I have used and recommended Fram oil filters for years. I don't need to watch the follow up video, I have known for a very long time that nearly everything about Harley Davidson motor cycles are foreign made. About as close as we come to American made is the assembly process, because even the frames are made in Canada, at least they used to be. Now a days they may be made in China. I know that's where that oil Filter was made. at least the new Harley Davidson filter was. I'm not sure if I remember what state the fram filter was made, but I'm thinking they're actually made in Wisconsin. But I'm not sure without looking that up. Great video and I absolutely loved your speech at the end. This all about me, me, me society is truly sickening. I wish you the best. Peace..
This is a real blow to the purist out there who are "I only use HD parts only." and definitely threw some egg on HD corporate's face. It's the way you handled it and your message at the end that stood out to me. Thanks for that.
I'm pretty sure HDs corporate face is just a broken egg at this point. Most of their products have been dissected and proven to be extremely low effort and low quality. They've historically had random periods of producing straight garbage because they can ride on reputation for while, then snap correcting once people catch on.
@@chrisclark6161 Sadly, I have experienced this first hand buying Harley parts/Accessories for my bike. I have now returned three (3) HD things I purchased for my bike in the past two years because of flawed workmanship/poor quality - but the price $$ was still premium Harley Davidson. No more, I've given up on them. I am convinced they were just Made in China imports with HD's logo. I mean, they really were Dollar Store quality. I will only buy non-HD after market now or do without. I am especially shocked and surprised at the oil filter here. No more HD filters for me. It has been obvious for a while now that HD is just a profit/greed company that only cares about the shareholders. It's sad to see that happen to what was once a company that really cared about its riding customers. If anyone here plays guitar, you will know that Gibson is now the same as HD in this respect. Low quality/max price and profit. 😒
@@VN9001 I only use after market parts on my Softail, and most of those are made in the USA. (most harley techs and mechanics do as well, even though they could get the HD branded stuff at a discount). The only think I get HD branded first if available is the electronic wiring harnesses, extensions, kits, etc. That stuff it is still made of great quality and better than most aftermarket. My bike is very far from stock, and the only thing that is HD branded is the Quick-detach mounting kit for my sissy bar. Everything else that is not stock, it is aftermarket. I buy performance upgrades from DKCustomProducts, and Handlebars, pegs, bags, risers, gloves, and more from Trashin' Supply Company. Both american small business, and parts manufactured in the USA of high quality. You get what you pay for, and HD (made in china) aint it.
I had a discussion with the parts guy in HD shop . He was adamant HD oil is the best for your motorcycle end of. I’m trying to tell him Harley oil is rebranded . It’s better than mobile 1 he kept saying. Wow wow wow. Maybe he’s been educated by Harley Davidson !!!!
I wasn't surprised, but maybe the box with the H-D logo will be a collectable item someday. Definitely a great conversation piece as well, I can hear the kids saying "...but daddy, why does it say "made in China?..."
As a heavy diesel mechanic ( and someone who has never owned a Harley), I have no idea why this showed up in my feed, but I found it very interesting. Doing something kind can be as simple as tapping a like button and leaving a comment to help a person out with the algorithm for talking time to share information like this.
I've been riding for 63 years. All makes and models. I've been using FRAM filters in all my cars, truck and bikes since the 1960's. I"VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY KIND! I agree with you 100%! And God Bless You on your "Be Kind to a Stranger" advice. The world needs more people like you!
Keeping a passion for riding that long is impressive. I just moved from biking on dirt to pavement and bought a Kawasaki 650 and I've been loving it. I wish we had more bikes in the US, it might help the visibility issue.
@@MagnusCrossNo, I'm not a wizard, just old. I was only commenting about my experience with FRAM filters. I often hear negative comments about FRAM filters and I was just sharing my "60+ years of experience" using them. Again, I've never had a failure. Peace.
I've been riding for 37 years, Harley-Davidsons for 26 of those years. One of the most irritating aspects of the biker community is the Fan Boys that are blindly loyal to one brand, one creed, one religion, etc, etc. I love this video & the way that you respectfully inform & educate for any that want to listen with an open mind. And, your message at the end about helping others is awesome. Thank you
This dude.... besides the great video and info, didn't ask for a like or subscribe, like absolutely everyone else does in every single video (I had done both on my own already at that point). That was nice. Then he goes on to give some genuinely great life advice that really can change the communities we live in, and made an effort to get you to really think about it. This is a good guy
This guy rocks! I laughed my head off when I visualized all the "experts" from the comment section watching this video! I fully support the last message!
Excellent video. As a 50 year motorcycle builder, rider, racer of many brands, you info on the filters is spot on. Also, you speak with kindness and that shows in your final comments. Ride safe.
I have been using Fram oil filters ONLY for the past 15 years of my 30+ Harley riding years & they NEVER let me down, NEVER had one problem with them! I work on all 3 of my Harleys myself and like it that way. That way I KNOW I got quality parts on my machines!!! It kills me when Harley riders I know with less years riding wanna think they know better. Thank you for proving this one point for me! AND great message at the end!!! Hope you have an AWESOME day!!!
This is definitely not me coming to this video after installing the new harley filter on my street glide just today. lol a day late and a dollar short. love your channel.
Well I just want to say someone who has been riding Harley-Davidson for many years I am shocked at the poor quality of that filter and I would really like to thank you for taking the time to show this to me and many others I will of course pass your content around and make sure everybody sees it because that is an absolute shocking situation with such an expensive part from Harley-Davidson and I hope someone from there is watching this and they realised that we have eyes as well as they do and I hope they can see exactly what we are seeing too and I hope they can make a simple decision and make a better oil filter thank you so so much it's very very much I am from Ireland so thank
@@nateryan7041 its been that way for a while. almost every company is not only like that....they are required by law to do so if they are a publicly traded company. there are no incentives to making something better
@@nateryan7041 I am not a HD owner, but as a Porsche owner I can tell you exactly the same shit happens, and with Ferrari… As my late dad used to say : the customer begs to be cheated! Much respect to Mr Case, daring to share this video with us. Thanks a lot from Marc, Belgium.
Dude. You rock . I love your ending. Nothing about motorcycles. Nothing about what we should do for you. You didn't say " subscribe " like the others. You said help someone. Do something for a stranger. I'm not religious. But bless you man . And by the way, all I use are Fram- on both my bikes . . 😎
I’ve been a mechanic for 37 years riding motorcycles even longer. I have to say information for these filters is unmistakably. Awesome thank you sir God bless you ride safe.
It just amazes me at how well this guy explains things. Unlike many TH-cam videos where the guy seems to be talking just to hear himself, every word that comes out of this guy’s mouth is valuable. He doesn’t waste any and he doesn’t waste your time. As a side comment, is it just me or does he just get better and better looking with every video. I love the longer hair the longer beard. You look awesome dude. Please don’t change that look.
@@willb1157 - I really dislike the TH-cam videos where the guy or gal speak so fast. Even if it is just the intro to the video. Then we have the ones who repeat themselves often, and use a lot of useless verbage like "you know", "uh", "um", "yeah", "huh", "like I said", etc.
I been using fram filters for about 35 years with no problems. I'm glad you made this video as I have often had this discussion with others who don't believe until they see for themselves. I am also aware there was a glut of fake fram filters going around for a while. I haven't seen any for about 5 years but it's easy to spot a fake and avoid it. Many manufacturers have fitted fram filters O.E.
@@Malibu1515 Well all can say is I have cut thousands of filters open and have seen the fake Fram filters first hand. I will check out project farm but I'm almost sure he did not but from a reputable dealer if he does have one of the poor quality filters. 35 years building engines and oil is high on the list of things that gets taken very seriously. What brand do you recommend?
Guess what folks Harley doesn't manufacture oil filters! They manufacture motorcycles and are in the business to make profit squeezing every dime! That's a fact...so they have the lowest bidder fill their oil filter contract. Fram or Purolator or someone else is making the filters anyway. That's just basic manufacturing sense. Don
@@Malibu1515 Been a Project Farm subscriber for ages, I have never seen a oil filter video/fram oil filter test nor can i find a video related to this on Project Farm. Are you possibly a line worker at the new/current HD filters? I have used Fram on my Audi a3 and a4 as well as my motorcycles without any issues. I have rebuilt countless bikes and cars in my spare time over the years.
Jay proves that buying any product based on brand name alone does not ensure top quality and he gave a clear and concise breakdown of all 3 filters to support his opinion. Great video!
This was the first video of yours I have seen. I really appreciate your no-bullshit, just the facts, science and logic forward presentation style and content. I did share with a few of my friends. I work in a motorcycle shop that works on anything-but-a-Harley and you have totally changed my opinion about what a smart and well spoken Haley person could be.
I'm retired from the business, never touched a Harley with a wrench, just many years of servicing Japanese and Spanish brands. I had an intuition about what this video was going to show and wasn't disappointed. So many opinions floating around out there and seeing some objective example to educate was well worth it.
Like the above poster stated, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. And I like the way you presented. Most content makers talk to much about nothing. Their channels have turned into infomercials. I am subscribing as soon as I finish tying this.
@@whalesong999 Bultaco, OSSA, Montessa, my three favorite classics. J Wood just auctioned off the contents of the Vintage Trail Bike Museum in Cheshire Massachusetts. It was sad because my friend had passed away and the museum was dissolved.
@@savage22bolt32 I got involved with Bultaco in 1961, first units came through Bultaco Western in California. Later on took machines from Cemoto East headed by John Taylor who eventually began importing OSSA and took them on as well. I won two medals in the Berkshire Trials on my OSSA Pioneer, a silver in 1970. They were satisfying machines, stable and rugged, quite different from the other two makes.
