Or they just suck at engineering high end figures, cuz they basically put newbies in charge of sculpts and engineering. The old MP guard has been doing wonders with mainlines
Kinda funny that the G1 MPs are at a point where they're somehow more complicated than the Bayformers MPs, when the latter had more complex on-screen transformations.
That's because the movie MPs have input from Hasbro, whereas they don't with BW and G1 MPs. Takara, meanwhile, is stuck in a very Japanese mentality of how collector figures work in their native country, where they're pretty display pieces, which isn't a bad mentality, they just take it to the extreme. It's why Arcee is sculpted as she is, why the Trainbots are getting MPs over any classic Combiner (they don't care about Raiden himself, Japan just likes train model kits and toys), or why we don't see not-repainted Cons often (Japan is used to their toylines being almost solely figures of the heroes and their gear as roleplay items).
ehhhh, the difficulty in transforming bayformers designs is a totally different kind of difficulty than the difficulty of adapting the really cheaty G1 designs especially from the movie. they weren't even trying, a lot of characters just straight up shapeshift.
I believe in the first 3 movies, they really tried to make the transformations as realistic as possible, with no mass shifting parts (unlike evasion prime and 2018 bumblebee) and G1 is just morphing blocks and blobs. Love it, but accuracy for bayverse is much more plausible than accuracy for g1.
@@toybonniesfm Yeah that is one thing that's true in the first three Movies you can actually see the individual components of the toys in the In-between shots which makes them all very cool and surprisingly detailed. I think it's funny how the ones for the first three Movies at least while clearly made more realistic don't drastically shapeshift and pull parts out of their ass like in G1. That's why so many of the newer Masterpiece figures in particular have so many issues because a lot of those designs while classic, don't make any damn sense going from Animation to real life one to one.
The reason Arcee's proportions look so awkward is because this was designed to be remodeled into Nightbird. Not sure why they couldn't make the chest plate at least unique...
cause redesign would take them actual effort, and this is transformer, not expecting redeco, recolor or remold is like going to a public restroom and not expecting shit everywhere
And yet, despite the Masterpiece line being accurate to the G1 cartoon, the Masterpiece Nightbird is based on the Takara Legends version and not the actual cartoon. Which, the Takara Legends versions is already a repaint of Arcee anyway.
I think the reason the "Nicee" line gets a pass for overt sexiness is because they go all in. They're not ashamed at playing to a niche group. This Arcee however is awkward, trying to pass as the original G1 but also trying to attract the male gaze. As a result it's pulled in two directions, as opposed to the Nicee, who knew what they wanted and made a workable figurine _around_ that want.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Isn't faithfully cartoon accurate nor really as "sexy" as Nicee, so it just ends up looking like a fumbled mess of a design that tried to be two things that compromise each other.
arcee was born out of dirigencial "we need a pretty fembot in the cast to lure girly girls to our mostly macho alienr robot franchise" why do the designer keep fogetting that?
Fun fact: The guy who originally designed the T30 Deluxe Arcee had the toy looking more proportionate to the original cartoon than the final product. The reason why then the toy ended with such weird-looking wide hips? Because Takara got the guy who made Kiss Players finalize the design. Yeah...
This truly is one of the jokes that uses the overused framing of "This truly is one of the [INSERT ANYTHING HERE] of all time" of all time. It has a sentence and punctuation.
We did with Studio Series BB Arcee. But If it’s G1 cartoon Arcee never, the design is impossible to do that since she has zero kibble on her. The way to do it is to either go with the Earth car designs from the comics or give her kibble on her arms and legs.
The worst part about this? She doesn't even have the iconic grey gun she uses inside Unicron in the 1986 movie. The small, grey one included with this figure is too small to even be the one shown.
Hey Jobby, I didn’t comment it at the time but I watched this as my birthday and a hurricane happened and this gave me a bit of cheer to handle some 6 digit damage numbers. So thanks man
I think if they just filled her cheeks a bit, lift up the position of her chest and reduce the size of her neck guard then maybe it wouldn't have come off as uncanny. Also, it really needed that beaming smile expression that Azelia had. Would have given her a lot more charm. Overall, I wouldn't say it's bad. It's solid and has great articulation. But man, if it isn't disappointing. Especially for a Masterpiece line. And the underside for the Car Mode is uuuuuuuuuugly. I've seen third parties do better.
