ASUS ROG Flow X13 - The Best 13-inch Gaming Laptop!
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- Review of the 2023 ASUS ROG Flow X13. This is one of the best thin and light gaming laptops you can buy! My unit comes packed with a Ryzen 9 7940 HS CPU and a RTX 4070. Just be careful which GPU you choose. Hopefully this review helps you out.
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I have it as my travel for work laptop and it’s amazing tbh. I’d be lying if I told you I don’t use it more for gaming than for work lol.
Gaming.... Riiiighhhhtttttt. Checking browser history now...
Giggity…
@@whatsdrugsruh roh
same for me :D
How's the battery?
if this is anything like the Zephyrus G14, then Advanced Optimus is off by default for new batches and you have to manually turn it on. There is actually a good reason for that. Both AMD and Intel integrated chipsets require ports to be routed through the iGPU to enable PCIe tunneling, so Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports cannot be connected directly to the dGPU. ASUS standard practice for gaming laptops is to leave at least one USB-C DP alt mode port without Thunderbolt 4/USB4 as the designated direct-to-dGPU port. The HDMI port also is connected to the dGPU. That way you can get maximum performance out of an external monitor whether it is a DP or HDMI display (or both).
While it makes a lot of sense from a performance standpoint, the trouble with that architecture is that, Advanced Optimus works by connecting the laptop display simultaneously to both the iGPU and the dGPU, once as display and once as virtual display, then suspending one driver or the other in software. When Advanced Optimus suspends the dGPU driver, external displays not routed through the iGPU stop working. Having it work that way out of the box obviously causes a whole lot of "OMFG ASUS laptops external displays glitches out all the time" outcries, so they now leave it off by default. People are less likely to pick up pitchforks over Advanced Optimus not being on by default.
Just remember to switch your external monitor to a port connected to the iGPU (in this case, the USB4 port) before you turn on Advanced Optimus.
Was waiting for this review! Thank you 🎉
watching this from the first model (r9 5900 + 1650 maxq), this thing is amazing! gaming, media consuming, even light 4k editing is a breeze. It gets noisy when the fans all get turbo'd up, but not that bad and using a non-noise canceling headphone will already take care of that problem, it looks like this model has a ever so slightly thinner chin compared to my model. so glad that Asus keep updating this model because I would like to upgrade to something similar to this thing down the line. and finger crossed they will always update the xg mobile that goes with this series of laptops. anyway, great content as always, cheers Matthew!
Very helpful video. Thanks for posting
Thanks for the review Matt, I always enjoy them. That's a sweet looking laptop, even with its price and GPU limitations.
Now this laptop is starting to appeal more to me with the surface pen support. Also this laptop is beautifully unique, awesome power and great uses for games, work and digital art. Thanks Matthew
It always supported the Surface Pen. In fact, any MPP 2.0 pen has always worked
Excellent review! I own the same model and I feel the same way about it. I love it but the GPU performance does bother me a bit because it’s really not worth paying the extra money for.
I feel like they have ignored this x13 lineup after last year given how niche it is. If they had put a vapor chamber cooling system in it they could potentially run the gpu @80w which is significantly better than 60w . I wouldn't mind the other quirks that come with it if they did that, also the high price tag would seem more justifiable.
I really dig the new lid design, it looks way better than the previous ones :D
I think so too!
Finally a review
I have the 22 model (R9 + 3050ti) and cant recommend it enough, its amazing how much you get out of it for its size and yes, the touch-screen pen support is much better than you expect. Its not a cheap device, but worth every cent. Highly recommend it
Horrible battery tho
@@steroberry Depends on what you are talking about. On lighter tasks like ms office/chrome for example, i easily get ultra-book levels of battery performance out of it, which is about 13 to 14 hours on silent/efficiency mode and the fans wont come on for a single second during the entire time. It remais macbook levels of silent. Now if you start playing something like RDR2, you should consider yourself lucky if the battery can hold 2 hours and you will probably go deaf by the fans. The whole battery thing is very subjective, when you are buying such a small device that is this powerful, you should know what you are buying. It is obviously not as good on battery as an ultra-book, but then you also wont be playing triple-a titles on the ultra book either. Just stop being obtuse and know what you are getting yourself into and manage your expectations...