I'm the furthest thing from a Harley guy but I can totally appreciate what you did here and especially the message at the end of the video. Random acts of kindness definitely goes a long way. Liked and Subscribed. Continue spreading the positivity! 👍👌🙏
I'm not surprised at these results as I used to work for wix filters and we made the oil filters for nearly every brand you see on the shelf including AC Delco, Mopar, Ford and Fram. Back then Fram filters were made with better components and were much higher quality than even the OEM filters we made. Fram set their standards higher and were a bit of a pain to make because of those standards but I've used them ever since with no regrets and even paid more for them knowing I was getting a higher quality part. It's nice to know that they haven't lowered their standards over the years like some manufacturers have.
@@choltzapple Frams bad reputation is from knock off products being sold, Always Check that your source for filters is a registered Fram Agent! if they get it from some reseller then usually its a fake
This guy is pretty good but would love to see other filters in thd test. trucks cost a fortune and million mile motors and you dont use Fram for a reason bmw an Mercedes are the same Allison transmission uses a WIX for a reason. Chev use to use them, now the fuel and transmission filters now are cheap junk made in china at twice the price.. Bob the oil guy is a very good source.
I've used ONLY Fram since I started driving 35 years ago. Never had a problem, never leaked. My car is a 2006 Sienna with 302,000 miles. NEVER a problem! Still runs like new, gets the same mileage it ever has. Thanks Fram!
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen! I remember a few years back, people started running down Fram filters and many more jumped on that bandwagon. I have never had any problems with Fram oil filters, and never witnessed anyone else having any problems either. I was always suspicious of all of the anti-Fram claims. Here's some good evidence that my suspicions were correct. I would be willling to bet that it is not just Harley Davidson that is skimping on parts either. There is good reason to believe that many OEM parts are not as good as name brand aftermarket parts. Who knows who even makes OEM parts anyways? The manufacturers sure aren't going to tell you. One thing you can count on though is this: OEM service parts (like filters and tune up parts) are made by the lowest bidder that could meet the minimum specifications. The only thing Fram makes is filters. They have a lot more to lose if it found that thier filters consistantly fail than Harley Davidson or Ford does if filters with their names on them consistantly failed. People consider HD a motorcycle manufacturer, and Ford an auto manufacturer. Most people wouldn't judge an entire bike or car by the OEM filter, even if it failed. They would just say something like "It's a good machine, it just had a bad filter." If the same thing happened with a Fram filter, they would say "Fram filters are junk."
All very true, but when you deal with as many oil sample testing results that utilize Rotating Disc Electrode (RDE) and Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) tests to determine particle size as i have over the years you get a sense of the difference between say a Fram's vs a WIX's filter media and to me thats where the rubber meets the road. I've had crappy chinesium two dollar filters outperform Fram but shockingly come very very close to WIX in ability. I'll be honest though, i dont see many Fram results anymore because mostly everything i touch is WIX equipped so Fram may have picked it up quite a few notches over the past 7 years...
There is not good reason to believe that aftermarket parts are better than OEM, because that's just not true. I've been restoring cars for 25 years now and it really depends on what car/motorcycle maker you're talking about. For instance, OEM Yamaha and Honda parts, and I'm talking specifically about my motorcycles, are just as good if not better than aftermarket parts. The same was always true about my German vehicles. Harley-Davidson on the other hand is known for trying to rip off their customers. So it's pretty far fetched to use this example and apply it across the board.
@@gmctech Chinesium is a term for Chinese products that are made out of low quality Chinese metal. Not paper filters. It comes from putting the word Chinese in front of magnesium. Yes, the filter is encased in metal but that's not the same thing.
@Dan Gerous WRONG MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, IT'S BASICALLY AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BLANKET TERM! From the the web!..... "Chinesium is a made up element, not found on the periodic table, which was invented as a blanket term for every cheap material (metal, plastic, ceramic) originating from China, manufactured at a low quality to decrease production costs and to maximize profits."
Jay, thank you for taking the time to educate a lot of folks on the quality of filters. I'm 60 years old and grew up working on my own vehicles. Almost every parts store you went into showed cut filters. Usually it was Fram vs. Wix. The Fram always looked very cheaply made, while the Wix looked very well put together. I believe that has stuck in the minds of a lot of folks. I am very glad that you made this video, showing the quality of Fram nowadays. I will certainly keep that in mind when changing the oil on my bike. I especially want to thank you for the very special and inspirational ending of your video. Far too many folks have gotten away from that thinking. I do believe that what you have said can make a huge difference. Hopefully, folks will take your advice! Again, many thanks!
@@jcassociates8198 Depending on how much you spend and application, Fram filters are from very cheaply made to Very well made i use Fram Racing diesel oil filters on my truck... they're just below Cat filters without being a stupendously tall housing. and they beat Fleetguard cummins filters. not to mention they're less than half the price of the cummins filter which is about 80 dollars and the cat filter thats about 100-120 i already have to buy 240 dollars worth of oil every oil change which is every 3500 miles. or 200 hours. why would i spend money on a oil filter thats supposed to last 3-4 times longer than my oil change interval and its over double the price. 32 dollars vs 80-120
In other videos the Fram filters, at least for cars had cardboard endcaps instead of the metal endcaps like the filter in this video. When you spent more money on the higher priced Fram filters with full synthetic filtering media it was then the metal endcaps showed back up.
My mom always says to me when I'm leaving for work, "Do something nice for somebody today." I always try to make someone else's day just a little better than it was before I interacted with them.
Thank you for doing this kind video for us strangers. Your logic and argumentation line is bullet proof. Looking forward to the video about the manufacturing at home . Ride safe 🤙
Amazing the differences in OEM parts today as compared to earlier parts. I have always used Fram filters on my cars and trucks, now I will use them on my Harleys. Thank You very much for pointing out these differences in OEM and Aftermarket parts. 'Back in the Day', as folks are fond of saying, I used Nothing but H-D Oil and Fluids, along with the various filters, on all of my rides. Old Dogs can and do learn New Tricks!! A Smile and or a Kind Word costs you nothing, but it can be the Best Gift that person gets for a while. I try to be Kind and Friendly no matter what or where. You never know what the other individual is going through, people tend to react in kind to Decent and Respectful Treatment. 'Give Respect and Get Respect' is a motto I try to live by. The Old Saying, 'Act like an Asshole, get Treated like One' is still powerful today. If someone is nasty to me, I try to be understanding and expect the same from others. The world can be a very beautiful place if you have the right Mind-Set. 'Attitude truly is Everything'.
Overall I think it was a fair and honest video with the information supplied, but there was some left out. The differences in filter media. 1. The total square inches of filter media. The amount of surface area determines the amount of oil that can be filtered at once. 2. The size of particles that are filtered out. The HD twin cam filter (99 part number suffix) goes down to 5 microns. The Evo filter(77 part number suffix) only filters down to 30 microns. 3. By pass pressure rating. All spin on oil filters have some form of oil filtering by pass. It allows oil to by pass the filter if the filter gets to restrictive ot flow. Dirty oil is better than no oil. All spin on filters will do this way more than you want to think about. 4.is the filter capable of providing enough oil. A sportster with a twin cam oil filter will experience bottom end low or no pressure. I personally would not put a Fram on my lawn mower let alone an expensive motorcycle. 20 years of working on American air cooled vtwins for my money has taught me. There is the exception to every rule, and you really do get to see it all. Much like many things that were better in the old days Fram is one of them. H
@@TraceyAllen You can plainly see that HD is skimping on filter media because of all the space between the pleats. Add all the glue that's clogging the filter media, and I guess you get the picture. As far as lawnmowers or motorcycles go, I don't have an opinion on the quality of Fram's oil filters. But for automobiles Fram makes some of the best on the market. The Ultra Synthetic is top notch.
@@snippits75 I’m glad that you have had good luck with fram filters. I’ve been a technician for 20 years, specifically working on Harleys, victory’s, excelsior henderson, buell , and Indian. I have never seen a stock/Oem oil filter that was properly installed, fail. I have seen several Frams. Not a big percentage of the total amount, but more than 0. The main failure point is that glue. The filter media will come loose and plug up the filter. Oil temps in air cooled motorcycles gets really hot, especially now when they are running so lean for emissions, like 275 to 350 degrees. Maybe more if you are in the south. At the end of the day the biggest problem with any vehicle is the lack of any kind of maintenance. I’d rather see you regularly change your fram filter, than you neglecting a stock one for too long. Regular maintenance is the cheapest option.
Further reinforces the fact (not idea, but fact) that most motorcyclists, despite their rough outer appearance, are some of the nicest people you'll ever come across in your life. Case and point with Jay in this video. Thank you for opening our eyes to the reality of the situation, as even with as trivial as an oil filter may be to some. Anything that helps another live life a little easier and aids in doing what they enjoy should be championed, needless to say. I'm looking forward to more vids from you!
I try to do something kind for strangers multiple times a day, even if it's as simple as waiting to hold the door for someone behind me. But I must admit that I do this for selfish reasons, my day is always brighter when those around me are happy and smiling. Being kind almost always gets a heartfelt smile from a stranger.
I’ve always used fram and never had issues in fact my last car had 450,000 miles when I sold it so obviously fram filters work and work well. Great video
@@openroadtrucking6562 Did you watch the video? I've sent new Wix filters back on more than one occasion due to poor workmanship. Every application is different. Product quality from most major brands is not the same across the board. I've seen the videos where Fram looks awful. This video shows the opposite. And in one of my applications Wix has sucked consistently. That said, it probably would have worked fine. I've never seen or heard of an engine failure from a cheap oil filter and it doesn't look like HD is concerned about it either.
@@LikelyCandidate Agree wouldnt touch a wix filter seen them fall apart on numerous occasions i generally use Purflux filters but depends on the engine i am fitting them to as it does depend which model to which is best to use
Great information! I’ll buy Fram from now on. What really impressed me, though, is your advice about doing something kind for a stranger. I could not agree more! Nothing makes us feel good like helping someone else. Just five seconds being kind to a stranger can make you walk taller all day!
