The Evolution of Anakin VS Dooku Lightsaber Duels
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- We take a look at all 8 duels between Anakin Skywalker and Count Dooku and look at how each swordsmen has progressed in their lightsaber abilties.
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"My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count."
"You mean last Tuesday? Well, you've been working out."
Centaxday*
Twosdae Novembuary 35thst in the rear of our lord 19tekashi69ine BC.
Ahhh damn! I was going to use that joke 😝
Star Wars Theory: Twice the weight, double the gains
J Sailer yeah....yeah
Anakin: *My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count Dooku.*
Dooku: *Two times zero is still zero, Skywalker*
Burn! I hate that new math.
Second worst burn of Skywalkers life
bigredwolf6 - nice one 👍 !
Grey Femling your shorter then I expected
Grey Femling yooooo 😂😂
Dooku used sandstorm.
“It’s Super effective”
cole dietrich
*insert unfunny joke about Darude - Sandstorm (presumably about not knowing the name of the song) here*
Haha😂😂😂😂 😭😭😭😭😭
That's why they call them the TECHNO union
Or
Dooku used sandstorm!
It was Darude!
*Anakin hates it*
Anyone realize that Anakin got "boi'd" by Count Dooku in their first fight with lightning?
Hotase4477 oh my lord
Yes, lol
dooku be like:
⚡👋boi
⚡⚡
*padme falls from the gunship*
Anakin: *attempts to get her*
Obi Wan: ANAKIN SHE'S COVERED IN *SAND!*
OH GOD I ALMOST JUST DIED
This is way too underrated
This should be in the original script 😂
Eeek! Saaaaaaaannnnd!!!
Anakin:Oh...fuck her then.
Did he just bring up anakin killing the tuskens without making a not just the men but the women and children too joke? That’s heresy
Perturabo The lack of a mention of a he death of not just the men but the women and children too served to severely hurt not only the men in my family, but the women in my family and children in my family as well.
Perturabo what is the Hammer of Olympia doing in here? Death to the false emperor!
Wrong universe!
Go dig a trench, loser xD
so you are complaining about Heresy now? go step on lego, traitor.
Perturabo No, Its treason then
14:05 this is why Dooku is considered one of the best swordsmen in the Galaxy. Obi-Wan, the master of Soresu, a defensive form which has brick-wall defensive technique but weaker offensive attacks, is caught chasing Dooku across the platform, playing to Kenobi’s weakness. Anakin, a practitioner of Ataru, a strongly offensive form, with weaker defense, is caught being chased by the Count, putting him on the defensive. Dooku plays to each Jedi’s weaknesses, ensuring he’s putting Kenobi on the offensive and Skywalker on the defensive.
I thought ani used form v. Or did he switch during/after the clone wars
Ben Rosa I don’t think Anakin was a heavy Ataru practitioner unless I’m wrong
@@Eggsecuter Anakin used a personaliszed hybrid of Djem So and Ataru built for offense. Djem So formed the core of his technique, while Ataru added some variation and helped counteract the heavy, grounded nature of Djem So. Anakin would use this technique essentially as a sophisticated sledgehammer to smash opponents defenses and beat them into submission.
Anakin was using djem so at this point. Not form 4. He abandoned form 4 after the fuel on geonosis. He used form 5 djem so with elements of 3 from kenobi. 2 from dooku, and parts of 7 later in life.
@@davidtownsend6092 He was using Form V primarily on Geonosis, but the Shien variant not Djem So, while his dual wield technique was form IV based.
He switched over his style over the course of the Clone Wars, in response to his defeat on Geonosis at the hands of Dooku. His final form at the end of the Clone Wars was an offensive hybrid style using Djem So as the base with a solid Ataru integration to counteract Djem So's grounded nature. He wouldn't really add anything more until after he was catastrophically defeated on Mustafar, where his prosthetics and experiences forced him to completely revamp his fighting approach. He continued to use Djem So as a base, but studied all 7 forms in total, keeping useful elements while discarding the rest to form a full 7-form hybrid style.
2:44 I'm glad you mentioned that unknown clone trooper that always gets forgotten.
Awesome how the prequels fleshed out the lightsaber forms and duels.
Because the prequels are awesome 😎
Funny. They didn't. There were never "lightsaber forms" during the principal photography. This all came later from people who tried to give this movies more depth than they really have.
christian schmidt
Like the Sequels are any better. At least the Prequels were original and not a OT 2.0.
@@danielmansson3841 Didn't know the sequels are a topic here, lol. Ok, they suck too. But at least they have good acting.
@@christianschmidt8476 thank you! It seems that a LOT of people think that the "forms" are actually in the films. Lucas didn't give a bantha's butt about forms, he just wanted the fights to look "bigger and better" as the movies went on.
The thing I really like about the two Naboo duels is that in Naboo I, Anakin focuses entirely on Dooku, ignoring the Magnaguards and allowing them to wreck him. In Naboo II, Anakin immediately focuses on destroying the Magnaguards so that he can face Dooku one-on-one. Much better strategy.
Also, in at least half of these duels, Dooku talks to Anakin about how much better Obi-wan is in order to irritate him (particularly Naboo II, where Dooku, close to losing to Anakin, gives Obi-wan the credit for foiling his scheme, dismissing Anakin as a threat entirely.
