@@alxin_836 my favorite mustang is the 1998 SVT COBRA and I like that, and he likes what he likes and you like what you like there no best mustang they're all great.
I'd say I'm recent years the 2012 boss is definitely ford's pride and joy. Of course performance wise, the classics will get outdone by any recent base model gt, but for the time, the innovation, the impact, and the era it started, the first generation of mustangs, can't be beat, even if it is beat on paper
Feels great to find a jem low mile car hey :-) In 17 a 13 PW Boss came available with 1800 km. Wife said, "calling is cheap, check it out". Now it's in our garage. Happy days :-) Cheers on the purchase! Enjoy :-)
I drove this car. It's an absolute awesome package. Well put together all around. When used car prices drop this is a good one to pick up if you like a stick car that's really connected to the driver
getting a 2012 boss 302 with low millage , 15k miles asking 35k$ , i think its decent in todays market and they keep going up in price. what you think? :)
Great cars. I have a 13 PW and only fault/grievance I have is the shifter. One day I'll switch it with a MGW. Best of luck finding a Boss you like. SBY was my favorite shade, but couldn't find one I liked at the time. Cheers from Canada :-)
12.40 @ 114 is more like it. Obviously the 124 mph trap speed is an error on their part... A rare thing from MotorWeek. I've seen every show since I started watching in '84 with my father and I've only seen a few mess ups like this in all those years. No big deal though.
I have a white 2012 GT/CS just like in the opening of this video. Took delivery in September of 2011 and it’s been well cared for since. It’s a great car to take out for a weekend cruise.
I would think it would make sense to test the Boss on the track, because it was a more track focused car than being a drag strip car! And 0 to 60 is 4.0 or less on 93 octane
The stated "19mpg on regular" gas indicates that this testing didn't use the trackey (red). The red key requires 93 octane. A 0-60 of 3.93 and 12.0 quarter mile has been achieved with the trackey.
I have the 2013 Boss 302 Laguna Seca. It is rowdy beyond description. You can't even imagine. And the handling is unreal. It is an "experience" to drive it. You are never just going for a casual drive, it is always a mind blowing experience. This is compared to several other high end sports cars that I have costing many times more. It may now be 10 years old and have 9500 miles on it but it is still 10 years ahead of anything I have driven.
It is a special ride ehh! I also have a C6 Z, but my Boss gives completely different thrills! It's a pleasure to drive, sounds incredibly awesome while rowing gears, and feels very planted/ neutral, unless harsh bumps arrive in corners. But I can overlook the solid rear axle for the very very few times it's an issue. Everyone who goes for a rip enjoys the experience. Proof always wins with a smile :-) Cheers from Canada.
These Bosses were so hot 🥵 and now there so collectible,, I almost bought a red boss laguna Seca,, now that’s a whole different animal,, actual side exhaust, a Red n Blue key,, man I went for the Sexy Shelby!! I wished I could’ve gotten both ❤️❤️❤️
I wish I would have jumped on this when it came out. I did not know of much about cars and spec'd out a 2012 v6 premium with Club of America appearance package and Candy Red color. The car looks amazing and all and I love that it comes with all the electronics I want and leather interior. But I did not know enough about cars to know the Boss was something really special. Even more so today because it is a very unique rare car that was only $40k. Now a days you cannot get a unique rare car for under 60k or more.
I drove one, I didn't powershift but otherwise as fast as I could. I did it 3x a never missed a gear. First time driving. the shifter was good and no complaint other than the shifter rod was too short for me. I don't like one a foot and a half long like in my 73 TA but I think around 5" is reasonable.. relative to the top of the knob. Anything less than 4 at the top of the knob you can keep. I missed a gear in a 350z first time drive powershifting 3rd which is tricky and nailed 4th no prob but this shifter in the boss is much better. It also gave me more confidence than my own hurst shifter in my 4th gen Z28. I like that shifter/trans a lot but is what it is.
@personman8 The Boss 302 losses 10 ft-lbs but the reg 5.0's torque drops off quicker. Yes torque gets things moving from a dig but HP keeps them moving and the Boss 302 is still making power at its 900 RPM higher redline and will put out almost 500 HP with a disabled rev limiter @ 8000 RPM!
@1vdn992 that's the number GM has been hinting, the supercharger obviously adds weight but GM has removed weight from other areas of the car. GM has said the weight should stay around the current Camaro SS. Best estimates put it around 3900-4000.