Nicely done Jay. I'm a retired designer from HD and I've always used the Fram filter. Now maybe because of your video they might become more difficult to find. Don't know. Good job comparing and showing the inside. Thanks for doing the video. Unfortunately some will stand on that hill claiming that HD is better. I'll continue using the Fram filter and ride with confidence and think of it as a piece of art. Thanks for the advise at the end of the video. Yep, your advise can make a HUGE impact on someone life and you might not even know it.
Immediately after watching this 5 days ago, I went straight to the link and bought 3 FRAM filters. They arrived today in perfect shape, they cost less than half of a K&N at Fortnine and they're better filters too. Can't beat that. If the seller didn't have a limit of three, I would have bought an even dozen. No harm in stocking up.
Good information, thanks man. After 42 years of riding I now own my first HD. You just showed me something that I needed to see. And I'm not shocked at all.
Hey bud, you are so right. Not only should more people think like you, but also have the courage to state how they feel. I live by the saying ( the love you withold, is the pain you will carry from lifetime to lifetime) We are all brothers and sisters. Love you.
This is the best research video I have ever watched. This puts the Fram doubters in place and I love your easy laid back video with great information that was spot on. You did a great job and will do something for a stranger. Thank you.
Fram fffers different budget categories, you don't want the cheapest you'll get better quality at other brands at the same price. Go for their Mid and specially the Upper tier they are one of the best.
I just bought my first harley a week ago and just randomly found myself on this video and you sir have a subscriber. Great info, great moral message! Doing good work
My bike is black and orange. Fram filter matches my bike, LOL. Works just fine no issues. I’ve been using them for 30 years absolutely no problems. God bless.
I am a ASE certified parts specialist and I want to thank Jay for the breakdown and information in this video. There are some parts available that can work for the application but are not the best choice. Personally I've seen it both ways better quality on discount or off brand parts than oem and oem superior to discount or off brand parts. long and short of my point is higher price or better reputation dose not guarantee best quality.
I very rarely comment on any TH-cam content but this is so well presented and has such a solid answer to skeptics it is refreshing. The end message is icing on this particular cake. Well done and well received.
I'm 72 years old and since my first Mach 1 (351 Cleveland) 1972 vintage I've ALWAYS used Fram filters NEVER had a problem until i used a wix just once ,thank you very much for a FANTASTIC video can't ride anymore after my stroke 😢 but your the best
Thanks for the video, I've been telling my bros this for years. HD has changed for years, AMF bought them out then they bought it back and made a comeback. But over the years it went downhill again. Fram filters are good I use them for everything. I'm an Idaho farm boy and I know what fails and what don't from experience. I don't just blindly buy shit for the logo. I've been a motorhead all my life, before I ever owned an HD. I won't go into detail but over the years I learned from men much older than I about filters and oil and I don't want to go off into the weeds doing pro-mos. But I can tell you I have used Fram filters on everything and never attributed a problem to Fram. Oil ad well I have used oil brands that so called Harley experts said will "burn up my engine" and I'm still riding my same scooter today after 30 years.
They never really recovered from the corporate AMF take over days. Harley likes to skimp on parts you might never see like BEARINGS! Harley keeps a lot of aftermarket parts manufactures in business like S&S and K&N and many many others. You pay for quality, but you get scammed. Best thing to do is a get a stock 2002 Dyna or something for cheap and immediately rebuild it with aftermarket quality parts.
@@Nine_883 I agree, I always take it apart and take the part I need in to a trusted parts supplier and see if they can match it. Most of the time they will be able to get it from a quality manufacturer for half the price or better, and it will be much greater quality. That goes for most vehicles and equipment as well.
@@Nine_883 well if it wasnt for AMF they would be just another marque for companies like bombardier, people can criticize amf but amf kept harley from disappearring. and unfortunately harley is going backwards and is consumed with baggers and screw the small guy.
You are SO Right; we are all brothers and sisters and we can change the trajectory of our world through ongoing intentional acts of kindness to random strangers! And thank you for Fram / Harley reveal!
Thanks friend a video with a great message. The world needs more people like you. You made someone's day brighter. And yes the oil filter info was also good
This is the first video of yours that I've seen. I was thoroughly impressed with your straightforward, no hype presentation. And, you certainly opened my eyes into the less than impressive construction of the motor company's filter. That's the last one of those I will ever buy. But most importantly, your personal encouragement to be kind to a stranger will stick with me. Thanks for taking the time to present this video and I'm now subscribed.
I’ve never hesitated to use Fram filters for my bikes, small engines or vehicles. If you dig deep enough I honestly think every manufacturer has a bad day sometimes and can have a failure. If Fram had so much failures and was so bad, they wouldn’t be in business anymore. Thanks for posting this brother.
After an oil change with a Fram on my Small block I had valve noise. Thought I had ruined my engine. Read up on Frams on the internet and found the can have issues maintaining pressure. Put on a NAPA gold and it disappeared. Used a Fram on my truck one winter and it developed a valve tick till it was fully up to temp. Changed back to an AC filter and the tick was gone.
Hello Jay, just want you to now , i really followed your advice. „Do something good for others“ Because you really touched my soul. Thank you for this. Greez from A Swiss guy.
I've been using Fram oil filters all my life on everything I have ever owned. Been a mechanic for over 40 years and even though I've put other brands on customer vehicles at their request, I won't short change my own equipment.
This was an truly inspirational Oil Filter comparison. Who would have thought an 'oil can' review could bring a tear to my eye? This one did, and I thank you for that.
Have always fitted the Harley filter to customers bikes thinking we were offering the best we could, this has me questioning that choice. Also really enjoyed your message at the end of the video, sure does feel good to be kind out there 👍
Hey Brother. Im retired from the Military. Had to go to Michigan and try and let them teach me to be a civilian again. Were they successful? Ehh... One thing they did introduce me to was Albert Ellis. Your advise in the video is spot on with his development of REBT back in the day. Ive shared to the one who shares with all. Its getting to all the bikers I know. Keep the good work up and keep drivin on. Were not in Kansas anymore. Peace out!
I love you closing statements about being kind to a stranger. As a matter of fact that is part of my life and who I am. I only wish more people would adopt this philosophy on a larger scale. Then like you stated, we would watch this world transform right before our eyes.
Right on brother Jay, I like your style. I was a HD technician for a dealership a long time ago. I stopped working for them in 2005. My passion was building horsepower and engines. I got sick of bolting skull and flame derby and inspection covers onto yuppies motorcycles. OCC and other fictional television shows drew a massive amount of R.U.B.S. rich urban bikers to the scene. In my opinion ruining what reputation us original outcasts had built. Suddenly noodle arm yuppies living in gated communities had the illusion they were bad asses. I'm doing much better now that I'm not working in a fancy multi million dollar building making $15/hour that was a long time ago. Now when I go to bike week I can clearly see that the scene still hasn't changed. With plenty of W.H.O.R.E.' s we haul our rides everywhere!! Thanks for the life changing tip. I do like to pass it forward when I can. Thanks brother Jay
That's one of the best videos I've seen lately. I like the fact that you took the time and effort to check for yourself something that would otherwise remain a mere speculation, or someone's opinion, and that you checked the old style Harley filter, to which the rest of us may not have access. I also appreciate the message at the end. Thank you for sharing.
Last bike I owned was a '00 Ultra. Year 1= 4 stators. That's also the year a Harley rep asked me to leave a bike demo at a HOG rally because I gave poor reviews of how cheaply made the FLT faring was compared to the '89 I owned. Excellent video. Thanks for the info 👍
Amazing. This is what real research is all about. It’s pure public service! This a slap on the face of blind obedience to brands and faith in profit only oriented decision on part of manufacturers. Knowledge is never too much. Thank you for taking the time to help others understand that a intelligent consumer must always research and not blindly trust marketing BS (and never comment without fact checking).
After reading an article back in the 90's about Fram filters being used on performance engines I decided to try one and price was half that of an hd one. I've been using them on my 1990 evo ever since. Not one issue and no wet sumping
You won't notice an issue. It would just cause wear and tear on your engine and there's no way to really test for that. Also 1990 was 30 years ago my dude. A lot of technology advancement has happened since then. It's foolish to get stuck in your ways.
The engine has well over 60,000 cable broke so not sure of actual mileage. Its only been apart once to replace base gaskets. Riden and abused so I'll continue using them
Much of the backlash against Fram filters goes back to the dissection of the economy Fram automotive filters that featured cardboard endcaps. I have not personally dissected the more upscale Fram Ultraguard filters, but I'm told they are well built. In any case, I was aware of the terrible design of the HD filters, and I've been running Fram on my Electra Glide for several years with no issues. Glad you brought this out to benefit the public.
Hi Jay! Excellent video my friend! First time viewer, now a new subscriber! Over 40 years as a mechanic. I have used nothing but fram oil filters on my own machines. For my customers I will always offer that. For the customers that want the oem filter, I am happy to give them what they want too. As a professional mechanic that has run my solo shop over 35 years, your words at the end are truly the key to the best work life I could have ever imagined! I practice that everyday. “Live the life you love, love the life you live” Bob Marley
I've used fram on all my bikes and never had one issue with any fram filter. With any filter...change them when your supposed to. Fram is a good product...has been for me. Great video brother!
Iv'e used FRAM filters for years without any issues what so ever. I appreciate your video and taking time to explain the difference between quality and junk. Excellent breakdown of internals and design differences. Old school is usually always better made. Thank-You Jay for confirming what most of us old school guys already know! If it isn't broke don't try and fix it!
