Surprised how much your viewers like the STP.. I do too. Thanks for providing the sound effect for the coil spring which is part of the reason I watch your vids .. LOL 🤠
I've always liked the Premium Guard filters, especially because of the silicone gasket. My car runs very high oil pressure and has blown out a rubber gasket in the winter. Luckily I caught it right in time, I always watch the oil pressure light when starting. Still had my fingers on the key. The softer silicone gasket compresses more and doesn't blow out as easily. I've never had an issue with one. I also like the soft, pliable ADBV. I used to run the Ford Racing filter but they got rid of the silicone gasket and I moved to the Premium Guard XL. I have a suggestion for an oil filter: look for a new old stock Amsoil filter to see if the media before 2008 was really the Donaldson media. You can compare it to any Donaldson DBL filter. There were a bunch of really old Amsoil filters on e. Bay, last I looked. Make sure it's an EA series.
@@noneOfYourBusinessDotCom Premium Guard is the company behind this STP in the vid as well as Carquest Premium and all the Napa filters so you can choose from those to make it easier.
I love the oversized filters, but the larger FE3600 doesn’t translate to significantly increased filtration surface area so it’s not superior on a Toyota. Very helpful video! I was thinking about the FE3600 for my Toyota but after watching this video, I’m confident there is no additional benefit.
Oil filter Friday! the Endurance is almost identical to Royal purple, Amsoil and I think one more I can’t remember. Very well-made but wish the bypass was better
They are actually identical to the Amsoil EAO34 and RP. They are all made in the same factory by Champion labs. I use the Fram FE3600 and the Purolator Boss PBL that matches. I have cut them open side by side and they are identical. Bank testing here on TH-cam has testing and ranking of all the most popular oil filters. You should check the testing out.
I would go with the STP! If you are doing regular oil changes and changing the filter very time, no real need to go with the FRAM Endurance. I like the silicone oil gasket and the silicone ADBV on the STP. Living in Canada when it can get as cold as -40F in the winter, i have more confidence in the silicone over the rubber in extreme conditions.
Almost everybody takes that silicone gasket for granted. They think it never matters but I always come upon stories like yours so it does matter obviously and they are including it basically complimentary so that is pretty darn cool.
STP wins simply because the anti drain back valve is glued in. Plus the red bits. Fram has better media but the leaking end cap defeats the filtration.
I would like to see a comparison of the flow rates between the two filters. I know that it's not what you are doing on your comparisons. Hey, you can't have everything. What you do have here would give me confidence in either filter. Great job. Personally, I would like to see more pleats with the Fram. Of course that would mean getting rid of the wire screen backing. In my opinion, if the Fram had another dozen or so pleats, it would be a fantastic filter. Just my two cents. {Ok, with inflation, 2 cents just isn't worth much anymore.} Take care and keep these coming.
Great Video Pete! Both solid filters. I used an STP extended life oil filter for the 1st time on my daughter's Equinox for the last oil change. Couldn't beat the deal at Auto Zone that month on STP FS High Mileage Oil, an extended life oil filter and an air filter. I took full advantage of the deal on the air filter and grabbed one for my other daughter's Jeep Cherokee which usually run $20-25. I'm curious to cut that oil filter open after the next oil change.
My pick is the Fram. It’s a solid filter and if Amsoil is willing to put their name on the same exact filter, then they are willing to risk their business and I see that as a win for me.
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@@Balticblue93 oh yeah, I’ve watched all his videos. The channel name looked like clickbate the first time saw it, but it’s turned out to be one of my favorite channels!
Recently the STP has gone up in price but you can get the same filter as a Carquest from AAP or just the premium guard from O'Reillys for about $2 less.
I was using the Fram, but it is a weird size for the filter socket making it VERY irritating to remove.(Hoda Accord 4 cyl) I just switched to the STP, so we'll see. STP looks well made. So was the Fram, but the weird size pissed .e off.
Another great comparison. I would use either one without any concerns. I prefer the higher degree of filtration over the lesser filtration/ higher flow of most standard filters for my personal use. Have a great week!
