@@sliknik1025They were de rated in Canada too but it was just a carbon trap filter in the intake that dropped the HP. I have removed mine so it makes the full 480HP & 420 FT LB TQ
Why would you race a manual mustang against cars with auto Transmission when the mustang comes with a 10 speed auto as well? Poor journalism not a real test of the cars. The 10 speed auto mustang is significantly faster than the manual mustang.
If you believe this you are naive... They wanted a shoot out with the Supra and so signalled to Nissan to prepare the car for the second time. I bet it was put on a dyno and also had a program done for this... Premium fuel wouldn't just give such astounding performance..
@@saddist1Gtown oh but it can. When i bought my 04 GTO years ago, the dealership filled it up before i left with it. I took it to the drag strip 2 days later and ran a horrid 14.5 (granted it was 90 degrees and humid). I called the dealership the next day and asked what it was filled with and was told most likely what they have on site, which is 87. I babied it for a few days and filled with 93. Went back the following week and went 13.9.
Everybody knows that the 10 speed auto is the ticket if you're into drag racing the Mustang. The current top dog Mustang is the Dark Horse with the 10 speed and without the giant wheels on the performance pack. That setup will be most competitive with these cars on the strip.
for most cars it doesn't matter. Minimal gains for the price. But some cars just require it like the Niz to be what they should be. Edit That said, roll races are very deceptive and tricky. Pretty sure that Niz was 10 foot behind on kickdown lol
Owner of a 2016 Scat Pack Shaker, and a 2023 Hellcat Super Stock here. Gotta say I really like those Toyota Supra's, they look sharp and they are fast. And If I didn't have my beloved Challengers, I'd have either a Supra or a Mustang.
Thankyou for the invite Sam. It was definitely good too see the Z preform properly. Im happy that i can still keep up with it with the manual car. Although a ten speed would be faster from personal experience the fun factor isnt there with the A10 cars. Cant wait too see the other videos & cant wait for what im bringing next
Best decision I ever made was selling my 2018 Mustang GT with the performance pack and getting a GR Supra, hands down the Supra is a better car except for space if you go on trips a lot. I hated the MT82 transmission in that car. I had zero issue driving friends Mustangs but my trans would hate to shift fast over 6300rpm just killing the experience. Ford rebuilt it, Mantic clutch MGW shifter SS braided clutch line Amsoil fluid helped some but still wasn't great. Supra is a great car that people pass over because it's a BMW. I don't regret it one bit though. Best car I've ever owned.
I made a similar switch. Ironically, the MT82 never gave me trouble (after a clutch spring delete), but the GS6 in in the Supra will grind if rushed into second. Still, I agree that it's also the best car I've ever owned. Spec sheets and bench racing don't capture the experience behind the wheel.
@@gtrance3567 My boy had a 2018 SS 1LE, drove my Supra one time and sold it for a tunable 21 Supra. He was the one that even pushed me towards a Supra. I had a C8 on order. I loved the Transmisson in his 1LE, really wished my Mustang had that trans I maybe would've kept it.
Fun to see these cars head to head. Couple things I think handicapped the Mach 1: 1) from about 10:00, couldn't tell for sure, but looked like some short shifts. Could maybe benefit from carrying more Rs, because 2nd and 3rd are nice long gears in the Tremec; 2) the car was not in drag race configuration. Gurney flap adds significant drag, and about 250lbs of downforce at speed, affecting both runs.
I would still buy the nizmo and the nissan heritage Z hands down. Thank you for u sharing this video. The Z has alot more history then most people know.
One of the best videos you've done. So much for wanting a Mach 1. I Tested about a month ago, found it to be lackluster (but also way too fast), ended up with a 2024 Elantra N which I'm more than happy. This my new track day/Auto Cross worrier. Triple
Go to Fastestlaps and learn that this is not true. Every car and every track on this site. Too much work to check all the tracks but at Lime Rock Park the nismo and supra were driven by the same driver and the supra won.
@@johnnybegood2078 the nissan z chassis is just poor and much inferior then the supra. You must be blind have you not watched any review between the Z and supra? savageese has the most in depth one and even spoke to the cheif engineers at nissan, the supra is far better track and street car it's a simple fact.
@@johnnybegood2078yes chance. It's literally been shown by multiple channels doing comparisons. Putting a car into a wall is driver skill issue, not car issue.
That was a handling package Mach 1 w/ a 6-spd Tremec. Adding the handling pkg to the Mach 1 w/ the Tremec optimizes it more for a road course rather than drag racing. A more fair comparison to the Supra/Nismo Z would be to have a base Mach 1 (no handling pkg) with the 10-speed automatic. The 2-piece front & rear spoilers that are part of the handling pkg increases downforce but adds a lot of aerodynamic drag to the Mach 1, something which is more usefull on a high-speed road course but not on a drag strip. A base Mach 1 is cleaner aerodynamically and when coupled with a 10-speed auto would have had a better showing in this scenario.
