I used to use the huge FL405 on my 351W. Had to clearance the shock tower a tiny bit to get it started on the threads, but man, any extra oil over the FL1A I could fit was bonus. Especially on a .060" overbore and a stroker crank.
Beat me to it Rich! Lol Looks like a higher flowing filter element overall. Many of these modern synthetic medias flow very well. The original one was an enhanced glass media. I’m not certain the media composition of this new element. Granted, it should be an extent filter as long as the filtration hasn’t been sacrificed for flow. Wix, Purolator, and Motorcraft are all from Mann Hummel. Happy New Year Rich and family!
Looks good. Nice to see Ford making improvements. The only Motorcraft filter I run is for the 2021 Gt Mustang. I'm doing Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 every 3k. No coyote tick yet 🤞. I am currently doing exhaust research for my 2019 toyota Tundra 5.7. It's hard to find a good mix of good sound without highway drone.
There’s a video put out by Messicks Equipment showing the differences between a oem Kubota filter vs aftermarket. It’s a very good video and shows why there is a price difference if any between oem and non oem.
The FL2124 Looks very similar to the black oil filter that comes on the truck from the factory. I cut mine open after the first oil change and had the same style filter media with a metal mesh backing. I was confused as to why the FL2050 was so different from the black one. Maybe they are going to that factory style filter.
I'm really impressed with that new filter. I run Motorcraft oil and air filters on all my cars. Even when I had a Chevy SS I ran a MC oil filter on it. I wonder if the newer filter will come with a higher price tag?
Hi Rich and Happy New Year. My concern about the new filter is the media looks like it has "loose" fibers and those can clog the fine mesh in the phaser actuators. Can you actually pull at them to see if they are free, or just fuzzy?
If it's broke don't fix it, ford's are always broke! Only real difference, new part number and higher price number! They are shitty quality filters and much better options out there to run!
Yeah I could tear apart the pleats but it doesn't really do anything for anybody I mean there are some people that like it but it just waste a lot of time for me to be honest with you
Thanks for another great educational and interesting video, exceptional content! Happy New Year to you and your family and all your nearly almost 70,000 subscribers. bodymanbob from Alabama
Being its Ford OE im not to worried about it but the aftermarket likes to put more, and thicker pleats in there oil filter and then claim there filters work better which is true if all you consider is filtrations.. but, flow is more important in some cases.. This is why all filters have some type of bypass, either on the truck side or the filter side.... If flow is restricted to much because of to many pleats then the bypass stays open all the time.. Like running with no filter, which will eventually bite you... One thing I like about the Ford filters is that there bypass is at the top of the filter (But not the FL2124s or the FL2051s).... Compare the FL500s, FL820s, or FL910s to filters from anyone else, valvoline, wix, fram, et.. I have yet to see anyone else with that design..
Something I found online Castrol continues to build on its long-term partnership with Ford Motor Company with the launch of a refreshed line-up of co-engineered Ford-Castrol MAGNATEC lubricants.
Gotta say I'm genuinely impressed that Ford would actually IMPROVE the quality of something. I'm guess I'm just so used to manufacturers trying to screw over customers with inferior quality products. 😆
Thanks for the video. I just ordered a new filter and noticed the number difference and found your video while doing an online search as to why the new filter from Ford.
another thing ive noticed, is the oil capacity change on the new 1.5L i3. on oasis it says 2 different oil capacities depending on build date. yet i haven't seen any publications on it. i just fear that someone would put the wrong amount in during an oil change due to not knowing about this.
Does the new (FL2124s) come with the info directly printed on the white metal filter or is it a stick on label? You didn't buy a fake from Amazon, did you? The old (FL2051s) has it's label directly printed on the metal filter, right?
WOW I just called my auto parts store and they have the new oil filter replacement I'm going to try it the other one is discontinued maybe the 2051s had a problem but Ford is putting out a lot of crap. I watch A-Rod all the time he comes up with some crazy stuff and I did not even know that was you and your cutting oil filter open I almost fell over the chair I call A-Rod alumiduty detective you put on a good video thank you for the info
I have dozens of motorcraft filters 20+ years old, guy gave em to me with the 85’ Mustang GT Cobra I bought from him that was sitting in his garage forever. I don’t know if I should use them, coz what if the media is broken down. I could send you one to break open.
