This is one character I hope never gets fully explained by cdpr his mystery is part of why he's so interesting its like in any good horror story, the best ones never fully explain the entities.
@@nubiancaynes2128it would be cool to have some vague hints just to make you ask more questions. It would be cool to see him mess with Geralt using a chess board of other people just to bring him back in. He's does seem to actually like and be intrigued by Geralt.
I like how after Geralt beats him and he's disappearing into the void, he calmly just talks shit and essentially is saying "whatever, you'ra a pussy and you don't really win."
He's absolutely the devil. He makes deals for souls, he has serpent eyes in the last cutscene, he loves to meddle in human affairs to the detriment of everyone but him, and he espouses morals of freedom and hedonism. Ochams razor, whatever explanation requires the fewedt assumptions is probably correct.
What do you mean by “The Devil” sir? Theres basically no culture on earth that recognizes a single evil entity. Especially not one that calls them “The Devil”
The spoon in the eye scene alongside him threatening to take Olgierd's brother Vlodimir "with him" shows us that if he chooses to he doesn't have to abide by any rules whatsoever, and that he only does so because HE imposes them on himself, and why does he do it? He himself tells us in the scene with the gingerbread. Because then the "gingerbread" is missing a crucial ingredient for him. If he just takes souls (which he absolutely could) he gets no satisfaction from it. The games he plays with his victims and in turn the time it takes him to win them is what gives him joy from taking souls. But he also makes it possible for him to be beaten otherwise the game isn't fair, and to him that would make the souls not worth taking as well. It's so subtle in the writing I don't think I ever saw something like this ever not just in video games but in all the books and shows and movies I consumed in my life, CDPR writers deserve to lauded as the best out there not just in video games but of all storytelling mediums. Also just as an anecdote in original myths especially the original Aladdin Djinns actually had unlimited wishes, the 3 wishes limit thing was popularised by Western adaptations probably "The Thief of Bagdad" and completely cemented by Disney. The only "older" legend that has 3 wishes is that of the golden fish and the fisherman but that's because the fish is caught by the fisherman 3 times offering any wish in return for its freedom. In The Last Wish Geralt catching the Djinn's seal while fishing is a throwback to that tale as well.
@@NexFriday1345 No reason to think that. Vlodimir was not part of the pact he was a victim of it sacrificed by Olgierd. but his death was "natural" his soul was not taken he never agreed to give it up but Gaunter still threatens to do it which means he is capable of doing it. Also no I HIGHLY doubt Gaunter can only torture his ghost because Olgierd sacrificed the scene was entirely a demonstration of the extent of his power showing he is able to torture the dead. Your argument would be applicable if Vlodomir was in Gaunter's "realm" where he takes his souls but he isn't
@@yairsofer8933 Just some things that make me wonder tho if Gaunter O, Dim is a very powerful god, demon, djinn, or whatever he is and treats the witcher universe as a game or a playground to just have fun and do whatever he wants, and he knows everything. Why didn't he go after Ciri, Yennefer, or Eredin and take advantage of their desparation, make a deal with any of them-Ciri fleeing the wild hunt, renouncing her gift, or Yennefer trying to find Ciri like Eredin? Those would be great opportunities for him, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't choose to do so unless he does have limitations. Moreover, having the soul of someone with the elder blood or child of prophecy would be a great achievement for his game, I reckon. Sorry for my English; it is not my first language.
@@NexFriday1345 no problem about the English it's not my first language either. The thing CDPR was going with when it comes to Gaunter O'Dimm is that he also has lovecraftian influences meaning we do not know or understand his motives maybe it's even impossible for us to understand them. What it appears to be is that Gaunter also "mirrors" his attitude depending on who he talks to, and people he deems as evil are the ones he wants their souls and punish them the most he doesn't care who they are but only WHAT they are (evil in his eyes or not), notice how he always talks very kindly to Geralt vs how he talks to and about Olgierd calling him a "monster in human flesh" and Olgierd is a bad dude let's not pretend. though Gaunter has no qualms about taking the lives of people who are not necessarily like that when he kills the old man with the spoon and also has no problem taking Geralt's soul but it's only after Geralt asks him to make a deal. We also see this in Blood and Wine where Gaunter Marlene to become a Wight because he deemed her a bad person we see he chooses to punish people that he thinks are evil. We know Gaunter is capable of knowing the future and altering events like the world is his toy he knew Geralt would find Ciri and stop the Wild Hunt and the White Frost. As I said we can't assume his motive as a being that is essentially a god (again Lovecraftian influence) but we can maybe say that he chose to not get involved because he knew how things would go down, AND that Yen and Ciri are not evil so he doesn't seek to punish them. We know next to nothing about him but what we can be sure about is that the only limits he has are self imposed because he chooses to do it. Why we don't know and probably never know
Such an unsettling character. Always felt uneasy around him. Even though I couldn’t stand Olgeird I would always save him because I couldn’t side with Gaunter
Me to man. Watching Olgeird ruin his marriage and life just for money and status is one of those life lessons I am so glad I learned early. I tried selling my soul to the devil for a woman and so glad it didn’t work like I had wanted. Lol
Great video. I would like to add that Twardowski's mirror can be seen in a church in Węgrów in Poland. It is specially suspended high so that you can not look through it 😊.
