This is so sick this dude is crazy knowledgeable. And it’s soo nice to see older guys like him still be in the business of building and riding. It’s sad that everyone thinks it’s a chore to ride or they think it’s dumb. They don’t know what they’re missin
Thank you for watching man!! 🤘 Video 1 - Center Cases and Transmission - th-cam.com/video/ASpYpSJ7X6A/w-d-xo.html Video 3 - Top End Assembly - th-cam.com/video/skHge7Zi-y8/w-d-xo.html Video of This Motor Running - th-cam.com/video/ctupjItBnHM/w-d-xo.html Chapters 0:00 - Intro 0:15 - Kick Starter Assembly 2:00 - Counter Balancer Install 4:19 - Primary Gear Mod For Hinson Basket 7:09 - Shifting Assembly Install 11:47 - Clutch Basket Install 14:08 - Clutch arm and Push Rod Install 14:54 - Explanation and Install of Rekluse TorqDrive Clutch Pack 23:03 - Adjusting the Clutch arm Throw for a Perfect Clutch Pull 29:05 - Clutch Cover and Water Pump Install 36:44 - Stator Side Assembly/Vent Mod Tools and Parts in The Video Crank puller/Installer - bit.ly/3kBXDCr Case Splitter - bit.ly/3dNh3D4 Engine Stand - bit.ly/2Tg3J1T Clutch holding tool - amzn.to/2O6WSFh Red Loctite - bit.ly/3szbpIF Rekluse Clutch - rekluse.com/product/torqdrive... Rekluse Oil - bit.ly/2NGF5oK Hinson Basket - bit.ly/2NDMQM9
What’s up is 2018blabla yo My Instagram. Got hacked I lost my account I’m trying to get back to it I have to wait it out this sucks dude Man this looks good dude I like the way the fingers in the clutch basket are protected by those sleeves my first time seeing that bad ass man
@@sharvisgainey1573 on the grommet I sometimes use yamabond 6B but otherwise I do not use sealant on the stator cover. I do grease the gasket which has a sealing effect.
In terms of the rotating mass, do the steel clutch plates contribute to the overall flywheel effect in any noticeable way? For what I do, I run a flywheel weight on my 03 CR250R and like the mellowed power delivery. Brilliant tutorial, many thanks.
Been a subscriber since 5k. Keep up the great content man. We love it. P.S I talked to Joe, we both hope you’ll get a cannondale on the channel at some point!!!
I've got one of those billet water pumps for the 250r i might have to try it out. I've got about 20hrs since my entire rebuild. Im going to be ordering some of Dave's/ led billet cases. Going to have Dave repair my matching cases for my org motor and put em aside. I know there aren't to many 250rs with thier orginal cases out there.
Yea it's pretty cool and fast i got it up to 80 and was still pulling. It's unique because theres not many left and they were only made one year. I would love to send you pics of it.
14:38 the bearing you are showing is the 1989 needle style P/N: 91001-147-003 BEARING, NEEDLE (12MM), 1988 & 1987 used a revised multi-ball bearing design P/N: 22352-HB9-670 PIECE, CLUTCH LIFTER + x3 P/N: 96211-04000 BALL, STEEL (#4) , 1986 had the original single ball bearing type P/N: 22352-KA4-000 PIECE, CLUTCH LIFTER + P/N: 96211-09000 BALL, STEEL (#9) (9/32). I edited this post to put an end to any argument on which style came with each trx. 1989 is the only year that had the needle bearing for the clutch actuator rod. Not only is the rod different for 1989, so is the pressure plate that comes in the 1989 kit from Honda. The bearing shown in the video is not from an 88 like I originally said. Check Wikipedia, it even mentions the change in 1989, it is source #3. . Also, the service manual clearly shows all differences from 1986-1989, it is in the CLUTCH section page 7-0. THAT IS FACT, THAT IS THE END OF THIS.
85-86 ATC/TRX used a single ball bearing under the clutch lifter. 87 TRX used 3 small ball bearings and are very rare to find in a machine as they failed right away and we replaced them with the 85-86 set up. 88-89 used the needle bearing clutch lifter and can be found using this part number 22351-HA2-000.
