Panasonic S5 PHOTOGRAPHY review
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In-depth review of the Panasonic Lumix S5 for photography!
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It's driving me crazy that almost every review of any new camera I click on only focuses on the video mode, despite not giving any indication in the title of the video. Thanks so much for bucking the trend!
You're welcome!
@@pathtooptimalhealth Actually the photo mode is at least equal (if not more) impressive to the video mode. I own an s5 and shoot 90% stills : 10% video. It produces gorgeous stills and packs some very cool creative features to assist in producing them. But as the OP pointed out most 'review' videos focus primarily on the video capabilities; certainly since it's a Panasonic camera.
I don't know about other cameras, but this camera has exceptional video capabilities so it's logical to focus on it. Also, video needs many more technical upgrades and enhancements than photography. If you want to make incredible images, just go with a 10-year-old camera like Nikon D750 and you're sorted out. They go as cheap as 400$
@@baihu4u Good to hear, thinking about getting an S5 as my new camera. I've been dubbing between choosing the Alpha A7III and the S5. I like shooting video, so I prefer the S5 over the Sony, although Sony's is better for photography (from what I've read and heard). Did you consider the Sony too? If so, what made you choose the S5?
@@baihu4uit doesn't help that the pr stills they released were horrible and embarrassing
Thanks for taking a closer look at the photo features. I got the feeling that everyone ist just talking about the video mode
You're welcome!
Really appreciate that you try to make separate photography and video reviews. I feel like mixing up those two makes sense in some cases, but honestly, doing both always feels like taking away from the other. So it's really nice that we can choose to watch the more important one or both if we want to.
Thank you for doing the Photography reviews! It's so helpful seeing a whole video about the photographic capabilities instead of 50 seconds in the end of a videography review....
After watching too many of the reviews I have to say that you do the best job...thanks.
Cheers!
As always, Gordon, stellar review. As an S1R user, I’m keen to see the trickle up effect on the next S1/S1R firmware release based on some of the enhancements evident in this camera. My hope is that Panasonic will now put more of an investment into support tutorials and videos for their L Mount products. They are woefully behind the other three major mirrorless full frame manufacturers in product education which gives the impression that they just don’t care enough about the sustainability of this system. Hopefully, they’ve turned this corner with the release of the S5.
This is the camera I've wanted for so long, to use my old FD lenses and invest in new ones. I'm saving all my money from the second job, it just goes in a lockbox while I try to acquire enough. 10% there. Thanks for the review.
Gordon, as always you have provided the most comprehensive and informative camera review on the internet. I greatly appreciate the work you do, and especially appreciate how you have started to break out photography vs video reviews. I have no interest in shooting video so it is just so good to get photography focused reviews. Personally I really like the look of the S5. Seems like a great stills camera.
Thanks!
Godon, Just bought your book, "Straight out of the Camera", and how great it is! It is deeply useful in thinking about creating good photo setups. I don't get much out of a lot of photography books, but yours is marvelous. And I do appreciate the detailed reviews you do in CameraLabs work. JP, Kansas City
Thank you for your excellent - as usual - review. This is a winner in my view, and a compelling reason to enter the Panasonic L system!
This was an incredibly helpful review, thank you!!!
Thanks Gordon for that fantastic review! ( And the shots of Brighton! :-) )
Awesome review thank you this will be the next camera on my list.
i have been waiting this for soo long, want it soo badly
One of the best camera reviews available, well done.
Thanks!
Your work is so appreciated!
As are your comments!
Absolutely great review - Thank You, Gordon !
You're welcome!
Awesome review. Probably the best S5 review online. Great samples and tests. I love the quick comparison to the competition. I just sold my G9 and pre-ordered the S5.
How are you liking that S5?
Great information. Keep up the good work!
Others do decent enough reviews but if you want the best most thorough review Gordon is your man. 💪🏻
You're very kind!
Thanks Gordo, as an amateur landscape photographer I would go for this camera over my current 7III in-light of the touch menu and that in camera composite feature. The 20-60mm lens is also a potent lure.
Excellent review, great info!
Great review. Can see the camera upclose, super analysis on the cam. Thanks a ton.