Did they not have therapy in the Jedi or counseling of any kind? Say about their doubts or visions of the force? I feel like this would have helped anakin but idk
didnt anakin and yoda have a chat in rots
lol right they should have a therapist to deal with all that stuff... but the jedi did see visions as a potential path to the darkside because they often created fear of the future
The therapy would've also helped with Anakin's PTSD from LOSING HIS FUCKING LIMBS
Just an idea. I’m not saying it’s the end all be all solution but maybe counseling at a younger age would have helped anakin. To an extent
Nope, Jedi are supposed to just take that stuff and let it go into the Force. I mean from what they say in the prequels the Jedi Order's ideal would be a high functioning sociopath
Wish there was a evaluation of obi-wan vs General Grievous
Like the "hello there" that General Grevuis started
@@Trivodex if you start correcting please correct properly... It's Grievous
@@Trivodex Evaluation is the correct word.
@@jaredweldrick185 actually, Obi-wan said it first in episode 3 which was released before that clone wars series
@@ironbatman9689 it matters not canonically he stole it from grievous end of story
10:10 "...And bombards Anakin with his greatest weakness"...and Dooku was also on slightly higher ground. TBH, it's a miracle Anakin survived their second encounter.
I agree without plot armour Dooku would have ended him the 2nd fight
And the way anakin kills him in rots is lame as fuck. Dooku wouldnt get disarmed like that lol
Instead of charging in to duel him in the first battle, run for his ship and _trash it with lightsabers…_
Their objective was to stop him getting away, if he can't get off planet, he's trapped.
[Edit: also wreck his speeder on the way in, then he has to run _on foot]_
casbott if he tries to run just glass the planet.
“What’s a war crime” probably some Japanese guy in China during ww2
What if animals plan was to get blasts by Dooku and thrown into his fighter.
Obi wan is busy fighting Dooku while Anika’s goes to town
Now I imagine Dooku running away on foot like „aw shit they gonna get me!“
@@a_human8489 yeah theyre just bugs. Glass'em. Actually TCW humanized the bug race well.
TH-cam bruh animals
You cant have a good lightsaber battle without lossing a hand
its true
Wouldn’t happen as often if they had cross guards
He didn't lose it. He had a pretty good idea where it was the whole time.
See this is why the sequel trilogy is bad nobody loses their arm also if palaptine wins by dying or just absorbing rey why did he just commit suicide and take rey
I got to hand it to you, that's true.
Anakin might disagree, but he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Amazing how in TCW, Anakin went from equaling Ventress in the movie to almost being able to kill Dooku in the second Naboo duel.
If he won the duel against Obi-Wan, he probably could've gone on to rival Sidious.
Actually he would easily surpass Palpatine because his full potential would be far greater than both Yoda and Sidious.
@@minatoarisato8798 Sidious hated lightsaber duels (If I recall correctly). He was a master manipulator and used the fears of Anikin to keep him under control. I think that if Anikin had trained under Sidious as his full potential Sidious would have deliberately built flaws in the training the ensure he was always superior (That was the whole reason for giving him outdated tech in his suit. So Vader would never rival him).
William Lockhart Nelson he could do that but that kinda seems to contradict why he picked anakin to be his apprentice since he wanted him so that one day anakin would kill him and take his place and become the most powerful sith of all time. He even was so confident that he would since he said to yoda “You will not stop me. Vader will become more powerful than either of us!” Or something along those lines. However that is my interpretation and I can fully see Sidious doing that so I am not completely disagreeing.
@@minatoarisato8798 Sidious always wanted to be the last Sith. That’s why he gave Vader such a crappy suit, so Vader wouldn’t stand a chance if he decided to continue the Rule of Two.
Could have just destroyed his ship before the duel even started. Boom Clone Wars over.
I too, enjoy the Darth Malak Solution
They were all out of rockets
@@ZeroRoyale so youre telling me that 2 Jedi standing right next to the ship cant force push it off the spire without rockets?
Duncan McGee while they were in the gunship yes. Afterwards go nuts I guess
Devan Royal they could try but they’d leave themselves open to attack.
*Anakin's/Vader's Age*
1 TPM (32BBY) = 9
2 AOTC (22BBY) = 19
TCW (22BBY-19BBY) = 19-22
3 ROTS (19BBY) = 22
Jedi: Fallen Order (14BBY) = 27
Rebels (5BBY-1BBY) = 36-40
RO & 4 ANH (0BBY/ABY) = 41
5 TESB (3ABY) = 44
6 ROTJ (4ABY) = 45
I just realised how young he was when he died.
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
R.I.P.
41BBY-4ABY
Great Star-Pilot, Hero of the Clone Wars & A Good Father.
Hence why it makes sense that Anakin would look younger as a force ghost
Wait, what is RO?
@@rootbeerguy690 rogue one
He literally tortured his daughter for hours and blew up her home planet. He was only a good father towards Luke
ToasterBath380 are you judging Vader or Anakin.
I just realized Obi Wan has a space mullet in the duel against Duku😂😝
@86sith yeah I don't think anyone else could pulled that one off except the trolling master himself 🤔
It explains greatly how Vader became so skilled.
Exercise, exercise, exercise! Younglings, younglings, younglings, every single day! Never go to the dinner without having killed at least 500 younglings.
Anakin: My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count.
