With every other movie, you hear "it sure is a movie" as a negative thing, but for transformers, hearing that the movie "is a movie" is like the highest praise Also a moment of silence to the Terrorcon that got killed by Noah wielding Mirage's buttplug
@@orlandojosemoraamaya363 Idk about the Spain dub but in the Mexican/latin dub he does actually name drop Charlie, which was really cool that they added that in the dub
fair. but we've never seen him before in live action. and it's not like they're underusing him. they're literally calling it the unicron trilogy. ain't no way we don't get the decepticons by the end of it.
i actually really liked when the transformers said “it’s transforming time!” and transformed all over the place. Truly one of the transformers movies of time.
The movie was legit a hit in Peru because parts of it were shot there. It received tons of media coverage during its theatrical run and there was even an Optimus Primal statue added in a park in commemoration iirc. People there are almost always craving for the country to get any type of attention overseas so I'm not surprised.
Same here. I and most people I know think it’s a good movie and a wonderful addition to Transformers. The Maximals did get done dirty but considering they’ve been in almost nothing until recently; I was happy they got as much screen time as they did.
I've always preferred a positive outlook on movies, so it kinda saddened me that this wasn't as liked as I hoped. But I enjoy it, so I'll continue to enjoy it
I think the biggest problem with the movie is it expects you know everything going into the movie like who is Unicron, who are the maximals I think this should have been a part 3 with the maximals getting there own stand alone movie then have the Autobots and the maximals team up. I like this movie I really do but it came too soon also I think Primal and Prime should have fought Scourge together that bugged me so much
That's true. I love the movie too. It's great, but not a complete and total masterpiece
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Optimus felt like an idiot tbh and there wasn't any continuation with the whole cybertron backstory, iirc Arcee only mentioned that the war caused Optimus to act like that.
That ain't too wrong though. RandomBlackGamer also pointed out that Optimus has spend his time on Earth for 7 years and didn't bother learning what makes them worth fighting for. If Bee cares about the humans, why can't Optimus?
These beings live for THOUSANDS of years, it took Bumblebee a whole mindwipe essentially to see the true beauty in the humans. I think their selfishness in this movie(at least in the first part) makes realistic sense, especially seeing as it can be easily interpreted that humans DO NOT take kindly to extra terrestrials
what did you want them to do, I'm curious? the entire motivation behind Prime was to get back to cybertron because they'd been on Earth too long and the war was still ongoing without him.
As much as I really enjoyed this movie, I really wished it was more of a proper sequel to Bumblebee with it being smaller, scaled, and saving Unicorn for later and having actual Decepticons. Also, I missed the G1 inspired designs from the last movie.
Yes I heard there was a deleted scene where Optimus should've been searching for some kind of a ship to leave Earth, and encounter some Desepticone in process And that's exactly what I think could work for the movie, like 1) it would've been still bigger in scale compared to the Bumblebee, since we would see the whole team of the Autobots, and probably other Desepticons, but it wouldn't have been so over the top big 2) secondly it's just the decent motivation for the Autobots, like they never intended to stay on Earth, so any steps which to them leaving the Earth seem logical 3) and finally I think it could have the potential to explore their personalities more, explain to the viewers what's their home is and why do they want to go back to it But, sadly, we got another movie about saving the whole damn planet, once again, once again.....
@@magnesiumplatinum8434 the entirety of the original Bay trilogy looks way better. hell, I'd say even AOE looks better than ROTB. ...AOE does the whole "racist prime" arc better as well. it at least does more than have two scenes where other characters *explain* why Optimus is racist, and then he's suddenly not racist at the end.
It certainly felt as one of the weaker movies to me, especially after Bumblebee I had high expectations. Doesn't help that I learned that originally there were no Maximals planned to appear at all, but more Autobots we've seen in Bumblebee, then they got forced in Spider-Man 3 Venom style.
really? that doesn't sound right to me, considering that the teamwork between the autobots and the maximals is like, the thematic core of the movie. without the maximals you can't resolve the themes set up in the first act.
imo having more Autobots works much better for a 2nd movie, if they were instead of Maximals it would be just as much f an issue as with them if not bigger cause they would actually just kinda be there without anything mention worthy
@@emanuel6693 it was good, but 90% of it was unoriginal. so while it's the most well-written Transformers movie, I don't think it's as good as the first three Bay movies
The biggest difference between RotB and bumblebee was just the utter lack of vision. Cus looking at the deleted/alternate scenes it’s clear nobody was really sure which way to go with the story.
The fact that everyone says the cut content was needed to make the film better just proves it was a mistake to cut as much as they did. All I hope is that for the next film they don't mess up as bad as they did.
Agree, first Transformers and Dark of Moon are both still my favourite bayverse Transformers movies. Bumblebee did much than rise of beast but I still like rise of beast
I love the movie very much, but after seeing the concept art with all the other Autobots, I really would've loved to see that film rather than a Beasts film. Despite that tho, I really had a great time with the movie regardless.
“Massive step up from Mark Wahlberg” I never thought I’d hear Bolt say that after how he used to talk about how much he liked Cade Yeager and his actor
@weewoo695 Yeah I thought Cade was fine, it was the other human characters in AoE and TLK that were trash, like boyfriend dude in AoE and the little girl in TLK.
Unicron is the definition of a movie 4 villain, one who sets up future plot for the second trilogy. Like thanks to him, Galvatron comes in and restarts the war. Unicron is a boss fight and catalyst for the second half of transformers, and really doesn’t work as a movie 1 villain.
I also really don’t enjoy the overly violent Optimus in the movies and I’m a Superman fan. So when I heard Diamondbolt say “Now I get how Superman fans feel about Man of Steel.” I related so much I was teleported to Australia and had an insane bionicles collection.
