Yes, in my opinion. In fact, I think he's not just **a** god, he's **the God.** The Witcher world is dark and depressing, so it'd make sense for its supreme being to be malevolent instead of benevolent. GO'D has also shown numerous attributes of a divine being (which Satan/Devil/Djinns/Demons don't have):- 1. The power of nature: Created a massive sea storm at a whim. 2. The power of creation: Created an entire dimension filled with stars and constellations with merely a clap of his hands, just for playing a riddle with Geralt. Even said replying to an amused Geralt, "you like it? Plenty more from whence it came" implying that he has created many more such worlds. 3. The power of Time: Paused reality with a clap of his hands and even decided to allow Geralt's movement in stopped Time. Claimed to have learnt Time manipulation for amusement. 4. The power of 4th wall awareness: Looks directly at the player while replying "No Geralt, you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish". 5. The power of destiny/fate: His card's description on the official website states several things, such as "Our fate is in his hands", "he's always been there, quietly pulling at fate's strings", "his influence knows no bouds", and "You may be tempted to try to defy the diabolical trickster, but in the end all will play by his rules and all will bend to his will. He's Master Mirror, and it's he who decides how the story plays out". These statements imply how GO'D controls fate off the screen and always has a higher purpose. Even if you're tempted to defy him (such as Geralt "beating" him in the riddle), even that is a part of his greater plan in the grand scheme of things.
I would love to see him against an enraged higher Vampire or a unseen Elder Vampire. The Unseen has powers who seemingly rivals a "god" and the unseen ones could be the strongest Vampires who live. I believe no where is stated that there is a higher ranked Vampire then the few unseen Elder Vampire. So if O'Dim could freeze a unseen Elder in time or kill him with one clap, then i would call him a true god. But its possible that he cant do something against Vampires cause he is the man of the mirrors and such mirrors dont work on Vampires in folklore. Would be a interessting matchup 😊
@@rtxmeatlug3149 I don't think he's a/the god... But rather "the other guy"... Let's check the facts... He wanders around, finding people in trouble and offers them to fulfill their wishes and takes their soul in return... Sounds familiar? Plus, he toys with humans, corrupts them and even the wishes he grants always have some sort of a catch... On top of it all, the base for this character (and the story from Hearts of Stone) is an old story about a man who sold his soul to the devil, but requested that the contract is to be concluded in Rome, determined never to visit that city. However, one time, while he was on a journey and entered an inn. And the devil appeared, showing him that the name of the inn was Rome and that it wasn't specified it had to be the city in the contract... Hmmmm, sounds familiar again... Wasn't there a contract to be concluded on the Moon in Hearts of stone? Of course, we see him as extremely powerful in the game as well, capable of changing weather, stopping time... Oh, a lot of people said that the initials of his name make sense (GOD). But, that may as well be a mockery to the actual god or showing the devil being the god in Witcher universe... Which also makes sense...
I think it is possible to deduce it without knowing this, but there is an old Polish legend about a noble man who sold his soul to the devil, in exchange for knowledge and power. Trying to outsmart the devil, he added to the contract that his soul would only be devoured if his foot stands in Rome. He obviously never went to Rome, yet after years past he let down his guard and stummbled into a tavern, called "Rome". So Olgierd's story was clearly inspired by this. Wchich would make O'dim the embodiment of the devil int the Witcher's world and explain all of his exploits and him likeing to tempt people into bad decisions. When i first realized it in the game it made me very excited becouse the character went from an evil trickster, maybe a very strong mage, to the most powerfull and evil beeing you ever encountered.
"We managed to come up with a couple of cool ideas, and then one day [CD Projekt Managing Director] Adam Badowski walks into our room and says he wants Pan Twardowski. Not literally, obviously, but this kind of story. So that's what we gave him and the rest of the world - a The Witcher take on Pan Twardowski. The Man of Glass was a perfect fit."
