Panasonic S5 IIX: An INCREDIBLY Versatile Camera
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- Discussing the new features added to the Panasonic LUMIX S5 IIX including ProRes, external SSD recording, Blackmagic RAW, and live streaming.
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Discussing the new features added to the Panasonic LUMIX S5 IIX including ProRes, external SSD recording, Blackmagic RAW, and live streaming.
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0:00 - Intro & Disclosure
1:01 - All-Intra
2:04 - ProRes
2:47 - Autofocus Fix
4:05 - Dynamic Range Update
6:22 - External SSD Recording
10:56 - Blackmagic RAW
13:23 - BRAW Panel
20:12 - HDMI Latency
22:13 - Live Streaming
26:42 - Webcam
28:15 - Tether Control
29:08 - Final Thoughts
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FAQ Answer: This is fundamentally the same camera as the S5 II. So yes, image, rolling shutter, crops, colors, autofocus, stabilization, etc. should all be the same. It's the same sensor and processor.
If you want to know more about those aspects, I recommend watching my S5 II review here: th-cam.com/video/FYebjEgf3J0/w-d-xo.html
This video is just about what's different. Cheers! 🤓👍
Looking like a great camera and something in me keeps saying i should trade my a7siii in for it. But the rolling shutter is important to me because I do 3D camera tracking and don’t want to potentially get bad tracks. I came from a GH5s and went to the A7Siii and I still prefer Panasonics video features. I love the AF, Rolling Shutter and dynamic range of the A7Siii, but Panasonic is just a better experience in my opinion (whatever that means haha). Damn you Panasonic for not making the rolling shutter as good as the a7siii!!! 😭
Do you have any experience or thoughts about 3D camera tracking and rolling shutter?
Is there a way to contact Panasonic we need new lenses 35-150 f2-f2.8 like the samyang and Sony lenses we needs this lens in the Panasonic line up for weddings !!!
I seriously hope they update the S5II with the tracking with a monitor connected.
Fun fact, using the DJI RS3 and its integrated tracking doesn’t work in the higher resolutions (same behaviour as connecting HDMI) so hopefully that gets solved.
It’s be nice if they offered a $300-$400 upgrade to bring SSD recording and all the other features to parity with the S5IIX (not just the RAW recording stuff)- everything except the blacked out design - unless firmware can do that …….. 😳😂🤦🏾♂️
THEY FIXED THE HUMAN DETECT BEING DISABLED IN 5.9K/6K WITH HDMI / DJI RS3 CONNECTED IN THE 2.0 S5II FIRMWARE!!! 🔥
Now …… and this is doubtful, imagine if we can get a paid firmware to enable SSD recording providing there’s no hardware limitation like the USB-C port lol - still waiting on firmware to make the body blacked out 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@itsdjbuddha Thanks for the info, DO I need to pay for 2.0 FW update? I don't need prores or ssd recording, I just want the camera to work AF even in 6k mode so I am considering between regular s5m2 and s5m2X
I can't believe I have to buy ANOTHER camera. Thanks Gerald!!
But the biggest question is.. how will it compare to the zv-e10?
@@Giovanni-Giorgio 🤣🤣
I'll say this as a good thing. This video felt endless! How many options can a machine offer? that's honestly insane, as the title says, the versatility of this is crazy. thanks Gerald, keep up the good work.
Except for full sensor width 4K 60, which is rather disappointing.
@@richrollin4867 yh, it kind of may be, for some. Me personally, I've been shooting APSC or s35 anyway, so I'm kind of used to s35 60fps, I don't really care, but it's understandable. Industry standard is still s35 tho
@@kel.casabo I see your point, but it seems a shame to buy a full frame camera - only to use less than half of its sensor for video.
@@richrollin4867 a shame but atleast they gave you the option
The a6400 for example does oversampled 4k from 6k at 30 fps ( cropped 1,2x?) , Yet doesnt offer crop non oversampled 4k60
Love seeing how excited you are about all the features and the SSD handle. It makes me happy to see your joy!
We were all waiting for Panasonic to fix Auto-Focus for AGES. But they finally did it! And it came with A LOT of other features! Well done, PanaBOY!
Impeccable timing, literally started looking at this camera yesterday. Gerald, you're a legend!
I am so incredibly excited about this camera. I preordered right when it got announced and nearly waited half a year for the first review. Thank you for the great work. Keep it up!
How have you liked it?
@@laylahassomethingtosay Great update for my S5. Besides the cool color I think, the regular S5ii would've been enough. Anyways with the 2TB SSD and 100,- cash back I got when preordered, I think it was a good deal and fundamentally a great camera.
