Panasonic S5 IIx Review - Dark Lumix ft. ProRes & ALL-I

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  • @TheHybridShooter
    @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +25

    *4 Months with Panasonic S5 II* - FW Update, Lenses, Comparisons & More - bit.ly/LumixS5II4months

  • @Smorfar
    @Smorfar ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Great video as always. No long intro, no talking head segments, just well structured pure information.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!

    • @fairymiles
      @fairymiles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why i love this channel...

    • @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112
      @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And no fake humor. Some other channels waste a LOT of their viewers' time by forced "gags" and "humor". Some of those "gags" take 3-4 seconds. I just don't have time to endure that kind of "humor"...

  • @Alexrocks1253
    @Alexrocks1253 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm really glad Panasonic came out with such a strong comeback.

    • @user-tm5pn3ov9o
      @user-tm5pn3ov9o ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are crushing it! We need them in this game.

  • @fraktor564
    @fraktor564 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zdravím!
    Děkuji natáčení recenzí, vždy se na vás podívám, protože vždy nejvíce zjistím. 👍👍👍

  • @GregorMima
    @GregorMima ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every camera nowdays should feature SSD recording. On a sidenote get a m2 nvme SSD in an external case - super small compared to big old SATA SSDs. And m2 SSDs are actually super cheap now. Wish we could have addon SSD grips like battery grips for these cams. Thanks for the review!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don’t recommend using M.2 SSDs in enclosure for video recording, I’ve had a lot reliability issues with that in the past. “Readymade” external SSD is a safer choice.
      My pleasure!

  • @gbwalther3198
    @gbwalther3198 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review of the Lumix S5IIX camera. Luv how u integrate lots of real life footage with your critiques. Wonder when Panasonic will release the S1HII. Hope they listen and heed your suggestions so that they are incorporated into their future cams. 😎😎

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I don't think that they will release S1H II, I think that they will continue using more compact S5 style bodies.

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Informative Panasonic review.

  • @paulbeckmann
    @paulbeckmann ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always! Thanks!

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I've been waiting for🥂

  • @spen007
    @spen007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concise and tô the point.
    Great Review.
    Keep on keeping on.
    Thank you!

  • @vadimlanda21
    @vadimlanda21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top useful review as usual! Thank you very much!

  • @Kevlexicon
    @Kevlexicon ปีที่แล้ว

    great review, a lot of info. glad the fan doesnt make a lot of noise, that concerns me w any camera since i shoot in small interior spaces most of the time

  • @PetrZeVsetina
    @PetrZeVsetina ปีที่แล้ว

    Nemas nekde odkaz na ty kabliky? Jaky jsi pouzival gimbal?

  • @hoodaffairstv
    @hoodaffairstv ปีที่แล้ว

    People are complaining about the crop in 60p or 50p, doesn't look bad at all

  • @Pixelpeeps-69
    @Pixelpeeps-69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video 👌 is this the best video camera for professionals who video weddings ?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! It is definitely among the best options.

  • @alexly9178
    @alexly9178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi brother the hybrid shooter
    I am new to youtube .I need a camera as I always watching on your chanel. Between the two camera s2 and the 2x which one you recommend?please give me your advise. Thanks. God bless you all.

  • @MaxKimura
    @MaxKimura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review!! Would V60 SD cards be enough for most of the video options?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're welcome! Depends on what you mean by most. I definitely recommend getting V90 cards for S5 IIx.

  • @KeithsTVHD1
    @KeithsTVHD1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, dope video, do you have a link to that black mamba cage?

  • @barthaattila12
    @barthaattila12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video. Is it possible to copy the footage from SD card to the SSD?

  • @Mangozoom
    @Mangozoom ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I will definitely buy this camera.... unfortunately I have to wait at least 5 years until I can get a used body for around $1000 😂🎉

    • @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112
      @mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look at how much the original S5's price has fallen - I'm pretty sure you won't need to wait THAT long. As soon as a successor is released, the price of the S5 II X tanks - like was the case with teh S5.

  • @goodtimezproductionz
    @goodtimezproductionz ปีที่แล้ว

    Best lens for portrait photography for the s5iix?

  • @sleightlyimpossible
    @sleightlyimpossible ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you shoot open gate (3:2) ProRes? I can't find the answer anywhere online!

  • @Wildridefilms
    @Wildridefilms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you give away the unannounced gimbal @ 12:24 😂

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, that is Weebill 3 announced about a year ago.

    • @Wildridefilms
      @Wildridefilms ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter oh ok sorry about that 🤦‍♂️

  • @nordfresse
    @nordfresse ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a little confused with the codecs, so the open gate 6k is not recording in Prores, is that right? Can it be recorded in Raw then?