Dooku: *Weird flex, but ok.*
What does flex mean?
@@Elder74 Boast
"My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count!" "Good, two times zero is still zero!"
So lame
Is this a DBZA reference
Anakin has gotten far stronger. Dooku is a tired old man, of course he would lose once he ran out of tricks.
All Anakin needed to do was grind levels.
The real reason Obi-Wan and Anakin didn't stop to rescue Padme....they had the high ground.
Without the high ground we are nothing
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!
How Anakin lost 7 duels with Dooku and just acted so chill when he chopped his hands off in ROTS is beyond me. I’d literally be like YEAH WHAT NOW COUNT NO HANDS
Feels like whenever Anakin finally gets the chance to kill Him, Dooku always resorts to lightning in order to push Anakin back.
Seemed like Anakin was always stronger then Dooku, it was mainly the lightning that kept Anakin from advancing.
And the one time Dooku didn’t use lightning he lost his hands and head 😂
Anakins Form V is a direct counter to Form II because of kinetic energy generated through ferocity and swift, powerful strikes. Dooku was fighting a bad matchup. He only survived for so long because of how skilled he was at dueling.
R. Poe that and the amount of times he ended fights with Anakin using lightning to push him away.
Yearlonggiant oh yeah, it was probs his force lightning and telekinetic mastery that prolonged the inevitable. It sucks cuz I really like dooku and his style of form II. He’s so proficient that he can fight two on one, with a hand behind his back. So it’s hard for me to admit Anakin is the better duelist but alas he defeats him pretty hard. As far as I’m aware there’s no character I know that has the finesse dooku had so It bums me out knowing he lost to a hard counter. Not taking anything away from Anakin tho
R. Poe yeah not to mention how badass and intimidating of a voice he had, both in movies and clone wars. Dooku definitely had his moments to shine especially when he was able to 1v2 against the likes of kenobi and Skywalker on numerous occasions.
He is among many of my favorite Star Wars villains, I’d say the only other dark side I knew of that handled a Lightsaber with finesse like Dooku was Maul as seen in Duel Of the fates, and perhaps his Skills with a double blade will be more prominent in the final season of Clone wars as well when he duels with Ahsoka Tano.
We saw a lot of Anakins potential throughout the Clone wars, and we even saw how Ahsoka was someone who held him back from going over the edge at times. However we never really get to see Darth Vader’s full potential as a duelist, and the only places we truly see his talents and mastery of his forms is in the Duel with his former apprentice Ahsoka Tano.
Other times we see Vader in combat he’s either holding back against Luke, or barely trying against characters like Ezra, Kanan Jarrus, and recently Cal Kestis as well.
Closest thing we see to Vader’s fighting prowess is in the comics, but they don’t really go through the motions aside from just explaining what’s happening.
If theirs one wish I have for Star Wars it’s that we finally see what Vader is truly capable of as a Duelist, no longer pulling his punches, but going all in. Who knows maybe the Vader Series being made by _Star Wars Theory_ will grant my wish, cause I just want to see Vader going full force.
R. Poe I’m pretty sure Anakin was so powerful in Revenge of the Sith where he was even able to take down the Jedi orders greatest battle master Cin Drallig. It’s in a brief Hologram you can see where Cin Drallig leads a Jedi strike team to kill Anakin(Vader), and they were likely the one thing that would’ve kept the Jedi Temple from falling had they succeeded, but ultimately their mission had failed and as a result the Jedi Order was destroyed.
Anakin "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, count."
Dooku "How so?"
Anakin "I can and will commit war crimes."
Obi-Wan "Wait what?"
Anakin: The Senate will decide your fate, count Dooku!!!
The Senate: Do it!!!
@@u.v.s.5583 ahahaha good one
Dooku shouldn't have gotten ahead of himself during the duel with Anakin
A HEAD of him self
Guess he was just ahead of the curve. He had such a good head on his shoulders too
I guess he lost his head while fighting
rashiq spencer well dooku didn’t. in the comics palpatine told dooku to take out obi wan than toy with anakin and make him use the dark side.
R/whoosh
"You can't have a good lightsaber battle until someone loses a hand"
Sequel Trilogy: ...
Nothing in the sequel trilogy is good
I rather like the duel between Rey and Kylo Ren on the death star remains. No hand loss, but he gets shanked
It would be interesting if they had cut off Kylo's hand. It's an inversion of the trope because the villain loses their hand instead, while still having a Skywalker lose their first lightsaber fight and hand.
lets be honest though. The fight scenes in the sequels were terribly choreographed either way. Who the hell even overlooked them?
@@lapplandkun9273 You say that yeah if you watch the originals are equally as bad
I always thought anikin would make a good apprentice for dooku. He might teach him some restraint and help him to master more forms of combat
Anakin did master all forms. Dooku believes in only using and mastering one style tho
anakin: my powers have doub-
dooku: *oh stfu*
The Way of the Krayt Dragon vs the Way of the Ysalamiri
Fiore de Liberi Vs Ito Ryu
People still can't accept that ROTS Anakin was stronger than Dooku. Wow
they don't like anakin
It's tough to call. I'd say Dooku is the better combatant overall, but Anakin was *really* strong in an area where Dooku had a (relative) weakness.