Those changes definitely would have made it a win for the Mach but it was still a strong performance for what it is. The BMW was quick because it's powerful with a performance automatic but much lighter.
wrong. the aero mods with the handling pack only serve a negligible difference. It's only at races to the half mile where you would see a difference my friend. This is just how slow a mach 1 manual is- it having the 10 speed is what would make a significant difference of course. Most people preferred seeing the manual mustang for this video btw because they've seen the 10 speed drag raced so often. The people want the MT
@@roboticvenom1935 Distance is not the issue. It's speed. Specs from Ford in the owners manual supplements for both the Mach 1 and GT500 indicate significant drag/downforce above 50mph. Both cars share the same rear aero - the same part number. The GT500 manual under Track Use states in no uncertain terms: "DO NOT USE" the Gurney flap for drag racing. Spec is nearly 240lbs of downforce at 120mph, right around the quarter mile speed for a 6spd Mach 1. BTW: C&D tested the manual and auto on the quarter at 12.6/115 vs. 12.3/113, respectively. Tremec is pretty darn close. Certainly not 'slow'.
Great job retesting the Nissan Sam. I know that must have been a pain to need to go back out there but we all appreciate your dedication to getting the testing correct. However, I can’t help thinking these cars just aren’t quick for their price. Spending $60k+ and running 12s in the 1/4 mile just isn’t quick enough now when there are so many better options and some of them are even less.
@@epa316 yeah good thing the supra has a high revving screamer of an inline six which sounds incredible. Supra is the best sounding car here with an exhaust, then the mustang, then the Z right behind it. I've owned a SS 1LE so I do enjoy the v8 sound but the more complex inline six turbo sound is my favorite(what I have with my m340i)
BOOOOORRRRIIIING!!!! I want to see these cars compete on REAL Racetracks. Do like 3 laps or more not just on boring ass strips, but tracks with hairpin turns, chicanes, esses, banked turns, sweeping turns, apexes, carousels, double apex turns, corkscrews, U-turns, and kinks. Each of these curves has its own unique challenge, and different racetracks use them in various combinations to create exciting and challenging courses.
Perfectly structured video to show the frustration of the initial set of races Sam. No question, cars these days are such finely tuned computers that regulate the mechanical systems. Correct octane makes a huge difference. Nice to feel that 2-3 shift during rematch races in the Nismo feel like it did the first time. Good stuff. Sorry for the jerky drone footage there boys, it was mighty windy that day.
You did good, please keep using drones for more of the footage, a drone at the finish line with the camera pointed down to catch the close call finishes would be amazing. 👍
Really good call on the fuel. Not only do you want to run premium, you want to run quality premium too. Seen dyno numbers low because people say they put premium, but it’s from a mom and pop gas station in the cut. That makes a small difference too.
Good call on the fuel Sam. That made a huge difference against the Mustang Mach1. The Supra continues to impress me! If I were in the market and had the $$$ I would likely be considering the Supra.
Love the video! Can I suggest grabbing some CineSticks to help out with smoother drone video? I have it and although it takes a bit of practice, you can’t get smoother footage unless you stabilize further in post.
Just curious, what is the elevation where these cars were tested? Because a forced induction car will not loose as much HP as a NA car at higher elevations.
Manual gearboxes are extremely overly rated,and most manual lovers are wannabe enthusiasts which doesn't know much about driving skills. So don't you dare think that a car with a manual gearboxe makes you a better driver or a real man. It's really tiering hearing these comments it's boring
Wow that Z with the premium stayed ahead of the stang!! What a machine!! Ohhhh hold up just seen the drag race now and the Z took it the wholee way!! Unreal!! Hella nice!! About time the z putting work nice
@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk well considering the Mach 1 placed 12 spots higher on Throttle Houses leader board, I’d say it’s you that knows nothing. Not saying, just saying lol 🤷🏼♂️
@@Barbwire710 I think the Z "was" always the value proposition for fun with a balance more towards being just fast enough to annoy more powerful cars- but could smoke them around the corners... The new Z is now fast in a straight line - but everything is just a ton more competitive - however - I think the Z is still awesome if you just want something different on the road compared to the dime a dozen mustang / challenger / charger crowd... The new Z needs work - suspension, intake, downpipe/full exhaust, tune... and tires...
that's because it's also a POOR transmission, it doesn't even come close to the ZF in the supra or even the 10 speed auto in the mustang. The z is a flawed vehicle when compared to the supra which is a shame because it's the only real competitor
Had a 240Z, 350Z, and 09 Nismo. Love the Z. Have a 2021 Supra and it’s a sweet car. Throttle house had the same three cars except the mustang had a track pack and the Supra beat them around the track. Sorry Sam the Supra isn’t just a drag car.
