MicroGard Select Oil Filter MSL10255 vs. PPE Oil Filter 114000760 Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- Oil Filter Inspection. #Mobil #Motorcraft #Supertech #Wix
Today we'll compare a MicroGard Select oil filter to a PPE oil filter. Let's open them up and see what's inside!
MicroGard Select MSL10255: www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/...
PPE 114000760 oil filter: ppepower.com/products/oil-fil...
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The MicroGard appears to be a much better buy than the PPE. As a side note, having worked as a Customs officer, all imported merchandise is required by law to be marked with the country of origin. If a Customs inspector had uncovered this shipment during an inspection, he would have blocked its entry into the country until each individual filter was marked with a country of origin label.
Thanks, I didnt know that👍
I emailed PPE asking where their filters are made. This is what they emailed back.
"That is a complicated question, since the materials are source and made in different country varying on the filter, They are made overseas but most of the media is from Europe while most of the body of the filters are made in Asia"
Thanks, probably Chinese made then.
I like MicroGard Select filters. They are the only filter I plan on using.
The PPE filter has one unique feature - the internal magnet. Other than that, it isn't worth $19 more than the MicroGard. It is good to see coil springs (my preference) on both filters. Of the two, I'd take the MicroGard.
Thanks, Jeff👍
The magnet is perfect for forming little bundles of joy for clogging things up.
Ive been using the Microgard Select for a couple years now and its a fantastic filter. Probably my favorite one now.
Thanks, Whip! Looks like maybe PPE needed the extra $20 to pay their marketing dept. Neat and tidy construction, which is nice to see in this day and age, but they’re asking Ferrari prices for a Honda Accord.
You're Welcome John👍
Hi Pete! Great video as always. An interesting note is the fact that all the silicone gasketed filters seem to come from Vietnam 🤔 We received a shipment of NAPA golds the other day at work...Only one box made in Vietnam and they all had silicone gaskets with no mention on the packaging. The made in Mexicos all had nitrile rubber. Just an interesting finding I wanted to share.
Hi Dan,
I've noticed that too about the gaskets,
Thanks for Sharing👍
The PPE isn't bad, but that price is killer. I've exclusively switched to Microgard Select after seeing the trash we've been getting from anything owned by Mann-Hummel or Champ. Between your vids and my own analysis they are very well built and very consistent. They tick all of the boxes except the base-end bypass. I've even gone as far as finding filter numbers close to what fits on my quad, diesel tractor, Generac, and zero-turn after seeing what the Wix filters for them look like inside. Thanks for the vid.
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Them microguard filters are very nice.
Both look like they would be great filters, but for the money, it is hard to beat the MicroGard.
MicroGard for the win...My primary criteria is the filter media, and I'm surprised how close the media area was between the two filters. Better media + lower price = win for MicroGard!
You're spot on Whip about the PPE 10um statement. Without a % meaningless. The throw away magnet in the dome, kinda gimmicky. And no coo, though a guess says China. Decently made filter but not for $30. O'R MSL a much better value and the clear choice between the two. But I'm with you on looking for a made in USA filter first. Fram Endurance or Purolator Boss, Napa Platinum, even a Purolator P1 ok too imo. Thanks for video.
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I really like the Microgard filters. Switched over from Wix/Napa filters. Excellent construction. Very well made filters.
I like the microgaurd filter way better ! The PPE is just more like a $10 filter with a $20 magnet ! LOL ! 😛
In all fairness, a high temperature rated magnet that can withstand up to 300° without losing its magnetism is very expensive
Like the fact that the ppe filter has a magnet
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I try and make an oil filter inspection video every Friday on this TH-cam channel, Thank You!
Either one of those would be welcome under my hood. I've noticed a lot of Vietnam filters have silicon gaskets.
on filter brands with the bypass on the end opposite the opening, i usually put a "donut magnet on the end to catch any metal that may be washed off the media during bypass.believe it or not, there is a visual amount of magnetic powder attached to the magnet that wouldve went thru engine on bypass, such as cold starts.even at 3500 intervals.you can learn alot from a cut open used filter.
🦃Could have used one of those filters to filter all the disgusting oil in the turkey gravy yesterday at my brothers wife's Thanksgiving dinner, it reminded me of used motor oil at the bottom of the pan before they made gravy with it .🍗....😁
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I think all filters should have magnet
Microguard for the win. Have you cut open any of the STP filters yet. Maybe I just haven't found those videos yet. Anyway hope you had a great turkey day.
Thanks!
Yes, I had a great Turkey Day. Here are a couple links to some STP oil filters I opened. th-cam.com/video/Os5TLj6fNVs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher th-cam.com/video/e4oVzFlNX9Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Things I like about both filters. The silicone O-Ring might be the tie-breaker for me in favor of the MicroGard Select. Don't see that every day, even on the top-of-the-line filters.