@@dangerous8333 You can buy oil filter cutters that open up to various sized oil filters and they work like a giant brake line cutter using a roller and a round cutting blade almost like a can opener has and they are designed this way so it leaves no metal shavings when cutting open the filters which you can see this guy used on here for these filters by the size of the cut and how clean if a cut it made . Once the filter is cut open you can look at the filter pleats and in between for dirt carbon or metal shavings to determine if the filter is doing its job or not or by seeing how dirty the engine is if it's not had regular oil and filter changes . I build race engines at times and after I take the engine in to have it run heat cycled and broke in on a engine Dyno then cooled down and started to break the engine in by doing pulls to break the cam in if it's a flat tappet and to seat the rings which the Dyno tech can tell when the rings are seated by looking at the charts that are made after each pull once the engine is broke in and the Dyno tuned for max torque and HP once that's done I take the engine back to the shop and cut the oil filter open to see what it looks like which your going to have some small amounts of metal shavings from break in but it's the big chunks of metal shavings you don't want because that means something isn't good either incorrect machining or ring gaps and crank journal bearing clearances were done wrong . Another method is sending the oil out to have it analyzed for it's content of particles and how good the oil actually is but costs some money and time . K&N makes a very good oil filter that has a removable fine mesh screen inside that you can take out to wash it clean and inspect the screen and it filters out to lower microns than any paper element oil filter you can buy From Frame , Wix and so fourth . The other thing about the K&N is it has magnets on the outside of the canister that helps pull any metal shavings to the side of the filter screen to keep the metal particles from recirculating through the engine again . They aren't cheap but they work very good and can be washed out at each oil change so technically it's a lifetime washable oil filter and if it's a vehicle you plan on driving for some years and doing your own oil and filter changes that K&N filter will pay for itself in the end by filtering oil better and by you washing the filter out each time and not having to buy a new oil filter each time.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 To be honest I've never used them but they are probably made by WIX or some other oil filter company that prints Moroso on them . About the only thing a guy could do is cut one open to look inside and see how well it's made and how good the filter is that they use . I'm willing to bet that most of our oil filters are now made in China except for a few and if it's anything like the China quality I've seen it's piss poor . The thing I like about the K&N is that it can be taken apart and cleaned out and reassembled and used over and over plus that lets you actually see what's being trapped by the filter like metal shavings or chunks of carbon or sludge plus they filter down to much smaller particulates so they filter much better .
@@peteloomis8456 I think I will pass on a the re usable oil filter for now I used ones by Moroso and other companies decades ago and they were handy for racing yet not something I would run on the street. The only company I am aware of that actually manufacturers their own oil filters in their own filter plant would be Cat Diesel. The good Wix filters are made in Mexico and I own a Moroso filter cutting tool and inspect every filter. Other good ones are made in Japan or Taiwan. Hopefully we see more filters being USA made soon that would be great.
Harley definitely went from bad to worse. Had a horrendous experience with Harley this last summer, getting rid of both of my Harleys. They can continue to flounder and disappear into obscurity for all I care. Edit: Also, thank you for the solid video and the good life advice at the end, Oil Filter Jesus.
hey Jay, I like motorcycles, but don't own a Harley. I clicked on your video because of your appearance, you looked like a guy who is who he is and looks like a motorcycle mechanic. I enjoyed your presentation. I like the way you use your words and tell your perspective. I like your research. And thanks for the advice for my life. Appreciate you putting time and effort into making this video.
Amazing video, I don't own a motorcycle and that Fram filter is amazing, just like the old Harley one. Sad that Harley has stooped to the low quality filter.
I’ve owned 3 bikes years ago and I’m a car guy! Also now age 75. Your video is impressive and well done. Must have taken a lot of time to prepare those 3 filter samples. Have you heard this phrase before? “You cannot judge a book by it’s cover.” Well done my friend 👍.
Great job Jay! I'm in my 70's and have used Fram filters right along. I also ran a heavy equipment repair garage and used plenty of Fram filters there. The filters always performed as expected.
OK. I don't ride bikes, but your video was in my recommendations, and seemed interesting. I do service vintage devices, but it's vintage stereo equipment that I work with. All that said, this is one of the most compelling videos I've seen lately. Your delivery, your message, your tone, the choreographed moves of the oil filters, and the end message, everything is compelling. Well done, sir.
There is so much to love about this video. For me, reading the comments of those who "know" and then showing irrefutable evidence that they have been brainwashed gives me the warm and fuzzies. As I don't know Jay, this would be his kind act to me, a stranger.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I am impressed and subscribed. Thanks for putting this info out for anyone willing to look for it. I'm going to do two things today. First will be to go out and buy the Fram filter for my next oil change and second, will be to do something nice for a stranger. Thanks again.
This is awesome, thank you so much. You have just confirmed what I have always suspected is that recently Harley parts are of poorer quality and I suspect that they are made or subcontracted to cheaper poor quality makers abroad for the love of pro$it. when I bought my FLSTC from a friend of mine he had a HD oil filter I wanted to replace it but it was about $40.00 where I live so I did some research and end up buying FRAM and have been using them ever since , got 57,000 miles so on my ride changing oil every 2000 +/- without any problems. Thank you
Thanks for the way you handled this video on every level, not shaming or being Derogatory to the people who left original comments, but were informative and straight forward, but the end message earned you a subscriber.
Thank you Jay. I get so sick of people telling me i have to use Harley products. You just confirmed my thoughts. I am now a subscriber to your channel. Thank you again.
Right on JC! I started using Fram years ago on my 90 XL 883 Evo when HD kept $ increasing. Didn't know that Frams were made better, thanks. My Fram oil filter was always black. I actually wanted orange like Indian Larry ALWAYS used!
This is awesome. Back in the 90s Fram was considered top shelf for car oil filters, these days they have a poor rep. It's great to see that Fram kept high quality with these Harley filters. I admit at first I had assumed Fram would have looked worse than the new Harley one and I am happily surprised to see that's not the case. Shame about the Harley one thou. Thanks for being you! Stay kind, and I've subbed.
youre mistaken, its actually the opposite. back in the day, fram had issues. theyve been spot on for 20 years now so long as youre not a total cheapskate and buy the cheapest turd they make.
@@OxBlitzkriegxO Yes. The more expensive Fram filters meant for longer time intervals with synthetic oil are better. For myself I've settled with the Purolator Boss filter for a couple of my cars. It's meant for longer oil change intervals and it has the better quality filtering media. Although I don't use to the mileage that it can go to. I wanted the better filtering media.
I refer to this guys’ oil change video every time I change the oil in my bike. Changing my trans fluid to 75w-140 made a big difference in how my bike shifts.
I’ve always been a fram guy. Before anyone ever argued oil filter quality fram was constantly improving design. I’m so glad you did this analysis and confirmed my expectations. I’d use a fram on my bike without hesitation. They’ve never ever caused me a moment trouble, and that’s all I ask from a product. Work right, do the job, and don’t cause problems.
Isn’t it a damn shame that our experiences over the long haul have us almost begging manufacturers to produce things that simply “…work right, do the job, and don’t cause problems”?!? Things we have a right to expect from manufacturers. It’s a damn shame.
Check out part 2 of this video here: th-cam.com/video/yD12gsczM5o/w-d-xo.html
Already did... went right to it. I can only imagine the work & time that goes into making something like that. Soldier on. Oyeah impressive! FLH58
I have used and recommended Fram oil filters for years. I don't need to watch the follow up video, I have known for a very long time that nearly everything about Harley Davidson motor cycles are foreign made. About as close as we come to American made is the assembly process, because even the frames are made in Canada, at least they used to be. Now a days they may be made in China. I know that's where that oil Filter was made. at least the new Harley Davidson filter was. I'm not sure if I remember what state the fram filter was made, but I'm thinking they're actually made in Wisconsin. But I'm not sure without looking that up. Great video and I absolutely loved your speech at the end. This all about me, me, me society is truly sickening. I wish you the best. Peace..
Thanks oil jesus
Well I know what filter I will use on my 1996 Evo, But what oil would you recommend for the 1996 Stock motor.
Maan! I love your song Dead and buried! Why did you switch to reviews of filters!?
This is a real blow to the purist out there who are "I only use HD parts only." and definitely threw some egg on HD corporate's face. It's the way you handled it and your message at the end that stood out to me. Thanks for that.
I'm pretty sure HDs corporate face is just a broken egg at this point. Most of their products have been dissected and proven to be extremely low effort and low quality. They've historically had random periods of producing straight garbage because they can ride on reputation for while, then snap correcting once people catch on.
@@chrisclark6161 Sadly, I have experienced this first hand buying Harley parts/Accessories for my bike. I have now returned three (3) HD things I purchased for my bike in the past two years because of flawed workmanship/poor quality - but the price $$ was still premium Harley Davidson. No more, I've given up on them. I am convinced they were just Made in China imports with HD's logo. I mean, they really were Dollar Store quality. I will only buy non-HD after market now or do without. I am especially shocked and surprised at the oil filter here. No more HD filters for me. It has been obvious for a while now that HD is just a profit/greed company that only cares about the shareholders. It's sad to see that happen to what was once a company that really cared about its riding customers. If anyone here plays guitar, you will know that Gibson is now the same as HD in this respect. Low quality/max price and profit. 😒
@@VN9001 I only use after market parts on my Softail, and most of those are made in the USA. (most harley techs and mechanics do as well, even though they could get the HD branded stuff at a discount). The only think I get HD branded first if available is the electronic wiring harnesses, extensions, kits, etc. That stuff it is still made of great quality and better than most aftermarket. My bike is very far from stock, and the only thing that is HD branded is the Quick-detach mounting kit for my sissy bar. Everything else that is not stock, it is aftermarket. I buy performance upgrades from DKCustomProducts, and Handlebars, pegs, bags, risers, gloves, and more from Trashin' Supply Company. Both american small business, and parts manufactured in the USA of high quality. You get what you pay for, and HD (made in china) aint it.