@@davemooreracing 88 and 89 are different. In the video that is a needle bearing from the 89 upgrade kit Sabo probably purchased when he did Neils (rip) mod. I have an 88, click on one of my videos for proof.
@@davemooreracing What do you mean, the last 4 videos should be proof that I have an 88. I did the 89 upgrade swap a few summers ago so thats why its still fresh in my head. Im not arguing with you over engine building, I am just stating the fact that the needle bearing is 1989 only, no other year had that. Service manual page 7-0 proves it. (edited had the page number wrong)
@@steve069 Did you buy your 88 new in 88? i bought my 85 new in 85 brand new 86 brand new 87 brand new 88 and a brand new 89 all whale working as the parts manager for Salem Honda. I have no need to read any thing i lived it.
as he says i want people to see how i solve the problems with the clutch plates, mike edits out how he is using the screw driver to wigle the plates in lololol, as i type they show it lol, tewll me to shut my mowff
Actuality Im in the process of building a pretty custom motor for Justin. I know Him and Mike had a falling out but i met them both in person at the same time and took on Justin's project before everything happened. Nether one of them has asked me to pick a side nor have they talked badly about the other one to me so i treat them both the same way. I am a man of my word and unless you turn on me i am gonna build you something pretty amazing because for me its ALL about going fast brother.
I can't wait for project yz125, because I just finished my 1999 yz125 and I'm wondering how yours is going to turn out. My current project is a 1980 Yamaha IT 425 so i can't wait to get that thing done.
I have been using 2x4 blocks when assembling engines since I went to class. My next purchases I want to be able to get me a table lift and an engine stand. It will make the whole process easier for me, especially the older you get, the less bending over you have to do the easier it is on you. Great video!!!!!
since when is it hard to install clutch plates? those stainless steel inserts seem janky AF though. who cares if you get grooves in the basket. that is easy to replace and only a couple hundred bucks. i dont like the thought of having extra parts in there that could potentially crack/break/come loose and cause havoc.
Oh man, this is a tried and true setup that's been used on many bikes for some time now and has just recently come to the 250Rs; call up Rekluse or ride a bike with one and see for yourself bro 🤘
I don’t own a 250r, nor do I plan to in the near future, but these videos and the procedures practiced, will help me rebuild my YZ250 engine again immensely. Thanks for the amazing, informative content Mike and Dave!
Someone put red lock tight on my kx80 clutch basket and I tryed every trick in the book to get it off and I never was able to get it off lol, I know he's knowledgeable just figured I would mention that
It was mostly to do with wanting to weld and true my crank; bottom end needs to come apart to get in there and Dave offered to do an entire build series with me so I wanted to take advantage of that!
Wow you guys make it all look so easy i love that clutch i need to do one on my 250r i just bought a 2014 trx450er and am trying to get it ready for gncc thanks for all the great vids bro you are the leader in the sport quad Revolution!!! Thanks again bud
I know that dude. One of the smartest and most talented persons on this planet. Thanks dave!
Awesome video guys 👍
Thank you for watching Rekluse! 🤘🤘🤘 We love the TorqDrive!
As a Oregon rider....locktite that shit or its coming off...I like his no nonsense attitude as a mechanic like myself...
This is so sick this dude is crazy knowledgeable. And it’s soo nice to see older guys like him still be in the business of building and riding. It’s sad that everyone thinks it’s a chore to ride or they think it’s dumb. They don’t know what they’re missin
A chore to ride? Man, you're not hanging with the right people! haha; thank you for watching the video
So cool to watch Dave do his thing! I love that he shared common misconceptions!
Ahhh Mr.Brewer... we meet again
Damn, I have put multiple 250r motors together and have always struggled with the shifter detent. You are never too old to learn.
Very true man!
