Man I was watching some older videos, I had to say this. You two have lost so much weight. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Truly amazing. Your an amazing person congrats on your health congrats on your truck back on the road and congrats to 6K Followers!!!
That fleece coolant bypass looks awesome... kind of have to agree with you though dont think it would be easy to put on with the trans in place. Awesome vid like always keep them coming
Steve, I have a 2012 Cummins and I have literally done everything you are doing and then some. Built trans, coolant bypass, hpp ezlynk, and many more. I am not sure what your factory thermostat is, being a newer year truck (190 deg?) but I had to change mine from 190 to match the one that came with the fleece kit, 180. My coolant temp was fluctuating until I did that. Just another recommendation, with your truck now able to put 550ish hp to the ground, your next "mod" should be head studs. Trust me, I said "I don't need them, I have a factory turbo." Don't be like me, Stud your head.
Thanks Jon, studs are in the planning. My truck has a 180F thermostat, I’ll have to keep an eye on the temperatures. So far, I haven’t noticed anything crazy.
Jon Storms - 2010 - 2012 trucks with tuning are notorious for blowing HGs. Was this with HPP's tuning? All of the ones I've read about were using the Mini Maxx or Smarty jr, and seemed to be caused from too much timing. This isn't a concern with 13+ trucks until you are pushing 45+psi boost which the stock turbo is incapable of on stock fuel. He only needs studs if he gets a bigger turbo and bigger injectors, but then he'll need a bigger CP3, bigger lift pump, HD valve springs, and HD push rods to support the other mods.
@@monsterram6617 I had a mini maxx before and I had crazy egts so I changed to Ez-Lynk through hpp. I also have a s465 second gen swap and they were still high.. Even on low tunes..
Love the gear videos. If I wasn't 12 hours away I'd have them guys do my 4:10 swap. But then again maybe I'll fine a place to ride side by sides out there and make the drive.
Hey I just watched your Trans upgrade / coolant bypass Video an you were talking about some Rust prevention I feel your pain on that subject. I live in Pennsylvania too An have a 4th Gen You need to Check out fennel coat they do a Spray grease concoction on the undercarriage . A friend of mine has An 05 Cummins an had this coating done years ago an he has Zero rust an it looks great the only down fall is that greas gets on everything when you work on it in including yourself might want to wear a jumpsuit lol
I wouldn't worry about that warranty, theres a new or old law or act that the dealer has to prove that your aftermarket add one actually caused the problems your trying to warranty. A coolant bypass is only going to help keep things cool so your winning on that part. Thanks for this video and information. Now I can do mine lol
Please feel free to correct me if wrong and read through the attached link but the way it was explained to me by my greenville dodge was that the provider of the warranty has to in fact prove without a reasonable doubt that your change or aftermarket addition cause the failure of parts or items under said warranty. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
Tony Turner - While this is true, there's one part of the puzzle that is missing: dealerships can refuse to do any warranty work until the truck is returned to stock condition. That means your lift, your tires, anything you've done to the engine, transmission, differentials, etc, etc. all must be removed. This bypasses the Magnuson-Moss Act entirely and puts the owner in a potentially worse situation where they would have to spend thousands of dollars getting the truck back to stock just to save money on a potentially less-costly repair. It's also worth mentioning that this was a powertrain failure and it is very reasonable that tuning the engine to make more power caused or contributed to the transmission failure. It would be different if he had a malfunctioning sun-roof and they told him bigger tires were the cause, then refused to cover it under warranty. In this circumstance you'd probably have a case, but if the dealership wanted to be A-holes they could *still* refuse to fix it until it was made stock. Btw even *if* the dealership covered this 100% under warranty, Steve would eventually wind up right back where he was a few weeks ago because he'd be getting a stock 68rfe, not one built with upgraded internals which is what he needs at this point in his build.
