberger and Tannehill. I think he's a franchise QB that has had horrible coaching the last 2 seasons and no run game or defense to lean on. Dirk Koetter is devoid of any creativity as a play caller. You'll see Ryan look more like 2016 or 2018 Ryan under Arthur Smith. The guy that got Tannehill this high on the list. No one thought Tannehill was a franchise QB before Arthur Smith
The Baker Mayfield take aged well
as a Chiefs fan, I can’t thank God enough for blessing us w Mahomes 👌🏼
How uhhhh, how’s that going for ya guys now😳
@@joshbaughman6076 recency bias. He will bounce back.
Exquisite video as always Barry!!!
After this season you know how absolute buns Jared Goff is
Tom Dilfer lmao great video. Teddy Bridgewater was spot on
It’s funny how Kirk Cousins gets clowned for only playing goods against bad teams when that’s what Stafford been doing for 13 years😂😂
Except stafford is good
@@evanchristensen1334 Kirk Cousins is also good. They are the same QB. Difference is Stafford makes a cute throw every once in a a while to delude people into thinking he’s elite
@@alphabah6094 watch this year of football. You’ll see
@@evanchristensen1334 oh I know what I’ll see. He will put up number and flash elite QB play, but when you need him the most, like the majority of his career he will falter and shrink
I mean Stafford gets criticized for that too
the mattew Stafford section definitely aged well
Crazy how Lamar has brought his team to the playoffs every season he’s been in the league with a below average receiving core but he’s just above average meanwhile Dak has had the best weapons in the league for a while now and couldn’t get his team to the playoffs while in the NFC two seasons ago
I’ve said it a million times about Lamar, he has qualities that will get him through the regular season comfortably but his limitations in throwing the ball ensure he will never be a good playoff QB. That’s just how I see it.
@@MegaTechpc That may be so but you cant rank below guys that arent even making the pkayoffs like Dak plus look at the system around him everyone who breals down tape on the ravens passing game will tell you the play designs of the plays they run are garbage thats not lamars fault plus he doesnt really yave a top receiver I love hollywood but hes just too small sometimes just how i see it
Barrys racist
@@schwarzmann1 dak literally had kellen moore calling plays. lamar is a lot more athletic as well. the ravens also have had a solid defense and a much better coaching staff.
@@jacobeads7173 I'd take Kellen Moore as a play caller over Greg Roman any day and yes I will admit Ravens got a great defense and coaching staff but prior to last season Dak was losing some games not because of defense but because the offense wasn't scoring as high as much as they should but I just don't see how Dak is better than Lamar just cause he puts up a bunch of yards in 4th quarter garbage time at which time Lamar is usually on the bench cause they've already won the game.
I’m gonna be skeptical of Carson Wentz especially since we’re 2-4(at the time of this comment), but I will say it looks like he is finally locking in with offense. If we don’t make it to a playoff game then I think we need to look towards the draft for our next quarterback, but if we make a decent playoff run then I’ll give Wentz the benefit of the doubt
Holy shit ur Brady rant was legendary
Love your Brady commentary, im here for Herbert.
Stafford take is questionable looking back.
When he said he was an eagles fan no hesitation subscribed
Rodgers was really god-tier against the Saints
this is scarily good, how can you have such good opinions, teach me your ways
The Tom Brady slander is uncalled for, he is the best QB sneaker in NFL history as well as the clutches QB is NFL history
Qb sneaker 😂😂
you know he has no moral problem cheating because of deflate gate, in time his performance enhancing drug use will be proven, or it won't.
@@meetmehalfway7982 Where's your proof of any of those things?
I would put Lamar in franchise, but not higher, I think he is amazing but he just needs more time to really cement his outcome, so far he is doing great with a 32-8 regular season starter record, though his 1-2 playoff game record could be improved.
His Unrelentless hatred for tom Brady cracks me up
A year later and your list has held up well.. Other than Burrow I think you nailed it..! Absolutely agree on Brady and have been saying it for years.. Great game manager, but that's it.. I think in your top 10 all time list Warren Moon should have gotten honorable mention at least.. I'd like to see your take on best all time RB's too..
Well done..
Didn't know game managers can be 3 time mvps
@@gabew3396 and now you know..! 😉
how bad did this list age?
Question: why do you like make comments about Big Ben, but not Winston? They both were accused of the same thing. What about Peyton Manning, the media really covered up his discretions too.
Barry, I sense some Brady hate! At first I thought you were just joking on your other vids, but I'm starting to think there's some real hatred there 😂😭😭 😂
Kyler and Lamar being on the same tier as Big Ben :/
I would knock Big Ben and Minshew down to Scrubs, and bump Wentz and Darnold to Average. Then I'd bump Lamar and Kyler to Franchise QB at least. You said that tier 4 can't take over games, but Kyler and Lamar have show time and again that they can torch opposing defences on a regular basis.
imagine having baker and lamar on the same tier, even at the start of the season lmao
I would love to see you redo this video after this season is over!!
The disrespect to Tom Brady is ignorant af.
Yeah he’s just a Brady hater
I like the good words about Carr. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.
A little disappointed Lamar isn't even in tier 3. Wouldn't an MVP winner at least qualify as a franchise qb?
Extremely disappointed especially when tier 2 I believe is supposed to carry a team. He does just that.
@@billywilliams8378 i won’t say he carries the whole team, since they have the best cornerback duo in the league right now and a good run defense led by calais campbell, but that offense is literally nothing without lamar
@@DB-ib9kl True by team I should have said offense as no QB carries the D. Some teams with QB don’t have D and it’s a big reason why Rodgers has been to one SB
Not when you’re racist
@@MatchCardsFixed yes hes racist, thats why 3 of his top 5 qbs are poc.
I heartily disagree with his lamar placement as well, but the race card is tired and trite. Stop being lazy.
Tom Brady has won 7 rings, I don't like the guy either, but he is definitely a top tier QB and you have to give respect where it's due.
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I’m tying to find where he was wrong in anything he stated about Brady
so that joe burrow take aged like milk
Can't help but see the similarities that Mahommes rant had to another QB that started out with amazing defense and receiving core.
According to this guy, if u don’t have elite physical traits ur not good. Let’s disregard leadership, IQ, situations, etc
retarded oversimplification lmfao
"I will bet my life this doesn't happen with Urban Meyer as his head coach though." Priceless
Tom Dilfer...lol...love it!
Actually one of the best quarterback ranking list I've ever seen
the trevor lawerence description lowkey is very profitable
“I will bet my life it doesn’t happen with urban meyer as his coach though”
Well he wasn’t wrong
As a Colts fan, I really hope Wentz proves you wrong. But I still think Stafford would have fit us better.