To me it was always obvious that Gaunter was the devil. 1 he leaves a mark on your forehead (mark of the beast). 2 he asks you to meet him at the crossroads to discuss what you owe him for his help. 3 He offers people whatever they want in exchange for their souls. 4. People that find out his true identity go crazy. This is a stretch but in my opinion it’s referring to how no one knows the answer to if there is life after death and most people think people are crazy when they say they’ve met the devil or seen demons.
I mean I think this is kinda spot on cause O'Dimm doesn't come off as a bad entity at all while dealing with Geralt. Aside from killing the guy with a spoon. But I believe Geralt has killed people to prove a point or to be noticed as well. In the books (the last wish) Geralt killed 3 people in a pub to get the attention of the king foltest so he could take on the contract to cure the striga.
God I loved that DLC. It didn't really bring much of anything I hadn't seen before (any deal with the devil tale out there) but there isn't anything wrong with that, it was awesome. I'd never seen THOSE characters in that situation and it was fun to do so.
Agreed. I think people try to tell stories so unique, it makes them outlandish.. To the point, where they mess up the oldest art of man -telling stories.
We've too little information to confirm his character. That's his most striking appeal in my opinion: All we know is hearsay, except for the empirical facts of him being A) powerful, B) engaging in voluntary contracts and C) killing, but not torturing, random individuals who draw his ire (such as the guy at the bar who got his brain ventilated). Only C is ethically condemnable, though nowhere near the cruelty of humans. Aside from that, viewing O'Dimm as either evil or good follows a Christian fallacy: Describing an entity as good does not make it good, and vice-versa. It's merely hearsay, which only a juvenile mind would find convincing. Perhaps the strongest indication of O'Dimm's evil is his use of a childlike riddle to test Geralt. Such a decision can only be a childish whim, as riddles are in no way a meaningful indication of a person's character or effective intelligence. Of course, we can chalk that up to the folklore memes which The Witcher is built upon, but nonetheless it is an indication of a petty and opportunistic character.
One thing that I miss G.O.D. it would be interesting if among prizes would be option to fight very real illusions of some of the hardest enemies from the books (Vilgefortz for example)
I'm curious where in the world your from, your accent has a real interesting cadence to it like listening to how you tell this if I replaced the words to ones that rhymed you would be rapping essentially
"We managed to come up with a couple of cool ideas, and then one day [CD Projekt Managing Director] Adam Badowski walks into our room and says he wants Pan Twardowski. Not literally, obviously, but this kind of story. So that's what we gave him and the rest of the world - a The Witcher take on Pan Twardowski. The Man of Glass was a perfect fit."
@@Del11k Pan Twardowski makes a pact with the devil, It's the devil, no need to spam the Pan Twardowski tale, which is just one among many stories about pacts with the devil, like Goethe's Faust
It appears in order for life on the Continent to ever get fundamentally better, someone has to find a way to destroy or banish Gaunter O’Dimm for good. Humanity in the Witcher series has done plenty of bad things on their own, but he seems to have instigated many of the worst widespread atrocities of humans fighting nonhumans, human civil wars and other disasters over the centuries.
In my opinion Gaunter is a higher demon, more along the lines of Baal or Moloch from ancient Jewish and Christian text. He has every character trait of a demon, negative influences and thoughts, vast knowledge, abilities to grant you whatever you want in exchange for your soul, etc etc. you said it yourself, he can’t directly impact the world like God can, but he can influence it into a negative outcome, like Satan or a demon.
Still, he can impact the world if he wants it... Remember the spoon in the eye in the middle of the day in the inn. That moment was frightening. Because until that precise moment, we are made to believe he can't really act by himself. But oh boy he can really do !! And throught stopping time itself ! It's just not the way he acts, but he can. Only if it's fun to him.
