Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs BMW M3 | Who makes the better performance car?

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
  • #BMW #AlfaRomeo #M3
    Alfa Romeo has recently updated its brilliant Giulia Quadrifoglio super saloon, but can it still compete with the likes of the BMW M3? In this twin-test review, CAR magazine’s James Dennison compares both cars in an on-road head-to-head.
    Chapters:
    0:00 - Intro
    1:42 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
    8:58 - BMW M3
    14:18 - Verdict
    Want to stay up to date with CAR's videos? Subscribe here:
    th-cam.com/users/CARmagaz...
    Get more content from Car with a magazine subscription:
    www.greatmagazines.co.uk/car-...
    Get the latest reviews and news from CAR magazine here:
    www.carmagazine.co.uk/
    Follow us at:
    X: @CARmagazine
    Instagram: carmagazine
    Facebook: CAR Magazine
    @JDennisonCars
    CAR is the online edition of CAR magazine, Britain's oldest monthly motoring mag. It's the UK's best and fastest online motoring news service, providing a constant stream of scoops, first drives and official pictures of new cars.
  • ยานยนต์และพาหนะ

ความคิดเห็น • 678

  • @CARmagazineTV
    @CARmagazineTV  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Which gets your vote?
    Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio or BMW M3?

    • @emirkaracaoglu
      @emirkaracaoglu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

      Alfa 🍀

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      How are u guys a car channel and ur going to use bmws on paper numbers 😂 their 0-60 and HP are severely understated

    • @chileshemubanga3594
      @chileshemubanga3594 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Honestly these 2 are my fav(BMW 3 first & Alfa Romeo Giulia qv second) so i'l take em both😂😅

    • @alexluke84
      @alexluke84 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well BMW gives you more options, for any taste you can find something, there is M3 and M3 Competition and M3 CS...there is AWD or RWD, manual or auto, Touring or Coupe or Cabrio versions...you can have even M performance so 340i which is very very good car...not to mention ALPINA versions...also BMW is good at strong diesels, 340d and 330d...all aboce is absent at Alfa, finally 325d/330i and 320d the Apfa has an answer...with Veloce models...that is why they do not sell amazingly, not enough offer...and then they are missing what BMW has with interior options in so many different upholster and colors and seat options...not to even mention Individual program.
      But yeah Alfa looks amazing outside, less inside...I like Alfa...but this time BMW is better (like always in the past when Alfas was underpowered amd fwd mostly)
      I am so sad that Giulia is finished with production this summer...and successor will be EV 👎

    • @radglitch7233
      @radglitch7233 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      M3 without a doubt. My American heart yearns for the forbidden M3 Touring

  • @InvisbalyNoticeable
    @InvisbalyNoticeable 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    I hate giant screens in cars, the Alfa interior is so perfect for me, just a nice little screen that flows wonderfully into the dash, not some giant tablet monstrosity slapped on like an afterthought

    • @powerhp
      @powerhp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree 100%. And you don't know how much it cost Alfa to implement such a customized screen compared to a common tablet slammed on the dashboard. I remember an interview with one of the leaders of the development team talking about this.

  • @urosvukov4948
    @urosvukov4948 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +172

    The Alfa is 7 years older! No one seems to let that sink in. It’s monumental given its age, still.

    • @bc8580
      @bc8580 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Agreed.

    • @Greatadventure124
      @Greatadventure124 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Agreed..Alfa Q🍀 is outdated. Remember when M3 alone on the top for years and along came Alfa and given M3 a run for the money which no one believed possible. They done a great job.

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      7? It debuted in 2015. The G80 released at the end of 2020.

    • @Top_g80comp
      @Top_g80comp 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Greatadventure124 and yet bmw m3/4 sold more cars the Giulia and Stelvio QV combined together ☝️ I wonder why 😄😄😄

    • @TheOverpowered1
      @TheOverpowered1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Top_g80comp lol

  • @JamieCarter-ln1bk
    @JamieCarter-ln1bk 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    I've had the Giulia for 5 years. Competition red. Looks, sounds and drives great. Stands out from the crowd.

    • @jez987s
      @jez987s 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      On my second Guilia - Veloce to QV. Will never sell the QV. It’s a keeper.

    • @Scheltokeeper
      @Scheltokeeper 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@jez987s Even the 280 hp Veloce's are a pleasure to drive! I'm a owner of a 2022 Veloce Q4 and i really love the car.