@@lutzrenneke4415 Oh sweet, I'm happy for you-- that's great that the SSD was included!
Just this morning I went ahead and order an S5ii. I had my eyes set on the x for so long, but then realized that the international S5ii's were on sell for $1290 and couldn't pass that up😅 Plus I figure that my personal work mostly winds up on youtube, so the All-I codecs would really just be for the editing workflow🤷🏻♀
I do think the S5iix's are gonna hold their value better though. Even the international versions aren't seeing nearly the same discounts.
I VERY much appreciate the nerdy deep dive into the BRaw implementation and exposure range!
For the amount of work you put into each video and also the callouts from other creators you definitely should have way more followers IMO. None the less thank you for your service :) Legendary Review.
This is the camera I’ve been waiting for. Thank you, Panasonic 🙏
Hey man this video just randomly popped on my youtube feed, and i’m glad it did. I appreciate how vulnerable you are. Keep going my man. Just earned a new subscriber
Panasonic has made such an amazing camera with the 5ii and 5iix. They have just moved the goal posts waaaaaay far! Currently waiting for the X . Thanks for the amazing video.
This review is as packed with info as the camera has features 👍
An amazing detailed report! Thanks Gerald!!
Gerald is an absolute camera-review God. Thank you for your work.
Thank you for making this video!
Wow, and that's even pre-launch! I'm excited!
Thank you for this great review! In terms of video quality and features, which camera would you choose between the Lumix S5 II and the Fuji X-H2S for run and gun situations? Cheers
CVP wasn't able to get the BRAW working in time so it's nice to see it covered in detail here
Hey great vid Gerald! I can feel your excitement as I am also excited about the camera… My ONLY big concern is this… I want to upgrade my video camera to this Lumix for many reason but mainly because I want the 4K60 for the slow-mo sequence I mostly create. Thing is, since it’s in aps-c, how less good it would be then 4k60 FF? Will the only difference be the fact that I will need to position myself further from the subject due to the crop? Or will it also influence my lenses capabilities from 2.8 to 4.2? Because if that’s so, I don’t see the reason to upgrade to this to get 4k60 and destroy my aperture in exchange… I AM STUCK hahaha… I would greatly appreciate your tech help, and also looking for visual differences examples so I can clearly see the difference…. Anyway anything that can help me!
Wow!!! Great vid! Great specs!!
Superb… the Video Assist into the Kondor Blue handle is genius!
Excellent to the point review and great testing. Nice work Gerald.
Like always well done, Mr Undone ✌🏾
Great video as always, thank you! Did you find that you ran into the moire issue that others have, with either the S5 II or S5 II X? If so how did you rectify the issue?
Ahh yes, I've been waiting for your take. I have my pre-order in!
Great review as always! Would that hdmi delay be a problem if using with an ATEM switcher with the audio coming in from an external source into the ATEM? Would there be noticeable sync issues between the AV or distracting latency if using on Zoom for example? Definitely considering selling my Sony’s currently and moving across to Panasonic. Bit annoyed about the diversifying updates and features, particularly on my A7siii. Thanks Gerald!! Best wishes. Joel.
Just picked one up! Thanks for the in depth review, it really covered the differences :) It's a super clever little camera!
Great review! I put in my order. Question, 28:43 can you adjust the aspect ratio for people that want to stream with their anamorphic lenses?
Thank you for this video bro!
Thanks Gerald, as usual a great - detailed review :)
Great Video! Would you personally prefer the ninja v with pro res raw or would you prefer the bm video assist and use blackmagic raw if you are using Da Vinci Resolve?
Finally!
...the dream of editing off of my top handle has been realized.
Thanks for the great review,
Does the grip from the original S5 fit to the newer Models?
Great regards 😊👍🏼
Glad I preordered it back then! Can't wait to get it :)
Thank you! Informative and fun as usual. And a bit nerdy but that’s how we like it :)
YES!
Braw, full frame, far out I cant wait to get my hands on one of these!
Panasonic always looking out for us video centric peeps! I can't wait to use this thing. Love my S5 but am trading it in for the S5 IIX as soon as it comes out!
great video as always Gerald
The RTSP stream is something I've wanted for years. If you record in-studio, you can now just pipe all your coded video straight into the editing station over the network. VLC (or something like it) can take the H.264/5 out of the RTSP stream, and store it into a file verbatim. Having WebCam-style video over USB (i.e. a UVC device) would also be nice to have. This would be useful in cases where raw uncompressed video is desired instead,
Loved the review
What is the monitor mount you are using? Please and thank you!
