F80 M3 Comp DCT vs Camaro 10AT LT1 vs Challenger 8AT 392 T/A. Drag and Roll Race.
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- F80 M3 Comp DCT vs Camaro 10AT LT1 vs Challenger 8AT 392 T/A. Drag and Roll Race.
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Hey guys! First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for this video and to the owners of the Challenger and Camaro. Bimmer-Tech has found out that this tune can make the car potentially gain up to 100bhp. I was not aware of such a thing until today. Initially, I was told the car would not gain any power, I confirmed a few times. The tune maker claims now, that the car can gain up to 100bhp with this new map, I was told initially otherwise. I didn’t want the M3 tuned, never planned. So this is unfortunately not a stock M3, again I want to apologize to everyone.
It sucks that they weren’t honest or better informed about the tune. Not sure I would trust them now
Hi guys! We would like to apologize for this misunderstanding and clear out some confusion. Our tunes were always designed to provide extra power & torque, but our focus was always also on engine longevity (making it run cooler), and fuel consumption (making it less thirsty). Hence the miscomunication between us and Sam. Cheers guys!
😂 Got you good. Damage is done now, enjoy it! Get that crank hub taken care of if you plan on keeping the car long term
Car has the crankhub replaced already :) and it’s now back in stock. Car was also tuned before my ownership :)
Idk about 100 hp but u did gains some power, good races
thats cheating a tuned car vs stock cars
"Tune doesn't add horsepower" .... "OMG it is so much quicker now" SMH
It’s throttle response rather than bhp
As someone who just got a professional tune, it adds BHP. Went from 182whp to over 220whp. Fuel to air ratio, maps and timings make a huge diff. I also have a pedal commander; if I'm stuck with my car for the foreseeable future might as well have fun with it
You can have a tune for the transmission. It shifts faster and keeps you in the power band longer without adding power.
@@SamCarLegion Am I wrong or quicker throttle response doesn’t change anything anymore once you have your foot down ? Once you’re rolling the car shouldn’t feel “so much faster” ?
Of course it adds horsepower, who is Sam kidding?
Cmon. That bmw is well over 500hp. New title. Sam the Sandbagger.
I don't think this was far at all. You have a tune vs stock cars. I lost interest right away after knowing the M3 was gonna win every race because it was modified. Not a good way to compare cars.
The Camaro can be had for under $40,000 USD. That's the real win.
No one really cares about camaros, hence why they’re being discontinued.. RIP.
Cus nobody wants it lol
The real win is a F30/32 BMW N55 that’s not allergic to modifications….that’s real value and the perception it gives❤ FYI, Alpina B3 uses the N55 platform😊
@@Wicked_RotF30 fun fact alpina b3 comes with 404hp n55 variant higher then any factory produced b58.
Don't listen to the BMW snobs. There's a reason no one likes them...... They've been butt hurt for years since the Camaro has been slapping BMWs at tracks for years now, while being half the price
The tune definitely adds HP in a sense, because you're sitting at the peak power band for longer times.
It absolutely makes more power. Just cleaning up the afr's, add whp and wtq. A motor that runs more efficiently will net higher numbers, cooler engine temps, better fuel efficiency (partial throttle), faster tip-in etc
Tune all those and see where you stand
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Better dont tune the BMW, thats the easiest way we had to go.
Lt1 is the winner here at 40k regardless if it lost
... and will likely last much longer and cheaper to maintain... So double winner
If only they had a 4 door platform with the LT1 motor for
@@CPAJayhawk
They did 6 years ago. Granted it came with the LS3 instead of the LT1. Chevy did it dirty and didn't advertise it. Essentially fully loaded at $45k
The best bang-for-the-buck out there
@@99-Zulu Yeah and now they are worth more than what they sold for new. They had outdated tech even at the time they were new, and the LS3 was old as well. The rebadging of Holden vehicles has been a huge mistake by GM. They are always way behind in tech, and have a short production run that leaves owners in a bad spot when it comes to replacement parts that are bespoke to the car. I learned my lesson after owning a GTO, i liked the SS, the G8 was ok, but never again. The 6th gen camaro/ATS/CTS platform would be great for a V8 performance 4 door chevy.