Thanks!
Thanks for another great video. This camera, with its smaller size and lower weight, make me worry a bit for Panasonic’s MFT line. I wish they’d add some form of really sticky and fast focus tracking, though. I’m more fascinated with the Canon R6 than the S5. I’m not getting rid of my G9 or other MFT cameras in the foreseeable future, though.
Great pedagogical & detailed review Gordon ! ( both of them )( PS :Iv'e already bought your excellent book! :-) )
Thanks Gordon! With the S5ii being released I just picked up a new S5 with 12-60 and 50mm and 85mm primes for 1600 quid. Crazy value!
Yeah, they are doing some brilliant deals on that one now.
Hey. Where from Ben Wlliams? I can find a similar deal but without the 85mm.
Looks like a pretty good camera. Thanks for the great review!
Another cracking review Gordon. Very interesting camera, I would till have like phase detect autofocus to make it a world beater, the hunting and low light focus are something to ponder.
Thank you for your excellent review!
You're welcome!
Wonderful review, thanks for your video!
You're welcome!
very helpful for me. Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Nice one Gordon. Mine is already on order. Must meet for a coffee some time.
I think this would make a good back-up to my SL2. Thank you very much for the well-presented review.
You're very welcome!
Great review - thanks for sharing. Just replaced my gx85 (finally) a couple days ago cuz this s5 felt just right from when I first was able to hold it in my hand.
It´s just two days and a few shots tho I can already say, I love the handling, no upper screen - fantastic built feel (weather sealing), AF joystick + USB-C charge (yaasssss) only one cable to carry around from now on.
Yes not yas 😂 eww
I finally got one. Coming from My Gh5 the photography quality is amaizing. 😊
Thank you Gordon, I just bought it In 2023. I'm so happy about the quality. 👌😁
It's tremendous value right now, and Sigma is doing some amazing lenses.
Great review, thanks!
You're welcome, and there's also some great deals on it this weekend!
Plus Signa includes an additional L Mount Lens if pre ordered during September.
i love this camera
Fantastic video for still photographers - me! Totally sold on this camera, though I don’t know why I have to pay for the video function! thank you!
Good. Nice sample footage too.
If there was an award for the best camera reviewer, I would vote for you! I’ve heard and read your reviews for years, always detailed and fair and very interesting and informative. How do you keep it up?
I'm going a bit mad with the number of them at the moment, but I keep going for you all!
Gordon Laing I’m a psychiatric nurse, let me know if you need anything!
Another top notch review!
Thanks!
This is my dream camera.
Amazing review!! Brighton rules!!
Best review hands down
Thanks!
Excellent job!
Thankyou!
Thanks for another excellent review. I have been reading reviews and watching videos for the past months trying to decide which camera kit to upgrade to (moving from a lowly but beloved and well used Fz300) One finds lots of comparative sites with specs and features but little direct comparisons in terms of image quality. How would the XT4 and S5 and the R6 compare for photography? As an example, when zooming in your images for the S5 appeared to show poor resolution, but Omar Gonzales and others showed excellent image resolution from the XT4. Potato Jet praised the S5 sharpness for video but mentions nothing re stills. From what I understand in theory the S5 being full frame should generate better images and improved ISO performance in darker conditions. Since reviews suggest XT4 JPGs come out better (maybe the XTRANS sensor?) does it mean lenses available to the S5 cannot compete, or is it just the kit lens? Does it mean the S5 images require a lot more post processing? I would wish to avoid that, since my present workflow with FZ300 involves using AEB in order to obtain the colour rendition I seek. I am not comparing the sharpness of the FZ300 very flexible lens with the interchangeable options for obvious reasons. Thanks for any insights.
The hard part is that the Panasonic S1 was just on sale for the same price of this camera for the body. I guess the argument would be is do you prefer a smaller size and the some of the differences between the 2. Great reviews as always.
