Here Is Why the New 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R Has Less Horsepower Than the Ram TRX

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  • @stepabove2136
    @stepabove2136 ปีที่แล้ว +212

    Andre is the best most professional person on tfl I hope he never leaves.

    • @clevejason
      @clevejason ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I couldn’t agree more - he deserves a partnership or profit sharing

    • @FlatOutNorth
      @FlatOutNorth ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lol Andre we all know this is you on a personal account

    • @timsmothers8740
      @timsmothers8740 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm just extremely happy That Ford has realized that They need Andre, and The TFL Platform and have come back to allowing them such Great access to The Build-up and Release of Their Vehicles.
      Together they do a really good job of covering all that entails the new upgrades to the Raptor and the why Fords that they did it The way they did. And some day in The Future I, can see Tommy alongside Andre,getting more involved in The Evolution of TFL And also having a deep knowledge of what The future Holds in New truck and other vehicles design. Ike To The Pike and Their Loops the have to squeeze out The Real World mileage testing. And don't forget the Dino Care LoL.
      And please keep The Dino Powered Vehicles Coming. Watts are fine for getting the groceries but so far that's about all !

    • @mdjak3686
      @mdjak3686 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timsmothers8740 absolutely agree. Andre is the best. Roman, on the other hand? Nah, he's pretty good too. But that Tommy boy. lol.

    • @klngzgh0st355
      @klngzgh0st355 ปีที่แล้ว

      man if he starts his own channel we all have to sub so he can grow as fast as possible.

  • @ebnhahn1993
    @ebnhahn1993 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We are waiting for part 2 Andre!. Great content as usual👍👍

  • @lucaceleb2536
    @lucaceleb2536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “We need to accept that we won’t always make the right decisions, that we’ll screw up royally sometimes―understanding that failure is not the opposite of success, it’s part of success.”

  • @MikeTarlton
    @MikeTarlton ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Ford out there testing parking garage clearance with the Raptor R. Good video as always!

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Idk who Ford chooses as their aesthetic designers but man they make a super expensive truck sure look like a super expensive truck. This thing as a presence to it.

    • @michaelj1232
      @michaelj1232 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAnnoyingBoss so does a hearse

  • @lancescimeca4855
    @lancescimeca4855 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Pure awesome sauce! Now if I can only get the right numbers to come up on my next Lotto ticket, I'll take one! Thank you TFL, always great content. Can't wait to see you guys put one through it's paces and here your thoughts of the Raptor R vs the TRX.

    • @rp1645
      @rp1645 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES you need to win a gift to make PAYMENTS
      Just got a very Low mileage 2021 3500 Z-7-. HD Chevy Pickup. (12000 miles) my payments are over $1000 a month. Had to have that Duramax Allison combination. Saw at Con- Expo Con- Agg in Las Vegas a few years back. The Allison booth had a heavy duty Allison all apart for show purpose. What a built workhorse of a Transmission.The Allison has been used for many years in Garage/ Fire Rigs ( heavy stop and go workouts) That was my Dream owning that Transmission. I have always been a Ford guy. But Ford Salesmen were just plan Jerks. Would NOT even talk to me unless I gave them MONEY to be on the wait list. Wouldn't even talk about his used low mileage Pickups unless I gave them money. The Dodge and Chevy Dealers took my 2000 Ford ( 64000 miles) all my mileage service has always been done by Dealer,Recorded in service Logs. Not even a test drive or gave me trade in value. This is the BIG one both different brand makers of Trucks. Did NOT expect me to buy their trucks. They both did a computer search of what they had in LOW mileage New Truck, NO expecting me to BUY that Day. I like the Cummins Diesel also.

    • @e.l.9589
      @e.l.9589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We have enough viewers to pitch in on a group buy, we just have to timeshare our turn.

    • @Lamtitude
      @Lamtitude ปีที่แล้ว

      Please don’t say those first 3 words again. It’s so cringy that I couldn’t even type the words.

  • @saddist1Gtown
    @saddist1Gtown ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Andre has really come on a long way.. I can remmebr when he was very hesistant and shy on camera and could not speak English very well.. Kudos to TFL I thouroughly enjoyed the Video and Andre's presentation skills and style...

    • @creigmacc
      @creigmacc ปีที่แล้ว +10

      His English was always fine. It was his "Russian Mechanic" character you are referring to.

    • @LafemmebearMusic
      @LafemmebearMusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it was a bit they played when he first joined lol

    • @laughingizdacure4975
      @laughingizdacure4975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He should start his own channel. I’d
      Definitely subscribe

  • @iUsefull
    @iUsefull ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We love the details too, Andre! Thank you!