A tuned twin turbo M3 versus stock v8's 😂😂😂. This piggyback tune on the M3 is equivalent to the Carbahn piggyback. Gives you 30-40 horsepower and torque gain with increased throttle response but keeps the car within limits to not hurt the engine
He clearly just wanted to show off by beating up less expensive cars lmao
@@f8widescat392 I agree, not even the cost difference but a tuned twin turbo car versus 2 N/A cars 😂😂😂😂 Ego boost
@@supersportlt1 A Zl1 or hellcat would make him rethink his purchase lmao.
@@f8widescat392 He's already rethinking his purchase that's why he got the tune and claimed he had no idea it added power 😂😂😂😂. The stock B58 Supra already out ran him a week ago 😂😂😂
That m4 isn't stock smh
Now lets compare prices too???
you get what you pay for
@@MikeyG003
ZL1 beats the piss out of BMWs
Better chassis with MagnaRide
And supercar performance. Stop it
@@WindyCity1992 where’s the ZL1 in this video? Lmao ZL1s still get bullied by bmws 😂 go back to driving your keyboard kid.
@@WindyCity1992 don’t make me pull up fbo zl1 videos getting feelings hurt by just downpipe and tune F8x cars. Let’s not even talk about the g8x. Also, m4csl beat your holy grail zl1 on the Nurburgring. Try again. You can’t afford either anyways
Do the same upgrade to the Camaro and its faster. The Camaro is the better performance car specifically the 1LE and its not even close
great races...the M3 is very potent right out of the box so the results shouldn't really surprise too many people. Given the weight of the Challenger I think it did much better than I expected.
Same :)
I agree. Hard to compete with more advanced tech that’s tuned and lighter. Would like to see all these cars tuned to see the difference although it won’t matter because the bmw is turbo and not even tuned for power with extra boost up top for hp and tq gains but rather optimized for the power it is. Looks like bmw has a lot of room for optimizing tune factory. Thanks for the comparison Sam, good video.👍
Sam has got to have the channel with the most BS I have ever seen
Thank you
@@SamCarLegion it's not a compliment....smh
No, I’m just replying back so I can make some more money, so thanks for that
@SamCarLegion dude it don't matter your channel will never take off
@SamCarLegion and that's not how it works...my God you know nothing about how TH-cam works as well as cars.. smh they let any clueless moron start a channel.
The tune adds no HP? Don’t think you know what you’re talking anodyne..😂
Would have been better if he ran a ZL1 and a Hellcat instead of the non boosted versions. Not really an equal or even fair comparison. Not only are they closer to the same price range of the M3, they are also boosted engines like the M3.
I can do that too 😂
He should bring out the M8 :) to keep it fair as well we all know an M8 is gonna destroy both of those
@@billnye5183 So M8 vs Hellcat Redye Jailbreak? Or go all out with the Demon 170 for still much less cash for that M8 to trounce in a straight line race? 🤔
@@billnye5183
The M8 is awd
It's literally slow without it.
Before seeing the race, I predict that Sam should change his "Let's roll" to "Let's spin!". lol
Unprepped surface, no burnouts allowed. Very interesting match-up for the rolling race!
M3 from a dig ost likely, but I'll take the Camaro on a roll.
Should be a good race either way!!!
I love how the 392 isn't even mentioned😂
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned
from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the
Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025
on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas
station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station fuel
pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in
the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems,
turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and
New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be
done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of
crime here, called emissions and smoke crime!!!!
Would rather see stock cars just race!! No ECU or anything added just stock!
A tune on force induction cars is such an advantage, even over a tuned NA car. Plus that BMW is unrated from the factory. Great runs
Sam needs to understand that if you can see someone's whole car in your mirrors, it's not a close race! 😂😂😂
The f80 m3 comp makes about 450whp which is about 517 crank hp. They are underrated from factory. Plus a DCT and it makes sense. The m3 is also 200lbs lighter than the Camaro. Also the Camaro makes 400whp = 460 crank hp. And both cars are doing the exact same 1/4 mile times as stated by each OEM. So this is basically stock vs stock cars. The f80 m3 is pretty damn fast for an old car
Either way the m3 would have beaten the Camaro even if it was stock
The challenger and charger 392s are big boats. Most other cars with the same horsepower range beat them easily. Even the Audi RS3 that only has 401 horsepower easily blow the doors of these boats.