Just wanna say that seeing you grow and I've been here since the awkward video and a enthusiastic person reviewing a toy to a brutally honest toy review, I just wanna that congratulations to where you at now much love brother keep up
@@joynigam4151 It's just an old video featuring a robot with a woman face, singing a disturbing song. If you don't want to have nightmares, don't watch it. But if you want to be a little scared, answer this comment an d I will give you the video's name.
Really wish a company would attempt a high quality transformers prime arcee. I feel like with some proper thought put into it a motorcycle could potentially work really well as a transforming figure as you don't need to worry too much about figuring out where all that extra mass needs to go. I also just really like prime arcee
4:04 MP Sideswipe is pretty hard to find at a reasonable price now actually. If you're interested in a third party equivalent of him, I'd recommend seeking out BadCube OTS-14 Warrior Steamroll. it's pretty much 1:1 with opening doors, headlights and hood. it even comes with his jetpack (yes, the one people may misattribute as prime's lol)
oh weird I think TH-cam ate my previous comment but my main search spots were The Jeff Bezos Site and the Bay of E. Was considering to look through 'alley express' but a friend told me to be wary of it's legitimacy
I think the best way to describe mp 51 is that it a shell former where the robot mode looks like you stopped like 5 steps before you where done. like when you show the robot mode I thought the neck would slide down but no. The only thing thats gonna make that thing stand on its own is are thoughts and prayers
6:58 thats honestly really good for a first attempt... I was expecting more like a stick figure with hair but that... That looks way better than what i could draw at fith grade
As much as I personally enjoy MP-51, This review was absolutely a blast to watch! I think the figure turned out the way it is because it was the same designer for the Thrilling Thirties Deluxe / Studio Series 86 Deluxe mould that designed this figure but heavily prioritising articulation over aesthetics
You know, I always wondered how it would look if they tried making a larger robot mode with the same small vehicle mode. A large backpack ususually is an indication of underutilized mass (or extra features that aren't required). Like a reverse-shellformer
The possibility looks really good it just sucks that the backpack is breaking her spine and 6:50 the second head is a very powerful and dangerous thing🤣
Great review! Thank you! Yeah, I'm sticking with my Generations Arcee. It's bad enough they've moved Masterpiece from being ultra-detailed realistic designs to slavish cartoon "accuracy," but doing it badly is inexcusable.
I was watching this video late at night, and then you cut to the "I feel fantastic" bot and it gave me a heart attack. Now I can't sleep, thanks Jobby.
I know it’d be physically impossible, but I really want to see figures of arcee, chromia, and elita-one from revenge of the fallen with the same black magic used for challenger
feel like im gonna hangout with a best friend when getting notification from jobby either its from community or video. just wanted you to know that, jobby pal.
Good review! Something felt different bout this one (besides the overt references to... y'know) that I can't quite out into writing, but hey, I enjoyed it
I started grimacing when all the excessive panel movement started, I finished when the backpack was shown to be 1/3 of the overall space the robot mode takes up. I can't help but feel the best people in the Masterpiece department at Takara left for the main line or Diaclone departments, considering the uptick in main line quality and number of recent Masterpiece's with engineering or design issues.
I just spent $99 on DX9 Gewalt and felt kind of unsure about it but after seeing such a smaller figure go for $149 I suddenly feel a lot better about it.
Hey, could you take a look at Newage's transformers line? I only seen Optimus (or David) transformation and blown away with the engineering that they can pull at the size.
I think Jobby's so done with this fig that he immediately started with size comparisons 😐 Well anyways, a great vid is a great vid, despite that descent into madness. 🤣🤣🤣
Hey there I’m not sure if you got this question already from a different account but that was probably from me because my old account got lost on my different electronic, but I am wondering I am working on an action figure of arcee and I’m wondering what ups from these figures I can maybe use while making it
The fact that the transformation happens so early, literally somewhere around 1:50 or so, feels like a bad sign about this figure.
Because it is a bad sign
He’s never done transforming figures in reverse order like this, except with the Digivolving Spirits line which felt intentionally backwards.
The fact that NewAge H48 Maschinenmensch Arcee Mini does OT so much better
me when it starts: "something's wrong... i can't feel it"
Yeah I wonder if it's because Jobby said it too.
