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I still have my original 70 - SS396 Chevelle that I got in Highschool in 1978. less than 60k original miles on it. Back in 78, people struggled to give these cars away, due to fuel costs.
@@MrChevelle83 i own a '70 ss454 car. LS6/M22/4:88 12 BOLT. i am owner # 3. i bought it in 1981. it is still in storage to this day. i have driven it less than 200 miles. i have the build sheet. it is an atlanta built car.
The Torch has been passed on and is in good hands with next Gen. Thanks for the work and dedication. us ole F’ahs notice and appreciate the handing down of knowledge that you’re doing. Tribal knowledge is a lost art.
Cowl induction was optional on a SS car regardless if you selected the cowl induction option or not all SS Chevelles came with the raised hood not a flat hood like a Malibu would of came with
The 396/ 375 and 454/ 450 both had solid lifters and a 6,500 RPM redline. All 70 SS Chevelles had the power bulge on the hood, the difference was if it had the optional cowl induction mechanism ( no flat hoods on an SS). I'm not sure if there is an exact date that the 396/375 was cancelled or supplies ran out. Keep up the good work!
@@chadhaire1711 Over rated as compared to a new ( net ) rating system introduced in 1972. We are talking about 1970 numbers so what is your point? What you are saying is irrelevent.
@@markg7030 The 1970 numbers claimed are 18% more than what the real numbers are which means they are 18% less than stated Goober.....THAT is the point...and no 454 ever made 450 hp--THAT is the other point....and any 2023 Dodge with common 5.7 V8 puts out MORE horsepower than that 454 at 375 NET, another point. YOU are irrelevant Goober....and you spelled "IRRELEVENT" Wrong--go back to school kid.
@@markg7030 I see that the self proclaimed expert on high performance, Chad , is back and spouting his misinformation again . Try asking him where he gets his incorrect net horsepower numbers from . He has yet to answer that question when I've asked him about it . BTW Chad , a recent TH-cam Dyno test of a stock 396/375 engine showed 425 gross hp when run nearer the 6500 RPM redline as set by Chevrolet . The NHRA factored the combo to 415 hp years ago .
@@chadhaire1711 an alternator and water pump are going to drain 65 hp from a 396 , and 85 hp from a 454 ? Get real ! How is the 454 losing the extra twenty hp , hmm?
It always amazed me that Chevy didn't mandate positraction on performance cars. I think your followers would appreciate more info on single/dual, 3/8 vs. 5/16 fuel lines. Build sheets were stuffed away in odd places as opposed to throwing them out. In 1972 a strange car appeared in my town. It was a regular 1972 Malibu 350 with a cowl induction hood, driven by an old man. I would tease my friend who ordered but did not get the CI hood on his 1970 SS396. He received back the dealer's cost. "There goes your hood".
I had SBC factory SS Chevelle 1972 with order sheet bench seat notched with Muncie trans and and shifter in the floor....it was totalled buried in the hills of Virginia...On my uncle's property.
That's not conclusive evidence of an LS6, not even close. Atl builds had metal inner fenders. Early builds, January, had the chrome trim under headlights, hood pin location could be factory or added. And the trim code you read I believe, is an SS package or upper & lower paint color/s. Not trim around windows.
First 70 I ever bought had a 300 horse 350, factory flapper hood and SS stripes on a chrome bumper non SS Boo.. The build sheet showed someone ordered it that way with a bench and column shift, there's more than a few 70 odd ducks. Car had a factory 12 bolt with a light to light killer tall ass gear too. I've been through hundreds of 70's the car will give you clues but the only way to ever say this is a legit factory LS3/5,6 or L78 car is paperwork.
Ok so here's my question. We have an LS6 car but the critical bits like the original engine, trans & rear end are missing. It is also missing the entire interior! About the only way you could get this car back on the road is using reproduction parts. Since it is so rusty and missing so much is it even financially feasible to restore this car? From my experience where do you stop cutting on a car as rusty as this one? Your opinion of the advisability of restoring this one would be interesting!
How fast do you want to get it on the road? I have a friend that collected parts over 10 years before even starting to work on his. You can get really good deals on parts if you educate yourself on what can interchange from the GM lineup for the year your car was made.
@@MikhailScottKy In my experience a car this far gone will financially become a money pit. The only thing that would help is if you can do most if not all the work yourself. Still by the time you find a period correct drivetrain for it an rebuild it it will be a lot of money and will still not be a matching number car which will hurt any resale value. Really the only way you could do it is if you did all the work yourself and planned to keep the car. Because I guarantee you that you can go out in the marketplace and buy a really really nice non matching numbers car for way less than rebuilding this on!
@@kickit59 That's exactly what I was saying it will never be numbers matching again but some of the enjoyment people get about restoring a car is the hunt for the parts
Always interesting to see your videos. Since there is no motor, transmission, and wrong rear end, what would be the value of it considering the amount of money it would take to make it a nice car. It could never be a true LS6.