I guess I should of mentioned this in one of the videos. I actually went to the dealership for the transmission OD slippage & an issue w/ the D/S front panel. I was curious to see if they would even entertain it. I would have let them swap it, just so I could get by a little longer until I could afford the MIGHTY RevMax 850 68RFE. I know that it would be a matter of time until I would probably toast the OD again on a stock transmission. Well, the dealership wouldn't even submit the transmission for warranty replacement, because I installed an aftermarket RevMax valve body. The dealership's RO read "The customer will have to take their vehicle back to the shop that installed the aftermarket valve body". They did however cover the door panel replacement. Now, I just need to find the time to give my truck up for a day at the dealership for something that would only take me 15 minutes to install. LOL
Ram BEAST Projects - Hey, at least you tried! About the 850, I was speaking with Tom when purchasing my trans last year and couldn't decide which one to get. He said that the 850 is primarily for racing applications and that it has softer clutches that wear out reasonably fast and require periodic refreshing (rebuilding). For street use, Tom said the 700 with the billet steel center support is the way to go. It's advertised for 700whp but people have reported making over 900whp with no slippage. So far, this thing is bullet proof; burnouts, boosted launches, WOT 5th & 6th gear changes, you name it... although I'm only around 550whp right now so we'll see once I put more fuel to this sucker what happens! Basically, if you need to hold over 900whp it's better to do a 48re swap since they can hold much more power for less. However, it's a couple grand for the harness and other parts to make the swap so there is some "investment" cost going that route. Any way you slice it though, a built transmission for these trucks is expensive. Hell, I even looked into doing an Allison swap since people rave about them. Found a place in Florida and was quoted about $13,000 with a built 650whp Suncoast Allison. This was way more than I was willing to spend for that low of HP rating. Contrast that with the RevMax700 68rfe at $9,900 installed, 2-year unlimited mile warranty, and $1000 rebuilds for the rest of ownership. Let's put it this way, that extra $3k paid for my 2nd gen swap and left me with room to grow!
I don't think you need that bracket. I haven't had one on mine for over 20k miles. It sees plenty of punishment and nothing so far. I did add the ATS 68rfe brace though ($189) which you *can* install with the trans in the truck in about 20 minutes. Cheap insurance for a cracked case which essentially means you need a new trans. Can't wait to see the test drive! 👍
Dynoed at 530HP & almost 1000 ftlbs of torque. So far so good, don’t worry we’ll be turning it up to 600’s at some point. I’m already planning the fueling upgrades. Keep watching the videos.
Nissan is screwing up. You can't tell anyone missing a tire rotation caused a transmission to go out. I would sue. More than likely it is just a piss poor dealership
So I hear 🤣 When are we going to collaborate on something? We’re practically neighbors! Maybe a Cecil County Dragway night or something. I can launch the drone for some of your passes. I think our subscribers would love it. Anyway, keep up the good work! I watch all of your videos. 👍🏻
Fleece bypass is prone to leaking. A better option is the Stainless Diesel bypass. Works off pressure. When things heat up the pressure increases and it opens up. Also, having that thermostat in the fleece bypass. What a pain when that goes bad. You have to drop your trans to undo the bypass. Just a poor design all around.
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Man I was watching some older videos, I had to say this. You two have lost so much weight. It hasn't gone unnoticed. Truly amazing. Your an amazing person congrats on your health congrats on your truck back on the road and congrats to 6K Followers!!!
Thanks bro!
It’s easy to install w/ transmission in!! The hardest part is pop’s that freeze plug!!
Hell yeah Steve! Glad she’s back up and running.
That fleece coolant bypass looks awesome... kind of have to agree with you though dont think it would be easy to put on with the trans in place. Awesome vid like always keep them coming
Thanks Adam!
Awesome as always.Just wish we would’ve seen the process of putting the transmission inners back together. 👍👍👍👍👍
I tried, the builder didn’t want to be on camera.
Love the channel! Watching your videos makes me so glad I bought a G56! Hope you have better luck with the rebuild brother.
Glad the Beast is BACK!
Steve, I have a 2012 Cummins and I have literally done everything you are doing and then some. Built trans, coolant bypass, hpp ezlynk, and many more. I am not sure what your factory thermostat is, being a newer year truck (190 deg?) but I had to change mine from 190 to match the one that came with the fleece kit, 180. My coolant temp was fluctuating until I did that. Just another recommendation, with your truck now able to put 550ish hp to the ground, your next "mod" should be head studs. Trust me, I said "I don't need them, I have a factory turbo." Don't be like me, Stud your head.
Thanks Jon, studs are in the planning. My truck has a 180F thermostat, I’ll have to keep an eye on the temperatures. So far, I haven’t noticed anything crazy.
Oh, and the Fleece bypass can be installed with the transmission in, it is a GIANT pain in the ass though. LOL
I would love to see that! OMG 🤣
Jon Storms - 2010 - 2012 trucks with tuning are notorious for blowing HGs. Was this with HPP's tuning? All of the ones I've read about were using the Mini Maxx or Smarty jr, and seemed to be caused from too much timing. This isn't a concern with 13+ trucks until you are pushing 45+psi boost which the stock turbo is incapable of on stock fuel. He only needs studs if he gets a bigger turbo and bigger injectors, but then he'll need a bigger CP3, bigger lift pump, HD valve springs, and HD push rods to support the other mods.