I think he's some sort of eldritch being like Nyarlathotep. His motivations and nature are simply beyond understanding and his sense of morality is very different from ours. He's not as much truly evil as he is just curious and bored. There are a couple videos by a channel called "Proper Bird" which I think outline my thoughts almost perfectly. Also yes I'd love a huge Master Mirror video!
Master Mirror tends to reflect the evil of a person or lack of in the deals he makes. I do take umbrage though to his comparison to Fring, the Man of Glass has a healthy sense of humor, far more than Gus. As for the Spotted Wright, she violated the Toussantian right of hospitality, paid the price, and that later gave Geralt a reagent from an otherwise extinct creature that without would have seriously complicated Geralt's journey and life in many ways. Master Mirror directs Geralt to the garrison in White Orchard to find Yen, saves Geralt on the ship, filicates the supply of a rare reagent a century in advance to it being needed, can help Geralt to find Ciri, and if asked at the right time will tell Geralt how to make sure Ciri survives. Is Master Mirror evil? Yes, at least some of the time or perhaps mischievous or something akin to. Evil incarnate? In my opinion no or why would he have helped stop The White Frost and been generally beneficial to Geralt over all? Just some food for thought.
Alex Norton is far too good an actor to have played only a cameo role for what would have been a forgettable character, and it's largely his performance that makes Gaunter O'Dimm such a great character. He absolutely nails the polite condescension, and brings a unique charisma to him. As for the character though, I hope we are never given a conclusive answer because the mystery is as much a part of the character as anything else. Give us a definitive answer as to who he is and you diminish the character.
The kids singing the song mannnn. One of the coolest characters. me personally I think he’s the devil. This whole thing just reminds me of making a deal with the devil at like a crossroad somewhere and you know.
And he describes himself as a “merchant of mirrors”. When I first played the game and became intrigued by the character, that implied to me that he’s saying he’s the opposite of “god”
I personally think that he might be a god, not the god but one of them because I don't remember anyone in The Witcher universe saying "god" in singular it's always "gods" in plural and I like to believe that he is some kind of "fallen god" or whatever similarly to Lucifer being The Fallen Angel and that the 3 wishes thing is either his way of having fun or it's somehow tied to his god thingy, like Ares is the god of war, Hades the god of the dead etc. something like that.
One theme of Gaunter O’Dimm that I extremely like is how he only targets bad people or people who peak around too much. Olgierd is the leader of a band of bandits who murdered and destroyed villages, Marlene refused to feed the beggar-disguised Gaunter despite tradition demands her so, Professor Shakelock was too close to finding out Gaunter O’Dimm’s identity,… he doesn’t just randomly targets innocent individuals. Even in Geralt’s case, he only offered to help Geralt with a price and even gave Geralt a tip after the deed.
Actually Olgierd isn’t the monster he’s often made out to be. If you really look into it, Geralt doesn’t even meet the real Olgierd until after Hearts of Stone. Gaunter O’Dimm is able to phrase things to make himself seem the victim while really he twists his words to make it seem like he’s playing fair. Take the old man in Oxenfurt, for just doing research into him O’Dimm imprisoned him in a “Protective Circle” which really meant death should he leave it. What’s worse is the old man’s journal showed what O’Dimm did to him before his death. He was so into his own research that his life passed him by and he lived with regrets. O’Dimm then gave him dreams of the family and daughter he never had and the dreams were so real that the old man would live just for the sweet release of sleep. This lasted for months and turned into nightmares, especially when the daughter died in his arms(brutally). O’Dimm is known as man different names but only one was consistent throughout years and years of documented cases: Evil incarnate.
You can count the number of people gaunter has played with with your fingers. And yet, you couldn’t say he only targets bad people because shakeslock doesn’t fit into that category so you created a totally new category ‘people who peak too much’. The entire point of the expansion is that GoD is inherently evil, the incarnate, the embodiment of it.
Gaunter O’Dimm also posed as a Nilfgaardian soldier, approached the Usurper and convinced him to overthrow Fergus var Emreis and take Nilfgaard’s throne.
...actually...God can create a parrellel universe in which he can create a stone to heavy for him to lift while also having a universe inwhich there is no stone to heavy for him to lift. This paradox was presented before multiple universe theories. (I'm not religious, this is just my thoughts on the paradox).(Also, great video, one of my favorite villains and you did him justice).
So many things I like in his character design like the fact that just like with the Unseen Elder all our gear, Witcher tricks and mastery of swordfighting are useless. Or the fact that we can simply allow him to proceed and even get a reward for it, all fair and square. The words he speaks when defeated and the fact these are actual languages and not a gibberish. The fact that he is most likely the devil - but we never know for sure. And so much more.
If you think Olgierd was evil before summoning Gaunter. You clearly missed important parts of the story. Olgierd was a completely different person. Even Geralt acknowledges it, when walking past a portrait of him made by iris. Gaunter doesn’t wait for people to summon him. Gaunter pushes himself into their lives.