Takara's biggest fear is a non-kibble backpack
Takara's worst nightmare
Fnaf x takara : non kibble backpack 😈
Or they just suck at engineering high end figures, cuz they basically put newbies in charge of sculpts and engineering. The old MP guard has been doing wonders with mainlines
@@angelriverasantana7755 It works out for us. We pay market prices for awesome figures that are a few hinges and swivels short of MP level greatness.
@@_V.Va_ *Looks at the recently announced Lio Convoy, Hot Shot and Tarn*
Kinda funny that the G1 MPs are at a point where they're somehow more complicated than the Bayformers MPs, when the latter had more complex on-screen transformations.
That's because the movie MPs have input from Hasbro, whereas they don't with BW and G1 MPs. Takara, meanwhile, is stuck in a very Japanese mentality of how collector figures work in their native country, where they're pretty display pieces, which isn't a bad mentality, they just take it to the extreme.
It's why Arcee is sculpted as she is, why the Trainbots are getting MPs over any classic Combiner (they don't care about Raiden himself, Japan just likes train model kits and toys), or why we don't see not-repainted Cons often (Japan is used to their toylines being almost solely figures of the heroes and their gear as roleplay items).
ehhhh, the difficulty in transforming bayformers designs is a totally different kind of difficulty than the difficulty of adapting the really cheaty G1 designs especially from the movie. they weren't even trying, a lot of characters just straight up shapeshift.
I believe in the first 3 movies, they really tried to make the transformations as realistic as possible, with no mass shifting parts (unlike evasion prime and 2018 bumblebee) and G1 is just morphing blocks and blobs. Love it, but accuracy for bayverse is much more plausible than accuracy for g1.
@@toybonniesfm Yeah that is one thing that's true in the first three Movies you can actually see the individual components of the toys in the In-between shots which makes them all very cool and surprisingly detailed. I think it's funny how the ones for the first three Movies at least while clearly made more realistic don't drastically shapeshift and pull parts out of their ass like in G1. That's why so many of the newer Masterpiece figures in particular have so many issues because a lot of those designs while classic, don't make any damn sense going from Animation to real life one to one.
@@Zeromaru42 Yeah, it’s pretty much why I love leader class rotf prime and all it’s… relatives?
The reason Arcee's proportions look so awkward is because this was designed to be remodeled into Nightbird. Not sure why they couldn't make the chest plate at least unique...
Speculation*
cause redesign would take them actual effort, and this is transformer, not expecting redeco, recolor or remold is like going to a public restroom and not expecting shit everywhere
I got both. the chest IS unique between the two molds.
Possibly a cost cutting measure
And yet, despite the Masterpiece line being accurate to the G1 cartoon, the Masterpiece Nightbird is based on the Takara Legends version and not the actual cartoon. Which, the Takara Legends versions is already a repaint of Arcee anyway.
I think the reason the "Nicee" line gets a pass for overt sexiness is because they go all in. They're not ashamed at playing to a niche group. This Arcee however is awkward, trying to pass as the original G1 but also trying to attract the male gaze. As a result it's pulled in two directions, as opposed to the Nicee, who knew what they wanted and made a workable figurine _around_ that want.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking.
Isn't faithfully cartoon accurate nor really as "sexy" as Nicee, so it just ends up looking like a fumbled mess of a design that tried to be two things that compromise each other.
arcee was born out of dirigencial "we need a pretty fembot in the cast to lure girly girls to our mostly macho alienr robot franchise"
why do the designer keep fogetting that?
"If you chase two rabbits, you'll lose both."
i find this one way sexier than the nicee figures honestly
@@fortnitesexman Looks like we now know who gets off to Junji Ito characters.
Getting Vietnam flashbacks here to the Masterpiece Bumblebee….
Which one?
Same
correction: any takara review
#BackpackLivesMatter
Insert fortunate sons here
The Junji Ito R34 joke really floored me, and yet it's not the most terrifying thing in the video, a testament to Jobby's power.
The what?
@@willow9490 google it you simp
takara must have a lot of employees who have issues given how much they like projecting baggage onto the products they make
Fun fact: The guy who originally designed the T30 Deluxe Arcee had the toy looking more proportionate to the original cartoon than the final product.