@@Ehrenhaider_Akainu I don't think he's THAT powerful, he seems more like a really powerful djinn or something. He's definitely not like a fundamental part of the universe's plan
@@erikgilson1687 he is lol he is portrayed as the Devil and no ones there who could even come close to his power in the slightest way, Master Mirror with the initials G.O.D., the Mirror of God=the Devil hes also based on a polish legend where again hes the Devil
@@Ehrenhaider_Akainu I mean I guess, if the devil is like some Charlie Daniels level "I can beat him with a fiddle contest" style loser in the Witcher universe. All Geralt had to do was run through a bunch of imaginary mazes and break some mirrors to beat him
Gaunter is evil bc he feeds on other's misery with glee and pushes them into their worst selves. If a hero is someone who brings out the best in people, a villain brings out the worst and that's why Gaunter is a villain. The whole "I just watch people ruin themselves" is a bullshit excuse so he feels less trivial about himself but he is just a bully. People wouldn't have been ruined if he didn't push them into ruin. We all have potential for good and bad and Gaunter purposefully brings out the worst in people for his own amusement. Definition of evil.
Ok with you, but I will add it's also the same definition for a god. A lot of the more or less 3 000 gods of humans are kind of evil, petty, childlike. No matter if there are from a pantheon or just one. They all share the power to ruin lives, and to act in that sens whenever they see it if for themselves.
Gaunter is not a god, no, or at least, not as we understand god as in the Abrahamic religions. He is neither omniscient nor omnipresent. If he was omniscient, there is no way Geralt could outwit him. And if he was omnipresent, he could break his own contracts without penalty. Gaunter is subject to rules, albeit not many. Mainly, he apparently cannot violate the terms of his own contracts. Secondly, he apparently cannot directly lie to the other party. While he certainly uses legalism and wordplay to fulfill conditions of a contract in a manner they were clearly not intended, he doesn’t actually ever deceive anyone by not fulfilling the terms in some manner. He reminds me of a trickster, including the passing cruelty. Tricksters delighted in causing people to “hoist themselves on their own petard”. Or giving people that the trickster felt was too smug or arrogant their just deserts, or serving people an ironic fate. For example, in Supernatural the Winchester brothers encounter a trickster that would manipulate time and reality to play cruel games on people. The trickster put Sam and Dean in a Groundhog Day situation in which Dean would die each day, only for Sam to wake up the next day with Dean alive and in the same hotel. Sam would remember each day, but Dean wouldn’t, and no matter what Sam did to try and avoid whatever killed Dean the previous day, something else would kill him. Sam would try each day to convince Dean they were in some kind of time loop, only to have Dean die in some convoluted and unlikely method anyway. It only ended after Sam figured out the trickster himself was a guy that was in the diner where they’d eat breakfast, because he ordered something different after all the times of ordering the same thing. The trickster agreed to stop the loop and let the brothers go, only to have Dean get shot and killed the next day. There was no loop, but Sam became so morose and bitter that the trickster lost the fun. The trickster was also passing cruel, for example, throwing a guy into a black hole who claimed they didn’t exist. Just very… familiar.
Is Gaunter O’Dimm a god?
Yes, in my opinion. In fact, I think he's not just **a** god, he's **the God.** The Witcher world is dark and depressing, so it'd make sense for its supreme being to be malevolent instead of benevolent. GO'D has also shown numerous attributes of a divine being (which Satan/Devil/Djinns/Demons don't have):-
1. The power of nature: Created a massive sea storm at a whim.
2. The power of creation: Created an entire dimension filled with stars and constellations with merely a clap of his hands, just for playing a riddle with Geralt. Even said replying to an amused Geralt, "you like it? Plenty more from whence it came" implying that he has created many more such worlds.
3. The power of Time: Paused reality with a clap of his hands and even decided to allow Geralt's movement in stopped Time. Claimed to have learnt Time manipulation for amusement.
4. The power of 4th wall awareness: Looks directly at the player while replying "No Geralt, you don't. This one time I shall spare you and not grant your wish".