I think the STP edges out the Fram because of the spring, the silicon seal and because it does not have a leaky drain back valve, which look like the same thing Champ uses. I had a Camp made "Fram Pro" filter and I wonder if they are not both related now days.
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STP products are Good. Amazed China QUALITY. Sooo I am going to keep buying it. Always good specials with points in Autozone with STPc oil an air filters.
I have Fords and use Motorcraft Filters. They are cheap, and they both have OVAL inlet holes that provide more oil flow. The FL400s and the FL820S are what I use. I think only the Mobil One or Bosch for my same filters have the oval inlet holes, I forget which one that does, think it is the Mobil One???
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That STP looks to be the same Chinese/viet nam made PG EX. On Rockauto under “standard replacement” these are available under the moniker “various MFR” for under $5. At least that’s the case for all of the sizes that fit my vehicles. If you order several and they all come from the same warehouse, add in the 5% discount code, these filters are a steal. I just got 4 of these and 2 motorcrafts for my ford including tax and shipping for an average of ~$5 ea.
Stp is a Studebaker product, at least it was, thats good enough for me. Ive used the STP and never had any issues. The only oil filter ive ever had fail was a Deutsch.... the gasket came unglued.
Used Fram filters including air filters and cabin filters for 30+ years. Never had an issue. Marketing tries to persuade you to think one is better than another.
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Good idea using a magnet to show that the wire backing was metal. I would of assumed it was plastic. Would you consider flashlight testing filters? Seems like leaky bypass leaf springs are an issue now due to the ripples
I could buy the STP XL oil filter for $5.80 today at Auto Zone, if I buy 5 quarts of oil and an engine air filter at the same time. The STP XL is a good filter for the money. If I bought a Fram, it would be the Ultra Synthetic for $8.97 at Walmart. The Fram is the only oil filter that I’ve been able to remove by hand. I’ve used both. 👍
The Endurance often fails the bypass valve flashlight test and is a leaker because the "leaf Spring" does not sit flush to the endcap. Much prefer the STP bypass valve design. Leaky bypass valves can & do affect the efficiency of the filter.
I really like them both. They have good features and build quality. But both are more filter than I need for a 5k mile OCI. I’d only use them if I could get them on sale, and that is unlikely.
Thanks to Warren! 😃👍 I'd prefer the Chinese one, it looks cleaner. I don't see any advantage in the mesh backing AFTER the filter that justifies the risk of breaking little pieces off and entering the engine. Thank you for the video! 😃👍
A lil late to the party again ! Totally forgot what day it was again ! But i agree the fram with %100 syn media with wire backing is the better filter ! Too bad it doesnt have a silicon base gasget and a boing boing coil spring ! 😛
Would use the STP but sadly all the Autozone stores here have an outdated stock with the black nitril rubber gasket sadly. Microgard select and Carquest premium are cheaper.
That is actually incorrect. Wix is made by Mann & Hummel and Amsoil EAO and other filters are made by Champion Labs. www.youtube.com/@BrandRanks/videos Oil filter testing videos and rankings. The 2nd to last video has them all ranked at the end. But you can watch the testing of all major brands
Great Job, Pete, thanks for Sharing Warren! Despite being made in China and being made pretty well otherwise with good components, I'd take the STP. That bypass valve stuck in the leaf spring is a deal breaker for me. If it had the BPV in the canister or, better yet on the top end I would select it in a heartbeat.
Would have been interested in seeing a flashlight test to the FE to see if light showed. My guess would be that it would. Until I see Champ Labs has corrected that design flaw, I wouldn't purchase one, The Premium Guard made STP XL, excluding that small excess glue area, looks good. If I was buying a PG made filter now, be the Carquest Premium Blue. Best value PG filter with 15% discount from AAP. Thanks for the vid.
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Agreed! 30% of his picks are wrong. Fram is always a poor quality made STP is made in China in a reputable filter company. Fram made with recycling materials witha chiness low reputable company in USA.
The way the Fram's spring and bypass valve assembly uses metal to metal surface connection to the open center tube provides a poor sealing connection prone to passing dirty oil under pressure. This is the fatal flaw in most of Fram's designs...