@Driftuner I mean I just said what I know. Im not bashing at the thing for having bad battery it just is what it is. 13-14 is pretty crazy, I had the 2022 z13 and as much as I managed my expectations it just got pretty annoying to plug it in less than 3 hours most of the times (obviously not playing games, I never played games unplugged)
@@steroberry oh wow thats seems pretty low...i know the Z13 for some reason consumes more energy than the X and i think the battery might be smaller? but thats is a huge jump to mine...interesting
@Driftuner they're both beautiful devices nonetheless, once tech catches up I'd definitely go back to it
If only the 4050 and 4060 versions had more than 16GB of RAM. The only reason I still want to get the 4070 version is the 32GB of RAM.
If only they existed
@@matthewcherrington2634 literally they arent even a thing
You can upgrade it
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 the gpu?
As someone who got the 2022 version I’m not sure whether to have buyer’s remorse or to be cool with how at least my battery life is better than the newer model lol
I have the AMD Advantage G14 with the Radeon 6800 in it & i don't have issues with it getting too hot. The battery life is INCREDIBLE. I took it on vacation & it lasted 10 hours between charges. I also love that it has type c charging, so i don't have to take my big power brick with me. Oh & it charges fast af. Performance-wise, it's able to run almost every game at max settings at 60fps. I do get a bit more fps if I put it on a laptop cooling pad, but it's not really necessary. I thought i was also going to build a desktop as I've been using the same GTX 980m laptop for like 7 years, but using this thing made me realize how much more powerful gaming laptops have become. My iGPU set to 15 watts beats my old laptops dedicated GPU. I also love the size. It's perfect. Doesnt feel too small or too big. The only complaint I really have is that the white keys can be hard to read in a well-lit room.
This seems like the best compact laptop that can also be used for gaming, so far.
But I would set limiter on its performance (fps/tdp/turbo), to be noise and heat free.
I wish the manufacturers dgave more focus to that aspect.
But I'm ok with having performance that matches a computer from 2-3 years ago, while keeping it cool and silent
But it IS expensive though..
$820 open box
People dismiss tent mode... but it is so effective on flights when you fly coach and your table is as small as an elongated index card
Nice information sir
Did you turn on Dolby Atmos Dynamic Option? It made a huge difference for mine like 50% extra volume.
I love mine with a 4050 but wish it was available with 32GB or RAM was upgradeable. Thought about returning but ultimately ended up keeping it. The screen is really impressive considering it's not an OLED the viewing angles and colors are amazing.
Also wish there was a bit more power but I figure I'll just buy an eGPU if I ever really need it. For 95%+ of my use cases the portability of this thing makes sense.
And with G-Helper instead of Armoury Crate, I get zero fan noise when on Silent. The fans can be pretty controlled in that App.
How did you turn on that Dolby Atmos Dynamic? I have tried tweaking everything sound related but have not seen any significant volume boost.
Great video as always. Wish to see Flow X14 next year.
Fingers crossed!
x13 and x14 won't happen at the same time, if the x14 comes the x13 will be dropped
I love it ribbed. Amazing review as always.
Thanks a ton!
Hey Matt, I also just got this laptop, it's really good, but I have one question regarding the display, is it just me / my unit or are the edges of the display ever so slightly dimmer?
Please also consider reviewing the 2023 x16 too!
Thanks, you helped me to choose the proper version!
Is this USB C charging? Thanks for the review
I have the 2021 version. The heat and cpu management are issues, for which I have workarounds. I have an XG Mobile RTX 3080 and I also have an ROG Ally. I have sold my desktop pc last year: all of my computing needs are met. Business, tablet, desktop gaming, portable gaming. And everything fits in a 15 inch shoulder bag or backpack. Amazing.
what are your workarounds for the heat and cpu?
@@modestas2890 Workround: play N64 titles and below 😀
i would also like to know what 'workarounds' you have for overheating and cpu issues, if you care to share?
This looks incredible!
I have last year model and i did not really understand when Mat said that temperature is controlled better. My laptop on silent stays around 24 Db and you can barely hear it, though i only use silent mode while surfing web, like youtube and what not. On the other hand on performance while playing a game (older game, like kingdoms of amalur 2 - its 3050ti afterall) the noise does go up to like 40, maybe 50 Db, though it is measured through armoury crate, so might be not as accurate. The keyboard temperature does get hot, not very intrusive though, especially since you don't really have controls in middle top really either.
At the end of the day - by no means i am saying buy last year model, unless the price is really that much more lower. I bought the laptop for the design, size and weight - al of these stayed the same/similar. Used to have old 17inch which was massive. This one - beautiful.
The only reason ANYBODY should buy the 4070 is only for the 32gb ram. If you work with VMs a lot professionally then you're sort of forced to because 16 just doesn't cut it anymore these days. Nevertheless, excellent review Mathew 🙏
Thank you!