  • @tumolucky17
    @tumolucky17 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    I own a 2017 gulia quad, and I never want to sell it. The sound and the way it drives is just phenomenal

    • @JoshuaRex-ql4nc
      @JoshuaRex-ql4nc 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Me too

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Me to Stelvio QF other than maybe for Giulia.

    • @JaredDutton-xw4gt
      @JaredDutton-xw4gt 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How’s the motor? Heard for a while that motors not very great. Obviously there’s haters and all that but you own one. How is it?

    • @tumolucky17
      @tumolucky17 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah it’s great, I had a few faults with the fuel pump and fuel line, but all work was carried out with the warranty . So so far so good

  • @mathewleadbitter3975
    @mathewleadbitter3975 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Owned my Alfa quad a year now and absolutely love it. I looked at buying an m3/m4 but the Alfa had me on looks alone let alone how it drives. The bmw was way too common also and the amount of lovely comments I get from strangers on my Alfa just makes the car even nicer.

  • @ramonmedina1974
    @ramonmedina1974 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    If the much older Alfa makes BMW sweat so much, the Alfa must be a damn good car!

    • @giulimarconi1715
      @giulimarconi1715 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Alfas have been making the GERMANS sweat for over 100 years... that is WHY VW GROUP has tried to buy them 3+ times!

    • @Lukas-eh4cf
      @Lukas-eh4cf 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@giulimarconi1715 Sweating when their Alfa has broken down again. (I still love them)

    • @johnkisch240
      @johnkisch240 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Lukas-eh4cfWell i drove 156 2.0 ts and it had no issues. In two years 120 000 km. I totaled it in the end. 😢. My Best and most beautiful car. Now i drvenih Audi A3 2.0 benzin. Its good but no Alfa Romeo.

  • @codean909
    @codean909 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    I love the fact that both of these cars exist and you can pick whichever car speaks to you more.

    • @mathew3293
      @mathew3293 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      best comment

    • @larams61
      @larams61 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Both cars are epic but I prefer Alfa.

    • @FefyGT
      @FefyGT 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I just hate the fact that I can't afford any of them.

  • @MattBHerz7
    @MattBHerz7 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Im a QV owner and admit that the M3 is probably a better car. That said, I still prefer the Italian. I like that it's simpler. All the settings on the bmw and the giant screen would overwhelm me. The Alfa has more soul. Also, an Xdrive M3 will end up costing much more than the QV. Don't get me wrong, love the M3.

    • @jad4ca
      @jad4ca 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I own an xDrive M3 and it is awesome. But I likewise love and respect the QV and really want to drive one.

    • @ALE_POS
      @ALE_POS 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You said correct: soul.

    • @bpp325
      @bpp325 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      what does 'better car' mean?

  • @fatgoose8983
    @fatgoose8983 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I've owned the QV for 4 years and I daily drive it. Rosso Competizione with Sparco carbon seats.
    Beautiful, unique, sexy.. The feel, the sound.
    I'll be ok..

  • @AP-cc1uw
    @AP-cc1uw 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    People forget what sport sedans were originally about. They weren’t track weapons, they were liveable cars with a ton of performance. You’re not supposed to notice the difference because if you’re going fast enough that you need an M3s capabilities you’re losing your license. The reviewer says the M3 is more rewarding at 10/10ths. But this is a road review, I seriously doubt he got the car anywhere close to its limits.
    Taking delivery of a 2024 QV in a few weeks. Test drove the M3. I believe it when people say it would be faster than the Giulia on a track, although obviously I didn’t get to explore it at 10/10ths.
    But the big question is, how often are you able to track these cars? Every weekend? Maybe go M3. A few times a year or less? The Giulia is my pick. It’s a much more well rounded car, the ride isn’t punishing when in A or N mode. Even D is liveable. You’ve always got Race mode if you want a ton of fun. But you can’t really use it responsibly on public roads on a regular basis. And while the M3 is a better track car you also can’t use its capabilities on a regular basis.
    Tom Baker at Chasing Cars has a good comparison between the M3 and the Giulia and I think he gets it right. His take is also consistent with his view on the M550i as the actual modern successor to the M5. A liveable yet very fast and sporty sedan. You WANT a bit of roll in corners, this helps you feel the sensation of speed. If you’re flat you need to go ever faster to feel anything. That’s not what sport sedans should be about.

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      This. And it's 99% as good on track, without punishing your kidneys. MUCH better, advanced suspension design. BMW just makes their cars handle better by putting stiffer springs in.

