I have used and recommended Fram oil filters for years. I don't need to watch the follow up video, I have known for a very long time that nearly everything about Harley Davidson motor cycles are foreign made. About as close as we come to American made is the assembly process, because even the frames are made in Canada, at least they used to be. Now a days they may be made in China. I know that's where that oil Filter was made. at least the new Harley Davidson filter was. I'm not sure if I remember what state the fram filter was made, but I'm thinking they're actually made in Wisconsin. But I'm not sure without looking that up. Great video and I absolutely loved your speech at the end. This all about me, me, me society is truly sickening. I wish you the best. Peace..
This is a real blow to the purist out there who are "I only use HD parts only." and definitely threw some egg on HD corporate's face. It's the way you handled it and your message at the end that stood out to me. Thanks for that.
I'm pretty sure HDs corporate face is just a broken egg at this point. Most of their products have been dissected and proven to be extremely low effort and low quality. They've historically had random periods of producing straight garbage because they can ride on reputation for while, then snap correcting once people catch on.
@@chrisclark6161 Sadly, I have experienced this first hand buying Harley parts/Accessories for my bike. I have now returned three (3) HD things I purchased for my bike in the past two years because of flawed workmanship/poor quality - but the price $$ was still premium Harley Davidson. No more, I've given up on them. I am convinced they were just Made in China imports with HD's logo. I mean, they really were Dollar Store quality. I will only buy non-HD after market now or do without. I am especially shocked and surprised at the oil filter here. No more HD filters for me. It has been obvious for a while now that HD is just a profit/greed company that only cares about the shareholders. It's sad to see that happen to what was once a company that really cared about its riding customers. If anyone here plays guitar, you will know that Gibson is now the same as HD in this respect. Low quality/max price and profit. 😒
@@VN9001 I only use after market parts on my Softail, and most of those are made in the USA. (most harley techs and mechanics do as well, even though they could get the HD branded stuff at a discount). The only think I get HD branded first if available is the electronic wiring harnesses, extensions, kits, etc. That stuff it is still made of great quality and better than most aftermarket. My bike is very far from stock, and the only thing that is HD branded is the Quick-detach mounting kit for my sissy bar. Everything else that is not stock, it is aftermarket. I buy performance upgrades from DKCustomProducts, and Handlebars, pegs, bags, risers, gloves, and more from Trashin' Supply Company. Both american small business, and parts manufactured in the USA of high quality. You get what you pay for, and HD (made in china) aint it.
I had a discussion with the parts guy in HD shop . He was adamant HD oil is the best for your motorcycle end of. I’m trying to tell him Harley oil is rebranded . It’s better than mobile 1 he kept saying. Wow wow wow. Maybe he’s been educated by Harley Davidson !!!!
I wasn't surprised, but maybe the box with the H-D logo will be a collectable item someday. Definitely a great conversation piece as well, I can hear the kids saying "...but daddy, why does it say "made in China?..."
As a heavy diesel mechanic ( and someone who has never owned a Harley), I have no idea why this showed up in my feed, but I found it very interesting. Doing something kind can be as simple as tapping a like button and leaving a comment to help a person out with the algorithm for talking time to share information like this.
I've been riding for 63 years. All makes and models. I've been using FRAM filters in all my cars, truck and bikes since the 1960's. I"VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY KIND! I agree with you 100%! And God Bless You on your "Be Kind to a Stranger" advice. The world needs more people like you!
Keeping a passion for riding that long is impressive. I just moved from biking on dirt to pavement and bought a Kawasaki 650 and I've been loving it. I wish we had more bikes in the US, it might help the visibility issue.
@@MagnusCrossNo, I'm not a wizard, just old. I was only commenting about my experience with FRAM filters. I often hear negative comments about FRAM filters and I was just sharing my "60+ years of experience" using them. Again, I've never had a failure. Peace.
Excellent video. As a 50 year motorcycle builder, rider, racer of many brands, you info on the filters is spot on. Also, you speak with kindness and that shows in your final comments. Ride safe.
This is definitely not me coming to this video after installing the new harley filter on my street glide just today. lol a day late and a dollar short. love your channel.
I've been riding for 37 years, Harley-Davidsons for 26 of those years. One of the most irritating aspects of the biker community is the Fan Boys that are blindly loyal to one brand, one creed, one religion, etc, etc. I love this video & the way that you respectfully inform & educate for any that want to listen with an open mind. And, your message at the end about helping others is awesome. Thank you
This dude.... besides the great video and info, didn't ask for a like or subscribe, like absolutely everyone else does in every single video (I had done both on my own already at that point). That was nice. Then he goes on to give some genuinely great life advice that really can change the communities we live in, and made an effort to get you to really think about it. This is a good guy
This guy rocks! I laughed my head off when I visualized all the "experts" from the comment section watching this video! I fully support the last message!
I’ve been a mechanic for 37 years riding motorcycles even longer. I have to say information for these filters is unmistakably. Awesome thank you sir God bless you ride safe.
Well I just want to say someone who has been riding Harley-Davidson for many years I am shocked at the poor quality of that filter and I would really like to thank you for taking the time to show this to me and many others I will of course pass your content around and make sure everybody sees it because that is an absolute shocking situation with such an expensive part from Harley-Davidson and I hope someone from there is watching this and they realised that we have eyes as well as they do and I hope they can see exactly what we are seeing too and I hope they can make a simple decision and make a better oil filter thank you so so much it's very very much I am from Ireland so thank
@@nateryan7041 its been that way for a while. almost every company is not only like that....they are required by law to do so if they are a publicly traded company. there are no incentives to making something better
@@nateryan7041 I am not a HD owner, but as a Porsche owner I can tell you exactly the same shit happens, and with Ferrari… As my late dad used to say : the customer begs to be cheated! Much respect to Mr Case, daring to share this video with us. Thanks a lot from Marc, Belgium.
It just amazes me at how well this guy explains things. Unlike many TH-cam videos where the guy seems to be talking just to hear himself, every word that comes out of this guy’s mouth is valuable. He doesn’t waste any and he doesn’t waste your time. As a side comment, is it just me or does he just get better and better looking with every video. I love the longer hair the longer beard. You look awesome dude. Please don’t change that look.
@@willb1157 - I really dislike the TH-cam videos where the guy or gal speak so fast. Even if it is just the intro to the video. Then we have the ones who repeat themselves often, and use a lot of useless verbage like "you know", "uh", "um", "yeah", "huh", "like I said", etc.
I have been using Fram oil filters ONLY for the past 15 years of my 30+ Harley riding years & they NEVER let me down, NEVER had one problem with them! I work on all 3 of my Harleys myself and like it that way. That way I KNOW I got quality parts on my machines!!! It kills me when Harley riders I know with less years riding wanna think they know better. Thank you for proving this one point for me! AND great message at the end!!! Hope you have an AWESOME day!!!
This was the first video of yours I have seen. I really appreciate your no-bullshit, just the facts, science and logic forward presentation style and content. I did share with a few of my friends. I work in a motorcycle shop that works on anything-but-a-Harley and you have totally changed my opinion about what a smart and well spoken Haley person could be.
I'm retired from the business, never touched a Harley with a wrench, just many years of servicing Japanese and Spanish brands. I had an intuition about what this video was going to show and wasn't disappointed. So many opinions floating around out there and seeing some objective example to educate was well worth it.
Like the above poster stated, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. And I like the way you presented. Most content makers talk to much about nothing. Their channels have turned into infomercials. I am subscribing as soon as I finish tying this.
@@whalesong999 Bultaco, OSSA, Montessa, my three favorite classics. J Wood just auctioned off the contents of the Vintage Trail Bike Museum in Cheshire Massachusetts. It was sad because my friend had passed away and the museum was dissolved.
@@savage22bolt32 I got involved with Bultaco in 1961, first units came through Bultaco Western in California. Later on took machines from Cemoto East headed by John Taylor who eventually began importing OSSA and took them on as well. I won two medals in the Berkshire Trials on my OSSA Pioneer, a silver in 1970. They were satisfying machines, stable and rugged, quite different from the other two makes.
I'm the furthest thing from a Harley guy but I can totally appreciate what you did here and especially the message at the end of the video. Random acts of kindness definitely goes a long way. Liked and Subscribed. Continue spreading the positivity! 👍👌🙏
Jay proves that buying any product based on brand name alone does not ensure top quality and he gave a clear and concise breakdown of all 3 filters to support his opinion. Great video!