I had a discussion with the parts guy in HD shop . He was adamant HD oil is the best for your motorcycle end of. I’m trying to tell him Harley oil is rebranded . It’s better than mobile 1 he kept saying. Wow wow wow. Maybe he’s been educated by Harley Davidson !!!!
@@VN9001 guitar player here and yes. Also I own Gibson’s so I’m not a hater. Lot of “misses” not as many “hits”
For me the surprise wasn't that Fram makes good filters, it was that the HD filter was so bad. Thanks for a great video Jay.
Ya because when you compare Fram to all the rest, Fram sucks....except when compared with HD.
@@Malibu1515 Thanks for your input. I value your opinion as you value Fram.
Have a great day.
@@Malibu1515 only the cheap ones, they make two levels of filter i believe.
I wasn't surprised, but maybe the box with the H-D logo will be a collectable item someday. Definitely a great conversation piece as well, I can hear the kids saying "...but daddy, why does it say "made in China?..."
Apparently, you don't research parts.
Blows my mind that you have 21k subs with only 13 videos....I wish there were more. I appreciate your approach.
As a heavy diesel mechanic ( and someone who has never owned a Harley), I have no idea why this showed up in my feed, but I found it very interesting. Doing something kind can be as simple as tapping a like button and leaving a comment to help a person out with the algorithm for talking time to share information like this.
Damn. I've never seen someone drop mic so brutally calm.
It was great!
He’s the Jesus Christ of Harley Davidson. His demeanor is very enlightening. I wish I had that.
Demonstration by example. Wise and kind words, no hostility or mocking. You sir just gained another follower!
I've been riding for 63 years. All makes and models. I've been using FRAM filters in all my cars, truck and bikes since the 1960's. I"VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE OF ANY KIND! I agree with you 100%! And God Bless You on your "Be Kind to a Stranger" advice. The world needs more people like you!
63 years?! Wow, you must be a wizard.
He started at 6 years old with a full dresser, and worked his way up from there 😂
I was born in 1946. Got my first bike (scooter...Cushman Eagle) 1960. I was 14.
Keeping a passion for riding that long is impressive. I just moved from biking on dirt to pavement and bought a Kawasaki 650 and I've been loving it. I wish we had more bikes in the US, it might help the visibility issue.
@@MagnusCrossNo, I'm not a wizard, just old. I was only commenting about my experience with FRAM filters. I often hear negative comments about FRAM filters and I was just sharing my "60+ years of experience" using them. Again, I've never had a failure. Peace.
I've been riding for 37 years, Harley-Davidsons for 26 of those years. One of the most irritating aspects of the biker community is the Fan Boys that are blindly loyal to one brand, one creed, one religion, etc, etc. I love this video & the way that you respectfully inform & educate for any that want to listen with an open mind. And, your message at the end about helping others is awesome. Thank you
There is a word for people like you if that all it takes to irritate you. Petty
This dude.... besides the great video and info, didn't ask for a like or subscribe, like absolutely everyone else does in every single video (I had done both on my own already at that point). That was nice.
Then he goes on to give some genuinely great life advice that really can change the communities we live in, and made an effort to get you to really think about it. This is a good guy
Jay, you just gkt yourself another follower. Cant wait for the next videos content. Thank you very kindly sir.
This guy rocks!
I laughed my head off when I visualized all the "experts" from the comment section watching this video!
I fully support the last message!
Excellent video. As a 50 year motorcycle builder, rider, racer of many brands, you info on the filters is spot on. Also, you speak with kindness and that shows in your final comments. Ride safe.
Well Said Friend, Well Said.
What nice human being. We need more people like you! This way of kindness is the way I was raised, I’m 70 years old, nice to see it still exists.
One thing I learned, You are a good man!
I have been using Fram oil filters ONLY for the past 15 years of my 30+ Harley riding years & they NEVER let me down, NEVER had one problem with them! I work on all 3 of my Harleys myself and like it that way. That way I KNOW I got quality parts on my machines!!! It kills me when Harley riders I know with less years riding wanna think they know better. Thank you for proving this one point for me! AND great message at the end!!! Hope you have an AWESOME day!!!
This is definitely not me coming to this video after installing the new harley filter on my street glide just today. lol a day late and a dollar short. love your channel.
Well I just want to say someone who has been riding Harley-Davidson for many years I am shocked at the poor quality of that filter and I would really like to thank you for taking the time to show this to me and many others I will of course pass your content around and make sure everybody sees it because that is an absolute shocking situation with such an expensive part from Harley-Davidson and I hope someone from there is watching this and they realised that we have eyes as well as they do and I hope they can see exactly what we are seeing too and I hope they can make a simple decision and make a better oil filter thank you so so much it's very very much I am from Ireland so thank
How can ANY Harley fan be surprised at over-priced for the quality pricing?
you are a fool if you think harley will change...it was done to make more money. period. thats all they care about
Some of the parts are just ridiculously priced !! I think who ever is running Harley right now there only concern is money not customer satisfaction!!
@@nateryan7041 its been that way for a while. almost every company is not only like that....they are required by law to do so if they are a publicly traded company. there are no incentives to making something better
@@nateryan7041 I am not a HD owner, but as a Porsche owner I can tell you exactly the same shit happens, and with Ferrari… As my late dad used to say : the customer begs to be cheated! Much respect to Mr Case, daring to share this video with us. Thanks a lot from Marc, Belgium.
Dude. You rock . I love your ending. Nothing about motorcycles. Nothing about what we should do for you. You didn't say " subscribe " like the others. You said help someone. Do something for a stranger. I'm not religious. But bless you man . And by the way, all I use are Fram- on both my bikes . . 😎
I’ve been a mechanic for 37 years riding motorcycles even longer. I have to say information for these filters is unmistakably. Awesome thank you sir God bless you ride safe.
It just amazes me at how well this guy explains things. Unlike many TH-cam videos where the guy seems to be talking just to hear himself, every word that comes out of this guy’s mouth is valuable. He doesn’t waste any and he doesn’t waste your time. As a side comment, is it just me or does he just get better and better looking with every video. I love the longer hair the longer beard. You look awesome dude. Please don’t change that look.
He speaks without rush, and I much prefer this. The info is stated and enunciated in a way my brain retains. Brilliant for some of us.
@@willb1157 - I really dislike the TH-cam videos where the guy or gal speak so fast. Even if it is just the intro to the video. Then we have the ones who repeat themselves often, and use a lot of useless verbage like "you know", "uh", "um", "yeah", "huh", "like I said", etc.
@@willb1157 He'd be an excellent leader / teacher ~
Excellent video. I didn’t even know I was going to watch the whole thing. I will do something kind for a stranger, I think.
I been using fram filters for about 35 years with no problems. I'm glad you made this video as I have often had this discussion with others who don't believe until they see for themselves. I am also aware there was a glut of fake fram filters going around for a while. I haven't seen any for about 5 years but it's easy to spot a fake and avoid it. Many manufacturers have fitted fram filters O.E.
@@Malibu1515 Well all can say is I have cut thousands of filters open and have seen the fake Fram filters first hand. I will check out project farm but I'm almost sure he did not but from a reputable dealer if he does have one of the poor quality filters. 35 years building engines and oil is high on the list of things that gets taken very seriously. What brand do you recommend?
Guess what folks Harley doesn't manufacture oil filters! They manufacture motorcycles and are in the business to make profit squeezing every dime! That's a fact...so they have the lowest bidder fill their oil filter contract. Fram or Purolator or someone else is making the filters anyway. That's just basic manufacturing sense. Don
@@Malibu1515 Been a Project Farm subscriber for ages, I have never seen a oil filter video/fram oil filter test nor can i find a video related to this on Project Farm.
Are you possibly a line worker at the new/current HD filters? I have used Fram on my Audi a3 and a4 as well as my motorcycles without any issues. I have rebuilt countless bikes and cars in my spare time over the years.
Jay proves that buying any product based on brand name alone does not ensure top quality and he gave a clear and concise breakdown of all 3 filters to support his opinion.
Great video!
This was the first video of yours I have seen. I really appreciate your no-bullshit, just the facts, science and logic forward presentation style and content. I did share with a few of my friends.
I work in a motorcycle shop that works on anything-but-a-Harley and you have totally changed my opinion about what a smart and well spoken Haley person could be.
I'm retired from the business, never touched a Harley with a wrench, just many years of servicing Japanese and Spanish brands. I had an intuition about what this video was going to show and wasn't disappointed. So many opinions floating around out there and seeing some objective example to educate was well worth it.
Like the above poster stated, this is the first video of yours I have ever seen. And I like the way you presented.
Most content makers talk to much about nothing. Their channels have turned into infomercials. I am subscribing as soon as I finish tying this.
@@whalesong999 Bultaco, OSSA, Montessa, my three favorite classics.
J Wood just auctioned off the contents of the Vintage Trail Bike Museum in Cheshire Massachusetts. It was sad because my friend had passed away and the museum was dissolved.
@@rickyhawkins7407 and no shifty background music either!
@@savage22bolt32 I got involved with Bultaco in 1961, first units came through Bultaco Western in California. Later on took machines from Cemoto East headed by John Taylor who eventually began importing OSSA and took them on as well. I won two medals in the Berkshire Trials on my OSSA Pioneer, a silver in 1970. They were satisfying machines, stable and rugged, quite different from the other two makes.
After listening to thi until the very end I can say with confidence, this man is a gentleman and a scholar.
Wow…..what an awsome guy. Not only alot of knowledge but he also seems to be a great guy👍
I'm the furthest thing from a Harley guy but I can totally appreciate what you did here and especially the message at the end of the video. Random acts of kindness definitely goes a long way. Liked and Subscribed. Continue spreading the positivity! 👍👌🙏
I'm not surprised at these results as I used to work for wix filters and we made the oil filters for nearly every brand you see on the shelf including AC Delco, Mopar, Ford and Fram. Back then Fram filters were made with better components and were much higher quality than even the OEM filters we made. Fram set their standards higher and were a bit of a pain to make because of those standards but I've used them ever since with no regrets and even paid more for them knowing I was getting a higher quality part. It's nice to know that they haven't lowered their standards over the years like some manufacturers have.