    • @TsLeng
      @TsLeng 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Correct take. Track performance is irrelevant 100% actually. Because you can have fun at the track with pretty much anything. And a serious track day nut should buy something else rather than an M3 or Giulia

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ho avuto una qv 2022. Ho visto che kw produce un assetto che mantiene tutte le regolazioni DNA. Se una persona ha esigenza di dare un assetto più sportivo ma vivibile alla qv, kW produce l opzione.

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@thomasferrarojr.9772la BMW ha un assetto più rigido ed improntato alla prestazione MA utilizza anche gomme con maggiore impronta a terra ...di diametro esterno più grande e sull anteriore anche più larghe.
      La BMW ha migliore controllo di trazione, ma per godere di queste auto serve metterli off e imparare a guidare ....non andare forte grazie ai controlli elettronici .

    • @CC6Z06
      @CC6Z06 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bmw.....provate a mettere gomme più piccole e strette come la qv,...poi vediamo cosa succede .....e viceversa gomme maggiorate sull alfa, specie davanti.

  • @tommike8830
    @tommike8830 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Giulia QV all day everyday . No need to have fake sounds from speakers 😂

  • @bpowick
    @bpowick 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I honestly think the Giulia is one of the best looking modern four door sedans ever made.

    • @Ronnet
      @Ronnet 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Definitely. After all these years it still puts a smile on my face when I walk to it. And I always have to look back at it after stepping out. There really is nothing out there that compares to it. Which is why it's the car I've owned the longest. The craziest part is that it's also the most reliable car I've ever owned!

  • @twinv6_quadrifoglio
    @twinv6_quadrifoglio 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    QV owner here. Hands down, one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. Sure the interior is a bit dated. However, less is more. The driving experience of the QV, is on a whole different level.

    • @hhh7929
      @hhh7929 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Vieillot ou classique intemporel ?

  • @Rok3y
    @Rok3y 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is, at least to me, the most beautiful car I have ever seen

    • @2112Tix
      @2112Tix 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Beauty and the beast. You choose.

    • @sbchamps1
      @sbchamps1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agrred

  • @jongib6096
    @jongib6096 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    passion, style, sound = Alfa all dayyy

  • @ChrisSmith-fu7fo
    @ChrisSmith-fu7fo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    You can pick up the Giulia for £70k brand new right now, versus that spec Beemer will be nearer £90k with carbon seats & brakes. Not really a straight head-to-head.

  • @SplawnQROD
    @SplawnQROD 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I came out of an f90 m5 to my QV and the QV was hands down the better car to drive. The m5 had a better interior and more tech and more space but if I were to buy one tomorrow it would be the alfa all day and I also had an f82 m4 comp immediately before the m5 which felt heavy and inert next to the QV

  • @sveeny
    @sveeny 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    The M3’s ability to switch between AWD and RWD makes for a killer daily + fun car. Speaking as someone who lives in the alps and has snowy mountains during winter.

    • @xwarped83
      @xwarped83 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds like the perfect car for you.

    • @Bruno-xb2mt
      @Bruno-xb2mt 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just get winter tires lol

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Bruno-xb2mt It's not that simple. I did daily an M2 for 2 years and it's a pretty good winter car with the right tires. But there's a big difference between a voluntary sunday snow blast and having to commute at 6 AM together with many others going up and down slopes hoping you don't have to take off from a full stop on an incline (ever tried that in an M2 on snow?). It's not impossible, but it's quite stressful. I appreciate my GR Yaris permanent all wheel drive that I have now that I live in a mountainous region.

    • @MrsCap2
      @MrsCap2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I m in same situation in Alps but I do feel like going for Giulia anyway. Rear will drive will do it as well in Alps mainly because the road are mainly clean and I gave second car or adding stud tyre on it ? 😇

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrsCap2 I have a RWD second car already so an AWD daily is perfect 😃

  • @zajebancija11
    @zajebancija11 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    What I criticise on this BMW and also Mercedes and others, they’re so expensive and put basically only two tablets as screens in front of the driver with zero design. Alfa has nicely integrated the screen into the dashboard to maintain the old school sportive feeling. At least also Porsche does that. Also the front looks ugly with these huge “kidneys”. But of course the BMW is overall also a dream car. Of course Alfa’s infotainment system is outdated as it’s old. To me Alfa will always have a soul and will not just be car or a thing. 🍀

  • @marcelhandsome6042
    @marcelhandsome6042 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Considering how much older the Alfa is in comparison yet still managing to compete with the BMW in 2024 is a testament to the brilliance of Alfa engineers (skunkworks) under Fiat Chairman Sergio Marchionne all those years ago. However, the new M3 is fresher and it shows Alfa under the Stellantis group has the capability and resources to come up with an epic best-in-class successor and if so Chairman Tavares can use Ferrari engineers if he so chooses!