@@monsterram6617 I had a mini maxx before and I had crazy egts so I changed to Ez-Lynk through hpp. I also have a s465 second gen swap and they were still high.. Even on low tunes..
Love the gear videos. If I wasn't 12 hours away I'd have them guys do my 4:10 swap. But then again maybe I'll fine a place to ride side by sides out there and make the drive.
Let me know!
Glad to see the beast back In progress Stevie hope one day when I get my first Cummings u give me more pointers ❤️💛💚
Excellent video... thank you
Good guys having good times, with a great truck. Love it. Keep up the good vids.
Thank you
Cant wait to see how the 68rfe runs! Maybe ill switch over to 4th gen one day if she runs well! Great video, great info.
Trying to get that video uploaded today.. Thank you!
Awesome as usual! Fingers crossed the test drive is good!
Hey I just watched your Trans upgrade / coolant bypass Video an you were talking about some Rust prevention I feel your pain on that subject. I live in Pennsylvania too An have a 4th Gen You need to Check out fennel coat they do a Spray grease concoction on the undercarriage . A friend of mine has An 05 Cummins an had this coating done years ago an he has Zero rust an it looks great the only down fall is that greas gets on everything when you work on it in including yourself might want to wear a jumpsuit lol
I’m definitely going to check that out. Thanks for the info! 👍🏻
I wouldn't worry about that warranty, theres a new or old law or act that the dealer has to prove that your aftermarket add one actually caused the problems your trying to warranty. A coolant bypass is only going to help keep things cool so your winning on that part. Thanks for this video and information. Now I can do mine lol
Thanks Tony! 😊 Good to know 👍🏻
Please feel free to correct me if wrong and read through the attached link but the way it was explained to me by my greenville dodge was that the provider of the warranty has to in fact prove without a reasonable doubt that your change or aftermarket addition cause the failure of parts or items under said warranty.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
Tony Turner - While this is true, there's one part of the puzzle that is missing: dealerships can refuse to do any warranty work until the truck is returned to stock condition. That means your lift, your tires, anything you've done to the engine, transmission, differentials, etc, etc. all must be removed. This bypasses the Magnuson-Moss Act entirely and puts the owner in a potentially worse situation where they would have to spend thousands of dollars getting the truck back to stock just to save money on a potentially less-costly repair.
It's also worth mentioning that this was a powertrain failure and it is very reasonable that tuning the engine to make more power caused or contributed to the transmission failure. It would be different if he had a malfunctioning sun-roof and they told him bigger tires were the cause, then refused to cover it under warranty. In this circumstance you'd probably have a case, but if the dealership wanted to be A-holes they could *still* refuse to fix it until it was made stock.
Btw even *if* the dealership covered this 100% under warranty, Steve would eventually wind up right back where he was a few weeks ago because he'd be getting a stock 68rfe, not one built with upgraded internals which is what he needs at this point in his build.
I guess I should of mentioned this in one of the videos. I actually went to the dealership for the transmission OD slippage & an issue w/ the D/S front panel. I was curious to see if they would even entertain it. I would have let them swap it, just so I could get by a little longer until I could afford the MIGHTY RevMax 850 68RFE. I know that it would be a matter of time until I would probably toast the OD again on a stock transmission. Well, the dealership wouldn't even submit the transmission for warranty replacement, because I installed an aftermarket RevMax valve body. The dealership's RO read "The customer will have to take their vehicle back to the shop that installed the aftermarket valve body". They did however cover the door panel replacement. Now, I just need to find the time to give my truck up for a day at the dealership for something that would only take me 15 minutes to install. LOL
Ram BEAST Projects - Hey, at least you tried! About the 850, I was speaking with Tom when purchasing my trans last year and couldn't decide which one to get. He said that the 850 is primarily for racing applications and that it has softer clutches that wear out reasonably fast and require periodic refreshing (rebuilding). For street use, Tom said the 700 with the billet steel center support is the way to go. It's advertised for 700whp but people have reported making over 900whp with no slippage. So far, this thing is bullet proof; burnouts, boosted launches, WOT 5th & 6th gear changes, you name it... although I'm only around 550whp right now so we'll see once I put more fuel to this sucker what happens!