At worst, I could have seen Optimus being indifferent to humans in a separate but equal kind of way (i.e. we mind our own business, they mind theirs). But it still works far better in most other iterations (including the Bay films) when he doesn't want to involve humans in the conflict for _their_ safety, simply because he's a caring and benevolent hero who values life in all its forms. Whereas in _Rise Of The Beasts_ he inexplicably sees humans as worthless and untrustworthy, which not only makes him really unlikable, but is especially weird when Bumblebee already has at least three human allies from his solo film proving evidence to the contrary. If anything, it almost kind of makes you wonder what exactly the Cybertronian War is being fought over in this continuity, given that this Optimus' initial view of inferior beings seems hardly any different from what Megatron's would usually be. For all its flaws, _Age Of Extinction_ did this arc better, because that Optimus *did* see the humans as his friends and allies once (and we saw this firsthand in the previous films) before they straight up betrayed him and massacred most of the Autobots. Instead of Prime just randomly not acting on his usual beliefs, his beliefs were actively tested and seemingly proven wrong, and he had to _lose_ his faith in humanity before he regained it.
Thank you, I thought I was the only one who thought that they did a better job of giving Optimus a character arc in AOE than ROTB. While I liked that Primal was inspired by the legend of Prime and that inspired Prime in concept, the fact that this movie started off having Prime being so dismissive towards humans made it really hard to sympathize or connect with him.
The arc in AoE is done well in comparison to what has come before it. I'll give it that. But Optimus starts off as somebody who's untrusting of humans, yet he still does what Optimus does. I see little to no consequence of him feeling betrayed by humans. Sure he says he's done defending Earth after they go and take the seed but we still see him defending humans and Earth throughout the movie. At the end of the movie he's back to being the Optimus we already know he is. In Rise of the Beasts, I personally felt like Optimus was mostly indifferent to humans and didn't want them involved with him wanting to get back home. Arcee mentions that the humans would hunt them down if humans would know of their existence (which is also something Optimus says in the Transit opening). Optimus has no reason to believe that humans are going to be allies with him. Despite all this, Mirage still convinces him to let Noah help them and even when they are in Peru, Optimus admits that Noah's plan of sneaking through the parade was actually a good idea. At the end of this movie, we get an Optimus who now sees the value in humans and sees that they are worth protecting, as Primal tells him. While I don't think the arc was perfect, I certainly do not believe it to be bad and I certainly don't believe it to be worse than Age of Extinction.
@@Samuel_LoeganI really don't understand what people find so wrong with AOE compared to the other bay movies. For transformers fans, I could see their issue being that basically all the iconic transformers characters are gone...buuut those characters were replaced by a crew that actually talk, have a personality, and do things in that movie. Other than that, AOE really focused the plot and got rid of all the stupid human side tangents in the previous 2-3 films, and was less annoying with its comedy. So in my opinion, AOE was the most consistently entertaining film, even if it may not be as iconic as the previous trilogy. And it was better than ROTB because despite it throwing more things in, it still felt like they had more of a handle on it than ROTB did
I think Stratosphere has the potential to be a really interesting character if handled right. Imagine an older Autobot who can't fight anymore, however he still wants to do his part for the cause, so he assists by transporting troops to one place or another. Yeah, it's not the deepest characterization or anything, but I'm sure a professional writer could explain it better then I can lol.
When the post-credit scene appeared and they went to some secret government warehouse I was like "I will forget all sins of this movie if there is a frozen Megatron", but no, just a bunch of meaningless tech shit😭
Nightbird (my favorite terrorcon off of design and voice) has echoes of a personality where it seems like she enjoys belittling “lower” life forms because well she views them as beneath her (when she steals the key at the museum or goes to fight Noah at the end) but like that’s it. She had like 4 or 5 total lines (could be wrong) and then she gets blown up soon as Bee returns and then her body parts land like a Lego figure (would’ve been cooler if just the sword landed in the dirt imo)
And Battletrap was like the coolest on design and maybe voice and then he gets killed by a prime and primal doubledown..so a moment of silence for Battletrap
Diamondbolt carried the movie sales in Australia let's be honest. Ngl Bumblebee raised the expectations for the live-action TF movies. I really love the intimacy of Bumblebee that TF live-action was missing for so long(if it had it at all) if it weren't for it I feel like people would've been more positive for RoTB. Too much was added for RoTB and the stakes went from stopping two decepticons to introducing literally robot satan. I just wish they fully committed to the reboot but hey RoTB is something good so hopefully they can like improve (I hope).
I love this movie very much, regardless of it's flaws it gave that 07 vibes from when I was a kid, and this movie will forever be a momentum to me because I took someone out for a date to see this movie, and she didn't question it, she enjoyed it as much as I did.
Yes, he loves his brother and he's from New York, this movie really wants you to know that, also that he loves he's brother and he's from New York loving his brother in New York
I feel like Lorenzo is more then a big reason why these films cannot commit to being the reboot they absolutely want to be. Despite Caple saying ROTB was a reboot and a sequel to Bumblebee, Lorenzo interrupted him and said it's still a prequel. I hate this man.
Watching this movie in australia was a fucking quest in of itself, i had booked my local cinema to see it on the international date. and then my fucking local cinema exploded, some fucking construction crew acidently caved in the roof and so now I had to go off to bum fuck nowhere to see this movie. And in the end, it was fine
Screenrant thinks it could help GI. Joe get successful if you merge it with Transformers. I think that the Transformers G.I. Joe crossover film will have to be a two parter and feel like a cinematic event
@@cartoonishidealism582 Morbius sweeps? Let's look at the live action Transformers film series and the live action G.I. Joe film series side to side G.I. Joe: the live action film series (2009-present) grossed $715M worldwide. I know it's not a billion Transformers: the live action film series (2007-present) grossed $5.2 billion worldwide. "Transformers" (2007) grossed $709,709,780 worldwide. "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" (2009) grossed $836,303,693 worldwide. "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" (2009) grossed $302,469,017 worldwide. "Transformers: Dark of the Moon" (2011) grossed $1,123,794,079 worldwide. "G.I. Joe: Retaliation" (2013) grossed $375,740,705 worldwide. "Transformers: Age of Extinction" (2014) grossed @1,104,054,072 worldwide. "Transformers: The Last Knight" (2017) grossed $605,425,157 worldwide. "Bumblebee" (2018) grossed $467,989,645 worldwide. "Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins" (2021) grossed $40,064,325 worldwide. "Transformers: Rise of the Beasts" (2023) grossed $438,966,392 worldwide.