    • @pierangelofae7621
      @pierangelofae7621 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ferrari non fa parte di Stellantis

  • @diegopetitto7463
    @diegopetitto7463 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Giulia for sure ❤

  • @studiocalder818
    @studiocalder818 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Just looking at it, the Giulia puts me in a good mood, it smells like a real car made for the pleasure of those who drive it, with a functional determination, not the result of fashion.

  • @rmr5184
    @rmr5184 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I absolutely love the M3 touring and as a M340i touring driver the logic choice would be the M3 but that Giulia, ohhh boy! I might prefer the Giulia. I had the chance to drive one for a few hundred chilometers and what a car it is! Just glorious!

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ya anyone who says the Giulia is garbage or just an FCA parts bin car has never driven one. Easily one of if not the best sports sedan steering/chassis ever made. Makes most BMW’s feel numb and lethargic by comparison.

  • @TommyVercetti2002
    @TommyVercetti2002 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I appeal to all people with money and ask them to buy an Alfa Romeo so that in a few years I can also afford a second-hand one. Thank you :)))

  • @nathandepasquale9571
    @nathandepasquale9571 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Heart - Alfa. Head - beemer. Both absolutely incredible. Great video.

  • @aliagidon2242
    @aliagidon2242 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Alfa Romeo love ❤️

  • @andymartinez767
    @andymartinez767 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I am proud to say, i bought the Guilia about a month ago and LOVE it. The drive is excellent, much better than my X5, or Q5, or my Mercedes.

    • @mathew3293
      @mathew3293 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      amazing, got mine this week! can't wait

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ROFL.
      Alfa has sold only 12 Guilia QF last quarter.
      I don't know where is the massive buying force on TH-cam from buying their beloved Alfa.

    • @senseikawasaki2326
      @senseikawasaki2326 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@hassanger8128why you hating so much? Lol

    • @ALE_POS
      @ALE_POS 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hassanger8128True, but notorially people don’t understand cars

    • @p40o
      @p40o 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​​@@hassanger8128Who cares about sales? Don't like the car? It's simple, don't buy it. No one here is forcing you to buy.

  • @craigyirush3492
    @craigyirush3492 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’d take the Alfa dash any day. Love the way the screen is integrated into the dash. Hate the tablet stuck on dash look in the BMW.

  • @rotteneggconcept
    @rotteneggconcept 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I think maybe reviews get super Salons wrong , the question they need to answer is can you put your entire family in the car and drive cross country and when everyone is asleep enjoy your drive. i don't want a stiff ride at 5 tenth cause that's normally where id be driving with the family, a super salon should have rounded edges it should not be track-capable or "Nurburgring" tested, I think ultimately that's why most people end up buying M5 or RS6 ,RS7 or the Giulia, basically I want a fast car that can comfortably carry the family, not race my thoughts any

    • @wasdwasdwwasd
      @wasdwasdwwasd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's perhaps a warm saloon like an S Audi but anything flagship (Ms, 63s, RSes) should be able to be driven at 10/10 without feeling like you're going to slide off the road.

    • @AP-cc1uw
      @AP-cc1uw 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wasdwasdwwasd that’s not how it used to be. The M cars used to be great daily drivers, and yet still you could get the 335i or 535i beneath them. These M cars are too stiff. If the M3 had a suspension setting that was 20-30% softer than the current softest setting that would do it. But I wonder if it’s even possible given the weight.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why, if it's a super saloon it should also be track performance capable, that's what the "super" is for. If you don't need that performance then just go down a model and get an M340i or an M550i, they're way better looking, more comfortable, plenty fast enough in their own right and you save a fair chunk of money for the trouble..
      Why do you want the sportiest version available from launch and then complain when you have to make more compromises?

    • @minio4444
      @minio4444 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      By the “old” standards most of the mid range saloons are “super saloons”. You get 250bhp 2.0l petrol or diesel engines in basic specced models. 3.0l models are plenty quick enough for hauling your family and being quick enough to lose your license. The super saloon term evolved. You do not need them, you want or desire them. You can buy a house in parts of the UK for the m3 money. You don’t compare them to the m3s/m5s of old.