5. The power of destiny/fate: His card's description on the official website states several things, such as "Our fate is in his hands", "he's always been there, quietly pulling at fate's strings", "his influence knows no bouds", and "You may be tempted to try to defy the diabolical trickster, but in the end all will play by his rules and all will bend to his will. He's Master Mirror, and it's he who decides how the story plays out".
These statements imply how GO'D controls fate off the screen and always has a higher purpose. Even if you're tempted to defy him (such as Geralt "beating" him in the riddle), even that is a part of his greater plan in the grand scheme of things.
I would love to see him against an enraged higher Vampire or a unseen Elder Vampire. The Unseen has powers who seemingly rivals a "god" and the unseen ones could be the strongest Vampires who live. I believe no where is stated that there is a higher ranked Vampire then the few unseen Elder Vampire. So if O'Dim could freeze a unseen Elder in time or kill him with one clap, then i would call him a true god. But its possible that he cant do something against Vampires cause he is the man of the mirrors and such mirrors dont work on Vampires in folklore. Would be a interessting matchup 😊
@@rtxmeatlug3149 I don't think he's a/the god... But rather "the other guy"... Let's check the facts...
He wanders around, finding people in trouble and offers them to fulfill their wishes and takes their soul in return... Sounds familiar? Plus, he toys with humans, corrupts them and even the wishes he grants always have some sort of a catch...
On top of it all, the base for this character (and the story from Hearts of Stone) is an old story about a man who sold his soul to the devil, but requested that the contract is to be concluded in Rome, determined never to visit that city. However, one time, while he was on a journey and entered an inn. And the devil appeared, showing him that the name of the inn was Rome and that it wasn't specified it had to be the city in the contract... Hmmmm, sounds familiar again... Wasn't there a contract to be concluded on the Moon in Hearts of stone?
Of course, we see him as extremely powerful in the game as well, capable of changing weather, stopping time... Oh, a lot of people said that the initials of his name make sense (GOD). But, that may as well be a mockery to the actual god or showing the devil being the god in Witcher universe... Which also makes sense...
@@ivanstepanovic1327 Well, he could be the demiurge.
O'Dimm could be Odin.
I think it is possible to deduce it without knowing this, but there is an old Polish legend about a noble man who sold his soul to the devil, in exchange for knowledge and power. Trying to outsmart the devil, he added to the contract that his soul would only be devoured if his foot stands in Rome. He obviously never went to Rome, yet after years past he let down his guard and stummbled into a tavern, called "Rome". So Olgierd's story was clearly inspired by this. Wchich would make O'dim the embodiment of the devil int the Witcher's world and explain all of his exploits and him likeing to tempt people into bad decisions. When i first realized it in the game it made me very excited becouse the character went from an evil trickster, maybe a very strong mage, to the most powerfull and evil beeing you ever encountered.
"We managed to come up with a couple of cool ideas, and then one day [CD Projekt Managing Director] Adam Badowski walks into our room and says he wants Pan Twardowski. Not literally, obviously, but this kind of story. So that's what we gave him and the rest of the world - a The Witcher take on Pan Twardowski. The Man of Glass was a perfect fit."
To me it was always obvious that Gaunter was the devil. 1 he leaves a mark on your forehead (mark of the beast). 2 he asks you to meet him at the crossroads to discuss what you owe him for his help. 3 He offers people whatever they want in exchange for their souls. 4. People that find out his true identity go crazy. This is a stretch but in my opinion it’s referring to how no one knows the answer to if there is life after death and most people think people are crazy when they say they’ve met the devil or seen demons.
Is Gaunter O'Dimm evil or merely a reflection of the human he's interacting with? Afterall he is a merchant of mirros.
" - Show off.
- Of course I am." (c)
😏😈
You might be onto something. 😏
I mean I think this is kinda spot on cause O'Dimm doesn't come off as a bad entity at all while dealing with Geralt. Aside from killing the guy with a spoon. But I believe Geralt has killed people to prove a point or to be noticed as well. In the books (the last wish) Geralt killed 3 people in a pub to get the attention of the king foltest so he could take on the contract to cure the striga.