I didn't really care for transformers as a kid (the movies) but I loved beast wars and the old transformer cartoon. When I saw from the trailers that this movie was just going to be another string of fight sequences that give nothing to the characters themselves and just flashing colors on a screen I immediately stopped caring. I would love for transformer fans to get more movies that actually show love for the property. When can we get as much appreciation as the transformer shows or like bumble bee. You were exactly right when these franchises just want to skip to the money making part instead of working on a good build up.
Just a quick message for Diamonbolt (not really related to the video) Diamondbolt, your videos fill me with a sense of joy i cannot describe, but i'm going to try anyway. every video you have put out has been a masterpiece, even the ones you yourself do not like. your comedy is fantastic and you deserve everything you could possibly desire. You are a genuinely divine human being and truly the best our race has to offer. I love you, we all love you, Diamondbolt.
I feel like if they want to improve the next movie then they should have Travis Knight direct. Also what you said about how there are too many characters. Maybe instead of movies they should do live action Tv shows so the story is better paced and that every character is fleshed out well
Not gonna lie, I kinda like ROTB because it brings some concepts back like the maximals and the Unicron heralds resembling Hook, Line and Sinker. I’m still waiting for a Optimus Primal movie where he suffers from PTSD after ROTB and maybe introduce Rattrap, Dinobot or Tigatron. (I’m still coping)
I think the movie definitely would benefit from a Directors Cut. With how much was cut from the overall film, and how the movie could’ve benefited with some of those deleted moments like the Transit scene introducing Optimus’ character arc, I think a Director’s Cut for the film in the future would definitely improve the film.
Can they just make Optimus Prime like a symbol of heroism and leadership again instead of a murderous psychopath ?😢 Like the fact Peter Cullen thought Optimus prime in these movies felt out of character says it all
no weight or scale, no interesting shots, and as you said, the fights just kind of... end. the action in ROTB is horrible lol. sure you can see more but it's not fun to look at.
I know most people think Bayverse OP is a psycho, but this one felt like way more of an deranged asshole to me. Bay's Prime was initially a lot closer to G1, but got more unhinged as horrific things happened throughout the movies and the PTSD got real. Even when humans were slaughtering the Autobots and allied with Lockdown though, he showed way more care towards them than ROTB Prime. Like wtf, he gets to Earth and is immediately racist??? Are we sure that's not Shattered Glass OP? Or Megatron in diguise?
I think a big problem with ROTB was the CGI Studio imploding, needing WetaFX to jump in and redo the entire Final Sequence and then add the beginning sequence. I wish ILM worked on it.
My favorite gag in any bolt video is speeding up a scene and adding dumb sound effects to make it funny then also just explain the plot of the film and call every character a dumbass
What a nostalgic feeling when seeing this title. I remember 15 Shocking TF deaths and "Characters summed up in one quote!" And I do agree with some things you said on the film. I saw it 6 times in the cinema, maximals were kinda just there. Now onto Prime, I enjoyed his arc but I do really wish they made him not super murder but it felt justified, since Bee died. Personally if they made him similar to how he was done in TF:P I think it'd be perfect.
YESSSS FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT OPTIMUS WAR CRIME RETURNING I walked out of the theater so disappointed because I had such high hopes for a more g1-esque optimus after BBM and it's so funny that everyone praises him saying "oh he's just brooding", brother, the same type of optimus tore the face off the killer of his mentors and master of the guy who killed him but somehow that's fucked up and the scorpion fatality is okay
Rise of the BEASTS. It's literally in the title and yet the Maximals felt too small a part in what was supposed to be THEIR movie. also BOOO no Rattrap.
Much as I enjoy all the BW love its been getting lately with the Kingdom and Legacy toy runs, I think they put themselves in a corner when it comes to integration because of how mega prevalent G1 is now. BW in the 90s benefitted from brand stagnation, but thats no longer the case.
."Trying a bit harder" ---quote of the day :D Btw ... about the cut content, thank you for that Diamondbolt. --> a "Bus-former" decepticon, assasin? If thats not awesome, i don't know what is.
The main thing I DESPISED about the film is..."IT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN ON GOD!" Seriously was embarrassed in front of my friends when that happened in the final battle in the theater...
Two of the problems i had with this movie is that for one they went back on the pretty much bland mcguffin plot line even though the bumblebee movie pretty much does show it can work well in other formulas and scenarios And second much like the last knight its just a force amalgamation of multiple scripts though at least this is actually watchable and you can make sense of it compared to tlk
Honestly the movie is pretty decent, I actually really liked Optimus Prime in this movie and it was nice to see an Autobot that wasn't just a land vehicle AND it was cool to see non-Decepticon villains too
I think they should start making like really good solo movies , like Bumblebee. Make more on him, make on prime , make on mirage , arcee , etc. Slowly build up their charecters , make people care for them...
I like when Airazor stated that the Terrorcons had dark energy which made them "All but invincible" And then in the final battle, Battletrap just kinda stood there and let himself die, and Nightbird exploded the second Bumblebee touched her. I watched this movie with my dad, who knows pretty much nothing but bare bones knowledge of Transformers, and his biggest take away was asking me afterward "Why is Optimus so mean and brutal?"
Awesome review, I've been a huge fan of your channel for a while. You always make me laugh and always speak my mind. Your amazing and i hope you continue to do great things. Also, As a beast wars fan, i agree.
What do you mean, a step in the right direction? Bumblebee was 10 steps in the right direction, ROTB was walking 5 of those back. And yes, Unicron would have eaten itself, welcome to stable timeloop.