Clearly you missed important parts of the story. Olgierd killed Iris' father. He even killed his brother. He intentionally called evil forces upon himself. He knew well what he was doing, yet he still did it. You know why he pushed the statue right when you meet him the first time? Because he lost interest in this, and why? Because he has a heart of stone. And why does he have a heart of stone? Because he wished to be immortal and selfishly destroyed lives of many. He isn't the good guy, but nor is Gaunter O'Dimm
@@patrikmatousek5450 what a dumb comment. He turned into a bad person because of Gaunter’s tricks. He didn’t wished for a heart of stone. Both Olgierd and Iris planned TOGETHER the wishes. He even says it clearly. Everything turned bad after Gaunter’s involvement. He didn’t wish things only for him… both iris and Olgierd planned to benefit from the “wishes”.
@@brandonlinares3196 He may not have been as evil as after Gaunter's involvement, but he certainly was *not* a good person. If he was a kind good person (according to you), why did he kill Iris' father? It was an incident, but he still threw him against a wall. What I'm saying is you're right, Gaunter O'Dimm made him evil (after all, it's Gaunter's goal to show people's evilness) but Olgierd von Everec wasn't a good person even before the pact between O'Dimm occured. He wasn't warm hearted
@@patrikmatousek5450 yes We can agree that he wasn’t a good guy* but turned evil after Gaunter’s bargain. In my opinion. He was less than a bad person compared to the Barron. During the dlc, he’s just as bad as emperor Emhyr and at the end of the game, he’s just as bad as fringilla Vigo (blood and wine good ending)
Honestly I think the easiest way to tell that he is the Devil is that meet up in the bar when he stops time. Geralt asks: You're not human that's clear. So what are you, a demon, a jinn? And after Gaunter warns him he doesn't want to know says. Gaunter: All who have learned my true name are either dead or have met an even worse fate. The way he approaches that seems it's not that Geralt shouldn't know WHAT he is. But WHO he is.
One thing missed by a lot of people saying his initials are G.O.D is that he isn’t saying he’s god he’s mocking god. He’s “master mirror” almost as if he’s trying to mirror god, but in an evil way. That’s why he calls himself Gaunter O’Dim, the god initials are a reflection(mirror) of god almost like he’s the opposite. Master mirror, the reflection of god.
this was probably the most interesting character in the entire game because i had forgotten who this character was after beating the main story and then he showed up saying we've met before and i could not for the life of me remember him at all.
I believe he is the Devil of the Witcher universe, but he is able to walk the world in physical form, existing on both the physical and metaphysical. He wants souls, but no one knows why he explicitly wants souls. He could possibly even be a Dark Lord character akin to Morgoth and Sauron in Tolkien’s Legendarium, like Sauron does with taking on the form of Annatar, Gaunter takes on the form of an unassuming mirror merchant or vagrant. Like Morgoth he disappears into the void upon defeat, but unlike Morgoth who was physically banished to the void, Gaunter is utterly destroyed by the light, burning into the void. I think it’s simple that he is the Devil, especially with his personality, he’s incredibly prideful and flaunts his power, but he doesn’t want his true nature revealed, which makes me believe he could be a Dark Lord type figure, gathering strength through the souls he takes, but also like Demons in Abrahamic faiths, his true name may give people power over him, and he can be banished. I don’t recall Djinn desiring souls however.
As a transient being by nature, it is hard to decide what is what, and it takes an extremely analytical mind to perceive the over/under laying truth. The human mind is easy to trick, especially the ones aren't well verse in this subject😏
Love the video, and of course we would not love but crave that hour long video about him. I personally think that he actually is the god of the universe, although most definitely not good. The way he is doing things although, for me, seem like he is bored by everything, hence why he limits himself with the contracts etc.
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The parallel with historical witch trial is wrong, the inquisition burned surprisingly few people, usually on substantiated charges of poisoning and pagan rituals associated with devil worship ( anything non christian was considered devil worship, pagan gods were considered superior demons ) barely a hundred women were burned. In turn hundred did get tortured to abjure their pagan faith and cease their alchemist practices. Most of the inquisition works was about chastising deviant pratices amongs the priesthood itself. Most witchcraft accusation were rejected by local priests has ill-motivated. Jalousy, vengeance, and greed were the main motives. It was also a common pratice to accuse criminals of un christian pratices at a tribunal, warranting their execution, but it was done to explain their ill behavior and give an excuse to execute them. Joan of Arc was famous because its the most popular, unfair and rare instance of witch burning of history. 🔥
Gaunter O'Dimm. G.O.D. Master mirror. Mirror is reflection. Reflection of god is Devil. But why he need souls so bad? My theory is it is some kind of subordinate creation connected to actual devil who needs collect souls to him.
I don't know what to think of Gaunter O'Dimm. I suppose I don't find him terribly unnerving. He might not be entirely evil. After countless lifetimes and countless encounters, putting a spoon into someone's brain for being irritating might not be such a big deal to a person.
@@Nathan_Coley This idea has no ground though. In that universe there's no "one god" or "one devil". There is a multiverse with multiple planes of existence though. "Master Mirror" is a extraplanar creature, the most deeply-ingrained monster in the world that Geralt has ever faced, but still just a creature, even if a powerful one.