  • @kmwong1786
    @kmwong1786 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are there any differences with burst shots writing to SD and SSD?

  • @Clickumentary
    @Clickumentary ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review! Curious, how are you able to adjust rolling shutter in NLE program you are using? Looks like Pr and I'm fairly sure Davinci Resolve does not have such a tool/plug-in. All the best to you!

  • @IsaacFromHK
    @IsaacFromHK ปีที่แล้ว

    when you compare, can you also compare it to Fuji Xh2S if possible? Do you think the 4K60 crop is a huge issue?

  • @rohit_sharma2512
    @rohit_sharma2512 ปีที่แล้ว

    always on point ❤

  • @cinematools
    @cinematools ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the detailed video!
    Have you noticed a difference in the noise pattern between h265 and ProRes?

  • @griffin8820
    @griffin8820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we Going to see the review of FUji Xs20 tomorrow??
    Have you already received it?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I am not getting Fuji review units before the release.

  • @udahuda
    @udahuda ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Which gimbal you use with this camera?

  • @ariruishalme4403
    @ariruishalme4403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Panasonic will rule 😊

  • @KrisHTX
    @KrisHTX ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you ever going to experiment with HDR video to upload to TH-cam?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but not on this channel, at least not in reviews. Camera reviews are not a good subject for experimenting with HDR.

  • @rohitnarayanan6868
    @rohitnarayanan6868 ปีที่แล้ว

    does this camera have fully functional touchscreen display? Can i navigate through the menu and change stuffs or it can be used only for certain tasks like touch to focus ??

  • @Alanovision
    @Alanovision ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure the sensor is BSI?

  • @xiondFirst
    @xiondFirst ปีที่แล้ว

    Are some of the features locked with Ninja Atmos or SSD?

  • @idandavid1
    @idandavid1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, thanks!
    Can you please make a video about the benefits of recording prores and prores raw?
    I have an a7iv and i am not planning on getting a different camera soon but i am curious to see how much of an advantage it would be using those formats compared to what the a7iv can records.
    Thanks!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you! I am not the biggest expert on codecs, so I will leave that to somebody with more in-depts knowledge on this subject.

    • @Wildridefilms
      @Wildridefilms ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Prores is mostly just a workflow format. It should be easier to edit and it also will have fewer compression artifacts.
      Prores RAW and Blackmagic RAW are RAW video formats, similar to RAW photos, but not quite as much flexibility. Still the latitude would be much higher for exposure (close to around 10 stops compared to 7 stops in compressed codecs. And WB can be altered completely. So it's a lot more flexible to shoot and not nearly as important to get exposure and WB right on camera.
      All Intra codecs are kept in the same compression enclosures (h.264, h.265) but their compression is done for each frame individually and not as a difference between two frames to put it very simply. It is also much easier to edit than GOP codecs.

  • @tomvanrijswijk4517
    @tomvanrijswijk4517 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video once again! Question: I'm considering both the A7IV with 20-70mm f/4 and the S5ii with 20-60 f/3.5-5.6. Ofcourse other lenses as well, but this will be my primary lens. In terms of handling: How do you like the 20-60? Is the zooming smooth, build quality alright? I think with the sensors of these days low light should not be a problem for both and I will use a separate lens for portraits. Hope you can help me with this.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      20-60 is an OK kit lens, but I wouldn't recommend it as the main lens for S5 II, it deserves something better. The handling is completely fine, I have no complaints.

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Theoretically, the best performers would be the Leica-certified S PRO line (16-35; 24-70; 50 f/1.4; 70-200, both f/4 & f/2.8). They have a clutch and the best motors, tuning, coatings etc.
      The 24-105mmF4 is not an S PRO, but is well-regarded and a step up from the 20-60. Add an 18mm (built for video transitions) for the wide end.
      Sigmas are less tuned for video, but the 50mmF1.4 DG DN and 60-600mm DG DN have new motor systems which improve smooth transitions.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fellowcitizen Sigma lenses are just as well tuned for video, there is no difference in focus transition smoothness.

    • @thepaintpeople
      @thepaintpeople ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter what about focus breathing?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thepaintpeople I it is shown in all of my lens reviews.

  • @nako0420
    @nako0420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I preordered this bundled with the 14-28 at a discount ($399 us) for the lens. I noticed a lot of shots in the video were with the 16-35. I saw your review of the 14-28 but do you have a preference for one or the other?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really, the are very different lenses for different purposes.

  • @jumpingman6612
    @jumpingman6612 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the reviews! Currently waiting for some announcements in the camera world (before buying a camera). The price of Nikons 200-600. And what Sonys new "a6700" will be.
    Hope you can do a video about that one!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! I am not expecting the A6700 to be announced, it is just another rumor.