True but at least they can serve the week without a mechanic because nothing drains a wallet faster than Germany junk
@@Welcometofacsistube Having owed an Audi, (and know several people with BMW’s and Audi’s), I can testify to the accuracy of your statement. You should either be a mechanic, or have a best friend that works on German cars.
You clowns are full of shit. I bitch slap European cars on the reg.
@@Welcometofacsistube lmao idk what German junk you’re getting but the vehicles made in Germany don’t break down like this my bmw made in Germany has been rock solid with over 100K miles
@@billnye5183probably some old rusted out bmw they had when they were 16
It’s not nice! Tuned bmw vs stock muscle cars!
Wouldn't matter m3 is almost 700 lbs lighter.
It’s not really a tune
@@SamCarLegion then disable it for the videos.... lol
@@Whatzitmatter it was just for this video
"Tune doesn't add HP" Come on man. You need to be more serious with your content.
That’s not how you shift an 8 speed automatic. You leave it in drive, press the paddle to the desired gear, and floor it and let the computer shift it. You would think “professionals” would know the car’s better.
Exactly smh.
We did auto and manual shift exactly on both cars. Similar mode for both cars.
Thats not true with dodge... you manually drop or auto mode leaves you in the wrong gear. The trick with dodge is to start manual mode and then put it back into automatic as the laggy tach causes you to shift at the wrong rpms or hit the rev limiter.
I love how he says that the tune is just Going to make the car shift faster 😆 But you know to really make it fair Since you're putting 1 of the best BMW M3 Competition Which I'm pretty sure doesn't go for 40k You should try one of the best cameras like a tuned Z28 OR ZR1 Camaro And see how that race goes
Ok so now tune the other cars as well? Very biased and pointless video
Not to mention you jumped with the bimmer everytime
Well done lads! Fun video. Good showing for the M3. Shoutout Staz for another blast down the track in the LT1. I'll miss that car.
i have a 2023 3LT camaro rs v6 10 speed auto with the npp quad tips from the factory. id love to see it make an appearance on this channel, lots of the cars you race it will either do good against or win honestly i think people would enjoy seeing it beat an rt challenger of any year lol btw i made my camaro happen right when i turned 20! build y’all’s credit scores and save up this can be you!
Why didnt you do a 3way race as usual . I love comparing shifts and just watching how it plays out in the power band.
With the bumpy track that is not very wide, and three powerful cars that are RWD, it was probably safer 2 by 2 races.
The bmw m3 doesn't have the best launch in the world but I'd always bet on it to beat those American muscle cars
The roll races are when things get interesting
Yeah but the American muscle cars didn’t have tunes. Not a very fair comparison IMO
@@Hellenkeller777 I'm a Mopar fan and I still admit that even if the 392 was tuned it would still loose to the M3.I hope that 392 was running on 275s.
Camaros aren't muscle cars.
Neither are challengers.
Both are pony cars. Just saying
Sam if you think the dodge makes more power its comical lol....Bmw underrates there cars hp and torque by at minimum 50hp on all there turbo cars
There cars?? where?
Bmws are underrated by about 20-25hp and tq, def not 50 😂.
F80 comp is beautiful. I have the F82. What performance.
Sounds like he's shifting the Camaro early and missing out on some top end.
That M is no joke! The S55 is a primal beast.
You need at least S58 to beat the S55
Tuned car vs stock cars is a no brainier the tuned car would win
German ingeneering 20 years ahead of the US.
80k car vs 2 50k cars.
A rolling race without being locked in the right gear isn't a rolling race.
I hope nobody is surprised that a vehicle costing twice as much is faster. Why arent we comparing the cost equivelent such as a Corvette and Hellcat?
Quicker not faster, use the correct word
Hahaha, got a tuned bmw against stock 392s and camaros. Nice video to promote bmw. My 22 scat is tuned, and cammed. I make 505 to the wheels. Id trash that beamer in any run you wanted
saying a tune doesn't add hp , ON A BMW , is diabolical , anything stick with a turbo plus a tune is definitely gaining a bit of power , but anyway while the m3 blows up in 40k miles , the camaro will be all motor built with a cam , heads , e85 , and dog that old bmw
So it’s a tuned M3 vs the others 🤦♂️. The cars are pretty darn equal to begin with, so why do the race with a tune? If the M3 didn’t win and it was tuned, it would be a sad day.
