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Best video info on the S5 II and the S5 IIx onTH-cam. Packed full with information! You can watch it 3 times and you will learn something new each and every time!!! Great video Shane, great big thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Many thanks for your detailed review! I own the original S5 and recently bought a Lumix S5 II and S5 IIx. Unfortunately I had to return both units, because they had exactly the same audio issue: If you connect an external microphone via the jack audio input, there is a high frequency pulsating sound that doubles its frequency when you switch the frame rate from 25p to 50p. This annoying sound can only be heard very quietly, but it is disturbing in quiet passages during interviews, for example. And yes, it does not go away as soon as you hit record. This is a step by step guide to reproduce the problem: 1. Set the camera to movie mode in a quiet room 2. Connect an external microphone to the Mic-Port (if it is a battery powered device, you can leave it switched off) 3. In the audio menu, set the „Sound Rec Gain Level“ to „Low“ (in „Standard“ the issue is less pronounced) 4. Set the Audio Level to Zero or + dB to emphasize the issue 5. Put your low impedance headphones on (e.g. EarPods) and note a pulsing high pitched interference sound 6. Press the lens lock/unlock button to make the sound disappear for some seconds 7. Toggle the Movie Recording Options from 25p to 50p to double the speed of the pulsing sound 8. Switch the dial “Movie Mode“ to Manual "M“ to hear the sound change it’s frequency Please note: This interference do not occur using the onboard mics or the DMW-XLR1 unit.
What about on the Panasonic S1h? There is brand new S1H on ebay going for 2600 ... I dont know but for me its between this and the s1h, Let me know guys
@@GeekyNerdyTechy In Australia the price difference it over $700, which is way more than the $200 US, which is annoying. I was planing to get the X for short film making, for festivals. I wouldn't use those big files for TH-cam.
Once they are readily available I'll rent the S5ii x to make sure I know if I like it or not. I've haven't used a camera other than Canon and Sony over the past 10 years. I think this camera has what I need to make photo and video fun again.
I would LOVE to see that audio option added to the camera. It would make a world of difference when you're working with hundreds of clips in a project! Thanks for watching and for the kind words.
Thanks Panasonic. I can now use this camera in hot, hot Jamaica with no fear of overheating. No more overheating Sony a7iv or other poorly designed Sony mirrorless cameras.
I have the s pro 24-70 sitting on my desk right now just waiting for my S5iix so I can actually use it lol. I was going to go with just the primes but when the price dropped $500 it was enough of a discount to justify it. As a narrative filmmaker that lens is perfect (aside from the weight and size). Manual focus clutch, par focal, no focus breathing and easily reframe when filming 60p without swapping lenses. One thing that is never really talked about is when you see that Roger Deakins likes a 28mm or Spielberg sees the world in 21mm they are talking about super 35 which is a 1.44x crop compared to the S5. So the s prime 35 turns into 24mm and the S prime 24 turns into 16.5mm. I love that I can actually set the 24-70 to 30mm and know I have the field of view of 21mm on a cinema camera. This lens lets you film an entire feature film without ever having to change the lens. It is essentially a cine lens.
I actually live the red accent on the s5ii. I just finished a full cine rig with the s5ii. I have a sigma 24-70 and the irix 40mm cine lense, amazing combo
Loving your Lumix content, mate...the perfect balance between informative and accessible! Keep up the great work! :) I'm considering a move up to Lumix full frame options (coming from the G9 and GH5 Mk.ii) for video and your vids have given me a lot to consider...thanks and best wishes from Scotland! :)
Such a bummer about the 1080P 50/60FPS with no PDAF. I also agreed about the audio channels, I wish you could turn them off. I wish they would fix this too. I really wanted the S5iix but I think I'm going to stick with the S5II.
The S5II is a solid choice and is more than enough for 99% of situations. I knew as soon as I found out about the X the extra features wouldn't be something I would utilize much.
By buying the S5IIX, you’re future proofing yourself. The S5II will have the option to unlock certain features the S5IIX has. In the future, it’s going to cost you the same as having paid that extra for the S5IIX, just to get the additional features the S5IIX has. I think the extra $300 was worth it
There is still the heavy chroma NR (and the heavy sharpening in 6K) with the regular profiles like standard or natural on the X ? I sold the S5II because of that. My S1 has not this issue with these profiles, much better details in low light when cropping.
Looks like its still there. If you want the most out of this sensor, externally record BRAW. The BRAW out of this camera seems to work like native Black Magic cameras. You get highlight recovery, white balance control, and accurate exposure compensation. Seems like that S52 ( with paid firmware update) or S52x and a Blackmagic assist is the best "cheap" large format cinema camera available period. Highlight recovery gave Gerald Undone almost an extra stop in the highlights.... that puts your dynamic range up in Red category.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Yes I used V-Log as well because other profiles were oversharpened in 6K (they also have noise reduction or something similar blurring fine details in low light in 6K and 4K) contrary to my S1. V-Log on the S5II was great but too noisy in low light when using 6K and cropping. It is why I sold the S5II, the S1 has better details rendering and 0 noise reduction with the regular profiles. I hope Panasonic will release a S1II or S1HII with zero details filtering like on the S1 and S1H
@@jessecumberledge4530 Yes but I mostly do run and gun so I don't want to record externally, the S1 and S5 don't have noise reduction and oversharpening with the 709 profiles, but they still have good dynamic range. However the AF on these cameras is nowhere as good as the S5II ... I tried the Canon R6II recently, I like the colors, the IBIS is good, the AF is great and the 4K60fps has no crop but the details rendering is just slightly better than the S5II with 709 profiles, really not as good as the S1. It seems most brands are trying to mimic Sony ugly rendering when using 709 profiles now (with oversharpening and noise reduction). Even with my M43 cameras (G9 and GH6) I never seen such bad rendering with the 709 profiles, very disappointing from Panasonic because they always had the best image quality whatever the profiles I've used. Now they try to catch smartphone users with oversharpening and NR everywhere with most profiles.