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Surprised how much your viewers like the STP.. I do too. Thanks for providing the sound effect for the coil spring which is part of the reason I watch your vids .. LOL 🤠
You're Welcome and Thanks👍
I've always liked the Premium Guard filters, especially because of the silicone gasket. My car runs very high oil pressure and has blown out a rubber gasket in the winter. Luckily I caught it right in time, I always watch the oil pressure light when starting. Still had my fingers on the key. The softer silicone gasket compresses more and doesn't blow out as easily. I've never had an issue with one. I also like the soft, pliable ADBV. I used to run the Ford Racing filter but they got rid of the silicone gasket and I moved to the Premium Guard XL. I have a suggestion for an oil filter: look for a new old stock Amsoil filter to see if the media before 2008 was really the Donaldson media. You can compare it to any Donaldson DBL filter. There were a bunch of really old Amsoil filters on e. Bay, last I looked. Make sure it's an EA series.
Do you purchase Premium Guard oil filters online or in store?
@@noneOfYourBusinessDotCom Premium Guard is the company behind this STP in the vid as well as Carquest Premium and all the Napa filters so you can choose from those to make it easier.
I love the oversized filters, but the larger FE3600 doesn’t translate to significantly increased filtration surface area so it’s not superior on a Toyota. Very helpful video! I was thinking about the FE3600 for my Toyota but after watching this video, I’m confident there is no additional benefit.
Oil filter Friday! the Endurance is almost identical to Royal purple, Amsoil and I think one more I can’t remember. Very well-made but wish the bypass was better
They are actually identical to the Amsoil EAO34 and RP. They are all made in the same factory by Champion labs. I use the Fram FE3600 and the Purolator Boss PBL that matches. I have cut them open side by side and they are identical. Bank testing here on TH-cam has testing and ranking of all the most popular oil filters. You should check the testing out.
We love nice thick cans.
who doesn't?
I like both filters. Thank you
You're Welcome👍
Good morning Pete, great review and you did a great job again. I always look forward to your Friday reviews. Take care and be well my friend. 😎😊☕☕
Good Morning and Thanks👍👍
I would go with the STP! If you are doing regular oil changes and changing the filter very time, no real need to go with the FRAM Endurance. I like the silicone oil gasket and the silicone ADBV on the STP. Living in Canada when it can get as cold as -40F in the winter, i have more confidence in the silicone over the rubber in extreme conditions.
Almost everybody takes that silicone gasket for granted. They think it never matters but I always come upon stories like yours so it does matter obviously and they are including it basically complimentary so that is pretty darn cool.
Great video WhipCityWrencher. I find I amazing how expensive the oil filter have gotten over the years
Thanks WrenchingMafia 👍
sweet sweet you should do blue stp and bosch head to head
STP wins simply because the anti drain back valve is glued in. Plus the red bits. Fram has better media but the leaking end cap defeats the filtration.
Very good video. Both filters look very well made. I agree with others here that the STP filter looks like a Premium Guard. I would use either one.
I also thought the STP used the Premium Guard / Pentius design.
Thank You👍
The fram endurance is a fantastic filter
I would like to see a comparison of the flow rates between the two filters. I know that it's not what you are doing on your comparisons. Hey, you can't have everything. What you do have here would give me confidence in either filter. Great job. Personally, I would like to see more pleats with the Fram. Of course that would mean getting rid of the wire screen backing. In my opinion, if the Fram had another dozen or so pleats, it would be a fantastic filter. Just my two cents. {Ok, with inflation, 2 cents just isn't worth much anymore.} Take care and keep these coming.
Thank You👍
THE FLOW RATE OF THE STP is trash compared to the Fram
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Great Video Pete! Both solid filters. I used an STP extended life oil filter for the 1st time on my daughter's Equinox for the last oil change. Couldn't beat the deal at Auto Zone that month on STP FS High Mileage Oil, an extended life oil filter and an air filter. I took full advantage of the deal on the air filter and grabbed one for my other daughter's Jeep Cherokee which usually run $20-25. I'm curious to cut that oil filter open after the next oil change.
