Transfer bar drag EDUCATIONAL ONLY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- I'm a professional this video is only for education purposes DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS VIDEO!!!Johnny explains where it's located, why it occurs, and how it can be remedied. This is addressed on his slide and frame prep video. However as this area is one of the major ares that creates drag in pull and return he wanted to make it more easily accessible for clients and Glock trigger enthusiasts. There is also other information on the Glock trigger bar specifically the Gen 4 bump on the vertical extension.
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I don’t own any glocks, but recently gotten into the Polymer 80’s compact and full size. Your videos have great detail and have taught me a lot about my builds. Keep up the good work Sir 👍🏻🇺🇸
I smoothed & polished my transfer bar/ connector interface. My "-" connector was quite rippled from manufacturing. I also bent the cruciform 90° to the bar looking forward. The striker pawl was riding off to the right after release. Carefully ground a flat edge on the cruciform sear too.
Huge difference!
Your vids are awesome.
Smooth, predictable trigger.
your the first person that I have seen that warns that the spring has to be in the groove. well done.
Johnny Glocks.... wow this video really helped. I have a gen 4 19 that had a very mushy trigger, no defined wall and would barely let the trigger reset enough to let the trigger safety work. I thought by changing out the trigger connector it would fix the problem. It didn’t. I’ve tried multiple trigger connectors. ghost edge 3.5 , ghost ultimate 3.5 and Glock OEM 3.5 connectors with some minor results. After watching and bending and tweaking the trigger connectors I achieved a much better and cleaner pull. I settled on the Glock OEM 3.5 connector. Now I have very smooth pull with no drag, nice defined wall and a clean snappy break(which I prefer) also the trigger resets perfectly now with a very audible and tactile feel. Thank you for the info !!!
Geez Johnny, I think you know ore about Glocks than Glock! Even 5 years later these videos are impactful and most informative. I have a new series I'm binging and I really don't binge.
"Johnny Glocks!!" Wow.
Gotta say man, I stumbled onto your page while trying to troubleshoot trigger issues and ended up learning 10x more than I thought I needed. You're the man! And all the knowledge you share with us is more than appreciated.
Thanks again for all you do Johnny! I have learned a ton from watching your vids over and and over again. After spending countless hours watching bogus misinformed and sometimes dangerous information concerning Glocks and how they tick; you sir are the real deal and my go to for truth. Please keep up the great information and taking what you do to an art form and sharing your wisdom with us.
I used 3 layers of duct tape stacked attached to the frame in front of the transfer bar to remove all pretravel....I thought screws and glue/whatnot was ridiculous and tape can be removed instantly. It does a really good job and it always resets.
That's definitely a way to do it
Thank you so much for this video. Tweaking that bar did the trick for me.
I've been looking at your videos your videos make a lot of sense compared to a lot of other people I own two Glocks and your videos been a lot of help to me to take care of my Glocks the right way and do the things the right way thank you very much God bless
Thank you for the info. Since watching you and others, i have taken interest in working on my glocks. Ive got my G30 gen 3 trigger really nice and smooth with a ghost 3.3lb pro trigger connector and lighter trigger plunger spring and a gen 3 trigger bar and polished.
I just installed the ghost 3.5lb evo trigger connector on my G19 last night and noticed its smoother, but not as nice as the 3.3lb Pro connector. I might need a lighter trigger plunger spring as well. Everything else is stock. Back to tinkering...
Again thank you for the wonderful videos.
Po Isbell Happy to hear? Keep it up 👍👍👍
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Thank you I need to see if that’s what has happened. I installed a 3.5 connector in my G26 gen 5 and I do believe the trigger pull is less smooth and more psi
Got my 42 trigger pull down to 5.5 to 6 lbs with diligent polishing. So more rounds to see where it settles in.
It has a shorter take up than my 19 which is 5.to 5.5 lbs My 42 was purchased earlier this year. Enjoy your very real approach to triggers.
Per your comment in an earlier video ...3.5 pounds is scary light in a carry gun.
Have aPPQ 45 which is 4.5 and that is aboutaslow asI feel okay with
Joe Gondo
I agree keep the poundage up
No such thing as a Johnny Glocks video that is “too long”. The longer the better
I don't see 85 degree angle I see more than 90 degrees like 92 to 95 degrees for the connector. When the stock connector comes from the factory it's probably 95 degrees or more before bending it into your suggested setting . If it was 90 degrees it would be flush with the trigger housing you don't want that. So I just think that you miscommunicated what you meant, which seems to happen often in your videos, or digressing different directions at times. But thank you for your videos!
85 = 95 = 275 etc. just depends on what direction and what side of the axis you start from.
Hello. What is the difference, in terms of performance, between an inward curved connector and an outwardly curved connector. Thanks very much for your videos
I’m still waiting for my Johny Glock binary trigger!
What do you think about the connectors with a over-travel stop that has to be filed down to fit your gun
Gen 5 G17 did away with the dimple on the vertical extension. I can definitely feel the bar drag on the side of the polymer frame. What do you do on the Gen 5/G17 for this drag? Break the edges on the polymer via Flitz and a dremel with felt wheel, and polish the bar? I see the bar does not more 100% true front to back, it has a little side motion, or the frame isn't parallel and the bar hits the frame because the frame is angled a little bit.
What do the newer Gen 4 trigger bar (3600) and trigger housing (5357) improve over the original parts?
What happens if you shave the area flat in 5:55?