I been using fram filters for about 35 years with no problems. I'm glad you made this video as I have often had this discussion with others who don't believe until they see for themselves. I am also aware there was a glut of fake fram filters going around for a while. I haven't seen any for about 5 years but it's easy to spot a fake and avoid it. Many manufacturers have fitted fram filters O.E.
@@plantfeeder6677 Well all can say is I have cut thousands of filters open and have seen the fake Fram filters first hand. I will check out project farm but I'm almost sure he did not but from a reputable dealer if he does have one of the poor quality filters. 35 years building engines and oil is high on the list of things that gets taken very seriously. What brand do you recommend?
Guess what folks Harley doesn't manufacture oil filters! They manufacture motorcycles and are in the business to make profit squeezing every dime! That's a fact...so they have the lowest bidder fill their oil filter contract. Fram or Purolator or someone else is making the filters anyway. That's just basic manufacturing sense. Don
@@plantfeeder6677 Been a Project Farm subscriber for ages, I have never seen a oil filter video/fram oil filter test nor can i find a video related to this on Project Farm. Are you possibly a line worker at the new/current HD filters? I have used Fram on my Audi a3 and a4 as well as my motorcycles without any issues. I have rebuilt countless bikes and cars in my spare time over the years.
Dude. You rock . I love your ending. Nothing about motorcycles. Nothing about what we should do for you. You didn't say " subscribe " like the others. You said help someone. Do something for a stranger. I'm not religious. But bless you man . And by the way, all I use are Fram- on both my bikes . . 😎
Hello Jay, just want you to now , i really followed your advice. „Do something good for others“ Because you really touched my soul. Thank you for this. Greez from A Swiss guy.
Jay, thank you for taking the time to educate a lot of folks on the quality of filters. I'm 60 years old and grew up working on my own vehicles. Almost every parts store you went into showed cut filters. Usually it was Fram vs. Wix. The Fram always looked very cheaply made, while the Wix looked very well put together. I believe that has stuck in the minds of a lot of folks. I am very glad that you made this video, showing the quality of Fram nowadays. I will certainly keep that in mind when changing the oil on my bike. I especially want to thank you for the very special and inspirational ending of your video. Far too many folks have gotten away from that thinking. I do believe that what you have said can make a huge difference. Hopefully, folks will take your advice! Again, many thanks!
@@jcassociates8198 Depending on how much you spend and application, Fram filters are from very cheaply made to Very well made i use Fram Racing diesel oil filters on my truck... they're just below Cat filters without being a stupendously tall housing. and they beat Fleetguard cummins filters. not to mention they're less than half the price of the cummins filter which is about 80 dollars and the cat filter thats about 100-120 i already have to buy 240 dollars worth of oil every oil change which is every 3500 miles. or 200 hours. why would i spend money on a oil filter thats supposed to last 3-4 times longer than my oil change interval and its over double the price. 32 dollars vs 80-120
In other videos the Fram filters, at least for cars had cardboard endcaps instead of the metal endcaps like the filter in this video. When you spent more money on the higher priced Fram filters with full synthetic filtering media it was then the metal endcaps showed back up.
Thank you for doing this kind video for us strangers. Your logic and argumentation line is bullet proof. Looking forward to the video about the manufacturing at home . Ride safe 🤙
I'm not surprised at these results as I used to work for wix filters and we made the oil filters for nearly every brand you see on the shelf including AC Delco, Mopar, Ford and Fram. Back then Fram filters were made with better components and were much higher quality than even the OEM filters we made. Fram set their standards higher and were a bit of a pain to make because of those standards but I've used them ever since with no regrets and even paid more for them knowing I was getting a higher quality part. It's nice to know that they haven't lowered their standards over the years like some manufacturers have.
@@choltzapple Frams bad reputation is from knock off products being sold, Always Check that your source for filters is a registered Fram Agent! if they get it from some reseller then usually its a fake
This guy is pretty good but would love to see other filters in thd test. trucks cost a fortune and million mile motors and you dont use Fram for a reason bmw an Mercedes are the same Allison transmission uses a WIX for a reason. Chev use to use them, now the fuel and transmission filters now are cheap junk made in china at twice the price.. Bob the oil guy is a very good source.
I've used ONLY Fram since I started driving 35 years ago. Never had a problem, never leaked. My car is a 2006 Sienna with 302,000 miles. NEVER a problem! Still runs like new, gets the same mileage it ever has. Thanks Fram!
You are SO Right; we are all brothers and sisters and we can change the trajectory of our world through ongoing intentional acts of kindness to random strangers! And thank you for Fram / Harley reveal!
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen! I remember a few years back, people started running down Fram filters and many more jumped on that bandwagon. I have never had any problems with Fram oil filters, and never witnessed anyone else having any problems either. I was always suspicious of all of the anti-Fram claims. Here's some good evidence that my suspicions were correct. I would be willling to bet that it is not just Harley Davidson that is skimping on parts either. There is good reason to believe that many OEM parts are not as good as name brand aftermarket parts. Who knows who even makes OEM parts anyways? The manufacturers sure aren't going to tell you. One thing you can count on though is this: OEM service parts (like filters and tune up parts) are made by the lowest bidder that could meet the minimum specifications. The only thing Fram makes is filters. They have a lot more to lose if it found that thier filters consistantly fail than Harley Davidson or Ford does if filters with their names on them consistantly failed. People consider HD a motorcycle manufacturer, and Ford an auto manufacturer. Most people wouldn't judge an entire bike or car by the OEM filter, even if it failed. They would just say something like "It's a good machine, it just had a bad filter." If the same thing happened with a Fram filter, they would say "Fram filters are junk."
All very true, but when you deal with as many oil sample testing results that utilize Rotating Disc Electrode (RDE) and Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) tests to determine particle size as i have over the years you get a sense of the difference between say a Fram's vs a WIX's filter media and to me thats where the rubber meets the road. I've had crappy chinesium two dollar filters outperform Fram but shockingly come very very close to WIX in ability. I'll be honest though, i dont see many Fram results anymore because mostly everything i touch is WIX equipped so Fram may have picked it up quite a few notches over the past 7 years...
There is not good reason to believe that aftermarket parts are better than OEM, because that's just not true. I've been restoring cars for 25 years now and it really depends on what car/motorcycle maker you're talking about. For instance, OEM Yamaha and Honda parts, and I'm talking specifically about my motorcycles, are just as good if not better than aftermarket parts. The same was always true about my German vehicles. Harley-Davidson on the other hand is known for trying to rip off their customers. So it's pretty far fetched to use this example and apply it across the board.
@@gmctech Chinesium is a term for Chinese products that are made out of low quality Chinese metal. Not paper filters. It comes from putting the word Chinese in front of magnesium. Yes, the filter is encased in metal but that's not the same thing.
@Dan Gerous WRONG MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, IT'S BASICALLY AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BLANKET TERM! From the the web!..... "Chinesium is a made up element, not found on the periodic table, which was invented as a blanket term for every cheap material (metal, plastic, ceramic) originating from China, manufactured at a low quality to decrease production costs and to maximize profits."
I try to do something kind for strangers multiple times a day, even if it's as simple as waiting to hold the door for someone behind me. But I must admit that I do this for selfish reasons, my day is always brighter when those around me are happy and smiling. Being kind almost always gets a heartfelt smile from a stranger.
Thanks friend a video with a great message. The world needs more people like you. You made someone's day brighter. And yes the oil filter info was also good
Good information, thanks man. After 42 years of riding I now own my first HD. You just showed me something that I needed to see. And I'm not shocked at all.
Further reinforces the fact (not idea, but fact) that most motorcyclists, despite their rough outer appearance, are some of the nicest people you'll ever come across in your life. Case and point with Jay in this video. Thank you for opening our eyes to the reality of the situation, as even with as trivial as an oil filter may be to some. Anything that helps another live life a little easier and aids in doing what they enjoy should be championed, needless to say. I'm looking forward to more vids from you!
I love you closing statements about being kind to a stranger. As a matter of fact that is part of my life and who I am. I only wish more people would adopt this philosophy on a larger scale. Then like you stated, we would watch this world transform right before our eyes.
This is the best research video I have ever watched. This puts the Fram doubters in place and I love your easy laid back video with great information that was spot on. You did a great job and will do something for a stranger. Thank you.
Fram fffers different budget categories, you don't want the cheapest you'll get better quality at other brands at the same price. Go for their Mid and specially the Upper tier they are one of the best.
Nicely done Jay. I'm a retired designer from HD and I've always used the Fram filter. Now maybe because of your video they might become more difficult to find. Don't know. Good job comparing and showing the inside. Thanks for doing the video. Unfortunately some will stand on that hill claiming that HD is better. I'll continue using the Fram filter and ride with confidence and think of it as a piece of art. Thanks for the advise at the end of the video. Yep, your advise can make a HUGE impact on someone life and you might not even know it.