There's really no way to tell cause Dooku was going easy
ROTS Anakin is very underrated. hes top 5 in the jedi order at the very least. theres an argument for him to be the 3rd best duelist
Anakin killed the lightsaber instructor in other words he killed the one who teaches lightsaber combat to every single Jedi in the temple.
While I typically favor your analysis videos in general Allen, I must respectfully disagree on this one. It isn't accurate to attribute Anakin's victory over Count Dooku to Dooku's own dueling abilities eroding. If you've read any of the former EU novels such as the *Revenge of the Sith* novelization or *Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader,* it's stated that by the time of ep. 3, Anakin was on the path to becoming the greatest duelist in the Jedi Order. The consensus among the High Council, even those who were his doubters, now believed it was only a matter of time before he surpassed both Mace Windu and Yoda as the Order's single greatest duelist.
Dooku's skills with a lightsaber weren't decaying at this time as much as Anakin was now fully manifesting his Force abilities as the Chosen One after a dozen or so years of Jedi training under his belt. Anakin's advancements were coming at an exponential rate now that he was in the prime of his life, and now that he'd gained invaluable combat experience from serving on the battlefield as a frontline commander during the Clone Wars. In short, the rematch with Count Dooku came when Anakin Skywalker was at his apex as the Jedi Order's deadliest lightsaber duelist.
Wasn't Sidious also influencing the fight?
@@TheCharlesJackson No. That was a fan theory and never stated in any official material.
@@thewarner2139 gotcha
Agreed. Honestly, the movies probably made Anakin a tad too powerful. What I mean is that based off his showings especially with how he decimated Dooku, I find it hard to believe that Obi-wan's and Anakin's battle was as drawn out as it was on Mustafar. I think that realistically, Anakin/Vader would've won the battle before Obi-wan was able to reach the fabled high ground. Even Obi-wan in the RotS novel was CERTAIN that he had no chance against Anakin after feeling his power. Yes, while Obi-wan was a stunning master with form 3, Anakin was just as skilled in Form V if not more so with superior physical capabilities.
Even beyond lightsaber skills, we know that Anakin was already a fair amount stronger in the Force than Obi-wan. What makes no sense is why Anakin simply didn't blast through Kenobi's defenses with the Force and snap his neck. We saw Dooku Force choke Obi-wan with near ease, and Vader is undoubtedly stronger on Mustafar than Dooku ever was. Also, it would be the ultimate ego stroke to Anakin's new found powers to simply end his former master without ever having to ignite his lightsaber.
All in all, I believe the situation in which Anakin lost to Obi-wan at the end makes perfect sense. However, the battle actually lasting long enough to get to that point is mind boggling.
@@willcruikshank7972 RotS novel only applies to Legends, which is a completely different entity when it comes to the Mustafar duel.
Current canon says Anakin and Obi-Wan were complete equals in RotS, both in dueling and in Force ability. We see this during their force push battle, where neither is able to overpower the other. Likewise, it's rare for anyone to resort to a direct force attack, especially in the middle of a duel, because it requires concentration and the user often risks leaving themselves vulnerable to attack.
As for dueling, Obi-Wan trained Anakin and had the advantage of knowing his techniques like the back of his own hand, in addition to his own form III mastery, and having more combat experience than Anakin, all of it contributed to Obi-Wan's victory.
I love that anakin always uses the falling avalanche technique with dooku, and he basically lulls Dooku into using it himself so he can counter and disarm him. I wonder if the showrunners put it it in intentionally
The way Palpatine was watching the duel on Naboo feels like he had planned on Dooku dying then.
8. Battle of Geonosis: 0:32
7. Duel of Tatooine: 8:47
6. Duel of Vanqor: 10:28
5. Duel of Naboo: 10:56
4. Duel of Naboo II: 11:54
3. Duel of Oba Diah: 13:15
2. Coruscant Vision: 15:01
1. Battle of Coruscant: 15:40
8:23 ah the mystical and difficult force ability known as “bad choreography”
It would’ve been all fixed if Dooku, like, stuns him or something, the way Maul stunned Qui-Gon? Idk
Yeah if only they did the finishing blows a little faster since that is pretty consistent in the sequel duels
Lets all give these men a hand for all of their hard work as lightsaber duelists
Me whenever my mom looks through my phone and I forgot to delete my history
17:05
Micah Breaker relatable
Anakin: My powers have doubled since the last time we met Count
Dooku: Good to know youve improved that much since last week
It wasn’t a week but 😂
It was months many months
13:11 Kenobi could've killed Dooku by stabbing him through the back.
He probably didn’t do this for two reasons: 1. He was busy with the magna guard
2. He strictly follows the Jedi code and doesn’t think about killing his opponents immediately
Either way, it was just plot armor. The clone wars can’t end that quickly.
Generation tech: good lightsaber battles don't end until someone loses an arm.
Duel of the fates: am I a joke to you
Other lightsaber battles: exist
Well, technically...
You could say *two* arms were lost.
This is getting out of hand. Now they're losing two of them!
I remember being a kid and seeing the Anakin vs dooku in the clone wars movie. The music, the fight, it was absolutely beautiful. That movie gets a lot of shit but remember that we're growing up. We look at that movie with a more serious view, while kids are totally in love with it. That movie still has a special place in my heart. And it will always be like that.
