The Supercharged Ford Raptor R Takes On The New Gold Hill Torture Test. Does it Survive?
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This towing test should always be performed alongside the Ike Gauntlet. Perfect combination of tests to truly see how these vehicles behave and are able to keep temps in check.
This test is going to ruin a lot of vehicles. Speeds are low and it's steep at times.
@@kennetho5393 Yes! That's the point! They have the tools to monitor temps, set "tapout" temps for oil, coolant and transmission fluid and let's see how they do!
@@mikem9468 I'm just saying the RaptorR is well equipped to handle this type of abuse and trans temps were up there. This hill is going to fry lesser trucks, which is a good chunk of them. I do think manufacturers should be doing this test though for extreme use.
@@kennetho5393 Yes! You put a tow rating on there, TFL should test the vehicle at that tow rating up this hill! Honda says the Pilot can tow 5,000 lbs, lets hook up a trailer with a side by side or whatever to 4,000 or 4,500 and run it up this hill! DO IT!!!!
@@mikem9468 These tow ratings should not be meant to cover everywhere at max load and especially steep inclines at low speeds. All a manufacturer can do is test as much as possible with extremes that a customer might replicate. There are no guarantees in the event that a vehicle has been run to the maximum. I would say a 3/4 or one ton and beyond would be the exception but regular vehicles such as half ton and below are designed for regular use mainly. Of course the tow ratings would then be considered exaggerated, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know towing 12k-14k or even 8.1k pounds with a half ton in this manner will be bad. Just because my car is track ready doesn't mean I can run it all day and expect no issues.
When I hit the lottery I'll have me a Raptor 🎉😂😢
Or any Ford truck.
Least you’ll have the money to fix them
@@mkrause45 you damn right I would and would love every minute of it.
You're never going to get rich with that mentality.
Rich people don't play money games they know they're going to lose.
The lottery was created by the government in order to get people to voluntarily give them more of their income.
It's predatory, and it's illegal for everyone else but the government.
Stop being a fool and start making smart decisions, and someday you may be able to afford a Raptor.
Apply to be a route sales representative for one of the many linen services like Alsco Aramark or unifirst save your money for 6-10 years you’ll be able to have what you want. Last tip dont complain about ANYTHING. Addressing problems and solving them is different
Nathan, Andre, and Mr. Truck are definitely my favorite people on this channel
Glad to see Andre back to checking brake temps, he just needs to speak in Russian to us again 😁
So good to see Andre and Mr. Truck every Saturday!
The temps on the Ford, are because of the way it is cooled. The Ford has water to air intercooler, oil to water engine oil cooler, and the transmission oil cooler is also oil to water. Advantage is the heat can be faster dissipated from the individual components. Trade off is the average temps are higher.
Where as the Ram and GM have oil to water engine oil coolers, and everything else is oil to air. Issue with this is, once the component gets hot it's slower to dissipate the heat. So it looks better upfront (lower initial temps) but once it gets hot you have to stop working it so it can cool.
Exactly what happened to the chevy overheated. Ford didn’t better system with Ford. Works similarly to jumping into a 75f pool cools you faster than 75f wind
Want to see more Andre and Mr Truck. These guys are the best!!! Just like the Good Ol Days.
I would really like to see you do this test with a 2021 Tundra. The truck WITHOUT the transmission cooler.
Did you do this test with a TRX? If not I’d love to see it!
Low fuel warning ⚠️ coming on … Mr. Truck … “Well, that’s not really good, who is in charge of this project” … and Andre is skating on thin ice !!!
That made my day 😉.
😂😂😂😂😂
Big improvement in capabilities. The original Raptors were, in my opinion, purpose built toys. I think this new Raptor is a real earnest do-it-all truck for an outdoor enthusiast or other hobbies. For me, it could serve horse, boat, and camper hauling duty, besides off-road play time. It needs to at that price.
They still are purpose built toys. This one even more so lol, with 700hp. The Raptor is a purpose built Baja truck, period. Ford has work trucks, if someone needs one.
oh yeah sure because outdoor enthusiast really need a 700hp pickup right?
@@Tonyx.yt. This truck is not about "need"... Not everything in life is. Lol
I love this! I love seeing this type of real-world testing because this is how I tow with my vehicles and it's very interesting to see the comparisons
Thanks guys great show boy like know road is next time go up for some scenic overview. When we come back to visit y’all in Colorado hopefully next year
This towing test is a beast!
Andre and Mr Truck are the best pair at TFL 👍 My favorite videos. Thanks
Do a 0-60 with stubby on the trailer versus on it's own. Perhaps it's faster behind the Raptor?