Wish their S-Pro primes are similar to their S Prime lens but with much much much much superior quality and optics. Not that I'm complaining about the S Lenses but with just a little bit more money and you can get the Sony GM 1.4 primes. It's kinda hard to justify the price difference. Other than superficial stuff that I spoke about, the S series of prime is a great set
I have three channels over 30k subs right now but a lot of time is spent filming for another project that will be on a different channel I am helping with behind the scenes. :)
Nice Video! I'm mostly a stills shooter but looking at a video centric camera to add to my bag. Been looking at this camera for a while now, I think I may have to take the plunge.
Thanks for the work you put into this review! Can either the S5ii or the S5iix be continuously powered to allow for unlimited recording? I want to shoot video for multiple hours outside.
Hi mate, the part starting @9:19 100fps in 1080 did you lose pdaf while recording or could you still use pdaf? Thanks for feedback greetings from Germany
Wow. I'm impressed about how the market is blooming after the pandemics and chip shortage. From mid 2022 to (i suppose) end of 2024 the camera market has been and will be crazy. It started with Fuji XH2 and XH2S, and doesn't seem to stop. Nikon Z8, Panasonic S5IIX and S5II, Canon cheapo entry level R50, R10 and R8, etc. And we wait for next Nikon cameras, Panasonic new S1 lineup (i think will be incredible cameras), Canon R5 replacement, etc. For me it's even more difficult to decide for one system 😅😅😅😅😅. I think i will sell my Z50, Z30 and lenses and i will stay with Nikon and Canon DSLR until the market settles 😊
You're spot on! There are so many great options now, and more keep coming out. I like how Panasonic will support its cameras in the future with firmware updates rather than releasing a new one every other week.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Exactly. New cameras are cool. But, updating cameras with new features through firmware updates is more productive and less expensive.
I need your help. I recently sold my sony a7iv and bought panasonic s5ii and sigma 24-70. I noticed that when changing the aperture, no matter in what mode, there are sharp jumps on the screen and on the video. It's like when you change the aperture for a split second, a huge black vignette appears around the edges, it's very noticeable. On Sony, this is not the case, and when changing the aperture from one extreme value to another, only the blurring of the background changes, and the exposure changes smoothly and imperceptibly. I'm trying to figure out if this is a lens problem or a feature of Panasonic cameras.
It sounds like the Sigma lens possibly. The exposure changes on the Panasonic with the native lenses is way better than my Sony A7SIII and lens combos.
People complain about the 1.5x crop on the S2II & S2IIX, but forget that all other cameras in that price range have either a crop or quality just goes down to 1080p at 60fps+. I’ll take a 1.5x crop because it’s just like shooting from a APS-C camera that comes with a crop. The big thing for me is how it doesn’t overheat and the IBIS is probably the best one out there. The low light performance is also a deal breaker. Canon can’t compete with this unless you get a lens for low light shots. You can get a little better results with Sony but you have to step it up and spend way more for an FX30 😐
Does the Lumix s5ii record audio with an on board microphone or is an external microphone required. Thanks to your videos I too will own a Lumix s5ii with the 20-60mm lens. I love your channels 😊
Both are solid cameras. I like the FX30 for the small form factor and more affordable lenses (and the 4k120 with AF), but the LUMIX has better image quality, tools, and photographic features. I actually like the S Series lenses more than most of the E Mount ones. My suggestion is don't get the E1. Overheating is a huge problem for some people. I might do a comparison video coming up :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks, highly appreciated your input. I already own an S1R and an S5 with the 20-60 kit lens and love it; also have the 85mm f1.8. I really like the way you test the cameras...Thanks for taking the effort.
GREAT video! Looking for holiday deals on Lumix gear. Is there any way to stop the corner warping on >20mm lenses when handheld? Does the 18mm Lumix prime suffer from it as well?
Hi mate. I only had a chance to test the 18mm on the original S5 which did show signs of warping. It's supposed to be way better controlled on the S5II/X. I can tell you that 20mm is awesome on this camera so 18 should perform better on this than the original S5.
Have you experienced a little delay between hitting record and the recording actually starting? On the screen the delay translates into a little stutter/jump but it isn't in the actual footage as it seems to happen when the timer/recording actually starts. It happens in mov and prores but doesn't seem to be an issue in MP4. S5iix on the latest fw with 2 64g prograde v90ii 250mb cards. Any input would be great!
I haven't noticed it to be a problem. I am using V90 Silicon Power cards. That said, I didn't really shoot much ProRes in my tests. The files are too big.
hi Geeky! Is there a big difference in image quality between the Lumix Pro 24-70 f2.8 and the Lumix 20-60? At maximum relative aperture, which is sharper?
Im curious if you don't mind testing, with the USB port supporting SSDs this also takes away the option to power the camera via PD. Are you able to connect a USB hub with ones that have pass through charging to the device so that you can in fact connect an SSD and charge at the same time.
All the years of us b!tching about PDAF finally paid off! And both the S5 II & S5 II X are even better than i hoped for! Cant wait what a S1H II or a GH7 will look like! Also so great to see that Panny is giving you some love with review units Shane! :)
It would have been good if they jumped on the PDAF train earlier, but I am glad they finally did it also. I am keen to see what's next for MFT. The S1H II will no doubt be great, but I am hoping to see a great MFT camera with the same PDAF next to bring that system up to speed. Thanks for the comments and for watching. :)
Your videos are terrific: please keep up the good work. Have you tried adjusting settings for any of the filming modes (for example, natural)? If so, would you be willing to share them with us? Thank you...