  • @paulmichael3844
    @paulmichael3844 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Brilliant review I would take the Alfa if given the chance

  • @johncreedon7847
    @johncreedon7847 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    A few guys online have had qvs , went to the g80 and are now back in qvs. Speaks volumes.

  • @MB-zt9eo
    @MB-zt9eo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Alfa 🍀 just bought it😎 Rosso Etna full Carbob😜 Top Sedan For me👍

    • @joper90
      @joper90 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fair play, I have a Stevlio quad, be ready for 19-20mpg :) They just evaporate petrol..

    • @MB-zt9eo
      @MB-zt9eo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@joper90no problem i will keep for my sons! 4C to one Giulia QV for the other! Giulia QV grow up the value very soon like it Was for my 4C👍.

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS1983 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Being a hardcore Mechanical lover, I would go for Alfa Romeo. It feels so intuitive and connected for a spirited drive.

  • @urbanstrencan
    @urbanstrencan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    My choice is Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio on the looks alone and the V6 is just awesome add AKRAPOVIČ to it and it's just a symphony. Another great video James :)

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go buy it.
      It is already discontinued

  • @ksoman953
    @ksoman953 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    They still make the QV? What a handsdown gorgeous and timeless car. It wins just for timeless looks. Who buys cars anyways anymore with current prices... lease the BMW buy the Guilia and and park it and just stare at it.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes, that's why no one is buying Alfa.
      People are buying them on the comments here only.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Looks better in the metal.

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hassanger8128yes because sales numbers means something is better 😂. The general public has no taste. It looks far better and is much more fun, engaging, and characterful.

    • @tonunknown1
      @tonunknown1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hassanger8128actually, in 2024, Alfa is the 2nd fastest selling car company in the United States, Mazda being number one.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jjchockey Yes, sales figures means your product is good and people like and buy it.
      When sales figures are so low, it means that people don't like the product and it is a failed one.
      That's why Guilia GV is discontinued.

  • @rooit923
    @rooit923 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Had my Giulia for over 3 years now, and i still love it.
    I agree it's a 7 or 8 tenths of a car but if you don't do track day, that's fine.
    I've had 40 mpg on a long motorway run in it's most efficient mode and very comfortable too.
    Rare and great looking with lots of positive comments.
    I would consider the M3 touring next though..
    Let's not forget the Alfa is now 8 years old and they are still in tests with much newer cars.

  • @caymanblack9567
    @caymanblack9567 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I couldnt care how good the M3 is the Giulia is the best looking saloon by far and the QV is the king.

  • @Athelass
    @Athelass 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Giulia QV please ❤🎉

  • @carenthusiastzaza1643
    @carenthusiastzaza1643 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Another brilliant video! Alfa for me everyday.

  • @fantaildoveman9757
    @fantaildoveman9757 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love my Giulia QF. I'm sure technically the BMW is better, but for me there is no comparison. Aspired to get one for years & now I'm fortunate enough I could treat myself. If you have the opportunity don't hesitate.
    If I've had a bad day, I give it a bit of a blast on the way home & the world becomes good again.

  • @4g5y
    @4g5y 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That Alfa will make you fill with joy when you turnback and look at it after parking.

  • @iRBladeAvEngEr
    @iRBladeAvEngEr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You don't even try to compare Giulia QV and BMW M3 feeling. Speaking about Steering, chassis and gearbox speed (even if it's the same ZF, in Giulia seems faster and much more enjoyable), you can directly understand that Giulia is more rude and engaging.

  • @BmwAlfa123
    @BmwAlfa123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I've owned an M5C, M2C as well as a Giulia and Stelvio QVs. I miss the Alfas way more than the M cars (currently have an M850i "fake M") If I was to pick between these choices, I'd pick the Giulia. there was just something special about ownining a Quadrifolgio whereas the M always felt like a slightly faster 5 series.
    If I was to rank them, it would be Giulia/Stelvio tied for #1, followed by M2C and then M5C.

    • @pasma1983
      @pasma1983 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You just had a toyota starlet man, give up!

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m guessing your M2 was an F87?