New filter FL-2124-S The S stands for Synthetic ? Seems ALL oils are synthetic blend. Hard to find non synthetic oil. Was synthetic oil breaking down the filter or restricting flow ?
Hey Richard. I have a question about my car. 2014 Toyota Yaris. When I go to start it and turn the key right away the serpentine belt squeaks for about 10 seconds. If I turn the ignition on only and wait 10 seconds then turn the key to start the car the belt doesn’t make any noise. Why is that? I hope I explained it right. Thank you.
Hey Rich. Here’s an off topic question. I’ve got a “17 transit 150. It’s got the original orange coolant. Is there a recall of sort on replacing the orange coolant with yellow?
The orange coolant has been upgraded to the yellow. Orange was OAT, yellow is P-OAT. Search for "FCSD Chemicals and Lubricants". There are data sheets for all Motorcraft fluid products there.
Little criticism. I will have to assume that these filters are for a diesel super duty oil? Or fuel? My 7.3 super duty oil filter no where near that big. 2022.
It’s heavier because of the thickness of the media. Enhanced glass used in the original element is lighter and thinner without a doubt. I don’t believe we will see any significant rise in oil pressure as the element appears to be designed for greater flow. More flow equates to lesser pressure.
I had a question. I was thinking that to save money and make things easier that I would change my oil every 5k but my filter every 10k(as long as it's rated for 10k). I have a vacuum extractor and I would only have to go under the vehicle every 10k making it easier while saving money on filters. Is this ok to do?
@@gageb556 yeah but there's always oil left in the engine after draining the sump, you're just replacing most of it. So it's just continually diluting the old oil with new oil.
Perhaps the money you “save” doing this can go to either an engine repair, or the premature purchase of a new vehicle I would recommend not renewing the insurance as a cost cutting measure before a known maintainence item
I used to use the huge FL405 on my 351W. Had to clearance the shock tower a tiny bit to get it started on the threads, but man, any extra oil over the FL1A I could fit was bonus. Especially on a .060" overbore and a stroker crank.
Those poor filters never had the chance to experience life... Great video.
Thanks for this Rich, I always use oem
Plus oil change every 5000 miles
Great video, thank you for sharing!
I think it's cooled they went to synthetic media. Really beefed it up!!
I honestly have to say I'm shocked. It's rare that you see manufacturers replace something good with something better. Love the videos bro👍
You and me both!
Old filter at Walmart was around 22, new one is 32. They didn't do it out of the kindness of their heart.
The price has sure jumped with the updated filter as well. Glad to see it's not just a sticker change
Techs, who care, around the US who follow you, thank you for this.
Where is around here? Just curious
Thank You as always for your support
Beat me to it Rich! Lol
Looks like a higher flowing filter element overall. Many of these modern synthetic medias flow very well. The original one was an enhanced glass media. I’m not certain the media composition of this new element. Granted, it should be an extent filter as long as the filtration hasn’t been sacrificed for flow. Wix, Purolator, and Motorcraft are all from Mann Hummel.
Happy New Year Rich and family!
Looks good. Nice to see Ford making improvements. The only Motorcraft filter I run is for the 2021 Gt Mustang. I'm doing Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 every 3k. No coyote tick yet 🤞. I am currently doing exhaust research for my 2019 toyota Tundra 5.7. It's hard to find a good mix of good sound without highway drone.
Awesome job on this, thanks for the info
There’s a video put out by Messicks Equipment showing the differences between a oem Kubota filter vs aftermarket. It’s a very good video and shows why there is a price difference if any between oem and non oem.
Round of applause for pumping out quality content straight through the holidays. 👏
Thank you for the video,
Enjoy your day off with family.
Happy New Year!!!
The FL2124 Looks very similar to the black oil filter that comes on the truck from the factory. I cut mine open after the first oil change and had the same style filter media with a metal mesh backing. I was confused as to why the FL2050 was so different from the black one. Maybe they are going to that factory style filter.
Great video. Very interesting. Well done. 👍
I'm really impressed with that new filter. I run Motorcraft oil and air filters on all my cars. Even when I had a Chevy SS I ran a MC oil filter on it. I wonder if the newer filter will come with a higher price tag?