That's just to throw viewers off. Think about it, Lucifer wants to be God and treated as such even though he is not God. To mortals yes Guanter is God, he wants us to seem him as such because it's amusing to him but he isn't God. In the religious world many people believe that the many deities of different religions are themselves fallen angels just pretending to be gods due to us mortals being easily impressed by their feats of the super natural but they are not God so there are limits to what they can do, just as Gaunter has pointed out about himself. If Guanter was truly God he could end bring someone to the moon by just creating a mini moon under their feet however the devil (Satan, lucifer, which ever you prefer) is still just an angel therefore him being the devil or something ease works with jinns belasically being that. What the djinns we have come to know are just lesser djinns while Guanter I'd a true Djinn. Take him controlling time, someone theorized that if you listen to what he said he had to teach himself to manipulate time but he never said he can actually control time. The theory goes that he may be able to speed up peoples movement through time but not actually control time itself. Basically like how the flash operates with the ability to choose who is also affected by it afterall which would be the easier feat: learning how to freeze time in the whole universe or just making you and another individual move faster than time effectively to the point your are out running time. For arguments sake let's say he actually stop time, how do we know there isn't a range to it where only a certain radius can actually be effected? Obviously you can retort how do we know there is one but we do know he states there are things that he cannot do meaning things outside his power but no true God would say that unless said God is a lesser or part of a pantheon of other gods. We have to also consider how easy it is to say he is God. Geralt is not stupid, a simple acronym like that would have been something he would have pieced together quickly and would have just straight up asked which likely would have got amusement from Gaunter and he would have told yes in a round about way but that would so easy destroy the impact of the character for the answer to be so simple.
I think he's a fallen angel. Ie part of some eldritch/divine race that fell from grace or came to this world on his own accord. There's probably others like him that we don't see.
Actually the gin you speak of are called gene (like in Aladdin), gin are different myths all together. More similar to the succubus creatures in the game (half man half goat, said to remain young till death yet not immortal)
One thing about inquisition stick to the witcher lore not history since inquisition inveneted legal standards just because of cases you mentioned so for example if someone were to accuse someone else of witchcraft they would have to provide 2 legitimate witnesses to testiylfy also there were standards what evidence could be included
Ah, he's holding an apple. Probably a reference to the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil from Genesis 3. That would seem to connect him with Satan/the Devil, but given the hostility this game seems to have against God and Christianity, I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to imply that God and the Devil are the same entity. Perhaps that is why they made his "initials" G O D. (On a separate note, that old "Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it" thing is bad philosophy. A proper understanding of God's omnipotence is that God cannot do anything that is logically impossible or that would detract from his nature or character. For example, God cannot cease to exist. In other words, God cannot do anything that would make him less perfect, and that needs to be understood when considering rock creating/lifting. More could be said.)
@@fleetwheelmac6978 If that is true, then human beings cannot know anything about God, and you would have just violated your own maxim. However, God is able to make himself known to people through revelation, and he has said that there are some things he cannot do. For example, God has indicated through Scripture that he cannot lie or go against his own nature (Hebrews 6:18, 2 Timothy 2:13). These limitations, however, do not detract from his greatness, but they contribute to it.
ok stop right there, denouncing someone heretic didn't get them burned at the stake in just a few hours. Only half of the documented cases ended in a buring.
Gaunter O’Dimm. Who is he?
A devil creature.
Probably dandelion
Master mirror, the devil himself 👿
The old man from Scene 24?
@@TristanMundell "A" devil. A creature from the plane of hell.
This is one character I hope never gets fully explained by cdpr his mystery is part of why he's so interesting its like in any good horror story, the best ones never fully explain the entities.
Too rich of a character. I agree... Just more antics please
@@nubiancaynes2128it would be cool to have some vague hints just to make you ask more questions. It would be cool to see him mess with Geralt using a chess board of other people just to bring him back in. He's does seem to actually like and be intrigued by Geralt.
I like how after Geralt beats him and he's disappearing into the void, he calmly just talks shit and essentially is saying "whatever, you'ra a pussy and you don't really win."
classic demon shit talk
@fernosbonos5394
So What are you a demon ?
Isn’t it funny when gaunter dissappears the people near say like what the devil or smth like that
yeah that's blasphemy, since he's a devil.
The whole twisted deals on first impressions made me really think of the whole deals with demons and deals with the devil stories.
the whole spoon in the eye scene is still unsettling to this day, that was my oh shit moment in the witcher 3
Same. I feel like the fly png ruined it though haha
That’s when I went “yea I’m not siding with this dude” and I even knew I’d get the best saddle
I just finished the expansion, this was so well timed
Sounds like Master Mirror works again.
He's absolutely the devil. He makes deals for souls, he has serpent eyes in the last cutscene, he loves to meddle in human affairs to the detriment of everyone but him, and he espouses morals of freedom and hedonism.
Ochams razor, whatever explanation requires the fewedt assumptions is probably correct.
You also meet him at a crossroad at night. Very devil sounding
@@revan5293 yeah, they clearly gave him flavor from other cultures to add a bit of obscurity, but the core is undeniably the devil.
What do you mean by “The Devil” sir? Theres basically no culture on earth that recognizes a single evil entity. Especially not one that calls them “The Devil”
@@fuzzythoughts8020wdym “other cultures” there’s no one culture that the idea of a devil or demon comes from.
The spoon in the eye scene alongside him threatening to take Olgierd's brother Vlodimir "with him" shows us that if he chooses to he doesn't have to abide by any rules whatsoever, and that he only does so because HE imposes them on himself, and why does he do it? He himself tells us in the scene with the gingerbread. Because then the "gingerbread" is missing a crucial ingredient for him. If he just takes souls (which he absolutely could) he gets no satisfaction from it. The games he plays with his victims and in turn the time it takes him to win them is what gives him joy from taking souls. But he also makes it possible for him to be beaten otherwise the game isn't fair, and to him that would make the souls not worth taking as well. It's so subtle in the writing I don't think I ever saw something like this ever not just in video games but in all the books and shows and movies I consumed in my life, CDPR writers deserve to lauded as the best out there not just in video games but of all storytelling mediums.