Love the content but just a suggestion. Most ppl can’t afford these cars so you should do some to see how they stack up against OG budget cars. Like q60s, Amg w204, c6s and etc
hey sam your videos are one of the best I love success blessings I'm still waiting for the race of the manual Supra vs the manual Mustang dark horse I have the manual supra but I'm in Puerto Rico hahaha
I would love for someone to finally record a race between cars like this where the winner outperforms the others after completing at least 2 laps on a REAL Racetrack that has not just a straightaway, but winding curves, twists and sharp turns.
I worked as a tech for a honda dealership for 12 years and it is very common for techs when doing PDI(pre-delivery inspection)to put 87 oct in a car that is calling for 91 or better. Some of my co-workers would put 87 oct in civic type R because sales department said to, just so they could save a bit of money. I never care what the sale department wanted, I always put the right fuel for what the car is calling for. I bet this is what happened to the Z on the 1st runs, tech put 87 in it.
Octane on turbo cars Always makes a huge difference... Glad you persisted and reran the races...I remember driving a turbo SUV that ran killer fast hwen we rented it.. I cheaped out and used regular instead of super on the tank refill and that thing ran like a freakin dog afterwards.. couldnt believe the difference, like a different car!... Imagine the gap the supra would have done to the stang!
A 10r80 mustang gt wouldve been a closer race for the imports. Its about 300lbs lighter than the mach1 and the 10speed is lightning quick. Thats supra was moving though for sure.
in what world is a 10r80 mustang gt with the first option pack 300LBS lighter then the manual mach 1. Why are you retarded this way- show me proof of the 300LB difference and I will paypal or zelle you $50 no BS
I had a 22 supra and a 22 mach 1, the thing with the supra is since its a bmw turbo, all I had to do was unlock the ecu and download a tune on my phone and it was a lil monster. The mach I would need to spend 15k to supercharge to beat it. The B58 is so dominant.
So the new Nissan Z is slightly down on straightline performance compared to its competitors. In the first drag races against the Mach1, which is even manually shifted, the Z was behind on traction and the Mustang normally is not known for good traction. So, they need to do some homework at Nissan to further improve it´s performance. The Supra simply pulls away steadily. Guess, it´s underrated on power and delivers more than claimed, since the weight ratio of both cars is quite equal.
@@roboticvenom1935 many places. Including the car and driver lightening lap where the manual supra did a 2:55.6 with 300tw tires and the nismo z did a 2:56.2 with 200tw tires.
I sure do love a non true side by side comparison. The only way to show true results would be to show similar drivetrains ie.. auto vs auto / manual vs manual or RWD vs RWD in a similar price range. Unfortunately to those folks who don’t know better out there. The car that would be the fastest on the street with a V8/auto trans wasn’t available guys. “My bad. Let’s compare a different version”. The Mach 1 was designed as a circuit track car. Not a drag car. Props to you guy who showed up to an auto fight with the manual. True digs and rows on your part. Ever thought of switching lanes or even switching drivers to see if the results are the same? The only way to have a true test is the law of averages. Maybe the air density was severely off for testing turbo cars or naturally aspirated cars. Or altitude comes into factor. Non of the runs showed a mph or kph for reference on the suggested track times. Not 1 consecutive full frame race. Way to many cut scenes. I honestly don’t know how these results were finagled out. I feel bad that this guy makes money off of people who don’t know better. Before you ask. 25 yrs+ drag racing all different makes and models of cars. Street and track.
And now you see why the folks with the Hyundai Elantra Ns mention "octane learn" so much. It makes a significant/noticeable performance difference. Please get a DCT VS manual 2024 Hyundai Elantra N race!!
🤔 ive alwys been a fan of Nissan, despite being driven by people with credit score lower than the speed limit, and never been a mustang fan because of the way they drive (they make you crash into crowds), but the V8 is soooooo sweet and they've really stepped up the suspension. Sad to admit but in this entourage I'd put the Nissan last and the supra first, solely based on looks. Yes, im a superficial bastard i know 😂
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2022-23 Mustangs with 5.0 engines had slightly lower power numbers, GT went from 460 to 450 and Mach 1 went from 480 to 470. Or was it for US only?
@@sliknik1025They were de rated in Canada too but it was just a carbon trap filter in the intake that dropped the HP. I have removed mine so it makes the full 480HP & 420 FT LB TQ
Why would you race a manual mustang against cars with auto Transmission when the mustang comes with a 10 speed auto as well? Poor journalism not a real test of the cars. The 10 speed auto mustang is significantly faster than the manual mustang.