@@marvelousball I really wish you were right. But, you see, I entered the theater for ROTB hoping that, at the very least, it broke the Bayverse canon. And it failed to do even that. So yeah...
Me and my Dad went to see this movie a week later after it was released in theaters, and I thought it was ok. I personally had fun with it even if critics didn't like it that much.
You’re right, the deleted scenes would have made the story more cohesive. Especially showing at the start why Optimus behaved so differently in this movie.
They could've added on to the story from Bumblebee (2018) and introduce Megatron in the sequel. Instead, we get freaking Terracons, the Maximals, and Unicron in a single movie without build-up or explanton. That doesn't give off any red flags?
Before watching ROTB my initial thought was that the Maximals had to travel back in time to save Optimus from being assassinated by a small group of predacons. The predacons manage to critically injure him to the point he's out of commission for damn near half the film leaving ratchet and wheeljack to keep his vitals up. This also causes a fuss between the bots and maximals Optimus primal tries to lead the autobots to stop the rest of the predacons from finishing the job but their bias for Optimus clouds their judgment. So the bots aand maximals have to work together in order for Optimus to survive
The best way to describe this movie is, it's a good transformers movie but it lacks the heart character connectivity and the lack of storytelling that the Michael Bay movies and bumblebee movie had.
With every other movie, you hear "it sure is a movie" as a negative thing, but for transformers, hearing that the movie "is a movie" is like the highest praise
Also a moment of silence to the Terrorcon that got killed by Noah wielding Mirage's buttplug
Not the buttplug
Butt… plug…?
Rest In Peace Freezer (or novakane) 😢
That freezer had no reason to get disrespected like that
Getting shot by a buttplug tho is crazy💀
7:22 Fun fact, in the spanish version of this movie Optimus doesn't give a vague name drop and actually mentions Charlie.
In the spain dub or mexican
@@orlandojosemoraamaya363 Idk about the Spain dub but in the Mexican/latin dub he does actually name drop Charlie, which was really cool that they added that in the dub
@ yeah, I just realized and also forgive me, I just didn’t know how to refer the Mexican Spanish dub aside from Spanish Latino
I still think that having Unicron in the *2nd* movie is a bit of a huge jump in stakes.
We went from 2 decepticon soldiers to *ROBOT SATAN*.
That's what I'm saying
fair. but we've never seen him before in live action. and it's not like they're underusing him. they're literally calling it the unicron trilogy. ain't no way we don't get the decepticons by the end of it.
Whiplash into dr doom type beat
It's too soon to bring unicron when they haven't even introduced the main villain yet. Megatron
it kinda feels like that they were gonna do a tlk crossover or something, it would make sense with alot of design choices
*Diamond bolt:* “WHERE THE F*CK IS MEGATRON!?”
*Meanwhile at cybertron’s outhouse*
Still on Cybertron or frozen.
@@cybersoldierforeverTravis knight confirmed he was frozen in ice
@@NBE-02Yeah but they need to retcon that I feel, Megatron deserves to be rebooted for the Knightverse!
Megatron: Oh man that was a doozy. Alright what did I miss?
@@matthewreynoso6904Knightverse is corny
"Noah is a guy who has a brother who's eleven but he's sick because he has hands"
Absolute classic
To be honest, I really liked when the beasts transformed and rose.
I like that Amazon prime was there
@@TheHoliestCow Also loved the product placement for Prime Hydration
i actually really liked when the transformers said “it’s transforming time!” and transformed all over the place. Truly one of the transformers movies of time.
I liked when Optimus said "I'm coming" and comed all over the place.
@coxaciel that joke was old and unfunny months ago
5:27 “There’s nothing we can do except this one thing we really should’ve already been doing” - Optimus Primal
The movie was legit a hit in Peru because parts of it were shot there. It received tons of media coverage during its theatrical run and there was even an Optimus Primal statue added in a park in commemoration iirc. People there are almost always craving for the country to get any type of attention overseas so I'm not surprised.
Oh yeah it’s made 14 million there one of the movies biggest markets
Also, optimus hit a car....IRL.... kinda
I’m not gonna say it was a masterpiece but I didn’t realize it was that divisive. I do agree that the Maximals were done kinda dirty.
Same here. I and most people I know think it’s a good movie and a wonderful addition to Transformers. The Maximals did get done dirty but considering they’ve been in almost nothing until recently; I was happy they got as much screen time as they did.
I've always preferred a positive outlook on movies, so it kinda saddened me that this wasn't as liked as I hoped. But I enjoy it, so I'll continue to enjoy it
Yes of course it's not a masterpiece, in any capacity. This movie is pretty bland and boring.
@@M_k-zi3tn To each their own
@M_k-zi3tn compared to what we had before? Ill take this over any other of the bayformers.
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“In this movie besides Optimus and Bumblebee, there’s Mirage, *Pablo,* and Arcee.”
fucking legend
@@elementalt4nickI don't get it
@@rupert6251he is saying how that character doesn’t deserve the wheeljack name
@@rupert6251 I found it funny
So I called the commenter a legend
@@rupert6251 It's a real dumb joke from Reddit.
I think the biggest problem with the movie is it expects you know everything going into the movie like who is Unicron, who are the maximals I think this should have been a part 3 with the maximals getting there own stand alone movie then have the Autobots and the maximals team up. I like this movie I really do but it came too soon also I think Primal and Prime should have fought Scourge together that bugged me so much
That's true. I love the movie too. It's great, but not a complete and total masterpiece
Optimus felt like an idiot tbh and there wasn't any continuation with the whole cybertron backstory, iirc Arcee only mentioned that the war caused Optimus to act like that.
That ain't too wrong though. RandomBlackGamer also pointed out that Optimus has spend his time on Earth for 7 years and didn't bother learning what makes them worth fighting for. If Bee cares about the humans, why can't Optimus?