First off, you can't annoit yourself a "Guru";the same as you can't appoint yourself a "nickname." It has to be earned organically, from outside sources.
Why weren't these vehicles among others not standardized when it comes to the building process? Why would Atlanta put the firewall piece where it's located and other assembly plants do something different? Did they not have the tooling universally at all assembly plants back then? Why paint using different color primer as well as other parts of the cars assembled at the plants? Why weren't things assembled identical across the board on all vehicles at all plants?
I’m confused did they start building ls6 cars in Nov- Dec 1969? Or was it ‘70 because if that car was built in February and they didn’t make LS5-6 cars until November that’s impossible
It sucks that so many of these got destroyed in racing. My brother used to race 3/8 mile dirt ovals and back in the early 90’s in his class they would use these Chevelles, 2nd gen Camaros, G-Body’s of all kinds. Back then these were all pretty cheap cars
I would stop making 70 chevelle videos. Your posts contain an incredible amount of misinformation. The LS5 used the same M22 as an LS6 is just one of the many examples.
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I still have my original 70 - SS396 Chevelle that I got in Highschool in 1978. less than 60k original miles on it. Back in 78, people struggled to give these cars away, due to fuel costs.
thats awesome! ive managed to keep my 70 for over 20yrs. it survived marriage building a house and raising 2 children. im glad to still own it.
@@MrChevelle83 i own a '70 ss454 car. LS6/M22/4:88 12 BOLT. i am owner # 3. i bought it in 1981. it is still in storage to this day. i have driven it less than 200 miles. i have the build sheet. it is an atlanta built car.
@@cbell5571 NIce! is it still roadworthy?
Hope to see it back on the road someday. Glad it was saved. Grew up with a 396 70 El Camino special paint code car so 70 is just my favorite year
The Torch has been passed on and is in good hands with next Gen. Thanks for the work and dedication. us ole F’ahs notice and appreciate the handing down of knowledge that you’re doing. Tribal knowledge is a lost art.
switch on pedal is for the 400 trans kickdown not for cowl hood
My dream car...ever since i saw that ad of it tied down with the huge ropes.
I have that magazine with that picture on the cover😮
Nice start, now all you need is 100 K to restore it.
Great insight, Parker! Thanks for sharing
That was fantastic - look forward to seeing this Chevelle resurrected! =)
I love the cutaways in the floor to see all the clues
Cowl induction was optional on a SS car regardless if you selected the cowl induction option or not all SS Chevelles came with the raised hood not a flat hood like a Malibu would of came with
Your knowledge is so impressive Parker! Thank you for documenting GM history. Definitely a car worthy of a full restoration.
Patrick glenn Nichols can authenticate this car for you He specializes in Ls 6 454 Chevelle's
Awesome job, Parker you the man
Love that GM Scene shirt!
Good job. Thx for sharing info
all I know after watching this video. Is there will be more LS6 Chevelles in 2024 than Chevrolet made in 1970.
So young yet so knowledgeable 😊
The 396/ 375 and 454/ 450 both had solid lifters and a 6,500 RPM redline. All 70 SS Chevelles had the power bulge on the hood, the difference was if it had the optional cowl induction mechanism ( no flat hoods on an SS). I'm not sure if there is an exact date that the 396/375 was cancelled or supplies ran out. Keep up the good work!
375 GROSS horsepower is only 310 net...454 was only 365 net. All those old cars were over rated
@@chadhaire1711 Over rated as compared to a new ( net ) rating system introduced in 1972. We are talking about 1970 numbers so what is your point? What you are saying is irrelevent.
@@markg7030 The 1970 numbers claimed are 18% more than what the real numbers are which means they are 18% less than stated Goober.....THAT is the point...and no 454 ever made 450 hp--THAT is the other point....and any 2023 Dodge with common 5.7 V8 puts out MORE horsepower than that 454 at 375 NET, another point. YOU are irrelevant Goober....and you spelled "IRRELEVENT" Wrong--go back to school kid.
@@markg7030 I see that the self proclaimed expert on high performance, Chad , is back and spouting his misinformation again . Try asking him where he gets his incorrect net horsepower numbers from . He has yet to answer that question when I've asked him about it . BTW Chad , a recent TH-cam Dyno test of a stock 396/375 engine showed 425 gross hp when run nearer the 6500 RPM redline as set by Chevrolet . The NHRA factored the combo to 415 hp years ago .
@@chadhaire1711 an alternator and water pump are going to drain 65 hp from a 396 , and 85 hp from a 454 ? Get real ! How is the 454 losing the extra twenty hp , hmm?
It always amazed me that Chevy didn't mandate positraction on performance cars.
I think your followers would appreciate more info on single/dual, 3/8 vs. 5/16 fuel lines.
Build sheets were stuffed away in odd places as opposed to throwing them out.