Ya did it again. Loved it 😁
Great video
I would love to see the Tremor 3.5 Ecoboost perform this task.
The most realistic part of the video is Stubby on the back.
Good job guys!
Ford thermostats their transmission in the 230s right? Nothing to worry about. Look up transmission fluid stats. The fluid will take way more heat than 230 and be fine.
I think the thermostat is set to open at like 190 or 195.
Can't wait for more Torture Tests with that scenery... Gold Hill's surface has barely been scratched, but maaan am I keen for more! Great vehicles, too btw 😂 Would've been interesting to see the Raptor R and Wrangler 392 go back to back up and down with Stubby behind em!
I know this was tops on your overhyped list but, it's THE best all around work/play 1/2 ton today. It's only flaw is availability and, unlike athletes, it's best ability isn't availability.
It's still a Ford.
@@TheXOoftheRO You have a dodge in your pfp💀. How many transmissios has your truck went through?
another flaw might be the price tag.
Mr T.... Golden humor for gold hill😅
Great video Mr Truck and Andre
I would have been in manual mode going up hill also. All that shifting, up and down, probably made the temperature go up rapidly!!!
This is serious might be dangerous for you guys, but it helps me so much (plus I love watching the drama 🎭)
Andre who is that guy with you, I didn't recognize him without his beard lol
When will you test the Super Duty 6.7HO Tremor?
Watching the boys with coffee always a good time
Watch with a rum and coke? Even better!
@@robertyoung8289 I should try that 🤣
Of course it survives😊
Time to change those fluids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"when I only spoke Russian". haha
If I could afford one, i would buy a Raptor R. Nice truck. I just bought a 3500 Duramax, so im done for awhile...
Would love to see the new at4 duramax try this
Any chance do this with Andre’s Colorado?
On a slow downhill, you could use Low range, for a bit extra engine braking
At 11:04 of the video the oil pressure is at 110 psi??? Hmmm.....that doesn't make sense.
Love this test. I agree it would be great to do Ike and Gold Hill back to back.
Andre is my favorite Russian and my favorite on the channel.
New pickup owner here btw (thanks to Andre). I am getting RT tires and trying to decide between D and E load. I will use the truck (23 Tundra 1794 with TRD PKGE) for overlanding and camping. Maybe some moderate towing but nothing too nuts. Would a D load tire be enough or should I go with an E load tire? The tire is a Falken Wildpeak RT - 35s. They already are heavy tires at D load (76 lbs) and E load would be 79 lbs. Thoughts?
Get E. I have a Ram 2500 and put MT Baja boss ATs load level E on my truck. Es can handle more weight but it also has more plys which makes it stronger.
@@LucasLeCompteMusic I am tempted. The Tundra is more of a 1500 class truck but I get your point. That said the RT0 D-load tire is a 10ply with a 3 ply sidewall. The main thing you seem to get with the E load is more rubber on the tread. Tread depth on the D load is 16/32nd. Tread depth on the E load is 20/32nd which adds 3 pounds per tire to the mix. Do you all think more tread depth will equal more noise?
@@rlaracue My Baja boss MTs are E and 34.5 inches and are super quiet on the road. My moose mirrors make more noise grapping air than my tires make noise on the road. My old Transforce POS tires that came on the truck made more noise than my Baja boss ATSs, which have way more grip. I think noise is more how the tread is designed.
Supercharger vs turbocharger...which lasts longer in average conditions???
It would be nice to see this truck go threw sand pulling this trailer on 4WD in action 💪🏼
I like this test better than the ike.
Hey Mr. Truck!
First time testing the Chevy silverado the outside temperature was 95 degrees you doing this test around 64 to 70 degrees not the same conditions
It is almost as if this is entertainment, not science.
Chevy trucks owner detected
The NEW WORLDS Tuffest towing test..
I know if I was Kent I would have been very uncomfortable with the fuel level. Andre was cutting it too close for comfort to be doing a towing test, pretty ballsy to keep on trucking damn near empty. YOLO!
Lets see the ranger please
Who’s in charge of this project??? We didn’t Fill up at the start…..to test MPG.
Need recommendations, I have a 2012 Tacoma sitting at 164,000ish miles. I have an option to take over a 2020 Ram Rebel sitting at 48,000ish miles. Would I be wise to keep my Tacoma till the wheels fall off or taking over the Rebel? Just not sure about the Rebels reliability
I'd take my chance on a ram over any other make. My 2010 1500 5.7 hemi has 232k miles and been great.
I’m assuming you mean take over payments. What’s left on the principal? What’s the truck worth? How clean is it? Service records?