I agree. On my 2021 model, I do wish I had 32 GB available, but I really Iike this laptop for what it is: A thin and light 2 in 1 laptop that packs a punch.
my workplace tortures me with a 2019 i5 macbook pro with 8gb ram they provide. docker needs ram and i need to open at least 5 tabs on my other monitor and vscode opening a laravel repo + sqlworkbench + slack.
its probably going to kill the ssd soon because i got 12gb page files opening stuff everyday.
hope it dies soon
I'm with you brother. Had to pay extra to get those 32gb. I don't care about 4070, I'm happy with RDNA. 32gb though is a must in 2023 for any self respecting developer
Thank you for saying this. I really was about to change my mind and go for lower models when you reminded me of the RAM. I'm a developer and usually softwares that I work with consume a huge amount of RAM.
This looks tempting. I have a G14 with 3050Ti as my daily, and a Dell Latitude 13 inch 2in1 laptop for work stuff. This thing could replace the need to carry around both machines!
G14 performs better than this. So...yeah, don't think much about replacing it.
Definitely, just add XG mobile to it when you need it, that makes it kinda futureproof also
You say fan noise is always on. Is it also the case when the dedicated nvidia card is disabled?
Could you let me know what level idle fan noises are at?
I got the 23 Igpu with ryzen 9 7940hs, and is the best laptop you can buy quality way higher than G14 and touch screen is awesome. I really love this device worth every penny.
Hello, can using the laptop in tent mode help lower the temperature during demanding games such as God of War, The Witcher 2 or Red Dead Redemption 2?
Finally a tiny but powerful laptop that i will definitely buy....2 years from now.
This thing wouldve been on my buying list this year but the gimped 4070 this gen with 8gb vram (again) which you have to get if you want 32gb ram put it off the list again. Especially since that makes it 1000€ more expensive than the base model. Well plus a slightly better screen. Btw here in germany only the 4070 model comes with a 32 gb option.
This would have been my dream laptop if they offered it without a discreet gpu. The 7940HS can benchmark close to the 1650 when overclocked. It would also increase the battrey life and make room for a full size ssd. Perhaps brand it as the AMD edition.
A version without the dGpu does exist, don't know if it's sold in your region tho
@@timw7406it's not sold in my country. At least not yet.
@@timw7406 It doesn't sadly, probably because of lower demand. I might try buying it from another country. Hopefully one where i can ask a relative to bring it with them 😅
Sounds like you want the rog ally even got 4nm better cpu
It would not increase battery life. Just use the MUX switch on the dGPU model.
I wonder whether ASUS will set this up as a performance Chromebook as there are rumors for gaming Chromebook that are not just doing cloud gaming. This looks like a sweet balance between cloud and local gaming.
How is the fan noise when idling and performing basic tasks like browsing, TH-cam, VScode etc?
Great review! Seems like a nice machine!
well don't think this would completely answer your question but i have the 2020 model of this laptop, and other than gaming and video rendering, you could not even hear the fans armory crate software do a good job on managing the processing power adapting to your usage and when you do basic tasks it won't even turn the Nvidia graphics on. So basically, for basic tasks the laptop will act as if it is a Chromebook or something (and use battery like one too, which means a safe 4-5hr browsing session without charging). because every year the chip usually got less and less hot and power hungry, i think a safe bet is that this one is also do similar to mine.
You nailed it when you said 4050 or 4060 version is perfect, but sadly they aren’t being sold in the US “yet”
Thanks Nick and that sucks! I'm sure it will make it s way to the US soon
4050, is the only one I was able to buy in Canada.
@@garys2157 I wonder if they’ll ship to US ?
@@garys2157 Do you have any recommendations on where to get one in Canada? Might try my luck to see if any will ship to the US
@nickjacobsss I had pre ordered mine on Memorey Express website, still only available online not in stores, or special order, Amazon briefly had it listed as available, but most of the yome it says "unavailable"
I think that if you pay for a 4070 you should either get the performance or the laptop should be priced the same as a 3060ti/3070
4070 performance indeed is tanked by low tdp in x13. But the thing is, 4060 version's performance also is going to be tanked.
Purpose of low tdp 4070 is to match performance of high tdp 4060, as performance of low tdp 4060 is going to be much lower.
pretty awesome to game on this in tent mode with a controller while traveling
Matt you forgot to mention we got a new sticker guy in the game, the Energy Star guy. When he makes an appearance, you know the laptop is special. Unfortunately, he was either out of practice or drinking on the job. His sticker placement was a bit rough on this one....
is the touch screen as good and as smooth as a smartphone ? Thx
Do you recommend this for heavy video editing? I use adobe premiere pro.
