Completing This Badass 2 Stroke Engine | Project 250R Part 30
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- Completing This Badass 2 Stroke Engine | Project 250R Part 30
In this video...
How to install an ESR Top end on a Honda 250R
How to install an HPI Ignition
How to time an HPI Ignitiion
Tools and Supplies in This Video...
ESR Top end and TRX5 expansion chamber can be found at www.eddie-sanders-racing.com
HPI Ignition - ledperformanceengines.com/product/hpi-ignition-kit
Flywheel Weight - ledperformanceengines.com/product/hpi-ignition-flywheel-weight
Dial Indicatior - ledperformanceengines.com/product/dial-indicator-for-setting-hpi-ignition-timing
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Klotz benol at 40:1 would really be a great thing for this build
Love it
Fuck yeah
Amsoil Dominator 50:1 Mike! Cleanest burning oil out there IMHO.
That's about where I plan to run it; using klotz R50 though.
Nah man, your videos aren't boring. I love how you explain everything with so much detail. this is what I came for.. flipping Maverick's and kids stuck in mud is a bonus!
It’s so hard to wait for the video after you see there instagram post am I right 😂
Haha, thank you my bro!
No these videos are sick. don't worry about making them fun. idk about others but i just like learning and seeing how its done
This build makes me want to hop on a 250r !!! Never ridden one before
Sweet build cant wait to hear it run love my 85 250r atc long live two stoke
waHOOO !! cant wait to see it in the frame . oh and yeah i do love chrome BUT that raw pipe from LED would look so sic on this build
@Three Jacks yes but i look at it like my old colt 45 revolver .a little rust gives it the patina look . my next one will have the LED raw on it
@@867diesel i love oiling the blue of the ww1 colt and 92w250 fummins 86 trx250 86 02 500af 91cr500 anyway id say the exact same comment braap
It’s easy to tell how passionate you are about this build
Thank you Send-It Offroad!
Wow an that’s the nicest looking 2 stroke I’ve seen great job
Thank you bro! 🤘
Really happy you are going into such detail, I have been on the fence with the esr kit for my 86..feeling more comfortable with the idea now..thanks for the great content! Much appreciated!
No problem man, thank you for watching!
Super clean build, can't wait to hear it rip
Thank you bro! 🤘
That’s me. I’m the guy with the rattling kickstart
😂
You want the wrist pin circlip gap at either 12 or 6 o'clock.
This guy is a perfectionist, and gives me inspiration to make a better living for myself and I love to watch him, I can do everything probably even more just don't have the money or time from working so much lol but rock on brother, but if i had your money I would went with a lectron carb would make this build even better. Js
Thank you for the love bro! I worked with ESR on this build and went with the 38mm shorty based on his recommendation; I may try a lectron in the future; a lot of people seem to be pushing me that way.
Dont worry man love these videos cant wait for the last video to see the final product keep up the good work
Thank you for the feedback C Jordan, I appreciated you watching my video!
This build is coming together nicely. One day I'll own a trx 250r.
I'm gonna Pack a Punch my R🤤🤣👍🏻
@@250rtrxjunkie good😂 give her hell
Pack A Punch You only live once....best purchase of my life.
Not boring to me, I’m drooling!!! 🤤 I am ready to hear this beast run though!
Thank you for the feedback man!
For that esr pipe badge, you can drill out those rivets, drill new holes to where the badge is suppose to go then pop new rivets and also plugged the other holes with new revits as well👍
I thought about this but I'm afraid the nickel under the tag might be messed up or something; I can just see it going horribly wrong 😂
You could use some of that never dull and buff it out lmao but yea I was nervous too and it worked out all fine on my project👍😂
Man it looks so good👍 i have a dirt drag video coming soon with some sick banshees youll like😜👍
Thank you bro! 🤘 Sounds badass!
Man when you banged on that crank it freaked me out a little
Man Michael that engine rocks 🤟🤟🤟✌
Thank you bro! You rock for watching 🤘
Looks awesome cant wait to hear that thing rip
Thank you bro! 🤘
Dude this is awesome!!! You rock man
You rock for watching bro!