Also just as an anecdote in original myths especially the original Aladdin Djinns actually had unlimited wishes, the 3 wishes limit thing was popularised by Western adaptations probably "The Thief of Bagdad" and completely cemented by Disney. The only "older" legend that has 3 wishes is that of the golden fish and the fisherman but that's because the fish is caught by the fisherman 3 times offering any wish in return for its freedom. In The Last Wish Geralt catching the Djinn's seal while fishing is a throwback to that tale as well.
Vlodimir is part of the pact tho wasnt he? Olgierd sacrificed him that is why Gaunter is able to torture his ghost.
@@NexFriday1345 No reason to think that. Vlodimir was not part of the pact he was a victim of it sacrificed by Olgierd. but his death was "natural" his soul was not taken he never agreed to give it up but Gaunter still threatens to do it which means he is capable of doing it. Also no I HIGHLY doubt Gaunter can only torture his ghost because Olgierd sacrificed the scene was entirely a demonstration of the extent of his power showing he is able to torture the dead. Your argument would be applicable if Vlodomir was in Gaunter's "realm" where he takes his souls but he isn't
@@yairsofer8933 Youre right been a long time since i played the game
@@yairsofer8933 Just some things that make me wonder tho if Gaunter O, Dim is a very powerful god, demon, djinn, or whatever he is and treats the witcher universe as a game or a playground to just have fun and do whatever he wants, and he knows everything. Why didn't he go after Ciri, Yennefer, or Eredin and take advantage of their desparation, make a deal with any of them-Ciri fleeing the wild hunt, renouncing her gift, or Yennefer trying to find Ciri like Eredin? Those would be great opportunities for him, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't choose to do so unless he does have limitations. Moreover, having the soul of someone with the elder blood or child of prophecy would be a great achievement for his game, I reckon.
Sorry for my English; it is not my first language.
@@NexFriday1345 no problem about the English it's not my first language either.
The thing CDPR was going with when it comes to Gaunter O'Dimm is that he also has lovecraftian influences meaning we do not know or understand his motives maybe it's even impossible for us to understand them. What it appears to be is that Gaunter also "mirrors" his attitude depending on who he talks to, and people he deems as evil are the ones he wants their souls and punish them the most he doesn't care who they are but only WHAT they are (evil in his eyes or not), notice how he always talks very kindly to Geralt vs how he talks to and about Olgierd calling him a "monster in human flesh" and Olgierd is a bad dude let's not pretend. though Gaunter has no qualms about taking the lives of people who are not necessarily like that when he kills the old man with the spoon and also has no problem taking Geralt's soul but it's only after Geralt asks him to make a deal. We also see this in Blood and Wine where Gaunter Marlene to become a Wight because he deemed her a bad person we see he chooses to punish people that he thinks are evil. We know Gaunter is capable of knowing the future and altering events like the world is his toy he knew Geralt would find Ciri and stop the Wild Hunt and the White Frost. As I said we can't assume his motive as a being that is essentially a god (again Lovecraftian influence) but we can maybe say that he chose to not get involved because he knew how things would go down, AND that Yen and Ciri are not evil so he doesn't seek to punish them. We know next to nothing about him but what we can be sure about is that the only limits he has are self imposed because he chooses to do it. Why we don't know and probably never know
Such an unsettling character. Always felt uneasy around him. Even though I couldn’t stand Olgeird I would always save him because I couldn’t side with Gaunter
Me to man. Watching Olgeird ruin his marriage and life just for money and status is one of those life lessons I am so glad I learned early. I tried selling my soul to the devil for a woman and so glad it didn’t work like I had wanted. Lol
Great video. I would like to add that Twardowski's mirror can be seen in a church in Węgrów in Poland. It is specially suspended high so that you can not look through it 😊.
I think he's some sort of eldritch being like Nyarlathotep. His motivations and nature are simply beyond understanding and his sense of morality is very different from ours. He's not as much truly evil as he is just curious and bored. There are a couple videos by a channel called "Proper Bird" which I think outline my thoughts almost perfectly.
Also yes I'd love a huge Master Mirror video!
Master Mirror tends to reflect the evil of a person or lack of in the deals he makes. I do take umbrage though to his comparison to Fring, the Man of Glass has a healthy sense of humor, far more than Gus.
As for the Spotted Wright, she violated the Toussantian right of hospitality, paid the price, and that later gave Geralt a reagent from an otherwise extinct creature that without would have seriously complicated Geralt's journey and life in many ways. Master Mirror directs Geralt to the garrison in White Orchard to find Yen, saves Geralt on the ship, filicates the supply of a rare reagent a century in advance to it being needed, can help Geralt to find Ciri, and if asked at the right time will tell Geralt how to make sure Ciri survives.
Is Master Mirror evil? Yes, at least some of the time or perhaps mischievous or something akin to. Evil incarnate? In my opinion no or why would he have helped stop The White Frost and been generally beneficial to Geralt over all? Just some food for thought.