@@sliknik1025yes, but 2024 has 480 and 410 torque
Whoever at Nissan put non premium fuel in the Nismo Z needs to get fired.
If you believe this you are naive... They wanted a shoot out with the Supra and so signalled to Nissan to prepare the car for the second time. I bet it was put on a dyno and also had a program done for this... Premium fuel wouldn't just give such astounding performance..
@@saddist1Gtowna $50k+ car with twin turbos should not be using anything other than premium fuel.
@@saddist1Gtownyou are a 🤡
@@saddist1Gtown lay off the conspiracy theories… obviously making you dumber.
@@saddist1Gtown oh but it can. When i bought my 04 GTO years ago, the dealership filled it up before i left with it. I took it to the drag strip 2 days later and ran a horrid 14.5 (granted it was 90 degrees and humid). I called the dealership the next day and asked what it was filled with and was told most likely what they have on site, which is 87. I babied it for a few days and filled with 93. Went back the following week and went 13.9.
that supra is a beast
3.9 vs 3.8 makes it a bigger beast then the nismo😅
MACH 1 put up a damn good fight for being stick shift. That was super close. Car is damn fast…
Tremec is a legend
Guy can drive, I know him personally - can really slam gears!
The 10spd would beat both
@@charlesturner5195not the Supra probably really close though
It's a pos ford...hush
Finally, a decent driver in Mustang that can Shift Properly for Racing....😂😅
Mustang driver is a proper fucking driver! Launches were proper, shifts were crisp. Good driving man.
Everybody knows that the 10 speed auto is the ticket if you're into drag racing the Mustang. The current top dog Mustang is the Dark Horse with the 10 speed and without the giant wheels on the performance pack. That setup will be most competitive with these cars on the strip.
@@TheCamper83 doesn’t even need to be a dark horse. A Gen 3 10speed alone would give them the work.
Let's see a 10spd compete sometimes
@@JbzskiI know! That’s what I’m saying, if he actually wanted to, he could’ve got any automatic GT to race fairly
@@Frogsplash27 this page doesn’t like 5.0’s🤣
The dark horse would annihilate these cars lol. Overkill.
And people still believe fuel octane don't make a difference thanks Sam for futher proof
Genuinely the car felt like a donkey!! When I picked it up, it didn’t feel right, car felt like very off. The 93 woke up the car
@@SamCarLegionwhat was the octane prior?
I feel that in my slow daily 😂
for most cars it doesn't matter. Minimal gains for the price. But some cars just require it like the Niz to be what they should be.
Edit That said, roll races are very deceptive and tricky. Pretty sure that Niz was 10 foot behind on kickdown lol
Mostly it makes a different in turbocharged cars
Owner of a 2016 Scat Pack Shaker, and a 2023 Hellcat Super Stock here.
Gotta say I really like those Toyota Supra's, they look sharp and they are fast.
And If I didn't have my beloved Challengers, I'd have either a Supra or a Mustang.
Take the Mustang performance lightly. The auto version is MUCH faster
And more boring to drive
@@kaidoChessfaster will awaits be more fun.
@@SpartanKyuubi assuming you can’t drive stick
@@kaidoChess Everyone knows how to drive stick. I haven’t owned a manual vehicle since I graduated high school in 2007.
@@SpartanKyuubi .3 seconds in an auto is not enough to be more fun than a manual
Thankyou for the invite Sam. It was definitely good too see the Z preform properly. Im happy that i can still keep up with it with the manual car. Although a ten speed would be faster from personal experience the fun factor isnt there with the A10 cars. Cant wait too see the other videos & cant wait for what im bringing next
Thanks for joining us, and amazing shifts!
Nice work not sure if you are the mach 1 owner 😂
@@thatr34monster49I am the owner thankyou.
That Mach 1 sounds and looks absolutely beautiful 😍
@@eamokearney Thankyou very much. It's my 3rd S550 mustang & I have 0 plans too get rid of it
Best decision I ever made was selling my 2018 Mustang GT with the performance pack and getting a GR Supra, hands down the Supra is a better car except for space if you go on trips a lot. I hated the MT82 transmission in that car. I had zero issue driving friends Mustangs but my trans would hate to shift fast over 6300rpm just killing the experience. Ford rebuilt it, Mantic clutch MGW shifter SS braided clutch line Amsoil fluid helped some but still wasn't great. Supra is a great car that people pass over because it's a BMW. I don't regret it one bit though. Best car I've ever owned.
I made a similar switch. Ironically, the MT82 never gave me trouble (after a clutch spring delete), but the GS6 in in the Supra will grind if rushed into second.
Still, I agree that it's also the best car I've ever owned. Spec sheets and bench racing don't capture the experience behind the wheel.
Should have bought a gt350 or gt500 instead, but nice choice.