You should put the cir clip openings at a 6 or 12 o clock position. Theyre known to pop out due to pressure when they are sideways. Build looks absolutely killer
You really should change out that ignition to a 00-01 cr250 ignition and also run a 01 cr125/250 carb. Have rob selvy port the carb appropriately to the carb you choose (I’d go the cr125 carb with that smaller sized engine). You won’t regret the throttle response difference using the bike carb and ignition. If you choose the cr250 carb you probably won’t need port sizing done to match the displacement. Normal carb bore should be sufficient. It was one of the best upgrades I’ve done to all my Trx250r’s!
In the spot where you couldn't get a socket on to use a torque wrench, use a crows foot instead so you can then attach the torque wrench.
Outstanding work bro keep it up.
Thank you William Douglas!
If You lived on the west coast I’d say let’s get together and shred. Unlucky for me that’s not the case.
Love it! That engine tho 🤤🤤
Hell yea man! All thanks to you guys! 🤘
Prince of TRICK
Awesome Video! Very helpful to those that have never assembled a top end before! If you need to get your squish tighter.....you could just get another DOME....Did you call Eddie Sanders and ask what his recommended Squish is ? Maybe you're running the PUMP Gas dome ???? Are there any markings on the top where the spark plug threads in ? I know on ESR's other non-CEO domes they have numbers that relate to bore & dome style :)
Heck yea man thing is gonna be the baddest 250r yet people are gonna have some problems keepin up with that thing 💪🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Nice job.
Epic video man. This is getting so sick! 😬🤘
Thank you Pete 🤘🤘🤘
Build it, they will come💨💨💨💦
🤘🤘
Yesssss I’ve been waiting
hpi ignition $ 299.95 . fly wheel sold separate at 75 $ and you also have to buy a indicator at $125 . total of 500$ lol same as cr250 set up . BUT i like this LED set up better . i wonder if i can run this on a factory cylinder if it would help racing XC .
It is definitely better over stock. I think you can get a dial indicator for much less than 125, BUT, that's the one I used in this video so it's the one I recommend. Call Arlan at LED, he will tell you for sure if it's worth it.
@@MichaelSaboi am . after i get my 450r going im going to do nolink rear on the 250r and a 350 big bore with a stroker crank
That thing is sick. Are you going for all around decent power or you going for more top end. Or low end. That pipe looks like some decwnt top end power
Thank you man! This setup should have a pretty broad powerband; I was shooting for midrange
wow!!!
GET A TORQUE WRENCH ADAPTER for torquing the cylinder nuts. You might think you can feel what 35ft lbs feels like, but you cant. and being you are using a spacer with 2 gaskets, it is even more important for you to torque the nuts properly. It's literally $12 for the adapter. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, I love your vids, but I cannot comprehend pumping all that money into the bike, and not spending 12 extra dollars to properly torque what could be the most important nut, or nuts on the whole quad. Build it to last.
You're not being a dick bro; I learn a lot from people such as yourself from the comments; I actually do have an adapter but it didn't not fit in this particular case. Regardless, I think you're right; I should find an adapter that allows for accurate torque.
Nice
Thanks bro, pipe is sick!!! Just gave me morale to go work on my POS!!
Lmao, I'm sure it's not a POS bro 🤘
Lol he counts out the 0.9mm on the dial gauge, I found that funny.
Metric is really not that complicated :)
LMAO no time for bullsh*t right to the build. Seriously man that is sic! The detailed instructions are a huge help. I've built all my bikes thanks to people like you posting vids like this. Can't wait to hear that pipe ring and ting.
Hell yea man! Thank you for watching; I'm glad my videos can help!
Mike great build and another great video. but brother the money and time you got into this motor you need to put and air box on it. we all know you wont be running this just on a track. this thing is going to get wet and muddy somewhere. RUN AN AIRBOX
Thank you as always brother! I kept the airbox just in case. For the initial runs, I am going to run it with this setup; it's the way ESR wanted me to run the CEO so I want to at least try it out. I did oil the filter at least but I know it's not the safest option.
This is why I fucking love this dude no intro bullshit and gets to the point
Haha, thank you bro!
Michael Sabo ayeee thanks for the reply
Should have did wiseco for your crank hot rods 🤢🤮
Can’t wait to hear what you think about the 310 vs. the banshee! Looking bad ass! You are inspiring be to re build my 250r motor 😎
Thank you bro; I'm glad I could inspire you!
when you install the circlips the Gap needs to point either up towards the Piston or down towards the skirt shouldn't be left of the sidereason being is that the clip is easily compressed that way and could allow it to snap out and do a transfer port. I've seen it happen before I've been in the power sports industry 30 + years
Thank you for the info man; I am hearing the same thing from a few other people too; I will be installing with the opening at 12 or 6 from now on.