Well done!
@JOHNNY GLOCKS Hi! My Glock-19 GEN4 trigger shoe is walking out. Just got it last week and never been fired. Just had it dry fired several times then I saw the pin protruding that it made a dent on the frame. I need some advice. Thanks!
What is the draw back of transfer bar drag?
Does that equal primer drag?
Just asking, I'm still learning about Glocks.
My BL G35 has a 4.5lb fixed trigger. Every other Glock I own has a 5.5lb fixed. What part would be different? The Connector? Trigger bar angle? Thanks I’m advance.
Yes the 35 has a minus connector those other guns have standard connectors
Thanks, JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona.
My pf9ss trigger won't fire with the slide on
I like your videos Jonny I am taking the Glock armorers course like you did do you think it was Worth it or did you pretty much have a good understanding before it
I could have taught the course myself. However I look at things with the perspective of unless I open my mind to the possibilities of seeing things fresh I may miss out on something totally "worth" it. Beginners mind they call call it.
Would excessive drag cause a failure to return to battery?
Does time ever change connector bar angles with a lot of use? Or, do they mostly stay the same?
Pretty much stay the same
Keep it up, love the info. Learning a lot. Btw, are you in Venice Florida?
Yes sir the shop is in Venice
Have u seen on the gen 5’s the trigger bar dragging against the ambi slide stop? If so any suggestions...
I’m about to straight up cut off that side because I am having this issue and I never use my right side slide catch
How can the trigger be "at the wall" without passing or defeating the striker plunger safety? Always wanted to ask that question? btw, you do amazing work. Thanks
Roy D
there is a scallop cut into the vertical extension which keeps that safety %100 engaged.
Thanks for answering. Maybe you could illustrate that sometime in a future.
Is there a remedy to the trigger bar rubbing against the frame in a gen 3? (Actually I have a P80 build, which uses gen 3 parts.) I can see the frame bulging out (and even the slide shift ever so slightly) when pulling the trigger. I think this is giving me a gritty pre-travel.
Who Knows? Yeah why don't you watch my video detailing the slide and frame for Johnny Glocks trigger it pretty much outlines everything you can do however since the wall of the polymer is thinner than the Glock where the long part of the transfer bar is your ultimately going to have some bulging there or Flex from the bar should I say properly
Another great vid Johnny. Thanks. I am so debating on ordering one of your comp triggers for my gen 3 g35. I currently have a vanek in there now but I feel it can be better. And by watching your vids this past year or so I see that yes it can be better. I know I need a new firing pin, I bought this gun used and the previous owner has a titanium pin in there and it has some gouge marks toward the part that hits the primer. But it still seems to work smoothly. Anyway I'm still debating between you trigger group and zev and dk customs. Just don't know which one to go with yet.
A Thomas
Go with mine I dial it in so it drops in perfect
JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona that's what i like about yours i know you can customize it to my liking using factory parts and i love that. I think the only reason i like the zev is bc of the shoe, i like the aluminum and flat face. if i were to go with yours can i change the trigger shoe to an alum one? or even a flat trigger like the overwatch trigger or agency? not sure if i like the suarez you showed on another vid, have heard bad things on thier drop in like the drop safety not working.but of course if you build it im sure itll be 100. thanks for the quick reply.
A Thomas
if you buy and send me the shoe I'll build it with the shoe. I would suggest the ZEV as it is set screw adjustable and will be WAY WAY WAY better than any flat face.
JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona with that would i just get the trigger bar from zev? or order a shoe like the keneti tech one at www.kineti-tech.com/glock-triggers-1/ just not sure if theirs has set screws.
JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona either way i think i have settled on getting one from you now lol. just need some time to get funds together as i do want to send the pistol to you to fit it. also to tighten the slide back up, last time i did it was around 5-6000 rounds ago and the front end is loose again. but anyway as soon as i get the funds i will be giving you a call.
So can you file down some of that polymer in that area or is that a big no-no??
Thomas Gibbs Smooth down the sharp edges. Don’t remove the polymer entirely, it’ll cause trigger malfunctions.
Badass!
Great explanation. But, one thing I'm still fuzzy on: I was just about to "smooth" those polymer struts a bit, especially the one in back, but I have the Gen 4 bar which is supposed to keep it from rubbing. Should I still do that even if I see no wear. It can't hurt, right?
Mean Gene
it can hurt. if its not broken don't fix it as the saying goes. if you don't see wear just leave it. Even the rear strut as you call it in the gun in this video has wear but since I'm changing parts out I'll have to see how it wears before I do anything. a rag Polished is fine but no Dremel
Hey Johnny can you make a 43 9mm into a 45 cal ??? Or a 40 cal
Pretty sure that answer is no
Thinking about a 27. Is there any reason to get a gen 4 over the gen 3?
Brian Ferreira Sr
for the baby Glocks I would definitely definitely stay with Gen 3
JOHNNY GLOCKS the persona Thanks for the quick reply. I was leaning toward the gen 3, you confirmed it for me. I have a 17 that I want to send your way as soon as I can save up the dough.
Brian Ferreira Sr
I'm here for you when you're ready Brian
the phone number on your Website said it's been disconnected. how can I contact you?
Anselmo Garcia
941 376 4383
BTW, EVERYONE! Please see the review I gave of the Drop Bar Drop-in kit on Johnny's FaceBook page, Johnny Glocks LLC
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Bra we need a binary trigger out here man