Panasonic should make a full frame range finder style camera like their GX Micro 4/3 series or like the Sony A7c
The gx9 was awful
As always, an informative and thoroughly enjoyable clip. Did I get enough information to make an informed decision on this camera? Absolutely. I got curious about the high-megapixel image options on the S5 - and how did the 48megapixel images compare to the standard and 96? You said several times that you didn't feel you were getting "96 megapixels worth", so maybe the 48 is an acceptable.. stretch? I'm sure that if I bought an S5, I'd find it to be an enjoyable and quite capable camera. That said, in Australia, with the lens you had on it, the new Fujifilm X-S10 plus 16-90 mm lens is less than 2/3 the price of the S5. I know there's a difference in sensor size between the two, but that's a big gap.
Thank you for the review. I upgraded to this after 8 years of the Sony NEX5n. The ergonomics and menu and tools are so much better, something Sony still doesn't do right.
To be fair, the NEX 5n is a very old camera now! Nice upgrade though!
Best review of the S5 - a seriously underappreciated camera.
I own this and the Nikon z5 and while they check the same boxes as a simple photo taking tool, the S5 produces noticeably cleaner photos at comparable ISO values and I personally find Panasonic's metering to be second to none. Also, the dfd autofocus is blazing fast and accurate in good lighting and slower but still accurate in lower light.
I bought the S5 almost entirely to use the 24-105 f4 OIS Macro - a lens that has basically no rival on any system. I intend to snag a few of their compact f1.8 primes.
Don't forget the Sigma L mount lenses too, they're great!
@@cameralabs Indeed! The I series of contemporary prime lenses seem like a blast! And to be fair, I adore the Nikon Z5. My Z5 is basically permanently glued to an adapter and I just swap on any number of vintage lenses.
Thanks for this review. Owner of both S1 and S1R I find them too big to carry around on vacation. This S5 seems to answer this point but I see less buttons and I’m wondering until what level it is customisable as the S1(s) are so powerful in this aspect.
And the EVF, do you think it is good enough to use Leica M lenses and focus precisely?
Thanks again
Hi Gordon. Your reviews are so good. I hope to see a breakdown between photo and video on all cameras.. or at the start of the video “skip to xyz if you want to know the photo review or video review.” You know what I mean.
Something super important to me is weather sealing and weight.. handling so thanks for being super clear
Rly nice camera and review
Excellent !
Thanks!
As often is the case, I go straight to Cameralabs to get an overview of a new camera. Thanks for doing a photography centric review (although you did stray off into video specs briefly). As you note, the low FPS with mech' shutter is a bit disappointing, as the 4k/6k photo isn't always an alternative due to using electronic shutter and the rolling effect as shown. I'd like to have seen a locking button on the mode dial, surely a design that could have been lifted from the G9. In fact, this seems to be a full frame G9 in many ways... I see from one of Lumix' own launch vids, with Adam Pretty, that a battery grip is also available, which will be handy (no pun intended).
i am just in the process of purchasing the lumix S5 and i totally agree with the statement that in many ways it's a full frame version of the G9, so for sure I am definitely going to enjoy this full frame S5 ! zen billings
Good review about lumix S5 👍
Thanks!
Very helpful review, thanks. I’m feeling this one will be the one that gets me to leave Canon. I’m a still shooter, and the high res mode along with the lack of an anti-aliasing filter, and a variety of unique special effect features is very appealing. Craig
Nice to have the still review separate, the Nikon Z6 with the 24-70 f4 is a similar kit price with the 20-60, But Seems? that Panasonic are throwing in a 45mm F2.8 Sigma free at the moment, which makes it a bit of a bargain.
This is what the S1 should have been when it was released.
it will be up to par with updates within a few months
권영준 Yep. Panasonic owners get fab firmware support. Even my G9 got a 10bit video upgrade last year 😀
The S1 is superior to this in most ways, so are you saying it should have been not as good but a little cheaper?
I currently focus on documentary films (on a very lean starting budget; all out of pocket) and my initial canera is the old Panasonic UX-180.... . I am looking at the S5 because the color science is similar, but it can push me closer towards the future..... from 8 bit and beyond. Plus it is a package that I can take on the motorcycle as well as hike with and has the weather resistance that the UX-180 does not have..... for out of the box, I can match the UX-180 with Cin-D mode, or switch to V-Log between primary and B camera..... that is my thinking anyway.
this video has alot of details others left out, thanks
96 MP mode is actually usable handheld in sufficient light and with Sigma 24-70, the difference in resolution (and Noise performance) is day and night.
