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Which car is faster on track: McLaren 720S or 600LT?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2021
- LeMans driver and Time Attack record-setter Billy Johnson finds out if the McLaren 720S can turn a faster lap than the 600LT - on his first lap EVER driving both cars.
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Well done in terms of explaining the data for us non-professional drivers to understand. And those are some fast, fast laps ! Nice job !
Thanks! I'm glad to hear it was easy to follow the data analysis.
As always, the Stuntman delivers! Great video, and truly love the data trace analysis...reminded me of watching F1 drivers talk about their cornering speeds from the mid to late 1990s.
That's why I bought the 600LT, thanks for confirming my feelings on it
Same here.
Nice. I like driving them.
It's nice to watch onboard of someone who is driving at the limit the whole time. Hopefully we get some more normal cars at some point like brz s2000 nd miata Corvette c5 to c8 maybe some fwd veloster n ford st cars etc. Stuff you see at track days
I'll keep that in mind for future content!
This camera setup really gives a perfect sense of speed. Keep it up!
Hey Billy, love the "Foreign Relations" T-shirt! Classic! Any chance you could please find out what tires the 600LT was running, please? 225/285 stock, but were they fitted? My father was the production director on the McLaren F1 (now retired), I understand that McLaren "undertyred" the 600LT to distance it from the 720S's lap-times, which with 235/305 (as was originally intended) outperformed the 720S. As a prospective buyer of a slightly used 600LT, I'm wondering if the owner was running stock rubber?
Keep up the great work! (i e-mailed the address on your website, but am awaiting a response, aplogies for the post here asking the same question!).
Thats way cool, the F1 is one of my all time favorite cars! Both cars were on identical 235/305 Goodyear 3R tires.
@@OneLapBilly wow, interesting. Thanks for the info!
You are on fire 🔥 Billy... you make it so easy, when it is not. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks! 🤙
Good information Billy, nice job. Hope to see more in the future. The data analysis was nice to see. I would like to hear some commentary during the lap (voice over not real time) to give us a sense of what is happening. That will be helpful, particularly on tracks that your viewers might not be familiar with (eg Buttonwillow for me). 🙏
I've had that request a lot now and just might. Personally I hate talking and music when watching in car videos.
600LT drivers car and the 720s top speed both are amaizing looking cars !
Another incredible video Billy. Waiting on a big auto publication to pick you up as their Randy Pobst 😁
Thanks buddy!
Need more videos! Great channel.
Good data analysis and professional input on the differences of these two cars!
Thanks man!
Liking the analysis on these videos!
Exiting Riverside on that first lap, wow. Haha Love the data analysis, hope you continue to do those!
It's been getting positive reviews so I just might.
great info! can't wait for more of these!
Thanks! Stay tuned.
Fantastic video and data analysis.
Glad you liked it!
Hey, Billy! I have read your stuff for years on Motoiq, but I never knew about this channel until now. I have some catching up to do. Great vid.
Thanks for the support! It's a never ending journey 🙂
Still waiting for the NC1 Video! Looked like a handful at about the 2:49 mark! Really enjoying these.
Glad to hear it. I need to find an NC1 first.
my man was gettin rowdy at 2:48!
How does this not have more views!?
It needs to be shared more! Haha, glad you enjoyed it.
amazing video, I was actually there not too long ago! amazing time!
Thanks for the lap Billy. I'd like to see you get the GT350 vs the new Mach 1 on track, same day same tires. Can you ask Ford to lend you some cars? lol
Thanks for the comment. I'd love to do proper tests and comparisons. Unfortunately (as mentioned in the intro to my channel) that is extremely expensive due to needing new tires and a clear track. It would probably be difficult to get those cars from Ford on brand new tires, even if I had hundreds of thousands of followers, let alone for my new channel. I would have to just find owners of the two cars if I were to do that comparison, but the variables in tire wear might be greater than the performance difference between the two. Hence this channel is more focused on the challenge of what I can do on my first lap in a given car no matter the conditions (weather, tire, alignment, etc...) Even though I'm usually within half a second of the cars ability given the conditions, it's still not THE FASTEST lap these cars are capable of on new tires and a proper alignment. Sorry for the novel response and thanks for following!
good stuff! as always!