Great video! Gaunter is such an intriguing character probably my favourite character of all time.
I found this dlc to be the best story in the witcher 3 , even more so than the bloody baron
Gotta love the polish Walter O’Dimme.
God I loved that DLC. It didn't really bring much of anything I hadn't seen before (any deal with the devil tale out there) but there isn't anything wrong with that, it was awesome. I'd never seen THOSE characters in that situation and it was fun to do so.
Agreed. I think people try to tell stories so unique, it makes them outlandish.. To the point, where they mess up the oldest art of man -telling stories.
We've too little information to confirm his character. That's his most striking appeal in my opinion: All we know is hearsay, except for the empirical facts of him being A) powerful, B) engaging in voluntary contracts and C) killing, but not torturing, random individuals who draw his ire (such as the guy at the bar who got his brain ventilated). Only C is ethically condemnable, though nowhere near the cruelty of humans. Aside from that, viewing O'Dimm as either evil or good follows a Christian fallacy: Describing an entity as good does not make it good, and vice-versa. It's merely hearsay, which only a juvenile mind would find convincing.
Perhaps the strongest indication of O'Dimm's evil is his use of a childlike riddle to test Geralt. Such a decision can only be a childish whim, as riddles are in no way a meaningful indication of a person's character or effective intelligence. Of course, we can chalk that up to the folklore memes which The Witcher is built upon, but nonetheless it is an indication of a petty and opportunistic character.
Well written 🧐
One thing that I miss
G.O.D. it would be interesting if among prizes would be option to fight very real illusions of some of the hardest enemies from the books (Vilgefortz for example)
Gaunter O'Dimm is also the strange man in Red Dead Redemption. (Spoiler)
I'm curious where in the world your from, your accent has a real interesting cadence to it like listening to how you tell this if I replaced the words to ones that rhymed you would be rapping essentially
Greetings! 🙌🏼
We originate from Ukraine
And our voiceover man does have a history of hip-hop… as a matter of fact, an ongoing one :)
He grants wishes on a crossroad, and in return he takes something from you, he is the devil, no brainer really.
"We managed to come up with a couple of cool ideas, and then one day [CD Projekt Managing Director] Adam Badowski walks into our room and says he wants Pan Twardowski. Not literally, obviously, but this kind of story. So that's what we gave him and the rest of the world - a The Witcher take on Pan Twardowski. The Man of Glass was a perfect fit."
@@Del11k I saw your reply, no need to copy/paste all over the comment thread.
@@Del11k
Pan Twardowski makes a pact with the devil, It's the devil, no need to spam the Pan Twardowski tale, which is just one among many stories about pacts with the devil, like Goethe's Faust
It’s like he mirror anyone he deals with
I think Gainter O'Dimm is just a crossroad demon
I would reallllly like to see him be the main villain or expanded upon in the next Witcher game
One of Randal Flaggs aliases is Walter Odim
Gaunter O'Dimm is the embodiment of the world after Minecraft was released.
Thanks for the great video!
Could IT be that gaunter IS the reason this Woman in Witcher 2 could Transform into a Dragon?
It appears in order for life on the Continent to ever get fundamentally better, someone has to find a way to destroy or banish Gaunter O’Dimm for good. Humanity in the Witcher series has done plenty of bad things on their own, but he seems to have instigated many of the worst widespread atrocities of humans fighting nonhumans, human civil wars and other disasters over the centuries.
In my opinion Gaunter is a higher demon, more along the lines of Baal or Moloch from ancient Jewish and Christian text. He has every character trait of a demon, negative influences and thoughts, vast knowledge, abilities to grant you whatever you want in exchange for your soul, etc etc. you said it yourself, he can’t directly impact the world like God can, but he can influence it into a negative outcome, like Satan or a demon.
Still, he can impact the world if he wants it... Remember the spoon in the eye in the middle of the day in the inn.