Shoulda got a Camaro ss1le! 😂. Jk
@@gtrance3567 My boy had a 2018 SS 1LE, drove my Supra one time and sold it for a tunable 21 Supra. He was the one that even pushed me towards a Supra. I had a C8 on order. I loved the Transmisson in his 1LE, really wished my Mustang had that trans I maybe would've kept it.
@@SupraDebttremec is solid.
Tuneability is important though.
Supra is for me better than the other two.
Another great video, Sam! I'm a S58 owner but have had B58 cars before and they're amazing. The B58 is easily the 2JZ of this generation.
Couldn't agree more!
I’m a huge ford fanboy but I do give flowers to other cars and the nismo & Supra are pieces of art.
Much respect for the Mustang driver!!! His shifts were on point.
Damn you gotta love b58😂❤
Props to the Mach 1 driver because he got the best possible acceleration times for the manual!
Glad to see somebody that can really drive a stick!!!
Sam its so fun to watch this channel grow over the past couple years. Up to 223k subs now!
Thank you!
Agreed
I had the mach 1 and it was a great performer in every way!!! But i love little cars so that supra might be a next option!!!
B58 is hard to beat in any platform for stock for stock. Even harder when tuned by Botti. 😮
Botti turns are crazy bro 😂😂
Thank you for giving it a fair chance! Honesty means a lot👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾🙏🏾
Of course!!
I was so happy seeing the Nismo Z produce better results!!! Thank God S did his due diligence and gave that car a fair chance.
Everybody gangsta until a 10 spd mustang shows up. Talk about fair huh.
@@voodoodiecastalright but this is no anime characters fight 😅 chill
Here is the real race
Awesome video! Thank you 🙏
B58 with the ZF TRANS hands down one of the beat combinations ever
Mustang stats placard never made it in during the car description
Supra for the win all day everyday
Fun to see these cars head to head. Couple things I think handicapped the Mach 1: 1) from about 10:00, couldn't tell for sure, but looked like some short shifts. Could maybe benefit from carrying more Rs, because 2nd and 3rd are nice long gears in the Tremec; 2) the car was not in drag race configuration. Gurney flap adds significant drag, and about 250lbs of downforce at speed, affecting both runs.
Whoever is wheeling the Mustang is doing pretty damn good at the launch.
Awesome video Sam, yep that B58 is such a monster, drove the Supra once, was very impressed.. Cant wait to drive the Nismo Z! Cheers from Orlando!
I would still buy the nizmo and the nissan heritage Z hands down. Thank you for u sharing this video. The Z has alot more history then most people know.
No matter the result is, I just love the Nismo Z. It looks so good.
Honestly I love it
I love all three but love the nismo
I’d take the Mustang without hesitation. Specially with a manual
Me too. I would careless about straightline performance. The one that makes me smile, that's more important.
Nismo Z is exactly what we want
One of the best videos you've done. So much for wanting a Mach 1. I Tested about a month ago, found it to be lackluster (but also way too fast), ended up with a 2024 Elantra N which I'm more than happy. This my new track day/Auto Cross worrier. Triple
Great to hear!
No, on tracks both the Supra and the Z Nismo have set times on the Supra is faster on all.
Go to Fastestlaps and learn that this is not true. Every car and every track on this site. Too much work to check all the tracks but at Lime Rock Park the nismo and supra were driven by the same driver and the supra won.
No chance, I have seen supra end up on the wall at many tracks. Very squirmy
@@johnnybegood2078 the nissan z chassis is just poor and much inferior then the supra. You must be blind have you not watched any review between the Z and supra? savageese has the most in depth one and even spoke to the cheif engineers at nissan, the supra is far better track and street car it's a simple fact.
@@roboticvenom1935savageese are Nissan haters 😂 nothing they say is legit credible
@@johnnybegood2078yes chance. It's literally been shown by multiple channels doing comparisons. Putting a car into a wall is driver skill issue, not car issue.
That was a handling package Mach 1 w/ a 6-spd Tremec. Adding the handling pkg to the Mach 1 w/ the Tremec optimizes it more for a road course rather than drag racing. A more fair comparison to the Supra/Nismo Z would be to have a base Mach 1 (no handling pkg) with the 10-speed automatic. The 2-piece front & rear spoilers that are part of the handling pkg increases downforce but adds a lot of aerodynamic drag to the Mach 1, something which is more usefull on a high-speed road course but not on a drag strip. A base Mach 1 is cleaner aerodynamically and when coupled with a 10-speed auto would have had a better showing in this scenario.