In the automotive world at least, Fram has earned their reputation for making terrible filters.
@@choltzapple people always say that, but I've never seen anyone have any evidence to back it up.
@@choltzapple Frams bad reputation is from knock off products being sold, Always Check that your source for filters is a registered Fram Agent! if they get it from some reseller then usually its a fake
This guy is pretty good but would love to see other filters in thd test. trucks cost a fortune and million mile motors and you dont use Fram for a reason bmw an Mercedes are the same Allison transmission uses a WIX for a reason. Chev use to use them, now the fuel and transmission filters now are cheap junk made in china at twice the price.. Bob the oil guy is a very good source.
@@clybrown cardboard for the filter element and rust inside them brand new
I've used ONLY Fram since I started driving 35 years ago.
Never had a problem, never leaked.
My car is a 2006 Sienna with 302,000 miles.
NEVER a problem!
Still runs like new, gets the same mileage it ever has.
Thanks Fram!
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen! I remember a few years back, people started running down Fram filters and many more jumped on that bandwagon. I have never had any problems with Fram oil filters, and never witnessed anyone else having any problems either. I was always suspicious of all of the anti-Fram claims. Here's some good evidence that my suspicions were correct. I would be willling to bet that it is not just Harley Davidson that is skimping on parts either. There is good reason to believe that many OEM parts are not as good as name brand aftermarket parts. Who knows who even makes OEM parts anyways? The manufacturers sure aren't going to tell you. One thing you can count on though is this: OEM service parts (like filters and tune up parts) are made by the lowest bidder that could meet the minimum specifications. The only thing Fram makes is filters. They have a lot more to lose if it found that thier filters consistantly fail than Harley Davidson or Ford does if filters with their names on them consistantly failed. People consider HD a motorcycle manufacturer, and Ford an auto manufacturer. Most people wouldn't judge an entire bike or car by the OEM filter, even if it failed. They would just say something like "It's a good machine, it just had a bad filter." If the same thing happened with a Fram filter, they would say "Fram filters are junk."
All very true, but when you deal with as many oil sample testing results that utilize Rotating Disc Electrode (RDE) and Inductively Coupled Plasma (ICP) tests to determine particle size as i have over the years you get a sense of the difference between say a Fram's vs a WIX's filter media and to me thats where the rubber meets the road. I've had crappy chinesium two dollar filters outperform Fram but shockingly come very very close to WIX in ability. I'll be honest though, i dont see many Fram results anymore because mostly everything i touch is WIX equipped so Fram may have picked it up quite a few notches over the past 7 years...
There is not good reason to believe that aftermarket parts are better than OEM, because that's just not true. I've been restoring cars for 25 years now and it really depends on what car/motorcycle maker you're talking about.
For instance, OEM Yamaha and Honda parts, and I'm talking specifically about my motorcycles, are just as good if not better than aftermarket parts. The same was always true about my German vehicles.
Harley-Davidson on the other hand is known for trying to rip off their customers.
So it's pretty far fetched to use this example and apply it across the board.
@@gmctech Chinesium is a term for Chinese products that are made out of low quality Chinese metal. Not paper filters. It comes from putting the word Chinese in front of magnesium.
Yes, the filter is encased in metal but that's not the same thing.
@Dan Gerous WRONG MR. KNOW-IT-ALL, IT'S BASICALLY AN ALL ENCOMPASSING BLANKET TERM! From the the web!..... "Chinesium is a made up element, not found on the periodic table, which was invented as a blanket term for every cheap material (metal, plastic, ceramic) originating from China, manufactured at a low quality to decrease production costs and to maximize profits."
Jay, thank you for taking the time to educate a lot of folks on the quality of filters. I'm 60 years old and grew up working on my own vehicles. Almost every parts store you went into showed cut filters. Usually it was Fram vs. Wix. The Fram always looked very cheaply made, while the Wix looked very well put together. I believe that has stuck in the minds of a lot of folks. I am very glad that you made this video, showing the quality of Fram nowadays. I will certainly keep that in mind when changing the oil on my bike. I especially want to thank you for the very special and inspirational ending of your video. Far too many folks have gotten away from that thinking. I do believe that what you have said can make a huge difference. Hopefully, folks will take your advice! Again, many thanks!
Every one is different, The car ones are alot cheaper made than the New one for the Harley.
@@jcassociates8198 Depending on how much you spend and application, Fram filters are from very cheaply made to Very well made i use Fram Racing diesel oil filters on my truck... they're just below Cat filters without being a stupendously tall housing. and they beat Fleetguard cummins filters. not to mention they're less than half the price of the cummins filter which is about 80 dollars and the cat filter thats about 100-120 i already have to buy 240 dollars worth of oil every oil change which is every 3500 miles. or 200 hours. why would i spend money on a oil filter thats supposed to last 3-4 times longer than my oil change interval and its over double the price. 32 dollars vs 80-120
@@justnsaliga8518 Maybe I will give fram a try on my 2001 cummins 5.9
In other videos the Fram filters, at least for cars had cardboard endcaps instead of the metal endcaps like the filter in this video. When you spent more money on the higher priced Fram filters with full synthetic filtering media it was then the metal endcaps showed back up.
I have used Fram on every motor I have ever owned. Never had a single issue. Been doing this since my first motorcycle in 1983. Not one issue EVER.
Best advice for anyone. Especially when you’re fighting depression, do something for someone else, you’d be surprised how it changes your life.
You just landed another new subscriber. Not just for the information but also way you pass it on. Thanks! Kindness is infectious!
Same for me too. What a great video and presenter.
My mom always says to me when I'm leaving for work, "Do something nice for somebody today." I always try to make someone else's day just a little better than it was before I interacted with them.
Fram is the only filter I've bought for 45 50 years now never had a problem
Thank you for doing this kind video for us strangers. Your logic and argumentation line is bullet proof.
Looking forward to the video about the manufacturing at home .
Ride safe 🤙
I'm so glad you did this deconstruction video. I hope you changed some minds.
I’m not a motorcycle guy and I have no idea how this showed up for me but think this guy should be everywhere!
Amazing the differences in OEM parts today as compared to earlier parts. I have always used Fram filters on my cars and trucks, now I will use them on my Harleys. Thank You very much for pointing out these differences in OEM and Aftermarket parts. 'Back in the Day', as folks are fond of saying, I used Nothing but H-D Oil and Fluids, along with the various filters, on all of my rides. Old Dogs can and do learn New Tricks!!
A Smile and or a Kind Word costs you nothing, but it can be the Best Gift that person gets for a while. I try to be Kind and Friendly no matter what or where. You never know what the other individual is going through, people tend to react in kind to Decent and Respectful Treatment. 'Give Respect and Get Respect' is a motto I try to live by. The Old Saying, 'Act like an Asshole, get Treated like One' is still powerful today. If someone is nasty to me, I try to be understanding and expect the same from others. The world can be a very beautiful place if you have the right Mind-Set. 'Attitude truly is Everything'.
Overall I think it was a fair and honest video with the information supplied, but there was some left out.
The differences in filter media.
1. The total square inches of filter media. The amount of surface area determines the amount of oil that can be filtered at once.
2. The size of particles that are filtered out. The HD twin cam filter (99 part number suffix) goes down to 5 microns. The Evo filter(77 part number suffix) only filters down to 30 microns.
3. By pass pressure rating. All spin on oil filters have some form of oil filtering by pass. It allows oil to by pass the filter if the filter gets to restrictive ot flow. Dirty oil is better than no oil. All spin on filters will do this way more than you want to think about.
4.is the filter capable of providing enough oil. A sportster with a twin cam oil filter will experience bottom end low or no pressure.
I personally would not put a Fram on my lawn mower let alone an expensive motorcycle. 20 years of working on American air cooled vtwins for my money has taught me. There is the exception to every rule, and you really do get to see it all.
Much like many things that were better in the old days Fram is one of them. H
@@TraceyAllen You can plainly see that HD is skimping on filter media because of all the space between the pleats. Add all the glue that's clogging the filter media, and I guess you get the picture.
As far as lawnmowers or motorcycles go, I don't have an opinion on the quality of Fram's oil filters. But for automobiles Fram makes some of the best on the market. The Ultra Synthetic is top notch.
@@snippits75 I’m glad that you have had good luck with fram filters. I’ve been a technician for 20 years, specifically working on Harleys, victory’s, excelsior henderson, buell , and Indian. I have never seen a stock/Oem oil filter that was properly installed, fail. I have seen several Frams. Not a big percentage of the total amount, but more than 0. The main failure point is that glue. The filter media will come loose and plug up the filter. Oil temps in air cooled motorcycles gets really hot, especially now when they are running so lean for emissions, like 275 to 350 degrees. Maybe more if you are in the south.
At the end of the day the biggest problem with any vehicle is the lack of any kind of maintenance. I’d rather see you regularly change your fram filter, than you neglecting a stock one for too long. Regular maintenance is the cheapest option.
Further reinforces the fact (not idea, but fact) that most motorcyclists, despite their rough outer appearance, are some of the nicest people you'll ever come across in your life. Case and point with Jay in this video. Thank you for opening our eyes to the reality of the situation, as even with as trivial as an oil filter may be to some. Anything that helps another live life a little easier and aids in doing what they enjoy should be championed, needless to say. I'm looking forward to more vids from you!
I try to do something kind for strangers multiple times a day, even if it's as simple as waiting to hold the door for someone behind me. But I must admit that I do this for selfish reasons, my day is always brighter when those around me are happy and smiling. Being kind almost always gets a heartfelt smile from a stranger.