Hey bud, you are so right. Not only should more people think like you, but also have the courage to state how they feel. I live by the saying ( the love you withold, is the pain you will carry from lifetime to lifetime) We are all brothers and sisters. Love you.
I’ve always used fram and never had issues in fact my last car had 450,000 miles when I sold it so obviously fram filters work and work well. Great video
@@openroadtrucking6562 Did you watch the video? I've sent new Wix filters back on more than one occasion due to poor workmanship. Every application is different. Product quality from most major brands is not the same across the board. I've seen the videos where Fram looks awful. This video shows the opposite. And in one of my applications Wix has sucked consistently. That said, it probably would have worked fine. I've never seen or heard of an engine failure from a cheap oil filter and it doesn't look like HD is concerned about it either.
@@LikelyCandidate Agree wouldnt touch a wix filter seen them fall apart on numerous occasions i generally use Purflux filters but depends on the engine i am fitting them to as it does depend which model to which is best to use
OK. I don't ride bikes, but your video was in my recommendations, and seemed interesting. I do service vintage devices, but it's vintage stereo equipment that I work with. All that said, this is one of the most compelling videos I've seen lately. Your delivery, your message, your tone, the choreographed moves of the oil filters, and the end message, everything is compelling. Well done, sir.
I'm 72 years old and since my first Mach 1 (351 Cleveland) 1972 vintage I've ALWAYS used Fram filters NEVER had a problem until i used a wix just once ,thank you very much for a FANTASTIC video can't ride anymore after my stroke 😢 but your the best
This is the first video of yours that I've seen. I was thoroughly impressed with your straightforward, no hype presentation. And, you certainly opened my eyes into the less than impressive construction of the motor company's filter. That's the last one of those I will ever buy. But most importantly, your personal encouragement to be kind to a stranger will stick with me. Thanks for taking the time to present this video and I'm now subscribed.
Immediately after watching this 5 days ago, I went straight to the link and bought 3 FRAM filters. They arrived today in perfect shape, they cost less than half of a K&N at Fortnine and they're better filters too. Can't beat that. If the seller didn't have a limit of three, I would have bought an even dozen. No harm in stocking up.
My mom always says to me when I'm leaving for work, "Do something nice for somebody today." I always try to make someone else's day just a little better than it was before I interacted with them.
I’ve owned 3 bikes years ago and I’m a car guy! Also now age 75. Your video is impressive and well done. Must have taken a lot of time to prepare those 3 filter samples. Have you heard this phrase before? “You cannot judge a book by it’s cover.” Well done my friend 👍.
I very rarely comment on any TH-cam content but this is so well presented and has such a solid answer to skeptics it is refreshing. The end message is icing on this particular cake. Well done and well received.
Amazing video, I don't own a motorcycle and that Fram filter is amazing, just like the old Harley one. Sad that Harley has stooped to the low quality filter.
Last bike I owned was a '00 Ultra. Year 1= 4 stators. That's also the year a Harley rep asked me to leave a bike demo at a HOG rally because I gave poor reviews of how cheaply made the FLT faring was compared to the '89 I owned. Excellent video. Thanks for the info 👍
Great information! I’ll buy Fram from now on. What really impressed me, though, is your advice about doing something kind for a stranger. I could not agree more! Nothing makes us feel good like helping someone else. Just five seconds being kind to a stranger can make you walk taller all day!
Excellent video. Great ending too. Used to sell Amsoil. I cut up a few filters as demos. OEMs were generally questionable Fram and Hastings were generally the best I could find. Think Hastings is now gone. Thanks for your efforts.
I just bought my first harley a week ago and just randomly found myself on this video and you sir have a subscriber. Great info, great moral message! Doing good work
Amazing the differences in OEM parts today as compared to earlier parts. I have always used Fram filters on my cars and trucks, now I will use them on my Harleys. Thank You very much for pointing out these differences in OEM and Aftermarket parts. 'Back in the Day', as folks are fond of saying, I used Nothing but H-D Oil and Fluids, along with the various filters, on all of my rides. Old Dogs can and do learn New Tricks!! A Smile and or a Kind Word costs you nothing, but it can be the Best Gift that person gets for a while. I try to be Kind and Friendly no matter what or where. You never know what the other individual is going through, people tend to react in kind to Decent and Respectful Treatment. 'Give Respect and Get Respect' is a motto I try to live by. The Old Saying, 'Act like an Asshole, get Treated like One' is still powerful today. If someone is nasty to me, I try to be understanding and expect the same from others. The world can be a very beautiful place if you have the right Mind-Set. 'Attitude truly is Everything'.
Overall I think it was a fair and honest video with the information supplied, but there was some left out. The differences in filter media. 1. The total square inches of filter media. The amount of surface area determines the amount of oil that can be filtered at once. 2. The size of particles that are filtered out. The HD twin cam filter (99 part number suffix) goes down to 5 microns. The Evo filter(77 part number suffix) only filters down to 30 microns. 3. By pass pressure rating. All spin on oil filters have some form of oil filtering by pass. It allows oil to by pass the filter if the filter gets to restrictive ot flow. Dirty oil is better than no oil. All spin on filters will do this way more than you want to think about. 4.is the filter capable of providing enough oil. A sportster with a twin cam oil filter will experience bottom end low or no pressure. I personally would not put a Fram on my lawn mower let alone an expensive motorcycle. 20 years of working on American air cooled vtwins for my money has taught me. There is the exception to every rule, and you really do get to see it all. Much like many things that were better in the old days Fram is one of them. H
@@TraceyAllen You can plainly see that HD is skimping on filter media because of all the space between the pleats. Add all the glue that's clogging the filter media, and I guess you get the picture. As far as lawnmowers or motorcycles go, I don't have an opinion on the quality of Fram's oil filters. But for automobiles Fram makes some of the best on the market. The Ultra Synthetic is top notch.
@@snippits75 I’m glad that you have had good luck with fram filters. I’ve been a technician for 20 years, specifically working on Harleys, victory’s, excelsior henderson, buell , and Indian. I have never seen a stock/Oem oil filter that was properly installed, fail. I have seen several Frams. Not a big percentage of the total amount, but more than 0. The main failure point is that glue. The filter media will come loose and plug up the filter. Oil temps in air cooled motorcycles gets really hot, especially now when they are running so lean for emissions, like 275 to 350 degrees. Maybe more if you are in the south. At the end of the day the biggest problem with any vehicle is the lack of any kind of maintenance. I’d rather see you regularly change your fram filter, than you neglecting a stock one for too long. Regular maintenance is the cheapest option.
I ride dirt and adventure bikes so have no idea how this ended up in my feed but god damn it I clicked anyway and stuck through to the end because it was informative with no fluff or fancy production. Also it may be late in the day but I’ll be sure to do something kind for a stranger in the next day or two.
Would love to see you do a collaboration with Project Farm. Your video was to the point, explained in laymen's terms and simultaneously thorough. Thank you for taking the time to do your research.
Have always fitted the Harley filter to customers bikes thinking we were offering the best we could, this has me questioning that choice. Also really enjoyed your message at the end of the video, sure does feel good to be kind out there 👍
Buddy, you need to make more videos. We budget bikers that daily ride our bikes to work need your clear and calm information. Thank you for the video, thank you for being kind. Looking forward to more Harley related uploads.
This was an truly inspirational Oil Filter comparison. Who would have thought an 'oil can' review could bring a tear to my eye? This one did, and I thank you for that.
Much of the backlash against Fram filters goes back to the dissection of the economy Fram automotive filters that featured cardboard endcaps. I have not personally dissected the more upscale Fram Ultraguard filters, but I'm told they are well built. In any case, I was aware of the terrible design of the HD filters, and I've been running Fram on my Electra Glide for several years with no issues. Glad you brought this out to benefit the public.
After reading an article back in the 90's about Fram filters being used on performance engines I decided to try one and price was half that of an hd one. I've been using them on my 1990 evo ever since. Not one issue and no wet sumping
You won't notice an issue. It would just cause wear and tear on your engine and there's no way to really test for that. Also 1990 was 30 years ago my dude. A lot of technology advancement has happened since then. It's foolish to get stuck in your ways.
The engine has well over 60,000 cable broke so not sure of actual mileage. Its only been apart once to replace base gaskets. Riden and abused so I'll continue using them
I am a ASE certified parts specialist and I want to thank Jay for the breakdown and information in this video. There are some parts available that can work for the application but are not the best choice. Personally I've seen it both ways better quality on discount or off brand parts than oem and oem superior to discount or off brand parts. long and short of my point is higher price or better reputation dose not guarantee best quality.