Thanks!
Great driving Billy, love how you lay everything out for those who aren’t as car savvy can understand. Out of curiosity what does a set of carbon brakes/pads go for on the McLaren’s you tested?
Thank you. That's my goal in these videos and my tech articles on www.motoiq.com - iirc they are over $20K to replace.
Great video! Thank you
Thanks!
was this an FSE track day? pretty epic cars for a track day.
Not this particular day.
Great driving!
Thank you!
Fantastic content aside, the camera really brings home how you are hopping the curbs. What setup are you using? Sorry for the silly question.
It's an old GoPro Session 5
Love this channel. Can't wait for more videos. So if you had to pick one car for "track duty" would it be gt3rs, 600lt, 675lt, or 720s?
Thanks! That's a tough one since there are so many great cars out there. I'm personally more of a GT2RS kind of guy rather than a 3RS. But for track use, the 600LT is the most "pure" and proper driving car of the bunch.
@@OneLapBilly would you be able to comment on feel difference between 600LT and 675LT ? Thank you
I can’t quite remember the 600lt lap but I don’t remember you having to fight the car as hard as you did in this 720s
Exactly! Brilliant driving Billy...as always!!!
Dude we need more videos from you, been 2 months....
Next one will be out VERY soon. Once my intro clip is done
@@OneLapBilly hellllll yeahhhhh!
I know how familiar you are with the s197 chassis. Any chance of a video like this with a few driving tips. Like showing how to use coasting in the corners to get the most out of the car?
It's something I'm considering. I just need an s197 to do the video with.
@@OneLapBilly come visit, just happened to have one lol
I love your videos. I wanna see you take a 3rs around this track.
Done. Stay tuned.
@@OneLapBilly waiting impatiently
Nice Shirt ! 😂
You got some draft too on lap 2
Interesting stuff....
We change to steel brakes because of the cost of replacement (shows single day use tires needing replaced).
On cars this fast, there really aren't any tires that will last more than 150-200 miles (1-2 track days). Plus $1500 tires aren't as bad as $20K+ brakes.
@@OneLapBilly I have a 12C and I do autocross with it as well as a lot of street driving per year. Tires and brakes last just fine for me, and I don't have an interest in replacing either so frequently. That being said, I keep at what I can afford and maximize that. I'd keep the better brakes (I have carbon ceramic) because they're better. If I can't afford to play that game I don't play the game. If tires won't last anyway, why spend too dollar for tires?
@@EMFAudio autocross and street driving does not put anywhere near the load/stress/wear as track driving. Speed costs money and if you're a novice driver, tires will last longer on an autocross or track than if you're a more advanced driver who pushes the car to the limit. If youre fast and can't afford replacing tires on a car like this, it's probably not the best idea to be tracking it in the first place. Its good to hear that you're enjoying your car on an autox, since most owners don't even do that.
@@OneLapBilly I am aware it doesn't wear as much, that's why I mentioned it, because that's my comfort zone. Autocross wears the same amount but a MUCH shorter time. I might have 6-8 minutes of track time compared to two hours. That's literally an entire season of autocross with the same wear as 1 track day at say Road Atlanta. I don't have it in me to buy 8 sets of tires a year. Also, since you may not know, brakes are $20k when you know the tricks of the trade. $1,200 for pads, $4k for rotors.
@@EMFAudio lower speeds, lower energy going into the brakes and tires = lower wear than road courses. Yes, I'm quite aware of the costs. Personally I like the CCST option from Surface Transforms the best.
talk about HAULING THE MAIL
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Lol I have the same shirt
You can be my wingman anytime.
@@OneLapBilly So Disney World?