I'll still with Fram and Purolator. I bet they filter 10 microns better than that PPE filter also.
Another good one 👍 full watch
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Great job 👍
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Good job Pete, another great review! Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving also. God bless 🙂. Merri :)
Thanks, Merri
Thanksgiving was great, Thanks! Have a great Weeekend👍
Great job Pete
Thanks Dwayne👍
At least the box says fuel filter 😂
Yep, I don't know what that's all about. LOL😊
10 microns!!! Oil will be going through the by-pass....and at $30!!!!!!
YaY to John! Another great comparison! Have a Great Week! 👍😊
Thanks, Ella
Have a great week also👍😊
@@WhipCityWrencher Thanks! 😊
Great video.
Thanks, Paul👍
Bigger doesn't Generally mean better. MicroGard better built inside and filter media is almost same. Compare it to OEM AC DELCO oil filter to see which one is better.
Happy Thanksgiving!!👍
Happy Thanksgiving👍
Not a huge fan of the PPE but it is a nice filter and if i was going to spend that i would opt for a Donaldson or Cat Filter . It drives me nuts on these diesel forums with the Amsoil and PPE filters that have a cult like following. And it seems like PPE goes out of their way to hide who makes their filters . I am really glad to see you shared this since its whats on the inside as to what makes it work
Thanks, AJ👍
Good job, Whip. Sometimes I wish I could design my own custom filter, but for now the MicroGard gets my vote. The magnet is a nice feature though. Thanks again for the thorough autopsy.
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On the subject of just putting a neodymium cheap magnet on the outside (1 to 3 small ones) of an oil filter, it's not a bad idea. Dome end is probably better since flow is much slower there. Harbor Freight will sell you 6 for $3, so cheap. ... or Amazon, Hobby Lobby, they seem easy to get.
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Without proper testing you are more likely to bundle all the metal together so they can come loose together and raise hell.
@@TonicofSonic Magnets are on the dirty side of the oil filter anyway. Oil filter will catch any bigger chunks over 25 microns in size if the external magnet dropped off, which it probably won't. Strong neodymium magnets stay put.
You can’t just use any neodynium magnet because the normal oil temperatures will cause a cheap neodymium magnet to lose its magnetism and release all the particles back to the oil so you must use a high temperature 300° plus rated magnet, and those are expensive
@@MarkSmith-cz3by The magnet's coercivity is not so bad when it's attached to iron (filter housing, outside). Most losses in physics experiments are for a magnet in free air. .... And the temperature doesn't get too high with all that air and metal conductivity around it either. You'd be OK with the cheapie neodymiums here, but, you're right, temperature can matter!
Test: If they fall off, or simply don't stick to the outside of the oil filter anymore with good force, then that is a sign they have taken too many hot trips. I'll check to see if the one small disc neodymium I have on the dome end of the oil filter is still "got it goin' on" with force. Good points. Can't know til we try it out, and the results will be obvious. (People have reported they stay on and don't get weak, as far as I've heard.)
Just my opinion but I like the micro guard
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Thanks, Christina👍
Did all my shopping before Black Friday! Less crowds & traffic. The stores I go to gave me a good $$ anyway.
Can almost buy 3 MicroGard Selects for 1 of those. Hahaha it’s an easy decision for me!😂
Good morning, sir! I had a decent Thanksgiving!
Good Morning, Thanks👍
The Microfarad filter looks like a well made filter that is readily available at a good price. Awesome video as always!
I hope you had a nice Thanksgiving
Hi Kevin
Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving as well, Thanks👍
@@WhipCityWrencher Happy Thanksgiving Whipper.. Also I was wondering if you could save that Microgard/Premium Guard adbv AND outer gasket and burn them both to see if they are really silicone.. Some people think they are lying and using red nitrile.
@@memopadilla5931 Happy Thanksgiving!
I'll try and make a video of that test soon, Thanks!👍
@@memopadilla5931great suggestion, they do have a much brighter color than most brands!
@@WhipCityWrencher Thank you Whip.. I really appreciate that !
YOU'RE RIGHT
PPE OVERPRICED
ID GO WITH MADE IN THE USA 🇺🇲
INTERESTING REVIEW, AS ALWAYS 👍
Most all Asian made filters have toe plastic covering on the business end.
Thanks, Pete, for another informative video and John for the donation. I am going to go with the MicroGard for the win. The lack of filtering efficiency ratings and the high price for a simple magnet by PPE is not worth it. Lack of transparency and a non synthetic filter media for $30 bucks, pass.
You're Welcome Jonathan👍
Thanks!
If I’m not mistaken both of these filters are made in Vietnam. The Microguard is the same as the STP extended life at AutoZone and also the Premium guard extended life filters. They are great filters as I’ve used the Premium guard on my car and they have always held up very well. I’d be willing to bet it’s the same media in both filters.