The reason why then the toy ended with such weird-looking wide hips? Because Takara got the guy who made Kiss Players finalize the design.
Yeah...
This truly is one of the transformers of all time. It has a transformation and articulation.
This truly is one of the jokes that uses the overused framing of "This truly is one of the [INSERT ANYTHING HERE] of all time" of all time. It has a sentence and punctuation.
hey! thats at least 2 more things than those small transformers movie toys!
You know something is wrong when jobby starts with the vehicle mode
Thank you for reminding me of "I feel fantastic" now I am terrified to leave my room at night again.
Goddammit Jobby
Same
And i live alone with my dog 😭
I wonder when we'll have an Arcee figure that actually transforms instead of looking like she's wearing the vehicle and then smash it into a backpack.
the chinese wizards always got our backs
Hopefully the earthspark one willl be good
I think the MMC one got pretty close tbh.
We did with Studio Series BB Arcee. But
If it’s G1 cartoon Arcee never, the design is impossible to do that since she has zero kibble on her. The way to do it is to either go with the Earth car designs from the comics or give her kibble on her arms and legs.
@@n-crab9196 just like you said the Chinese wizards got our back
Jobby and Arcee have some history
Unhealthy relationship, they keep breaking up and getting back together
@@rellko3900 more like Jobby kept getting abused time and time again with a vast array of methods and yet he keep coming back for more
7:00
The most disturbing part of your first drawing is her reversed right hand
Real brave to show your very first drawing. 10/10 would burn all my old art
After Jobby pointed out what the faces looked like, I can no longer unsee it.
What does it look like
Why is her pistol so small? Transformers The Movie Arcee was using a freaking Cybertronian Desert Eagle.
The fact that the transformation sequence for MP Arcee is an estimate 3 minutes and 45 seconds
You know this one's gonna suck
the first time jobby instilled fear into me because of the "I feel fantastic bit"
oh my god Takara really made a toy for Tara the Android. Even capturing her "I Feel Fantastic" face
The worst part about this? She doesn't even have the iconic grey gun she uses inside Unicron in the 1986 movie. The small, grey one included with this figure is too small to even be the one shown.
"The worst part about the Titanic was that the entrees clashed with the main meal and caused palette to be unready for the wine"
I feel like everytime jobby reviews a third party acree he would atleast reference the nicee figure atleast once
i'd say Nicee is a Figma style figure that happens to have a solid transformation
The sad reality is that Nicee is the best Arcee figure.
@@CoryTheRaven true but azlea captures the g1 astetic best
Can we at least appreciate that the MP-51 Arcee got a score and not the MP-45 Bumblebee?
I remember the good old days when Takara did do actual instruction booklets.
Mp figure review videos done by Jobby
Then: full of praises and delight
Now: *H E L L*
6:19 you had to go there and type that in 💀
Hey Jobby, I didn’t comment it at the time but I watched this as my birthday and a hurricane happened and this gave me a bit of cheer to handle some 6 digit damage numbers. So thanks man
I think if they just filled her cheeks a bit, lift up the position of her chest and reduce the size of her neck guard then maybe it wouldn't have come off as uncanny. Also, it really needed that beaming smile expression that Azelia had. Would have given her a lot more charm.
Overall, I wouldn't say it's bad. It's solid and has great articulation. But man, if it isn't disappointing. Especially for a Masterpiece line. And the underside for the Car Mode is uuuuuuuuuugly. I've seen third parties do better.
Who actually gives a fuck about the underside of the alt mode
3:14 it's okay, P K I think the full patreon name usage joke is hilarious
Just wanna say that seeing you grow and I've been here since the awkward video and a enthusiastic person reviewing a toy to a brutally honest toy review, I just wanna that congratulations to where you at now much love brother keep up
7:48 thanks you made MP Arcee worse for people who own her
I don't know what that reference meant. Can you please explain?
@@joynigam4151 Trust me on this you don't want to know
@@joynigam4151 It's just an old video featuring a robot with a woman face, singing a disturbing song. If you don't want to have nightmares, don't watch it. But if you want to be a little scared, answer this comment an d I will give you the video's name.
@@tristanribeiro7903 I've seen it before but I can't remember the title. Can I have the sauce, sir?