These beings live for THOUSANDS of years, it took Bumblebee a whole mindwipe essentially to see the true beauty in the humans. I think their selfishness in this movie(at least in the first part) makes realistic sense, especially seeing as it can be easily interpreted that humans DO NOT take kindly to extra terrestrials
what did you want them to do, I'm curious?
the entire motivation behind Prime was to get back to cybertron because they'd been on Earth too long and the war was still ongoing without him.
"Did they die on impact?" One of them was probably Cliffjumper...
Poor cliff :(
Cliff already died earlier in the movie
Dropkick killed cliff on one of Saturn's moons
@@reserven5795 he simply died again
that's crazy that he died the second time
My favourite part of the movie is when the beasts said, "It's time to rise," and proceeded to rise 20,000 metres into the atmosphere
Same, it really felt like the movie was rising inside me
As much as I really enjoyed this movie, I really wished it was more of a proper sequel to Bumblebee with it being smaller, scaled, and saving Unicorn for later and having actual Decepticons. Also, I missed the G1 inspired designs from the last movie.
That’s exactly my opinion on this movie!
I agree , unicron should be the Galactus level event rather than the forgettable middle villain , I still enjoy watching this movie regardless
Yes
I heard there was a deleted scene where Optimus should've been searching for some kind of a ship to leave Earth, and encounter some Desepticone in process
And that's exactly what I think could work for the movie, like 1) it would've been still bigger in scale compared to the Bumblebee, since we would see the whole team of the Autobots, and probably other Desepticons, but it wouldn't have been so over the top big 2) secondly it's just the decent motivation for the Autobots, like they never intended to stay on Earth, so any steps which to them leaving the Earth seem logical 3) and finally I think it could have the potential to explore their personalities more, explain to the viewers what's their home is and why do they want to go back to it
But, sadly, we got another movie about saving the whole damn planet, once again, once again.....
Looking at the CGI it looks way better than Marvel CGI in recent times
and it's still a gross looking movie! I miss good CGI
@@1FenFen1 Me too and I miss practical effects
@@1FenFen1 Yeah the cgi from 2007 transformers was way better
@@magnesiumplatinum8434 the entirety of the original Bay trilogy looks way better. hell, I'd say even AOE looks better than ROTB.
...AOE does the whole "racist prime" arc better as well. it at least does more than have two scenes where other characters *explain* why Optimus is racist, and then he's suddenly not racist at the end.
They look the same...
It certainly felt as one of the weaker movies to me, especially after Bumblebee I had high expectations.
Doesn't help that I learned that originally there were no Maximals planned to appear at all, but more Autobots we've seen in Bumblebee, then they got forced in Spider-Man 3 Venom style.
really? that doesn't sound right to me, considering that the teamwork between the autobots and the maximals is like, the thematic core of the movie. without the maximals you can't resolve the themes set up in the first act.
@@aarcade6676 you can replace the Maximals with anyone, or just remove them entirely and the movie would not change at all lol
imo having more Autobots works much better for a 2nd movie, if they were instead of Maximals it would be just as much f an issue as with them if not bigger cause they would actually just kinda be there without anything mention worthy
can we stop pretending bumblebee is a good movie. it was boring af
@@emanuel6693 it was good, but 90% of it was unoriginal. so while it's the most well-written Transformers movie, I don't think it's as good as the first three Bay movies
The biggest difference between RotB and bumblebee was just the utter lack of vision. Cus looking at the deleted/alternate scenes it’s clear nobody was really sure which way to go with the story.
The fact that everyone says the cut content was needed to make the film better just proves it was a mistake to cut as much as they did. All I hope is that for the next film they don't mess up as bad as they did.
Agree, first Transformers and Dark of Moon are both still my favourite bayverse Transformers movies. Bumblebee did much than rise of beast but I still like rise of beast
I love the movie very much, but after seeing the concept art with all the other Autobots, I really would've loved to see that film rather than a Beasts film. Despite that tho, I really had a great time with the movie regardless.
“Massive step up from Mark Wahlberg” I never thought I’d hear Bolt say that after how he used to talk about how much he liked Cade Yeager and his actor
His taste has improved over the years
I never understood why people hated cade at all. He was pretty cool if you ask me
@weewoo695 Yeah I thought Cade was fine, it was the other human characters in AoE and TLK that were trash, like boyfriend dude in AoE and the little girl in TLK.
Unicron is the definition of a movie 4 villain, one who sets up future plot for the second trilogy. Like thanks to him, Galvatron comes in and restarts the war. Unicron is a boss fight and catalyst for the second half of transformers, and really doesn’t work as a movie 1 villain.
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I like how the Transit scene "was too Much" but was fine with Optimus doing a Mortal Kombat Fatality on Scourge💀
I guess is apparently because prime dragged transits body into a lake (which I'd like to see)
I also really don’t enjoy the overly violent Optimus in the movies and I’m a Superman fan. So when I heard Diamondbolt say “Now I get how Superman fans feel about Man of Steel.” I related so much I was teleported to Australia and had an insane bionicles collection.
It's always a sunny day when Diamondbolt reviews Transformers media again!
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Felt like I was in 2017 for a second.
At worst, I could have seen Optimus being indifferent to humans in a separate but equal kind of way (i.e. we mind our own business, they mind theirs). But it still works far better in most other iterations (including the Bay films) when he doesn't want to involve humans in the conflict for _their_ safety, simply because he's a caring and benevolent hero who values life in all its forms.
Whereas in _Rise Of The Beasts_ he inexplicably sees humans as worthless and untrustworthy, which not only makes him really unlikable, but is especially weird when Bumblebee already has at least three human allies from his solo film proving evidence to the contrary. If anything, it almost kind of makes you wonder what exactly the Cybertronian War is being fought over in this continuity, given that this Optimus' initial view of inferior beings seems hardly any different from what Megatron's would usually be.