Thanks for the review.
Z5, S5 seems to be a lot of "camera (features)" for just entry-level FF cameras.
This addition to the L-mount family is more than welcome.
Pretty sure Canon will level-up the game with the next EOS RP.
But no more gear wars, let's just enjoy photography.
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Was wondering what the alliance will bring us in the future:
1) @Panasonic / #Panasonic #Lumix:
1.1. Lenses : more L lens to come
1.2. Cameras:
1.2.a : APSC => won't go there because of their G-Line.
1.2.b : FF :
1.2.b.1 : S5 (Entry-level - Hybrid Stills + Videos)
1.2.b.2 : S1 / S1R (Pro Photgraphers)
1.2.b.3 : S1H (for videomakers / filmmakers)
2) @Leica / #Leica:
2.1. Lenses : L & TL lenses
2.2. Cameras:
2.2.a : APSC : CL2, TL
2.2.b : FF :
2.2.b.1 : Will Leica RE-badge the S5 to offer a mini SL2? (Of course with the "price to pay" for the red dot)
2.2.b.2 : SL2
2.2.b.3 : ---
3) @Sigma / #Sigma:
3.1. Lenses
3.2. Cameras:
3.2.a : APSC / APSH : A replacement to the SD Quattro / SD QuattroH with L-mount, Foveon or Bayer Sensor?
3.2.b : FF :
3.2.b.1 : An affordable entry level like S5?
3.2.b.2 : A pro camera (mirrorless) to replace the SD1 / SD1 Merill with L-mount, Foveon or Bayer Sensor?
3.2.b.3 : Sigma FP : L-mount and Bayer sensor.
Let's wait and see.
:)
Nice review, just want to ask if there's also an option like in Sony full frame the super 35 mode or apsc mode in photography.
I'm so happy I found your review! I was thinking about dropping a pre order on this but, having seen other reviews, was scared that the AF was still bad. I now realize they probably didn't have it set to face and eye detection, which is a shame. Does the camera come with exposure and focus bracketing? Can't really find info on that.
Yes I think so, it has a lot of photographic features, plus you can use the 6k photo mode for focus stacking.
Hey Gordon at the 7:20 minute mark. You mentioned you recorded 2 hours of 4k. Was it 8 bit or 10 bit?
Thanks Gordon, like the split between stills and video reviews. Nothing against Panasonic, have actually owned a couple of their Micro 4/3 rds a couple of years back but as mainly a stills user both this camera and the recently upgraded Sony A7s III plus Canon and Nikons recent launches are all a bit "samie", is there space for all this very sophisticated and very expensive kit in the market ? Yes I'm an old chap but to me I suspect that all these "feature packed" cameras are technical overkill to the people who could afford to buy them. Young people with their ever twitching digits, used to doing everything on their mobile phones and absolute whizz kids with video game controllers would be perfectly at home with this level of complexity but few of them would probably be bothered to use one and even fewer could afford to buy the body let alone a lens.
How would the L-mount 20-60 on the s5 compare to the MFT 10-25 f1.7 on a GH5? Do you reckon they'd be pretty close? On the one hand we have a kit on FF but on the other we have a very premium lens on a smaller sensor. I ask because the 10-25 itself is already very close in price to the s5. I'm wondering if it might make sense to forgo the 10-25 altogether and make the jump to the s5 with kit instead
Great review Gordon! This camera is truly fantastic!! If I ever can financially upgrade to Full Frame, I think this camera will be my first option. It's just got almost everything I look for in a camera!
I was wandering, does this camera adopt the option for linear manual focusing? As someone who usually manually focuses, this will be super helpful, especially with this kit lens that also looks impressive.
Thanks! Although I'm not 100% sure on the linear MF as my test sample has now been returned.
@@cameralabs Not a problem, thank you anyway! And again, fantastic review as always!
I'm a GH5s user. Can you jam sync timecode to the S5 like I can with the GH5s? I prefer to sync multiple camera and audio sources using timecode.
that close up shot to the EVF was brilliant! wow!