The video is called "Tara: I Feel Fantastic". but for your sanity, DONT WATCH IT
I never expected the Kingdom Arcee would be the superior design here but wow
C'mon Takara, even Gunpla got you all beat in terms of fold-out instructions and even booklets for their higher grades
Really wish a company would attempt a high quality transformers prime arcee. I feel like with some proper thought put into it a motorcycle could potentially work really well as a transforming figure as you don't need to worry too much about figuring out where all that extra mass needs to go. I also just really like prime arcee
4:04 MP Sideswipe is pretty hard to find at a reasonable price now actually. If you're interested in a third party equivalent of him, I'd recommend seeking out BadCube OTS-14 Warrior Steamroll. it's pretty much 1:1 with opening doors, headlights and hood. it even comes with his jetpack (yes, the one people may misattribute as prime's lol)
No it isn't
@@maskai3408 I've personally haven't gotten any good results but if there's anything I missed, I do apologize
@@RevWorkshop where did you look
other collector sites like TFSource I didn't have much luck either sadly
oh weird I think TH-cam ate my previous comment but my main search spots were The Jeff Bezos Site and the Bay of E. Was considering to look through 'alley express' but a friend told me to be wary of it's legitimacy
7:23 Ah yes, Dreamwave comics expressions
I think Takara's employees find backpacks badass, that explains why they are in the Masterpiece series
I think the best way to describe mp 51 is that it a shell former where the robot mode looks like you stopped like 5 steps before you where done. like when you show the robot mode I thought the neck would slide down but no. The only thing thats gonna make that thing stand on its own is are thoughts and prayers
Not even.
*Heaven and Hell couldn't bear its gaze...*
6:06 Damn! The poses look so good!!
Also forgot to add, how did you pose Mooka? I envy your posing skills
6:58 thats honestly really good for a first attempt...
I was expecting more like a stick figure with hair but that... That looks way better than what i could draw at fith grade
1:12 I miss when MP10 was relevant 😞
5:45-That goofy AHHH sound tho 💀
Strange that one of the best Arcee figures we've ever gotten turned out to be the Studio Series one, right?
was it due to the removable backpack?
@@koweedate No, the Bumblebee Studio Series figure.
It kinda is, they did such a great job with that figure.
Oh man, imagine Jobby reviewing that
@@brycebitetti1402 forgot it existed
3:13 the mad lad with the longest patreon name keep going never stop
What a great and nostalgia filled video. This was a nice escape from my pain-filled Covid experience. Cheers Jobby-man.
Masterpiece figures have been disappointing recently. 3rd party really is the way to go these days.
Honestly the mainline TF’s are even better than Takara’s MPs.
Unless it’s skids, because that one was amazing
Just isn't true.
I want FansToys to take another crack at Arcee. Their Soundwave came out so awesome. I know they can do it.
@AT Productions Exceptions that prove the rule, plus those are older by now. All the “recent” MP figures have been mediocre at best.
GOD DAMN JOBBY THAT WAS QUICK! Glad to see you're churning out videos. Benny would be proud.
Alternate Title:
Jobby's Early Holloween Special
As much as I personally enjoy MP-51, This review was absolutely a blast to watch! I think the figure turned out the way it is because it was the same designer for the Thrilling Thirties Deluxe / Studio Series 86 Deluxe mould that designed this figure but heavily prioritising articulation over aesthetics
6:12
The violations are unreal
the stop motion at the end was a nice surprise, been a while since I’ve seen it
You know, I always wondered how it would look if they tried making a larger robot mode with the same small vehicle mode. A large backpack ususually is an indication of underutilized mass (or extra features that aren't required). Like a reverse-shellformer
This is why I kept FT Rouge as my Arcee and bought the Nightbird Shadow that uses the Arcee mold cause it looks better as that surprisingly.
Holy hotdogs batman, I've been requesting this review for 7 months
4:38 THANK YOU!!!
7:45 what a hit of nostalgia, interesting what are you carrying for the halloween
12:34 Is that actually white noise, or did you use the sound from that sorting algorithm video and muffle it?
The possibility looks really good it just sucks that the backpack is breaking her spine and 6:50 the second head is a very powerful and dangerous thing🤣
Good to see you uploading today jobby.
Although the back kibble is atrocious...I like this figure's poseability. Pretty amazing sculpt.