This build is absolutely perfect ur videos r great and full of tons of information keep up the good work looking forward to more!!!!
Thank you for the feedback andrew jackson, I appreciated you watching my video!
@@MichaelSabo I wouldn't miss any best TH-cam there is
I love the 250r I would love to have a motor stand like that for my 700. Do you know where I can get one?
Fugn nasty looking Mike! Hopefully your first hole shot isn't like your first drag race on the banshee! Sorry had to! 🤣
😂 is true, is true...
Not positive but I’d say you didn’t need to counter sink your case saver. Probably had the shifter mounted too high.
You might be right; regardless, it didn't hurt anything.
What about a leak down test on the motor I built three motors for my quad trx250r and all three times I burnt the Piston off because I didn't do a leak down test or so I'm being told
It's in the next video! Sorry to hear about your past motors burning up.
The opening on the wrist pin clips should be straight up or straight down. They can come out and destroy your top end with the way you installed them. When the piston moves up and down it can actually compress the c clip enough to come out.
I learned this from some other comments; thank you for the info. Personally I've never experienced failure due to wrist pin orientation but I will do 12 or 6 from now on for safe measure. Thanks again!
gaps in piston clips MUST be straight up at 12 o clock or straight down at 6 o clock. so many freaking people dont do this and it drives me nuts.
Someone else said the same thing. I always just make sure the ring end isnt near the half moon cut out so the clip can easily be extracted. Do you know why 12, or 6 is important? I've never had a clip fail or give me problems come time to remove.
@@MichaelSabo its important because think of the momentum of the clip as it goes up and down with the piston - if the gap is at 3:00 or 9:00, when the piston comes to a dead stop at either TDC, or BDC and then instantly changes direction, the gap in the clip can be compressed, allowing it to pop out. if the gap is straight up or straight down, the clip cannot flex in the same manner, therefore cannot compress and come out. Think of how a hoola hoop would change shape if you threw it up in the air, and it landed on a concrete driveway. It would become oval in shape before it returns back to a circle.
@@mxthunder2 that makes perfect sense to me; I wonder if thats why companies like CP use extra thick clips just to cover when people don't follow this. I will go 12 or 6 from now on 🤘
I much prefer these assembly and disassembly videos.....these videos aren't boring and they show more important information than just slapping something together and riding
Thank you for the feedback tyler boudreau, I appreciated you watching my video!
@@MichaelSabo make videos you want to make.....dont make videos you think people want to see! I like your style and all the detail.... anyone who gets bored with that kind of info is the kind of people that don't work on things themselves.... dont be basic be the dude with the details!
Hey what double caliper are they using for the rear on the TRX250r
Why no ride video yet🙃this blows😭can't wait hear how she runs
That engine is a work of art, that R is gonna rip. Can't wait to see it complete. As usual great job. Love the customer engine stand.
Thank you Andy Burianek! The engine stand came from the guys at trx250r.org!
Man i need a 2stroke back in my life :)
I think it should be around .02 to .04 cause of the compression
Oh man... at least for me .02 is dangerously tight.
ha ha beat ya . i just finished my 250r build but you were posting videos of what i did the day before they were uploaded and i finally got it together and mines just a 269 and man am i excited for you man that thing is beautiful. cant wait to see that ceo cylinder scream, thinking of getting one myself but ill see how yours goes before and i also need to get fed up with running 110 in mine with a ridiculously large head. nothing against 110 but the price
Thank you bro; I'm actually picking up 110 today for the first start; its not terribly expensive here; just under 10 bucks a gallon.
@@MichaelSabo I am sooo jealous 64 bucks for 5 gallons
Motion pro has an torque wrench adapter for the cylinder head nuts you can’t get to 👍🏽
Just ordered one 😎 Thank you bro!
Wouldn't a crows foot adapter work also?
@@lonemillenial2707 I have those; they're too wide to fit in this spot.
I love the no-nonsense presentation of building the engine, however I need to point out one small mistake. It's a small one but it could wreck your day and none the less .
That's what you call a Banshee smoker
I used the spec bolt kit for my 250r motor and I’m actually disappointed I had to use a lot of stock bolts because half of them weren’t correct length or size that was there engine case kit
Really sorry to hear that man; I used the DBC Racing bolt kit on this build but that one bolt for the counter balancer holder was from Spec bolt and was the correct size. I'd contact them.