For all its flaws, _Age Of Extinction_ did this arc better, because that Optimus *did* see the humans as his friends and allies once (and we saw this firsthand in the previous films) before they straight up betrayed him and massacred most of the Autobots. Instead of Prime just randomly not acting on his usual beliefs, his beliefs were actively tested and seemingly proven wrong, and he had to _lose_ his faith in humanity before he regained it.
Thank you, I thought I was the only one who thought that they did a better job of giving Optimus a character arc in AOE than ROTB. While I liked that Primal was inspired by the legend of Prime and that inspired Prime in concept, the fact that this movie started off having Prime being so dismissive towards humans made it really hard to sympathize or connect with him.
AOE? Really?
apparently the movie goes from the idea that the humans ignored what happened at the end of Bumblebee and still consider the autobots enemies
The arc in AoE is done well in comparison to what has come before it. I'll give it that. But Optimus starts off as somebody who's untrusting of humans, yet he still does what Optimus does. I see little to no consequence of him feeling betrayed by humans. Sure he says he's done defending Earth after they go and take the seed but we still see him defending humans and Earth throughout the movie. At the end of the movie he's back to being the Optimus we already know he is.
In Rise of the Beasts, I personally felt like Optimus was mostly indifferent to humans and didn't want them involved with him wanting to get back home. Arcee mentions that the humans would hunt them down if humans would know of their existence (which is also something Optimus says in the Transit opening). Optimus has no reason to believe that humans are going to be allies with him. Despite all this, Mirage still convinces him to let Noah help them and even when they are in Peru, Optimus admits that Noah's plan of sneaking through the parade was actually a good idea. At the end of this movie, we get an Optimus who now sees the value in humans and sees that they are worth protecting, as Primal tells him. While I don't think the arc was perfect, I certainly do not believe it to be bad and I certainly don't believe it to be worse than Age of Extinction.
@@Samuel_LoeganI really don't understand what people find so wrong with AOE compared to the other bay movies. For transformers fans, I could see their issue being that basically all the iconic transformers characters are gone...buuut those characters were replaced by a crew that actually talk, have a personality, and do things in that movie. Other than that, AOE really focused the plot and got rid of all the stupid human side tangents in the previous 2-3 films, and was less annoying with its comedy. So in my opinion, AOE was the most consistently entertaining film, even if it may not be as iconic as the previous trilogy. And it was better than ROTB because despite it throwing more things in, it still felt like they had more of a handle on it than ROTB did
I think Stratosphere has the potential to be a really interesting character if handled right.
Imagine an older Autobot who can't fight anymore, however he still wants to do his part for the cause, so he assists by transporting troops to one place or another.
Yeah, it's not the deepest characterization or anything, but I'm sure a professional writer could explain it better then I can lol.
When the post-credit scene appeared and they went to some secret government warehouse I was like "I will forget all sins of this movie if there is a frozen Megatron", but no, just a bunch of meaningless tech shit😭
I thought they were gonna reveal Sector Seven 😩
@@glazuki7289why would the reveal sector seven when they were in Bumblebee?
Nightbird (my favorite terrorcon off of design and voice) has echoes of a personality where it seems like she enjoys belittling “lower” life forms because well she views them as beneath her (when she steals the key at the museum or goes to fight Noah at the end) but like that’s it. She had like 4 or 5 total lines (could be wrong) and then she gets blown up soon as Bee returns and then her body parts land like a Lego figure (would’ve been cooler if just the sword landed in the dirt imo)
And Battletrap was like the coolest on design and maybe voice and then he gets killed by a prime and primal doubledown..so a moment of silence for Battletrap
Diamondbolt carried the movie sales in Australia let's be honest.
Ngl Bumblebee raised the expectations for the live-action TF movies. I really love the intimacy of Bumblebee that TF live-action was missing for so long(if it had it at all) if it weren't for it I feel like people would've been more positive for RoTB. Too much was added for RoTB and the stakes went from stopping two decepticons to introducing literally robot satan. I just wish they fully committed to the reboot but hey RoTB is something good so hopefully they can like improve (I hope).
I love this movie very much, regardless of it's flaws it gave that 07 vibes from when I was a kid, and this movie will forever be a momentum to me because I took someone out for a date to see this movie, and she didn't question it, she enjoyed it as much as I did.
Seeing a normal fight scene get cut for being too scary is pretty funny considering they added Optimus beheading someone with no hesitation
They should’ve put more time with the greatest autobot of all time: Stratosphere
26:09 somewhat aged like milk
One of the few times we're happy that it did.
But Transformers One didn't make any money. He was completely right.
Noah Diaz is one of my favorite characters. He’s just so genuine, man, and he cares about his brother a damn lot.
Yes, he loves his brother and he's from New York, this movie really wants you to know that, also that he loves he's brother and he's from New York loving his brother in New York
@@cahe6161hahaha
He's better than Ugly Charlie who has a sexual relationship with Bumblebee.
He’s got nothing on Sam
I feel like Lorenzo is more then a big reason why these films cannot commit to being the reboot they absolutely want to be. Despite Caple saying ROTB was a reboot and a sequel to Bumblebee, Lorenzo interrupted him and said it's still a prequel. I hate this man.
I wish optimus take off Lorenzo's head instead
Nah Lorenzo is right pairing the films to the 07 film is the best course
@@zacharymessner6157 bait used to be believable
@@SuperDababy2 what do you mean?
@@zacharymessner6157he means that your comment is bait used to start an argument but its not believable
In the Spanish version of the movie, Optimus Prime name drops Charlie
I've made this comparison since I saw it in theaters, going straight from Bumblebee to rotb is like going from Iron Man to the Avengers
Adam calling Scorpunok and the drones Bionicles is the most accurate thing he said in this video
Watching this movie in australia was a fucking quest in of itself, i had booked my local cinema to see it on the international date.
and then my fucking local cinema exploded, some fucking construction crew acidently caved in the roof and so now I had to go off to bum fuck nowhere to see this movie.
