DON'T CUT ANY CORNERS! 68RFE Transmission Overhaul Cost
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Thanks Steve you answered my questions..
You’re welcome, John! Sorry it took awhile.
One of the best videos on auto trans overhauls Ive seen. Very informative. Great work Steve and Andy!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Great job!
Honesty and integrity are two hard things to find in transmission shops. I think Chester County and Andy have those covered.
Best transmission video I have ever seen. Period!
you will probably love this youtube video of ATS talking about the allison and 68rfe comparison and what they do to improve both tranis
@@danieldewilson 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Love everything you're doin. And I appreciate what you do.
Awesome video!!!
Great video 😎👍
Epic video lots of important info.
Loving that outro tune always !!!! 😉😉😉😉😉
Nice video! Keep it up!
I really like these guys! I wish I could go to them for transmission work but I'm in south east Louisiana. Now I know what to look for when shopping around for a mechanic shop though. Thank you for this video, it's a great help!!!!
Come up here & we’ll make a video of it. 😆
Ha! If only. I dont even have the dream truck yet lol. I'm shooting for a 3rd gen with the 48re. Either way, I wanna do supporting mods before I do the fun stuff. To me beefing up a stock truck to handle the HP and torque then adding it after makes a little sense. No fun in that though.
Love the sign in the back ground about wife’s advice
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Great video and content. When the time comes, I may just have to make the trip up from FL to have them work on mine, unless they have a sister company down here.
Bring yours up!
Been trying to get a call back for a couple weeks from Andy about my 68rfr overdrive clutches slipping and no call back yet.
but I do appreciate the info, thanks reputable shop for sure. You should post the valve body plate upgrades line pressure monitor and even gm solinoid as an option. Guys should get all the upgrades, make these trucks better then new.
Great video, Steve! Andy too. Glad to hear it's working well, and at about half the cost of a fully built unit. 👍
P.S. Don't forget to include the RevMax valve body! 😉
Thanks Mike! Hope you got back home safely. I didn’t include that intentionally, because we didn’t install it during the overhaul.
We did, thanks! Only reason I mention the modified VB is that you must have it to get over 180psi line pressure and fully utilize those nice upgraded clutches!
True
When I use to race motocross we would only replace the fibers in the clutch and leave the old steels in the bike. I was always told a used steel always runs truer then a new one.... but when it comes to my transmission id rather it be all new lol
Hey man, loving the videos.... I have been spending way too much time watching these things... but anyway I think I am having the same issues you were having with my 2014 2500. Trans almost feels mushy like its not sure what it wants to do. Not sure if you have a list put together that you can easily send, Im just curious what all you did to it. Im pretty local to this trans shop I think with in the hour, so Ill maybe touch base with them for more information. love the truck.
Hi Jeremy, I have a whole playlist for the trans overhaul w/ detailed info in the video descriptions. I’m actually going to Chesco Transmissions today to check two that they’re overhauling this week. Here’s the playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLGMOElExUdjrP2bHpTQpu4sDCg9rOY8uH.html
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Thank you for posting! Not many will show the cost associated with their mods. This is or can be an expensive hobby and if its your daily driver you need to know what to expect. I just discovered an oil leak in my Cummins. It has been tuned so I'm going to find out soon if the tuner affected my warranty. I'm prepared if I get denied a claim but we'll see. If I gotta pull the trans I might look into going ahead with supporting mods. Anyways, respect and stay safe.
Oil leaks are no good. Where’s it coming from?
Ram BEAST Projects looks like rear main:(
Oh man.. Start planning all the other upgrades while you have everything apart.
I can't even count the times I've heard 4th gen owners think they have a leaking rear main just to find out that it's assembly lube that is on every one of these trucks. The amount of times of actual leaking rear mains? Maybe one.
Might want to check it out before taking it to the dealer. Assembly lube is a golden color where oil (from a diesel) will be pitch black. Clean it off with some brake cleaner and see if it comes back. If it does, then you have a leak and should take it in.
If you're already tuned, you are a potential cash cow for the dealership with 100% of the liability resting on your shoulders. If they mess something up, they can always blame tuning. You think you have a leaking main seal? Well, better pull the trans just to make sure... oh, btw this isn't covered under warranty because you're tuned. Oh, it's not a leaky seal and just assembly lube? Well, better replace the seal just to be safe... oh, btw this isn't covered under warranty because you're tuned. You see where this is going...
Fwiw, my truck had this same "issue". It was assembly lube and I wager it's the case for you all as well.
The lock ups are awesome!
Great Vid. Did i miss how much the gear swap was?
We actually didn’t get into that yet, but it would cost roughly $3500 for parts, supplies & labor for both differentials.