    • @BmwAlfa123
      @BmwAlfa123 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joetacchino4470 yes, with a Stage 1 tune.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No BMW owner would say a fake M car on the M850, which is faster and quicker than many super cars.
      I'm really tired of these fake comments who buy Alfa on TH-cam, whereas no one is buying Alfa in reality.
      That's why Alfa has discontinued most of its cars, and it is currently a broke and sad company.

    • @BmwAlfa123
      @BmwAlfa123 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hassanger8128 Thats why i put it in quotation marks because that's what others refer to it.
      My M850i actually has an E85 tune and makes more power than an M8.

  • @bobanppvc
    @bobanppvc 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I love Alfa but new M xdrive cars are probably most complete cars on market...Posibility to switch RWD/AWD modes is something sport cars needed in last 20 years (when hp war srarted between M,AMG and RS).Not just it have AWD but it handles in corners super tight like RWD car

  • @kevbone4809
    @kevbone4809 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, thank you.
    I know all the reviewers talk about chassis when they mean suspension and you made the same mistake when talking about the M3 but they are two completely different things.
    Keep up the good work, great video.

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    I love the M3 but the Giulia is better i take the Giulia for sure!

    • @beastofackworth
      @beastofackworth 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Better or better looking?

    • @flacjacket
      @flacjacket 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@beastofackworthboth

    • @scherpebocht
      @scherpebocht 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Not even close

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​@scherpebocht I can't believe how people could be so wrong. The Alfa is UNDENIABLY better looking. And it is a better driving car. Better steering, more advanced and compliant suspension. There's no doubt. Go drive one and then come back and tell us. You clearly have never driven a Giulia, we know this. 🙄

    • @scherpebocht
      @scherpebocht 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@thomasferrarojr.9772 maybe the GTA but the design is way out dated its almost 10 years old there is no way its better looking, and yes ive driven a Giulia but a rental diesel i didnt like the interior layout and the flippers not being attached to the steering wheel

  • @serpenthx
    @serpenthx 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Just a small correction: previous differential in QV wasn't electronically controlled LSD, it was a TV (torque vectoring) diff, whch by its nature has to be electronically controlled. Not only it was unpredictable (spinning inner wheel from time to time), it would also overheat on track, and it behaved like an open diff until 50 km/h (30 mp/h). Its great on paper, but software for it was a problem not performing as it should.

    • @coldvaper
      @coldvaper 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wonder if you can put the newer diff in?

    • @serpenthx
      @serpenthx 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@coldvaper Mechanically yes, but some program coding is needed. Still waiting for first report of a successful upgrade.

  • @qwerty69600
    @qwerty69600 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good review, but to clarify, it's a comfortably £90k car vs essentially a £70k car. The BMW is nice, but I'd take the M4 over the M3. However I couldn't walk away from an Alfa super saloon against either of the M cars.

  • @casey2732
    @casey2732 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I own M4 comp and one thing is certain... After I drove Giulia QV my car feels like an elephant. You can really feel it's weight and heavy steering. I don't know what changes were made to 2024 model that feeling was different

  • @supremeetnel7707
    @supremeetnel7707 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    seeing alot of comments of people who havent driven the cars saying which one theyd have because of looks.

    • @karmadel786
      @karmadel786 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your point?

    • @supremeetnel7707
      @supremeetnel7707 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@karmadel786 Cars are more than just looks.

    • @augustortiz
      @augustortiz 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If they don’t bring looks they bring “Nurburgring times” as if thats the only measure too.

    • @MathsYknow
      @MathsYknow 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have a guess which of the two cars @supremeetnel7707 would go for. It takes a big advantage in dynamics at ten tenths to make up for having butt cheeks for a grille. ;)

    • @ChicagoItalian
      @ChicagoItalian 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Valid point, I was one of those people. Kind of like those individuals who hate on a Maserati (Maserati GranSport built by Ferrari) and have no clue. But yes, you are right.

  • @myou6675
    @myou6675 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    QV owner so I am possibly biased but also not an entirely fair comparison using a fully loaded (carbon brakes and seats) xdrive estate vs a standard QV saloon. The equivalent M3 may still win on paper anyhow but it would fail the “car park look back” test every time.

  • @FREE_CH1CKEN
    @FREE_CH1CKEN 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These are both absolutely amazing

  • @pedrosousa8512
    @pedrosousa8512 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have to confess, before I prefer the Giulia all day... but this M3 touring OMG I can´t resist!!! It´s such a beautiful touring!

  • @mitchhifi9192
    @mitchhifi9192 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Alpha looks much much nicer, especially in that emerald green colour it's brilliant on road.