I just received my S5IIX - yay! I think I have discovered a firmware bug when using a vintage lens - Takumar 50mm f1.4 - with an SSD connected. The usual start-up selection dialogue box you see confirming focal length etc., of the lens is absent when starting from SSD. It only seems to appear when using internal SD storage. Otherwise an incredible camera - pleased I waited for the s5IIX.
From what I’ve seen in other reviews, the photography rocks! The autofocus can get a little wonky with flying birds when they pass by a busy backdrop. For the most part, the still images are killer.
100% agree. I kind of said that at the end as well. The ProRes, Raw, and All-I codecs is something I would never use for my work in and out of TH-cam. It's great that the option is available though, for people who are already using that workflow.
No more like 98%. Should have just not paid for prores in camera and just given the S52 a h.265 All I codec, and then make the user go external recorder if they want the highend codec. I do love the blacked out look. I have an S52 already, I could use another one. I consider myself a pretty heavy user and I think I would just go with the S52 over the X. I would like that external BRAW for my passion projects though....
@@jessecumberledge4530 It’s flexibility and growth potential. You can save a few hundred and get the S52 and be fine for 90% of use cases. However somewhere down the line you get the need to shoot higher quality video, all-I, raw, what ever you will need to purchase and upgrade to the S5ii that’s almost the exact same price as the S5iix but still miss out on some of the feature set that’s present in the S5iix. Reality is as you become more professional you likely will shift to proper video cameras like a C70, fx6 or Komodo. Great thing about the S5iix is it makes a brilliant b cam to those cameras with codecs and quality options to match it. Just buy the S5iix, it’s still cheaper than the majority of its competitors and offers more, while having massive growth potential.
@@jockturner1547 We need Panasonic to get a new competitor out for those lower end cinema cameras you mentioned. A upgrade path in the Panasonic ecosystem would be nice. Need a new Varicam with a L mount ASAP.
This is probably a subjective opinion, but I feel that your B-roll since you are using the S5II and Gh6 looks significantly better, don’t know how, maybe “reacher” in color tones, or maybe you are using different Luts? The thing is that those clips look beautiful!
I'm considering both cameras and would appreciate your insight. If I were to simply shoot at 4K24 frames 10 bit 422 and wanted the convenience of recording to an SSD for workflow would you suggest the X? The only reason I would be upgrading to the X model would be that convenience .Appreciate your thoughts in advance.
The USB-C recording functionality is pretty cool. That said, it requires a specific setup/cage to get it all connected and portable. The feature is great, but I would rather keep the rig smaller when doing any sort of travel. 2 x 256gb cards is usually enough and you can also backup the recording on the fly which is what you can't do with the SSD.
How big would you say the difference in autofocus reliability is between the Lumix S5ii and a Sony camera like the A7siii for complex situations, such as weddings, backlit subjects, lowlight, crowded places, etc..?
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Have they fixed losing the new hybrid auto focus when shooting in 1080p/60? I nearly pulled the trigger on purchasing a S5ii until that bombshell at the end.
The battery door is like the original S5. All of the S5 dummy batteries work. The GH6 has a slightly different cable angle where it needs to go through the hole.
Have you found a way to get the HDMI latency down to the normal ~50ms? A 120-300ms delay is an absolute deal breaker for me as I always use an external monitor, never rely on autofocus, and often have a 1st AC pulling focus.
thx for the helpful and breezy review. dang, was considering getting a sony fx30 but the panny s5iix seems to do everything better except AF, which i never use. yurr, av owned the sony a73 and now the fx3. jus the 24-70mm gmaster v1 for a lens. i used to own x2 panny g85's and x1 gx85. loved using those for walking around stuff and mounting to the inside of a car window w a ram suction mount. great ibis, affordable lenses, but mft lowlight is rough. seems like brandwise, sony and panny are kings in the $2-4kish mirrorless range. w sony specializing in beast lowlight performance and a great selection of 1st/3rd party lenses that arent too out of reach. panasonic seems to specialize in good ibis, 2nd-best lowlight at this pricepoint for mirrorless, better menus, more weatherproof type features/funner to shoot with. my only gripes w the panny cameras are the skintones look too red/yellow, and the lens selection is, as u said, pricey & limited. id probs save a couple bucks re-using my sony npfz100 batteries from my fx3/a73, and the possibility of swapping lenses if theyre full frame. that bein said, for a walkaround or car window mounted camera, the s5iix seems superior bcoz of the ibis. (fx30 ibis and lowlight perhaps lesser bcoz 6k oversampling and not fullframe) and the price seems fair for a feature rich camera. but idk, hesistant, long term, idk about panny lineup of lenses. leica be pricey. plus i like getting goofy samyang dumblenses and not usin AF anyway. but yeh both brands are great in this price range. and def the gx85 was my fave camera. so fun as a travel camera. but the fx3 feels pro, w the recording time, fan, beefy workhorse vibes. caged w a 98wh battery + atomos, its a pretty solid indie film reliable little camera. zcam seems interesting too but seems plagued by a thousand little issues, and reliability is king in filmmaking. crazy how far cameras have come in the past 10 yrs. movin beyond the canon t5i fosho😂
The Autofocus on the S5II and X is easily as good as the FX30. I have both cameras and the body tracking is better on the S5II, but the touch to focus is better on the Sony. Both are excellent either way. :)
Great review. Yes, the contrast only AF in 60p is a bummer. But, for me, I hardly shoot any slow motion. I know a lot of people complain about such limitations. But, how often to they really shoot that way? I saw someone post in a Facebook group for the ZV-E1 complaining that his camera overheated after 24 minutes filming in 60fps. I asked him what he was filming. He said he was filming himself working on his car engine. I asked him why he needed to film in 60fps for that, his reply was, "Cuz, I wanted to." I would be curious as to who would be interested in watching someone work on their car for 24 minutes in slow motion.
Tons of situations where 60 is needed. Normally it would be shorter burst, but not always. If you don't need it for your normal workflow then its not a issue, but for some it is 100% a deal breaker.