  • @Ram-vt3rm
    @Ram-vt3rm ปีที่แล้ว +45

    That Ford representative needs to audition for the next season of storage wars.

    • @devonr9553
      @devonr9553 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i was gonna say why is he yelling? lol

    • @JonesingUSAF
      @JonesingUSAF ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s like that Samuel Jackson skit from Chapelle Show. “Why are you yelling? I’m not yelling, it’s the way I talk!”

    • @Jcruises_
      @Jcruises_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “UUhh,hmmm, uuuhhh”.. he didn’t know what the fck was going on.

    • @TheWizard86
      @TheWizard86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He’s the chief engineer, he knows what the “fck” is going on.

    • @Jcruises_
      @Jcruises_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheWizard86 it didn’t sound like it. you ever been recently hired somewhere new? That’s what he sounds like

  • @sagecornelius2466
    @sagecornelius2466 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I think the coolest thing is that they fit a 37" spare under the bed instead of just wasting bed space like so many others.

    • @kg0311
      @kg0311 ปีที่แล้ว

      True that's huge

    • @NoNegotiations
      @NoNegotiations ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but most people dont even use the truck bed.

  • @dads2006gt
    @dads2006gt ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Always great information! Thank you. Waiting for the R vs TRX videos 😍

    • @B86432
      @B86432 ปีที่แล้ว

      why are u gonna buy one? lol

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @dads2006gt
      @dads2006gt ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@B86432 I work at DTP , I test the Raptors along with all other F150's. Been with FMCO for 28 years so I am interested to see how they match up "lol".

    • @B86432
      @B86432 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dads2006gt do something about my Ford stock then in the gutter

  • @TREVORJB101
    @TREVORJB101 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Not a Ford guy, but this is badass.

  • @kenyongillespie8652
    @kenyongillespie8652 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great truck! Thanks Carl from Ford and Andre and cameraman for a great video! I would love to have a Raptor R I know the ride would be amazing.

  • @chadkent1241
    @chadkent1241 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Cool review and break down of what makes it better than the previous versions. I think it's smart to go for a balance rather than a numbers war. Its gonna be awesome!!

    • @agentcarder
      @agentcarder ปีที่แล้ว

      Smart however weird, ford loves number wars

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is why I keep saying that the Raptor is a BETTER TRUCK than the TRX. If I had halo truck money, even if the Raptor R were off the table, I would still choose a Raptor over the TRX.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The numbers are getting to a point where it becomes nonsensical for day-to-day use, anyway -at least for the top trims.-

    • @diesel6916
      @diesel6916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always thought the TRX was just #'s and unusable power

    • @e.l.9589
      @e.l.9589 ปีที่แล้ว

      Size doesn't matter babe, unless of course you're packing.

  • @WolfHowl71
    @WolfHowl71 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome work, thanks for this! Looking forward to seeing TFL getting one of these "R" trucks!

  • @williemaykit7940
    @williemaykit7940 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video Andre! Those were some good displays and good information.

  • @bash6519
    @bash6519 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the break down and different exhibits. Love to see one for Braptor

  • @deranged731
    @deranged731 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great detailed inside look! Glad to nerd out with you guys.

  • @82mattlopez
    @82mattlopez ปีที่แล้ว +237

    Took the TRX for them to bring back a v8

    • @Tegridynews
      @Tegridynews ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Fr fr Thank you Dodge

    • @B4Uagain
      @B4Uagain ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sad... Ford also screwed customers with over the air updates on NO tuning available in the Mustang.

    • @nafsucof
      @nafsucof ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@B4Uagain ??? There is tuning availability through multiple proven manufacturers including whipple. Is whipple not enough for you? Sad? your comment is sad…

    • @superduty6.0
      @superduty6.0 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yup
      And who is Ram copying?
      And all they did was make a pavement stop light truck to impress the no one watching imaginary admires

    • @superduty6.0
      @superduty6.0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tegridynews trx started the segment? With a pavement queen to drag race on loser stop lights w their imaginary girlfriend ha ha

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Carl for all the information.

  • @DKLabs99
    @DKLabs99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting when they talked about the voodoo block as well as the amount of horsepower it puts out. Thanks for your content. Always good stuff

  • @ed8235
    @ed8235 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really cool truck. I’d love a Trx or a Raptor R. Some day for sure!