12:56 Arcee jumpscare alert
Great review! Thank you! Yeah, I'm sticking with my Generations Arcee. It's bad enough they've moved Masterpiece from being ultra-detailed realistic designs to slavish cartoon "accuracy," but doing it badly is inexcusable.
I was watching this video late at night, and then you cut to the "I feel fantastic" bot and it gave me a heart attack. Now I can't sleep, thanks Jobby.
Wow this is the second video in such quick succession, Jobby is on a roll
I’m surprised it took him so long to get to this figure but also not surprised. I can see why he was putting this off.
I know it’d be physically impossible, but I really want to see figures of arcee, chromia, and elita-one from revenge of the fallen with the same black magic used for challenger
feel like im gonna hangout with a best friend when getting notification from jobby either its from community or video. just wanted you to know that, jobby pal.
Getting flashbacks to that doll that sings "i feel fantastic"....
it was our childhoods worst nightmare, and you cant deny it.
Me: paused at 5:59
Also me: "god please forgive me what I am about to do"
As someone who owns the kingdom delux Arcee I can confirm I don’t want any other arceee figure due to all others have much bigger backpacks.
I’m so sorry
To be fair Kingdom/Earthrise has the worst backpack, you just remove half of it.
yoo jobby you gonna review the sh figuarts venom when it comes out?
Been waiting for this review; thank you for your suffering to bring it to us.
4:09 could someone please what music is this, sounds so sweet
This review gonna be fun
Edit: 3:35 already fun
3:46 my god
#backlivesmatter
Im gonna love seeing your reaction to mp cliffjumper and ultra magnus
Good review! Something felt different bout this one (besides the overt references to... y'know) that I can't quite out into writing, but hey, I enjoyed it
I started grimacing when all the excessive panel movement started, I finished when the backpack was shown to be 1/3 of the overall space the robot mode takes up. I can't help but feel the best people in the Masterpiece department at Takara left for the main line or Diaclone departments, considering the uptick in main line quality and number of recent Masterpiece's with engineering or design issues.
10:14 now that's just an insult
to micheal jackson
Hey jobby would you reccomend this to someone (me) who just wants a decently sized and articulated arcee figure
If i can get ahold of it…
Thx jobby after years of rewatching your videos, Gundam included, I’ve finally started building kits and now my wallet hates me.
Anyone know the song’s name that plays at 3:58 ?
6:59 Jobby's ninja girl drawing doesn't look that bad, actually. Pretty good for 5th grade.
So that lifeless robot joke, what is that from? I know it’s pretty old but I’ve always wondered what it was.
Have you tried the Toyworld Leia? It could be an actually good figure!
9:48 She’s come undone.
She didn’t know what she was heading for.
And when I found what she was heading for.
It was too late.
Do ya ever feel like Arcee has Princess Leia hair?
The entire Transformers 86 movie was inspired by Star Wars.
Hot Rod is Luke and Springer is Han.
"Get a lift for Primus sake" has to be the best quote I've heard from Jobby
I really like that moment at 2:34. It's wholesome, in the most biblical sense.
7:35 Just like real women.
Does anyone remember what jobby this is at 6:43
If the fiture wasnt solid, would it be a predecessor of bold forms gladius?
I absolutely loved that bit with the Takara designer.
I just spent $99 on DX9 Gewalt and felt kind of unsure about it but after seeing such a smaller figure go for $149 I suddenly feel a lot better about it.
10:11 Wouldn't be the first figure you had to do the Michael Jackson with. Kiryu
you've been hit by
DUN DUN
you've been struck by
DUN DUN
a smooth criminal
Hey, could you take a look at Newage's transformers line? I only seen Optimus (or David) transformation and blown away with the engineering that they can pull at the size.
Hi Jobby.
After Spooktober it's NNN.
Prepare yourself brother.
I think Jobby's so done with this fig that he immediately started with size comparisons 😐
Well anyways, a great vid is a great vid, despite that descent into madness. 🤣🤣🤣
The new kibbleformers figure looks lit!
7:43 the thing that sums up how Netflix Arcee looks like onscreen
Hey there I’m not sure if you got this question already from a different account but that was probably from me because my old account got lost on my different electronic, but I am wondering I am working on an action figure of arcee and I’m wondering what ups from these figures I can maybe use while making it