After looking between the 2010+ gt500 and Shelby gt350, I made the decision to get a boss instead, currently looking for one, either orange or blue…hopefully I find one soon
@Motorweek.... I think the 124 mph trap is a just a LITTLE BIT HIGH ! Nissan GTR traps 121, Z06 traps 124, Lexus LFA traps 122, Mercedes SLS AMG traps 123.
No way did they run the 1/4 trapping 124...not unless they forgot to mention a power-adder. Probably 12.4 at 114 like LMBC6Brian mentioned. Still fast for an NA off the showroom floor Mustang
If your compression ration is borderline for detonation on lower octane gas, you may want to step it up to higher octane fuel, because the higher compression in conjunction with potentially running hot can lead to detonation. Reverend099 is correct that higher octane fuel does not have more inherent energy.
LOL you wonder how much he knows about cars. I don't care what the cue card said---no way in hell would I read "124 mph" cause I know that's just wrong
There’s absolutely no way this car traps over 120. More like low 11x MPH. Mid 120s is where the Shelby’s trap with a few hundred more horsepower. If that car was going 12’s at 120+ that would make the entire 1st/2nd gear nothing but wheelspin which it isn’t, and the power just isn’t there.
@soyntgo4it ok i give u that point the ZL1 is a heavy car but i love to see the mustang vs camaro go at it on the track to which is the better pony car
Love this car and I would buy one, but was wondering if it is going to come in black, not counting a laguna seca... does anyone know? Did they offer black back then?
@1IImrxII1 no they didnt, they made it as a race car for the street. the shelby is just a ton of power without any traction. but dont get me wrong i love the shelby too
one day i will one one of these....one day. guess ill settle with my grand prix GXP and 93' 5.0 mustang for awhile. and john davis hasnt aged one bit over the years!
YES! What Slappysayshi said! That is one of my BIGGEST complaints about car shows - They go to all the trouble of conducting a test drive, and then COVER THE ENGINE NOTES UP WITH blather, or with crappy metal music (like "Powerblock" on Spike - WTH, guys??). WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKIN' BABBLE OR ROADHOUSE "MUSIC"! GIVE US A WELL-TUNED, SCREAMIN' V8 *ANY* DAY! (If I hear "Bad to the Bone" ONE MORE DAMN TIME, I'LL PUKE!) ;-)
alberto acosta this car has different gearing and everything set up for the track. Straight line speed isn’t what this is designed for. Track maneuverability is what it is designed for
@1vdn992 hmm, more like 4000 lbs. That and much improved suspension it will be cake spanking the Boss around a track. It's basically a lighter, better handling, more powerful CTS-V. This is not simply a SS with a supercharger.
Must be SOME tailwind since a bone stock 12-13 Boss should be trapping 115 on the high side the 12.4 is spot on so I’m guessing that was a really bad typo
'After driving it likes its meant to be driven we managed 19 mpg'. Seems like you didnt drive it so hard. Equvivalent BMW M3 does like 8-9 mpg of hard driving, so either it's what I wrote earlier or this engine is one of a kind - powerfull yet economical
they will not let me post any copied links for you.but where i learned about octane and premium fuels was from my brother who was the IRL chief mechanic of the year in `95
@svt89 this car is faster than all the gt500s besides the 2013 to a certain point... Any 1/4 mile race abd road coarse race, this car will win but on a roling start this car might pull infront the boss... Ive raced a stock 2007 gt500 in my boss and i got him by 2 cars, from a dig
I don't know how they managed a 124mph trap speed. I own a completly stock 2012 Boss and my personal best is 117mph. I got it into the 12:20's with MT drag radials but never got over 117mph
I've been a fan of motorweek since I was 10 years old... I'm now 30 and it's still my favorite car review show!!! :-)
Your 40mor 41, of your still with is, how is your back old man? Lol.
This would be the best show if only they would track and give us lap times on these sporty cars. Same driver same track a la motor trend.
2012 Boss 302 is the best Mustang they ever made in my opinion. Perfection
ever heard of a gt350 and the gt350r
@@alxin_836 ever heard of an opinion
speed lover and i stated mine what’s your point
@@alxin_836 my favorite mustang is the 1998 SVT COBRA and I like that, and he likes what he likes and you like what you like there no best mustang they're all great.
I'd say I'm recent years the 2012 boss is definitely ford's pride and joy. Of course performance wise, the classics will get outdone by any recent base model gt, but for the time, the innovation, the impact, and the era it started, the first generation of mustangs, can't be beat, even if it is beat on paper
I just bought a 2012 with only 4300 miles a few months ago. It has 7500 now. I love it!
how much?