Basically, if you need to hold over 900whp it's better to do a 48re swap since they can hold much more power for less. However, it's a couple grand for the harness and other parts to make the swap so there is some "investment" cost going that route. Any way you slice it though, a built transmission for these trucks is expensive. Hell, I even looked into doing an Allison swap since people rave about them. Found a place in Florida and was quoted about $13,000 with a built 650whp Suncoast Allison. This was way more than I was willing to spend for that low of HP rating. Contrast that with the RevMax700 68rfe at $9,900 installed, 2-year unlimited mile warranty, and $1000 rebuilds for the rest of ownership. Let's put it this way, that extra $3k paid for my 2nd gen swap and left me with room to grow!
I don't think you need that bracket. I haven't had one on mine for over 20k miles. It sees plenty of punishment and nothing so far.
I did add the ATS 68rfe brace though ($189) which you *can* install with the trans in the truck in about 20 minutes. Cheap insurance for a cracked case which essentially means you need a new trans.
Can't wait to see the test drive! 👍
Oh man... Thanks god the trans doesn’t need to come back out again for that one. As always, thanks for the awesome advice!
Where does this ATS brace actually mount?
On the top of the trans.
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I was gonna do the fleece by pass but came to the same conclusion as you, there is no way that is going in a 4th gen with the trans in
Yes you can ;-) - Fleece Performance
Let me see it! 🤣
Proof you can do the coolant bypass with transmission still in
th-cam.com/video/IsixDU6lu30/w-d-xo.html
Nathan Snyder let me know what you think!
Great video keep it up what's the hp rating of the new trans when set and done?
There is none, but I hope to be safe for awhile hovering around 500HP.
Future video on my channel. Coolant bypass install with transmission still in. It can be done.
I can’t wait to watch! 😜
Can update us if you noticed a difference in egt or cooling with the fleece upgrade.
Definitely
Did we ever get an update?
I understood about 0.1% of this... But I love the intro cuz.
Haha Thanks Tony!
Another great video
Thanks Steve!
Well no turning back now, might as well 2nd gen swap it with a steedspeed
It’s coming! 😉
I have a 2018 Ram 2500 Longhorn it has 108K miles and I just have to ask what was the cost of this transmission rebuild....
Contact CCT (info in the video description & my website) for quote.
I think I would have to swap for that Ford Vic.
🤮
What kind of power is the trans able to handle now?
Dynoed at 530HP & almost 1000 ftlbs of torque. So far so good, don’t worry we’ll be turning it up to 600’s at some point. I’m already planning the fueling upgrades. Keep watching the videos.
Sweet I’m torn between fleece and air dog for fueling I’m at 498 with just Motor opps tuning now but have upgrade plans
I’m definitely going w/ Fleece.
Ram BEAST Projects my only concern was fleece states it only supports up to 800hp
Yeah, I’m I won’t be passing that with my build. Shooting for mid-600’s
ordinarily when major transmission and engine work is done the cab is removed from the frame.
Definitely not needed...
Chris L. - This isn't a Ford...
Nissan is screwing up. You can't tell anyone missing a tire rotation caused a transmission to go out. I would sue. More than likely it is just a piss poor dealership
Coolant bypass CAN be installed with the trans in place, trust me... I know a guy 😉
So I hear 🤣 When are we going to collaborate on something? We’re practically neighbors! Maybe a Cecil County Dragway night or something. I can launch the drone for some of your passes. I think our subscribers would love it. Anyway, keep up the good work! I watch all of your videos. 👍🏻
@@BEASTProjects Gotta get it back in one piece first!
I see that! 🤣
Just in case in you're needing proof!
Fleece coolant bypass installed w/ trans. Still in
th-cam.com/video/IsixDU6lu30/w-d-xo.html
Fleece bypass is prone to leaking. A better option is the Stainless Diesel bypass. Works off pressure. When things heat up the pressure increases and it opens up. Also, having that thermostat in the fleece bypass. What a pain when that goes bad. You have to drop your trans to undo the bypass. Just a poor design all around.
They aren't Prone to leaking- We had some faulty lines in the past that have been corrected.
@@nathansnyder1052 Thanks for the update. Good to know.
Fleece wouldn’t build it if it didn’t work!
I wouldn't feel very confident having to explain things to your mechanic! Look elsewhere
They specialize in transmissions, not diesel engines. I have total faith & confidence in their work, otherwise I wouldn’t go to them.