  • @dr.tobiasgoodfellow5174
    @dr.tobiasgoodfellow5174 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who in their right mind would take such an expensive and heavy vehicle jumping and to the dunes when there are fantastic side by sides made for that for a fraction of the cost. Only media outlets and TH-camrs perhaps. You could get the most expensive side by side, a brand new half ton truck and trailer and still come out ahead.

  • @randysrestoration
    @randysrestoration ปีที่แล้ว

    Great RaptorR vid! best most informative one yet. Can't wait for my RaptorR to show up as a stable mate to my Street version RaptorR 700hp/700tq but only 3900 lbs.

  • @a1qcaguy
    @a1qcaguy ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLY COW. I have restarted this video 4 times now. A lot of good technical information.

  • @db3837
    @db3837 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ford: Removing the torsen front diff was a mistake. Brake based traction control systems suck because:
    1. It can easily be overwhelmed in high traction demand situations, such as when one wheel is off the ground,
    2. It can overheat the brakes,
    3. It requires the brakes to be in good working order (older brakes will not work as well),
    4. It's often slow to react.

    • @stevevice9863
      @stevevice9863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree. I prefer mechanical components rather than computer controlled electronic gizmos. Off roading should require some driver involvement instead of just being a passenger in a computer on wheels.

    • @markbuckholz3184
      @markbuckholz3184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Torsen diffs are not very robust.

    • @db3837
      @db3837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markbuckholz3184 I would prefer an E-locker like the Ram Power wagon or Chevy ZR2

    • @tallll70
      @tallll70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen break based awd react in half wheel spin while true vectoring axles on Hondas took several wheel spins on same test, but that was slow crawling speed, I would still not want to have breaks used for traction in high speed runs... I guess it's fine for getting unstuck in slow speeds

    • @ProjectFairmont
      @ProjectFairmont ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you ever had a brake bias system? I felt them same until I realized how effective and robust they can be. Easier to replace pads vs locker clutches 😂

  • @machfive916
    @machfive916 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Great video. So glad Ford finally decided to offer a V-8 option again. Although the twin turbo V-6 Raptors are super capable, they simply can't match the sound of a V-8. Throw in the supercharger and revised suspension, and you've got a beast. Can't wait till TFL gets to test it.

    • @ubeuonly
      @ubeuonly ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They would never have done it if ram didn't come out with the TRX

    • @roadrunner4847
      @roadrunner4847 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ubeuonly yes we know thank you Dodge Ram

    • @ubeuonly
      @ubeuonly ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roadrunner4847 facts are facts

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ubeuonly Dodge would have never made the TRX if it wasn't for ford. Never forget who created this badass subsegment.

    • @ubeuonly
      @ubeuonly ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KB-bh9hp that's all well and fine. But Dodge did it better and LeapFrog Ford and we'll do it again in the electric segment and Chevy will always be bringing up the rear. But that doesn't excuse for for copying the cutouts in the rear bumper copying the five link suspension, copying the tailgate shape to match the 19 ram copying the underdash of the RAM and previous generations ect.. and most raptors are pavement princesses anyway. And they sound horrific. So credit ran for doing it right and not making do with an Eco puss engine

  • @sbreslin41
    @sbreslin41 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @Truck-it150
    @Truck-it150 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always great TFL video and lots of details. 👍Great to see drive shafts, front & rear axle and diff without any rust.😎 This is very rare at new Ford trucks. This truck is awesome -the price, too.

    • @earlmullet7628
      @earlmullet7628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must be it's first day out of the factory.

    • @josephdbishop6576
      @josephdbishop6576 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saw a review of a ‘22 Maverick with a rusty muffler in fairly low miles(not Northeast, either!). Clearly a victim of excessive cost-cutting to hit a price point. Reviewer said that it would likely need replacement before warranty ended. Unacceptable!

  • @JakeStewart1343
    @JakeStewart1343 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    6:48 "You're taking 14 inches in the rear!"
    😱

  • @ForTehNguyen
    @ForTehNguyen ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Ford: Look at this V6TT, its so amazing, you dont need a V8 anymore!
    Dodge: F it, put the hellcat engine in a Ram.
    Ford: Look at this V8 we put in the Raptor, isnt it amazing!!!

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OK, I was just at a Ford dealer to pickup my daughter to have her car serviced.
    There was a black Bronco Raptor on the showroom. $117k The added sticker was kind enough to state that the market adjustment is ONLY $40,000!! I hope these dealers a dry screwing when the market goes bad.

  • @vinaashak
    @vinaashak ปีที่แล้ว

    Fairly certain I saw you guys, or at least the convoy, driving by south Lansing on 96 a couple days back! Saw around 7-10 Raptor Rs just cruising together around 8:30 am.