@@BEASTProjects Appreciate the reply. I'm in the market for a new truck but I'm leaning twd an Aisin for obvious reasons lol. I'm sure tuning isnt far out for them. Keep spending that money 🤑
Hopefully it will pay off someday.. 😂
hello, where are you located? can i bring my transmission to your shop?
I have to overhaul the transmission on my deleted Ram, can you send me the info on what you purchased from Suncoast? Pretty sure in going with their equipment but dont know what I need. Like you, I toasted my overhaul gears.
Maybe I missed it. The trans rebuild was around 4k but how much for the re gearing. Btw your truck is awesome.
Correct, $3500-4000... The gear swap is about $1500 a diff.
Why not get the whole suncoast trans for $5500?
Enjoying the videos, I’m sure it’s been asked but I can’t find it. How much for all the parts and labor for everything done to your 68rfe ? I’m in Ohio not too far from there and wouldn’t mind a reputable shop completing mine.
DON'T CUT ANY CORNERS! 68RFE Transmission Overhaul Cost th-cam.com/video/764XNUEnnc0/w-d-xo.html
I purchased my first diesel new, 1999 Dodge 2500 4x4 with auto trans. No Mods, I towed a horse trailer all over the NC, VA & TN mountains for a few years along with towing trailers for work and a bass boat. In 2005 I traded it with 251K miles, never had any problems. I then purchased a 2005 Dodge 3500 4x4 dually, upgraded horse trailer to full living quarters towing 2 horses in a 40'x8'x8' trailer weighing 13,500 lbs. No mod's and no problems, just traded it at 207k miles. Both trucks were running perfect and pull like a champ when I traded. Of the thousands of miles towing those trailers with both trucks, only used tow haul pulling very steep grades. Both trucks got transmission flush and filter change, transfer case, rear diff, front diff change every 30k miles. Mechanical told me it was a waste of money but all of that hard pulling and no drivetrain problems with either truck! I just purchased a 2018 Ram 3500 dually Limited, 4x4, HO 6.7 with Aisin trans. It will get no mods. Those trucks don't need mods, they run strong and will pull anything hooked to the hitch.
Chris M
Absolutely... leave ‘em the heck alone! I’m the original owner of a 2000’ 24v quad cab that still feels as good as the day I bought it. When I die they’ll bury me in it. When my body decomposes my daughter will dig it up, fuel it, and pass it on to her kids.
If you have a modded diesel always put a 3dics converter in it. Andy knows what he is talking about dont skip any parts while ur in there. I spent $3500 just in parts on my 47re in my 96 12v and I did the rebuild myself.
Yup, we didn’t cut any corners.
Big Murph, how was the rebuild? How tough was it? Have you done it before? I have a book on the 68.
@@georgejohnson6789 It wasnt to bad to do I never did one before I had a book also just take ur time dont skip over anything or parts spend the money and do it right the first time. I also did a 48re for a co worker after I did my 47re. Like I said pay attention to everthing.
I know the pain of a trans build and an ecu
So I have to ask you why not start out with a Ram truck with the Aisin transmission? It’s a transmission originally put in medium duty trucks Paul from PDdiesel loves them and it seems they hold up well under a lot of stress on them.
hpkntnw you can’t tune an aisin. You can tune and bulletproof a 68rfe
I honestly didn’t know the 68rfe’s were prone with these issues until after I purchased my truck. I assumed that it was a diesel & the transmission would have been engineered to hold the torque & then some. I’m sure that I’m not the only one either. Just trying to help others out...
Aisin is great if you want to stay stock or close to stock. With the mods Steve has done he's probably better of in the long run the way he went with the 68RFE. If you want a 2500 its the only auto option.
Ram Beast Project
Thanks for this video and the rest You post. Good job !!!
Can You ask this question to the guys You know at that transmission shop. I always wondered this but never understood, maybe they can clarify my question ?
Why is it that BD Diesel’s 68RFE transmissions requires a line pressure reading off the old transmission, before installing the new BD 68RFE Trans.
BD says that their new transmission requires the TCM to be reprogrammed with the line pressures of the old stock transmission or it will burn up that BD transmission before you make it a full mile down the road.
I don’t understand that, correct me if I am wrong but ATS’ Transmissions doesn’t require all that line pressure checking of old transmission and reprogramming it into the same TCM that’s being reused with their new transmission ?
I know that the TCM needs to go through the relearn of the new transmission along with connecting the co-pilot that ATS provides with some of their top end transmission packages.