This is why I love Panasonic.. they are not perfect but they are so amazing at the same time. That makes the other cameras feel boring . 😊
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR MONTHS
Finally, I was waiting for Gerald. Now I can upgrade and pre-order this beast!
Thanks, awesome video as always.
The camera I've been waiting for!
Great review. This solidifies my choice of going in on the original S5II as I don't do anything that needs any of these cool new features.
Thanks Gerald! Great review - I've been excited to see this camera come out for a while and love seeing it get such a detailed review. Something I've been curious about is, with the S1, the HDMI output would be 8 bit - unless you were recording 4k60 or raw video. Do we know if it's still doing this, or are all of the HDMI recording modes now 10/12 bit?
Is all HDMI output from the S1 8bit do you know? Wasn't actually aware of that.
Thanks for another great video!
I have an interesting question though - how does the S5IIX in the Blackmagic Design Film Gen5 ColorProfile match with the Pocket 6k Pro in the Gen5 profile? Because the Sensor is still different...
Fantastic Video once again. I just have a question. Does recording directly from Camera into the SSD NVME provide 12 bit RAW Cinema DNG or what type of 12 but raw? Also, what type of Black Magic Raw compression options do we get?
Excellent review 🎉
It's important to note that the current SSD limit for this camera is 2 TB. It's listed on the product page, but not a lot of reviews are mentioning this. So if you buy a pro blade /handle combo or just a regular ssd, don't go over 2 TB. After talking with both Kondor Blue and Panasonic they both used the term " current limit" ...so it's possible that this will be expanded upon in the future.
Probably because they use FAT file system so it “just works” under Windows and Mac
Is 2tb enough for Black Magic raw?
4TB SSDs require slightly more power, which seems to be the issue. If one uses a BDM VideoAssist then 4TB are supported. KondorBlue specifically mentions that there may be a delay saving footage but people have been using 4TB memory for quite some time without any issues. The downside? You will not be able to use a 4TB memory when directly attached to the camera.
Hi Gerald what is the 48-bit color we keep seeing on your charts? Does this mean the Panny can go beyond the 10-bit color depth if unlocked in the future? Great in-depth technical video on a great cam.
Hey Gerald! Does that cage + top handle setup leave enough clearance to have a DMW-XLR1 plugged in?
Another great video!! Thinking im gonna scoop this camera up soon.. Super bummed about the latency issues tho.. Side note, how do you only have 380,000 subs?? Never looked/paid attention before, always figured you had millions and millions of subs.. Best camera review channel imo as you dont fk around and get into the nitty/gritty.. There was a time when i watched every single camera review channel but tbh yours is the only one i watch reviews on these dayz
I liked the anology you used for explaining latency with livestream, like it's a quick fraction of a second delay before you answer a question. Just purchased the s5iix and waiting for it to come in now. Upgraded from a gh5. Thx for the video.
Thanks for confirming the organic 12 stops of DR. Any chance they can bring the "DR Boost" mode from GH6 to full frame to take it a step further?
Gerald, as always a great video and it would be interesting to see your revised version of this with the recent firmware update. Wishing you and yours well.
Did it change much? Im looking at this or sony a7c2
What USB c Cables are you using and how long are they Thanks For The Video
What kind of usb cable are you using for this specific set-up. I know it's from Kondor Blue which lenght are you using. It seems perfect for a set-up I'm building on a new rig. As always, thank you for you great contents!
Can't wait to order this
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
Well, I think you just dramatically narrowed down my choice for my next camera. The S5iix. If it gets the Undone Stamp of Approval, then I have to seriously consider it.
The Kondor Blue SSD Handle is super convenient and #GameChanger !!
Great job on the video as always. 10:55 Same! This looks like an amazing camera for studio work and multiple angles plus streaming uses. Maybe someday. 🤩
I got mine on pre-order!
Thank you, I enjoy videos and trust your judgement above any other camera based channels 🙏
@Gerald Undone Great video with all these tests about the implementation of BlackMagic RAW. It is often overlooked as many camera have a lot features as a type ticking boxes but the implementation is not great.
Can you check if the recording in braw affects into the dynamic range of the Fujifilm X-H2s?
The biggest letdown for me was the bad autofocus in 1080p in 60fps or higher on the S5II, but with the fix, I‘ll definitely get the s5iix
What do you mean?
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 oh but so does s5iix fix that? Or what was the guy talking about?
@Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 oh that sucks, I am assuming zve1 doesn't have that problem? But I guess 60fps is enough still dumb
@@shariqahmed336Gerald was def right in this video about the PDAF working at 1080p, 60fps, whereas the S5II does not (in full frame). I’ve been at B&H all morning comparing the two. Decided to go with the SiiX mainly for that reason (and all black is sleek af). It is noteworthy to mention PDAF at 1080p, 60fps does work for the Sii when you enter APS-C mode
Does the lumix webcam software that came out as a beta during the pandemic work for this? Think that might accomplish the sony just plug-and- go method
Great video! What about moirè effect? Is it big problem for this camera?