@@BrianBourgeois- Pretty much. Want to say what’s left is just under $35,000. KBB has it listed between $43,000-$48,000. It’s in outstanding condition and as of now that’s all I can say. I haven’t really gotten into the meat and potatoes of it yet. Had one recall with the tailgate and we had that taken care of
The wise thing is to avoid debt if possible. Good luck
Keep the Toyota trust me
Seems like too much variability to really come to a conclusion about how any of these trucks will perform. The Ike is decent since it's really just making sure you adhere to the required speeds, here I feel each run can look vastly different from one another.
It pains me to hear it shifting up and down all the time. I get they’re trying to let the truck just do it’s own thing but in real world you would switch it manual and pick a gear or limit it from upshifting all the time. I wish they would program that into these tow/haul modes.
My tow haul mode is pretty good about holding gears if you maintain a relatively constant speed. On a tricky route like this, I think the driver has to provide some input as the truck simply cannot know what is coming up next whether it is needing acceleration, braking, turning etc.
Im sure its Andre, I watched his electric vehicle tow test and electric vehicle shows power usage %, he uses the throttle like an on and off switch, cant maintain the speed on Ike, so I'm thinking this gold hill is no different hence why trans temps so high
This is a great video. So much information to take in and with Mr. Truck's input, anyone should trust a purchase of a truck with Andre and Mr. Truck's stamp of approval. I love all these towing videos. I don't know if the views warrant it but I'd like to see this, the Ike Gauntlet, and the 100 mile loop test on every towing vehicle. I know it would require a lot of time but if the views are there you could pull others in to help. Get Kase or Alex or the other Alex a CDL. That could be a whole other series. Just my two cents. I'll watch regardless.
If I was on the show i would push the trucks till limp mode,drive them till it brakes, isn't that the perpose
What you forgot to get the rainbow paint scheme!?
And if it did imagine how embarrassing it would be for the competition to get manhandled by a rainbow truck ☠️☠️☠️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
6:19 that's exactly the problem with just showing the values. Without context, they're fairly useless. An actual gauge is what's needed.
Andre: Transmission temperature is 239!!!!
Mr. Truck: 🙄
Andre said he would be concerned if trans temp got over 235. Mr. Truck said “235, really?” You can tell he has so much experience that he know that is no big deal because he’s seen much worse in his time.
When Mr. Truck asked about the low fuel and who was in charge of taking care of that Andre was 👀. Videos with Mr. Truck are always great.
Can't afford such things. I still have a 1992 Chevy. Z71 longbed 3/4 ton great truck. < Poor man
10 speed the same in the GM and ford?
Yes I believe so.
Not quite, 10L140 and 10R140 are a little different in the tuning/OD etc.
Cab drone alone is enough for me to keep my eco boost. Makes me
Nauseous
Very bad transmission programming, all the time hunting for gears in such steep hills
I imagine it's very difficult to tune a 10 speed with continuously varying throttle input (from going up switchbacks) to always be in the right gear. With it being in tow/haul you'd think it would err on the side of more rpm.
That’s what made that tranny so hot, was the slippage when shifting uphill with a load, I bet if they held 2nd or 3rd all the way up the tranny wouldn’t have gotten so hot
He said let me put it in Awd even though it said 4x4 shift. AWD & 4X4 not the same
They never get the two right
You can see on the bottom of the screen it says “4A” which is AWD. Ford just uses 4x4 shift in progress for all their messaging on pickups
@@Austin-iq7ds 4A is Auto 4wd. 4A
@@EGGINFOOLS actually - 4Auto. In 14th Gen f150s power is fed through a borg warner torque on demand transfer case. It uses a system of clutches to vary the power front and rear based on a multitude of factors including but not limited to: steering angle, throttle position, drive mode, windshield wiper status, outside air temperature, etc. to me and TFL - that constitutes AWD. Varied power based on need and slips as needed to allow for turning without binding…
1:55 Russians sure do have a strange definition of straight.🤔
I thought he was Austrian
@@cobrademon761 he has a Russian surname
@Cobra Demon WHAT??? NO! He's Russian.
Electric fans should turn on at 210, on high they should cool it,if was my truck that hot trans ,id check into a software update for fan come on early
❤this is why i dont buy used vehicles 😂
Mr truck acting like he hasn’t been on a dozen of these
Now try an EV truck or SUV/CUV on this test. Too bad you sold your F-150 Lightning before it was developed. Is the Hummer EV an option? Get a truck from Rivian?
Looked awfully close to running out of fuel.
You get worried?
Hillo mister short tong feel lazy when I hear your voice
It wouldn't be a TFL video without poor audio leveling and bad in-cabin audio...