Thank you for watching man!! 🤘
Video 1 - Center Cases and Transmission - th-cam.com/video/ASpYpSJ7X6A/w-d-xo.html
Video 3 - Top End Assembly - th-cam.com/video/skHge7Zi-y8/w-d-xo.html
Video of This Motor Running - th-cam.com/video/ctupjItBnHM/w-d-xo.html
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Kick Starter Assembly
2:00 - Counter Balancer Install
4:19 - Primary Gear Mod For Hinson Basket
7:09 - Shifting Assembly Install
11:47 - Clutch Basket Install
14:08 - Clutch arm and Push Rod Install
14:54 - Explanation and Install of Rekluse TorqDrive Clutch Pack
23:03 - Adjusting the Clutch arm Throw for a Perfect Clutch Pull
29:05 - Clutch Cover and Water Pump Install
36:44 - Stator Side Assembly/Vent Mod
Tools and Parts in The Video
Crank puller/Installer - bit.ly/3kBXDCr
Case Splitter - bit.ly/3dNh3D4
Engine Stand - bit.ly/2Tg3J1T
Clutch holding tool - amzn.to/2O6WSFh
Red Loctite - bit.ly/3szbpIF
Rekluse Clutch - rekluse.com/product/torqdrive...
Rekluse Oil - bit.ly/2NGF5oK
Hinson Basket - bit.ly/2NDMQM9
This is legendary!!!!!! U always have epic content!!!! What u gonna do next? Find a banshee goat and build the ultimate banshee (Cheetahhhhhh).
What’s up is 2018blabla yo My Instagram. Got hacked I lost my account I’m trying to get back to it I have to wait it out this sucks dude Man this looks good dude I like the way the fingers in the clutch basket are protected by those sleeves my first time seeing that bad ass man
This a great video series! I remember how much detail you put into this motor when you built it! Dave sure makes the process easy to understand too
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for following all bro!
Nice...........Nice👏
Great builder great filming and ask the right questions great job Michael and Dave
Thank you for the feedback man!
Dave Moore definitely knows all about the tips tricks mods with knowledge like eating a piece of cake ! Good videos
How do you like that boss racing counterbalancer holder?
Dave still work on 250r’s?
What became of the hpi ignition as I got one for mine. Did yours give trouble.
I still have it and they work fine but in my particular case, the OEM was making better power.
Would be awesome to see Dave work on a banshee motor 👀
Got some Banshee stuff coming this year man!
Dave should sell that clutch tool 🔧. Way better than any other tool I've used or seen. Package deal with a motor stand. Great job explaining setup.
I think there's a lot of people in that camp man haha, Dave said his email is flooding with requests for the stand!
@@MichaelSabo what sealant did you use on the stator side
@@sharvisgainey1573 on the grommet I sometimes use yamabond 6B but otherwise I do not use sealant on the stator cover. I do grease the gasket which has a sealing effect.
I'm glad your making these videos its definitely teaching me a lot of neat tips and tricks
Glad you like them!
This is invaluable, thanks Dave for your mentorship
Thanks for such excellent detail. We are building a 250R at this time. This is all good info. Thanks.
In terms of the rotating mass, do the steel clutch plates contribute to the overall flywheel effect in any noticeable way? For what I do, I run a flywheel weight on my 03 CR250R and like the mellowed power delivery.
Brilliant tutorial, many thanks.
Dam did he just give you that clutch set up
I got that right from Rekluse.com 🤘
I was gonna get me one but good god 350$ for it
What part# is the 88 clutch hat spacer???
Nice vid
Thank you bro! 🤘
Been a subscriber since 5k. Keep up the great content man. We love it. P.S I talked to Joe, we both hope you’ll get a cannondale on the channel at some point!!!
That mechanic knows his shit. I like the tool he made with the plasma cutter.
I've got one of those billet water pumps for the 250r i might have to try it out. I've got about 20hrs since my entire rebuild. Im going to be ordering some of Dave's/ led billet cases. Going to have Dave repair my matching cases for my org motor and put em aside. I know there aren't to many 250rs with thier orginal cases out there.
Yea it's pretty cool and fast i got it up to 80 and was still pulling. It's unique because theres not many left and they were only made one year. I would love to send you pics of it.
I'm guna have to look into that clutch being rekluse is just down the road from my house here in boise idaho
Awesome vid series bro!
what does dave moore do about slipping kicker gears? is there a way to shim them up?