Alex Norton is far too good an actor to have played only a cameo role for what would have been a forgettable character, and it's largely his performance that makes Gaunter O'Dimm such a great character. He absolutely nails the polite condescension, and brings a unique charisma to him. As for the character though, I hope we are never given a conclusive answer because the mystery is as much a part of the character as anything else. Give us a definitive answer as to who he is and you diminish the character.
I hope Alex reprises his role and Gaunter makes appearances in future Witcher games.
The kids singing the song mannnn. One of the coolest characters. me personally I think he’s the devil. This whole thing just reminds me of making a deal with the devil at like a crossroad somewhere and you know.
His initials are GOD
guess what god backwards reads as?
@@jordanzdebski5132lol 😂
And he describes himself as a “merchant of mirrors”. When I first played the game and became intrigued by the character, that implied to me that he’s saying he’s the opposite of “god”
Well made video. No nonsense bullshit to make the vid longer, he gave the information right away. You gained a new subscriber ❤
I personally think that he might be a god, not the god but one of them because I don't remember anyone in The Witcher universe saying "god" in singular it's always "gods" in plural and I like to believe that he is some kind of "fallen god" or whatever similarly to Lucifer being The Fallen Angel and that the 3 wishes thing is either his way of having fun or it's somehow tied to his god thingy, like Ares is the god of war, Hades the god of the dead etc. something like that.
One theme of Gaunter O’Dimm that I extremely like is how he only targets bad people or people who peak around too much. Olgierd is the leader of a band of bandits who murdered and destroyed villages, Marlene refused to feed the beggar-disguised Gaunter despite tradition demands her so, Professor Shakelock was too close to finding out Gaunter O’Dimm’s identity,… he doesn’t just randomly targets innocent individuals. Even in Geralt’s case, he only offered to help Geralt with a price and even gave Geralt a tip after the deed.
Actually Olgierd isn’t the monster he’s often made out to be. If you really look into it, Geralt doesn’t even meet the real Olgierd until after Hearts of Stone. Gaunter O’Dimm is able to phrase things to make himself seem the victim while really he twists his words to make it seem like he’s playing fair. Take the old man in Oxenfurt, for just doing research into him O’Dimm imprisoned him in a “Protective Circle” which really meant death should he leave it. What’s worse is the old man’s journal showed what O’Dimm did to him before his death. He was so into his own research that his life passed him by and he lived with regrets. O’Dimm then gave him dreams of the family and daughter he never had and the dreams were so real that the old man would live just for the sweet release of sleep. This lasted for months and turned into nightmares, especially when the daughter died in his arms(brutally). O’Dimm is known as man different names but only one was consistent throughout years and years of documented cases: Evil incarnate.
You can count the number of people gaunter has played with with your fingers. And yet, you couldn’t say he only targets bad people because shakeslock doesn’t fit into that category so you created a totally new category ‘people who peak too much’.
The entire point of the expansion is that GoD is inherently evil, the incarnate, the embodiment of it.
Gaunter O’Dimm also posed as a Nilfgaardian soldier, approached the Usurper and convinced him to overthrow Fergus var Emreis and take Nilfgaard’s throne.
Gaunter manufactured the conditions that put Geralt in peril, forcing him to assist Gaunter or be executed.
Olgierd's story is relatable. Anyone who truly loves would sacrifice everything for love, even make a pact with the devil. It's wrong, but it's human.
But you wouldn’t give up your balls, that’s not true love
Vlodimir : 💀
...actually...God can create a parrellel universe in which he can create a stone to heavy for him to lift while also having a universe inwhich there is no stone to heavy for him to lift. This paradox was presented before multiple universe theories. (I'm not religious, this is just my thoughts on the paradox).(Also, great video, one of my favorite villains and you did him justice).
So many things I like in his character design like the fact that just like with the Unseen Elder all our gear, Witcher tricks and mastery of swordfighting are useless.
Or the fact that we can simply allow him to proceed and even get a reward for it, all fair and square.
The words he speaks when defeated and the fact these are actual languages and not a gibberish.
The fact that he is most likely the devil - but we never know for sure.
And so much more.
If you think Olgierd was evil before summoning Gaunter. You clearly missed important parts of the story.
Olgierd was a completely different person. Even Geralt acknowledges it, when walking past a portrait of him made by iris.
Gaunter doesn’t wait for people to summon him. Gaunter pushes himself into their lives.
Clearly you missed important parts of the story. Olgierd killed Iris' father. He even killed his brother. He intentionally called evil forces upon himself. He knew well what he was doing, yet he still did it. You know why he pushed the statue right when you meet him the first time? Because he lost interest in this, and why? Because he has a heart of stone. And why does he have a heart of stone? Because he wished to be immortal and selfishly destroyed lives of many. He isn't the good guy, but nor is Gaunter O'Dimm
@@patrikmatousek5450 what a dumb comment.
He turned into a bad person because of Gaunter’s tricks. He didn’t wished for a heart of stone. Both Olgierd and Iris planned TOGETHER the wishes.
He even says it clearly. Everything turned bad after Gaunter’s involvement. He didn’t wish things only for him… both iris and Olgierd planned to benefit from the “wishes”.