Here is the link to the BD Diesel’s 68RFE transmission swap, that I herd this from.
th-cam.com/video/PdTHNtSRfSo/w-d-xo.html
In the video you posted, at around the one minute mark, Johnny Kittson explains that BD requires a scan of the PCM before the old trans is removed and after the new one is installed (and quick learned) so CVI (and other data) can be logged and compared. BD uses this information to verify that the trans was installed properly. I imagine that this is for warranty purposes, at a minimum. ATS does not require this. The reasons are only known to them, I suppose. However, the norm is to at least measure commanded & actual line pressure (LP) after the new trans is in. Reason being is that a built trans can achieve over 250psi LP, where as the stock unit can only get around 170-180 max.
As far as trans tuning (reprogramming) yes, you generally need this for any built 68RFE (there are a few exceptions). ATS doesn't need this because the "Co-Pilot" acts as an interface that essentially fools the PCM into behaving as if it were tuned (higher shift points, higher line pressure, etc.) but thinking it's delivering stock values. Conversely, tuning simply adjusts the values in the PCM so it can command 250psi LP and achieve 250psi LP. Personally, I'd rather pay $200 for trans tuning than $1300 for the ATS unit.
Also worth noting, RevMax has just released a 68RFE that does not need any tuning which drastically outperforms custom trans tunes. My RevMax 700 68rfe will be going in for an upgrade very soon.
Hope this helps.
Monster RAM
Yes it helped Thank You.
After I made that book of a comment, I researched it little further and understood what I was asking about.
I am just getting some knowledge together on what I will need, and what I will need to do, for when I swap out my 68RFE from my 2012 Cummins.
By trade, for past 14 - 15 years, I work on tractor and trailers.
But pulling a trans, clutch, and flywheel out of a Peterbuilt is one thing (basically swapping parts)
but with this 68RFE I have to become an IT tech.
I should have ordered a Manual transmission when I bought my Cummins back in 2012.
Monster RAM
One more thing, I don’t know if You know about the ATS transmission brace they offer, but You should get one after all that work You had done.
Apparently the 68RFE tends to crack along the top of the case because of the case being so thin.
The added torque coming through the transmission from tuners, Injectors, turbos, ect... will crack a built 68RFE without the ATS brace.
Shawn Eid - I have the ATS brace on my RevMax 700 68RFE. I see it as cheap insurance and would recommend it, but there are plenty of built 68RFEs without them that haven't cracked a case so it's up to you. Is your trans now having issues, or are you just wanting to upgrade? If you're going to build/rebuild it, I'd have a power goal in mind and go from there. With my truck, 700 - 750whp was the goal so I went with an appropriate trans. If you are at stock levels, I'd probably get a Suncoast rebuild kit and a few hard parts that money would allow and you'd be fine. As far as who is going to do the work, I'd have it done at a shop or get a fully built unit. You'd probably be fine removing/installing the trans yourself though.
What parts were used for the bare minimum? I’m really trying to build mine for longevity with it being tuned
Basically what I did, minus the Flex Plate I guess..
cept its not a 68rfe, its a 62te lol
Hey there, loved the video, I have a ram 2500 with a 68rfe and when it shifts it sounds and feels like it shifts 2-3 times before it locks up and has a big flair in between shifts. I'm not sure if it's going out or if that's normal. I would like not to have problems but if I do I'd like to build it right.
That’s not normal.
Ram BEAST Projects that sucks because it only has 60,000 miles. Maybe I'll give you guys a call
@@tomhanson329 is the truck deleted? When I deleted my 2012 it had around 65k...JUST AN ENGINE TUNE****.....I immediately noticed a strange flair/shift/lock up/whatever(only around 20-35mph light throttle/acceleration from a slow roll/stop).....put a trans tune in the truck and instantly gone!!!
dirtydan no it's all stock, it has just over 60,000 miles not deleted. It slips and acts crazy when I really get on it and then shifts into over drive at super low rpm.
@@tomhanson329 Ehhh...doesnt sound good...have you tried turning off O.D./TOWHAUL??
Okay. So im looking for information and input, great video by the way! I have a 2015 ram 2500 laramie, its bone stock, i plan to leave it that way or do some small longevity mods as i plan to keep this truck a very long time, i pull a 16 foot enclosed everyday in spring summer and fall. Total weight including truck is about 13000 lbs. The dealer just put a new 68rfe as i had the clutches burn up and the od accumulator piston blow through the cheap plate. Chrysler has told me this is an updated trans but couldnt tell me what was upgraded. Im looking to beef up the trans but only do whats needed not over and above. If anyone has suggestions i would greatly appreciate the advice!!!
Are you local to me?
I wish I was, watching from windsor ontario canada, right accross from detroit michigan.
Ram BEAST Projects If i was, i would drive straight to andys thats for sure!