Do the Zenbook Pro 14 OLED next! I replaced my 2021 X13 with one and found it a better compromize in power vs size.
What do you get for battery life?
@@Shadowwe1 5,5 to 7h on whisper mode, depending on the screen brightness. The OLED consumes quite a bit above 70%.
Correction: closer to 8hours these days when not working in direct sunlight.
does it detect the orientation of the laptop and rotates the screen? Can you watch movies on it, with keyboard upside down and the screen staying up?
That's called tent mode and it works that way
looks great, though looks like only 16gb versions available in Australia which makes no sense...
I like the concept of this laptop, but it’s very expensive considering you can’t squeeze all the power of the cpu and gpu.
I don;t share that opinion, even though you can't squeeze the power, it is insanly thin and light, IMO its a great compromise
there is a deal in my local store for the asus flow x13 ryzen 9 6900hs , rtx 3050 , 4k 120hz display + the xg mobile egpu for the rx 6850m xt and the stylus for 1400$ including the xg egpu and i am not sure , should i buy it ?
0:34 I didn't expect to learn what that idiom means from an intro of a mini-gaming laptop.
I wish Razer revives the Blade Stealth 13 to bring some competition to the Flow X13
I was able to buy this laptop from Best Buy. I have the 4070 with 32 gig of ram for all the monies.
A couple things in this review are wrong. First, there is advanced optimus mux switching without restarting. It came on by default (or was enabled in an update). I think it might have been enabled when I switched my Nvidia driver from Studio to Game Ready.
Also, this laptop is completely silent and cool when not gaming. Literally no sound. I am in the performance mode in Armory Crate as well.
How is the gaming performance?
Any suggestion for buying laptop from Best Buy US when living in Canada?
Can it be silent if you turn to integrated graphics?
Got the laptop. Now I just need the 4090 XG Mobile.
Any idea if the rog flow x13 6900hs is good for music production? I mainly use ableton/fl studio with vst such as omnisphere/keyscape/kontakt libary
I think 32GB RAM only comes with the 4070 … a comparison between the 4060 and the 4070 in this chassis would be interesting
What do you think of this laptop compare to Lenovo Yoga 9i pro 14"?
same i was wondering about that too
ROG Flow X13 is the best laptop I have ever owned. It does everything.
If the heating problem is resolved in this version, the only issue is that the XG Mobile slot is wasted for most people. If Asus can release a budget-priced XG Mobile device, smaller, without GPU but with the usual collection of extra ports, perhaps with an extra nvme slot or two, it will be great.
I agree with almost everything you mention. The laptop looks awesome, if this is the size you're after, but who wants to pay for those expensive, high-end components only to see them intentionally stunted by the OEM? It feels more like marketing or getting people who don't watch Matt Moniz videos to buy this thinking you are getting the actual performance of a 7940hs and 4070 when, in fact, that is not quite the case. But, on the other hand, the lid is ribbed for your pleasure, and perhaps that is more important than anything else :)
idk man it could get upto 32 gigs of ram but on the 4070 model only, while optimally geting a 4060 model only end up with 16 gigs of memory maxed and soledered
I'm loving the HP style glass screen they incorporated into the Rog Flow X13 but the design is ugh! Not so attractive with those lines going all over the computer. I AlthoughI just purchased the 20222 model Zypherus G14 and am not thinking about purchasing another laptop for a year, I'm good with this one but I do love the design of the X13 (Sounds like a DELL laptop), Just not the gray lines. They shouldbe made it all black. I also love the fact it's a 2-1. I don't see too many 2-1 gaming laptops. Anyone? I'm sure there are plenty. Guess I just never paid attention.
In my place nvidia 4050 model and only 16 gb with old screen is 3.000$ 😢
Did you try benchmarking in "Turbo" mode? I got an extra 6 average fps in cyberpunk on my 4060, but the fans and temps ramps up quite a bit.
Did you turn FSR off? Even when you set the Ultra high profile it leaves it on. Yes it was in turbo mode
So do you recommend getting the 6800HS 3050 Ti variant with 32 GB RAM?
would you choose this over a fully specd alienware x14? i just wish alienware had something similar to the ROG XG Mobile.
can i charge the laptop while playing games on the external mobile usbc port
7:52 What uses so much more power that the battery, with increased size over 2022 model, gives less runtime?