I’ve always used fram and never had issues in fact my last car had 450,000 miles when I sold it so obviously fram filters work and work well. Great video
Many videos on Fram Oil Filters on TH-cam, Do your own research. K&N for me.
@@openroadtrucking6562 Did you watch the video? I've sent new Wix filters back on more than one occasion due to poor workmanship. Every application is different. Product quality from most major brands is not the same across the board. I've seen the videos where Fram looks awful. This video shows the opposite. And in one of my applications Wix has sucked consistently. That said, it probably would have worked fine. I've never seen or heard of an engine failure from a cheap oil filter and it doesn't look like HD is concerned about it either.
@@LikelyCandidate Agree wouldnt touch a wix filter seen them fall apart on numerous occasions i generally use Purflux filters but depends on the engine i am fitting them to as it does depend which model to which is best to use
That is not a scientific test, just an FYI.
Great information! I’ll buy Fram from now on. What really impressed me, though, is your advice about doing something kind for a stranger. I could not agree more! Nothing makes us feel good like helping someone else. Just five seconds being kind to a stranger can make you walk taller all day!
Buy the good Fram, not the cheap Fram.
Fram makes various levels of qualitym
I have avoided Fram oil filters for years due their bad reputation, this changed my opinion. Good job, thank you.
Same here
Nicely done Jay. I'm a retired designer from HD and I've always used the Fram filter. Now maybe because of your video they might become more difficult to find. Don't know. Good job comparing and showing the inside. Thanks for doing the video. Unfortunately some will stand on that hill claiming that HD is better. I'll continue using the Fram filter and ride with confidence and think of it as a piece of art. Thanks for the advise at the end of the video. Yep, your advise can make a HUGE impact on someone life and you might not even know it.
Immediately after watching this 5 days ago, I went straight to the link and bought 3 FRAM filters. They arrived today in perfect shape, they cost less than half of a K&N at Fortnine and they're better filters too. Can't beat that. If the seller didn't have a limit of three, I would have bought an even dozen. No harm in stocking up.
Good information, thanks man. After 42 years of riding I now own my first HD. You just showed me something that I needed to see. And I'm not shocked at all.
This video rules! Jay seems like a total stand up guy. Hilarious, informative and absolutely right about all of it..especially kindness:)
Such a wholesome guy and a really in depth breakdown of the filters
Hey bud, you are so right. Not only should more people think like you, but also have the courage to state how they feel. I live by the saying ( the love you withold, is the pain you will carry from lifetime to lifetime)
We are all brothers and sisters. Love you.
This is the best research video I have ever watched. This puts the Fram doubters in place and I love your easy laid back video with great information that was spot on. You did a great job and will do something for a stranger. Thank you.
Fram fffers different budget categories, you don't want the cheapest you'll get better quality at other brands at the same price. Go for their Mid and specially the Upper tier they are one of the best.
I just bought my first harley a week ago and just randomly found myself on this video and you sir have a subscriber. Great info, great moral message! Doing good work
My bike is black and orange. Fram filter matches my bike, LOL. Works just fine no issues. I’ve been using them for 30 years absolutely no problems. God bless.
I am a ASE certified parts specialist and I want to thank Jay for the breakdown and information in this video. There are some parts available that can work for the application but are not the best choice. Personally I've seen it both ways better quality on discount or off brand parts than oem and oem superior to discount or off brand parts. long and short of my point is higher price or better reputation dose not guarantee best quality.
I very rarely comment on any TH-cam content but this is so well presented and has such a solid answer to skeptics it is refreshing. The end message is icing on this particular cake. Well done and well received.
I'm 72 years old and since my first Mach 1 (351 Cleveland) 1972 vintage I've ALWAYS used Fram filters NEVER had a problem until i used a wix just once ,thank you very much for a FANTASTIC video can't ride anymore after my stroke 😢 but your the best
I wouldn’t have thought that you would have a problem with a Wix.
I subscribed juts because of "your life changing advice." Respects, Rocky
Thanks for the video, I've been telling my bros this for years. HD has changed for years, AMF bought them out then they bought it back and made a comeback. But over the years it went downhill again. Fram filters are good I use them for everything. I'm an Idaho farm boy and I know what fails and what don't from experience. I don't just blindly buy shit for the logo. I've been a motorhead all my life, before I ever owned an HD. I won't go into detail but over the years I learned from men much older than I about filters and oil and I don't want to go off into the weeds doing pro-mos. But I can tell you I have used Fram filters on everything and never attributed a problem to Fram. Oil ad well I have used oil brands that so called Harley experts said will "burn up my engine" and I'm still riding my same scooter today after 30 years.
MBA's destroy all QUALITY, for profits.
They never really recovered from the corporate AMF take over days. Harley likes to skimp on parts you might never see like BEARINGS! Harley keeps a lot of aftermarket parts manufactures in business like S&S and K&N and many many others. You pay for quality, but you get scammed. Best thing to do is a get a stock 2002 Dyna or something for cheap and immediately rebuild it with aftermarket quality parts.
@@Nine_883 I agree, I always take it apart and take the part I need in to a trusted parts supplier and see if they can match it. Most of the time they will be able to get it from a quality manufacturer for half the price or better, and it will be much greater quality. That goes for most vehicles and equipment as well.
@@Nine_883 well if it wasnt for AMF they would be just another marque for companies like bombardier, people can criticize amf but amf kept harley from disappearring. and unfortunately harley is going backwards and is consumed with baggers and screw the small guy.
… as a Harley owner I am convinced the company’s passion is not bikes ( at least any more) , it’s money ❤️👀
You are SO Right; we are all brothers and sisters and we can change the trajectory of our world through ongoing intentional acts of kindness to random strangers! And thank you for Fram / Harley reveal!
Thanks friend a video with a great message. The world needs more people like you. You made someone's day brighter. And yes the oil filter info was also good
No wonder every time I look for a FRAM they're none on the shelf. So I go to WiXX oil filters. When u see a Fram. STOCK UP!! GREAT VIDEO 👍🏼
This is the first video of yours that I've seen. I was thoroughly impressed with your straightforward, no hype presentation. And, you certainly opened my eyes into the less than impressive construction of the motor company's filter. That's the last one of those I will ever buy. But most importantly, your personal encouragement to be kind to a stranger will stick with me. Thanks for taking the time to present this video and I'm now subscribed.
I’ve never hesitated to use Fram filters for my bikes, small engines or vehicles. If you dig deep enough I honestly think every manufacturer has a bad day sometimes and can have a failure. If Fram had so much failures and was so bad, they wouldn’t be in business anymore. Thanks for posting this brother.
Fram are pretty terrible, but at least they are consistent.
After an oil change with a Fram on my Small block I had valve noise. Thought I had ruined my engine. Read up on Frams on the internet and found the can have issues maintaining pressure. Put on a NAPA gold and it disappeared. Used a Fram on my truck one winter and it developed a valve tick till it was fully up to temp. Changed back to an AC filter and the tick was gone.
Hello Jay, just want you to now , i really followed your advice. „Do something good for others“ Because you really touched my soul. Thank you for this. Greez from A Swiss guy.
Thx!
I've been using Fram oil filters all my life on everything I have ever owned. Been a mechanic for over 40 years and even though I've put other brands on customer vehicles at their request, I won't short change my own equipment.
This was an truly inspirational Oil Filter comparison. Who would have thought an 'oil can' review could bring a tear to my eye? This one did, and I thank you for that.
That was probably just a gnat or something flew in there, like the one in mine right now😅
Dang gnats🥲
Would be interested in seeing a comparison between Fram And K&N oil filters
Have always fitted the Harley filter to customers bikes thinking we were offering the best we could, this has me questioning that choice.
Also really enjoyed your message at the end of the video, sure does feel good to be kind out there 👍
I have been mechanic since 1976 and this is the best video about filters i have ever seen. Thank you for making this video.
Hey Brother. Im retired from the Military. Had to go to Michigan and try and let them teach me to be a civilian again. Were they successful? Ehh... One thing they did introduce me to was Albert Ellis. Your advise in the video is spot on with his development of REBT back in the day. Ive shared to the one who shares with all. Its getting to all the bikers I know. Keep the good work up and keep drivin on. Were not in Kansas anymore. Peace out!
I love you closing statements about being kind to a stranger. As a matter of fact that is part of my life and who I am.
I only wish more people would adopt this philosophy on a larger scale. Then like you stated, we would watch this world transform right before our eyes.
Right on brother Jay, I like your style. I was a HD technician for a dealership a long time ago. I stopped working for them in 2005. My passion was building horsepower and engines. I got sick of bolting skull and flame derby and inspection covers onto yuppies motorcycles. OCC and other fictional television shows drew a massive amount of R.U.B.S. rich urban bikers to the scene. In my opinion ruining what reputation us original outcasts had built. Suddenly noodle arm yuppies living in gated communities had the illusion they were bad asses. I'm doing much better now that I'm not working in a fancy multi million dollar building making $15/hour that was a long time ago. Now when I go to bike week I can clearly see that the scene still hasn't changed. With plenty of W.H.O.R.E.' s we haul our rides everywhere!! Thanks for the life changing tip. I do like to pass it forward when I can. Thanks brother Jay
Wow man, just wow. Random acts of kindness is exactly what will turn the tide. Thanks for this video
That's one of the best videos I've seen lately.
I like the fact that you took the time and effort to check for yourself something that would otherwise remain a mere speculation, or someone's opinion, and that you checked the old style Harley filter, to which the rest of us may not have access.
I also appreciate the message at the end.
Thank you for sharing.