@@brandonlinares3196 He may not have been as evil as after Gaunter's involvement, but he certainly was *not* a good person. If he was a kind good person (according to you), why did he kill Iris' father? It was an incident, but he still threw him against a wall. What I'm saying is you're right, Gaunter O'Dimm made him evil (after all, it's Gaunter's goal to show people's evilness) but Olgierd von Everec wasn't a good person even before the pact between O'Dimm occured. He wasn't warm hearted
@@patrikmatousek5450 yes
We can agree that he wasn’t a good guy* but turned evil after Gaunter’s bargain.
In my opinion. He was less than a bad person compared to the Barron. During the dlc, he’s just as bad as emperor Emhyr and at the end of the game, he’s just as bad as fringilla Vigo (blood and wine good ending)
Honestly I think the easiest way to tell that he is the Devil is that meet up in the bar when he stops time.
Geralt asks: You're not human that's clear. So what are you, a demon, a jinn?
And after Gaunter warns him he doesn't want to know says.
Gaunter: All who have learned my true name are either dead or have met an even worse fate.
The way he approaches that seems it's not that Geralt shouldn't know WHAT he is. But WHO he is.
One thing missed by a lot of people saying his initials are G.O.D is that he isn’t saying he’s god he’s mocking god. He’s “master mirror” almost as if he’s trying to mirror god, but in an evil way. That’s why he calls himself Gaunter O’Dim, the god initials are a reflection(mirror) of god almost like he’s the opposite. Master mirror, the reflection of god.
this was probably the most interesting character in the entire game because i had forgotten who this character was after beating the main story and then he showed up saying we've met before and i could not for the life of me remember him at all.
he says "you think you have defeated me? no you are mistaken" in georgian
I’m loving this content!!! I appreciate your obvious storytelling skills. Good stuff!!
I don't want to know. O'Dimm warned us all, that's one wish we shouldn't try to fulfill. Never.
All of those really wealthy pastors, they have met a man of mirrors.
I believe he is the Devil of the Witcher universe, but he is able to walk the world in physical form, existing on both the physical and metaphysical. He wants souls, but no one knows why he explicitly wants souls. He could possibly even be a Dark Lord character akin to Morgoth and Sauron in Tolkien’s Legendarium, like Sauron does with taking on the form of Annatar, Gaunter takes on the form of an unassuming mirror merchant or vagrant. Like Morgoth he disappears into the void upon defeat, but unlike Morgoth who was physically banished to the void, Gaunter is utterly destroyed by the light, burning into the void. I think it’s simple that he is the Devil, especially with his personality, he’s incredibly prideful and flaunts his power, but he doesn’t want his true nature revealed, which makes me believe he could be a Dark Lord type figure, gathering strength through the souls he takes, but also like Demons in Abrahamic faiths, his true name may give people power over him, and he can be banished. I don’t recall Djinn desiring souls however.
Nice. New Old Witcher to wrap up my Saturday after work.
Merci for the content
As a transient being by nature, it is hard to decide what is what, and it takes an extremely analytical mind to perceive the over/under laying truth. The human mind is easy to trick, especially the ones aren't well verse in this subject😏
1:12 oh thats a tree waving in the wind.😮
I thought ODimm had tentacles coming out of him. Like "what fckn edition is this!?"😅😂
I hope we will see Gaunter again in Witcher 4.
Pretty sure Leland Gaunt was Walter O'Dim/Martin Broadcloak/Randell Flagg
Love the video, and of course we would not love but crave that hour long video about him.
I personally think that he actually is the god of the universe, although most definitely not good. The way he is doing things although, for me, seem like he is bored by everything, hence why he limits himself with the contracts etc.
The parallel with historical witch trial is wrong, the inquisition burned surprisingly few people, usually on substantiated charges of poisoning and pagan rituals associated with devil worship ( anything non christian was considered devil worship, pagan gods were considered superior demons ) barely a hundred women were burned. In turn hundred did get tortured to abjure their pagan faith and cease their alchemist practices. Most of the inquisition works was about chastising deviant pratices amongs the priesthood itself. Most witchcraft accusation were rejected by local priests has ill-motivated. Jalousy, vengeance, and greed were the main motives. It was also a common pratice to accuse criminals of un christian pratices at a tribunal, warranting their execution, but it was done to explain their ill behavior and give an excuse to execute them. Joan of Arc was famous because its the most popular, unfair and rare instance of witch burning of history. 🔥
Gaunter O'Dimm. G.O.D. Master mirror. Mirror is reflection. Reflection of god is Devil. But why he need souls so bad? My theory is it is some kind of subordinate creation connected to actual devil who needs collect souls to him.
He’s the devil, the whole story is based on Geothe’s Faust
I don't know what to think of Gaunter O'Dimm. I suppose I don't find him terribly unnerving. He might not be entirely evil. After countless lifetimes and countless encounters, putting a spoon into someone's brain for being irritating might not be such a big deal to a person.
Not just a devil but The Devil.
Edit: Would watch a multiple hour long about Mr O'Dimm.
correction, not "the" devil but "a" devil. A creature from hell among others.
@@Bene_Singularis No I personally think he is The Devil of the Witcher universe.
@@Nathan_Coley This idea has no ground though. In that universe there's no "one god" or "one devil". There is a multiverse with multiple planes of existence though. "Master Mirror" is a extraplanar creature, the most deeply-ingrained monster in the world that Geralt has ever faced, but still just a creature, even if a powerful one.
