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Came here for the concentrated info review. Was not disappointed. Again Gordon you convince me to buy another camera. The first being the Olympus EM-5 Mark III. See you next time.
Hi Gordon, Appreciate you going thru various modes of image stabilisation. I'm watching this on 1080p monitor and I must say that contrary to your comments at 15:25 it seems that IBIS was the most pleasing option, EIS on its own was jittery, and the combo of IBIS+EIS+Boost seemed to get the camera working so hard it took a dive in Auto Focus (although it could have been caused by light change). I'm looking forward to your direct comparison of S5 vs GH5S for video in the near future ;) Unlike the S1, this looks more like the camera that paves the path to L-mount alliance land.
I am about to order the S5 with 20-60 lens. I owned a GH5 with Leica 12-60, got great results but was tempted away to Canon’s 90D because of the auto focus. For me that was a big mistake, I soon realised that any auto focus system is imperfect, but the biggest issue is the relative lower video quality. I have tried everything but I am not happy with 90D videos. I wish I had stayed with Panasonic. Thankfully the S5 seems like a great camera for me at a reasonable price
Excellent review as always Gordon. Glad your review showed how improves the AF is. It's not perfect but very usable. I feel there is too much of over bashing of Panasonic on TH-cam over its AF without providing a real and detailed review of the AF in the same video . Thanks for providing realistic and honest reviews to your audience,it is truly appreciated.
Thank you for these comprehensive reviews, Gordon. I currently use the GH5, but having watched your reviews of GH5 II and S5, I've decided to get the S5 as an upgrade to the GH5. Again, thank your for taking the time to make these reviews. I'll be sure to donate for that coffee :)
Wow, this beats GH5 in full frame mode, over and above Canon R5 that overheats so much yet overly priced. S5 is good to carry for travelling, filming shows, concerts, excursion trips withgout worrying about outside temperature and overheating. I'm looking forward to upgrade from GH5 to S5.
MyOwnSoul You do know you could just lock the subject in focus and it will not hunt or lose focus. It only happens when you turn on auto focus you get hunting and pulsating effect.
I think you asked the perfect question - ‘is autofocus working sufficiently well for you to use confidently...?’. For many, I’m sure autofocus is the number one priority superseding every other feature. I would love to see this camera succeed but I’m afraid that to do so, it needs to continuously ‘focus’ on developing this one area.
If you check walking vlog part carefully, you will see a lot of micro dfd adjustments in the corner especially those spot highlights between tree branchs. It reminds viewers S5's unmistakable Panasonic bloodline
Now that the S5ii is out, the S5 could be an amazing bargain for aspiring film makers, while also still be very appealing for photo and hybrid shooters. I've seen used S5 on Ebay for around 1k, which for the feature set is absolutely unbeatable!
Aye, got mine (1 year old, 1200 shots) for just 850€ which is just a killer-deal. I don't need PDAF for my videos, also inferior battery life, more weight and a fan are big no-gos for me. Mk1 for the win!
Awesome detailed reviews (both parts) 👍. I know all the TH-cam cool kids only swear by Sony; but I think Panasonic package offers the best value and quality at this price point. Now they need to build up the lenses for this system. I haven't seen L-mount long zooms yet...
I’m actually sold on this camera since they will get the ProRes Raw update and I will not be using this camera to vlog. It will be primarily used to shoot film and excited to see how my work will come out. Thank you for the review and tests.
Thanks for the review Gordon! What do you think about 150Mbps LongGop on S5 vs All-i 400Mbps on the GH-5? Is LongGop much harder to edit? Does it gives significantly worse quality on the fast moving scenes?
I really enjoy your videos, they are always detailed and to the point. But if you had to recommend a camera to go with for the year 2023, what would it be? I would be using it for the following purpose... 1. Talking head videos in studio and outdoors... 2. Live streaming... 3. Photography (mostly birds and a little bit of wildlife)... Once again appreciate your efforts...
Kipon & Sigma have a whole series of affordable L mount lens, you don’t have to buy native, you could also buy EF or F mount adapters for affordable Canon and Nikon glass.
Aaron Harper On this note: if they bring a GH6 the Leica 10-25 f1.7 will sell like hot cake. Without GH6 I will not buy this lens - or any other MFT lense.
Great stuff Gordon. I'm almost sold on one I feel. I liked the IBIS only vlog walk footage. It seems more gimbleish to me. Now what to do with all my M4/3 gear and lenses?
Been following these new Lumix full frame cameras as a M43 G80 and G9 user with much interest but sadly these aren't good enough for wildlife shooters - yet! With regards to AF I have always found Panasonic autofocus to be annoyingly unreliable but with that said its hilariously easy to just use manual focus for vlogging which is 100% reliable and much more accurate than Sony or Canon AF which can often fail okay not as often as Panasonic but when it does it fails spectacularly!!
Thank you Gordon! Excellent as always! A very interesting camera. I keep my hopes up with the launch of the GH6, but I have doubts whether Panasonic will be interested in maintaining the GH line. If Panasonic was able to manufacture a FF Camera in such a small body and with great features, I imagine what they could do with a m43, a system that allows compact lenses and excellent stabilization.
Definitely can see the difference between 4K and 1080p Even on my smartphone. It's more noticeable on the PC or tablet, but it's there. It's sharper, finer contrast and feels less jaggy and less exhausting for the eye.