In 1972 a strange car appeared in my town. It was a regular 1972 Malibu 350 with a cowl induction hood, driven by an old man. I would tease my friend who ordered but did not get the CI hood on his 1970 SS396. He received back the dealer's cost. "There goes your hood".
I had SBC factory SS Chevelle 1972 with order sheet bench seat notched with Muncie trans and and shifter in the floor....it was totalled buried in the hills of Virginia...On my uncle's property.
Is it still there?
Great job Detective!
That's not conclusive evidence of an LS6, not even close.
Atl builds had metal inner fenders. Early builds, January, had the chrome trim under headlights, hood pin location could be factory or added.
And the trim code you read I believe, is an SS package or upper & lower paint color/s.
Not trim around windows.
Looks to have AC firewall ? No ls6 car had AC I believe
Right LS5 was the air conditioned version
Doesn't that dash have the seat belt warning lamp hole which didn't come out until 1972?
Dash is 3 diff ones put together..
First 70 I ever bought had a 300 horse 350, factory flapper hood and SS stripes on a chrome bumper non SS Boo.. The build sheet showed someone ordered it that way with a bench and column shift, there's more than a few 70 odd ducks. Car had a factory 12 bolt with a light to light killer tall ass gear too. I've been through hundreds of 70's the car will give you clues but the only way to ever say this is a legit factory LS3/5,6 or L78 car is paperwork.
Ok I have a 70 Chevelle LS6 Atlanta built 06D date it had a brownish primer on it
Patrick Glenn Nichols. Watch and learn. You don't become an expert from learning to read a trim tag from the year one catalog.
i always heard it was easy to clone a chevrolet. is that true? thank for the vid
pretty cool car thanks for the info
Great video. lots of information.
Ok so here's my question. We have an LS6 car but the critical bits like the original engine, trans & rear end are missing. It is also missing the entire interior! About the only way you could get this car back on the road is using reproduction parts. Since it is so rusty and missing so much is it even financially feasible to restore this car? From my experience where do you stop cutting on a car as rusty as this one? Your opinion of the advisability of restoring this one would be interesting!
How fast do you want to get it on the road? I have a friend that collected parts over 10 years before even starting to work on his. You can get really good deals on parts if you educate yourself on what can interchange from the GM lineup for the year your car was made.
@@MikhailScottKy In my experience a car this far gone will financially become a money pit. The only thing that would help is if you can do most if not all the work yourself. Still by the time you find a period correct drivetrain for it an rebuild it it will be a lot of money and will still not be a matching number car which will hurt any resale value. Really the only way you could do it is if you did all the work yourself and planned to keep the car. Because I guarantee you that you can go out in the marketplace and buy a really really nice non matching numbers car for way less than rebuilding this on!
@@kickit59 That's exactly what I was saying it will never be numbers matching again but some of the enjoyment people get about restoring a car is the hunt for the parts
Gold 🥇 mine..
Always interesting to see your videos. Since there is no motor, transmission, and wrong rear end, what would be the value of it considering the amount of money it would take to make it a nice car. It could never be a true LS6.
First off, you can't annoit yourself a "Guru";the same as you can't appoint yourself a "nickname." It has to be earned organically, from outside sources.
Would you come to Tennessee to decode my 70 ss?
Cant u run the numbers back to the manufacturer to know
Why weren't these vehicles among others not standardized when it comes to the building process? Why would Atlanta put the firewall piece where it's located and other assembly plants do something different? Did they not have the tooling universally at all assembly plants back then? Why paint using different color primer as well as other parts of the cars assembled at the plants? Why weren't things assembled identical across the board on all vehicles at all plants?
I have driven big block 1970 Super SPORT MANUAL STEERING I NO WHY THESE CAR COULD GET WRECKED EASY WITH MANUAL STEERING.
It is about the cars. Not your health ad. Not correct on gas pedal switch. That is for trans kick down. Still enjoy most of your content in videos.
I’m confused did they start building ls6 cars in Nov- Dec 1969? Or was it ‘70 because if that car was built in February and they didn’t make LS5-6 cars until November that’s impossible
72 Dash.....
I prefer a 70 body only to build a nice restomod
It sucks that so many of these got destroyed in racing. My brother used to race 3/8 mile dirt ovals and back in the early 90’s in his class they would use these Chevelles, 2nd gen Camaros, G-Body’s of all kinds. Back then these were all pretty cheap cars
Yeee !
Lol, collapse under all the horsepower.
You no match for Patrick Glenn Nichols
You no good english.
My professional opinion is your car is a piece of junk.
I would stop making 70 chevelle videos. Your posts contain an incredible amount of misinformation. The LS5 used the same M22 as an LS6 is just one of the many examples.
That is correct my LS5 has and M22
Whats the.point we can all see itsba 1970 ls5 ls6 ss 454
It's still going to be a clone because it doesn't have motor trans or rear end!
So if its a 1970 lS5 then why keep talking.about it