One thing that isn't mention in the video is that in the battle of Oba Diah. Dooku fought not just extra saucy but also very smart as he made Anakin fight defensively forcing Obi-Wan to fight offensively hence switching their roles in battle.
This was a great analysis of these fights man. great work
i like the parrallelism during the naboo II duel at 12:57. It's the same move Luke did at the end of his duel with Vader in episode 6, and I love it.
the prequels have depth and development to there duels the sequels are just *SWiNg SwINg SwWiMG* “YaY wE WiN
Yes. Depth like "I can't love you. I am a senator."
Or Darth mauls fantastic character arc.
Oh wait.
christian schmidt yes now shut up
@@pilkers2 Sure you don't want to talk about Qui gons awesome character traits? Wait... did he have some? Let me think... no... except monotone, he hasn't any.
christian schmidt
1. He believes in the chosen one more than any Jedi
2.he wants to protect anakin
3.he is focused and in tune with the force
Also what character traits does Rey have other than “Mary Sue”
@@pilkers2 This aren't character traits, that is what the character did. LMFAOOOOOO
I have a question you may be interested in for a future video.
How strong a specimen of Wookiee was Chewbacca?
Obviously by human standards he was, physically, a true beast, but when you compare him to characters like Tarfful he could be the Wookiee equivalent to a skinny nerd. Where do you think he scales for Wookiees.
“Naboo 2” electric lightning boogaloo
10:21 me when I get rejected
Great video, always realized Dooku and Anakin fought a bunch but never noticed the evolution of Anakin’s training
I love how our expectations are subverted in Attack of the Clones. Count Dooku is a stand in for Darth Vader in the Throne Room battle from ep6. Vader is a Lord and Dooku is a Count.
Except unlike in EP 6 Skywalker gets his butt kicked by an actual Dark Lord.
Yes send out our senators so they can actually do something
I enjoy hearing your sharp intellect analysing these situations so competently.
Great video, anakin and dookus duels is one of my favourites of the clone wars era, love how it evolves
Please do this for Obi-Wan and Maul, or Obi-Wan and General Grevious!
I absolutely loved this you got a sub
I just love the subtle storytelling just through the fight scenes themselves. Actions speak louder than words.
These deul break downs r badass man!! keep up the good work
In their last duel in the battle of Coruscant Count Dooku was holding back becose Palpatine ordered him to do that. He wants Anakin become Angry and fell to the dark side.
The movie didn't show it. Anakin beat Dooku, because he is more powerful. End of discussion.
christian schmidt yes, more powerful in force, but Dooku was better duelist.
@@cisarvitiate Sadly, they didn't use the force during the fight, so...
christian schmidt sadly, you probably didn’t read what I wrote 4 days ago so I don’t care about you anymore
@@cisarvitiate I did. That's why I wrote "the movie didn't show dooku would hold back." Ironically the movie shows how Anakin punched and kicked dooku all the time. The movie shows the exact opposite of what you try to tell me.
Actually, a fencing style would probably be one of the most effective stances you could take for duelling especially with lightsabers also duko’s style was based off hi actors who actually knew knew swordsmanship so it's not just for style
Bruh lol you commentary is too funny but very true. I loved how you painted the picture of each fight . Keep up the good job my brother
I liked how you brought up the different fight styles that got used
Anakin versus Dooku = the true journey and growth of a Jedi who defies the Sith
despite fallen into darkness
Dooku was one of my favourite characters. Christopher Lee was brilliant God rest his sole
I love this particular video. I love this channel. I wish I could hit "like" every time I watched it.
Great video!! Thank you!!
It's important to note that Anakin dueled better then Kenobi in episode 2, and was able to match dooku blow for blow until a single mistake at the end, according to the novel. Also Anakin did not utilize form 5 at this point, he did not get into form 5 until the middle of the clone wars. Nevertheless great video
@@kobelittle7330 sorry I meant to say djem so, he did use form 5 shien
@@kobelittle7330 again the forms are general and not strict, shien is best geared towards blaster deflection doesn't mean you can't use it for lightsaber combat, it just won't be as effective as djem so
Dooku in Anakin's equals where Yoda and Mace Windu So why not make what if Dooku trained Anakin? instead of Obi-Wan
Because Dooku quit the Jedi specifically because of Qui-Gon's death, that was the straw that broke the camel's back along with the whole Naboo Crisis and countless other instances of political corruption.
I remember reading the novel for ROTS and recall Palpatine telling Dooku to hold back against Anakin to test him or something like that.
Dooku wasn’t as powerful and anakin,dooku simply was outmatched
Amazing how on each fight, Anakin becomes better by learning Dooku's fighting style, and getting closer and closer to killing him.
What was Dooku's endgame for the final duel?
Did he throw the fight and plan to be captured alive, only to be _screwed over by a Sith Lord?_ [I'm shocked]
Did he plan to escape and let Palpatine be rescued and thereby gain some popularity (did he really need it?), and was actually defeated …well, dearmed… okay disarmed by Anakin?
Did he plan to win? Sidious would not be pleased if he killed Anakin, but what about Obi-Wan?
In the novels its stated he was trying to get captured
In legends, all these questions are answered in Matthew Stover’s Revenge of the Sith novelization. It’s wonderfully written, and one of my favorite books of all time.
casbott Sidious had a plan if the so called Chosen one beat count dooku he would’ve become apprentice but if dooku beat him then Dooku would stay as a apprentice they would have probably left obi wan to die or execute him idk what he planned with palps after either leave him or keep him captive and bring him to a Cis base
Palpatine didn't actually tell Dooku to go easy on Anakin.