@@Bene_Singularis I'm not trying to convince anyone, it's just how I personally feel about Gaunter.
@@Nathan_ColeyGaunter's gwent card literally confirmed he's a higher demon. There's no god nor devil in The Witcher universe. Sorry, matey!
really hope they expand on gaunter o dim in the next games
his initials spelling G.O.D. is just unsettling in the context of his character
What’s the song at the start of the video
Am I the only one who thinks O Dimm looks like Jake Gyllenhall
If I ever figure out Redkit, I'ma reach out for you to voice one of my NPC's :)))
He’s the Witcher version of God a mix of good and evil
I think O'Dimm is either an extremely powerful demon or an evil demigod.
Gaunter is basically a typical Scorpio
I thought Gaunter was a great character. I didn't even think of him as really evil. I happily gave Olgierd to him.
Started pretty good, but lost me with superficial judgment of Olgierd. Decent effort though
I really hope he comes back in the Witcher 4
Gaunter O'Dimm is the Gman of The Witcher series.
Gunther ‘o’ Dimm if you make an acronym out of the first letters of his name, you’ll get your answer.
That's just to throw viewers off. Think about it, Lucifer wants to be God and treated as such even though he is not God. To mortals yes Guanter is God, he wants us to seem him as such because it's amusing to him but he isn't God. In the religious world many people believe that the many deities of different religions are themselves fallen angels just pretending to be gods due to us mortals being easily impressed by their feats of the super natural but they are not God so there are limits to what they can do, just as Gaunter has pointed out about himself. If Guanter was truly God he could end bring someone to the moon by just creating a mini moon under their feet however the devil (Satan, lucifer, which ever you prefer) is still just an angel therefore him being the devil or something ease works with jinns belasically being that. What the djinns we have come to know are just lesser djinns while Guanter I'd a true Djinn.
Take him controlling time, someone theorized that if you listen to what he said he had to teach himself to manipulate time but he never said he can actually control time. The theory goes that he may be able to speed up peoples movement through time but not actually control time itself. Basically like how the flash operates with the ability to choose who is also affected by it afterall which would be the easier feat: learning how to freeze time in the whole universe or just making you and another individual move faster than time effectively to the point your are out running time. For arguments sake let's say he actually stop time, how do we know there isn't a range to it where only a certain radius can actually be effected? Obviously you can retort how do we know there is one but we do know he states there are things that he cannot do meaning things outside his power but no true God would say that unless said God is a lesser or part of a pantheon of other gods.
We have to also consider how easy it is to say he is God. Geralt is not stupid, a simple acronym like that would have been something he would have pieced together quickly and would have just straight up asked which likely would have got amusement from Gaunter and he would have told yes in a round about way but that would so easy destroy the impact of the character for the answer to be so simple.
CD Projekt Red built gaunter o'dimm so well
I think he's a fallen angel.
Ie part of some eldritch/divine race that fell from grace or came to this world on his own accord.
There's probably others like him that we don't see.
How about breakings 4th wall ??
Actually the gin you speak of are called gene (like in Aladdin), gin are different myths all together. More similar to the succubus creatures in the game (half man half goat, said to remain young till death yet not immortal)
Hello,
Is there a nice book that covers this stuff that you would recomend. I like these stories a lot.
Sadly not. Gaunter O’Dimm is only in the games
A loki variant
Seeing how the Witcher universe is he could be a god albeit a dark one
Gaunter is supposed to look like Gus Fringe? 🤔
I dont see it.
One thing about inquisition stick to the witcher lore not history since inquisition inveneted legal standards just because of cases you mentioned so for example if someone were to accuse someone else of witchcraft they would have to provide 2 legitimate witnesses to testiylfy also there were standards what evidence could be included
More vids like this plz lol
Ah, he's holding an apple. Probably a reference to the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil from Genesis 3. That would seem to connect him with Satan/the Devil, but given the hostility this game seems to have against God and Christianity, I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to imply that God and the Devil are the same entity. Perhaps that is why they made his "initials" G O D.
(On a separate note, that old "Can God create a rock so heavy that he can't lift it" thing is bad philosophy. A proper understanding of God's omnipotence is that God cannot do anything that is logically impossible or that would detract from his nature or character. For example, God cannot cease to exist. In other words, God cannot do anything that would make him less perfect, and that needs to be understood when considering rock creating/lifting. More could be said.)
The idea of a God subject to human understanding of concepts like "logic" and "perfection" is bad philosophy.
@@fleetwheelmac6978
If that is true, then human beings cannot know anything about God, and you would have just violated your own maxim. However, God is able to make himself known to people through revelation, and he has said that there are some things he cannot do. For example, God has indicated through Scripture that he cannot lie or go against his own nature (Hebrews 6:18, 2 Timothy 2:13). These limitations, however, do not detract from his greatness, but they contribute to it.
ok stop right there, denouncing someone heretic didn't get them burned at the stake in just a few hours. Only half of the documented cases ended in a buring.
The original G-O-D
Lucifer
Gaunter looks middle eastern
Yep
They are painting a picture here even in Witcher 3 ...
do it
He's the clone of the real god actually he's god
no he's a devil creature. His name is a blasphemy.
Why is still everybody debating what he is, it was already confirmed from CDPR that he is Mephisto long time ago.