Great video, I use K&N on my bike. They have a nut on the end that a 17mm fits, which makes it lots easier to take off; plus the drain plug is a 17mm as well. Good job Jay.
Thanks for that very intelligent information. You proved rite in front of all of HD owners.I got a 2004 Heritage classic with 99000 miles on it..No issues .which is best K +N or Fram..Bike never been on.a trailer..I feell 24 ft and shattered my shoulder and had a knee replacement by the VA...71 years old .Lotta therapy im riding just fine but not to Sturgis and so 150 mile out and back does me fine and i like riding by myself. God bless your ending statement...Thanks
K&N has went to the trash as well. Their filters were recently redesigned, and the quality is no longer there. The new filters no longer have the hex on the end, have a plastic interior core support, and a significantly lower quality of materials. Even worse, I've found small pieces of steel left over from the stamping process inside several of the newer filters.
Most manufacturers don't include the hex head on the end as it encourages the less enlightened to screw the filter down with a wrench. Guaranteed to produce a leak and guaranteed to be interpreted as the manufacture making a defective part.
@@ericcsuf K&N did, and based on how its disappearance coincided with a significant decline in filter quality, I'd be willing to bet that it was eliminated for cost reasons, not because of people over tightening the filters.
Really nice presentation. Fram used to make some really poor quality filters but they stepped up their game. They also make several grades of filters from basic to ultra premium.
I've been using Fram oil filters all my life on everything I have ever owned. Been a mechanic for over 40 years and even though I've put other brands on customer vehicles at their request, I won't short change my own equipment.
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I must say it was very good. Nice how you got your point across very clearly & never even raised your voice or got rude. I don't use Fram filters usually (for me it's STP or K&N) but it was cool seeing the comparison. You got a subscriber. 😎🇺🇸👌
The ending is better than the beginning about we are all brothers and sisters, bleed red and be kind to each other! You knocked it out of the park bro 🙏🏻 peace & love and I love my 2 HD
Great video, Jay! So... Fram made the 1996 and earlier HD oil filters.. interesting. I think my 96' Evo Heritage will now be getting a Fram oil filter moving forward. I'm retired, been using Fram oil filters on my vehicles since 1974 and never had any problems. Currently, my 2002 5.3 Silverado with 366,000 miles using only Fram. Thanks for sharing 👍
Jay, I don't have a Harley, but I just bought a Vstrom and picked up a Fram spin-on oil filter at Wallymart for convivence for the first oil change. Your presentation, exposing the facts and message were all top notch. Thank you for the quality video.
Hey Verbal Widget, Get back in your lane with the rest of our v-strom bretheren. ..JK!! btw, I sold my HD Road-King and kept my V-Strom. lol seriously tho🤣
Great job Jay! I'm in my 70's and have used Fram filters right along. I also ran a heavy equipment repair garage and used plenty of Fram filters there. The filters always performed as expected.
Right on JC! I started using Fram years ago on my 90 XL 883 Evo when HD kept $ increasing. Didn't know that Frams were made better, thanks. My Fram oil filter was always black. I actually wanted orange like Indian Larry ALWAYS used!
That's one of the best videos I've seen lately. I like the fact that you took the time and effort to check for yourself something that would otherwise remain a mere speculation, or someone's opinion, and that you checked the old style Harley filter, to which the rest of us may not have access. I also appreciate the message at the end. Thank you for sharing.
My bike is black and orange. Fram filter matches my bike, LOL. Works just fine no issues. I’ve been using them for 30 years absolutely no problems. God bless.
The best side by side comparison video I have seen on the subject. That alone would make me subscribe but you're appeal to treat each other with kindness really sealed the deal. Well done sir!
hey Jay, I like motorcycles, but don't own a Harley. I clicked on your video because of your appearance, you looked like a guy who is who he is and looks like a motorcycle mechanic. I enjoyed your presentation. I like the way you use your words and tell your perspective. I like your research. And thanks for the advice for my life. Appreciate you putting time and effort into making this video.
Really impressive video. The filters, the being kind. I have been using K and N oil filters in my 04 Heritage. I looked at the box and they were made in Taiwan. Now I want to take it apart and look inside. You are a good man Jay. The world is still full of kind people and you are an example of them. Cheers from Ontario
Hi Jay! Excellent video my friend! First time viewer, now a new subscriber! Over 40 years as a mechanic. I have used nothing but fram oil filters on my own machines. For my customers I will always offer that. For the customers that want the oem filter, I am happy to give them what they want too. As a professional mechanic that has run my solo shop over 35 years, your words at the end are truly the key to the best work life I could have ever imagined! I practice that everyday. “Live the life you love, love the life you live” Bob Marley
Excellent Jay, I have used fram for years and never had any problems, Im always amazed of the amount of people who think a Harley engine is so sensitive to oil and the filters those engines do not have super high tolerences they are not much more engineered then a horizointal shaft lawn mower engine and if they were machined to high tolerences they would not use 20w 50 oil now that being said that's why I love the evo and older harley engines becaouse they are very basic and easy to work on, thanks for taking the time to make this awesome video and the life advice which is very true everyone please in the words of David Allen Coe stop by and say Hello in there !
There is so much to love about this video. For me, reading the comments of those who "know" and then showing irrefutable evidence that they have been brainwashed gives me the warm and fuzzies. As I don't know Jay, this would be his kind act to me, a stranger.
I refer to this guys’ oil change video every time I change the oil in my bike. Changing my trans fluid to 75w-140 made a big difference in how my bike shifts.
I've always used Fram on all of my vehicles from work vans to motorcycles. I've never had any issues with any of the different models they offer. Great video!
Check out part 2 of this video here: th-cam.com/video/yD12gsczM5o/w-d-xo.html
Already did... went right to it. I can only imagine the work & time that goes into making something like that. Soldier on. Oyeah impressive! FLH58
I have used and recommended Fram oil filters for years. I don't need to watch the follow up video, I have known for a very long time that nearly everything about Harley Davidson motor cycles are foreign made. About as close as we come to American made is the assembly process, because even the frames are made in Canada, at least they used to be. Now a days they may be made in China. I know that's where that oil Filter was made. at least the new Harley Davidson filter was. I'm not sure if I remember what state the fram filter was made, but I'm thinking they're actually made in Wisconsin. But I'm not sure without looking that up. Great video and I absolutely loved your speech at the end. This all about me, me, me society is truly sickening. I wish you the best. Peace..
Thanks oil jesus
Well I know what filter I will use on my 1996 Evo, But what oil would you recommend for the 1996 Stock motor.
Maan! I love your song Dead and buried! Why did you switch to reviews of filters!?
This is a real blow to the purist out there who are "I only use HD parts only." and definitely threw some egg on HD corporate's face. It's the way you handled it and your message at the end that stood out to me. Thanks for that.
I'm pretty sure HDs corporate face is just a broken egg at this point. Most of their products have been dissected and proven to be extremely low effort and low quality. They've historically had random periods of producing straight garbage because they can ride on reputation for while, then snap correcting once people catch on.
@@chrisclark6161 Sadly, I have experienced this first hand buying Harley parts/Accessories for my bike. I have now returned three (3) HD things I purchased for my bike in the past two years because of flawed workmanship/poor quality - but the price $$ was still premium Harley Davidson. No more, I've given up on them. I am convinced they were just Made in China imports with HD's logo. I mean, they really were Dollar Store quality. I will only buy non-HD after market now or do without. I am especially shocked and surprised at the oil filter here. No more HD filters for me. It has been obvious for a while now that HD is just a profit/greed company that only cares about the shareholders. It's sad to see that happen to what was once a company that really cared about its riding customers. If anyone here plays guitar, you will know that Gibson is now the same as HD in this respect. Low quality/max price and profit. 😒
@@VN9001 I only use after market parts on my Softail, and most of those are made in the USA. (most harley techs and mechanics do as well, even though they could get the HD branded stuff at a discount). The only think I get HD branded first if available is the electronic wiring harnesses, extensions, kits, etc. That stuff it is still made of great quality and better than most aftermarket. My bike is very far from stock, and the only thing that is HD branded is the Quick-detach mounting kit for my sissy bar. Everything else that is not stock, it is aftermarket. I buy performance upgrades from DKCustomProducts, and Handlebars, pegs, bags, risers, gloves, and more from Trashin' Supply Company. Both american small business, and parts manufactured in the USA of high quality. You get what you pay for, and HD (made in china) aint it.