  • @kelvinmann1058
    @kelvinmann1058 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome truck I just wish they would run the exhaust tips through the bumper instead of below it. They seem to always end up dragging rocks, and I bet their not cheap. 🤑

  • @empoweredmonkies
    @empoweredmonkies ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looking forward to the showdown with the trx.

  • @coreybatorski9626
    @coreybatorski9626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome overview 🎉

  • @MattN03
    @MattN03 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job as always Andre! Is there any plans to go to 4k videos? Resolution while watching on TV would be sweet in 4k!

  • @mattman6458
    @mattman6458 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sure did pick a dumpy looking parking garage to do this in for such a premium product launch

  • @bryan502004
    @bryan502004 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Listening to customers" The Raptor R exists because the TRX took things to another level.

    • @cardsfan2321
      @cardsfan2321 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the TRX exists because of the Raptor.

    • @davidg5965
      @davidg5965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cardsfan2321 exactly 😂

  • @mrcowboypimp
    @mrcowboypimp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait to see Andre drive this beast!!!

  • @MarkS204specC
    @MarkS204specC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Black Raptor R in the background is the one I want!

  • @ronsouza9309
    @ronsouza9309 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice video. Please ask about the heated steering and heated mirrors that they are removing which is a very big disappointment for a $109,000 truck

    • @miamisasquatch
      @miamisasquatch ปีที่แล้ว

      Very important for dessert running

    • @jamesbeaman6337
      @jamesbeaman6337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miamisasquatch especially if the dessert is ice cream 😉.

  • @suhaibahmad05
    @suhaibahmad05 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative

  • @jamesclapp6940
    @jamesclapp6940 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU ANDRE!

  • @joelhughes6272
    @joelhughes6272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I am a Ford guy 100% Currently own a 2018 Platinum and I have a TRX on order. As amazing as the Raptor R is going to be, it will be 30K more than my TRX. I would assume the Raptor R will be faster due to weight savings but for 30K I could make the TRX scream. I wish it was a bit more in line with the price of a TRX

  • @bliskin8847
    @bliskin8847 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Took the Torsen lsd to reduce cost, lol, I like how he spins it into a positive.

    • @cablenowadays6586
      @cablenowadays6586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was looking for this comment. Brake locking systems do not compare to a normal
      LSD or locker. That’s one of the only flaws i see in this truck is removing a mechanical feature for a computer one

    • @jamespenner1412
      @jamespenner1412 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol thought that was funny too, all of a sudden a torsen was just usless 😆

    • @Josh47147
      @Josh47147 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or maybe they just wanted to extend the life of the front cv axles.

    • @bliskin8847
      @bliskin8847 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Josh47147 Why would they do that, they will most likely fail out of warranty, and the customer will have to pay to repair them, making the dealer and Ford more money.

    • @guyod1
      @guyod1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been stuck in snow countless times and when I lock the front it pulls right out.

  • @MC4D.
    @MC4D. ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how the "R" closest to the rear on the bed decal are red. Keeping the flow of the graphic consists on both sides of the truck

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks so cool with the dark blue especially.

    • @espritmike
      @espritmike ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet they didn't do that on the hood badge supposedly

  • @MM-sf6fp
    @MM-sf6fp ปีที่แล้ว

    Top tier Andre!!

  • @okie8738
    @okie8738 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    700 hp for a off road truck is crazy. My first Toyota pickup didn’t even have a hundred

    • @bobkonradi1027
      @bobkonradi1027 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact that its insanely crazy is exactly what it needs to be.

    • @minibikemadman
      @minibikemadman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the trx is way better.

    • @KB-bh9hp
      @KB-bh9hp ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@minibikemadman Nah

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว

      Ford is really good at engineering their exhausts too. Our old f150 has stock exhaust and you can tell it was perfectly balanced so it isn't too loud nor too quiet and it has a good sound so even after all these years you don't get sick of it. Sounds just as good every time. I love it. They don't want it to sound bad and it's loud enough it doesn't sound anemic. my grandfather drove it one time and thought it had aftermarket exhaust because it sounded so good

  • @mub9341
    @mub9341 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great vid as always and sick truck, but it's just another vehicle from Ford that is overpriced, the dealers that get them will mark them up beyond belief, and most people won't be able to purchase one or ever see one. This is exactly what we all need, Thanks Ford.

  • @patrickburgmeier7902
    @patrickburgmeier7902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious Andre, does this motor run on 87 octane? Or does it require 91+ octane like the ram hellcat?