The trees looked a little drunk with Boost IS. The autofocus lost your face a few times in the shadow areas more than the bright areas. In my opinion, the autofocus is fine for for vlogging; for narrative or general video production, (I believe) you can override the autofocus with the focus ring on the lens. However, it is a nice feature to just focus on the framing, pan/tilt, gimbal, shoulder rig, etc and not have an AC. Impressive how clean the image looks at 25,000 ISO; dual native ISO at 640 & 4000? It has the same sensor as the S1H? So same 14+ dynamic range? What is the dynamic range of the S1? S1 vs S5 "for video" would be a helpful video. Thanks Gordon!
Gordon: Good thorough job here. Still feels like Panasonic is playing catch-up on stabilization and autofocus but there is zero doubt they are leading the pack in delivering value for money in a compelling, feature-packed camera.
Hi Gordon! Great video :) I am just about to get S5 for myself :) the autofocus is a bit scary but will have a try as I love Panasonic’s colour science! are you actually from Brighton? Can see views taken from Brighton Pier (I’m local :))
I preordered the S5. Having shot a feature film with the GH5, I think the S5 will be a nice move up. Thanks for this video. I also have subscribed to your channel.
I'm using a G9 now for 50/50 travel photos/film. Like most people in this camp, I'm questioning whether I should step up to FF to future proof myself before sinking even more cash in to µ43. I was actually on the verge of adding both the 10-25 and the 50-200 to my arsenal when the pandemic hit and I decided to put it off till I could travel again. Now that the S5 has been announced, for not much more i could get both a FF body and a lens in the same focal range as the 10-25 lens alone. Would the IQ be just as good? one's a (very highly regarded) pro lens, and the other a kit with not much in the way of samples and reviews at the moment. But can the sensor IQ make up for this? If so, I am essentially getting the S5 body for 500 bucks (2300 for the S5 with kit minus 1800 for the 10-25).
You will get better dynamic range with the S5 and you can add the Sigma DG DN OS 100-400mm, it will be sharper, less expensive and with less noise for the same ISO compared to the 50-200mm on your G9. But the G9 stabilization is better, the 10-25mm is a very good lens (but heavy), better than 20-60mm S. The 50-200mm is only 650gr compared to the 1130gr of the 100-400mm DG DN. It is a tough choice ...
Thank you for your videos Gordon. They are great! Could you make a Panasonic S5 vs Fuji x-t4 video please? I would love to see these two new cameras side by side, especially under low light conditions for video. Thanks and keep it up!
Gordon, thanks for the video. I never used auto ISO for video do you really shoot with that all the time? Thanks! I would love for you to walk through your menu preferrences when setting up the S5.
@@cameralabs Thank you. How can I edit 10 bit using Windows 10? Cyberlink PD can not handle 10 bit video clips. Can I just upgrade to intel 9 processor to edit 10 bit clips?
Very different cameras... the A7C is one of the most compact full frame cameras, but it's lacking a lot of the pro features of the S5. The main advantage of the A7C is the autofocus and size... if those points are not as important to you, the S5 is the better (and much more feature packed) deal.
Too bad no “ALL-I” internal. Too bad no full HDMI port. Focus improvements over GH5 are nice. LOVE the discrete ISO/WB/EC buttons, just like the GH5. Bummer about the low rez EVF. Nice that it’s still energy efficient like the GH5. Anybody know if the RAW output can be used with SHOGUN INFERNO?
Yeah awesome little camera, just got one. Didn't have the monies for s1h, this was next best option. Or the a7siii. Had to be small enough for hiking, but same color science as s1h. Shame the lenses are so expensive. Still super pleased with it.
I would love a real world dynamic range test. Perhaps someone standing on the beach, with sun behind them at sunset. I'd love to see how much of the colorful sunset can be captured, as well as skin tones on the person. Is Ben available as a sunset model? Thanks!
IBIS + EIS combo worked the best for you when walking... I think because you tend to have a little hand tremor (too much coffee perhaps?! 😉)... Thanks again Gordon!
Panasonic S series are top quality and loaded with tech (except the poor focus) beyond Sony's current lines including the ridiculously priced and cheaply made, A7C...an A7C price tag of $1.3K (USA) would seem reasonable, but at the current rumored $2.4K--YGBSM!
Sometimes there's more than double the res difference between 1080 and 4k on some cameras. i can't remember off the top of my head for the S5, but I'd have mentioned or shown any differences in this video,
Great review, thank you. I'm looking at ALL the possible reviews, because I would like to buy this camera so much, but I heard the autofocus is not top notch, compared to other major names. My alternative is the Canon r6, which has a GODLY autofocus ahah
@@cameralabs I would say the focus when your face is in the same spot in the same distance is great, but when it comes to CATCHING and searching you around the viewfinder, it has quite some problems.
First of all thanks for the complete content. I bet there’s been a lot of work behind. I think it will be a hit for Panasonic with regard to their usual sales numbers. It will help getting more people into the system. There was a lot of expectations about sub 1000 $ cameras but neither Panasonic or Sony are willing to lower the bar. Instead Panasonic is providing great value for money by adding many pro video features. I am a bit concerned that pure photography is losing ground and interest. And I will have to pay extra for video features I don’t really need. How much would a photographer’s S5 would have been ? Not complaining by any means. 2020 is a hell of a year for mirrorless
why would i need an external monitor recorder that starts from ISO 640? what the point from shooting video internally? ISO 640 for recording on monitor gives you worse dynamic range right away.
I don't understand why Panasonic didn't allow FF 4K60p. That will still differentiate it from the R5, R6 & Sony A7Siii. Then there's the AF which still lags the previously mentioned cameras.
How do you keep custom settings different for video from photography mode? For example cinelike d2 on movie mode and standard on picture mode for photography? I hear you have to manually change and cannot choose between the two unless saved as custom.