I had a discussion with the parts guy in HD shop . He was adamant HD oil is the best for your motorcycle end of. I’m trying to tell him Harley oil is rebranded . It’s better than mobile 1 he kept saying. Wow wow wow. Maybe he’s been educated by Harley Davidson !!!!
@@VN9001 guitar player here and yes. Also I own Gibson’s so I’m not a hater. Lot of “misses” not as many “hits”
For me the surprise wasn't that Fram makes good filters, it was that the HD filter was so bad. Thanks for a great video Jay.
Ya because when you compare Fram to all the rest, Fram sucks....except when compared with HD.
@@plantfeeder6677 Thanks for your input. I value your opinion as you value Fram.
Have a great day.
@@plantfeeder6677 only the cheap ones, they make two levels of filter i believe.
I wasn't surprised, but maybe the box with the H-D logo will be a collectable item someday. Definitely a great conversation piece as well, I can hear the kids saying "...but daddy, why does it say "made in China?..."
Apparently, you don't research parts.
Damn. I've never seen someone drop mic so brutally calm.
It was great!
He’s the Jesus Christ of Harley Davidson. His demeanor is very enlightening. I wish I had that.
As a heavy diesel mechanic ( and someone who has never owned a Harley), I have no idea why this showed up in my feed, but I found it very interesting. Doing something kind can be as simple as tapping a like button and leaving a comment to help a person out with the algorithm for talking time to share information like this.
Demonstration by example. Wise and kind words, no hostility or mocking. You sir just gained another follower!
Blows my mind that you have 21k subs with only 13 videos....I wish there were more. I appreciate your approach.
I've been riding for 63 years. All makes and models. I've been using FRAM filters in all my cars, truck and bikes since the 1960's. I"VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY KIND! I agree with you 100%! And God Bless You on your "Be Kind to a Stranger" advice. The world needs more people like you!
63 years?! Wow, you must be a wizard.
He started at 6 years old with a full dresser, and worked his way up from there 😂
I was born in 1946. Got my first bike (scooter...Cushman Eagle) 1960. I was 14.
Keeping a passion for riding that long is impressive. I just moved from biking on dirt to pavement and bought a Kawasaki 650 and I've been loving it. I wish we had more bikes in the US, it might help the visibility issue.
@@MagnusCrossNo, I'm not a wizard, just old. I was only commenting about my experience with FRAM filters. I often hear negative comments about FRAM filters and I was just sharing my "60+ years of experience" using them. Again, I've never had a failure. Peace.
Excellent video. As a 50 year motorcycle builder, rider, racer of many brands, you info on the filters is spot on. Also, you speak with kindness and that shows in your final comments. Ride safe.
Well Said Friend, Well Said.
This is definitely not me coming to this video after installing the new harley filter on my street glide just today. lol a day late and a dollar short. love your channel.
I've been riding for 37 years, Harley-Davidsons for 26 of those years. One of the most irritating aspects of the biker community is the Fan Boys that are blindly loyal to one brand, one creed, one religion, etc, etc. I love this video & the way that you respectfully inform & educate for any that want to listen with an open mind. And, your message at the end about helping others is awesome. Thank you
There is a word for people like you if that all it takes to irritate you. Petty
One thing I learned, You are a good man!
What nice human being. We need more people like you! This way of kindness is the way I was raised, I’m 70 years old, nice to see it still exists.
This dude.... besides the great video and info, didn't ask for a like or subscribe, like absolutely everyone else does in every single video (I had done both on my own already at that point). That was nice.
Then he goes on to give some genuinely great life advice that really can change the communities we live in, and made an effort to get you to really think about it. This is a good guy
Jay, you just gkt yourself another follower. Cant wait for the next videos content. Thank you very kindly sir.
This guy rocks!
I laughed my head off when I visualized all the "experts" from the comment section watching this video!
I fully support the last message!
I’ve been a mechanic for 37 years riding motorcycles even longer. I have to say information for these filters is unmistakably. Awesome thank you sir God bless you ride safe.
Well I just want to say someone who has been riding Harley-Davidson for many years I am shocked at the poor quality of that filter and I would really like to thank you for taking the time to show this to me and many others I will of course pass your content around and make sure everybody sees it because that is an absolute shocking situation with such an expensive part from Harley-Davidson and I hope someone from there is watching this and they realised that we have eyes as well as they do and I hope they can see exactly what we are seeing too and I hope they can make a simple decision and make a better oil filter thank you so so much it's very very much I am from Ireland so thank
How can ANY Harley fan be surprised at over-priced for the quality pricing?
you are a fool if you think harley will change...it was done to make more money. period. thats all they care about
Some of the parts are just ridiculously priced !! I think who ever is running Harley right now there only concern is money not customer satisfaction!!
@@nateryan7041 its been that way for a while. almost every company is not only like that....they are required by law to do so if they are a publicly traded company. there are no incentives to making something better
@@nateryan7041 I am not a HD owner, but as a Porsche owner I can tell you exactly the same shit happens, and with Ferrari… As my late dad used to say : the customer begs to be cheated! Much respect to Mr Case, daring to share this video with us. Thanks a lot from Marc, Belgium.
It just amazes me at how well this guy explains things. Unlike many TH-cam videos where the guy seems to be talking just to hear himself, every word that comes out of this guy’s mouth is valuable. He doesn’t waste any and he doesn’t waste your time. As a side comment, is it just me or does he just get better and better looking with every video. I love the longer hair the longer beard. You look awesome dude. Please don’t change that look.
He speaks without rush, and I much prefer this. The info is stated and enunciated in a way my brain retains. Brilliant for some of us.
@@willb1157 - I really dislike the TH-cam videos where the guy or gal speak so fast. Even if it is just the intro to the video. Then we have the ones who repeat themselves often, and use a lot of useless verbage like "you know", "uh", "um", "yeah", "huh", "like I said", etc.
@@willb1157 He'd be an excellent leader / teacher ~
Excellent video. I didn’t even know I was going to watch the whole thing. I will do something kind for a stranger, I think.
I have been using Fram oil filters ONLY for the past 15 years of my 30+ Harley riding years & they NEVER let me down, NEVER had one problem with them! I work on all 3 of my Harleys myself and like it that way. That way I KNOW I got quality parts on my machines!!! It kills me when Harley riders I know with less years riding wanna think they know better. Thank you for proving this one point for me! AND great message at the end!!! Hope you have an AWESOME day!!!
This was the first video of yours I have seen. I really appreciate your no-bullshit, just the facts, science and logic forward presentation style and content. I did share with a few of my friends.
I work in a motorcycle shop that works on anything-but-a-Harley and you have totally changed my opinion about what a smart and well spoken Haley person could be.
I'm retired from the business, never touched a Harley with a wrench, just many years of servicing Japanese and Spanish brands. I had an intuition about what this video was going to show and wasn't disappointed. So many opinions floating around out there and seeing some objective example to educate was well worth it.
Like the above poster stated, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. And I like the way you presented.
Most content makers talk to much about nothing. Their channels have turned into infomercials. I am subscribing as soon as I finish tying this.
@@whalesong999 Bultaco, OSSA, Montessa, my three favorite classics.
J Wood just auctioned off the contents of the Vintage Trail Bike Museum in Cheshire Massachusetts. It was sad because my friend had passed away and the museum was dissolved.
@@rickyhawkins7407 and no shifty background music either!
@@savage22bolt32 I got involved with Bultaco in 1961, first units came through Bultaco Western in California. Later on took machines from Cemoto East headed by John Taylor who eventually began importing OSSA and took them on as well. I won two medals in the Berkshire Trials on my OSSA Pioneer, a silver in 1970. They were satisfying machines, stable and rugged, quite different from the other two makes.
I'm the furthest thing from a Harley guy but I can totally appreciate what you did here and especially the message at the end of the video. Random acts of kindness definitely goes a long way. Liked and Subscribed. Continue spreading the positivity! 👍👌🙏
Jay proves that buying any product based on brand name alone does not ensure top quality and he gave a clear and concise breakdown of all 3 filters to support his opinion.
Great video!
After listening to thi until the very end I can say with confidence, this man is a gentleman and a scholar.
You just landed another new subscriber. Not just for the information but also way you pass it on. Thanks! Kindness is infectious!
Same for me too. What a great video and presenter.
Wow…..what an awsome guy. Not only alot of knowledge but he also seems to be a great guy👍
I been using fram filters for about 35 years with no problems. I'm glad you made this video as I have often had this discussion with others who don't believe until they see for themselves. I am also aware there was a glut of fake fram filters going around for a while. I haven't seen any for about 5 years but it's easy to spot a fake and avoid it. Many manufacturers have fitted fram filters O.E.