I hear you on the red Loctite I try to use 271 or 272 on everything i touch a little dab all do👌😅
Great vidya as always brother glad your finally working with someone who want to see ya out tearing it up
Thank you bro! 🤘
Very helpful, I love this guys knowledge, a lot of info, thanks Mikey
Pete Schaller thank you for watching! 🤘
Dave please start a channel!
Is there a link for the Rekluse clutch?
In the description and top comment my man! 🤘
We need more of his wisdom
Sabo how can i get a hold of this guy to do my motor?!
Amazing content 🤙
14:38 the bearing you are showing is the 1989 needle style P/N: 91001-147-003 BEARING, NEEDLE (12MM), 1988 & 1987 used a revised multi-ball bearing design P/N: 22352-HB9-670 PIECE, CLUTCH LIFTER + x3 P/N: 96211-04000 BALL, STEEL (#4) , 1986 had the original single ball bearing type P/N: 22352-KA4-000 PIECE, CLUTCH LIFTER + P/N: 96211-09000 BALL, STEEL (#9) (9/32).
I edited this post to put an end to any argument on which style came with each trx. 1989 is the only year that had the needle bearing for the clutch actuator rod. Not only is the rod different for 1989, so is the pressure plate that comes in the 1989 kit from Honda. The bearing shown in the video is not from an 88 like I originally said. Check Wikipedia, it even mentions the change in 1989, it is source #3. . Also, the service manual clearly shows all differences from 1986-1989, it is in the CLUTCH section page 7-0. THAT IS FACT, THAT IS THE END OF THIS.
85-86 ATC/TRX used a single ball bearing under the clutch lifter. 87 TRX used 3 small ball bearings and are very rare to find in a machine as they failed right away and we replaced them with the 85-86 set up. 88-89 used the needle bearing clutch lifter and can be found using this part number 22351-HA2-000.
@@davemooreracing 88 and 89 are different. In the video that is a needle bearing from the 89 upgrade kit Sabo probably purchased when he did Neils (rip) mod. I have an 88, click on one of my videos for proof.
@@steve069 Which video?
@@davemooreracing What do you mean, the last 4 videos should be proof that I have an 88. I did the 89 upgrade swap a few summers ago so thats why its still fresh in my head. Im not arguing with you over engine building, I am just stating the fact that the needle bearing is 1989 only, no other year had that. Service manual page 7-0 proves it. (edited had the page number wrong)
@@steve069 Did you buy your 88 new in 88? i bought my 85 new in 85 brand new 86 brand new 87 brand new 88 and a brand new 89 all whale working as the parts manager for Salem Honda. I have no need to read any thing i lived it.
I hope you talk about about sprocket tooth count with tire size
Super helpful 👍
25:11
as he says i want people to see how i solve the problems with the clutch plates, mike edits out how he is using the screw driver to wigle the plates in lololol, as i type they show it lol, tewll me to shut my mowff
Love watching this kind of engine built bc you can learn so much
Daniel Castelow thank you for watching! 🤘
I'd like to see how he tested the stator.
He has a machine that he built where you can watch the timing curve and everything; it's actually really cool and ingenious
That 1 dislike is jst because he can’t build his engines😂
Actuality Im in the process of building a pretty custom motor for Justin. I know Him and Mike had a falling out but i met them both in person at the same time and took on Justin's project before everything happened. Nether one of them has asked me to pick a side nor have they talked badly about the other one to me so i treat them both the same way. I am a man of my word and unless you turn on me i am gonna build you something pretty amazing because for me its ALL about going fast brother.
Idk why everyone acts like red loctite is so bad tho. I only use red loctite and never had an issue getting a bolt out.
I've never had an issue either; maybe an older formula was like JB weld or something when it dried
That’s the ultimate knowledge base for this motor... I wish there was one for mine! Does Dave work with the 499cc Subaru motors too?
No he does not, pretty exclusive to 250r's
Easy peasy🤙💯
You hit the Jack POT. What a nice. MAN!