Last bike I owned was a '00 Ultra. Year 1= 4 stators. That's also the year a Harley rep asked me to leave a bike demo at a HOG rally because I gave poor reviews of how cheaply made the FLT faring was compared to the '89 I owned. Excellent video. Thanks for the info 👍
Amazing. This is what real research is all about. It’s pure public service! This a slap on the face of blind obedience to brands and faith in profit only oriented decision on part of manufacturers. Knowledge is never too much. Thank you for taking the time to help others understand that a intelligent consumer must always research and not blindly trust marketing BS (and never comment without fact checking).
After reading an article back in the 90's about Fram filters being used on performance engines I decided to try one and price was half that of an hd one. I've been using them on my 1990 evo ever since. Not one issue and no wet sumping
You won't notice an issue. It would just cause wear and tear on your engine and there's no way to really test for that.
Also 1990 was 30 years ago my dude. A lot of technology advancement has happened since then. It's foolish to get stuck in your ways.
@@dangerous8333 awful lot of irony in your ending statement.
The engine has well over 60,000 cable broke so not sure of actual mileage. Its only been apart once to replace base gaskets. Riden and abused so I'll continue using them
Much of the backlash against Fram filters goes back to the dissection of the economy Fram automotive filters that featured cardboard endcaps. I have not personally dissected the more upscale Fram Ultraguard filters, but I'm told they are well built. In any case, I was aware of the terrible design of the HD filters, and I've been running Fram on my Electra Glide for several years with no issues. Glad you brought this out to benefit the public.
Hi Jay! Excellent video my friend! First time viewer, now a new subscriber! Over 40 years as a mechanic. I have used nothing but fram oil filters on my own machines. For my customers I will always offer that. For the customers that want the oem filter, I am happy to give them what they want too.
As a professional mechanic that has run my solo shop over 35 years, your words at the end are truly the key to the best work life I could have ever imagined! I practice that everyday.
“Live the life you love, love the life you live” Bob Marley
Awesome video. Especially the message at the end! About 5 years ago, I began a daily commitment to do something kind for someone each and every day.
I've used fram on all my bikes and never had one issue with any fram filter. With any filter...change them when your supposed to. Fram is a good product...has been for me. Great video brother!
Iv'e used FRAM filters for years without any issues what so ever. I appreciate your video and taking time to explain the difference between quality and junk. Excellent breakdown of internals and design differences. Old school is usually always better made. Thank-You Jay for confirming what most of us old school guys already know! If it isn't broke don't try and fix it!
@@dangerous8333 You can buy oil filter cutters that open up to various sized oil filters and they work like a giant brake line cutter using a roller and a round cutting blade almost like a can opener has and they are designed this way so it leaves no metal shavings when cutting open the filters which you can see this guy used on here for these filters by the size of the cut and how clean if a cut it made . Once the filter is cut open you can look at the filter pleats and in between for dirt carbon or metal shavings to determine if the filter is doing its job or not or by seeing how dirty the engine is if it's not had regular oil and filter changes . I build race engines at times and after I take the engine in to have it run heat cycled and broke in on a engine Dyno then cooled down and started to break the engine in by doing pulls to break the cam in if it's a flat tappet and to seat the rings which the Dyno tech can tell when the rings are seated by looking at the charts that are made after each pull once the engine is broke in and the Dyno tuned for max torque and HP once that's done I take the engine back to the shop and cut the oil filter open to see what it looks like which your going to have some small amounts of metal shavings from break in but it's the big chunks of metal shavings you don't want because that means something isn't good either incorrect machining or ring gaps and crank journal bearing clearances were done wrong . Another method is sending the oil out to have it analyzed for it's content of particles and how good the oil actually is but costs some money and time . K&N makes a very good oil filter that has a removable fine mesh screen inside that you can take out to wash it clean and inspect the screen and it filters out to lower microns than any paper element oil filter you can buy From Frame , Wix and so fourth . The other thing about the K&N is it has magnets on the outside of the canister that helps pull any metal shavings to the side of the filter screen to keep the metal particles from recirculating through the engine again . They aren't cheap but they work very good and can be washed out at each oil change so technically it's a lifetime washable oil filter and if it's a vehicle you plan on driving for some years and doing your own oil and filter changes that K&N filter will pay for itself in the end by filtering oil better and by you washing the filter out each time and not having to buy a new oil filter each time.
@@peteloomis8456 So what are your thoughts on Moroso filters ? Thanks
@@sswcustomsewing4276 To be honest I've never used them but they are probably made by WIX or some other oil filter company that prints Moroso on them . About the only thing a guy could do is cut one open to look inside and see how well it's made and how good the filter is that they use . I'm willing to bet that most of our oil filters are now made in China except for a few and if it's anything like the China quality I've seen it's piss poor . The thing I like about the K&N is that it can be taken apart and cleaned out and reassembled and used over and over plus that lets you actually see what's being trapped by the filter like metal shavings or chunks of carbon or sludge plus they filter down to much smaller particulates so they filter much better .
@@peteloomis8456 I think I will pass on a the re usable oil filter for now I used ones by Moroso and other companies decades ago and they were handy for racing yet not something I would run on the street. The only company I am aware of that actually manufacturers their own oil filters in their own filter plant would be Cat Diesel. The good Wix filters are made in Mexico and I own a Moroso filter cutting tool and inspect every filter. Other good ones are made in Japan or Taiwan. Hopefully we see more filters being USA made soon that would be great.
Harley definitely went from bad to worse. Had a horrendous experience with Harley this last summer, getting rid of both of my Harleys. They can continue to flounder and disappear into obscurity for all I care. Edit: Also, thank you for the solid video and the good life advice at the end, Oil Filter Jesus.
hey Jay, I like motorcycles, but don't own a Harley. I clicked on your video because of your appearance, you looked like a guy who is who he is and looks like a motorcycle mechanic. I enjoyed your presentation. I like the way you use your words and tell your perspective. I like your research. And thanks for the advice for my life. Appreciate you putting time and effort into making this video.
Amazing video, I don't own a motorcycle and that Fram filter is amazing, just like the old Harley one. Sad that Harley has stooped to the low quality filter.
I’ve owned 3 bikes years ago and I’m a car guy! Also now age 75. Your video is impressive and well done. Must have taken a lot of time to prepare those 3 filter samples.
Have you heard this phrase before?
“You cannot judge a book by it’s cover.”
Well done my friend 👍.
Great job Jay! I'm in my 70's and have used Fram filters right along. I also ran a heavy equipment repair garage and used plenty of Fram filters there. The filters always performed as expected.
OK. I don't ride bikes, but your video was in my recommendations, and seemed interesting. I do service vintage devices, but it's vintage stereo equipment that I work with. All that said, this is one of the most compelling videos I've seen lately. Your delivery, your message, your tone, the choreographed moves of the oil filters, and the end message, everything is compelling. Well done, sir.
Target audience?
There is so much to love about this video. For me, reading the comments of those who "know" and then showing irrefutable evidence that they have been brainwashed gives me the warm and fuzzies. As I don't know Jay, this would be his kind act to me, a stranger.
This is the first of your videos I've seen and I am impressed and subscribed.
Thanks for putting this info out for anyone willing to look for it.
I'm going to do two things today. First will be to go out and buy the Fram filter for my next oil change and second, will be to do something nice for a stranger.
Thanks again.
This is awesome, thank you so much. You have just confirmed what I have always suspected is that recently Harley parts are of poorer quality and I suspect that they are made or subcontracted to cheaper poor quality makers abroad for the love of pro$it. when I bought my FLSTC from a friend of mine he had a HD oil filter I wanted to replace it but it was about $40.00 where I live so I did some research and end up buying FRAM and have been using them ever since , got 57,000 miles so on my ride changing oil every 2000 +/- without any problems.
Thank you
Thanks for the way you handled this video on every level, not shaming or being Derogatory to the people who left original comments, but were informative and straight forward, but the end message earned you a subscriber.
Thank you Jay. I get so sick of people telling me i have to use Harley products. You just confirmed my thoughts. I am now a subscriber to your channel. Thank you again.
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I don't ride much with others. But I'd ride with you
The honesty in This video made me subscribe
Thank you for helping once more break blind habit of following name brand instead of doing your homework and so many commented on.
Right on JC! I started using Fram years ago on my 90 XL 883 Evo when HD kept $ increasing. Didn't know that Frams were made better, thanks. My Fram oil filter was always black. I actually wanted orange like Indian Larry ALWAYS used!
This is awesome. Back in the 90s Fram was considered top shelf for car oil filters, these days they have a poor rep. It's great to see that Fram kept high quality with these Harley filters. I admit at first I had assumed Fram would have looked worse than the new Harley one and I am happily surprised to see that's not the case. Shame about the Harley one thou. Thanks for being you! Stay kind, and I've subbed.
youre mistaken, its actually the opposite. back in the day, fram had issues. theyve been spot on for 20 years now so long as youre not a total cheapskate and buy the cheapest turd they make.
@@OxBlitzkriegxO Yes. The more expensive Fram filters meant for longer time intervals with synthetic oil are better. For myself I've settled with the Purolator Boss filter for a couple of my cars. It's meant for longer oil change intervals and it has the better quality filtering media. Although I don't use to the mileage that it can go to. I wanted the better filtering media.
I refer to this guys’ oil change video every time I change the oil in my bike. Changing my trans fluid to 75w-140 made a big difference in how my bike shifts.
I’ve always been a fram guy. Before anyone ever argued oil filter quality fram was constantly improving design. I’m so glad you did this analysis and confirmed my expectations. I’d use a fram on my bike without hesitation. They’ve never ever caused me a moment trouble, and that’s all I ask from a product. Work right, do the job, and don’t cause problems.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love......
Isn’t it a damn shame that our experiences over the long haul have us almost begging manufacturers to produce things that simply “…work right, do the job, and don’t cause problems”?!? Things we have a right to expect from manufacturers.
It’s a damn shame.
@@billhouchens7439 You can thank our politicians who sold America out so most everything is made in China junk land .