@@plantfeeder6677 Well all can say is I have cut thousands of filters open and have seen the fake Fram filters first hand. I will check out project farm but I'm almost sure he did not but from a reputable dealer if he does have one of the poor quality filters. 35 years building engines and oil is high on the list of things that gets taken very seriously. What brand do you recommend?
Guess what folks Harley doesn't manufacture oil filters! They manufacture motorcycles and are in the business to make profit squeezing every dime! That's a fact...so they have the lowest bidder fill their oil filter contract. Fram or Purolator or someone else is making the filters anyway. That's just basic manufacturing sense. Don
@@plantfeeder6677 Been a Project Farm subscriber for ages, I have never seen a oil filter video/fram oil filter test nor can i find a video related to this on Project Farm.
Are you possibly a line worker at the new/current HD filters? I have used Fram on my Audi a3 and a4 as well as my motorcycles without any issues. I have rebuilt countless bikes and cars in my spare time over the years.
Dude. You rock . I love your ending. Nothing about motorcycles. Nothing about what we should do for you. You didn't say " subscribe " like the others. You said help someone. Do something for a stranger. I'm not religious. But bless you man . And by the way, all I use are Fram- on both my bikes . . 😎
Hello Jay, just want you to now , i really followed your advice. „Do something good for others“ Because you really touched my soul. Thank you for this. Greez from A Swiss guy.
Thx!
Jay, thank you for taking the time to educate a lot of folks on the quality of filters. I'm 60 years old and grew up working on my own vehicles. Almost every parts store you went into showed cut filters. Usually it was Fram vs. Wix. The Fram always looked very cheaply made, while the Wix looked very well put together. I believe that has stuck in the minds of a lot of folks. I am very glad that you made this video, showing the quality of Fram nowadays. I will certainly keep that in mind when changing the oil on my bike. I especially want to thank you for the very special and inspirational ending of your video. Far too many folks have gotten away from that thinking. I do believe that what you have said can make a huge difference. Hopefully, folks will take your advice! Again, many thanks!
Every one is different, The car ones are alot cheaper made than the New one for the Harley.
@@jcassociates8198 Depending on how much you spend and application, Fram filters are from very cheaply made to Very well made i use Fram Racing diesel oil filters on my truck... they're just below Cat filters without being a stupendously tall housing. and they beat Fleetguard cummins filters. not to mention they're less than half the price of the cummins filter which is about 80 dollars and the cat filter thats about 100-120 i already have to buy 240 dollars worth of oil every oil change which is every 3500 miles. or 200 hours. why would i spend money on a oil filter thats supposed to last 3-4 times longer than my oil change interval and its over double the price. 32 dollars vs 80-120
@@justnsaliga8518 Maybe I will give fram a try on my 2001 cummins 5.9
In other videos the Fram filters, at least for cars had cardboard endcaps instead of the metal endcaps like the filter in this video. When you spent more money on the higher priced Fram filters with full synthetic filtering media it was then the metal endcaps showed back up.
I have used Fram on every motor I have ever owned. Never had a single issue. Been doing this since my first motorcycle in 1983. Not one issue EVER.
I'm so glad you did this deconstruction video. I hope you changed some minds.
Such a wholesome guy and a really in depth breakdown of the filters
Thank you for doing this kind video for us strangers. Your logic and argumentation line is bullet proof.
Looking forward to the video about the manufacturing at home .
Ride safe 🤙
I'm not surprised at these results as I used to work for wix filters and we made the oil filters for nearly every brand you see on the shelf including AC Delco, Mopar, Ford and Fram. Back then Fram filters were made with better components and were much higher quality than even the OEM filters we made. Fram set their standards higher and were a bit of a pain to make because of those standards but I've used them ever since with no regrets and even paid more for them knowing I was getting a higher quality part. It's nice to know that they haven't lowered their standards over the years like some manufacturers have.
In the automotive world at least, Fram has earned their reputation for making terrible filters.
@@choltzapple people always say that, but I've never seen anyone have any evidence to back it up.
@@choltzapple Frams bad reputation is from knock off products being sold, Always Check that your source for filters is a registered Fram Agent! if they get it from some reseller then usually its a fake
This guy is pretty good but would love to see other filters in thd test. trucks cost a fortune and million mile motors and you dont use Fram for a reason bmw an Mercedes are the same Allison transmission uses a WIX for a reason. Chev use to use them, now the fuel and transmission filters now are cheap junk made in china at twice the price.. Bob the oil guy is a very good source.
@@clybrown cardboard for the filter element and rust inside them brand new
I've used ONLY Fram since I started driving 35 years ago.
Never had a problem, never leaked.
My car is a 2006 Sienna with 302,000 miles.
NEVER a problem!
Still runs like new, gets the same mileage it ever has.
Thanks Fram!
You are SO Right; we are all brothers and sisters and we can change the trajectory of our world through ongoing intentional acts of kindness to random strangers! And thank you for Fram / Harley reveal!
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen! I remember a few years back, people started running down Fram filters and many more jumped on that bandwagon. I have never had any problems with Fram oil filters, and never witnessed anyone else having any problems either. I was always suspicious of all of the anti-Fram claims. Here's some good evidence that my suspicions were correct. I would be willling to bet that it is not just Harley Davidson that is skimping on parts either. There is good reason to believe that many OEM parts are not as good as name brand aftermarket parts. Who knows who even makes OEM parts anyways? The manufacturers sure aren't going to tell you. One thing you can count on though is this: OEM service parts (like filters and tune up parts) are made by the lowest bidder that could meet the minimum specifications. The only thing Fram makes is filters. They have a lot more to lose if it found that thier filters consistantly fail than Harley Davidson or Ford does if filters with their names on them consistantly failed. People consider HD a motorcycle manufacturer, and Ford an auto manufacturer. Most people wouldn't judge an entire bike or car by the OEM filter, even if it failed. They would just say something like "It's a good machine, it just had a bad filter." If the same thing happened with a Fram filter, they would say "Fram filters are junk."
All very true, but when you deal with as many oil sample testing results that utilize Rotating Disc Electrode (RDE) and Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) tests to determine particle size as i have over the years you get a sense of the difference between say a Fram's vs a WIX's filter media and to me thats where the rubber meets the road. I've had crappy chinesium two dollar filters outperform Fram but shockingly come very very close to WIX in ability. I'll be honest though, i dont see many Fram results anymore because mostly everything i touch is WIX equipped so Fram may have picked it up quite a few notches over the past 7 years...
There is not good reason to believe that aftermarket parts are better than OEM, because that's just not true. I've been restoring cars for 25 years now and it really depends on what car/motorcycle maker you're talking about.
For instance, OEM Yamaha and Honda parts, and I'm talking specifically about my motorcycles, are just as good if not better than aftermarket parts. The same was always true about my German vehicles.
Harley-Davidson on the other hand is known for trying to rip off their customers.
So it's pretty far fetched to use this example and apply it across the board.
@@gmctech Chinesium is a term for Chinese products that are made out of low quality Chinese metal. Not paper filters. It comes from putting the word Chinese in front of magnesium.
Yes, the filter is encased in metal but that's not the same thing.
@Dan Gerous WRONG MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, IT'S BASICALLY AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BLANKET TERM! From the the web!..... "Chinesium is a made up element, not found on the periodic table, which was invented as a blanket term for every cheap material (metal, plastic, ceramic) originating from China, manufactured at a low quality to decrease production costs and to maximize profits."
I’m not a motorcycle guy and I have no idea how this showed up for me but think this guy should be everywhere!
I subscribed juts because of "your life changing advice." Respects, Rocky
Best advice for anyone. Especially when you’re fighting depression, do something for someone else, you’d be surprised how it changes your life.
I try to do something kind for strangers multiple times a day, even if it's as simple as waiting to hold the door for someone behind me. But I must admit that I do this for selfish reasons, my day is always brighter when those around me are happy and smiling. Being kind almost always gets a heartfelt smile from a stranger.
Thanks friend a video with a great message. The world needs more people like you. You made someone's day brighter. And yes the oil filter info was also good
This video rules! Jay seems like a total stand up guy. Hilarious, informative and absolutely right about all of it..especially kindness:)
Good information, thanks man. After 42 years of riding I now own my first HD. You just showed me something that I needed to see. And I'm not shocked at all.