Lt1 needs to slap shift and let that 10 speed do its thing…
Man respectfully this is the worst car channel its always something unfair or wrong we didn’t even get to see the lt1 go against the challenger
Camaro is faster if you just let the computer shift
Yea camaro LT1 faster 10 speed
Challenger should've been in track not sport
Sam stick with the 3 car drag format. I dont get it. You had 3 drivers, so why a 2 car race?
Like your show.
A 3 rwd car race tends to be a bit inconsistent, and it wasn’t about 3 cars racing, it was my car racing 2 other cars. Instead of making 2 videos I put them together.
Confused? So this is a tuned BMW M3 Comp running over 500 hp thanks to the tune, and your running against a bone stock 392 Dodge Challenger and bone stock LT1 Camaro? What’s your point? The BMW clearly has more hp with the tune. So what’s your point? That year of BMW M3 Comp cost $70k plus. That particular Camaro and Challenger are under $50k. A better comparison would be a ZL1 Camaro and a Hellcat. Throw in a Mustang GT 500 for giggles. Then race and see what happens. I wonder if the BMW would be running back to the Bavarian Motor Works with its short tail between its legs. 😂
Well ya when u add boost u add HP but still ur BMW is very impressive for sure.
Tune and down pipes on a s55 is not a small tune those cars stock compare to
Each other why would you run a stock 392 and SS against its rival but tuned the rival when it’s supposed to run those cars stock
I don’t have downpipe?
Fake race must've been set up by BMW or the other guys can't drive. The races were never even straight up starts and the BMW always left first while the other drivers had to react to the BMW already taking off. 🙄
Very non-informative video to learn absolutely nothing from 👌
The fact that you never ran the Camaro against the Challenger shows that you’re more interested in advertising bimmer tech than actually testing the cars. And you dancing around the tune, refusing to acknowledge the advantage is obvious. Trying to say that you’re gapping them bc of throttle response and cooler temps is weak. At least be honest 👎🏻
Without that scam tune he did. The Camaro definitely has that car would probably still beat the Challenger though, but not by much
Why are you dudes running in sport? track is better
You're kidding yourself if you didn't think the tune added any power lol. Yes, stock for stock the F80 is faster than both those cars, but not by that much.
Kinda seems like the guy driving the 392 doesn't really know how to drive that car. (No disrespect).
Sam you have been making videos way too long to continue making the same mistakes. Don’t allow the racers to shift with the paddles, it continues to skew races
People in their cute little autos with their cute little shift paddles. Ya if you're gonna be gay and buy the auto you should know the car shifts better than you can. Just sayin
Oooh this should be a juicy race
Roll racing in the Camaro. Use manual mode to keep it up in the revs..once you hit the cone ..punch it and put it into drive and let it shift itself.
I'm not a dodge fan but I'm know that challenger is not getting beat that bad..looks like hodgie is sandbagging for the sponsor
i don’t think any owner of a dodge challenger or charger should ever expect to win a race unless it’s a hellcat or above
This guy thought he was slick with the tuned car lol anyone who does this knew it was bs. BMWs are slower stock.
We know the M3 is faster, but the best way to race those scats from a roll is to start in manual mode so you get the right gear, but switch to automatic as soon as the race starts because you can't shift better than the car can automatically.
It would end in the same result
Germans make better cars M3 all the way
But it breaks down frequently. Nothing's free.
@@NoName-b5k1e no it doesn't, go do some research before assuming.
@@MikeyG003 not my assumption but widely known and chronic problems
@@NoName-b5k1e Their modern inline 6s are solid as far as I know such as n55, s55, b58 and s58. The m3 in this video is also reliable. Someone hit like 215k miles in one and didn’t have any issues shockingly.
This is a good one , hello from midland texas
If those Challengers didnt weigh as much as a dump truck they'd be quite a bit quicker.
Love the Beamer but sometimes I just dont understand Sam. Why did he tune it?