  • @fsherman898
    @fsherman898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you told me the Chief Engineer was Dale from Step Brothers talking, I’d believe you.

  • @whyguy1175
    @whyguy1175 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For a 110K+ I'm still looking for the massaging seats, ventilated back passenger seats (like TRX), and pro-power on-board.

    • @CMillerRichmond
      @CMillerRichmond ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Power to weight means something to Ford unlike the TRX, I would delete the sunroof (77lbs) to lower the center of gravity..

    • @bash6519
      @bash6519 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@CMillerRichmond I agree with you but most of the people buying these probably aren’t racing them or even worse, off-roading lol. Gotta flex on your boys at the boomer bbq haha.

    • @christopherbrown1391
      @christopherbrown1391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bash6519 exactly totally agree

    • @sixpest
      @sixpest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bash6519 Settle down. you should be glad.
      When they finally come to the used market you have a brand new, non dogged out truck just high miles

    • @bash6519
      @bash6519 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sixpest silver linings

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Didn’t realize they left out the front Torsen. Doesn’t the newest Ecoboost model still have it? Interesting decision, wonder if it was a cost thing or what.

    • @nativetexan7433
      @nativetexan7433 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like he said, they don't need it with the electronic braking system controlling wheel spin.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nativetexan7433 sure, but that's what the old model had as well.

    • @nativetexan7433
      @nativetexan7433 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ALMX5DP
      So what's your confusion then?
      "not needed" What part is unclear?

    • @whyguy1175
      @whyguy1175 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ALMX5DP redundancy is a nice thing to have 🤔

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nativetexan7433 why they took it away here when it was added to the other model in their stable.

  • @klaymoon1
    @klaymoon1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That V8 engine is a beauty. So, small but better than anything before.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford is doing well pretty much across the board. I am not a Ford guy but would like to own one today. I would complain about prices but they are all too expensive. The bubble may burst next year?

  • @mohammadbinbishr5167
    @mohammadbinbishr5167 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Throw out that 3.5 V6 and keep that fantastic V8
    Keep up the great work

    • @joshszydel8202
      @joshszydel8202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love my 3.5. 22 mpg on the highway and still plenty of power.

    • @mohammadbinbishr5167
      @mohammadbinbishr5167 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshszydel8202 it's nice to have forced induction engine but I personally prefer NA V8 or V12 (my dream) due to long-term usage and maintenance if it used in the proper way

  • @jabroni6199
    @jabroni6199 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hmmm. Not really sure how i feel about getting rid of the torsion diff up front. On one hand, it would make 4A a lot easier to live with not having the truck pull to one side or the other, and heaving up the steering wheel. On the other hand it was great for traction on the rocks and high articulation terrain.

    • @cynic777
      @cynic777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree they are going to try to do it with brakes applications and software but is that really as good as mechanical solution.

    • @rodgood
      @rodgood ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya not a good idea to be braking and adding power at the same time . may be the Torsen could not handle the power ?

    • @jabroni6199
      @jabroni6199 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cynic777 the thing is, they had both the torsen and TCS systems working on the Gen 2’s. Personally I think it’s a cost savings measure more than “oh we just don’t need it anymore”

    • @corporatebryan
      @corporatebryan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jabroni6199I believe the gen3’s have an electronic brake booster allowing for independent braking of individual wheels. The gen 2’s didn’t have this. McLaran uses this method in leu of mechanical LSD’s as well.

  • @chrismcphee7866
    @chrismcphee7866 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good point SIR!!

  • @thebeddoctor4273
    @thebeddoctor4273 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can't wait to get my 100k truck and race down to the mall. I will barely feel the curbs.

    • @blakew5672
      @blakew5672 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly don’t blame anyone for not wanting to off-road such an expensive truck. Not many people have an expendable income that allows them to drive the truck like it’s intended to be driven

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blakew5672 I think that applies to most performance vehicles. Although at least with the Raptor and the TRX you can comfortable do the speed limit on our shitty roads and not worry about tearing the oil pan off like nearly any performance car.

    • @blakew5672
      @blakew5672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlueDually4x4
      Not a bad point. I love all specialty vehicles, but personally I’d get more use out of a sports car than I would the truck, depends on what part of the country you’re in though. We don’t have access to public land, blm land, etc in the east like they do out west, so apart from owning the land or finding someone okay with it, it’s not as easy to off-road as it is to find low traffic public roads or even drag race.
      Personally I’d love a manufacturer to cut corners on the “luxury” side of the trucks and bring the price down to something more inline with a vehicle that was made to get roughed up. That’s a criticism I have of most trucks in general though. Trucks were always meant to be purpose driven, work oriented vehicles blue collar workers could afford, not $70K+ leather-wrapped luxury mobiles for errand running.