Further reinforces the fact (not idea, but fact) that most motorcyclists, despite their rough outer appearance, are some of the nicest people you'll ever come across in your life. Case and point with Jay in this video. Thank you for opening our eyes to the reality of the situation, as even with as trivial as an oil filter may be to some. Anything that helps another live life a little easier and aids in doing what they enjoy should be championed, needless to say. I'm looking forward to more vids from you!
I love you closing statements about being kind to a stranger. As a matter of fact that is part of my life and who I am.
I only wish more people would adopt this philosophy on a larger scale. Then like you stated, we would watch this world transform right before our eyes.
Wow man, just wow. Random acts of kindness is exactly what will turn the tide. Thanks for this video
This is the best research video I have ever watched. This puts the Fram doubters in place and I love your easy laid back video with great information that was spot on. You did a great job and will do something for a stranger. Thank you.
Fram fffers different budget categories, you don't want the cheapest you'll get better quality at other brands at the same price. Go for their Mid and specially the Upper tier they are one of the best.
Nicely done Jay. I'm a retired designer from HD and I've always used the Fram filter. Now maybe because of your video they might become more difficult to find. Don't know. Good job comparing and showing the inside. Thanks for doing the video. Unfortunately some will stand on that hill claiming that HD is better. I'll continue using the Fram filter and ride with confidence and think of it as a piece of art. Thanks for the advise at the end of the video. Yep, your advise can make a HUGE impact on someone life and you might not even know it.
Hey bud, you are so right. Not only should more people think like you, but also have the courage to state how they feel. I live by the saying ( the love you withold, is the pain you will carry from lifetime to lifetime)
We are all brothers and sisters. Love you.
I’ve always used fram and never had issues in fact my last car had 450,000 miles when I sold it so obviously fram filters work and work well. Great video
Many videos on Fram Oil Filters on TH-cam, Do your own research. K&N for me.
@@openroadtrucking6562 Did you watch the video? I've sent new Wix filters back on more than one occasion due to poor workmanship. Every application is different. Product quality from most major brands is not the same across the board. I've seen the videos where Fram looks awful. This video shows the opposite. And in one of my applications Wix has sucked consistently. That said, it probably would have worked fine. I've never seen or heard of an engine failure from a cheap oil filter and it doesn't look like HD is concerned about it either.
@@LikelyCandidate Agree wouldnt touch a wix filter seen them fall apart on numerous occasions i generally use Purflux filters but depends on the engine i am fitting them to as it does depend which model to which is best to use
That is not a scientific test, just an FYI.
OK. I don't ride bikes, but your video was in my recommendations, and seemed interesting. I do service vintage devices, but it's vintage stereo equipment that I work with. All that said, this is one of the most compelling videos I've seen lately. Your delivery, your message, your tone, the choreographed moves of the oil filters, and the end message, everything is compelling. Well done, sir.
Target audience?
I'm 72 years old and since my first Mach 1 (351 Cleveland) 1972 vintage I've ALWAYS used Fram filters NEVER had a problem until i used a wix just once ,thank you very much for a FANTASTIC video can't ride anymore after my stroke 😢 but your the best
I wouldn’t have thought that you would have a problem with a Wix.
This is the first video of yours that I've seen. I was thoroughly impressed with your straightforward, no hype presentation. And, you certainly opened my eyes into the less than impressive construction of the motor company's filter. That's the last one of those I will ever buy. But most importantly, your personal encouragement to be kind to a stranger will stick with me. Thanks for taking the time to present this video and I'm now subscribed.
Immediately after watching this 5 days ago, I went straight to the link and bought 3 FRAM filters. They arrived today in perfect shape, they cost less than half of a K&N at Fortnine and they're better filters too. Can't beat that. If the seller didn't have a limit of three, I would have bought an even dozen. No harm in stocking up.
My mom always says to me when I'm leaving for work, "Do something nice for somebody today." I always try to make someone else's day just a little better than it was before I interacted with them.
I’ve owned 3 bikes years ago and I’m a car guy! Also now age 75. Your video is impressive and well done. Must have taken a lot of time to prepare those 3 filter samples.
Have you heard this phrase before?
“You cannot judge a book by it’s cover.”
Well done my friend 👍.
I very rarely comment on any TH-cam content but this is so well presented and has such a solid answer to skeptics it is refreshing. The end message is icing on this particular cake. Well done and well received.
Amazing video, I don't own a motorcycle and that Fram filter is amazing, just like the old Harley one. Sad that Harley has stooped to the low quality filter.
Last bike I owned was a '00 Ultra. Year 1= 4 stators. That's also the year a Harley rep asked me to leave a bike demo at a HOG rally because I gave poor reviews of how cheaply made the FLT faring was compared to the '89 I owned. Excellent video. Thanks for the info 👍
Great information! I’ll buy Fram from now on. What really impressed me, though, is your advice about doing something kind for a stranger. I could not agree more! Nothing makes us feel good like helping someone else. Just five seconds being kind to a stranger can make you walk taller all day!
Buy the good Fram, not the cheap Fram.
Fram makes various levels of qualitym
Excellent video. Great ending too. Used to sell Amsoil. I cut up a few filters as demos. OEMs were generally questionable Fram and Hastings were generally the best I could find. Think Hastings is now gone. Thanks for your efforts.
I just bought my first harley a week ago and just randomly found myself on this video and you sir have a subscriber. Great info, great moral message! Doing good work
Amazing the differences in OEM parts today as compared to earlier parts. I have always used Fram filters on my cars and trucks, now I will use them on my Harleys. Thank You very much for pointing out these differences in OEM and Aftermarket parts. 'Back in the Day', as folks are fond of saying, I used Nothing but H-D Oil and Fluids, along with the various filters, on all of my rides. Old Dogs can and do learn New Tricks!!
A Smile and or a Kind Word costs you nothing, but it can be the Best Gift that person gets for a while. I try to be Kind and Friendly no matter what or where. You never know what the other individual is going through, people tend to react in kind to Decent and Respectful Treatment. 'Give Respect and Get Respect' is a motto I try to live by. The Old Saying, 'Act like an Asshole, get Treated like One' is still powerful today. If someone is nasty to me, I try to be understanding and expect the same from others. The world can be a very beautiful place if you have the right Mind-Set. 'Attitude truly is Everything'.
Overall I think it was a fair and honest video with the information supplied, but there was some left out.
The differences in filter media.
1. The total square inches of filter media. The amount of surface area determines the amount of oil that can be filtered at once.
2. The size of particles that are filtered out. The HD twin cam filter (99 part number suffix) goes down to 5 microns. The Evo filter(77 part number suffix) only filters down to 30 microns.
3. By pass pressure rating. All spin on oil filters have some form of oil filtering by pass. It allows oil to by pass the filter if the filter gets to restrictive ot flow. Dirty oil is better than no oil. All spin on filters will do this way more than you want to think about.
4.is the filter capable of providing enough oil. A sportster with a twin cam oil filter will experience bottom end low or no pressure.
I personally would not put a Fram on my lawn mower let alone an expensive motorcycle. 20 years of working on American air cooled vtwins for my money has taught me. There is the exception to every rule, and you really do get to see it all.
Much like many things that were better in the old days Fram is one of them. H
@@TraceyAllen You can plainly see that HD is skimping on filter media because of all the space between the pleats. Add all the glue that's clogging the filter media, and I guess you get the picture.
As far as lawnmowers or motorcycles go, I don't have an opinion on the quality of Fram's oil filters. But for automobiles Fram makes some of the best on the market. The Ultra Synthetic is top notch.
@@snippits75 I’m glad that you have had good luck with fram filters. I’ve been a technician for 20 years, specifically working on Harleys, victory’s, excelsior henderson, buell , and Indian. I have never seen a stock/Oem oil filter that was properly installed, fail. I have seen several Frams. Not a big percentage of the total amount, but more than 0. The main failure point is that glue. The filter media will come loose and plug up the filter. Oil temps in air cooled motorcycles gets really hot, especially now when they are running so lean for emissions, like 275 to 350 degrees. Maybe more if you are in the south.
At the end of the day the biggest problem with any vehicle is the lack of any kind of maintenance. I’d rather see you regularly change your fram filter, than you neglecting a stock one for too long. Regular maintenance is the cheapest option.
I ride dirt and adventure bikes so have no idea how this ended up in my feed but god damn it I clicked anyway and stuck through to the end because it was informative with no fluff or fancy production. Also it may be late in the day but I’ll be sure to do something kind for a stranger in the next day or two.
Would love to see you do a collaboration with Project Farm. Your video was to the point, explained in laymen's terms and simultaneously thorough. Thank you for taking the time to do your research.