  • @natehynson1081
    @natehynson1081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great overview. Any chance you could do a comparison of the 14bit raw output in single shot mode vs the 12bit raw output in burst mode?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It can shoot 14-bit RAWs in burst mode, so there is no difference.

    • @natehynson1081
      @natehynson1081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHybridShooter According to the S5II manual "The color depth of RAW images recorded with this camera is 14 bits. This is limited to 12 bits during burst recording, however." (page 121)
      The wording of the manual implies this applies to all burst modes. Have you experienced otherwise?

  • @dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567
    @dmgfilmproductionandphotog1567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what windows laptop do you recommend when video editing the highest resolution 6k of this s5iix? or what minimum laptop specs should i consider editing this 6k?

  • @Chaossenergy
    @Chaossenergy ปีที่แล้ว

    Ako vzdy, Video na jednotku 👌 Jedna mala poznamka: Kazdy TH-camr vychvaluje moznost natacat do BRAW cez HDMI na BM Assist ale zabudlo sa, ze uz obycajna S5 moze natacat BRAW na BM Assist, uz od firmware update v2.3

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ďakujem pekne! Nemyslím si, že sa na to zabudlo, len nevidím dôvod spomínať to v recenziách S5 IIx.

    • @spetlafilm
      @spetlafilm ปีที่แล้ว

      U X je zajímavé, že vyřešili problémy s debayerem, takže to funguje lépe, než u třeba starší S5.

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be great if cameras allow for ssd instead of SD - CF cards. A short M.2 ssd can be small enough to be inserted in a camera slot, and would be way faster than any card. A 2230 or 2248 would be small enough, for larger cameras even the 2280. The heat could be a problem.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe one day, but that day is very far away... The heat is unsolvable problem at the moment.

  • @mattshalash
    @mattshalash ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you sure the sensor in the S5ii and X variant are actually backside illuminated? Most spec sheets list it as a simple CMOS sensor (including the officially Panasonic spec sheet)

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, I am 100% sure.

    • @mattshalash
      @mattshalash ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter sounds good, do you have a source for this information as a regular CMOS vs BSI CMOS does make quite a big difference for sensor readout speeds (which would make me question why the S5ii sensor has a relatively low readout speed, which is what makes the 4k60p impossible in FF mode). Thx for the review, always on point as usual!

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mattshalash The source is Panasonic specs sheets from Tokyo presentation. BSI has nothing to do with read-out speed, you probably mean stacked sensor, which the S5 II doesn't have.

  • @A1Bokeh
    @A1Bokeh ปีที่แล้ว

    what about auto focus in 1080p? is it no longer pdaf?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don’t know, I haven’t shot 1080p video since 2017.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter would have been good to cover

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@A1Bokeh I have been boycotting 1080p for a long time, but you will definitely find this information somewhere on the internet.

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter why?

    • @A1Bokeh
      @A1Bokeh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter especially since this doesn't shoot 4k60 ff

  • @philrodfilms
    @philrodfilms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been debating between this and a c70 bundle for $4200. Any input on if it’s worth the extra $2k?

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      IMO absolutely not. I wouldn’t choose C70 over S5 IIx even if it was significantly cheaper.

    • @philrodfilms
      @philrodfilms ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter thanks for the reply. Do you have experience with the c70? Also, what lens do you recommend for short films on S5iix?

  • @myraproduction2023
    @myraproduction2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    LUMIX S5iiX Touch Screen ????

  • @rajathpawaskar
    @rajathpawaskar ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi where is my wishlsted Nikon z30

  • @adamarmfield1069
    @adamarmfield1069 ปีที่แล้ว

    tv stations normally ask for 10 bit 422, maybe why some people don't want to use 420

  • @hhankx
    @hhankx ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to bring all intra to s5ii model too. It’s a simple firmware update. They would dominate the market if they did that. Minus the crop on anything over 4k30 😅

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That wouldn't make any sense, those who need ALL-I are supposed to buy S5 II X. That is the whole point of separating X and non-X version.

  • @IrfanKhokharFilms
    @IrfanKhokharFilms ปีที่แล้ว

    best!

  • @ШотаГоголи
    @ШотаГоголи ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @davidmultimedia2024
    @davidmultimedia2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s a good video review overall, but you are terribly wrong about the ISO performance. This is a Dual Native ISO, so it is very clean way above 3200. In fact, the 2nd base ISO is 4000, so why would it be good up to 3200 like you mentionned? 4000 is way cleaner than 3200.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Whoa, make sure that you know what I am talking about before suggesting that I am "terribly wrong" which I am not of course. You are missing a lot of context and information.