Both filters look really good. I use a Fram XG on my vehicles and no problems at all. I do like the coil spring better. Another fine video. Thank you.
Thank You👍
My pick is the Fram. It’s a solid filter and if Amsoil is willing to put their name on the same exact filter, then they are willing to risk their business and I see that as a win for me.
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Oil filter testing videos and rankings. The 2nd to last video has them all ranked at the end. But you can watch the testing of all major brands
@@Balticblue93 oh yeah, I’ve watched all his videos. The channel name looked like clickbate the first time saw it, but it’s turned out to be one of my favorite channels!
Knocking it out of the park again, WCW.
I have recommended your vids to everyone I see peering cluelessly at orange cans of death.
Thank You😊👍
Hi Pete 🙂. Filter Fridays and your reviews are so informative 👍, you do an excellent job! TFS my friend ☺.
Thanks, Merri
Have a great weekend👍
@@WhipCityWrencher You too
Recently the STP has gone up in price but you can get the same filter as a Carquest from AAP or just the premium guard from O'Reillys for about $2 less.
I was using the Fram, but it is a weird size for the filter socket making it VERY irritating to remove.(Hoda Accord 4 cyl) I just switched to the STP, so we'll see. STP looks well made. So was the Fram, but the weird size pissed .e off.
Thanks, Pete and Warren. Another great informative video.
You're Welcome Jonathan and Thanks👍😊
Great job Pete as usual
Thank You👍
The STP looks like it's very similar or the equivalent of a Premium Guard / Microgard Select or Pentius filter.
The base plates look identical to Purolator too
Another great comparison. I would use either one without any concerns. I prefer the higher degree of filtration over the lesser filtration/ higher flow of most standard filters for my personal use. Have a great week!
Thank You and have a great weekend😊
You didn't use a flash light to check the seal of the fram, by pass valve. In the past there was a lot of. Light showing poor seal.
I'm assuming this one lets light through as well.
I think the STP edges out the Fram because of the spring, the silicon seal and because it does not have a leaky drain back valve, which look like the same thing Champ uses. I had a Camp made "Fram Pro" filter and I wonder if they are not both related now days.
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Oil filter testing videos and rankings. The 2nd to last video has them all ranked at the end. But you can watch the testing of all major brands
STP products are Good. Amazed China QUALITY. Sooo I am going to keep buying it. Always good specials with points in Autozone with STPc oil an air filters.
I have Fords and use Motorcraft Filters. They are cheap, and they both have OVAL inlet holes that provide more oil flow. The FL400s and the FL820S are what I use. I think only the Mobil One or Bosch for my same filters have the oval inlet holes, I forget which one that does, think it is the Mobil One???
Depending on the oil filter size a lot of Purolators also have the oval/elongated inlet holes, Thanks!
@@WhipCityWrencher Ill have to check but my FL820S is still about 6 bucks at Walmart and cheaper bulk online.
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That STP looks to be the same Chinese/viet nam made PG EX. On Rockauto under “standard replacement” these are available under the moniker “various MFR” for under $5. At least that’s the case for all of the sizes that fit my vehicles. If you order several and they all come from the same warehouse, add in the 5% discount code, these filters are a steal. I just got 4 of these and 2 motorcrafts for my ford including tax and shipping for an average of ~$5 ea.
Stp is a Studebaker product, at least it was, thats good enough for me. Ive used the STP and never had any issues. The only oil filter ive ever had fail was a Deutsch.... the gasket came unglued.
Used Fram filters including air filters and cabin filters for 30+ years. Never had an issue. Marketing tries to persuade you to think one is better than another.
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Oil filter testing videos and rankings. The 2nd to last video has them all ranked at the end. But you can watch the testing of all major brands
Good idea using a magnet to show that the wire backing was metal. I would of assumed it was plastic.
Would you consider flashlight testing filters? Seems like leaky bypass leaf springs are an issue now due to the ripples
I've tested some in the past and I'll occasionally test one, but I'm not going to test everyone with the leaf spring combo bypass valve. Thanks!
I bought Chinese made filers. Really cheap and very good.
I'd use either one
thanks pete & warren.