And in the end, it was fine
This is the closest thing we’re gonna get to a Bumblebee movie review, and ill take it
GI Joe showing up at the end probably has to be the dumbest post credit scene I’ve seen in a long time
I would honestly say it's the best dumbest one though
Screenrant thinks it could help GI. Joe get successful if you merge it with Transformers. I think that the Transformers G.I. Joe crossover film will have to be a two parter and feel like a cinematic event
Morbius sweeps
@@cartoonishidealism582 Morbius sweeps? Let's look at the live action Transformers film series and the live action G.I. Joe film series side to side
G.I. Joe: the live action film series (2009-present) grossed $715M worldwide. I know it's not a billion
Transformers: the live action film series (2007-present) grossed $5.2 billion worldwide.
"Transformers" (2007) grossed $709,709,780 worldwide.
"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" (2009) grossed $836,303,693 worldwide.
"G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" (2009) grossed $302,469,017 worldwide.
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" (2011) grossed $1,123,794,079 worldwide.
"G.I. Joe: Retaliation" (2013) grossed $375,740,705 worldwide.
"Transformers: Age of Extinction" (2014) grossed @1,104,054,072 worldwide.
"Transformers: The Last Knight" (2017) grossed $605,425,157 worldwide.
"Bumblebee" (2018) grossed $467,989,645 worldwide.
"Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins" (2021) grossed $40,064,325 worldwide.
"Transformers: Rise of the Beasts" (2023) grossed $438,966,392 worldwide.
@Julianjulesr1361 an Epilogue. The mid credit scene showed the return of Mirage
I didn't really care for transformers as a kid (the movies) but I loved beast wars and the old transformer cartoon. When I saw from the trailers that this movie was just going to be another string of fight sequences that give nothing to the characters themselves and just flashing colors on a screen I immediately stopped caring. I would love for transformer fans to get more movies that actually show love for the property. When can we get as much appreciation as the transformer shows or like bumble bee. You were exactly right when these franchises just want to skip to the money making part instead of working on a good build up.
Diamondbolt: Posts new transformers video
*MONKEY SEES ACTION*
I’m not a Transformers fan, but when I saw G.I Joe in the ending of the film, I was laughing hard. But I do think the movie is ok.
as a fan When i saw it i was like
This dudes edits are hilarious. Best 26 min of my whole day, just subbed haha.
I felt like instead of the G.I joe for the post credits,they could've teased the predacons meeting the decepticons
Just a quick message for Diamonbolt (not really related to the video)
Diamondbolt, your videos fill me with a sense of joy i cannot describe, but i'm going to try anyway. every video you have put out has been a masterpiece, even the ones you yourself do not like. your comedy is fantastic and you deserve everything you could possibly desire. You are a genuinely divine human being and truly the best our race has to offer.
I love you, we all love you, Diamondbolt.
I wish it was just Autobots vs Decepticons, with the Autobots learning about humanity
Bumblebee was very great, no hate against the director of Rise of the beasts but they should have gotten the Bumblebee director
The guy who directed bumblebee didn't want too make other one
@@ImHimtimus😢
I feel like if they want to improve the next movie then they should have Travis Knight direct.
Also what you said about how there are too many characters. Maybe instead of movies they should do live action Tv shows so the story is better paced and that every character is fleshed out well
They are actually doing that as far as Im aware so uh, good call!
@@lordtallon5610 Making a live action Tv show, or bringing Travis knight back
@@Gamer-Rex they’re doing a live action show as far as I remember
Still though Travis knight needs to return
I want a balance between Bumblebee and Micheal Bay films
Same
Not gonna lie, I kinda like
ROTB because it brings some concepts back like the maximals and the Unicron heralds resembling Hook, Line and Sinker. I’m still waiting for a Optimus Primal movie where he suffers from PTSD after ROTB and maybe introduce Rattrap, Dinobot or Tigatron. (I’m still coping)
Haven't even watched it yet and already know its good
I think the movie definitely would benefit from a Directors Cut. With how much was cut from the overall film, and how the movie could’ve benefited with some of those deleted moments like the Transit scene introducing Optimus’ character arc, I think a Director’s Cut for the film in the future would definitely improve the film.
Can they just make Optimus Prime like a symbol of heroism and leadership again instead of a murderous psychopath ?😢
Like the fact Peter Cullen thought Optimus prime in these movies felt out of character says it all
And he was right with transformers one not making money 😢
Problem I had with the action
Is that it was too short or ended quickly. It didn’t feel like there was a natural build up and pay off
no weight or scale, no interesting shots, and as you said, the fights just kind of... end. the action in ROTB is horrible lol. sure you can see more but it's not fun to look at.
@@1FenFen1 I think the fight in the Museum was pretty decent but after it as you said it pretty much became boring and repetitive
Bumblebee dying twice in the same continuity, consecutively and getting revived both times for both of his deaths
what the heck.
I know most people think Bayverse OP is a psycho, but this one felt like way more of an deranged asshole to me. Bay's Prime was initially a lot closer to G1, but got more unhinged as horrific things happened throughout the movies and the PTSD got real. Even when humans were slaughtering the Autobots and allied with Lockdown though, he showed way more care towards them than ROTB Prime. Like wtf, he gets to Earth and is immediately racist??? Are we sure that's not Shattered Glass OP? Or Megatron in diguise?
I think a big problem with ROTB was the CGI Studio imploding, needing WetaFX to jump in and redo the entire Final Sequence and then add the beginning sequence. I wish ILM worked on it.
"Now here's the thing" had me on the floor laughing. Loved this vid
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This movie jumping straight to Unicron has the same vibes as the DCEU wasting Doomsday on its second movie
My favorite gag in any bolt video is speeding up a scene and adding dumb sound effects to make it funny then also just explain the plot of the film and call every character a dumbass
damn that 11pm upload goes crazy
I can never be objective about this movie because it has one of the best arcee designs.