    • @davidmultimedia2024
      @davidmultimedia2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter My comment wasn’t intended to be offensive.. just wanted to point out that you entirely skipped the main feature of the sensor, and that you are talking like it’s a Single Native ISO sensor. I watched the whole video, and you haven’t even mentionned the Dual Native ISO.. you simply say that ISO performance is "identical" to pretty much every other backside-illuminated full-frame sensor camera released after 2018.. as usually, you will get very clean images up to ISO3200. Then you don’t even speak about ISO4000 (the 2nd base ISO).. you skip to 6400 and 12800. I’m sorry, but this is a misleading statement.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@davidmultimedia2024 Offensive or not, you are still the one who is terribly wrong.
      ISO 4000 is the second native ISO only in V-Log. Does the the sample that you see when I am talking about ISO look like a V-Log to you? Second native ISO in most other picture styles is 640 and I am absolutely right when I say that you will get very clean images up to ISO 3200.
      Most cameras with FF BSI sensors actually have dual native ISO, for example Sony A7 IV has it, but nobody even speaks about it, because it is to be expected nowadays.
      Also when you select the second native ISO it doesn't mean that you will suddenly get clean images. You will just get more DR, but the noise floor still rises.

    • @davidmultimedia2024
      @davidmultimedia2024 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter Indeed.. I assumed everything was shot in V-Log then converted to Rec.709 since these days, most people are interested in V-Log and colorgrading with maximum DR and minimum sharpening/NR applied in camera... so it did affect my comprehension of your review and for that I'm sorry.. it was my mistake.
      That's right.. if your Dual Native ISO is set to ''Low'' in the menu, then obviously ISO4000 will be noisier than 3200. If you do select ''High'' manually in the Dual Native ISO Settings menu... then yes, you will automatically get much a much cleaner image at 4000 compared to 3200. If it's set to ''Auto'', then it's supposed to switch from Low to High automatically when you rise the ISO value. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, this is basically how dual native ISO works. I own the original S5 and I only have the Auto mode, but it does result in a much cleaner image when reaching 4000. Of course, you still need a proper amount of light to get clean images with high ISO values. You can get a very clean image with a high ISO value when shooting during the day, as long as there is a good amount of light available. If you close down the aperture too much in a very low light scenario..then obvously it's going to be very noisy. Exposure is always the crucial part.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidmultimedia2024 You are partially right. If you are prioritizing shadows, you will get more latitude once you cross the second native ISO threshold, but when you prioritize highlights you actually loose latitude after crossing dual native ISO threshold. Base, native and dual ISO are very complex topics which is the main reason why I don't talk about it in camera reviews.

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:43 Sony gives weird colors to skies and sometimes water surfaces. I pointed the same time ago in another of your videos (a Sony / Nikon camera comparison, I don't remember the exact models). The issue is very clear in every Sony comparison vs others brands. I started to see it after i watched a interview with a pro colorist that said that blues were difficult with Sony because grey or magenta baked in blue sky. He maked a somewhat detailed color comparison between brands

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is nothing wrong with Sony colors, just a bit different white balance, it is not better or worse than Panasonic. "Bad Sony colors" is generally just a myth carried over from almost 10 years old A7 II.

    • @amermeleitor
      @amermeleitor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter I agree in general, because all cameras have differences even with controlled white balance. One brand is not necessarily better than other, but it seems like every brand make its decisions about colors, all of them with good technical reasons. There are facts about that, some brand put grey in skies and other mess with greens, other bake magenta all over the place, etc.

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amermeleitor It is a lot more complicated than that. Color reproduction is not necessarily a "creative choice" of the manufacturers. Some manufacturers have a lot of trouble achieving acceptable level of color accuracy, but Sony is not one of them.

    • @amermeleitor
      @amermeleitor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHybridShooter all brands needs to deal with color accuracy, and none is perfect. I didn't mean "creative choice", I mean technical reasons. There's reasons why the brands do what they do and no one is perfect, even Sony. The creative choices are in the JPG images and user selected image profiles.

  • @bananamilk0124
    @bananamilk0124 ปีที่แล้ว

    1등!

  • @lonniesfilmmaking333
    @lonniesfilmmaking333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers much nice review however I believe Sony’s AF transition is smoother with their compatible lenses plus they have more control even on their new phone you can get a more smoother plus more control and with the new ZV you can have two people in focus at the same time one in the foreground the other in the back plus Sony still most portable and PS still missing product showcase which is a huge drawback for TH-camrs

    • @TheHybridShooter
      @TheHybridShooter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! No, AF transition smoothness is as good as it gets on both. It is not possible to tell them apart.
      It is not possible to focus on two focal lengths at the same time, so I don’t know what you mean by that.
      Product showcase is just a gimmick for beginners, you can easily set it up on any camera.

  • @harold3785
    @harold3785 ปีที่แล้ว

    P R O M O S M 😋