The base model Ram can tow itself too. The difference is the Ram will still be driving in 3 years 😁
Junk 😂
@@freedomisntfree_44 yeah your life only depends on them 🤣
@@TheXOoftheRO that’s why I don’t drive a pos ram 😂
Haha lol is that the case for all the TRX's falling a part on TRX Fails page?? HUNDREDS of low mileage/brand new TRX's falling a part, look it up 😂😂😂🫵🫵🫵
Do the test in July when it's hotter
They stopped 2 Give the R a break….lol
They stop at the top of the hill every time they do this test.
The Colorado overheated 😂
When I hear 5.2, I think Mopar. Whats happening here?
Nah, the Chrysler 5.2 was most commonly known as the 318. Great engine BTW.
Much different than the 105 hp that dodge had 😂
I like Mister's truck, but sometimes I feel like his mocking attitude towards Andres' concern for mechanical sympathy is a little off-putting.
When he only spoke Russian 😂.
12:15 , yeah old days when you played dumb( Chaplin) style. You was the clown of the team with your Russian hat
Real world you would deselect your gears to 6th or 7th gear in tow/haul mode and fluctuate all the way down and up from 1to6 as you see fit on the speed your going.
I pitty the fool
Drone much... wow I couldn't imagine cross country in that thing.
Yeah, the engine noise would stop being “cool” after 15 minutes.
That's what I was thinking the entire time. Came to the comments to see if I was the only one.
Nice truck,but it is not a daily driving work truck.....it is a rich toy for people willing to pay an extravagant amount of money for it....I mean it "could do" regular truck things but it is far from practical.....🤷♂️.....this vid proves that....
The Raptor would be in deep trouble repeating the test on a hot summer day. Kind of disappointing for the all mighty truck.
I don't know what's the point of that when most people can't afford that....
Anyone who saying the Raptor is the smoothest riding truck they’ve been in must have been only driving Fords their entire life. Ram limited and GMC Denali much smoother with no jitter our bounce over humps.
A raptor does ride better than those 😂 one word. Suspension. And the one n the raptor is much smoother.
How stupid can one be? Raptor literally has the better suspension. Bigger shock DA, dampening per corner/breakover/approach/departure, travel and much more, than Ram and GM..
What factory Ram or GM has completed the Baja 1000 or is the official chase truck?
And if they are equipped with the better suspension then elaborate why everyone in the UTE4400 uses Fox Live Valves not Kings/Bilstein garbage.
@@NutButDontTella Better in what way and for what purpose is the question? I’m sure the Raptor has a smoother ride for when you a driving at high speeds over sand dunes, through rivers and mountains…but for daily driving on pavement it’s not the best. But yes - driving on the sand dunes is the Sarah desert it’s excellent! 😂
@cl3410 Truck kills it in barstow. Elaborate how any of what I said makes for a worse ride on pavement? Still haven't acknowledged or refuted anything I said 🥱
After you're done beating around the bush, post your car lol 😆
@@cl3410 the raptor still the best riding truck on or off-road. Literally people saying this all the time that drive these. Do you know what a damn raptor is kid?
Why would anyone want one of those overblown gashogs?
Burnt that transmission fluid. 240 is too hot.
No it's not. Not even close
@@EGGINFOOLS ok if you say so but my very good friend has owned a transmission shop for 37 years so I’m pretty sure he know more than you.
@@rhod8201 Your friend? Not you? You aren't the expert? Just your friend? 😂. If your friend has worked on the new 10spd enough to now 240 is too hot let us all know why then. Also, trans fluid is rated way higher than 240. If you actually knew instead of having to take your friends word then maybe you really know
@@EGGINFOOLS to answer your dumb question. No I am not an expert. He is. That why I ask the question.
@@rhod8201 250 for synthetic atf is in the yellow area on a 5.0 f150. Not even close to being too hot at 240. You " expert buddy" needs to learn more about todays synthetic fluids. Not fluids from the 80s. Your buddy probably still thinks the outlets in your house are 110v too. I suspect you don't have a buddy.
$100,000 truck big fail.
Post your $5K Honda lololol 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️
Raptor is a good name for this truck. With its ridiculous price tag, terrible fuel economy and complete and utter lack of any practicality I have to believe that trucks like this are ripe for the dust bin of history. To be honest in 2023 this truck even looks stupid.
Man… if … IF .. I ever considered a Ford , I’d get an SLT, Coyote… and order the supercharger with it, add dealer lift ,.. all under warranty and save a ton!!! Ford is ridiculous. Quality control is garbage with them now.
Raptor es power