In the menu go to cog (third from top on left), then image quality (top centre), and the bottom of the first page is Creative Video Combined Set. This allows you to separate photography and video preferences for F/SS/ISO/Exposure Comp, White Balance, Photo Style, Metering Mode, and AF Mode.
I just shot a feature film on the S5. The image is spectacular, actual poetry. I was shooting GH4's and 5's before I came across this monster. Don't for get, you are not just getting 422 10 bit, you are getting that at "full Frame." M4/3 just does not compare. Also, I shot into the Ninja V which gave me 5.9k RAW, 422, 12 bit, full frame. I got an open box deal for 1,300 and am totally in awe of the image quality. No better deal out there for narrative filmmakers.
What's the latest plague of manufacturers obsessed with the number 5? R5 Z5 S5 and Sony rumored A5? I'd say 10bit 422 uncropped 4k at least up to 30p is standard for hybrid camera in late 2020.
If the dancers are in a show and you're in the audience, it should be fine, but if you're on stage and closer to them, you'll prefer the continuous AF of Sony and Canon.
If somebody would like to jump in and tell us why we should get this camera instead of a X-T4? Personally I really don't see why but hey, I might be missing something?
Thank You for the great review Gordon. Beautiful camera that unfortunately ignores the main reason for many to switch to mirror less- superior auto focus. It is hard to see Panasonic surviving if they don't make cameras with mainstream appeal-pity.
Oh please. Panasonic does not care about youtube whiners, either you learn how to shoot in manuel focus or go get a cheap overpriced Sony, Canon or the overheating Fuji. And Panasonic will be in business a very long time. It's funny that no one complains about the micro 4 thirds Black Magic Design which has no auto focus but wanna complain about Panasonic, SMH.
WHY, WHY, WHY didn't Pany include phase-detect?! Even a $300 penalty ($2,300 retail) would have pulled over MANY customers! Stupid decisions killing a key performance option destroys all the other efforts on this product. DUMB!
Hi, Thanks for the video! I've also bought the same camera a few days ago and I'm super happy with it. I am using the same settings as yours (P-MODE), but I have a question: When I zoom in before recording, my preview get's laggy, but when I press the record-button, the lag stops and it's recording normal. It's a little bit frustrating, because when I am setting up my shot, the lag can be a distraction. What can the cause of that be? Thanks in advance!
@@cameralabs I think I found the solution, if I click on the +- button and I lower the number, the lag is gone. But I can see that you have a MM icon instead of +-. Is there any difference between the two?
Finally Full Frame with the size of G9 body! On third try... not a brick... we can travel lite now... since it's hybrid, the question is... will Panasonic cripple this one with the firmware, like with G9, so after 2 years and 3 FW updates we still have same photo profiles for taking pictures and old codecs for time-lapse processing, no HLG photo, HDR or HEVC support... "the photographers" camera! And... still don't have any single wide angle prime lenses for entire MFT system, 8,9 or 10mm, similar to 14mm and 20mm pancakes lenses... or even simple manual focus lens with no electronics for video, landscape photography and again, for time-lapses... for simple tripod use. Moving forward Panasonic, leaving behind all people with your old cameras, without any new codecs updates or new pictures profiles! This one will get you started at $2299 with a kit lens... and then, they will tell you, we will have 5-in-1 $2800 new lens, two years later... like with G9... Great Job, Gordon! Watched both parts of this most detailed review! You put a lot of effort in both parts... I hope they let you keep this camera...
@@evenaicantfigurethisout it's an option.... but I meant the native mft lenses from Panasonic. Last decade they are making best video featured cameras, but haven't produce a single manual focus cine lens for video, a simple inexpensive set of glass for videomakers... Of course, we can adopt many lenses, including Laowa(which produces horrible color fringing), but that voids all features for lens geometry correction and artifacts in camera bodies, which corrects most issues with supported lenses in firmware. Panasonic could of done that many years ago, but they decided to cripple entire MFT system... for years... since GH1-2... "funny" thing is, last year they insulted entire MFT owners community, who invested if their glass, with 5-in-1 10-25mm lens, setting the price of $1800(US) while selling most bodies around $700-$800! We already have 12, 14, 15, 20 and 25mm... we only need 9 or 10mm ultra wide small pancake primes for around $199... I have 3 MFT bodies and also own 2 hybrid cameras(FZ150 and FZ300) with 25-in-1 Leica lenses, 25-648mm f2.8, one of the best glass I have for video(yes, constant f2.8 recording un-cropped 4K with zero distortions), Today FZ300 still sells for $399, the entire camera!... M A R K E T I N G!!! Speaking of which, the S5, same G9 body($904 shipped from B&H last year) with FF sensor today costs $1899 plus tax... question for everybody...would you pay an extra $1000 for full frame sensor "to move forward"?
@@cameralabs You say it very quickly lol. I think this is a perfect camera for night footage. Much more complete than BlackMagic Pocket 4K. One needs a good auto-focus only when one does weddings etc, otherwise which serious videographer would trust continues auto-focus.
The focus is realllly slow. That would drive me nuts. I can focus faster manually. While the camera doesn’t overheat, it’s not being asked to do very much either, so that’s not surprising. APS-C crop for 4K 50/60? Meh. Over exposed in the woods. Highlights blown out, and shadows blocky. Electronic stab very jerky.
Also, for the vlog, it's accurate for his skin go have a slight green tint, since he's in the actual forest so most light hitting him has bounced off of the leaves.
Geezus, man, your speed of talking is way too fast. Slowing it down to .75 speed ('settings') sounds perfect. Most product review people just rattle facts at near lightning speed. Please slow down. Nice review, however.