George Lucas: "Palpatine has told Dooku, 'I have somebody who I think will be a great Sith Lord and I think we can get him to join us. But we need to test him. So we're going to set up a situation where you fight him. If he gets the best of you, then I'll stop the fight and he'll have passed the test. If you get the best of him, then we'll let him go, and we'll let him stew for a few more years until he's ready.' But behind it, obviously, is Palpatine's real intention: If Anakin is good enough, Anakin can kill Dooku and become Palpatine's new apprentice. But he didn't tell Dooku that."
-Star Wars: The Making of Revenge of the Sith.
Palpatine wanted to see if Anakin was good enough to defeat Dooku. He was instructed not to kill him, but you don't have to kill someone to defeat someone.
Episode 1: 9
Episode 2: 19
Episode 3: 22
Episode 4: 41
Episode 5: 44
Episode 6: 45
Leo Roemer google it bro he’s 20 in episode 2 and 23 in episode 3
Roku the God dude, look at the Wookiepedia, and Yoda’s datapad, which contains the ages of Star Wars characters.
No, because he’s 19-22 in the clone wars, so the ages are correct
nicole you may need to recheck.
Leo Roemer recheck what? i’m agreeing with your first comment lol
Thank you I've learned a lot more from your channel
That was pretty awesome. Very well done.
"Trying to escape with his head"
Hehe.
Bro, you got to admit, that move he uses to cut his hands off looks clean as he'll no matter how many times you see it
Appreciate you and your works my friend
Do more vids like this. Awesomely summarized and explained
This was a really interesting video, would you guys consider doing the same with Obi-Wan Kenobi and General Grievous after the new season ends on the off-chance of their duel in the Crystal Crisis arc making it in??
Anakin kills the lights so Dooku can't see his strikes but little did he know.....Lightsabers glow in the dark!!! dun dun dun!
I thought it would be so he couldn't trip over the wires
Very nice break down👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Anakin represented a new breed of Jedi Knight. A kind forged in the fires of war. Knighted amidst fighting in a massive war...
The final fight between anakin and dooku in the clone wars doesn’t really make sense to me (the last real one at least). The show is obviously trying to show how anakin is getting closer and closer to being able to kill Dooku but the fight goes completely against that. Dooku almost completely destroys them with no effort and goes completely against the narrative these fights are setting up
there are comics of Anakin as a padowan/youngling training and his time at the temple????
Yes
There are comics of everything
@@sleinzer2302 is it canon
@@TeemoForLife Nope, Legends. But I've never seen why people care about Disney vs Legends, both have good material and compelling stories. I won't pretend Legends doesn't have some insane and stupid stuff, but if we're all being honest, Disney has pulled shit at least as bad. Enjoy the stories that're out there, there's a hell of a lot and plenty of good ones.
@@StarSage66 disney had produced a lot of garbage *cough* helicopter lightsabers *cough*
4:42 I will never get tired of his weird smile
That scene with dooku from the first battle might be an example of force speed(aka: dooku uses the force for extra speed burst in that one seccond)
4:45 his hand was cut off. Then it just reappears, please explain
Lol, you're right.
If you mean Obi Wan then no. Count Dooku sliced a big wound in Kenobi's arm but didn't fully cut it off.
@@sheevone4359 but it showed that it was cut off. But.ok!
@@fireblastfilms6785 if you put it on 0.25x speed you'll see that Kenobi's arm violently moves behind his body due to the blow he suffered from Dooku's strike. However we don't see the arm fly further away to the ground.
@@sheevone4359 I think he's talking about Anakin.
I would have liked to see Count Dooku take Maul apart considering his vastly superior skill and power in the Force. Further Dooku was far and away a much greater strategist and tactician than Maul ever was.
Legends Dooku could've handled him. However canon Dooku wasn't as knowledgeable or skilled as his EU version. Maul showed how tactical he can be in SoD, was comparable in force ability and ranked as a better duelist.
@@thewarner2139 I don't find that to be the case based on the evidence we've seen, including in SoD. Firstly it was Sidious and Tyranus plan to allow Maul to escape and even succeed initially to draw out Talzin-which worked so Dooku and Grievous 'capture' and even his alliance with Maul is stated openly in the comic to be a ruse to allow Sidious and the CIS to reach Talzin. The fact Maul's strategy only serves to get all his allies eliminated and that he requires Talzin to save him just to flee does not speak of great strategic foresight or tactical thinking. While DisCan Dooku is certainly inferior to his EU counterpart, we never see any evidence fo Maul being a superior duelist to Dooku, quite the opposite in fact since Maul never really improves against Kenobi in his duels all the way up to his death in Rebels, being essentially a stagnant character in ability and thought. Even in Son of Dathomir, Maul fails to best the Jedi he encounters, but Dooku effortlessly kills his opponent with a Force pull and impalement, which is an impressive feat against an on guard Jedi master. maul by comparison only has done something similar against Satine, who was a prisoner and did not have the Force.
