How Many Expensive Cars Can I Beat With My Cheapest 600cc Formula Car?
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- Join me on a trackday with my Formula Predators PC010. The cheapest 600cc formula race car. I am going to be driving together with GT3 cars, Formula 4s, Porsches, Ford Fiestas on street tires and everything in between. How did I do? #trackday #formulapredators #autodrommost
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That looks like a dangerous mix of cars and skill levels to be perfectly honest.
Absolutely, there are professional drivers in Euro Nascar, GT3s, F4s, and other super fast race cars together with people who just got a gift voucher to "drive a lap on a racetrack in a Porsche". Safety could be better 😅
@@RacersRushCarslol, nice
It's just a track day... Not a completion. The rules during track days are allot more stricter on how you can drive on the track compared to how you're allowed to drive during a race.
@@dribrom i do a lot off trackday's (with moto) and only the bad organizations let these people drive together
@@RacersRushCars So what? If they are just following the rules on track day they will let them by. It's as simple as that. They won't battle or do anything crazy against drivers that are faster
You could probably ask the Lotus owners for a swap at a track day, wouldn't be surprised if they said yes.
I would love to drive one! I will try talking to them next time if i see the car there again. Never had the guts to ask anyone to drive their car :D
@@RacersRushCars you gotta get some friends with race cars i have been a passenger a couple times and it is funnn
This thing with a modern 1000cc motorbike engine with around 200hp would go fast af😅
For sure, I am thinking a little bit about putting a more powerful engine in it 😁
I think that would be extremly nice. And there are so many wracked 1000cc bikes, where you can use the engine for cheap
My 2011 600cc suzuki gsxr have around 125hp and would be a big upgrade for sure 😅
@@RacersRushCarsdon't think,do it !👍
It already exists and has done for years...I used to race them myself. The series is called F1000, and the cars are called Jedi. 0-60 in about 2.2 seconds.
That's insane that they let open and closed wheels out together.
yeah, it is not the safest... But everybody generally drives carefully. I didnt see anyone racing. If someone catches up the person always moves out of the way and makes the overtake as safe as possible, but still...
@@RacersRushCars is that a rule or people just generally don't race ?
@@advanced8625That’s generally a rule for track days. You aren’t supposed to be all out racing because it’s always such a wide mix of cars and drivers. But, some groups are less strict.
@@advanced8625 I think it is more of an un written rule. But everyone seems to follow it.
8:53 - It's actually a Porsche 718 Cayman. Good job on making that "Formula Car" of yours, I love it! 😁😁
Haha thanks! Yes it was Cayman, i only realized after narrating it and seeing the video full screen 🤦♂️
@@RacersRushCars And I just saw your correcting comment after i wrote mine 😐
@@RacersRushCars where did u buy it
@@dagitt5536 you mean the formula car? From an Italian racing team
@@RacersRushCars and that Fiesta at the end was a Focus 😀
Just a few corrections, in the end it was not a porsche 911, it was Cayman, it was difficult to see what it was while editing and narating the video. Also the red flag in the end, during this trackday does not mean forbiden overtakes or big slowing down, it just means it is the last lap and you have to get off the track.
The problem with the video is that none of your competitors were aware of the competition you envisioned yourself being part of, they were just crusing.
Just imagine how fast this would still be if it were powered by a Kawasaki Ninja ZX4RR engine instead of a 25+ year old 600 CC engine.
😁 I think it could still beat 300hp sport cars on street tires even with the zx4rr engine, I will try to do a comparison to a sports car with me driving it, I am quite curious. Because the driver levels are very different on these trackdays.
@@RacersRushCars Indeed, considering the ZX4RR engine is much lighter in weight than an older 600 CC bike engine while also delivering comparable performance figures, your car should have that much better a power to weight ratio for it.
@@Iamwolf134 I thought they were like 80 Hp? And probably less torque than an old 600. It would be better with the 636 engine from about 2005.