May I know why should a pure videographer select a stiils camera rather than a dedicated camcorder for his work?! Ultra HD capable camcorders from different brands can be bought little cheaper than this camera you are talking about. Those will offer unlimited recording time, great zoom range and excellent video quality. So, why are still cameras so much focused on videos these days?! If I ever shoot pro-level video; I'll definitely pickup a camcorder for that job. That may be a Panasonic as well.
Most dedicated camcorders have v small sensors, non-removable lenses and far fewer pro features. Models like the S5 are not stills cameras, they're hybrid cameras, designed for both.
@@quazisanjeed6395 The same versatility and image quality in a dedicated video camera costs much more. The Sony FX9 is more than £11k, the Panasonic S5 with with 20-60 lens has a street price of around £1600. Another £1000 will buy a good mic, cage and Atomos Ninja.
@@quazisanjeed6395 Professional equipment is any gear that makes money for the user. A content creator, wedding videographer and broadcast filmmaker have different requirements. For some a small sensor and fixed zoom lens would be adequate, for others not so. If you want the highest visual quality and industry build standards (interchangeable lenses, high data rates, solid codecs, ports, electronic or manual focusing devices), expect to pay x5/10 of the enthusiast equivalent. Mirrorless cameras can achieve most of those criteria, which is why they are increasingly popular for revenue earning jobs.
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Another great review, Gordon, thumbs up!
S5 have 4k live cropping function?
I like the new format of "for photography" and "for video."
Thanks, I may not do it for every camera
Panasonic retaining their value per dollar crown. Nice to see the contrast detect, while obviously still not perfect, is considerably improved.
Came here for the concentrated info review. Was not disappointed. Again Gordon you convince me to buy another camera. The first being the Olympus EM-5 Mark III. See you next time.
Hi Gordon, Appreciate you going thru various modes of image stabilisation. I'm watching this on 1080p monitor and I must say that contrary to your comments at 15:25 it seems that IBIS was the most pleasing option, EIS on its own was jittery, and the combo of IBIS+EIS+Boost seemed to get the camera working so hard it took a dive in Auto Focus (although it could have been caused by light change).
I'm looking forward to your direct comparison of S5 vs GH5S for video in the near future ;) Unlike the S1, this looks more like the camera that paves the path to L-mount alliance land.
I am about to order the S5 with 20-60 lens. I owned a GH5 with Leica 12-60, got great results but was tempted away to Canon’s 90D because of the auto focus. For me that was a big mistake, I soon realised that any auto focus system is imperfect, but the biggest issue is the relative lower video quality. I have tried everything but I am not happy with 90D videos. I wish I had stayed with Panasonic. Thankfully the S5 seems like a great camera for me at a reasonable price
Excellent review as always Gordon. Glad your review showed how improves the AF is. It's not perfect but very usable. I feel there is too much of over bashing of Panasonic on TH-cam over its AF without providing a real and detailed review of the AF in the same video . Thanks for providing realistic and honest reviews to your audience,it is truly appreciated.
You're welcome!
Thank you for these comprehensive reviews, Gordon.
I currently use the GH5, but having watched your reviews of GH5 II and S5, I've decided to get the S5 as an upgrade to the GH5. Again, thank your for taking the time to make these reviews. I'll be sure to donate for that coffee :)
Wow, this beats GH5 in full frame mode, over and above Canon R5 that overheats so much yet overly priced. S5 is good to carry for travelling, filming shows, concerts, excursion trips withgout worrying about outside temperature and overheating. I'm looking forward to upgrade from GH5 to S5.
not as good as sony and canon AF tho. that's the only weakness. though if movement isn't too, s5 seem pretty usable.
MyOwnSoul You do know you could just lock the subject in focus and it will not hunt or lose focus. It only happens when you turn on auto focus you get hunting and pulsating effect.
The auto focus isn’t bad you can adjust the speed and the movement of it in the settings
I think you asked the perfect question - ‘is autofocus working sufficiently well for you to use confidently...?’. For many, I’m sure autofocus is the number one priority superseding every other feature. I would love to see this camera succeed but I’m afraid that to do so, it needs to continuously ‘focus’ on developing this one area.
If you check walking vlog part carefully, you will see a lot of micro dfd adjustments in the corner especially those spot highlights between tree branchs. It reminds viewers S5's unmistakable Panasonic bloodline
Now that the S5ii is out, the S5 could be an amazing bargain for aspiring film makers, while also still be very appealing for photo and hybrid shooters. I've seen used S5 on Ebay for around 1k, which for the feature set is absolutely unbeatable!
It's also a great price new
Aye, got mine (1 year old, 1200 shots) for just 850€ which is just a killer-deal. I don't need PDAF for my videos, also inferior battery life, more weight and a fan are big no-gos for me. Mk1 for the win!
Aaa, good video on the video specs of it. Definitely thinking I'm buying it. It'll be more than enough for me since I want to make music videos.
Awesome detailed reviews (both parts) 👍. I know all the TH-cam cool kids only swear by Sony; but I think Panasonic package offers the best value and quality at this price point. Now they need to build up the lenses for this system. I haven't seen L-mount long zooms yet...
Sigma will bring them - they already have a 100-400 in the L mount.
I’m actually sold on this camera since they will get the ProRes Raw update and I will not be using this camera to vlog. It will be primarily used to shoot film and excited to see how my work will come out. Thank you for the review and tests.
Thanks for the review Gordon!
What do you think about 150Mbps LongGop on S5 vs All-i 400Mbps on the GH-5?
Is LongGop much harder to edit? Does it gives significantly worse quality on the fast moving scenes?