    • @BlueDually4x4
      @BlueDually4x4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blakew5672 Having been out east, I completely understand. And I agree it would be nice if trucks were less luxury sedan and more truck.

  • @nadebothd4006
    @nadebothd4006 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The R is a sweet truck but not a $150k sweet after markups. The R weighs in at 6k pounds and the TRX is around 6.4k. All that talk of aluminum for the engine but the 5.2 weighs about the same as the hellcat lol.

    • @ThaMagnaCarta
      @ThaMagnaCarta ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't forget the fact that those 37s reduce alot of benefit that the aluminum body has over the heavier TRX.

    • @kubeanie18
      @kubeanie18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      400 lbs lighter negates hp diff

    • @ahmadflemming9041
      @ahmadflemming9041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThaMagnaCarta not with 4.10 gearing

  • @MS-mr4zm
    @MS-mr4zm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can dial up the hp/Tq on a gen2 to match that gen3 3.5, but it def is prone to axle wrap….the easiest way to mitigate most of it is to simply run it in AWD mode

  • @JohnDoe-qu2qo
    @JohnDoe-qu2qo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "people were asking for a V8" yeah nobody asked ford 115K msrp with 50K markup

  • @levicharles996
    @levicharles996 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Taking the Torsen out of the front and going to an electric differential was weird to hear.

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA ปีที่แล้ว

      Cost cutting and weight. Now they just use the brakes.

    • @bradentrevino7694
      @bradentrevino7694 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard an open differential when he said they’ll use the brakes. Wonder if there’s a power limitation on limited slips since the trx is the same way.

    • @JJsGA
      @JJsGA ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradentrevino7694 nah, torsens can easily handle 1000+hp....there must be another weakness in the axle housing itself...

  • @curtisreed2850
    @curtisreed2850 ปีที่แล้ว

    They seem to have a lot in the garage. Can they line up all the colors so we can see them on the Raptor R? I ordered Ionic Silver but might want to change it.

  • @josephjenness6956
    @josephjenness6956 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning tfl

  • @jasonpitts8395
    @jasonpitts8395 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I want a Raptor R but the price tag is ridiculous. Ask him why they cost so much? As always TFL does another great interview.

    • @js2407
      @js2407 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because idiots will pay it

    • @kubeanie18
      @kubeanie18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because it's a fully option max spec truck the ram TRX max option is same price

    • @usmcvet0313
      @usmcvet0313 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      People are willing to pay it

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kubeanie18 no it’s not! The TRX is about 10 grand cheaper.

    • @B86432
      @B86432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kubeanie18 the origional raptor race truck built by ford in 2008-2009 was around 100k lol with 500hp special cam in the 6.2 & 37s w a 4 link rear cage full coms RAPTOR XT this is no where near that

  • @Honoer
    @Honoer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just look at that, the more expensive version of the regular raptor that my middle class butt can’t even afford.

    • @drewz4236
      @drewz4236 ปีที่แล้ว

      My middle class butt is barely middle class anymore f@$king inflation

  • @NissanTy
    @NissanTy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    About 95% of these will be at the local drag strips and street races, pretty much what the TRX is, an off road drag racer. Except with the TRX there is tuning available and with that, there are 9 sec TRXs

  • @iitztdutchboi1231
    @iitztdutchboi1231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Video, The Ford cheif engerineer looks like Victor Garber. From DC's Legends of Tomorrow.

  • @letsgobrandon416
    @letsgobrandon416 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love watching an engineer who's proud of his creation tell everything about it.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Engineers give good technical analysis imo. I really enjoy the nitty gritty details about he engineering. Im not like some people where I'm sold right away. I love to hear what the people who love building the machine have done to improve it and change it from one generation to the next.

  • @FoxFaderWorld
    @FoxFaderWorld ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can hear the timing chain clack already. Wait, new chassis? Do I hear recall papers printing?

  • @bobuncle8704
    @bobuncle8704 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that this truck is being made. The very sad thing for me is I’ll never be able to own one. It is a dream, however, to be able to go for a ride in one sometime broke I leave this world.