@@SportsMusicCars ~40k
Feels great to find a jem low mile car hey :-) In 17 a 13 PW Boss came available with 1800 km. Wife said, "calling is cheap, check it out". Now it's in our garage. Happy days :-) Cheers on the purchase! Enjoy :-)
He talks about the roar of the engine and we never get to hear it!
lol
I drove this car. It's an absolute awesome package. Well put together all around. When used car prices drop this is a good one to pick up if you like a stick car that's really connected to the driver
getting a 2012 boss 302 with low millage , 15k miles asking 35k$ , i think its decent in todays market and they keep going up in price. what you think? :)
@@yazal9884
That's pretty good actually for that mileage
@@yazal9884 I own a boss 302 I bought it 6k miles ago... she is now at 40k miles. I love it. Greatest Mustang ever built !
Great cars. I have a 13 PW and only fault/grievance I have is the shifter. One day I'll switch it with a MGW. Best of luck finding a Boss you like. SBY was my favorite shade, but couldn't find one I liked at the time. Cheers from Canada :-)
@@yazal9884 a friend of mine, just sold his 2012, he got more than 35, but it had like 3000 miles on it.
John Davis always gave the best and excitement filled reviews.
12.40 @ 114 is more like it. Obviously the 124 mph trap speed is an error on their part... A rare thing from MotorWeek. I've seen every show since I started watching in '84 with my father and I've only seen a few mess ups like this in all those years. No big deal though.
The forgotten performance mustang... and for no good reason. What an awesome car!
I have a white 2012 GT/CS just like in the opening of this video. Took delivery in September of 2011 and it’s been well cared for since. It’s a great car to take out for a weekend cruise.
This is a fucking beautiful car!
The review of the mt-82 trans didn't age so well.
I would think it would make sense to test the Boss on the track, because it was a more track focused car than being a drag strip car! And 0 to 60 is 4.0 or less on 93 octane
The stated "19mpg on regular" gas indicates that this testing didn't use the trackey (red). The red key requires 93 octane. A 0-60 of 3.93 and 12.0 quarter mile has been achieved with the trackey.
first car i ever fell in love with was a boss mustang back in the 90s
ummmm hey dreadlock drummer they didnt make boss's back in the 90's they were in the 60's and 70's lol
i meant that the first one i ever saw was in the 90s, as i wasn't born until 1990
I love this show and I think John is the best car reviewer ever!
I have the 2013 Boss 302 Laguna Seca. It is rowdy beyond description. You can't even imagine. And the handling is unreal. It is an "experience" to drive it. You are never just going for a casual drive, it is always a mind blowing experience. This is compared to several other high end sports cars that I have costing many times more. It may now be 10 years old and have 9500 miles on it but it is still 10 years ahead of anything I have driven.
It is a special ride ehh! I also have a C6 Z, but my Boss gives completely different thrills! It's a pleasure to drive, sounds incredibly awesome while rowing gears, and feels very planted/ neutral, unless harsh bumps arrive in corners. But I can overlook the solid rear axle for the very very few times it's an issue. Everyone who goes for a rip enjoys the experience. Proof always wins with a smile :-) Cheers from Canada.
Hagerty's has said the new Boss 302 is going to be a collectible in some years' time. I believe 'em. Very rad car,
These Bosses were so hot 🥵 and now there so collectible,, I almost bought a red boss laguna Seca,, now that’s a whole different animal,, actual side exhaust, a Red n Blue key,, man I went for the Sexy Shelby!! I wished I could’ve gotten both ❤️❤️❤️
I wish I would have jumped on this when it came out. I did not know of much about cars and spec'd out a 2012 v6 premium with Club of America appearance package and Candy Red color. The car looks amazing and all and I love that it comes with all the electronics I want and leather interior. But I did not know enough about cars to know the Boss was something really special. Even more so today because it is a very unique rare car that was only $40k. Now a days you cannot get a unique rare car for under 60k or more.
1990s super car performance.... great looks cheap to maintain great price......wow and i been a ford stang fan since 94.....
I drove one, I didn't powershift but otherwise as fast as I could. I did it 3x a never missed a gear. First time driving. the shifter was good and no complaint other than the shifter rod was too short for me. I don't like one a foot and a half long like in my 73 TA but I think around 5" is reasonable.. relative to the top of the knob. Anything less than 4 at the top of the knob you can keep. I missed a gear in a 350z first time drive powershifting 3rd which is tricky and nailed 4th no prob but this shifter in the boss is much better. It also gave me more confidence than my own hurst shifter in my 4th gen Z28. I like that shifter/trans a lot but is what it is.
anyone notice the mustang in the beginning was actually a nustang California special and not a Boss?
the 0-60 is a little low too. This car can do in 4.0 secs
Yes, good catch. I've noticed that almost all of these videos the intro car is NOT the feature car. But how did they not discuss the side pipes???