11:10 I'm 90% sure that arcee is supposed to be this movies eye candy
...........hmm😑93%
Them hips ain't lie tho 😂
@@Zimmy_1981 just the hips? Bayverse had megan fox
Beeverse has arcee
@@B1_1_9_7_5 as well as some other hot numbers some of the extras were fine 🥰
Arcee can get it
What a nostalgic feeling when seeing this title. I remember 15 Shocking TF deaths and "Characters summed up in one quote!" And I do agree with some things you said on the film. I saw it 6 times in the cinema, maximals were kinda just there. Now onto Prime, I enjoyed his arc but I do really wish they made him not super murder but it felt justified, since Bee died. Personally if they made him similar to how he was done in TF:P I think it'd be perfect.
Gotta love the Optimus prime Fortnite skin😂
I saw this in the cinema with my best friend
it was one of the best experiences I've had
we forgot to buy popcorn
YESSSS FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT OPTIMUS WAR CRIME RETURNING I walked out of the theater so disappointed because I had such high hopes for a more g1-esque optimus after BBM
and it's so funny that everyone praises him saying "oh he's just brooding", brother, the same type of optimus tore the face off the killer of his mentors and master of the guy who killed him but somehow that's fucked up and the scorpion fatality is okay
Damm, watching durin the first minute of upload, love your vids man
Rise of the BEASTS. It's literally in the title and yet the Maximals felt too small a part in what was supposed to be THEIR movie.
also BOOO no Rattrap.
15:43 he actually did speak he had a one line in the final battle : we will clear the way that, some people mistake it that primal said it
Much as I enjoy all the BW love its been getting lately with the Kingdom and Legacy toy runs, I think they put themselves in a corner when it comes to integration because of how mega prevalent G1 is now. BW in the 90s benefitted from brand stagnation, but thats no longer the case.
The movie was alright, would’ve been better is Pablo didn’t exist
."Trying a bit harder" ---quote of the day :D
Btw ... about the cut content, thank you for that Diamondbolt. --> a "Bus-former" decepticon, assasin? If thats not awesome, i don't know what is.
The main thing I DESPISED about the film is..."IT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN ON GOD!" Seriously was embarrassed in front of my friends when that happened in the final battle in the theater...
Two of the problems i had with this movie is that for one they went back on the pretty much bland mcguffin plot line even though the bumblebee movie pretty much does show it can work well in other formulas and scenarios
And second much like the last knight its just a force amalgamation of multiple scripts though at least this is actually watchable and you can make sense of it compared to tlk
Honestly the movie is pretty decent, I actually really liked Optimus Prime in this movie and it was nice to see an Autobot that wasn't just a land vehicle AND it was cool to see non-Decepticon villains too
Thought it was fairly enjoyable when I initially saw it in theaters.
Having Unicron in the first of a trilogy is like if in the first marvel movie they have Galactus
My favorite scene is when Rhinox does the whole speech
My dad worked on this movie he filmed the New York scenes with my uncle and I’m glad you enjoyed the movie.
I think they should start making like really good solo movies , like Bumblebee. Make more on him, make on prime , make on mirage , arcee , etc. Slowly build up their charecters , make people care for them...
I actually really liked it! Part of that was just me being relieved it was more my idea of transformers when compared to the Michael Bay adaptations
The transformers are over 4 million years old. 7 years is a blip to them. Prime says “Seven LOOONG years” like he’s been doing hard time or something.
I like when Airazor stated that the Terrorcons had dark energy which made them "All but invincible"
And then in the final battle, Battletrap just kinda stood there and let himself die, and Nightbird exploded the second Bumblebee touched her.
I watched this movie with my dad, who knows pretty much nothing but bare bones knowledge of Transformers, and his biggest take away was asking me afterward "Why is Optimus so mean and brutal?"
Awesome review, I've been a huge fan of your channel for a while. You always make me laugh and always speak my mind. Your amazing and i hope you continue to do great things. Also, As a beast wars fan, i agree.
What do you mean, a step in the right direction? Bumblebee was 10 steps in the right direction, ROTB was walking 5 of those back. And yes, Unicron would have eaten itself, welcome to stable timeloop.
Bayverse isn't canon lol stay mad
@@marvelousball I really wish you were right. But, you see, I entered the theater for ROTB hoping that, at the very least, it broke the Bayverse canon. And it failed to do even that. So yeah...
I heard Optimus say come once and I couldn’t stop giggling and had to stop the vid to go see a clip
Me and my Dad went to see this movie a week later after it was released in theaters, and I thought it was ok. I personally had fun with it even if critics didn't like it that much.
You’re right, the deleted scenes would have made the story more cohesive. Especially showing at the start why Optimus behaved so differently in this movie.
They could've added on to the story from Bumblebee (2018) and introduce Megatron in the sequel. Instead, we get freaking Terracons, the Maximals, and Unicron in a single movie without build-up or explanton. That doesn't give off any red flags?
As bolt said, Unicron shouldn’t be before Megatron, makes him look lesser
Before watching ROTB my initial thought was that the Maximals had to travel back in time to save Optimus from being assassinated by a small group of predacons. The predacons manage to critically injure him to the point he's out of commission for damn near half the film leaving ratchet and wheeljack to keep his vitals up. This also causes a fuss between the bots and maximals Optimus primal tries to lead the autobots to stop the rest of the predacons from finishing the job but their bias for Optimus clouds their judgment. So the bots aand maximals have to work together in order for Optimus to survive
I had a feeling that it wouldn’t be as good as bumblebee because it wasn’t directed be Travis Knight.
19:09 To go with that fact, in the RID 2001, Scourge was a copy of Optimus Prime. So that could’ve have work if it went down that route.
I wasn't a fan of rise of the beasts but agree that the Bumblebee Movie was the best one. Shatter and Dropkick are my top favorite movie characters
The best way to describe this movie is, it's a good transformers movie but it lacks the heart character connectivity and the lack of storytelling that the Michael Bay movies and bumblebee movie had.
10:43 mustve been really akward for the families at that movie