I really enjoy your videos, they are always detailed and to the point. But if you had to recommend a camera to go with for the year 2023, what would it be? I would be using it for the following purpose...
1. Talking head videos in studio and outdoors...
2. Live streaming...
3. Photography (mostly birds and a little bit of wildlife)...
Once again appreciate your efforts...
How much are you spending, and do you have any lenses?
@@cameralabs i recently sold all my old gear, have no camera and no lens... Starting from scratch...
@@aniruddhadeshpandestudio2891 I can't help you if you don't provide a budget.
@@cameralabs oops, well looking to keep it below USD 2000...
@@aniruddhadeshpandestudio2891 including a lens or body alone?
Your content is really underrated, I don't get the dislikes on your videos.
Thanks! I don't understand either!
@@cameralabs I think they are dislike bots.
@@DeepteshLovesTECH why would someone put the effort into disliking me that much?!
Jumping from GH to S series is one expensive move due to lenses.
I better wait to see if GH6 or GH6s will ever show up first.
If you're one of the many who use Canon and Sigma lenses with Speedbooster on the GH5, you'll only need an adapter for the S5.
@@raksh9 I'm agree. The S5 body is cheaper than GH5 new body + new Metabones XL. I'm really tempted with S5. But still waiting for more review though.
Kipon & Sigma have a whole series of affordable L mount lens, you don’t have to buy native, you could also buy EF or F mount adapters for affordable Canon and Nikon glass.
Gh6 or bust for panny for me, I’ve invested in 11 lenses. No way I do anything else Panasonic if they don’t come out with a GH6 soon
Aaron Harper On this note: if they bring a GH6 the Leica 10-25 f1.7 will sell like hot cake. Without GH6 I will not buy this lens - or any other MFT lense.
Great stuff Gordon. I'm almost sold on one I feel. I liked the IBIS only vlog walk footage. It seems more gimbleish to me. Now what to do with all my M4/3 gear and lenses?
I’d keep them and rent them out. Can make a considerable amount of money back before you sell them if you want
Boost I.S. is designed to be a virtual tripod.
Yes, fantastic camera! I'm interested in what the future M7 will do to compare. I think I liked plain IBIS best. But I didn't look super closely.
Been following these new Lumix full frame cameras as a M43 G80 and G9 user with much interest but sadly these aren't good enough for wildlife shooters - yet!
With regards to AF I have always found Panasonic autofocus to be annoyingly unreliable but with that said its hilariously easy to just use manual focus for vlogging which is 100% reliable and much more accurate than Sony or Canon AF which can often fail okay not as often as Panasonic but when it does it fails spectacularly!!
Thank you Gordon! Excellent as always! A very interesting camera. I keep my hopes up with the launch of the GH6, but I have doubts whether Panasonic will be interested in maintaining the GH line. If Panasonic was able to manufacture a FF Camera in such a small body and with great features, I imagine what they could do with a m43, a system that allows compact lenses and excellent stabilization.
Any opinions on the new gh6?
@@felipecourtois7883 It seems to be a very good Video Camera and a good stills Camera. I own the new OM1 and it is AMAZING!!
@@TITAOSTEIN was it stills or video that locked you into the om1? Just curious
@@felipecourtois7883 both! The IQ and AF are very very good for video and stills.
Definitely can see the difference between 4K and 1080p Even on my smartphone. It's more noticeable on the PC or tablet, but it's there. It's sharper, finer contrast and feels less jaggy and less exhausting for the eye.
The trees looked a little drunk with Boost IS.
The autofocus lost your face a few times in the shadow areas more than the bright areas. In my opinion, the autofocus is fine for for vlogging; for narrative or general video production, (I believe) you can override the autofocus with the focus ring on the lens. However, it is a nice feature to just focus on the framing, pan/tilt, gimbal, shoulder rig, etc and not have an AC.
Impressive how clean the image looks at 25,000 ISO; dual native ISO at 640 & 4000?
It has the same sensor as the S1H? So same 14+ dynamic range? What is the dynamic range of the S1?
S1 vs S5 "for video" would be a helpful video.
Thanks Gordon!
Gordon: Good thorough job here. Still feels like Panasonic is playing catch-up on stabilization and autofocus but there is zero doubt they are leading the pack in delivering value for money in a compelling, feature-packed camera.
Hi Gordon! Great video :) I am just about to get S5 for myself :) the autofocus is a bit scary but will have a try as I love Panasonic’s colour science! are you actually from Brighton? Can see views taken from Brighton Pier (I’m local :))
Thanks Gordon you do a fantastic job on these reviews. This seems a fantastic value camera especially with the kit lens.
It's a nice combo!
I preordered the S5. Having shot a feature film with the GH5, I think the S5 will be a nice move up. Thanks for this video. I also have subscribed to your channel.
Thanks!
I would love to see your feature film if you don’t mind sharing it (or have permission)? Cheers
I'm using a G9 now for 50/50 travel photos/film. Like most people in this camp, I'm questioning whether I should step up to FF to future proof myself before sinking even more cash in to µ43.
I was actually on the verge of adding both the 10-25 and the 50-200 to my arsenal when the pandemic hit and I decided to put it off till I could travel again.
Now that the S5 has been announced, for not much more i could get both a FF body and a lens in the same focal range as the 10-25 lens alone. Would the IQ be just as good? one's a (very highly regarded) pro lens, and the other a kit with not much in the way of samples and reviews at the moment. But can the sensor IQ make up for this? If so, I am essentially getting the S5 body for 500 bucks (2300 for the S5 with kit minus 1800 for the 10-25).