  • @mongoosexxXXXXXXX
    @mongoosexxXXXXXXX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YUUUUP!!!!!!!! 😂 mans was just really wanting to say yup

  • @shiftmotorsports9803
    @shiftmotorsports9803 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hope that front diff never needs service

  • @micarguy8239
    @micarguy8239 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the limiting factor to why they chose not to use a V8 before is the ‘suspension?’ Methinks not.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว

      I know why. The V6 is lighter weight and better for the trails. They knew everyone wanted the V8 but they were holding back to build up the momentum. Deep down we all knew it was coming back. It just took the right time. They were totally developing it the entire time they just had to wait for talltbe trx owners to buy their trucks ad then want a new truck after a couple years, boom they drop it, perfect timing. It's a beast

    • @Limited-uq2yk
      @Limited-uq2yk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ignorance at it's finest

    • @raionshishi8290
      @raionshishi8290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really, it seems to me the nose heavy TRX that likes to dolphin dive after jumps really shows that suspension and weight is a big factor, which isn't suppose to be a surprise considering these are suppose to be dessert running and baja racing trucks, basically a trophy truck for the road. Stay ignorant if you want

  • @johnny_killinitnew6672
    @johnny_killinitnew6672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an absolute dream truck 😢

  • @Hemidakota
    @Hemidakota ปีที่แล้ว

    It wouldn't matter when you know the 6.4ltr can push north of 1000 hp. This was known years ago when a few private owners decided to do it. Next came longevity. Again, it would not matter. :) It is the same with Cummins, which is not even close to its real rating. Excellent video and very informative by the Ford Engineer.

  • @evictioncarpentry2628
    @evictioncarpentry2628 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The 2HP difference will be more then equalled when the R weights 800lbs less. Has a 10 speed and the gearing.

    • @dmatthews3583
      @dmatthews3583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ford literally already came out and announced that it is not as quick as the TRX on the street.

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dmatthews3583 When?

  • @terrencejones9817
    @terrencejones9817 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've never seen an interview so long to tell us practically nothing. Other than Ford removed the Torsen from the front.

  • @therealTuggatron
    @therealTuggatron ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boy Dre always asking the good questions.

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The naked chassis looks like alien technology

  • @wheelerk2012
    @wheelerk2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that color the Azure Grey? I noticed thats a color on the Bronco Raptor.

  • @reggiep3369
    @reggiep3369 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    SWEEET!!! We get to see the Raptor R's all the youtubers get and the so called tester get to beat the Fk out of. While us normal folks get our 2023 R's in 2026 for $30k over sticker and dealers string us along like crabs on a line. Man I'm EXCITED!!!

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Street speed 717 already did that and bent the frame on the first jump. Why do you think he drives TRXs now?!?!

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnDoe-nz6bk He didn't bend the frame on anything. He just only wants to own one truck.

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@burgerbandit3646 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ he bent the frame on the ford and you never saw it again after that. It was even pointed out in his video that the frame was bent but he made up some excuse that it was a clip on his bed. Educate yourself before posting anymore stoopid comments!

    • @burgerbandit3646
      @burgerbandit3646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnDoe-nz6bk You made the right choice deleting that last comment

    • @JohnDoe-nz6bk
      @JohnDoe-nz6bk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@burgerbandit3646 I didn’t delete any comment.. sounds like you got triggered by the truth and reported it. Typical!

  • @korn111685
    @korn111685 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Ram forced Ford to make the v8 Raptor. Ford didn’t listen to customers, ram embarrassed the wimpy v6 raptor. Thank you Ram for the Raptor R.

    • @lancescimeca4855
      @lancescimeca4855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spot on correct, Sir!

    • @AK_Ray
      @AK_Ray ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Wimpy v6, that whips almost every v8 ever put in a pickup.

    • @beto46133
      @beto46133 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AK_Ray Natura aspired 😅

    • @chestogaming51
      @chestogaming51 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AK_Ray k bro

    • @stephengalvan7722
      @stephengalvan7722 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speakers go bye bye-bye 😂

  • @benq.mechanical
    @benq.mechanical ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet looking truck 👍. Raptor has always been a good platform.
    Funny to watch the Ford people though. Because they're so in love with their turbo 6's, it's like a disappointment when that's not what the customer wants.

  • @SPAWNOFSATAN013
    @SPAWNOFSATAN013 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to hear this with headers and corsa.

  • @ThorosThor
    @ThorosThor ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *RAM TRX RULES👍👍*

  • @portalproducedit5906
    @portalproducedit5906 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The engineer said “umm” like a billion times😂

  • @whyguy1175
    @whyguy1175 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized he said they swapped to a charged intercooler + pump circuit vs the 3.5’s intercooler. @8:27

  • @bgb702
    @bgb702 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:41 This guy knows how to do the memes on the youtubes.