That moment was frightening.
Because until that precise moment, we are made to believe he can't really act by himself. But oh boy he can really do !! And throught stopping time itself !
It's just not the way he acts, but he can. Only if it's fun to him.
What did you he mean when he called the witcher continent the neverland? I hadn't heard it referred to like that
Everybody called me that since my name is so similar
Is Gaunter O'Dimm somehow a pre-conjunction being? Are there any supernatural or preternatural pre-conjunction beings?
Hes a nigh omnipotent Entity, the Devil so yes probably there before the Universe itself
@@Ehrenhaider_Akainu I don't think he's THAT powerful, he seems more like a really powerful djinn or something. He's definitely not like a fundamental part of the universe's plan
@@erikgilson1687 he is lol he is portrayed as the Devil and no ones there who could even come close to his power in the slightest way, Master Mirror with the initials G.O.D., the Mirror of God=the Devil hes also based on a polish legend where again hes the Devil
@@Ehrenhaider_Akainu I mean I guess, if the devil is like some Charlie Daniels level "I can beat him with a fiddle contest" style loser in the Witcher universe. All Geralt had to do was run through a bunch of imaginary mazes and break some mirrors to beat him
Is there any new information o dim have or can he take away the witchers mutation and make Gerald human again
I shall start from here
I wonder how Gaunter compares to She Who Knows
He's a Leprechaun.........
Gaunter is evil bc he feeds on other's misery with glee and pushes them into their worst selves. If a hero is someone who brings out the best in people, a villain brings out the worst and that's why Gaunter is a villain.
The whole "I just watch people ruin themselves" is a bullshit excuse so he feels less trivial about himself but he is just a bully. People wouldn't have been ruined if he didn't push them into ruin. We all have potential for good and bad and Gaunter purposefully brings out the worst in people for his own amusement. Definition of evil.
Ok with you, but I will add it's also the same definition for a god.
A lot of the more or less 3 000 gods of humans are kind of evil, petty, childlike. No matter if there are from a pantheon or just one.
They all share the power to ruin lives, and to act in that sens whenever they see it if for themselves.
He’s not God, he’s mocking god.
Gaunter is not a god, no, or at least, not as we understand god as in the Abrahamic religions. He is neither omniscient nor omnipresent. If he was omniscient, there is no way Geralt could outwit him. And if he was omnipresent, he could break his own contracts without penalty.
Gaunter is subject to rules, albeit not many. Mainly, he apparently cannot violate the terms of his own contracts. Secondly, he apparently cannot directly lie to the other party. While he certainly uses legalism and wordplay to fulfill conditions of a contract in a manner they were clearly not intended, he doesn’t actually ever deceive anyone by not fulfilling the terms in some manner.
He reminds me of a trickster, including the passing cruelty. Tricksters delighted in causing people to “hoist themselves on their own petard”. Or giving people that the trickster felt was too smug or arrogant their just deserts, or serving people an ironic fate. For example, in Supernatural the Winchester brothers encounter a trickster that would manipulate time and reality to play cruel games on people. The trickster put Sam and Dean in a Groundhog Day situation in which Dean would die each day, only for Sam to wake up the next day with Dean alive and in the same hotel. Sam would remember each day, but Dean wouldn’t, and no matter what Sam did to try and avoid whatever killed Dean the previous day, something else would kill him. Sam would try each day to convince Dean they were in some kind of time loop, only to have Dean die in some convoluted and unlikely method anyway. It only ended after Sam figured out the trickster himself was a guy that was in the diner where they’d eat breakfast, because he ordered something different after all the times of ordering the same thing. The trickster agreed to stop the loop and let the brothers go, only to have Dean get shot and killed the next day. There was no loop, but Sam became so morose and bitter that the trickster lost the fun. The trickster was also passing cruel, for example, throwing a guy into a black hole who claimed they didn’t exist.
Just very… familiar.
I shall start from here