@@toddbob55 especially from like the early 2000s up GM stuff is truly garbage it's a shame cuz they used to be a good company not no more
Ha the gmt800 platform gm trucks are literally the most reliable and longest lasting trucks on the road
Hi Rich and Happy New Year. My concern about the new filter is the media looks like it has "loose" fibers and those can clog the fine mesh in the phaser actuators. Can you actually pull at them to see if they are free, or just fuzzy?
If it's broke don't fix it, ford's are always broke!
Only real difference, new part number and higher price number! They are shitty quality filters and much better options out there to run!
What you just said is so ignorant I don't even want to respond to it any other way than telling you how ignorant you are
Change is probably for the High Output version of the Powerstroke.
Happy New Year Rich!
You are correct in that assessment
Prob more to do with the extended oil drain interval over the previous recommended mileage
Nice to see the difference. Still made by Purolator. Wonder what's the difference between all two....
3?
@@FordBossMe 😂 guess I can't count anymore 😂 or maybe my phone auto corrected to 3 lol
Even though Purolator makes them doesn't mean they're going to be the same, they're made to ford specs
Shell and hardware basically the same filter element up grade. Tare apart the pleats the difference is in the inner filter element
Yeah I could tear apart the pleats but it doesn't really do anything for anybody I mean there are some people that like it but it just waste a lot of time for me to be honest with you
My 2124 only has 5 holes in the base
Thanks for another great educational and interesting video, exceptional content! Happy New Year to you and your family and all your nearly almost 70,000 subscribers. bodymanbob from Alabama
Being its Ford OE im not to worried about it but the aftermarket likes to put more, and thicker pleats in there oil filter and then claim there filters work better which is true if all you consider is filtrations.. but, flow is more important in some cases.. This is why all filters have some type of bypass, either on the truck side or the filter side.... If flow is restricted to much because of to many pleats then the bypass stays open all the time.. Like running with no filter, which will eventually bite you... One thing I like about the Ford filters is that there bypass is at the top of the filter (But not the FL2124s or the FL2051s).... Compare the FL500s, FL820s, or FL910s to filters from anyone else, valvoline, wix, fram, et.. I have yet to see anyone else with that design..
Why did they change up part numbers? Maybe they have changed vendors in their supply chain.
Something I found online Castrol continues to build on its long-term partnership with Ford Motor Company with the launch of a refreshed line-up of co-engineered Ford-Castrol MAGNATEC lubricants.
Great video
Gotta say I'm genuinely impressed that Ford would actually IMPROVE the quality of something. I'm guess I'm just so used to manufacturers trying to screw over customers with inferior quality products. 😆
What’s up with the new media being fuzzy and the old one not?
Thanks for the video. I just ordered a new filter and noticed the number difference and found your video while doing an online search as to why the new filter from Ford.
I am doing an oil change now and only have an FL-2124-s
Thanks for the update Rich. Enjoy your time off with your family Happy New Year.
So being an update does that mean these are good for all model 6.7’s 2012-2023 super duty diesel right
2011 to 2023 and yes because that's the only ones are going to be making from now on so you have to use it
another thing ive noticed, is the oil capacity change on the new 1.5L i3. on oasis it says 2 different oil capacities depending on build date. yet i haven't seen any publications on it.
i just fear that someone would put the wrong amount in during an oil change due to not knowing about this.
i allways liked motorcraft filters for value per dollar, its hard to go wrong by them for senceable change intervals.thanks rich.
Does the new (FL2124s) come with the info directly printed on the white metal filter or is it a stick on label? You didn't buy a fake from Amazon, did you? The old (FL2051s) has it's label directly printed on the metal filter, right?
No it's a real one buddy it's real
Thank you. Painted on or sticky label? @@FordBossMe
@@bob_frazier sticky
@@FordBossMe Thank you! I had (incorrectly)heard the stickers were the fakes. Thanks so much for this!
Thanks for clearing up the differences!
WOW I just called my auto parts store and they have the new oil filter replacement I'm going to try it the other one is discontinued maybe the 2051s had a problem but Ford is putting out a lot of crap. I watch A-Rod all the time he comes up with some crazy stuff and I did not even know that was you and your cutting oil filter open I almost fell over the chair I call A-Rod alumiduty detective you put on a good video thank you for the info
You are very welcome, he's one of my best friends I love him to death.