I love the Kondor Blue top handle. Is it compatible with a Tilta cage?
Quick question hope you can help - I connect multiple gh5 to my 4k broadcasting pc with an in build deck link capture card and livestream with this. I want to switch to full frame and am concerned with the comment you made on latency on both the s5ii and s5iix and was wondering if your comment on it would affect my use case? Thanks!
Great to hear about highlight recovery available and fixed WB with BRAW.
Since the highlight rolloff is rather gentle without any artefacts on the S series unlike the Pocket 4K and 6K, highlight recovery may actually be quite usable. :)
I really have no idea what to use Live stream use for, my HDMI adapter may even have less latency.
For when you're in the woods with just your camera and some cellular data I guess? Haha
Nice to hear from you, Dennis! :)
@@geraldundone 1080p only though then ;)
Do you have recommendations for the best SD cards for these?
Simply the best youtuber on this niche. bravo¡
Possible to confirm if all the HD modes are downsampled from the 6k sensor? Especially the ProRes. If so, that could be a great option for quick turnaround work or clients who only need HD. Thanks!
It looks really nice camera man!
Thanks for your review! Looks like the camera is not for what I do but others might love it.
How would you compare the autofocus to sony in low light and to the S52
Thank you...Great video. I might have missed it, does the auto focus still work while recording in Braw?
Yes, absolutely.
Great video! So no 4k 120p in ProRes HQ?
I was so close to getting the lumix S1H ( I still might ) but I’m looking into this one great review Gerald , Still trying to figure out the right one for me
As an FX3 owner, this S5iix, with its Prores and raw options, SHUTTER ANGLE, waveforms, vectors scopes, open gate recording and multiple anamorphic desqueeze options is twice the cinema camera my Sony ‘cinema line’ FX3 is.
Sony need to step up their game with the software updates because at half the price of the FX3 this thing is seriously tempting.
Screw it. Just pre-ordered. Sony has us celebrating low hanging fruit like releasing firmware updates that allow us to shoot in true 24fps with a 1/48 shutter angle, this camera release really puts how ridiculous that is into perspective. I hope this camera is everything it seems in the reviews because if so bye bye Sony 👋
Fantastic review as always!
@@geraltstelenheimcorneliust8180 Sony has a better lens selection, and their autofocus is still at the top but I think the new Panasonic system looks really good to where I wouldn't choose Sony for autofocus over the new phase system on this camera. Sony has got to be worried now that Panasonic has reliable AF and is putting it in their feature rich bodies at a lower price point with a better image (imo). Not to mention you get a viewfinder! That's the biggest omission from the fx30/fx3/fx6 for me, aside from lacking proper video monitoring features and shutter angle (excluding fx6 here). Can't wait to see the updated S1 and S1h models.
I like how Panasonic release a new camera and give some of its features to the old version. Are you listening Sony?
So changing the Exposure in the BRAW panel works just like changing ISO in post with BMD footage (the image reacts the same way), or the ISO is still baked into the image like other codecs and you're just changing exposure without shifting the DR?
Just shot a short film with this exact setup over the weekend with Orion primes. Worked decent!
I could not find any news on it supporting BRAW, thank you!
I keep saying I'm gonna wait until the S1 upgrade but holy hell is that getting difficult!
Can you check if it's possible to connect an usb-c dock with power delivery and nvme? Will it detecte the nvme and to power the camera at the same time? Thanks
Cute ending. Great review.
Is it possible to charge the camera and Record to SSD at the same time?
What about the stabilization? Is there an upgrade on that from the original S5 which was already good?
Does dual native iso work the same recording Blackmagic raw? Also what's the best way to connect multiple cameras over ethernet?
Fantastic video! I was specifically looking forward to your review of the Mark II X after seeing your analysis of the Mark II.
Could you provide us with a list of what resolutions have what crop factors across what recording media in what format? I'm having a hard time finding any if that information from any reviewers today- even from Panasonic themselves.
Basically 4k at higher than 30p is all APS-C. Anything 30p and under is full frame.
@@geraldundone that's awesome, I really appreciate it!
Hello on the specs it seems v60 sd card is enough for S5iix do you think we need v90? since it's quite expensive
Do Kondor Blue and SanDisk Pro Blade only work with Panasonic cameras? I have Nikon Z6 and I wonder if I can use this setup for my camera.
Great video!