Have always fitted the Harley filter to customers bikes thinking we were offering the best we could, this has me questioning that choice.
Also really enjoyed your message at the end of the video, sure does feel good to be kind out there 👍
Buddy, you need to make more videos. We budget bikers that daily ride our bikes to work need your clear and calm information. Thank you for the video, thank you for being kind. Looking forward to more Harley related uploads.
Awesome video. Especially the message at the end! About 5 years ago, I began a daily commitment to do something kind for someone each and every day.
This was an truly inspirational Oil Filter comparison. Who would have thought an 'oil can' review could bring a tear to my eye? This one did, and I thank you for that.
That was probably just a gnat or something flew in there, like the one in mine right now😅
Dang gnats🥲
Much of the backlash against Fram filters goes back to the dissection of the economy Fram automotive filters that featured cardboard endcaps. I have not personally dissected the more upscale Fram Ultraguard filters, but I'm told they are well built. In any case, I was aware of the terrible design of the HD filters, and I've been running Fram on my Electra Glide for several years with no issues. Glad you brought this out to benefit the public.
After reading an article back in the 90's about Fram filters being used on performance engines I decided to try one and price was half that of an hd one. I've been using them on my 1990 evo ever since. Not one issue and no wet sumping
You won't notice an issue. It would just cause wear and tear on your engine and there's no way to really test for that.
Also 1990 was 30 years ago my dude. A lot of technology advancement has happened since then. It's foolish to get stuck in your ways.
@@dangerous8333 awful lot of irony in your ending statement.
The engine has well over 60,000 cable broke so not sure of actual mileage. Its only been apart once to replace base gaskets. Riden and abused so I'll continue using them
I am a ASE certified parts specialist and I want to thank Jay for the breakdown and information in this video. There are some parts available that can work for the application but are not the best choice. Personally I've seen it both ways better quality on discount or off brand parts than oem and oem superior to discount or off brand parts. long and short of my point is higher price or better reputation dose not guarantee best quality.
I have avoided Fram oil filters for years due their bad reputation, this changed my opinion. Good job, thank you.
Same here
Great video, I use K&N on my bike. They have a nut on the end that a 17mm fits, which makes it lots easier to take off; plus the drain plug is a 17mm as well. Good job Jay.
Thanks for that very intelligent information. You proved rite in front of all of HD owners.I got a 2004 Heritage classic with 99000 miles on it..No issues .which is best K +N or Fram..Bike never been on.a trailer..I feell 24 ft and shattered my shoulder and had a knee replacement by the VA...71 years old .Lotta therapy im riding just fine but not to Sturgis and so 150 mile out and back does me fine and i like riding by myself. God bless your ending statement...Thanks
K&N has went to the trash as well. Their filters were recently redesigned, and the quality is no longer there. The new filters no longer have the hex on the end, have a plastic interior core support, and a significantly lower quality of materials.
Even worse, I've found small pieces of steel left over from the stamping process inside several of the newer filters.
Most manufacturers don't include the hex head on the end as it encourages the less enlightened to screw the filter down with a wrench. Guaranteed to produce a leak and guaranteed to be interpreted as the manufacture making a defective part.
@@ericcsuf K&N did, and based on how its disappearance coincided with a significant decline in filter quality, I'd be willing to bet that it was eliminated for cost reasons, not because of people over tightening the filters.
@@johnfox3845 dats because HiFlo ain't making the K&N filters anymore... 😉
Really nice presentation. Fram used to make some really poor quality filters but they stepped up their game. They also make several grades of filters from basic to ultra premium.
Love the precision used to dismantle the HD cool-aid drinking group.
I feel the same way about Ducati branded stuff, like their oil.
The honesty in This video made me subscribe
I've been using Fram oil filters all my life on everything I have ever owned. Been a mechanic for over 40 years and even though I've put other brands on customer vehicles at their request, I won't short change my own equipment.
Mechanical engineer myself and appreciate your presentation.
I have been mechanic since 1976 and this is the best video about filters i have ever seen. Thank you for making this video.
This is the first video of yours I've seen. I must say it was very good. Nice how you got your point across very clearly & never even raised your voice or got rude. I don't use Fram filters usually (for me it's STP or K&N) but it was cool seeing the comparison. You got a subscriber. 😎🇺🇸👌
The ending is better than the beginning about we are all brothers and sisters, bleed red and be kind to each other! You knocked it out of the park bro 🙏🏻 peace & love and I love my 2 HD
Great video, Jay! So... Fram made the 1996 and earlier HD oil filters.. interesting. I think my 96' Evo Heritage will now be getting a Fram oil filter moving forward. I'm retired, been using Fram oil filters on my vehicles since 1974 and never had any problems. Currently, my 2002 5.3 Silverado with 366,000 miles using only Fram. Thanks for sharing 👍
Make sure you read Brawndo Meatapapoulos near the top on Evo vs TC filters having reverse flow!
Jay, I don't have a Harley, but I just bought a Vstrom and picked up a Fram spin-on oil filter at Wallymart for convivence for the first oil change. Your presentation, exposing the facts and message were all top notch. Thank you for the quality video.
Hey Verbal Widget, Get back in your lane with the rest of our v-strom bretheren. ..JK!! btw, I sold my HD Road-King and kept my V-Strom. lol seriously tho🤣
watched videos of oil filters for cars . fram worst filter on the market . watch dolittle fabrication he cuts open different brand filters .
Great job Jay! I'm in my 70's and have used Fram filters right along. I also ran a heavy equipment repair garage and used plenty of Fram filters there. The filters always performed as expected.
Right on JC! I started using Fram years ago on my 90 XL 883 Evo when HD kept $ increasing. Didn't know that Frams were made better, thanks. My Fram oil filter was always black. I actually wanted orange like Indian Larry ALWAYS used!
That's one of the best videos I've seen lately.
I like the fact that you took the time and effort to check for yourself something that would otherwise remain a mere speculation, or someone's opinion, and that you checked the old style Harley filter, to which the rest of us may not have access.
I also appreciate the message at the end.
Thank you for sharing.
My bike is black and orange. Fram filter matches my bike, LOL. Works just fine no issues. I’ve been using them for 30 years absolutely no problems. God bless.
Thank you Jay. Very well done and your advice at the end should be mandatory in life.
The best side by side comparison video I have seen on the subject. That alone would make me subscribe but you're appeal to treat each other with kindness really sealed the deal. Well done sir!
hey Jay, I like motorcycles, but don't own a Harley. I clicked on your video because of your appearance, you looked like a guy who is who he is and looks like a motorcycle mechanic. I enjoyed your presentation. I like the way you use your words and tell your perspective. I like your research. And thanks for the advice for my life. Appreciate you putting time and effort into making this video.
Really impressive video. The filters, the being kind.
I have been using K and N oil filters in my 04 Heritage. I looked at the box and they were made in Taiwan.
Now I want to take it apart and look inside.
You are a good man Jay.
The world is still full of kind people and you are an example of them.
Cheers from Ontario
Hi Jay! Excellent video my friend! First time viewer, now a new subscriber! Over 40 years as a mechanic. I have used nothing but fram oil filters on my own machines. For my customers I will always offer that. For the customers that want the oem filter, I am happy to give them what they want too.
As a professional mechanic that has run my solo shop over 35 years, your words at the end are truly the key to the best work life I could have ever imagined! I practice that everyday.
“Live the life you love, love the life you live” Bob Marley
Thanks for a real down to earth,informative video,no fluff,no crap,just real good advice.something really worth watching.
Excellent Jay, I have used fram for years and never had any problems, Im always amazed of the amount of people who think a Harley engine is so sensitive to oil and the filters those engines do not have super high tolerences they are not much more engineered then a horizointal shaft lawn mower engine and if they were machined to high tolerences they would not use 20w 50 oil now that being said that's why I love the evo and older harley engines becaouse they are very basic and easy to work on, thanks for taking the time to make this awesome video and the life advice which is very true everyone please in the words of David Allen Coe stop by and say Hello in there !
There is so much to love about this video. For me, reading the comments of those who "know" and then showing irrefutable evidence that they have been brainwashed gives me the warm and fuzzies. As I don't know Jay, this would be his kind act to me, a stranger.
I refer to this guys’ oil change video every time I change the oil in my bike. Changing my trans fluid to 75w-140 made a big difference in how my bike shifts.
Excellent presentation..I'm impressed although my 68 doesn't use a can filter, this is great info for the majority of riders out there.
I've always used Fram on all of my vehicles from work vans to motorcycles. I've never had any issues with any of the different models they offer. Great video!
Fram is the only filter I've bought for 45 50 years now never had a problem