Thanks!
Came to say the same thing. Such a neat shot!
@@GordLamb thanks!
Thinking of trading in my GX8 and a few lenses to get this body. Would this be a good option to use with a Zeiss 35mm ZM (M-Mount) lens with adapter? I'm not interested in the kit lens. I can then use the S5 alongside my G9 with telephoto micro four thirds lenses.
As usual, a very good review and high quality production. It's not a stellar stills camera but the high resolution option and promise of 5.9K and anamorphic support make the S5 a compelling hybrid option at full frame. Thanks, Gordon!
You're welcome!
And which camera you consider making stellar stills? Sony a7RII -III? Only these seem to outperform
what was your shutter speed on the 12:44 mark? I found i had to increase to over 1000 with the 20mm-60mm 3.5 lens that came with the camera. I'm still yet to shoot some sports and slightly different to my Canon. Also the guy on the bike what shutter speed was it roughly? thanks
Hello, does it have a crop mode in photography like the Sony does to have further zoom with the lens?
Hey Gordon, I am a big fan of Panasonic overall, build quality, image quality, Menu system. but the Nikon Z5 looks really good for the price and what you get. Any chance you will be doing a review soon of the Nikon Z5? You always have the best, or most liked by me, reviews. Keep up the great work
Sadly not, Nikon doesn't send me cameras to test, not sure why.
Hey Gordon, thanks for a detailed review as always. I was wondering, is there any way for eye af to be assigned on a function button? I understand you can do this with the entire af module. It's just more convenient not having to go through all options.
Not sure, sorry!
I use a Panasonic GX8, which I really enjoy. It doesn't look like Panasonic is going to update this camera, however. If we equip the S5 with a Sigma 45mm 2.4 lens, the smallest affordable normal lens I have found so far, the S5 - lens combination is still a third heavier than the GX8 with the PL25mm 1.4. I am not sure I want to take this leap. The issue of expense is also relevant for a Canadian. Canadian Panasonic prices are about a third higher than American dollar ones. The sacrifices of abandoning the GX8 for the S5 are therefore considerable, not withstanding the advantage of full frame bodies over M4/3rds ones. That is a whole topic in itself. No one has turned their noses up at my 20mp M4/3rds images yet.
Some people seem to think the S1 is redundant. As a working cameraman and filmmaker the seemingly small advantages the S1 has are a big deal in the field, locking the controls for stock photography so I don't take 100 under/ over exposed shots by accident is fantastic and the full sized HDMI is a must for me. But Panasonic need to upgrade its already stellar video options and I'd argue include the vlog for free in order for it to maintain its status as a flagship.
Now, if only Panasonic decided to implement a *reliable* AF system...
This is a big step up.
With Panasonic lenses it really is pretty reliable for video (stills it's great). Not with sigma lenses though...
Hi Gordon. Can you save different custom video modes. I would like to have different settings for different modes much like the EOS R allows 3 custom plus M/TV/AV/P so really R has 7 video modes.
I have a question: Does the Tokina 11-20mm F2.8 Lens work with the Lumix S5 ? I use it with the GH5 with the Viltrox EF-M2 Speed Booster.
I have no idea, sorry
The S5 does appear to be the best entry point into FF and Lumix. This is a pretty small camera not much bigger then my g9.
This is a great addition to the range, but I prefer the ergonomics and size of the S1. I don't think this camera is a good match for the existing lenses - the pro lenses are big and heavy, and would be unbalanced on a smaller body. I don't think Panasonic claimed the S1 had dual native iso, but it clearly does. The point at which the changeover occurs depends on the picture mode. In most instances it is at ISO 640. I suspect this camera will be the same. The S1 always felt to me like the video functions had been deliberately crippled compared to the GH5, even though the camera was promoted for video use. Many software features were removed (such as shutter angle, data rates etc). It was not initially clear why these features were missing, until the S1H was announced. This camera seems to be missing the same features, but is described as full frame GH5. I am still hoping Panasonic can add those missing features via firmware update (I am 100% certain that many of the missing features could be implemented on the S1 and probably the S5 too). I suspect the lack of significant changes to the autofocus system will ultimately be the cameras Achilles heel (even though it's actually very good in most circumstances - except video).