He's a great guy
I have dozens of motorcraft filters 20+ years old, guy gave em to me with the 85’ Mustang GT Cobra I bought from him that was sitting in his garage forever.
I don’t know if I should use them, coz what if the media is broken down.
I could send you one to break open.
When in doubt, throw it out.
Happy New Year! Good information!
Where did you buy the oil filter Opener
Edit: Never mind I forgot there's this thing called Google
Amazon
It’s good to see that ford beefed up the media of the filter.
Great job on the video.
The new filter media looks fiberous to me, almost like those fibers can become loose.
Nope
Cute Dawg! 🐾🐾
New filter FL-2124-S The S stands for Synthetic ? Seems ALL oils are synthetic blend. Hard to find non synthetic oil. Was synthetic oil breaking down the filter or restricting flow ?
No not really they just wanted to create something more special for better filtration
Synthetic material last longer for longer intervals
Nah. I've been using the 2051 for 700k miles on same engine. No issues
Happy new year ford boss
It will be a lot easier to cut them open if you remove the gasket first
I know
Happy new year rich, thanks for the great video
Happy new year!
Hey Richard. I have a question about my car. 2014 Toyota Yaris. When I go to start it and turn the key right away the serpentine belt squeaks for about 10 seconds. If I turn the ignition on only and wait 10 seconds then turn the key to start the car the belt doesn’t make any noise. Why is that? I hope I explained it right. Thank you.
That's odd, I'm not sure on this
Had this before. Typically was an idler pulley.
Hey Rich. Here’s an off topic question. I’ve got a “17 transit 150. It’s got the original orange coolant. Is there a recall of sort on replacing the orange coolant with yellow?
The orange coolant has been upgraded to the yellow. Orange was OAT, yellow is P-OAT. Search for "FCSD Chemicals and Lubricants". There are data sheets for all Motorcraft fluid products there.
No recall to do so but on the next engine flush request the new vc13g yellow coolant
Thank you!
great vid! do you know if the FL820s for the gasser is getting same upgrade??
No it's not it's staying the same
@@FordBossMe Thanks man, keep up the good work
I'll skip over both of them for those Reeses.
I have a thing for reeses it's the only real candy I like, I got that for Christmas
Whats the cost difference between the 2 ?
I'm not sure yet - believe it's a cou0le dollars
Happy New Year
also what breed of dog is that????
She's is a mut, husky, lab, terrior she is a rescue
Little criticism. I will have to assume that these filters are for a diesel super duty oil? Or fuel? My 7.3 super duty oil filter no where near that big. 2022.
I said oil filter and fuel filters don't look like this on a superduty
7.3 diesel oil filters are bigger
7.3 gas😊
@@waynemeredith4287 that makes sense
Another great video my question is did they increase the price or did they keep it the same?
I'm not sure
Looks like it’s about $10 more.
Will the heavier material raise the oil pressure and will it trap more containments?
In sure it will
It’s heavier because of the thickness of the media. Enhanced glass used in the original element is lighter and thinner without a doubt. I don’t believe we will see any significant rise in oil pressure as the element appears to be designed for greater flow. More flow equates to lesser pressure.
I can only guess your wife is out while you cut open oil filters on the kitchen countertop 😅good thing that they are unused 😊
She was here
@@FordBossMe you are very lucky to have her then. Few would allow such work on their countertops.
I had a question. I was thinking that to save money and make things easier that I would change my oil every 5k but my filter every 10k(as long as it's rated for 10k). I have a vacuum extractor and I would only have to go under the vehicle every 10k making it easier while saving money on filters. Is this ok to do?
It is but i still wouldn't
@@FordBossMe ok
The way I see it, if the oil is used by that mileage, I wouldn’t run new oil through a filter that is full of “bad oil”
@@gageb556 yeah but there's always oil left in the engine after draining the sump, you're just replacing most of it. So it's just continually diluting the old oil with new oil.
Perhaps the money you “save” doing this can go to either an engine repair, or the premature purchase of a new vehicle
I would recommend not renewing the insurance as a cost cutting measure before a known maintainence item
They changed vendors is why the change.
Nope still the same one. Checked
They did not change vendors