They do that all the time though, its usually a car they just tested.
“Sho you right'', nice catch.
@personman8 The Boss 302 losses 10 ft-lbs but the reg 5.0's torque drops off quicker. Yes torque gets things moving from a dig but HP keeps them moving and the Boss 302 is still making power at its 900 RPM higher redline and will put out almost 500 HP with a disabled rev limiter @ 8000 RPM!
Saving for one now
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Man this car is beautiful! Glad American manufacturers are making a come back.
@1vdn992 that's the number GM has been hinting, the supercharger obviously adds weight but GM has removed weight from other areas of the car. GM has said the weight should stay around the current Camaro SS. Best estimates put it around 3900-4000.
Like a boss
After looking between the 2010+ gt500 and Shelby gt350, I made the decision to get a boss instead, currently looking for one, either orange or blue…hopefully I find one soon
@Motorweek.... I think the 124 mph trap is a just a LITTLE BIT HIGH ! Nissan GTR traps 121, Z06 traps 124, Lexus LFA traps 122, Mercedes SLS AMG traps 123.
NICE CAR!
@twinimaging well thank you. i did not know that
@13sfaustino 110 for reg 5.0 i think they meant 114 mph for 302, 124 this car would be running circles around GTR
LIKE A BOSS!!!
The 2013-2014 gt500 with 662 will trap 124. But the boss should only be trapping 115ish.
Fastest I ever saw a BOSS 302 trap stock was 117.
Awesome review! $44k for a stock track car that is an M3 competitor, not too shabby!
Would love to see a sixth gen Boss 302.
it's get a little better mileage than my s80 and it' got over twice the HP. god i love TI-VCT
Is that also called "adaptive spark?" cause I was told that's what my 2008 Mustang Bullitt has. It allows the car to run on both premium and reg gas.
No way did they run the 1/4 trapping 124...not unless they forgot to mention a power-adder. Probably 12.4 at 114 like LMBC6Brian mentioned. Still fast for an NA off the showroom floor Mustang
If your compression ration is borderline for detonation on lower octane gas, you may want to step it up to higher octane fuel, because the higher compression in conjunction with potentially running hot can lead to detonation. Reverend099 is correct that higher octane fuel does not have more inherent energy.
LOL you wonder how much he knows about cars. I don't care what the cue card said---no way in hell would I read "124 mph" cause I know that's just wrong
I know. I immediately caught that mistake. Fastest I ever saw a stock BOSS 302 trap was 117. Which is still insanely good.
No doubt. Most likely he had a dyslexia moment and inverted the numbers from what was supposed to be 112 or 114 lol
There’s absolutely no way this car traps over 120. More like low 11x MPH. Mid 120s is where the Shelby’s trap with a few hundred more horsepower. If that car was going 12’s at 120+ that would make the entire 1st/2nd gear nothing but wheelspin which it isn’t, and the power just isn’t there.
@1vdn992 interesting, wouldn't it make more sense to give it the new 6.2 liter truck engine?
@AdamsJoshua85 its some kind of typo. probably meant 114
@careerfireman: where did you find the mustang gt road test I can't find it
the boss 302 is a winner i will vote for it be the number one car
NICE
@soyntgo4it ok i give u that point the ZL1 is a heavy car but i love to see the mustang vs camaro go at it on the track to which is the better pony car
Gotta love that he's talking about the BOSS 302 while standing in front of a California Special. Fail.
How did it manage to do 124 mph in the quarter with that modest power increase? I understand 114 but that must be an error
im amazed by the mpg... that can't be right
It ran 11.8 with drag radials and cool fresh air at sea level. I forget the trap speed but it wasn't 124
That thing just wants to lift up!
Wait doesn't the Boss have launch control? Is it just the Laguna Seca??
proud to own one of these xD
Still have it?
Still have mine! Same color as this one.
That's a nice car. I'm still looking for another car.
Will they do another Bullet or Mach 1?
Love this car and I would buy one, but was wondering if it is going to come in black, not counting a laguna seca... does anyone know? Did they offer black back then?