Love this cam! I use it for 70% video, 30% photo. Lovely size and results.
very nice
I don’t know if this would be better than the gh5s. It’s got full vlog and it’s full frame. That’s great. But gh5s is micro four thirds so I wouldn’t have to buy new lenses and adapters. So I’d probably be saving more money which is nice. I’d say having both would be best but I can’t do that.
Panasonic is so close. The DFD is still not a great focus engine. No one selling me on that. But looks the best it has been ever. Even better than the GH5 even. So the vlogger's dream camera and this one may be the DFD revolution. I so much want to love Panasonic. So much right, spoiled by that poor choice of DFD. They go Phase Detect, I will go full Panasonic happily. Nice to see your review Gordon.
I like the smaller size/weight however you really need to compare size/weight with comparable lenses.
not sure if you can answer, but would it be better in picture quality than the XT4?
Greetings, how does the image compare to the S1H?
I have to wonder just how many of the S series camera lenses and camera's Panasonic expect to sell given that so much of the attention has switched back to Canon, Sony and to a lesser degree Nikon. Given the rapid decline in ' traditional' camera's I fear the system won't have enough time to be really established before the ROI fails. Great review Gordon.
Mike Whiles while I love Panasonic’s stuff overall, I think they are in trouble now that both Canon and Sony have really great focus tracking in FF mirrorless cameras.
I'm old enough to remember when people were saying that about Sony.... obviously once the REAL traditional camera makers got into the game, they didn’t stand a chance of competing. (And back in 1950 people were saying the same about Canon and Nikon...)
@@jlwilliams I think one thing Sony did well is their strategy of opening the e-mount for others to make E mount lenses for Sony cameras. That strategy made Sony cameras having the widest selection of both Sony and third party e-mount native lenses. Canon RF and Nikon Z are somewhat slow in that regard. RF and Z have very expensive catalog of their own lenses. It took a few years as we now start to see third party RF and Z lenses.
im an s1r user but i have to admit i havent enjoyed playing with the s5 in the store. i dont do video but for stills it didnt feel like a refined experience. the shutter seemed clunky and it shoots slow. i really wanted to run a single system but as second body this isnt as nice to use as a second body from a smaller system like fuji or olympus. think im stuck with dual systems for now.
17:12 I went to image comparison long ago and started looking for best res / image Q cameras. And I was fooled by the sharpness of the X-A5 and the X-T100, so I bought them both used. The cameras are too sharp in camera and vegetation looks like worms when you zoom in close. I thought the soft images of the Nikons on image comparison was the proof that the Nikons was not as good as the fujis. Later I got a Nikon D5000 very cheap used and that changed it all. Only 12 mp and very beautiful images and best of all, no worms when I zoom in. I could actually see WHAT I was looking at at though the image was softer than the fujis. People seam not to have noticed that this is a problem for many Fuji cameras. The X-T1 is beautiful though. What you realise when you pixelpeep is not at all the same as you are percieving when you see the whole picture. I dont want the worms of the X-A5 and I dont want the mushyness of the mobile phones or the bridgecameras. Just give me the clarity and beauty of the GX80. GX80 is only 16 mp. That is why it looks so good. Even the Canon 90D has problems due to too many pixels. I want to see someone make huge prints from the Sony A7sIII to see what its like. Why bother with the details when the image just looks gorgeous? Go out and sit in the park and look at the trees, the leaves. Do you see a lot of detail? Is it sharp enough for you what your own eyes can see or would you rather see it on a high def TV screen? Panasonic is going to do very well from now on.
How do you know how much time is left on the sd card when recording video? there is no counter ? on image mode it tells me how many shot i have left. On video i cannot see time remaining? Only a 30 min countdown every time i press record.
Thanks Gordon for great review.
Can you confirm if continuous shooting is 7 shots per second on single AF? And is it 5 shots on continuous AF?
Looking at the sports mode here.
Also on video mode how do you display time remaining on SD card?
Sorry, it's been a while since I tested this camera, so my old brain can't remember the details, but it'll all be in the manual.