60p looks great and a lot of people prefer the smoother look and it also allows you to selectively slow it down in post on a 30p timeline. The camera has AF in 4K 60, but with a crop. If you're filming sport or events 60p is usually better for streaming at higher quality.
@@GeekyNerdyTechyYea, I can see how streaming at 60fps would look better. But, even TH-cam videos shot at 30fps look really digital. I’m a filmmaker first, and I try to avoid digital looking footage. At 60fps slowed to 24fps it must look like a soap opera. But, I guess that’s what some people want.
@@AllThingsFilm1 Nobody is filming in higher framerates the whole time. Only shots which are - for whatever creative reasons - intended to (selectively) be slowed down are filmed in higher framerates. So it's always good to have the option available to us.
Active cooling is SUCH a cheap addition for them to add they should really add it to any camera that has potential to overheat. Instead, manufacturers selectively include it to differentiate models and for marketing etc etc. it’s a situation where the market has failed. Look at the ZV-E1 as a perfect example. $3k body that didn’t have the budget for active cooling? You have to cough up extra $3k for the FX3 😂😂😂
Give me 50% of its features for 50% of the price please! Let me choose what features I want and customise the camera for my needs. If I need something extra I can buy a software upgrade later.
I’m not gonna blame the camera… But I went to my local Camera store and they let me put my card in the camera and test it out in the store. When I got home, it was some of the crummiest images I’ve ever seen in my life. I’m sure it’s the person who set the camera up, and not the camera. The images were blurry, and there was no ibis whatsoever. So I can’t blame the camera. I need to test it again before I rag on it. Everybody on the Internet is raving about this camera, so I’m sure whoever set the camera up for me didn’t know what they were doing. It’s a shame because it’s left a bad taste in my mouth.
There’s a reason why everyone loves these. I have 4x S5II cameras now and a bunch of other gear and these are great. Once you set it up it’s awesome. Maybe watch my tutorial video for help on getting the most out of it.
Let’s start with the fact that it doesn’t come with a charger, a battery charger… This camera is so cheap do you really expect them to also give you a charger?. And you say the X is overkill… Sometimes you don’t know what you’re talking about. The X is never overkill. For a measly $200 more why would you not want the extra benefits??
For me, All-I and ProRes are unnecessary since BRaw can be smaller while higher quality. I shoot in the dark a lot, so having buttons which I can see helps. Hopefully they don’t make the raw upgrade too expensive! 🥲
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I hope and pray that you have fully recovered and I will love to see a lots of S5IIx videos from you.Thank you Shane for this video.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm feeling a lot better thanks and the stitches are out of my head. I'll put together a few other S5II/X videos coming up.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy 🙏. I will wait for all your future videos Shane. Your videos are valuable for me and very helpful, thank you.
Thank you Shane.I am waiting for a detailed video of S5IIx from you.
Best video info on the S5 II and the S5 IIx onTH-cam. Packed full with information! You can watch it 3 times and you will learn something new each and every time!!! Great video Shane, great big thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much, Peter! I can't wait to see how a S5II goes in the Christmas room! Thanks again. :)
Many thanks for your detailed review!
I own the original S5 and recently bought a Lumix S5 II and S5 IIx. Unfortunately I had to return both units, because they had exactly the same audio issue:
If you connect an external microphone via the jack audio input, there is a high frequency pulsating sound that doubles its frequency when you switch the frame rate from 25p to 50p. This annoying sound can only be heard very quietly, but it is disturbing in quiet passages during interviews, for example. And yes, it does not go away as soon as you hit record.
This is a step by step guide to reproduce the problem:
1. Set the camera to movie mode in a quiet room
2. Connect an external microphone to the Mic-Port (if it is a battery powered device, you can leave it switched off)
3. In the audio menu, set the „Sound Rec Gain Level“ to „Low“ (in „Standard“ the issue is less pronounced)
4. Set the Audio Level to Zero or + dB to emphasize the issue
5. Put your low impedance headphones on (e.g. EarPods) and note a pulsing high pitched interference sound
6. Press the lens lock/unlock button to make the sound disappear for some seconds
7. Toggle the Movie Recording Options from 25p to 50p to double the speed of the pulsing sound
8. Switch the dial “Movie Mode“ to Manual "M“ to hear the sound change it’s frequency
Please note: This interference do not occur using the onboard mics or the DMW-XLR1 unit.
What about on the Panasonic S1h? There is brand new S1H on ebay going for 2600 ... I dont know but for me its between this and the s1h, Let me know guys
@@alenakopyan5322if you need autofocus go for the s5II(X) if not because you use cine lens go for the S1H
Superb camera and lenses. I’ve got the S5 and the S5iix with most of the lenses. I can’t recommend it enough! Thanks for the great video.
I’m pretty close to buying the X as my first Panasonic. Great video.
These are a lot of fun to shoot with. The X was overkill for me so I ended up buying the S5II. If you're into ProRes or BMRAW, the X is the way to go.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy In Australia the price difference it over $700, which is way more than the $200 US, which is annoying. I was planing to get the X for short film making, for festivals. I wouldn't use those big files for TH-cam.
Once they are readily available I'll rent the S5ii x to make sure I know if I like it or not. I've haven't used a camera other than Canon and Sony over the past 10 years. I think this camera has what I need to make photo and video fun again.
I find these way more fun to use over the Sony gear. It’s all subjective stuff but this is more enjoyable than my FX3
Thank goodness its not just me...I couldn't understand why my footage had so many audio tracks, and now I know. Great vid as usual Shane.
I would LOVE to see that audio option added to the camera. It would make a world of difference when you're working with hundreds of clips in a project! Thanks for watching and for the kind words.
Ditto. Thought that was me or Premiere Pro! Apparently not. Sort it please Panasonic!