  • @BIG570S
    @BIG570S ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can’t wait to see the size of the addendums and “market value adjustments” on this bad boy.😂🤡🤡

    • @sixpest
      @sixpest ปีที่แล้ว

      200k
      shit like the c8 was almost 200k so you know this has to be 200 or more!
      Sad times

  • @KaiDragon
    @KaiDragon ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ford was very proud of their V6 twin turbo in the Raptor until customers were trading in their v6 Raptors for a TRX v8. Ford basically took the biggest V8 engine they had in factory put a Supercharger on it and still couldn't match the RAM TRX in power. But Ford has the most powerful diesel engine.

    • @CurtisDishman
      @CurtisDishman ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Biggest V8 while maintaining the purpose of the Raptor…..Allegedly…..
      The TRX is absolutely awesome and probably fits most people in the performance truck market a bit better. But the raptor’s a much better truck for the off-road market it’s directed towards.
      Not saying the TRX isn’t great off road just not the Raptor’s level, and same with the Raptor, not as good on road for a performance vehicle as the TRX.
      I would have loved to see them slap their actual largest factory V8, then slap a Supercharger on it. Godzilla baby!!!

    • @KaiDragon
      @KaiDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CurtisDishman A supercharged Godzilla v8 in the Raptor R would have been the perfect fit and true a balanced truck is a reliable truck. However, it all comes down to the customer's preference because Hennessey could take the Raptor R pass TRX's horsepower.

    • @michaelschneider530
      @michaelschneider530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Biggest v8 they have? They have a 7.3 v8 as well... or they could have kept the 6.2 around.. or waited a little bit and used the 6.8 they just announced for the SD trucks lol.

    • @rau4329
      @rau4329 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wow, so 2 hp less and 10 less pounds of Torque is terrible? So you just pretending the 400 plus pounds the TRX weights more over the Raptor means nothing?

    • @ForTehNguyen
      @ForTehNguyen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KaiDragon if Hennessey would even give your truck back, im sure you've heard about how scammy and shady they are

  • @JasonRicker-ch5nt
    @JasonRicker-ch5nt ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the unit featured the nw avalanche color??

  • @TaigaTurf
    @TaigaTurf ปีที่แล้ว +8

    the TRX just looks better

  • @ColeSpolaric
    @ColeSpolaric ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Who decided a parking garage was a great place to set this up? Dude's mic was clipping the entire time because of the poor acoustics.

    • @jasonpitts8395
      @jasonpitts8395 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It looks like they are storing new trucks in it. Prob waiting on chips

    • @jerryjeromehawkins1712
      @jerryjeromehawkins1712 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Didn't even notice... just enjoying the content. But then again, I'm not the kind of guy that complains about every little thing in life.

    • @jayxj7785
      @jayxj7785 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love this comment 😂 but yeah what a random place for a set up

    • @zachconroy1443
      @zachconroy1443 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I think he's a "loud talker " too. pretty annoying.

    • @nbkking
      @nbkking ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the cámara work at the beginning was slow, then he got it by having both guys in one frame

  • @justonpreble4083
    @justonpreble4083 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does Ford think only Raptor owners want a full size spare!!! This 37” capable spare tire location should be standard on all of the F- Series Trucks!

  • @caseihpopper
    @caseihpopper ปีที่แล้ว

    So how wide would that drive shaft be

  • @omarkhatab1020
    @omarkhatab1020 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will always buy a TRX bc of its price and availability unlike Fords ripe off deals 😂

  • @josemorenoporras7506
    @josemorenoporras7506 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    No mention about brakes. Raptor had poor brakes like many other trucks,only the Tundra had 4 pot caliper. For a 700 HP desert truck and those big tires you would need huge brakes to get some performance over and over.

    • @Blue_Flame_Raptor
      @Blue_Flame_Raptor ปีที่แล้ว

      The trx has really bad brakes too.

    • @reidsgarage1100
      @reidsgarage1100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With more parasitic drag from the supercharger the downshifting/engine braking should be stronger at slowing the vehicle down than on the 3.5 Ecoboost.

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2019+ GMs use fixed 4 piston calipers too.

    • @edmeyer4800
      @edmeyer4800 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gotta always drive in Sport mode and the tranny helps with downshifting to slow the beast down and sometimes you need to even downshift with the paddle shifters a little early within reason.

  • @georgehunter4023
    @georgehunter4023 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a short box regular cab version so it is much lighter, faster and more maneuverable?

  • @TdawggLA
    @TdawggLA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe a few horses difference is a big deal to some people. Since when is 700 hp not enough? This truck is awesome