Those changes definitely would have made it a win for the Mach but it was still a strong performance for what it is. The BMW was quick because it's powerful with a performance automatic but much lighter.
wrong. the aero mods with the handling pack only serve a negligible difference. It's only at races to the half mile where you would see a difference my friend. This is just how slow a mach 1 manual is- it having the 10 speed is what would make a significant difference of course. Most people preferred seeing the manual mustang for this video btw because they've seen the 10 speed drag raced so often. The people want the MT
@@roboticvenom1935 Distance is not the issue. It's speed. Specs from Ford in the owners manual supplements for both the Mach 1 and GT500 indicate significant drag/downforce above 50mph. Both cars share the same rear aero - the same part number. The GT500 manual under Track Use states in no uncertain terms: "DO NOT USE" the Gurney flap for drag racing. Spec is nearly 240lbs of downforce at 120mph, right around the quarter mile speed for a 6spd Mach 1.
BTW: C&D tested the manual and auto on the quarter at 12.6/115 vs. 12.3/113, respectively. Tremec is pretty darn close. Certainly not 'slow'.
Great job retesting the Nissan Sam. I know that must have been a pain to need to go back out there but we all appreciate your dedication to getting the testing correct. However, I can’t help thinking these cars just aren’t quick for their price. Spending $60k+ and running 12s in the 1/4 mile just isn’t quick enough now when there are so many better options and some of them are even less.
Exhaust note: Mustang wins, hands down. Any argument is invalid.
Too violent for my taste too obnoxious
@@johnnybegood2078 That’s what I think about raspy 4 cylinders that sound like flatulent insects.
@@epa316 yeah good thing the supra has a high revving screamer of an inline six which sounds incredible. Supra is the best sounding car here with an exhaust, then the mustang, then the Z right behind it. I've owned a SS 1LE so I do enjoy the v8 sound but the more complex inline six turbo sound is my favorite(what I have with my m340i)
@@roboticvenom1935 Still sounds terrible next to a V8.
German v8s>
BOOOOORRRRIIIING!!!!
I want to see these cars compete on REAL Racetracks. Do like 3 laps or more not just on boring ass strips, but tracks with hairpin turns, chicanes, esses, banked turns, sweeping turns, apexes, carousels, double apex turns, corkscrews, U-turns, and kinks. Each of these curves has its own unique challenge, and different racetracks use them in various combinations to create exciting and challenging courses.
Everyone remember when the regular Z was called the Supra killer?
Well, it's not a Supra... it's a BMW 😉😉
@@CarlosPerdomo Wow I have never heard of that before, I am totally mind-blown.
@@Foiiiii1 are you into cars?? 🤣
@@CarlosPerdomo u know what sarcasm is? that joke was funny in 2020, then stopped being funny when everyone was getting gapped by that supra/bmw.
@@ghetto-lemon ah, so That's what that was? An attempt at being jokingly sarcastic?
Ok.
Toyota going to discontinue this supra soon, you'all gone love it 10 years later, mark my words
I know that for sure is what’s going to happen this is why I bought the 2024 model 3 months ago, nobody likes it until they drive it, it’s a beast
Love the videos….Supra!
Thanks! 👍
Redoing the fuel bit was a huge + Great vifeo
Sam has done it again!!! But forgot the camaro 😂. And whoever is driving that mustang really knows how to row! Good job guys!
Perfectly structured video to show the frustration of the initial set of races Sam. No question, cars these days are such finely tuned computers that regulate the mechanical systems. Correct octane makes a huge difference. Nice to feel that 2-3 shift during rematch races in the Nismo feel like it did the first time. Good stuff. Sorry for the jerky drone footage there boys, it was mighty windy that day.
You did amazing
You did good, please keep using drones for more of the footage, a drone at the finish line with the camera pointed down to catch the close call finishes would be amazing. 👍
Not to brag but as a MK5 owner, I already knew the outcome of this video. Excellent drag video.
Really good call on the fuel. Not only do you want to run premium, you want to run quality premium too. Seen dyno numbers low because people say they put premium, but it’s from a mom and pop gas station in the cut. That makes a small difference too.
I always enjoy the types of cars you compare together
Superb video Sam! I appreciate you making it right and yes premium fuel makes a huge difference in a twin turbo car. 🎉
Good call on the fuel Sam. That made a huge difference against the Mustang Mach1. The Supra continues to impress me! If I were in the market and had the $$$ I would likely be considering the Supra.
I use to own a 93 s13 240sx coupe and loved it. I would still stick to the Nissan to this day.
Love the video! Can I suggest grabbing some CineSticks to help out with smoother drone video? I have it and although it takes a bit of practice, you can’t get smoother footage unless you stabilize further in post.
So, in that case we had someone use them, but I don’t usually do that, i use follow mode which is way better. But good point there
Was the Nizmo on sports mode?
Just curious, what is the elevation where these cars were tested? Because a forced induction car will not loose as much HP as a NA car at higher elevations.