Gotta get him an r1 motor
@@robmule4647 That, or a 636 CC engine from 2013 onwards.
this is some backwoods-engineering 60s-formula batshit-insane level of awesome
This is a great rec by youtube. Glad I found this channel!
Awesome! Thanks a lot for watching! I will try to make more videos you are going to like
This is amazing, that build is hilarious and brilliant!
Thanks! It is great fun
i love how casual and down to earth this video feels, i love your approach!
I used to track a lotus exige. I think some lotus owners on track would let you drive theirs if they see what you are driving
Very cool trick with the trash bag custom seat 😂
Nice! Did you like the exige? How was the reliability as a track car?
@@RacersRushCars the exige was awesome in many ways. It sort of feels like a safe crotchrocket with the sounds, sensations and overall feel. It is decently reliable on track but does have some somewhat common issues.
In the states, basically all lotus elise/exige use the Toyota 2zzge drivetrain found in the Celica GTS and toyota matrix XRS. So it has a weak oil pump that can shatter and valvetrain that could grenade with a misshift. It’s not as durable as an S2000. The chassis and suspension are fine. No electronics nor power steering to fail.
I blew up my motor about 3x due to mostly a bad aftermarket supercharger tune. Had to tune it myself after all that fiasco
The fun to cost ratio is off the scale with this, who made it? Kit?👌
I’d like to know where you can get one of these too
Someone who *actually* knows how to drive, will humiliate any poser in a Porsche with just a VW Golf lol
I think these guys are just having some fun
Not really. Some tracks just allow for power to reign supreme and even on a smaller track, porshe slaps so much tyre width, power and aero onto the car it makes up for bad driving and the cars poor design.
And i have never met a tracking golf owner who said golf is worth tracking.
(x) to doubt
@@Haddedam it was just an example xD all I'm saying is that straight roads are for fast cars and curvy roads are for a fast drivers🤷🏻♂️
how many red flags did you ignore whilst passing the last few cars?
The red flag on this trackday doesn't have the same meaning as in a race, it just means that you have to go into the pits at the end of the lap. For no overtakes and slowing down as well it would be together with the yellow flag. Either way, it is difficult to call anything I did an "overtake" because everybody just gets out of the way immediately as someone faster catches up, there is no real overtaking. You see someone in the mirrors and you immediately let them go. If they caught up with you, they are faster, so there is no point in wasting someone's track time and making it more dangerous than it already is with all these different classes together.
Modern 1000cc engine or a turbo busa engine would be absolutely insane. Its already a really cool build
would be great for sure, I think the gsxr 1000 should fit in there easily, i might do something like that...
This video made me smile - great voiceover and I love your car!
Looka like heaps of fun. Looking forward to see more track day videos.
Its great fun! I will be making more! Do you have anything you would like me to focus on?
@@RacersRushCars technical nitty-gritty about setups and adjusting would be interesting. Also beating expensive sports cars in corners is great fun to watch
The Hayabusa swap would be phenomenal! With that upgrade in power I’d assume a brake upgrade would be due too. Nice work!
would be great to have a bit more power! The brakes are surprisingly good, better suspension would be nice though with more power
My team is my mum was both wholesome and hillarious ^^
Seems like you're living the dream and just for 7K nice!
I actually never thought I would be able to do this, it is definitely a dream come true
this reminds me a bit of formula student cars. definitely cool to see it compete with other cars. and this with tires that look like they have their best time already behind them.
It is kind of like a formula student, but mine is even simpler than the formula student cars. The tires were actually brand new on the beginning of the day :D They look like that and start having the pieces coming off immediately as they warm up a little bit.
Id love to know more about your car auch as how the engine was modified to such as transmission shifting etc. a video about it would be nice. Subscribed!
Great build, and so fast that it even makes a Cayman look like a 911 😊👍.
Everyone complaining about safety, I just think this is awesome. Fair play building all that yourself!
What fun!
I would say you sir top the charts when it comes to the !”Bang for the Buck & Fun”!