Weirdly, your community post about this video showed up, RIGHT above this video 😂
Watching now lol
haha! That's awesome. At least it showed up. I spent all day putting this together. :) Enjoy.
Thanks for NOT hypeing the all black design of the camera like all the other reviewers in the world. You are focussing on the important things. 👍
That all black does look good but.....
@@deanisplemoni ehhh I’d love it if they kept the red ring under the drive mode dial. The red accents on the S5ii look so good
Anti-fun police
Thanks Panasonic. I can now use this camera in hot, hot Jamaica with no fear of overheating. No more overheating Sony a7iv or other poorly designed Sony mirrorless cameras.
Panasonic states the operating temperature range of this camera is 32 to 72 degrees Farenheit. That concerns me.
@@paulmatulavich7321 I have used the GH4/5 in Jamaica with no overheating problems. Temperature runs about 28-34° Celsius.
Great info! For a TH-cam talking head camera, would you recommend the S5ii or Sony FX 30?
Either are great for that. The S5II will give you better low light performance but the Sony will give you more affordable lenses.
I have the s pro 24-70 sitting on my desk right now just waiting for my S5iix so I can actually use it lol. I was going to go with just the primes but when the price dropped $500 it was enough of a discount to justify it. As a narrative filmmaker that lens is perfect (aside from the weight and size). Manual focus clutch, par focal, no focus breathing and easily reframe when filming 60p without swapping lenses. One thing that is never really talked about is when you see that Roger Deakins likes a 28mm or Spielberg sees the world in 21mm they are talking about super 35 which is a 1.44x crop compared to the S5. So the s prime 35 turns into 24mm and the S prime 24 turns into 16.5mm. I love that I can actually set the 24-70 to 30mm and know I have the field of view of 21mm on a cinema camera. This lens lets you film an entire feature film without ever having to change the lens. It is essentially a cine lens.
Lol are you me?!
@@jaysokk You did the same thing?!
@@rAustinBall yep! Except I got the Sigma version
@@jaysokknot the same
I actually live the red accent on the s5ii. I just finished a full cine rig with the s5ii. I have a sigma 24-70 and the irix 40mm cine lense, amazing combo
Epic review! Thanks for sharing such an in-depth review that we all needed :)
Loving your Lumix content, mate...the perfect balance between informative and accessible! Keep up the great work! :) I'm considering a move up to Lumix full frame options (coming from the G9 and GH5 Mk.ii) for video and your vids have given me a lot to consider...thanks and best wishes from Scotland! :)
I have no idea why the Live Crop never made it into the GH6.
😂😂 they forgot about it
Such a bummer about the 1080P 50/60FPS with no PDAF. I also agreed about the audio channels, I wish you could turn them off. I wish they would fix this too. I really wanted the S5iix but I think I'm going to stick with the S5II.
The S5II is a solid choice and is more than enough for 99% of situations. I knew as soon as I found out about the X the extra features wouldn't be something I would utilize much.
I don’t think this is a big deal. Just shoot 4K 60P right?
By buying the S5IIX, you’re future proofing yourself. The S5II will have the option to unlock certain features the S5IIX has. In the future, it’s going to cost you the same as having paid that extra for the S5IIX, just to get the additional features the S5IIX has. I think the extra $300 was worth it
What audio channel problem?
Thank you very much for your presentation.
There is still the heavy chroma NR (and the heavy sharpening in 6K) with the regular profiles like standard or natural on the X ?
I sold the S5II because of that. My S1 has not this issue with these profiles, much better details in low light when cropping.
I haven't noticed it. The 6K looks great and somewhat softer than I was expecting, especially when shooting VLOG.
Looks like its still there. If you want the most out of this sensor, externally record BRAW. The BRAW out of this camera seems to work like native Black Magic cameras. You get highlight recovery, white balance control, and accurate exposure compensation. Seems like that S52 ( with paid firmware update) or S52x and a Blackmagic assist is the best "cheap" large format cinema camera available period.
Highlight recovery gave Gerald Undone almost an extra stop in the highlights.... that puts your dynamic range up in Red category.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Yes I used V-Log as well because other profiles were oversharpened in 6K (they also have noise reduction or something similar blurring fine details in low light in 6K and 4K) contrary to my S1.
V-Log on the S5II was great but too noisy in low light when using 6K and cropping. It is why I sold the S5II, the S1 has better details rendering and 0 noise reduction with the regular profiles.
I hope Panasonic will release a S1II or S1HII with zero details filtering like on the S1 and S1H
@@jessecumberledge4530 Yes but I mostly do run and gun so I don't want to record externally, the S1 and S5 don't have noise reduction and oversharpening with the 709 profiles, but they still have good dynamic range.
However the AF on these cameras is nowhere as good as the S5II ...
I tried the Canon R6II recently, I like the colors, the IBIS is good, the AF is great and the 4K60fps has no crop but the details rendering is just slightly better than the S5II with 709 profiles, really not as good as the S1.
It seems most brands are trying to mimic Sony ugly rendering when using 709 profiles now (with oversharpening and noise reduction).
Even with my M43 cameras (G9 and GH6) I never seen such bad rendering with the 709 profiles, very disappointing from Panasonic because they always had the best image quality whatever the profiles I've used. Now they try to catch smartphone users with oversharpening and NR everywhere with most profiles.
wait, it’s my first time seeing this channel…
Is this the same Shane from “Intheblues”??
It's me! :) I don't cross promote my channels much. I wanted this to grow organically. :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy that is very cool though! Good to see you do other things in another channel!
I admire your ability to do so much diverse content!!
@@haydenlee8332 Thanks Hayden! I am a big camera and tech nerd :) hehe
Wish their S-Pro primes are similar to their S Prime lens but with much much much much superior quality and optics. Not that I'm complaining about the S Lenses but with just a little bit more money and you can get the Sony GM 1.4 primes. It's kinda hard to justify the price difference. Other than superficial stuff that I spoke about, the S series of prime is a great set
would it be possible for me to use the internet of the mobile operator of the cell phone to do the live on youtube?