I love this video you know what you were talking about with the gas I was amazing to me I'll be watching more of you
So glad you used a Manual Mustang, so tired of boring Automatic Mustang videos!
10 speed will always be faster in a drag race
Hopefully every car was manual too, otherwise this is TRASH....
Luckily you're too mentally inept to know what's faster in a drag race
@@TheBb6prelude Paddle shifters on the Nismo = automatic. Had the Mach been a 10R80, it would have won.
Manual gearboxes are extremely overly rated,and most manual lovers are wannabe enthusiasts which doesn't know much about driving skills. So don't you dare think that a car with a manual gearboxe makes you a better driver or a real man. It's really tiering hearing these comments it's boring
I like the drone view of the races, keep that up. Then you can see the entire time what's going on between them.
Wow that Z with the premium stayed ahead of the stang!! What a machine!! Ohhhh hold up just seen the drag race now and the Z took it the wholee way!! Unreal!! Hella nice!! About time the z putting work nice
Anyone who tells you it isn’t the better car simply knows nothing about cars period
It beat a manual stang, take that win with a grain of salt. Lol
@@StanMarshimportskillUSjunk well considering the Mach 1 placed 12 spots higher on Throttle Houses leader board, I’d say it’s you that knows nothing. Not saying, just saying lol 🤷🏼♂️
I knew the result before the video rolled… 🎉 Love my #tuned #Supra
Nice work!!! And historically the Z was never a straight line vehicle so it’s nice to see that it’s finally competitive.
Really? It was always called Japanese muscle in my circles. It could never step on the toes of the GTR, so it never had to be the fastest thing out.
@@Barbwire710 I think the Z "was" always the value proposition for fun with a balance more towards being just fast enough to annoy more powerful cars- but could smoke them around the corners... The new Z is now fast in a straight line - but everything is just a ton more competitive - however - I think the Z is still awesome if you just want something different on the road compared to the dime a dozen mustang / challenger / charger crowd...
The new Z needs work - suspension, intake, downpipe/full exhaust, tune... and tires...
Have to admit, that bmw is fast. Thanks for making this right.
Glad you like it!
Enjoying this video Sam
🙏🙏🙏🙏
That Z nismo struggling because of the trash gearbox factory tune , u can tell just from the sound , definitely needs a TCU tune as soon as possible
that's because it's also a POOR transmission, it doesn't even come close to the ZF in the supra or even the 10 speed auto in the mustang. The z is a flawed vehicle when compared to the supra which is a shame because it's the only real competitor
Very good review ❤
Thank you!
Welcom
Had a 240Z, 350Z, and 09 Nismo. Love the Z. Have a 2021 Supra and it’s a sweet car. Throttle house had the same three cars except the mustang had a track pack and the Supra beat them around the track. Sorry Sam the Supra isn’t just a drag car.
Love the content but just a suggestion. Most ppl can’t afford these cars so you should do some to see how they stack up against OG budget cars. Like q60s, Amg w204, c6s and etc
I like the Supra and Z does look killer in the nismo. Can't go wrong with either imo
Man, that BMW is quick!
Now that's a fact. Rebadged BMW.
A rebadged bmw 10x better than that mustang @@302Mustang13
@@302Mustang13 yeah which is what makes it the best car there.
@@roboticvenom1935 It'll be great until the warranty runs out.
I would rather have the rebadged bmw over that shitstang@@302Mustang13
hey sam your videos are one of the best I love success blessings I'm still waiting for the race of the manual Supra vs the manual Mustang dark horse I have the manual supra but I'm in Puerto Rico hahaha
Thank you
@@SamCarLegion Thanks you for make me happy with this Drags
Nismo Z is like a Godzilla having a kid with the weaker monster 😅 its missing a leg lol
Damn Sam, lighten up! You are so stoic while racing, when it suppose to be fun! 😆
I am focused and slept only 5 hours
I would love for someone to finally record a race between cars like this where the winner outperforms the others after completing at least 2 laps on a REAL Racetrack that has not just a straightaway, but winding curves, twists and sharp turns.
I worked as a tech for a honda dealership for 12 years and it is very common for techs when doing PDI(pre-delivery inspection)to put 87 oct in a car that is calling for 91 or better. Some of my co-workers would put 87 oct in civic type R because sales department said to, just so they could save a bit of money. I never care what the sale department wanted, I always put the right fuel for what the car is calling for. I bet this is what happened to the Z on the 1st runs, tech put 87 in it.
Nice video Sam thanks 😊
No problem 👍
They lucked out that the Mach 1 wasn’t a ten speed.
That b58 🫶🏻
Yeah is trash
lol nah
The B58 is 430 hp and in a lighter chassis ...... 🤡🤡
Gey BMW
@@manuelpistonstop the hate 😂😂
Never thought I'd see a Nissan z consistently smoke a mustang. And I love it
I was literally gonna say the exact same thing.