Whats the best gaming laptop under 1200£? I lve been looking for a one so far i have considered the 2022 helios 300, asus tuf A16 and a few more but im not quite aure what to get
The rtx 4070 uses around 100w max, regardless of the rated TGP (voltage limitation...). At 60w, the RTX 4070 scores a timespy score of +-10000, while at 100w it tops out at 12500. So a noticable difference, sure, but that's still +-80% of the max achievable score at 100w. (a 4060 running at 100w scores about 10500). So it makes sense to use a 4070 as it will have more RT cores than say a 4060.
You make a good point but whats even more important is sustained performance. Scores don't matter if the CPU & GPU can only hit them and go back to their idle temps. I don't know about the 4000 Series NGreedia mobile GPUs but manufacturers weren't doing well w the 3000 series in laptops (in this area) and these really thin laptops were especially disappointing.
PS - just saw that the fan noise is louuuud on this 🙆♂
I had a x13 2021 5950 (or was it 80?) with 32gb and it had an unpleasant high pitch fanprofile until you used ghelper to silence it under moderate loads. I loved the XG mobile dock 3080 with its generous 16gb VRAM. (this combined with a X16 would have been a better purchase in hindsight...) My current zenbook pro 14 fares much better and is overall a better laptop price performance and feature wise. But if you want a really portable real 2in1 the X13 is hard to beat. Just use a noise cancelling headset under load I guess.@@zerocal76
How does it compare to a macbook pro in terms of Adobe & Autodesk software?
3:40 you have interesting taste in music
Looks like the iGPU variant is where to buy.
I'd like one for college use, if I wanna game on it I could connect it XG mobile 4090.
will there be a review on the z13?
When the GPU is running in tent mode I have a cable or something inside hitting a fan. Do you have that issue with yours?
can you give me a link to wallpaper/?
the random nicky minaj and ice spice music video for reference killed me for some reason LOL
Good laptop might chip powerful graphic ray tracing
Im so torn because theres so many bad reviews on all the big sites and I dont want to get a lemon lol
Great review, but based on what you're saying, this laptop does not have Advanced Optimus. If it did, switching the MUX switch wouldn't require a reboot.
But I have the 2021 RTX 3050 Ti version of this laptop, and apart from missing the MUX switch, I am happy with my laptop. (Although it did brick on me, Asus did send me over a complimentary replacement and it has been rock solid on both Windows 10 (the Ryzen 5000 version comes with Windows 10, as Windows 11 wasn't out at the time this laptop was released), and even Linux. And yes, the tablet mode is killer; if you put it in tent mode, the thermals get REALLY good.
Can we expect a review of the x16?
I still prefer the duo as notebook, but this is my second choice
While watching I new it was going to be expensive because its everything I want.
how to turn on Variable refresh rate? mine has only 2 options. 60hz or 165hz. Anyone help? thx
Im only interested in 32gb of ram and no dedicated gpu. Would be my dream laptop.
Can you do 4k video editing on the rtx 4050 model?
what'd the VRAM of the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (60W)?
4:10 Hey, do all W11 gaming laptops nowadays have this feature?? (The Dynamic Refresh Rate)
No not all laptops will switch the refresh rate automaticly so you will have to go into settings for cheaper gaming laptops like certain tuf and cyborg laptops
I'm here for the anime wallpaper WHERE IS IT?!!?!
0:41 literally spit-take 🤣
Now I want a 16 inch version of this unit, it would be a perfect productivity 2 in 1 thin and light performance laptop, only if that exists.
What about the Flow X16 ;)?
@@simon7861 wait no way i missed that, they actually have one D:
I got mine the other day. Ita 32gb 4070 amazing
Is this better for software use like for interior designer
Could be this laptop good for photo an video editing?
Wish I could actually buy this laptop
Buying the 4070 is Worth If you want the Most Performance. I'll use it as basically a 3 in 1: Laptop, Tablet and PC. And If you wanna use IT as a PC replacement youre gonna want all the extra Power you can get.
Is this comes with fingerprint reader sensor?
Please do specify the 3060ti version, it can easily be misunderstood as a desktop 3060ti which is definitely not correct. Probably you are referring to performance equivalent of a mobile 3060ti if it existed, which makes more sense. Still it is a bit confusing :)
Can we upgrade RAM to 32Gb in 4050 or 4060 RTX série by changing 2x8Gb RAM to 2x16Gb ? They talk about 16Gb as max support