You have an awesome chassis-race car to build on. In time you’ll be the guy at track day everyone will be laughing and chatting about being passed by the “the slowest F1 cart” money can buy! Cheers-n-trophies to you!
Thanks so much!
Yay! Go Team Mum!! How long do the pit stops take?
Around 4 hours at least 🤣 loosen the wheel bolts, lift one side of the car, put it on stands, lift the other end put it on stands, undo the bolts completely, take the wheels off, take them somewhere for a tire change and then put it all back takes time 🤣 probably would be the longest pitstop ever
Probably the same as the Bottas' pitstop
Haha, after I saw the black bus and some cars reg. plates, I was so suprised to see that the video was filmed here in CZ =D
That explains the chaepo formula. Greetings from Brno.
:D jj v mostě je to asi jedinej okruh kde s tím můžu rozumně jet v čechách
A simple 600 CC formula car overtook an Apline give him a gold license already!
Subbed, Fantastic and inspiring project ❤
Thanks!
what engine do you have there? I used to ride a 600 (599)ccm Yamaha Fazer and loved the engine and this seems kinda familiar
Cool bro, how old are you? It's impressive you've done this by yourself!
Loved The video! Keep uploading!
Thanks so much! I will do more videos for sure
That looks so fun!
It is great fun! Worth it if you are into driving :) Thank you for watching and commenting!
My main objective when on track is to improve myself. And have fun. There is always both faster and slower drivers. And cars or motorcycles.
I would LOVE to drive in that cheap formula car, I have no clue why, but I'm 100% confident it's a blast and a LOT of fun!!
I have to see more of this!
thanks! It is an amazing fun :)
good content, keep it up !
Thanks so much! I appreciate it
I should get myself one of those, it looked like fun.
Damn... i have a 675 triple just laying there... I might start the hunt for a chassis
That thing looks hella fun tbh
Would love to see this as a hybrid.
A supporting electric motor would make this even more menacing in and out of those corners.
Would also help get you to top speed quicker and support the wheels spinning faster during the top and too.
Not a clue on the engineering details though 😂 could be a challenge, but at least the battery would be lighter than a fully electric.
Cleaning dude gets to drive the tracktor. I want one.
Change the ratio? The engine is strong enough to get some extra top speed?
Turboing that lil car seems really funn
Just the fact that u designed/built/painted this makes it so awesome. I could never do this😭
I was a bit confusing in the naration, I designed the livery, painted the car myself, did the rev lights and dash, and put most of it together after completely crashing it, but I didn't design or make the whole car itself 😅
@@RacersRushCars Ah ok. Still pretty cool tho
Dude, your car is just amazing
But for a fuel veined person you failed to correctly identify surprisingly many cars ;D
You passed like 6 cars with the red flags. What are the rules there?
There are rules for yellow flag, no overtaking, slow down and increased caution, they do blue flags as well, and the orange circle flag I have seen a few times as well, and of course the low grip striped flag as well. The red flag is just to say you have to enter the box at the end of the lap, they would do red and yellow flags together if the overtaking was not allowed and you had to enter the box. You can still finish the lap driving at pace and overtaking. Regarding the overtakes, everyone is pretty careful and it was quite visible in the video. No one is racing anyone. Generally I catch up with someone and if I see they know about me and move to the side I overtake. I would not try to overtake someone who is doing a racing line during this type of trackday. When I see someone faster, I also immediately try to help them overtake me. I do not drive the car at the limit while close to other cars.
@@RacersRushCars You 100% on that? any chance you've got any info from the provider you booked with, because the circuit is pretty clear on no overtaking under red in their operating rule book. Just seems really weird and I'd be interested in who the provider was and their reasoning. I don't know whats wrong with a red flag with red chequer at the finish like any other track.
Someone with your skills would surely appreciate a nice 1000cc transplant👍
Congratulations!!!
I gotta have one of these!!!
that thing is sick bro
A new R1 engine in your car would run and sound epic👌🏾
It would surely be even more exciting! I am just a bit worried about the rest of the car keeping up 😅
@@RacersRushCars yeah no, don't do it. Race car engineer here :
- you have no front impact absorber, the chassis is doing the job. It may work only because the speed is so low
- you only have 1 brake line. If it fails due to added forces, you're fucked.