Is that a Bloopra?
i love his reaction @9:03.. you can clearly see his expressions just saying, i was right!! 😂👍
My gut was telling me the car was running like 🗑️ initially
@@SamCarLegionIt hit home when i saw your reaction man! Thanks for video and wish you the best 🙏
Octane on turbo cars Always makes a huge difference... Glad you persisted and reran the races...I remember driving a turbo SUV that ran killer fast hwen we rented it.. I cheaped out and used regular instead of super on the tank refill and that thing ran like a freakin dog afterwards.. couldnt believe the difference, like a different car!... Imagine the gap the supra would have done to the stang!
All cool mid level performance cars. Hoped a nismo would put up a little more of a fight but the B58 is king in this category.
A 10r80 mustang gt wouldve been a closer race for the imports. Its about 300lbs lighter than the mach1 and the 10speed is lightning quick. Thats supra was moving though for sure.
in what world is a 10r80 mustang gt with the first option pack 300LBS lighter then the manual mach 1. Why are you retarded this way- show me proof of the 300LB difference and I will paypal or zelle you $50 no BS
I had a 22 supra and a 22 mach 1, the thing with the supra is since its a bmw turbo, all I had to do was unlock the ecu and download a tune on my phone and it was a lil monster. The mach I would need to spend 15k to supercharge to beat it. The B58 is so dominant.
A tenth seconds of the difference between the Nismo and the supra. Wow. I own a GR Supra and a Q60. Thanks for the video.
That thing is pushing close to 500 hp. BMW cheated on me 😭😭😭😭😭
So the new Nissan Z is slightly down on straightline performance compared to its competitors. In the first drag races against the Mach1, which is even manually shifted, the Z was behind on traction and the Mustang normally is not known for good traction. So, they need to do some homework at Nissan to further improve it´s performance. The Supra simply pulls away steadily. Guess, it´s underrated on power and delivers more than claimed, since the weight ratio of both cars is quite equal.
Didnt you hear there was an issue with the car watch the whole video
@habibmalik938 the issue was that it's a nissan
@@juggydizzle911 go cry to your mama after losing
@@juggydizzle911Nissan>ford
Turns out that even a 2023 MT supra with 300tw tires is faster around a track than a nismo z with 200tw tires
only the automatic supra is, where do you see that a supra manual is faster then the nismo z??
@@roboticvenom1935 many places. Including the car and driver lightening lap where the manual supra did a 2:55.6 with 300tw tires and the nismo z did a 2:56.2 with 200tw tires.
Please do a video for An Audi TT RS versus the supra and the Z nismo 🙏🏻
What year is the mustang?
@@tombrown9246 2023
Nissan failed when they couldn’t keep the weight under 3,450lbs
i completely agree
I sure do love a non true side by side comparison. The only way to show true results would be to show similar drivetrains ie.. auto vs auto / manual vs manual or RWD vs RWD in a similar price range. Unfortunately to those folks who don’t know better out there. The car that would be the fastest on the street with a V8/auto trans wasn’t available guys. “My bad. Let’s compare a different version”. The Mach 1 was designed as a circuit track car. Not a drag car. Props to you guy who showed up to an auto fight with the manual. True digs and rows on your part. Ever thought of switching lanes or even switching drivers to see if the results are the same? The only way to have a true test is the law of averages. Maybe the air density was severely off for testing turbo cars or naturally aspirated cars. Or altitude comes into factor. Non of the runs showed a mph or kph for reference on the suggested track times. Not 1 consecutive full frame race. Way to many cut scenes. I honestly don’t know how these results were finagled out. I feel bad that this guy makes money off of people who don’t know better. Before you ask. 25 yrs+ drag racing all different makes and models of cars. Street and track.
He slapped a tune on this Nissan real quick 💻 🤣
And now you see why the folks with the Hyundai Elantra Ns mention "octane learn" so much. It makes a significant/noticeable performance difference.
Please get a DCT VS manual 2024 Hyundai Elantra N race!!
Who has a Mustang and doesn't want to race with it?!?
LAME.
Supra laughs in B58****
Interesting race , what you selling
Where in Canada? I plan on being in Canada on the 11th for my birthday.
🤔 ive alwys been a fan of Nissan, despite being driven by people with credit score lower than the speed limit, and never been a mustang fan because of the way they drive (they make you crash into crowds), but the V8 is soooooo sweet and they've really stepped up the suspension. Sad to admit but in this entourage I'd put the Nissan last and the supra first, solely based on looks. Yes, im a superficial bastard i know 😂
Yup, looks like about right for the nismo being 400lbs more
The Dark horse would have been perfect but I do understand sadly.
Tried so hard :( 2 guys have them but will not race