You will get better dynamic range with the S5 and you can add the Sigma DG DN OS 100-400mm, it will be sharper, less expensive and with less noise for the same ISO compared to the 50-200mm on your G9.
But the G9 stabilization is better, the 10-25mm is a very good lens (but heavy), better than 20-60mm S. The 50-200mm is only 650gr compared to the 1130gr of the 100-400mm DG DN.
It is a tough choice ...
Thank you for your videos Gordon. They are great! Could you make a Panasonic S5 vs Fuji x-t4 video please? I would love to see these two new cameras side by side, especially under low light conditions for video. Thanks and keep it up!
Gordon, thanks for the video. I never used auto ISO for video do you really shoot with that all the time? Thanks! I would love for you to walk through your menu preferrences when setting up the S5.
Yes, I tend to lock my shutter and aperture when filming and just use auto ISO to balance the exposure.
Thanks for your review. Can you also Pull Focus on the S5 like the GH5? The Panasonic Micro 4/3 cameras all have it but not on the Lumix S1.
Awesome video thank you. You mentioned you have the a6400, which do you prefer/ like better between the two?
I prefer to film with the 6400 for its AF
@@cameralabs Thank you. I have the 6400 and was considering switching for the S5.
In full frame will S5 have 4K 60fps 8-bit resolution? I don't like APS-C 60fps.
No, in 4k 60p, it's only APSC on the S5. It can be 10 bit, but 4:2:0, not 4:2:2.
@@cameralabs Thank you. How can I edit 10 bit using Windows 10? Cyberlink PD can not handle 10 bit video clips. Can I just upgrade to intel 9 processor to edit 10 bit clips?
@@MarieLou3M you could try Premiere or Davinci Resolve, or just don't shoot 10 bit - I don't!
@@cameralabs Thank you, I don't shoot 10 bit on my GH5 but missing 4K 60fps on S5 is a downside.
@@MarieLou3M I'm not sure what you mean - the S5 does have 4k 60. Although as you know it's cropped. is that the issue for you?
I want the Panasonic gh5s and Panasonic S5 and then the Panasonic s1h later down the line. I am looking forward to the future Panasonic GH6
Excellent content!!
Should I go with Sony A7C or Lumix S5??
Very different cameras... the A7C is one of the most compact full frame cameras, but it's lacking a lot of the pro features of the S5. The main advantage of the A7C is the autofocus and size... if those points are not as important to you, the S5 is the better (and much more feature packed) deal.
I have to love your video, simply because it was filmed in Brighton! The review was great too ;)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the views!
I really don’t know why Fujifilm and
Panasonic is plagued with so many auto focus issues when the likes of Cannon and Sony does it with so much ease.
Too bad no “ALL-I” internal. Too bad no full HDMI port. Focus improvements over GH5 are nice. LOVE the discrete ISO/WB/EC buttons, just like the GH5. Bummer about the low rez EVF. Nice that it’s still energy efficient like the GH5. Anybody know if the RAW output can be used with SHOGUN INFERNO?
For vlogging the footage with only the electronic stabilization looked the best in terms of autofocus performance.
Thanks for the review Gordon.
Amazing camera. Thank you Gordon.
You're welcome!
I'm a full manual focus guy and I like this camera. Wish it came in at $1499
Yeah awesome little camera, just got one. Didn't have the monies for s1h, this was next best option. Or the a7siii. Had to be small enough for hiking, but same color science as s1h. Shame the lenses are so expensive. Still super pleased with it.
The Sigma L mount lenses are well-priced.
I would love a real world dynamic range test. Perhaps someone standing on the beach, with sun behind them at sunset. I'd love to see how much of the colorful sunset can be captured, as well as skin tones on the person. Is Ben available as a sunset model?
Thanks!
Potatojet has it. Recovers blown out highlights uncannily well
Great video! Off to check out the S5 for photography one now :)
Videoquality top Autofocus still a big flop. U cann see it while walking. No Chance vs Phase Detection.
Very helpful video! I’m looking for a good camera to film steam engines so these videos are very helpful
You're welcome!
When shooting external has crop?
Love this cam! I use it for 70% video, 30% photo. Lovely size and results.
IBIS + EIS combo worked the best for you when walking... I think because you tend to have a little hand tremor (too much coffee perhaps?! 😉)... Thanks again Gordon!
Panasonic S series are top quality and loaded with tech (except the poor focus) beyond Sony's current lines including the ridiculously priced and cheaply made, A7C...an A7C price tag of $1.3K (USA) would seem reasonable, but at the current rumored $2.4K--YGBSM!
Is there any performance disadvantages to shooting this camera in 1080p such as reduced dynamic range or anything else?
Sometimes there's more than double the res difference between 1080 and 4k on some cameras. i can't remember off the top of my head for the S5, but I'd have mentioned or shown any differences in this video,
Great review, thank you.
I'm looking at ALL the possible reviews, because I would like to buy this camera so much, but I heard the autofocus is not top notch, compared to other major names.
My alternative is the Canon r6, which has a GODLY autofocus ahah
I show you what the AF is like in the video, what did you think of it?
@@cameralabs I would say the focus when your face is in the same spot in the same distance is great, but when it comes to CATCHING and searching you around the viewfinder, it has quite some problems.
Panasonic should make a full frame range finder style camera like their GX Micro 4/3 series or like the Sony A7c
Shooting 4K 10 bit 24f I wonder how long it would take to fill up a 256 gb card on the s5
First of all thanks for the complete content. I bet there’s been a lot of work behind.
I think it will be a hit for Panasonic with regard to their usual sales numbers. It will help getting more people into the system.