Ok, so at bare minimum I would suggest getting the following: 1. RevMax ValveBody, 2. RevMax Filter Adaptor, 3. RevMax Billet Flex Plate, 4. RevMax Triple Disc Converter, 5. Deep Trans Pan, 6. Overhaul Kit & 7. *Most Important** Sonnax Clutch Drum Upgrade.
Ram BEAST Projects i really appreciate the help! Where do you order the revmax stuff at revmax.com? Also i seen that sonnax drum. Looks like a great upgrade. I will defiantly look into those parts tonight (if im able) just cracked the whiskey bottle and about to tie one on! Enjoy the football game if your watching!!! If i have any questions for you i will defiantly hit you back up on this thread! Thanks again, your brother from a cummins mother!!!
Hellcat X 2 muscle car guy here & new to the diesel universe. Just got a 2018 Tradesman Cummins Ram w/G56 manual, so I'm learning. 🤔 Anyway although the Aisin equipped trucks seem to be the "gold standard", I like how every inch of the 68RFE has been worked out and solved. I won't shy away from a 68RFE truck if I ever need to make the decision. I'd just factor in the upgrade. Thx! Nice video & info! 👌
You’re welcome & I agree with you. I wouldn’t shy away from the 68RFE either. PS I want a Hellcat! Haha
Haha 😄 Hellcats are neat. More available & cheaper than ever as well! I recommend the Charger for you! 👍 I don't race or beat on mine. They're just good reliable cars. Only mods are K&N drop in filters & wider rear wheels & tires. TrackHawks are coming down in price too. Very broad bandwidth to that platform! My original intent was to get a TrackHawk for the 4 season versatility, but all of a sudden after following diesel stuff on TH-cam & research, I traded my daily 2005 F150 (good truck & took care of it) for a clearance 2018 3500 crew cab silver 6' bed tradesman G56. I just about daily it. I'm looking into a South Bend clutch & would like to tune it to the stock power level of the 2018 68RFE trucks, retaining all the stock emissions stuff etc... It's already way more than I need. Lol! 😄
Leonard Rice
Welcome to the diesel brotherhood buddy and you started in the right place. Although all 3 will forever participate in the horsepower/torque war, the straight-6 Cummins is the gold standard in durability for which all others are measured. It will never tire, if it gets fuel it will always fire. I’m an original owner of a 2000’ Cummins quad cab and it still feels as good as the day I bought it. Even the trans has held up without incident! And if you’ve not heard, once you get diesel in your veins...😄
I’m envious of your 1-ton commercial man-trans and have been drooling over them for a year now.
I’ll say this to whoever will listen; the day someone creates a drop-in Eaton-Fuller swap (with on board air hi/lo) for these beasts, people will be beating their doors down for torquey Cummins ‘n 9-speed big rig shifting!
PS: take care of that high pressure injector pump with good lift pump and consistent fuel filter changes (perhaps upgrade to the FASS air/water separator) ‘cause if you damage it... oh Nelly, damn is it expensive!. I know first-hand😭
*suncoast enters chat*
Crazy timing, I was just today trying to figure out what to do about my 2011 68rfe. It is not Dead but, it acts funny...
Might be on its way... 😳
9:25 says you gotta “cut a corner”
Almost a year later. How many more miles before you need to replace transmission again? I figure you can get 12 to 18 months per 68RFE, so you are getting close to having to replace it.
Build it better & it was last longer. So far so good, although it’s no longer mine. Started a new project
Mehnn Steve that’s what’s up love the beast no matter what 💪🏿
Thanks John!
7:02 says “kinda like cuttin a corner” video states “DONT CUT ANY CORNERS”
wth is with all the commercials, joke
Superb video and very educational... Just getting tired of those F-11 spray cleaner/wax videos lol... people don't understand how much more harm it does to clearcoat.
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What’s the phone number for this garage? Where’s it located?
The Jp Shop 610-458-1977 thejpshop.net
The last place I want touching my truck is a freekn stealer, I mean dealer. They are incompetent.
Don’t modify anything with a 68rfe in your truck. No tuning - no big tires - no nothing them with good maintenance the transmission should last
True, but where’s the fun in that... haha
You lost me at pacifica
wow new dodge trucks already having to spend thousands to fix the transmissions and many other issues!! I'll stick to my tundra.
That’s what happens when you add 150HP+ to some a trans that wasn’t designed to hold it. We made it better.
I wonder if Andy has dealt with the “chirp” between shifting 3 to 4 in these 68rfe transmissions. My 14 mega cab has it some under moderate acceleration
My truck still does it from time to time. I heard that RevMax has solved that issue.
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