Michael Sabo yeah I had tried to order from DBC but they unfortunately don’t ship to Canada non the less it’s together I ordered the spec bolts top end kit which everything was perfect but the bottom end kit I received was off some bolt sizes for some reason but it’s together. But Man keep being awesome been following both on here and instagram since the banshee build cause I have one myself built mildly and ironically picked up a 250r a month or so after you did haha
@@jordanhelmer8845 hell yea man, im happy to hear it worked out. Thank you for following my channel for so long!
the videos are perfect.... Not to be rude, but i watch these videos to learn about 4 wheelers and see you repair/build them, not for your personality... Great video!
I appreciate the feedback bro! Thank you for watching.
@@MichaelSabo thanks for the great videos..... Cant wait to see what your next sxs project will be
I put an hpi on my back up motor which was built by allen knowles.. it's a CT350 and the hpi really woke that motor up .
Thank you for the feedback man; I know Allen knows his shit! I'm pretty confident in the HPI too 🤘
@@MichaelSabo I set my hpi up @2.9mm btdc , i put the weight on it also .... it could use a heavier weight but I'm not sure if it would make the flywheel move with a heavier weight since there is no keyway
Go all the way with a Lectron Carb
Just bought a YZ250f and it’s a mess but I also am buying a AMF Harley frame for it
Sounds like a good project 🤘
Michael Sabo Hell yeah I can’t wait to start chopping into this bit of history to make my dream bike. I’ll try to post a few pictures and videos on my channel if you want to see the progress
Beautiful build.... And very well presented!!!👏
Edit: Is that a cast iron cylinder sleeve??
Thank you man! And yes, the cylinder is sleeved.
I'm not sure if you showed it in another video, or forgot, but before putting the cylinder on, you should put a couple drops of oil down both the main bearing lubrication holes in the case and a couple drops in the rod/crank bearing slot. Also, I was told by my engine builders at Klemm Research to assemble the piston and cylinder dry or with just a shot of WD-40 on the cylinder walls. It helps in the quicker seating of the rings. You don't want to glaze the walls before seating the rings in. The build is looking awesome though bro. Can't wait to hear that baby fire. Oh, 1 more thing. I know on the 86 - 87 TRX 250's the stock pegs position is high and forward, compared to the 88 - 89. If you get nerfs with built in pegs or just aftermarket pegs that are set to the more optimum position (as close to the swingarm pivot as possible), you may have an issue with the shifter and rear brake pedal length. Something you may want to look into soon. Good luck and keep up the great work. Looking forward to the next vid bro.
Thank you for the info bro; definitely a good idea with oiling the crank, etc. I don't doubt what Klemm is saying; this is just the way I've always done my motors and they seem to hold up and run well; I'll have to research it some more! Yes, I had Factory 43 make me some nerf bars with pro pegs; I'm not sure if it alters the peg position though.
@@MichaelSabo Oh yeah, no worries bud. They just told me that's what I should do when I was on my way to Denver Mile High Stadium. I didn't really have a whole lot of time to break the motor in and seat the rings on the way there, so I had to start the quad, put it in high idle on the trailer, and then drive for a half hour, pull over and shut the quad off. Did that a couple times, stepping the throttle up a bit more each time. Got some funny looks on the way, because people could hear the quad revving on my trailer. lol. Turned out great though, because that's the MTGP ATV main event I won. I even started back in the 3rd row. Yeah, hopefully Factory 43 brought your pegs back and below the swingarm pivot. So much less abuse on your body when you're standing at the pivot.
@@F5Tornado44 thats awesome man; you must be a beast of a rider 🤘
@@MichaelSabo Haha, yeah, used to be. Unfortunately, I aged. ; )
Dude you’re right....the clicks on that kick return is extremely satisfying lol. Thing is looking FRESH!👌🏼
Love the ESR PIPE but the RAW finish is cool because you can use a torch and make it look like a scavini pipe. I can't tell you how much I love this build. Thanks BRO!
Hey bro, I can’t wait for you to do your first ride. Your banshee is a 1 trick pony ( fast in a strait line)
But the trx309r is light and nimble and plenty fast enough to make you happy on the track and trail.
I personally think they arethe best quad ever made. I love removing plastics in under two minutes for maintenance reasons
Hell yea man! I can't wait to finally experience it; I've been hearing things like this since I was like 12!