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least spell the name correctly ffs ... it's an ALFA not an alpha you MELON.

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, both awesome cars!

  • @motorfab7014
    @motorfab7014 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +94

    Giulia is better

    • @martinallenuk
      @martinallenuk 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      at looking like a sales reps car.

    • @H-jb4tf
      @H-jb4tf 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Na mate. They are crap. My Golf R blows it away. 😅

    • @bartoszbaginski941
      @bartoszbaginski941 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@H-jb4tfxDDD Golf R is nowhere close to this class of a car

    • @sodomagorsvk6668
      @sodomagorsvk6668 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In what. In cost of oil change? Man just oil change cost 350€ in Giulia😅

    • @javis350fsport2
      @javis350fsport2 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not even the rims🤣🤡

  • @michelnillesen6659
    @michelnillesen6659 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    no doubt: Alfa.

  • @carpro3690
    @carpro3690 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I will never get used to the front end on the current gen Bmws I don’t care how brilliant.

  • @SiddharthaKS1983
    @SiddharthaKS1983 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would still go for Alfa Romeo. It feels like a proper sports saloon to me. But people who love tech might like the M3 more than t

  • @stevep9041
    @stevep9041 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I prefer less fiddling with dials and more driving pleasure, the Alfa is simple and answers the brief.

    • @geoffbullock8280
      @geoffbullock8280 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's 1 button press to turn to full attack in the M3.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why haven't you bought it then?

    • @geoffbullock8280
      @geoffbullock8280 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @hassanger8128 if that is directed to me I have a 2024 M3 Comp Xdrive.

  • @redryder1146
    @redryder1146 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The BMW for driving the Alpha for looking at that is such a beautiful car

  • @foodsillustrated
    @foodsillustrated 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been fortunate enough to have an f80 M3 and a Giulia QV - maybe I didn’t do enough with the M3, but took the Giulia to the alps, definitely preferred the Alfa

  • @brianb7844
    @brianb7844 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Own a 2023 QV in Vulcano Black Metallic. Phenomenal vehicle and plan on keeping her.

  • @maxz2552
    @maxz2552 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the m3 engine noise also generated by speakers?

  • @lightenergyfractoid5675
    @lightenergyfractoid5675 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it wrong that I want to buy all the QV's in existence and lock them in a garage for posterity ? I think as cars go electric it will be well remembered as possibly the greatest 4 door sport sedan of all time.

  • @51madmitch
    @51madmitch 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alfa looks beautiful inside and out, buttons and knobs brilliant, most of us want a quick but every day car, to much adjustment not necessary, a good car set up doesn’t need constant changes with buttons etc.

  • @mo_0912
    @mo_0912 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would take a combinatiom of the two, put the the best of both into one package.
    But if I am to choose, then the M3 will be it.

  • @richardconway6425
    @richardconway6425 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Giulia with a manual gearbox is a very nice idea.

    • @sunnysaenngarm5375
      @sunnysaenngarm5375 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      they only made them for the 2017 QV’s in Europe. Pretty rare find from what i’ve read.

  • @FruitoftheLoops
    @FruitoftheLoops 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Fake noise pumped in through the bimmer speakers...annoying

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Not in the USA.

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-my4xu4gf1zlol, absolutely it does. I coded mine FULLY off using Bimmercode. Oh so much better.

    • @bri1042
      @bri1042 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, in the USA. I have a '21 M3 Manual. It is easily turned off with Bimmercode.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I heard same and thought urghh.

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes exactly- surprised the reviewer didn't call that out, instead of being suckered in by the fake raspberry noises. I mean, I can sit in my bath and make pretty convincing motorboat sounds but ultimately I'm just a sagging, balding old guy sitting in the tub going 'vroom vroom.'

  • @goranmatin3709
    @goranmatin3709 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Giulia❤

  • @ancient_oak
    @ancient_oak 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Both are phenomenal cars. I still can't stand that fugly 4 series grille though, I thought that with time I’d get used to it but...

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have an Alpina for me it’s the perfect compromise, the four wheel drive in wet greasy UK with this much power is almost essential if you want to push on..

  • @KyleH_03
    @KyleH_03 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could I fit two booster seats in the rear of a Quad? I have a 7 and 5 year old. Car would be my daily and have never seen the backseats in person. Looks small in the videos and photos.

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee9563 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would be curious to know how the actual weights compare. The wagon also would likely feel heavier and a bit less agile than the saloon version.