There was a lot of expectations about sub 1000 $ cameras but neither Panasonic or Sony are willing to lower the bar. Instead Panasonic is providing great value for money by adding many pro video features.
I am a bit concerned that pure photography is losing ground and interest. And I will have to pay extra for video features I don’t really need. How much would a photographer’s S5 would have been ?
Not complaining by any means. 2020 is a hell of a year for mirrorless
why would i need an external monitor recorder that starts from ISO 640?
what the point from shooting video internally?
ISO 640 for recording on monitor gives you worse dynamic range right away.
Do you mean log recording? Most log modes are between 400 and 800iso at their base.
I don't understand why Panasonic didn't allow FF 4K60p. That will still differentiate it from the R5, R6 & Sony A7Siii. Then there's the AF which still lags the previously mentioned cameras.
Doesn't this have something to do with the sensor limitation on the supplied sensor (which is supplied by Sony incidentally)??
Hi Gordon, great content as usual. Your thumbnail photos resembles Jason Lanier. Gets me every time
Oh! Is that a good thing?
How do you keep custom settings different for video from photography mode?
For example cinelike d2 on movie mode and standard on picture mode for photography? I hear you have to manually change and cannot choose between the two unless saved as custom.
In the menu go to cog (third from top on left), then image quality (top centre), and the bottom of the first page is Creative Video Combined Set. This allows you to separate photography and video preferences for F/SS/ISO/Exposure Comp, White Balance, Photo Style, Metering Mode, and AF Mode.
Interesting camera, great video Gordon like always !
Thanks!
I just shot a feature film on the S5. The image is spectacular, actual poetry. I was shooting GH4's and 5's before I came across this monster. Don't for get, you are not just getting 422 10 bit, you are getting that at "full Frame." M4/3 just does not compare. Also, I shot into the Ninja V which gave me 5.9k RAW, 422, 12 bit, full frame. I got an open box deal for 1,300 and am totally in awe of the image quality. No better deal out there for narrative filmmakers.
Definitely, it's a very strong camera.
When is this camera supposed to become available ??
I'm watching the video one first then going to photo thanks for your hard work
So long as you watch them both!
@@cameralabs of course
How is the low light video performance?
Ibis + eis, for me, looks like it works the best for vlogging
The AF :( Why, I don't understand what is going on. The camera clearly tracks heads, eyes, bodies etc but just can't seem to hold on to them.
Along with the photography review, best info os S5.
Hi! Anybody know what the bit rate on S&Q mode at 150fps? Thanks
very nice, I really want this or the GH5 to replace my G7
Good choices!
What's the latest plague of manufacturers obsessed with the number 5? R5 Z5 S5 and Sony rumored A5? I'd say 10bit 422 uncropped 4k at least up to 30p is standard for hybrid camera in late 2020.
Oh snap! this is the video I need to buy this camera! Thanks
You're welcome!
I want to film dance movies, at this price point do you think this is the best option, ??
If the dancers are in a show and you're in the audience, it should be fine, but if you're on stage and closer to them, you'll prefer the continuous AF of Sony and Canon.
@@cameralabs got a brand new alpha3 for 1400$ went for it, im not disapoointed
@@MounMoun69 Great camera
If somebody would like to jump in and tell us why we should get this camera instead of a X-T4? Personally I really don't see why but hey, I might be missing something?
Thank You for the great review Gordon. Beautiful camera that unfortunately ignores the main reason for many to switch to mirror less- superior auto focus.
It is hard to see Panasonic surviving if they don't make cameras with mainstream appeal-pity.
Oh please. Panasonic does not care about youtube whiners, either you learn how to shoot in manuel focus or go get a cheap overpriced Sony, Canon or the overheating Fuji. And Panasonic will be in business a very long time. It's funny that no one complains about the micro 4 thirds Black Magic Design which has no auto focus but wanna complain about Panasonic, SMH.
I wonder how long Panasonic will be able to stay in the game given that they seem to be losing money on their LUMIX division.
WHY, WHY, WHY didn't Pany include phase-detect?! Even a $300 penalty ($2,300 retail) would have pulled over MANY customers! Stupid decisions killing a key performance option destroys all the other efforts on this product. DUMB!
Hello, can Lumix s5 record RAW video to SD card?
No, sadly not,
Hi,
Thanks for the video!
I've also bought the same camera a few days ago and I'm super happy with it.
I am using the same settings as yours (P-MODE), but I have a question: When I zoom in before recording, my preview get's laggy, but when I press the record-button, the lag stops and it's recording normal.
It's a little bit frustrating, because when I am setting up my shot, the lag can be a distraction.
What can the cause of that be?
Thanks in advance!
Maybe a power saving mode? Or try turning off and on after you zoomed?
@@cameralabs I think I found the solution, if I click on the +- button and I lower the number, the lag is gone. But I can see that you have a MM icon instead of +-. Is there any difference between the two?
@@sequelproductionsfilms I think one is within the movie mode vs the photo modes
@@cameralabs That's probably it! Thank you!
@@sequelproductionsfilms yes, always make sure you're in the movie mode when you're filming video
i think the AF works worse while EIS was on
Finally Full Frame with the size of G9 body! On third try... not a brick... we can travel lite now... since it's hybrid, the question is... will Panasonic cripple this one with the firmware, like with G9, so after 2 years and 3 FW updates we still have same photo profiles for taking pictures and old codecs for time-lapse processing, no HLG photo, HDR or HEVC support... "the photographers" camera! And... still don't have any single wide angle prime lenses for entire MFT system, 8,9 or 10mm, similar to 14mm and 20mm pancakes lenses... or even simple manual focus lens with no electronics for video, landscape photography and again, for time-lapses... for simple tripod use.