- the drivetrain is in a soft material, it probably can't handle more torque.
Adding power is the Best way to Kill yourself. I've designed such cars myself, it has not been made to go faster trust me
That would be briljant indeed! And he could also use a quickshifter and autoblipper.. so no more clutching after the start. Just like the legend Cars have with the current mt09 engines. 👌👌
@@tituskoreman1565 yeah even the 09 would sound and run epic in his car
@@tituskoreman1565 the auto blipper would be amazing for sure, the pedal box is so tight I cannot do heel and toe so downshifting is a challenge at the moment.
Looks like Tony Stark winning The Wacky Racers cartoon. The albino rynocerous is ooonnn
That car looks very fun ❤
Looks so k-swappable tbh, maybe a supercharger for some linear power would be awesome
Out of curiosity, is that rear axle mandated? A 600 can use a 1 3/4" aluminum splined axle without any issues. 2" for up to over a 200hp.
Yes for its racing series, the car has to be like this with the solid axle. They did a newer version of the car that looks a lot better and the aerodynamics is improved a lot, they also put an engine from MT09 so it has more power as well, but it still has that axle in the back. I have seen the new ones going and especially the solid rear axle seems to be a big weak point of the whole car.
Love it! I want one
The comments this video was able to generate with the overtakes while the red was waving has got to be the best way to tell apart people that actually go to trackdays and those that only watch racing online and think they are experts. People completely ignorant of the fact that the red here only means box this lap. You know who you are and im calling you out to rub your noses in it! You people talk so surely of yourselves, so confident you're correct, you will never live this shame down and ill make sure of it.
@@AGRacingLtd someone feels rather called out don't you? If you knew anything at all, you wouldn't have jumped to that conclusion about the flags and realized that if he's just casually overtaking several cars under red, there's probably a good reason. Never been on a track in your life have you? Listing experience that you don't have is a common tactic to try and win an Internet argument. It shows. Obvious LARPer.
@@AGRacingLtd cool story bro. Just moving goalposts and making random excuses in the vain hopes of winning an Internet argument. Sad. You wouldn't have even responded to my original comment in the first place if it didn't apply to you as it clearly does with your 5 month old YT acct with no vids. LARPer!
And he's deleted his comments. 💀💀💀 I'm crying. What a loser.
@@sprolyborn2554 you the one writing novels...
@@mishaisspeed4081 you're the one feeling called out enough to reply.
Also a thing, if u filmed the pit walk with the same phone u use in the car it might explain why the footage is so shaky. Vibrations usually break the optical stabilisers of the lens in a phone
I was filming the walk while riding on an electric scooter, steering it with one hand and filming with the other :D It ended up pretty shaky :D In the car I was using the insta360 camera. Next time I might do everything with the insta360 see how it would turn out...
Really cool! Mom team is always the best team lol
Nice man but we need to see more!
I will record more on the next trackday :) would you be interested in seeing a direct comparison with a road car? I might have a change to drive 340hp jaguar on the track next time so I could do a bit of a comparison, including the laptimes I manage with both
@@RacersRushCars sounds great!
Swap the 1.8t from vw easy to tune used to be in formula 4 cars back in the day. But then again might need to extend the bay a bit to make it fit
the sound of your "formula 600" is really good :)
It sounds really epic, I will include a flyby sound in the next video
@@RacersRushCars hey thanks for that 😎👍
"My team is my mum" Epic lol
hahaha :) Could not do it without her help
OMG THAT LOOKS SOO FUNN
Hahaha it is amazing!
A turbo rotary would be great 😂
This thing is absolutely sick, one of the very best ways to spend 7k or so.
WOOOWOWWO that it so cool my dream is to be in a formula car that is very fast
This engine is from Honda CBR 600 F2/F3/Hornet PC34/Hornet PC36. It has smth like 63Nm of momentum and around 96-100KM of power
Put a hayabusa block in, has good torq in low revs, and pulls crazy hard to top speed.