You're Welcome👍
I could buy the STP XL oil filter for $5.80 today at Auto Zone, if I buy 5 quarts of oil and an engine air filter at the same time. The STP XL is a good filter for the money. If I bought a Fram, it would be the Ultra Synthetic for $8.97 at Walmart. The Fram is the only oil filter that I’ve been able to remove by hand. I’ve used both. 👍
Thanks for Sharing👍
The Endurance often fails the bypass valve flashlight test and is a leaker because the "leaf Spring" does not sit flush to the endcap. Much prefer the STP bypass valve design. Leaky bypass valves can & do affect the efficiency of the filter.
I really like them both. They have good features and build quality. But both are more filter than I need for a 5k mile OCI. I’d only use them if I could get them on sale, and that is unlikely.
Thanks for the feedback👍
Thanks to Warren! 😃👍
I'd prefer the Chinese one, it looks cleaner.
I don't see any advantage in the mesh backing AFTER the filter that justifies the risk of breaking little pieces off and entering the engine.
Thank you for the video! 😃👍
You're Welcome👍
I'd choose the STP over the Fram despite where it's made. Three bucks cheaper for more filter media and a coil spring.
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Great sharing whip👍
Thank You👍
A lil late to the party again ! Totally forgot what day it was again ! But i agree the fram with %100 syn media with wire backing is the better filter ! Too bad it doesnt have a silicon base gasget and a boing boing coil spring ! 😛
Thanks, Scotty
I hope the party just got started, LOL 😊
Would use the STP but sadly all the Autozone stores here have an outdated stock with the black nitril rubber gasket sadly. Microgard select and Carquest premium are cheaper.
Amsoil eAO by Wix❤
That is actually incorrect. Wix is made by Mann & Hummel and Amsoil EAO and other filters are made by Champion Labs.
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Maybe a performance test would be nice instead of I like blue or I like orange...
Wait a minute? I can use the 3600 on my Camry then? Even though it’s super easy already, the extra length would make it even easier
Also I keep forgetting, I’ll send out the filter I emailed you about over the weekend
Yep, you could.
@@TechTimeWithEric Okay Thanks!
Great Job, Pete, thanks for Sharing Warren! Despite being made in China and being made pretty well otherwise with good components, I'd take the STP. That bypass valve stuck in the leaf spring is a deal breaker for me. If it had the BPV in the canister or, better yet on the top end I would select it in a heartbeat.
Thanks, Jim😊
@@WhipCityWrencher Anytime, Pete!
Would have been interested in seeing a flashlight test to the FE to see if light showed. My guess would be that it would. Until I see Champ Labs has corrected that design flaw, I wouldn't purchase one, The Premium Guard made STP XL, excluding that small excess glue area, looks good. If I was buying a PG made filter now, be the Carquest Premium Blue. Best value PG filter with 15% discount from AAP. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you for the info.
You're welcome faxmen09👍
@@WhipCityWrencher Have a great weekend Whip.
@@davidsacco4860 Happy to help.
@@faxmen09 Thanks! You Too!
In this case if Living in USA then use Fram FE3600.
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How can I send you an oil filter?
Sure, send me an email to Poker4me007@gmail.com
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I wish the STP were made in the USA.
Same here👍
Not even close, the STP filter is far superior then that cheap Fram.
Agreed! 30% of his picks are wrong. Fram is always a poor quality made STP is made in China in a reputable filter company. Fram made with recycling materials witha chiness low reputable company in USA.
So 70% are right
@@hansenriquerach-mendoza3515that filters made by Champ labs.
The way the Fram's spring and bypass valve assembly uses metal to metal surface connection to the open center tube provides a poor sealing connection prone to passing dirty oil under pressure. This is the fatal flaw in most of Fram's designs...
Thank You! Those 3 threads on the STP would be a deal breaker for me.
Wonder how much money they save by doing only 3.
Only on the Internet.
Frequent changes
STP over the Fram, The open filter design is a deal breaker for me.
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Purolator boss for me lol
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Good video Pete. Both are crap. I’d go with the Fram. Sadly.
Thanks, John👍
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