Moving forward Panasonic, leaving behind all people with your old cameras, without any new codecs updates or new pictures profiles!
This one will get you started at $2299 with a kit lens... and then, they will tell you, we will have 5-in-1 $2800 new lens, two years later... like with G9...
Great Job, Gordon! Watched both parts of this most detailed review! You put a lot of effort in both parts... I hope they let you keep this camera...
Laowa 7.5?
@@evenaicantfigurethisout it's an option.... but I meant the native mft lenses from Panasonic. Last decade they are making best video featured cameras, but haven't produce a single manual focus cine lens for video, a simple inexpensive set of glass for videomakers... Of course, we can adopt many lenses, including Laowa(which produces horrible color fringing), but that voids all features for lens geometry correction and artifacts in camera bodies, which corrects most issues with supported lenses in firmware.
Panasonic could of done that many years ago, but they decided to cripple entire MFT system... for years... since GH1-2... "funny" thing is, last year they insulted entire MFT owners community, who invested if their glass, with 5-in-1 10-25mm lens, setting the price of $1800(US) while selling most bodies around $700-$800! We already have 12, 14, 15, 20 and 25mm... we only need 9 or 10mm ultra wide small pancake primes for around $199... I have 3 MFT bodies and also own 2 hybrid cameras(FZ150 and FZ300) with 25-in-1 Leica lenses, 25-648mm f2.8, one of the best glass I have for video(yes, constant f2.8 recording un-cropped 4K with zero distortions), Today FZ300 still sells for $399, the entire camera!... M A R K E T I N G!!! Speaking of which, the S5, same G9 body($904 shipped from B&H last year) with FF sensor today costs $1899 plus tax... question for everybody...would you pay an extra $1000 for full frame sensor "to move forward"?
anyone knows the location ? Where hes filming?
You can ask me directly! Most of my samples are shot / filmed around Brighton UK
@@cameralabs will do that in future, tahnk you.
I shall use the Super 35mm mode 70% of the time
How much is it?
I tell you in the video and provide links in the description and pinned comment.
Ahh, so it is sensor-shift, not censorship stabilisation, I've got it the second time! :)
Ha ha! I'd not thought of that!
@@cameralabs You say it very quickly lol. I think this is a perfect camera for night footage. Much more complete than BlackMagic Pocket 4K. One needs a good auto-focus only when one does weddings etc, otherwise which serious videographer would trust continues auto-focus.
The focus is realllly slow. That would drive me nuts. I can focus faster manually.
While the camera doesn’t overheat, it’s not being asked to do very much either, so that’s not surprising. APS-C crop for 4K 50/60? Meh.
Over exposed in the woods. Highlights blown out, and shadows blocky. Electronic stab very jerky.
Autofocus is quite nice
Please GH6!
Will still wait for GH6
green colour slightly effect the skin tone ,,
Panasonic continue the same mistake like my GH5
You do realize that that is like the easiest thing to fix ever when shooting 10 bit?
Also, for the vlog, it's accurate for his skin go have a slight green tint, since he's in the actual forest so most light hitting him has bounced off of the leaves.
@@omeharto288 U R mistaken ,,
Panasonic produce skin tone in green channel
both vlog n cined
@@omeharto288 when iam trying to fix that. the skin tone gone red channel the colour look magenta
@@isart3757 well I have never had any problems with that, try using the hue slider with the skintones line.
Отличный обзор!!!!!!!!!!))
Great review, thanks man! My gosh you've got some shaky hands ;)
that's my curse
Geezus, man, your speed of talking is way too fast. Slowing it down to .75 speed ('settings') sounds perfect. Most product review people just rattle facts at near lightning speed. Please slow down. Nice review, however.
TH-cam punishes videos that are too long, so if I went slower, it'd get less views!
@@cameralabs I didn't know that, Gordon. Thanks for the info.
30 minute record limit in 10 bit ??? Ffs Panasonic, it’s 2020.
That IBIS is horrible
Too bad :(
Does it overheat ? ;)
Did you watch the video?
May I know why should a pure videographer select a stiils camera rather than a dedicated camcorder for his work?! Ultra HD capable camcorders from different brands can be bought little cheaper than this camera you are talking about. Those will offer unlimited recording time, great zoom range and excellent video quality. So, why are still cameras so much focused on videos these days?!
If I ever shoot pro-level video; I'll definitely pickup a camcorder for that job. That may be a Panasonic as well.
Most dedicated camcorders have v small sensors, non-removable lenses and far fewer pro features. Models like the S5 are not stills cameras, they're hybrid cameras, designed for both.
@@cameralabs, lol. Even handycams can also shoot still images!
@@quazisanjeed6395 The same versatility and image quality in a dedicated video camera costs much more. The Sony FX9 is more than £11k, the Panasonic S5 with with 20-60 lens has a street price of around £1600. Another £1000 will buy a good mic, cage and Atomos Ninja.
@@borderlands6606 pros aren't bothered with those. They select pro-grade equipment. The one presented here doesn't meet those requirements.
@@quazisanjeed6395 Professional equipment is any gear that makes money for the user. A content creator, wedding videographer and broadcast filmmaker have different requirements. For some a small sensor and fixed zoom lens would be adequate, for others not so.
If you want the highest visual quality and industry build standards (interchangeable lenses, high data rates, solid codecs, ports, electronic or manual focusing devices), expect to pay x5/10 of the enthusiast equivalent. Mirrorless cameras can achieve most of those criteria, which is why they are increasingly popular for revenue earning jobs.