I'm surprised the suspension is so simple; I would've expected either a double wishbone or a multi-link, with 1000 different adjustments for geometry, and maybe pushrods too. At least that's what i've seen in my local Formula Renault (not a modern Formula 4, they are old cars with tube frames qnd _i think_ Renault 12 engines and running arround 120hp iirc)
hi...you bet them all at that price...good job...
This car remembers me of alberto naska racing with it :)
Naska is how I discovered about the car. He made me buy it 😁
@@RacersRushCars amazing 😄, it looked like a really fun car. My favourite ones were the pc15
Years ago I had a kitcar like a caterham. I put a 1000cc R1 engine in it. Modem bigger engines would be even better.
Thats the engine from my Honda Hornet, love the sound
The sound is absolutely increadible. Standing by the pitwall on the straight, it is the best sounding thing there in my opinion
where can i buy it tho
I think the beast deserves a bigger engine. You should see if you can buy a wrecked bike, since you'll have all the needed electronics. You can then add a power commander and with that a quickshifter, so it can get tuned.
But you're smart enough to manage that haha
Awesome race car. I think you should get a more exotic engine like a v4 or a v2. Maybe a sv1000 engine? Those are not very expansive but quite fast.
Nice little fun car. Have you seen Igor Negoda's open wheeler?
I just found it, it looks really great! wow, it is increadible what he managed so far
this car looks cool, you've mentioned the engine's not that powerful, do you have any plan to engine swap it? hayabusa 1300 cc engine maybe?
I am thinking about it, it could use a bit more power :)
The ventriloquy skills in the first seconds of the video are hilarious. To be honest, I was a little disappointed when I saw that you do steer the wheel with your hands.
🤣 that is hilarious, I didn't realize
One of those with a supercharger would be awesome
Pay to win? No.
Pay to play? Yes.
Final results??
A few more horsepower, a diff and even basic independent suspension and you'd be flying!
For sure, it would also be a bit easier to drive.
Not sure if you want to go this route but you could also make it electric would give you a hell amount of torque and wouldnt be too heavy if you use a Li-Ion pack
Could be very interesting, I actually like electric cars and bikes a lot. I think that years ago someone in Italy took a formula like this made it electric and even tried to make it street legal under some exceptions for electric cars back then. I saw a picture of it with a licence plate under the rear wing
the tires are on their last leg n u kept up with a McLame in a corner lol
I think you need to sent your car to the vulcan alpha,they can work on aerodynamic of your car very well (and not only aerodynamics)
The car has a lot that could be very much improved... I love how you get so much fun, thrill and speed for so little money, but of course driving something a bit better would be nice as well 😄
Just out of curiosity, what’s your lap time on Most?
On that day I did 1:58 I think :)
W Mom for supporting you
Is that a formula SAE ?
Im curious,is that an FSAE car?
No, I think the student cars are a bit more advanced :D
This with a zx10 motor would be fun
I am thinking a bit about putting something a bit faster in it
8:51 it is not a 911, it’s a Cayman.
Yep, it was I didn't recognize the car properly while I was narrating the video :D
I would drive a car like that here in Texas to and from work if it were street legal.
I like the noise.
In WV, they recently passed a law allowing side-by-sides to be road legal, I'm wondering if that's a work around to this.
Nobody notice the gorgeous beneli beside him in the pits
That was my ride for the afternoon :D It is a lot of fun too
Any plans to upgrade to a Hayabusa engine and add a turbo to it?
i know a CBR 600 Engine when i see one
haha yep, this is one from a hornet though, i think they were pretty much the same from the outside right?
Most is my favourite track ❤
It's amazing, all types of corners, fast slow a lot of fun
@@RacersRushCars Totally agree!
Man this looks so cool! Where do you have the chassis from?
Better engine, rear diff and this thning gonna flyy
I should bring a motorcycle to a cycling event and see how many people I could beat...