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The magnet, any magnet, would magnetize the whole filter canister. Not a problem just something to know.
This is a case of "You don't get what you pay for." Looks like the PPP is not worth the extra cost.
Great video, spending more doesn't always pay off. I'm curious to know with the 10 micron, what's the bypass spring/pressure. Will it be running on its bypass mostly?
Merry Christmas to you and your family...
Sorry, I don't know the bypass valve setting. Not published.
Merry Christmas🎄
Definitely if you're down on your luck, the microgard would last a vehicle 20,000 miles. Microgard seems to check all the boxes. Me, I going to stick to my Super Tech ST filters.. Appreciate all your videos, thanks!!
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Thanks!
Micro guard for the win. Pepe for the most over priced unknown no info filter
95% profit
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I would be worried about an oil filter that filters down to 10 microns creating some oil starvation, remember that oil DOES have to be pumped thru the filter. If it didn’t create an issue or possible issue I am sure Amsoil would make one that filters down to that level.
True, you want a filter that has a decent micron rating without too much restriction. 99% at 20 -30 microns seems to be an average number. JMHO
btw, Amsoil doesn't make oil filters, Champ Labs makes them for Amsoil, check out this link.www.rvandplaya.com/who-makes-amsoil-oil-filters/
@@WhipCityWrencher THANKS ! I just read that article you sent, excellent read. I knew that Amsoil didn’t directly produce their own filter but always wondered who actually made them. I just always felt that Amsoil wouldn’t pair a crappy filter with their oil products because too much is on the line in terms of reputation for them.
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The PPE also a fuel filter? I noticed the box says fuel filter on one side
I don't know why it says that, this is an oil filter. LOL😊
WOW That PPE is way way over priced !!
The PPE looks like a nice filter but really, $30? The microguard looks like it's equal in every way except in volume and that magnet, which I think is a gimmick. I mean really, if my engine is throwing metal shards, I got bigger problems. Further, many engines have aluminum in them so a magnet is not going to do much. And the media and gasket are nicer on the microguard. Never had much experience of the microguard but they look pretty good!
Hope you had a nice thanksgiving, too Pete!!
Thanks, Jim
I had a great Thanksgiving😊
Just remember, always choose a filter that has a synthetic media that looks like a thick white soft cotton material. Don’t buy the synthetic blends that are pink or Orange and look like paper. I prefer the Napa Platinum.
The PPE filter looks to us to have a 10 for the month. Would never use a filter that does not say where it was made!
id use a proselect.
Would you recommend Amsoil OE oil for Toyota dual vvti ?
I've used them in the past, They are a nice filter but not worth the money. I use Purolater PureOnes on my wife's matrix with the VVT now. Nicer and less money.
@@jamescaron6465 amsoil oil okay to use? Or way overpriced and overrated?
Oil or Filter?
I've never used Amsoil oil, but I do like Pennzoil Platinum oil, my engine seems to run quieter with that oil.
@@WhipCityWrencher I do use the Oil Pete, it's a great oil, so is Pennzoil. In fact Project farm did a head to head of about 10 oils and rated them 1 and 2 overall. The Amsoil filters are way overpriced for what you get.
@@jamescaron6465 I saw those Project Farm videos, good stuff!
Yep, the Amsoil oil filter is basically the same as the Fram Endurance oil filters, both Champ Made.😊😊
Do you open big truck oil filters? I'll be glad to send you one if you put it up on stage.
Sure, I've opened some big diesel oil filters, send me an email to, Poker4me007@gmail.com
The marketing wank is strong with the PPE filter. It looks like its a China or Thailand filter. With the nasty Mann filters we've seen that just look a mess of glue or zero care about filter quality... Even a the fram and champ struggle. Those Vietnam filters always seem to come out good every time.
i guess legally they can put 10 microns on the package, even if its 1% efficeint.kind of lile a synthetic blend oil, what 3% synthetic? for 4 extra dollars a quart?
Yep, Exactly
Ones a fuel filter
It says so on the box but it's not. LOL
That is fuel filter 😂😂😂
Calling BS on the PPE ,for both the filtration #'s & it's lacking the country of origin! ....& being overpriced
Thanks Mark👍
Looking at the filter medium under a microscope is meaningless.You need to test the filters filtration capabilities.
Using a magnet that isn’t designed to withstand the temperatures of the oil is worthless.Standard magnets degrade significantly when they are exposed to heat.
Also using a magnet to magnetize the filter canister makes the magnet less effective.Using a silicon gasket at the sealing surface doesn’t provide as robust a seal and could fail during high oil pressures.
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I don't think the microscope picture is meaningless. I can look at two microscope pics. and tell you which one will filter better and which one will allow a better flow.