Sam was cracking me up when he said damn that Camaro is fast as he's putting a monster gap on it😂
😬😬😬
@@SamCarLegion Happy with the matchup just the same, and really impressed with how well your M3 moves out now!👍
Monster gap would be a bit of a stretch.
Hi Sam. Please go on with these amazing races. Awesome.
I follow now your channel.
A new G82 M3 against your F80 M3 Competition with this little software mod should be a close and interesting race !!!
Best wishes Chris
Tx you
the new g80 platform is insane, especially the xdrive.
Guy in the Scat can’t drive
Yea guy in scatpack can't drive
Dodge has never been faster than BMW... The technology is just so apart.
Bmw sounds terrible! What happened to the beautiful inline six engine sound?
I have 650hp in my 335 bmw N54 and nothing on the road comes close.
It didn’t even look like the challenger was lined up with you and hit it at the same time
LOL ain't no way it doesn't add HP, those cars are known to be faster than a M3
Tune dose add power wtf especially in boosted cars
Curious to see how the new Mustang GT Darkhorse edition would do against similar priced cars. Granted those become available soon.
Dark horse ?? 😂😂😂 what a stupid name
At least the Challenger looked good while losing. 💁🏽♂ The BMW though is on another level.
I mean, they're not boosted compared to the m3, also heavier. It was a good video but not a fair race. Get those superchargers in and then we will see
@@mayfieldd357 bro the m3 has less than half the displacement of a scat or a hellcat. It’s a German perfected car Vs an American boat muscle car than can barley take a corner. The m3 is a track ready fine tuned weapon. It’s no debate which is the better car
@Tommy Manning Art stop the dick riding. I own an audi a4, so I love German as well. I appreciate and love cars period. The f80 m3 is 3600+lb vs. a challenger, which is pushing almost 4k lbs. One is turbocharged, and the other naturally aspirated. Why is this hard for you to understand ? Oh yeah, dick riding. Like I said, put the supercharger in the challenger and do a real drag.
@Tommy Manning Art Also, you should check your research. These guys know cars, right? The f80 has a 0-60 of 2.8 vs. the challengers 4.2 seconds. F80 has significantly more torque as well, with the twin turbo, which is also an advantage over NA. You just wanted to act like you knew something when you clearly had a biased opinion from the jump. Even if it lost, you'd still dick ride. You're a clown.
@@tommymanningart8864
M3s can't even beat camaros
On Track. 99% of yall don't even
Go to Track days. All 3 cars have
Steering wheels. Grow up already
For those saying that he tuned his car, go watch his previous videos and his 1/4 mile time is pretty much the same. Those m3s are ridiculously fast!! Definitely faster than the good ole muscle cars!! The v8s sound better though 😂!!!💪👊👍
Someone that pay attention
@@SamCarLegion pays*
Yeah, this shit is rigged for the BMW to win.... 👎🏾
Even without the tune, bmw is rated at the wheels while the other two cars are rated at the crank.
Yall still out here racing n/a hemi vs turbos car. Yea okay next
Big bummer you guys didn’t race the scat pack and lt1 smh
Don’t worry about your gas ⛽️ that’s the least of your worries 😒
Hi want to see which is fastest bmw m2 , m3 or m4. Even how much faster is m240i than m230i. 😜
M3 is such a wannabe mobile. He LT1 camaro is such a nice package
I think a hellcat would be a better match for a tuned M3 Competition
Why the tune?
Very disappointed in this video!
The tuning sounds pretty much exactly like what my pedal commander does for $299… 🤔
About the same but better response from engine to transmission
As someone with a pedal commander, AND in the process of getting a proper tune, I cant wait to feel the difference from what just the pedal commander does
@@reloadingdontshoot1 it’s not a pedal commander just map tweak to get better engine response and transmission
Peddle Comm adds a little zip off the line and crisp throttle response but wont make the vehicle quicker with adding power. I def wouldnt put one of those on anything either.
LoL this tune on the M3c adds 40-60 hp.
Too bad you converted back to stock. Would like to see your M3 vs the 2020 M550i.
Sold it
Both those drivers arent very good. Just saying.
I think bmw is dishonest about the HP on its cars.
That tune probably added 100hp to bmw that’s why he refused dyno lol he cheated big time
I didn’t refuse you dummy