Thanks for the review, Shane. Aside from your Into the Blues channel, what other channels do you have on youtube??? Mark in Marin County
I have three channels over 30k subs right now but a lot of time is spent filming for another project that will be on a different channel I am helping with behind the scenes. :)
Does anyone know if the autofocus works normally in FHD?
Yes but only in 24/25/30p. Phase Hybrid won't work at 50p. I am pretty sure I answered that in the vide in the cons section.
Nice Video! I'm mostly a stills shooter but looking at a video centric camera to add to my bag. Been looking at this camera for a while now, I think I may have to take the plunge.
Does it have 4k 120fps?
No. I covered that in the video.
Thanks for the work you put into this review! Can either the S5ii or the S5iix be continuously powered to allow for unlimited recording? I want to shoot video for multiple hours outside.
Yes via usb-c PD
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks for your reply! 🥳🥳
Hi mate, the part starting @9:19 100fps in 1080 did you lose pdaf while recording or could you still use pdaf? Thanks for feedback greetings from Germany
Yes, any frame rates above 60p.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy thanks mate for the respond 🙏🏻
Wow. I'm impressed about how the market is blooming after the pandemics and chip shortage. From mid 2022 to (i suppose) end of 2024 the camera market has been and will be crazy. It started with Fuji XH2 and XH2S, and doesn't seem to stop. Nikon Z8, Panasonic S5IIX and S5II, Canon cheapo entry level R50, R10 and R8, etc. And we wait for next Nikon cameras, Panasonic new S1 lineup (i think will be incredible cameras), Canon R5 replacement, etc. For me it's even more difficult to decide for one system 😅😅😅😅😅. I think i will sell my Z50, Z30 and lenses and i will stay with Nikon and Canon DSLR until the market settles 😊
You're spot on! There are so many great options now, and more keep coming out. I like how Panasonic will support its cameras in the future with firmware updates rather than releasing a new one every other week.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Exactly. New cameras are cool. But, updating cameras with new features through firmware updates is more productive and less expensive.
I need your help. I recently sold my sony a7iv and bought panasonic s5ii and sigma 24-70. I noticed that when changing the aperture, no matter in what mode, there are sharp jumps on the screen and on the video. It's like when you change the aperture for a split second, a huge black vignette appears around the edges, it's very noticeable.
On Sony, this is not the case, and when changing the aperture from one extreme value to another, only the blurring of the background changes, and the exposure changes smoothly and imperceptibly. I'm trying to figure out if this is a lens problem or a feature of Panasonic cameras.
It sounds like the Sigma lens possibly. The exposure changes on the Panasonic with the native lenses is way better than my Sony A7SIII and lens combos.
Great camera, great video. Tempted by S5ii and S1 prices, but the black+ssd is worth the extra. (I hope the big S1 line keeps going, though.)
This or the s1h?
No 4k 120fps?
This is where the C70 wins.
Can you change language japanese to english?
Sure thing!
People complain about the 1.5x crop on the S2II & S2IIX, but forget that all other cameras in that price range have either a crop or quality just goes down to 1080p at 60fps+. I’ll take a 1.5x crop because it’s just like shooting from a APS-C camera that comes with a crop. The big thing for me is how it doesn’t overheat and the IBIS is probably the best one out there. The low light performance is also a deal breaker. Canon can’t compete with this unless you get a lens for low light shots. You can get a little better results with Sony but you have to step it up and spend way more for an FX30 😐
Does the Lumix s5ii record audio with an on board microphone or is an external microphone required. Thanks to your videos I too will own a Lumix s5ii with the 20-60mm lens. I love your channels 😊
It has an on board mic
@@herbertwalde thank you for the prompt response. Very helpful information
Do you suggest any zoom lens for wildlife photography for lumix 5iix2
Who doesn't love Panasonic cameras? This is a working professional tool, and has features the other 'Big names' don't have.
GREAT VIDEO, GH6 or S5IIX?
Both have their own advantages. The S5IIX is the best image quality and autofocus, but the GH6 has the killer 4K120 and more affordable lenses.
any info about phase auto focus , on all rec modes
With an Update you can Record in Blackmagic RAW 👌🏼
I am still deciding between this S5IIX and the FX30 or the ZV-E1, but I am more attracted by the Lumix. Uf! Thanks for the video!
Both are solid cameras. I like the FX30 for the small form factor and more affordable lenses (and the 4k120 with AF), but the LUMIX has better image quality, tools, and photographic features. I actually like the S Series lenses more than most of the E Mount ones. My suggestion is don't get the E1. Overheating is a huge problem for some people. I might do a comparison video coming up :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Thanks, highly appreciated your input. I already own an S1R and an S5 with the 20-60 kit lens and love it; also have the 85mm f1.8. I really like the way you test the cameras...Thanks for taking the effort.
GREAT video! Looking for holiday deals on Lumix gear.
Is there any way to stop the corner warping on >20mm lenses when handheld? Does the 18mm Lumix prime suffer from it as well?
Hi mate. I only had a chance to test the 18mm on the original S5 which did show signs of warping. It's supposed to be way better controlled on the S5II/X. I can tell you that 20mm is awesome on this camera so 18 should perform better on this than the original S5.
Have you experienced a little delay between hitting record and the recording actually starting? On the screen the delay translates into a little stutter/jump but it isn't in the actual footage as it seems to happen when the timer/recording actually starts. It happens in mov and prores but doesn't seem to be an issue in MP4. S5iix on the latest fw with 2 64g prograde v90ii 250mb cards. Any input would be great!