I can see how you would feel like this video is boring for viewers, but legit, this is the first full step by step disassembly and rebuild video of a 250r out there. I love your "stuggle" videos, but i will be referencing these build videos for as long as I can. Amazing work man! And congrats!
Dude this feedback means a lot; thank you!
Using the screwdriver on that wrist pin retaining clip hurts my eyes. nbd, but principle lol. great work and great vid! keep up the good work muh dood!
Great tool to get to those hard reach cylinder bolts that need to be torque 2 spec adjustable torque wrench adapter Part number 08.0380 from Partszilla.com I love the tool it’s nice to know everything is torque down to spec. Ps. good work on all your video
Thank you man! I need to get one of these tools for sure.
Ohhhh shhhhhiiittt! I just came in my pants 🥴 fucking sick dude cant wait to see the first ride on that thing I'm almost done with mine too shooting for next month just waiting on a couple more parts
Hahaha, thank you bro! Good luck on your build too!
You went .290 thousands of a inch, not 2.9mm when timing the engine Micheal. 2.9mm is .114 thousands of a inch. You may have missed spoken but heads up buddy..
That dial indicator is metric not inches.
Had to look again. Your correct Caa 311. All of mine are inches, scared me when I seen it the first time.
@@brandongraham2979 no worries buddy! They do look the same.
Gave me a stomach drop as I read this lol 😂 Yes, the dial indicator I use in this video is metric; each revolution is 1mm
hey mike. motion pro makes a wrench to go on your torque wrench to do the front cylinder nuts
Thank you bro! I just bought it and I am going to torque the front bolts!
@@MichaelSabo sweet. it comes with instructions on how to adjust the torque. also make sure you lock tight your stator bolts. and make sure that stator cover is sealed really good. any moisture will rust that flywheel up real good
3rd decimal place is thousandths. So 5 thousandths and 4and a half tenths. 😉
lmao, I'll just stick with "point zero five four inches"
@@MichaelSabo just say 5 and a half thousandths. Fourth decimal place is referred to as tenths of a thousandth.
Excellent job mike. Great job, taking your time in getting the right parts for your build. It's great watching your videos. Keep it up. Excellent work on editing your videos and knowledge on your builds. I can't wait to see more!
Thank you so much for watching Joe; I appreciate the compliments!
Can't wait to hear that beast bro! Someone tell me why the Fu$k this video has 6 thumbs down... Haters😑😑
Cant wait to see this beast running!
Great job man!
Thank you bro; we will have to go riding one day man; youre always posting racing videos; jealous!
Michael Sabo what state are you in?
Ya my race schedule is cut in half this year olny making 3-4 GNCC’s and all the NYOA races hoping to get out for just some fun rides this year as well and mayb meet up w some people!
@@ononewheel7 yea man for sure; im right outside Philly Pa; what about you?
Michael Sabo oh thats not bad at all in in RI! I may make one gncc in PA later in the season!
Bro the Wisco cranks are asshole the hotrod cranks I’ve no problems my lay wisco crank blew a hole in the bottom and top end and destroyed the transmission.
who is the old guy, in the video ?? aaaand nice build micheal 2 stroke power
Man your videos have saved my ass. Love em!!!!
But is the drive sprocket on backwards?
@14:38 - F**K (BEEP) lol
My dad has that same pipe on his 330 esr kit and it kept over heating he went with a led hand coned one and its killer !
AMAZING WORK!!!! Thanks mike for the Hard work. TRX 450R Next build.
Thank you bro! 🤘
Wow! Awestruck!
That's a pretty big pipe, Mike. Are you sure you're not compensating for something?
😂
I was watching this while building my top end and the clip flew in my eye right before he said that
Nice build! One thing I noticed was when you put the shifter on and had that 1 bolt in the way, preventing a full shift, the shifter looked like it was positioned to high on the shaft. I think the shifter needed to be rotated downward one spline and that would've solved the problem.
Did you check your transfer port/piston crown alignment?
«Let me just put some yamabond on there»😂
lmao; I love me yamabond
Meticulous builds are the best builds👍🏻 love your attention to detail and extra steps made to clean up any possible loose ends in the future
Thank you Seth Verzinski!
Wow that engine looks bad ass your hard work pays off keep the awesome videos coming 👌✌
Thank you dennis bagatin!
Nice looking engine damn this build is sick. Nothing better than starting a fresh engine