He truly is
I can't wait for project yz125, because I just finished my 1999 yz125 and I'm wondering how yours is going to turn out. My current project is a 1980 Yamaha IT 425 so i can't wait to get that thing done.
That 425 is probably a cool project man!
Thanks dave, I now know I'm missing the washer out the water pump. Probably the reason it's leaking. 👌👌
I have been using 2x4 blocks when assembling engines since I went to class. My next purchases I want to be able to get me a table lift and an engine stand. It will make the whole process easier for me, especially the older you get, the less bending over you have to do the easier it is on you. Great video!!!!!
I agree man, and especially for putting the engine at an angle
since when is it hard to install clutch plates? those stainless steel inserts seem janky AF though. who cares if you get grooves in the basket. that is easy to replace and only a couple hundred bucks. i dont like the thought of having extra parts in there that could potentially crack/break/come loose and cause havoc.
Oh man, this is a tried and true setup that's been used on many bikes for some time now and has just recently come to the 250Rs; call up Rekluse or ride a bike with one and see for yourself bro 🤘
Wow, the stuff I'm learning here is crazy. 😁👍👏
You and me both Shaun!
I don’t own a 250r, nor do I plan to in the near future, but these videos and the procedures practiced, will help me rebuild my YZ250 engine again immensely. Thanks for the amazing, informative content Mike and Dave!
No problem Gabe, we appreciate you watching
Someone put red lock tight on my kx80 clutch basket and I tryed every trick in the book to get it off and I never was able to get it off lol, I know he's knowledgeable just figured I would mention that
People over kill it all the time .
Wow such great content Mike, that was very interesting, I have a 350x so I'm gonna do some research on what recluse clutch parts I can use in my trike
Glad you liked it man! The 350x is a great machine!
Hey Mike I missed the reason why you're rebuilding your entire bottom end over again? I do like the step by step builds.
He was doing to to make it more reliable because the 310 kits normally don’t last that long
It was mostly to do with wanting to weld and true my crank; bottom end needs to come apart to get in there and Dave offered to do an entire build series with me so I wanted to take advantage of that!
@@MichaelSabo I watched all of the videos they are awesome, that thing really pulls now
Wow you guys make it all look so easy i love that clutch i need to do one on my 250r i just bought a 2014 trx450er and am trying to get it ready for gncc thanks for all the great vids bro you are the leader in the sport quad Revolution!!! Thanks again bud
Glad you're enjoying the series Lannie; the 450R clutch install should be pretty much the same for the Recluse stuff!
Awesome video, dont have nor have ever owned a 250r but I still watch all the videos on it.
I appreciate you watching bro!
🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿soke in the knowledge
You should look into a ds650 that’s be awesome
Keep an eye on the channel Stupid Fast, he just picked up a DS650 and I might be in some of those videos
want some gopro vids of this thing ripping
Amazing video! You can definitely tell he's done thousands of those 👍
Lsv Efhatch thank you for watching! 🤘
Outstanding video mike Dave is the 250r king 👍✌
He most definitely is; thank you for watching bro!
Clutch plate asmr
That shifter detent install was extremely helpful for me. Keep up the great work and great videos!!
Glad it helped, and thank you for watching!
Good video. Is there a link for his stand he sells?
In the description is listed Dave's email
My motor is one in the video I’m pretty sure
He says in the first video it’s his iwn
Its not urs 🤡
Done this a time or two or what?! Wow man awesome thank you so much!!
Joseph McCaw thank you for watching! 🤘
Great in depth video. Very helpful!
Glad you liked it Ray!
Following!!! Nice work!!!👍🏽
Thank you for watching my video and for following kenny johns!
What is his process of a break in on 4 stroke sport atv
I'm not sure
So sick man !
Thank you Logan Florida!
Dude makes me say hold my beer . He makes it looks so easy
Can't wait for part 3
Gregory Delozier thank you for watching! 🤘
@@MichaelSabo I've watch them all lol your welcome very good content and knowledgeable info here thank you.
Noice again!!!
he makes it look to easy
Great info on making this easier.
Its so cool you taped all this Mike,this way we can keep Dave's wizardry for all times
Dave's wizardry shall live on my friend