I haven't noticed it to be a problem. I am using V90 Silicon Power cards. That said, I didn't really shoot much ProRes in my tests. The files are too big.
hi Geeky! Is there a big difference in image quality between the Lumix Pro 24-70 f2.8 and the Lumix 20-60? At maximum relative aperture, which is sharper?
Good question. I’ll add that to my review 👍
Of course, the 24-70mm is much sharper, much better micro contrast and f2.8. One of the best Panasonic optic.
Im curious if you don't mind testing, with the USB port supporting SSDs this also takes away the option to power the camera via PD.
Are you able to connect a USB hub with ones that have pass through charging to the device so that you can in fact connect an SSD and charge at the same time.
All the years of us b!tching about PDAF finally paid off! And both the S5 II & S5 II X are even better than i hoped for!
Cant wait what a S1H II or a GH7 will look like!
Also so great to see that Panny is giving you some love with review units Shane! :)
It would have been good if they jumped on the PDAF train earlier, but I am glad they finally did it also. I am keen to see what's next for MFT. The S1H II will no doubt be great, but I am hoping to see a great MFT camera with the same PDAF next to bring that system up to speed. Thanks for the comments and for watching. :)
Your videos are terrific: please keep up the good work.
Have you tried adjusting settings for any of the filming modes (for example, natural)? If so, would you be willing to share them with us?
Thank you...
I usually work with custom settings on my profiles (on the most part). I'll put a video about that coming up soon :)
can you do a video on how long it will take to fill up 1TB SSD with the different recording formats. S5IIX?
I just received my S5IIX - yay! I think I have discovered a firmware bug when using a vintage lens - Takumar 50mm f1.4 - with an SSD connected. The usual start-up selection dialogue box you see confirming focal length etc., of the lens is absent when starting from SSD. It only seems to appear when using internal SD storage. Otherwise an incredible camera - pleased I waited for the s5IIX.
What about photography this camera ❤
From what I’ve seen in other reviews, the photography rocks! The autofocus can get a little wonky with flying birds when they pass by a busy backdrop. For the most part, the still images are killer.
It's great. I covered the photography in my original S5II Review.
I feel like the X is overkill for 90% of people. Being able to record to SSD would be nice
100% agree. I kind of said that at the end as well. The ProRes, Raw, and All-I codecs is something I would never use for my work in and out of TH-cam. It's great that the option is available though, for people who are already using that workflow.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy I was commenting at the start while watching. Great minds…. 😀
No more like 98%. Should have just not paid for prores in camera and just given the S52 a h.265 All I codec, and then make the user go external recorder if they want the highend codec. I do love the blacked out look. I have an S52 already, I could use another one. I consider myself a pretty heavy user and I think I would just go with the S52 over the X. I would like that external BRAW for my passion projects though....
@@jessecumberledge4530 It’s flexibility and growth potential. You can save a few hundred and get the S52 and be fine for 90% of use cases. However somewhere down the line you get the need to shoot higher quality video, all-I, raw, what ever you will need to purchase and upgrade to the S5ii that’s almost the exact same price as the S5iix but still miss out on some of the feature set that’s present in the S5iix. Reality is as you become more professional you likely will shift to proper video cameras like a C70, fx6 or Komodo. Great thing about the S5iix is it makes a brilliant b cam to those cameras with codecs and quality options to match it.
Just buy the S5iix, it’s still cheaper than the majority of its competitors and offers more, while having massive growth potential.
@@jockturner1547 We need Panasonic to get a new competitor out for those lower end cinema cameras you mentioned. A upgrade path in the Panasonic ecosystem would be nice. Need a new Varicam with a L mount ASAP.
This is probably a subjective opinion, but I feel that your B-roll since you are using the S5II and Gh6 looks significantly better, don’t know how, maybe “reacher” in color tones, or maybe you are using different Luts? The thing is that those clips look beautiful!
Thanks for the kind words. The S5IIX Broll in the park was shot with the GH6 and the shots of me with the Sirui lens and GH6 was 4k60 on the S5II.
I'm considering both cameras and would appreciate your insight. If I were to simply shoot at 4K24 frames 10 bit 422 and wanted the convenience of recording to an SSD for workflow would you suggest the X? The only reason I would be upgrading to the X model would be that convenience .Appreciate your thoughts in advance.
The USB-C recording functionality is pretty cool. That said, it requires a specific setup/cage to get it all connected and portable. The feature is great, but I would rather keep the rig smaller when doing any sort of travel. 2 x 256gb cards is usually enough and you can also backup the recording on the fly which is what you can't do with the SSD.
Thanks for the quick response… Easy to see why your channel is growing. Continued success.
Hi Shane, question. Are the audio features/specs/settings the same between the S5II and the S5IIX?
They are the same yep!
So will the apsc crop at 60fps still give you phase detect AF?
Yes
How big would you say the difference in autofocus reliability is between the Lumix S5ii and a Sony camera like the A7siii for complex situations, such as weddings, backlit subjects, lowlight, crowded places, etc..?
The LUMIX is better at a distance and snaps on faster than my FX3/A7SIII. Up close, the Sony is better, but not by much.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Have they fixed losing the new hybrid auto focus when shooting in 1080p/60? I nearly pulled the trigger on purchasing a S5ii until that bombshell at the end.
what camera do you use? like to shoot this video
I am on the verge of buying the X, I meant to ask you b/4. does the battery door have the same slot as the GH-6 FOR A DUMMY BATTERY CABLE?
The battery door is like the original S5. All of the S5 dummy batteries work. The GH6 has a slightly different cable angle where it needs to go through the hole.
Have you found a way to get the HDMI latency down to the normal ~50ms? A 120-300ms delay is an absolute deal breaker for me as I always use an external monitor, never rely on autofocus, and often have a 1st AC pulling focus.
Setup you record mic port to Line in camera menu
@@kaktamdelaand this reduce the delay down to 50ms?