We've seen Dooku repeatedly defeat Kenobi against whom Maul has never triumphed in one on one combat, that Dooku does this while almost always having to fight Anakin as well is a pretty clear indicator he is the superior duelist. Finally the only negatives we actually have stated about Dooku is from Sidious to Vader, which makes sense in context as Vader hated Dooku and Sidious always told his apprentices what they wanted to hear to better keep them in line.
I'm not a big fan of the Son of Dathomir comic in and of itself as it had the opportunity to put Maul and Dooku into a duel but danced around the issue without actually addressing it(likely due to Maul's bizarre popularity with the fanbase and his marketability for merchandise compared to Dooku)
TheWarner213 oh hey it’s u again
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Maul does defeat Kenobi during his initial return in TCW, as well as forcing him and Ventress to retreat in order to stay alive. While Maul doesn't defeat anyone else of significance, he does hold his own against both Aayla and Mace, the latter of whom holds a legitimate victory over Palpatine in canon. Likewise, it is confirmed in AEYNTK that Maul is superior to Dooku in dueling, even if only slightly, so it's not up for debate. Dooku is later defeated by Quinlan Vos in Dark Disciple, along with Filoni's comments that he would have died against Hondo's pirate crew if he attempted to fight back.
The producers in Rebels state that Obi-Wan became familiar with Maul's technique, just as Anakin did with Dooku; with their final battle on Tatooine being that of two swordmasters playing out multiple scenarios in their minds before actually making a move. During the Cylo incident, Palpatine tells Vader that Maul was a loss of potential, whereas Dooku only ever served as a tool to be used and disposed of. Canon Dooku is a completely different entity compared to Legends. He isn't nearly as formidable or dangerous, Palpatine chose him primarily for his wealth, politics and experience handling the Jedi council.
@@thewarner2139 I'm afraid there are several flaws and misconceptions in your analysis. Maul and Savage gang up on Kenobi in their initial encounter and manage to overpower him together, this does not show Maul as being capable of standing up to Kenobi on even ground, but shows that he is in fact an inferior duelist that requires support to contend with Kenobi-which is a pattern in every duel he has save for their first meeting on Naboo and last meeting on Tatooine in DisCan- both duels he faced Kenobi alone, he was defeated. Looking at the second claim you make on forcing Asajj and Kenobi to retreat, that duel takes place after Savage and Maul had captured(and subsequently beaten Kenobi while unconscious if you see the bruises on the Jedi when Asajj rescues him) Asajj also had to lend Kenobi a lightsaber he was unfamiliar with and fight with a single blade herself. The fact Maul and Savage were unable to kill either of them or prevent their escape again demonstrate a failure in skill, not the opposite.
Aayla in both Legends and DisCan is not considered a gifted duelist, merely standard and has no feats of achievement against Jedi or Sith duelists to warrant particular acclaim, which again, the fact Maul is unable to finish such an inferior duelist off is proof of his lacking in this area, whereas Dooku did effortlessly finish his opponent in that same battle. Further when Maul faces Mace, he is not alone, but supported by his commandos and he quickly disengages and escapes with their help. That's not holding his own, that is fighting with support and even then disengaging under cover of others.
Further Maul is never explicitly stated by anyone who fought him in comics, books or other media as being superior to Dooku in dueling skills, so you are actually in error there. Dooku is considered and stated in both DisCan and the EU to be on par with Mace as a duelist and able to contend with, though not defeat Yoda. Maul by contrast holds no such feats against the top tiers of the Jedi Order.
Fioloni himself admits that he wanted to introduce a new character and put Dooku, Kenobi and Skywalker in a position they would have to cooperate. This is a classic example of a humorous episode found in many Saturday morning cartoons, regardless of whether it makes sense in universe of not. Dooku later deals with the Pyke's attacking him while also fighting Kenobi and Skywalker with almost contemptuous ease. Throughout the Dooku captured episodes it is revealed that they can use the Force in their bindings and yet Dooku only uses the Force to kill at the end of the episode. Other than levitating a key and the mind trick by Kenobi they do not use the Force simply to extend the gag of them having to work together. Further, Dooku does not(again for comedic and plot purposes in those episodes) notice his lightsaber and Anakin's are lifted from him, in spite of being inside his cloak and the Kowakian being outside his cloak. That we see Dooku use the Force to deal with similar groups of enemies later in the series with his lightsaber as just a backup further throws those episodes validity into question. Dooku's defeat in Dark Disciple comes after facing both Ventress and Vos, teaching Vos the actual ways of the Sith as his new apprentice and Vos giving in fully to the Dark Side after Dooku was worn out from the battle with them both. Aside from the obvious issues with power scaling in the new DisCan on Vos being equal to someone who can fight Kenobi and Skywalker both on even ground-who are both regarded as stronger than Vos and more talented as duelists- you have discrepancies in Ventress skill level in that novel, which again come down to plot requirements similar to Galen Marek somehow being able to beat Darth Vader and fight Palpatine in the old EU, something that in universe makes no sense the more thought that one puts into it.
Finally as I have addressed earlier, Palpatine tells Vader what he wanted to hear for the following reasons. One, Vader hated Dooku passionately, so Palpatine always encouraged this and fed it, the same as he did whenever the Jedi Council sided against Anakin, he's telling Anakin what he wants to hear. Two, Maul was a loss, not in potential, but as a blindly obedient dog with no ambitions of his own, so Palpatine never had to be concerned about him as a threat building his own power, unlike Dooku who had the means and ability to become a viable threat and the ambition(in DisCan) to depose him. Thirdly, Vader's concern in that incident is being discarded like Dooku was, so Palpatine is telling him again, what he wants to hear, that he is different, the same thing Palpatine has done since meeting Anakin so he's not a reliable narrator in that sense.