  • @jez987s
    @jez987s 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Gulia for me.

  • @betterbeavailable
    @betterbeavailable 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love that Alfa. People should buy more Alfa Romeros.

  • @philmountain9290
    @philmountain9290 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They’re both great, I went for the M3 because I need the estate and ideally like 4wd.
    If they weren’t my criteria I’d definitely look at the Alfa.

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think they are the main reasons to buy beemer. In the UK year round 4wd is useful with 500hp.

  • @neilmitchell9421
    @neilmitchell9421 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic video! The Alfa has future classic written all over it. Like you said, a wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Mine is a daily driver but a weekend warrior. Heart vs head? Maybe, but I vote for the Guilia Quadrifoglio!

  • @florinvid
    @florinvid 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the Italian charm but the interior quality and technology of the BMW would probably win me over.

  • @1995konst
    @1995konst 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Giulia of course!

  • @jamieheffer4781
    @jamieheffer4781 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Strange you compared the seats straight away when the Gulia didnt have the optional carbon buckets 🤔

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Criticising the M3 for being stiffer, noisier, and harsher is daft.
    M cars have always made the gap obvious, between the 'normal' models, and the M cars.
    These are the reasons why people buy them, because they WANT that feeling of excitement even when driving normally.
    Nobody buys a top of the range sporting super saloon to drive around wallowing through corners in supreme comfort ffs.

  • @user-jb4yj5ke1u
    @user-jb4yj5ke1u 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    very nice!

  • @jerehada
    @jerehada 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review not convinced that a UK A rode can really allow you to test chassis and engine of these cars or the difference between them. Talk of front ends hard to explain but either just anilates roads like this with massive limits and if the Beemer is better it’s at academic speeds. Just the performance of either has you doing stupid speeds in a few seconds and width doesn’t let you move chassis around narrow road. Comment based on owning a QF for 4 years..

  • @jaguarundi98
    @jaguarundi98 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In 2020+ giulias they messed up the steering because many idiots complained about tire skipping in low speed maneuvers due to the very small ackermann angle. Overall Pre-2020 had much sharper steering.

  • @denisk886
    @denisk886 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    we need Giulia wagon!

  • @Abdel725
    @Abdel725 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Guilia ❤

  • @RFG001
    @RFG001 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alfa on car design / looks alone !

  • @jpreyes1028
    @jpreyes1028 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would agree that most performance cars today are great. But what car journalists should also be discussing is reliability over a certain amount of time. And is the dealer network for that specific car reliable as well.

    • @tonunknown1
      @tonunknown1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d argue they’re probably both equally unreliable. The headaches I went through with my 240i warded me away from ever buying another bmw, then I went and got an Alfa 😂
      Fortunately it’s been 3 years and no issues, putting a bit over 40k miles on it.

  • @seanyster7294
    @seanyster7294 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    New M3 is Epic, that new S58 is just a Gem, S58 is the new 2JZ, it's miles ahead of the Alfa.

  • @rickybryan1759
    @rickybryan1759 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hagerty just out there making broadcast quality car documentaries

  • @davieman3443
    @davieman3443 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't care how good the beemer is. I'll take the Guilia anyday.

  • @chasinglimits
    @chasinglimits 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The M3 is very good, no doubt. But the QV does all that, but also feels more special and looks gorgeous! Perhaps I’m a bit biased but I think most would agree.

  • @ivocunha3437
    @ivocunha3437 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Giulia always :)

  • @TheHutchRuns
    @TheHutchRuns 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These cars will appeal to different sorts of people, Alfa to those who buy with their hearts and BMW for those that buy with their heads. Me? I'd have the Alfa every day!

  • @frankyork5808
    @frankyork5808 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why does the M3 need so many adjustable drive modes? Top much tech , just because. Once one sets a car up, one rarely changes it. I prefer more analogue. I will take the Alfa Romeo please (as all true car lovers would).

  • @FlashFlash-tb6vf
    @FlashFlash-tb6vf 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    G80 6MT FTW!!! Car is PHENOMINAL!!!

  • @diogopsilva
    @diogopsilva 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Alfa is a beauty, the new M3 is a monstrosity! I'd take the Alfa all day everyday

  • @jmdixon1
    @jmdixon1 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love my M3 Comp with xDrive sedan, but I want a bit more space. If BMW brought the wagon to the US, I'd buy it Day 1.