I'll probably start with lumix 5-2 and then time will tell I hope they will accept me into the panasonic family
thx for the helpful and breezy review.
dang, was considering getting a sony fx30 but the panny s5iix seems to do everything better except AF, which i never use.
yurr, av owned the sony a73 and now the fx3. jus the 24-70mm gmaster v1 for a lens.
i used to own x2 panny g85's and x1 gx85.
loved using those for walking around stuff and mounting to the inside of a car window w a ram suction mount.
great ibis, affordable lenses, but mft lowlight is rough.
seems like brandwise, sony and panny are kings in the $2-4kish mirrorless range.
w sony specializing in beast lowlight performance and a great selection of 1st/3rd party lenses that arent too out of reach.
panasonic seems to specialize in good ibis, 2nd-best lowlight at this pricepoint for mirrorless, better menus, more weatherproof type features/funner to shoot with.
my only gripes w the panny cameras are the skintones look too red/yellow, and the lens selection is, as u said, pricey & limited.
id probs save a couple bucks re-using my sony npfz100 batteries from my fx3/a73, and the possibility of swapping lenses if theyre full frame.
that bein said, for a walkaround or car window mounted camera, the s5iix seems superior bcoz of the ibis. (fx30 ibis and lowlight perhaps lesser bcoz 6k oversampling and not fullframe)
and the price seems fair for a feature rich camera. but idk, hesistant, long term, idk about panny lineup of lenses. leica be pricey.
plus i like getting goofy samyang dumblenses and not usin AF anyway.
but yeh both brands are great in this price range. and def the gx85 was my fave camera. so fun as a travel camera.
but the fx3 feels pro, w the recording time, fan, beefy workhorse vibes. caged w a 98wh battery + atomos, its a pretty solid indie film reliable little camera.
zcam seems interesting too but seems plagued by a thousand little issues, and reliability is king in filmmaking.
crazy how far cameras have come in the past 10 yrs. movin beyond the canon t5i fosho😂
The Autofocus on the S5II and X is easily as good as the FX30. I have both cameras and the body tracking is better on the S5II, but the touch to focus is better on the Sony. Both are excellent either way. :)
thank you for thsi great review. :)
What about webcam function over USBC? If one want to buy a large sensor live streaming camera what would you recommend?
The FX30. You plug it in and it works.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy thanks
And does mode Full HD 25p have PDAF?
Yes. I covered the modes that don't in the video.
I'm waiting for the S1Hmk2
Great review. Yes, the contrast only AF in 60p is a bummer. But, for me, I hardly shoot any slow motion. I know a lot of people complain about such limitations. But, how often to they really shoot that way?
I saw someone post in a Facebook group for the ZV-E1 complaining that his camera overheated after 24 minutes filming in 60fps. I asked him what he was filming. He said he was filming himself working on his car engine. I asked him why he needed to film in 60fps for that, his reply was, "Cuz, I wanted to." I would be curious as to who would be interested in watching someone work on their car for 24 minutes in slow motion.
Tons of situations where 60 is needed. Normally it would be shorter burst, but not always. If you don't need it for your normal workflow then its not a issue, but for some it is 100% a deal breaker.
60p looks great and a lot of people prefer the smoother look and it also allows you to selectively slow it down in post on a 30p timeline. The camera has AF in 4K 60, but with a crop. If you're filming sport or events 60p is usually better for streaming at higher quality.
@@GeekyNerdyTechyYea, I can see how streaming at 60fps would look better. But, even TH-cam videos shot at 30fps look really digital. I’m a filmmaker first, and I try to avoid digital looking footage. At 60fps slowed to 24fps it must look like a soap opera. But, I guess that’s what some people want.
@@AllThingsFilm1 Nobody is filming in higher framerates the whole time. Only shots which are - for whatever creative reasons - intended to (selectively) be slowed down are filmed in higher framerates. So it's always good to have the option available to us.
Active cooling is SUCH a cheap addition for them to add they should really add it to any camera that has potential to overheat. Instead, manufacturers selectively include it to differentiate models and for marketing etc etc. it’s a situation where the market has failed. Look at the ZV-E1 as a perfect example. $3k body that didn’t have the budget for active cooling? You have to cough up extra $3k for the FX3 😂😂😂
Applaud the video, how to use it with phone plz
Give me 50% of its features for 50% of the price please! Let me choose what features I want and customise the camera for my needs. If I need something extra I can buy a software upgrade later.
The ladies funny little moments... cute
I’m not gonna blame the camera… But I went to my local Camera store and they let me put my card in the camera and test it out in the store. When I got home, it was some of the crummiest images I’ve ever seen in my life. I’m sure it’s the person who set the camera up, and not the camera. The images were blurry, and there was no ibis whatsoever. So I can’t blame the camera. I need to test it again before I rag on it. Everybody on the Internet is raving about this camera, so I’m sure whoever set the camera up for me didn’t know what they were doing. It’s a shame because it’s left a bad taste in my mouth.
There’s a reason why everyone loves these. I have 4x S5II cameras now and a bunch of other gear and these are great. Once you set it up it’s awesome. Maybe watch my tutorial video for help on getting the most out of it.
“Reasons”. You don’t use apostrophes for plurals. 😊
Them disadvantages 😢
Let’s start with the fact that it doesn’t come with a charger, a battery charger… This camera is so cheap do you really expect them to also give you a charger?. And you say the X is overkill… Sometimes you don’t know what you’re talking about. The X is never overkill.
For a measly $200 more why would you not want the extra benefits??
Extra benefits are for those who use it. Their cheaper cameras come with chargers. Logic.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy
Facts 👏🏾 👍🏾
For me, All-I and ProRes are unnecessary since BRaw can be smaller while higher quality. I shoot in the dark a lot, so having buttons which I can see helps. Hopefully they don’t make the raw upgrade too expensive! 🥲