I've been looking forward to this
“My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count.”
“I don’t care.”
Dooku rekt him in most of the duels
he is a top tier duelist. Only jedi Yoda and Mace could defeat him
@@TeemoForLife nah, he'd beat Mace Windu. He looked up to dooku
@@NoCluYT with mace it is a tie
@@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 Sith Dooku would lose to Windu, but Jedi Dooku would put Windu in his grave. Mace's ability to use Vapaad is highly effective against darksiders
@Star Trek Theory While I agree with you, that doesn't mean he's a shit fighter. Vapaad is really what sets him apart from any other jedi, plus the dude's just naturally powerful as fuck, I mean there's a reason why he's second in command on the jedi council
If only Mace Windu was available...
I feel one of my favorite duals in the clone wars was Anakin vs Dooku on tatooine
Sibbed off this vid alone! Would love to see more like this
Anakin before the battle over Coursant: Obi-Wan how do I deal with someone like Dooku?
Obi-Wan: I don’t know, use some underhanded techniques. This is war you know.
Anakin: *Underhanded* you say...
_Dooku did have a way out at the end of his final duel._
[Anakin cuts off Dooku's hands ending the battle. Anakin catches Dooku's lightsabre and ignites it and puts both lightsabres to his neck]
*Supreme Chancellor:* Good, Anakin, good. Kill him.
[Dooku looks at Palpatine in shock]
*Supreme Chancellor:* Kill him now.
*Count Dooku:* [speaking quickly] Palpatine is Darth Siddious, he wants to turn you to the dark side, I'm his Apprentice. He set this whole thing up.
*Anakin Skywalker:* What?
*Supreme Chancellor:* Dew it!
See how dangerous he is, his lies could tear the Republic apart.
[Anakin hesitates]
*Count Dooku:* Wake up Kenobi, I can't do anything [displays his stumps], leave Siddious restrained in his chair for the time being [Anakin looks confuse at the mention of Siddious], …Palpatine [Anakin realises who he meant].
If Palpatine breaks free you'll know he's a Sith Lord. Secure all the lightsabers - Kenobi's, so he can't summon one.… [Tired] And slap him awake.
Oh I need a medical droid.
*Supreme Chancellor:* We have to get off this ship, he's trying to trick you into staying put. I told you he was dangerous, even unarmed… he's _underhanded._
*Count Dooku:* There's a medikit over there, only place on this blasted droid ship that has one. Give Obi-Wan a stimulant to revive him, and a painkiller for me if you would be so kind.
[Anakin waves his robotic hand at Dooku]
Okay half a painkiller, cause this is double the hands.
[Obi-Wan groans and wakes up after Anakin injects him].
*Obi-Wan:* Did I miss something?
Why's the Chancellor still tied up up?
*Count Dooku:* General Kenobi, remember what I said on Geonosis, Palpatine is the Sith Lord I warned you about [Palpatines eyes go wide, he mutters "motherfucker" under his breathe - one expletive is allowed in a PG film]. Be on guard and draw your sabre [indicating Anakin's belt], he is more powerful than even Master Yoda.
*Chancellor Palpatine:* As I said, even his words are weapons.
*Count Dooku:* [to Kenobi's] He told Skywalker to kill me after I had surrendered and was helpless [holds up his stumps]. He wants to turn Skywalker to the dark side and make him his new Apprentice.
*Obi-Wan Kenobi:* Is that true Anakin?
*Anakin Skywalker:* It is my master, he told me to kill a unarmed prisoner.
[Obi-Wan's eyes go wide in realisation…Anakin's jaw drops as it finally penetrates his thick head that he's been played all this time].
*Count Dooku:* Finally… now can I please get some painkillers.
*Supreme Chancellor:* [Now speaking as Darth Siddious]
Dammit… so be it.
[Gestures and Dooku's sabre, now holstered on Anakin's belt, flies forward. But Anakin is able to grab it in time, igniting it. Both he and Kenobi activate their own lightsabers. Darth Siddious's restraints fall away]
*Darth Siddious:* Treason is it? No, you all died, only I managed to survive. I suppose I'll just have to settle for Ventress as my new Apprentice.
Pity young Skywalker I had plans for you… such potential.
[Force lightning leaps from Siddious's fingers and sends Obi-Wan flying back to be knocked senseless against a bulkhead, yet again. Siddious then turns his attention to Anakin as he has charged forward, but Anakin is able to block the Force lightning with both blades crossed. Anakin is inching slightly forward, but also being affected by glancing shocks. It's a stalemate, will Anakin be able to press ahead to strike down Siddious? Will Darth Siddious be able to overcome Anakin Skywalker with his dark power of Force lightni… _blaster bolts hit him straight in the heart]._
*Obi-Wan Kenobi:* [throws the blaster away] Uh! So uncivilized.
Tell me why you weren't there when the writers were writing the script?
When you realize that the reason ankin hates sand is because of all the painful memories he had in on a desert planet there as a kid, he was a slave and his mother died.
Great video