@1IImrxII1 no they didnt, they made it as a race car for the street. the shelby is just a ton of power without any traction. but dont get me wrong i love the shelby too
@socleanmx6 exactly....124 in their dreams more like 114 maximum all stock.
@goldenxwarrior It know five and those 2 have v6s
one day i will one one of these....one day. guess ill settle with my grand prix GXP and 93' 5.0 mustang for awhile. and john davis hasnt aged one bit over the years!
Did you get it?
The real question is, did they give him the red key?
That car drives like a real boss ............
what kind of gas does it take?
12.4@124? Trap seems usually high
YES! What Slappysayshi said! That is one of my BIGGEST complaints about car shows - They go to all the trouble of conducting a test drive, and then COVER THE ENGINE NOTES UP WITH blather, or with crappy metal music (like "Powerblock" on Spike - WTH, guys??).
WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKIN' BABBLE OR ROADHOUSE "MUSIC"! GIVE US A WELL-TUNED, SCREAMIN' V8 *ANY* DAY!
(If I hear "Bad to the Bone" ONE MORE DAMN TIME, I'LL PUKE!) ;-)
The trap speed is suppose to be 114 not 124. The 556HP Shelby will do 124 but not the Boss. Its a typo
Motorweek always underrating acceleration times lol the std 5.0 does 4.3 to 60 and this boss in 4.0 flat or less
alberto acosta this car has different gearing and everything set up for the track. Straight line speed isn’t what this is designed for. Track maneuverability is what it is designed for
The clutch gets beefed up? It’s the same clutch that they put in the GT and V6 mustang. High rpm lockout all the time with the stock clutch.
yes it SUCKS!
SPEC stage 1
I just wish this came with a HID setup
@1vdn992 hmm, more like 4000 lbs. That and much improved suspension it will be cake spanking the Boss around a track. It's basically a lighter, better handling, more powerful CTS-V. This is not simply a SS with a supercharger.
I really really hope they don't screw up the 2015 Mustang. >_
Motor trend said it was running 12.3 at 115.8 mph.
Want one
was that a review or a commercial.
@rickstarks ..The times here are not the Boss 302 best and has run 4.0 sec or better to 60 mph. The Corvette weight is also significantly lower.
Is there any particular reason he felt the need to talk throughout the entire acceleration run?
I thought it was was 444 horsepower
Must be SOME tailwind since a bone stock 12-13 Boss should be trapping 115 on the high side the 12.4 is spot on so I’m guessing that was a really bad typo
All I hear is excuses
@@RallyLancer95 car does 0-60 in less than 4 seconds on 93 LOL no excuses just bad show case
12.4 @ 124mph? Typo perhaps?
way to go Ford. GM could learn from this.
Eh hmmm ZL1 ring any bells?
that guy has been doing it like that for 20+ years
'After driving it likes its meant to be driven we managed 19 mpg'. Seems like you didnt drive it so hard. Equvivalent BMW M3 does like 8-9 mpg of hard driving, so either it's what I wrote earlier or this engine is one of a kind - powerfull yet economical
Wait, why the hell didn't they state the slalom times??
Seriously. The 5.0 traps roughly 110-113, and the boss around 115-116. A 124 trap would put it in the 11's easily.
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2:14-2:17 biggggggggggggg dent in that resonator.
@daniel0771 motortrend got those number so when an argument come about i use motortrends numbers
I'd like to point out that most other reviews are getting sub 4.0 second 0-60s for this car.
they will not let me post any copied links for you.but where i learned about octane and premium fuels was from my brother who was the IRL chief mechanic of the year in `95
@soyntgo4it cant wait
@svt89 this car is faster than all the gt500s besides the 2013 to a certain point... Any 1/4 mile race abd road coarse race, this car will win but on a roling start this car might pull infront the boss... Ive raced a stock 2007 gt500 in my boss and i got him by 2 cars, from a dig
My favorite mustang ever ill take this over a gt500
Amazing car if you like to drive. Still.
@billmcmeekin7909 oh I do like to burn out in gas powered cars still
what a hell of a trap speed in 1/4 mile!
I don't know how they managed a 124mph trap speed. I own a completly stock 2012 Boss and my personal best is 117mph. I got it into the 12:20's with MT drag radials but never got over 117mph
***** Likely a typo. 114 sounds about right, though, and maybe a little low when one uses the track key
the 0-60 time is a little low too. This car can do in 4.0 secs
Gas price might hve something to do with it. I have an 11 5.0 and can afford premium once in a while.
@EFK1993 i agree with you
What were you ppl smoking when you said the best shifter you’ve ever used ?
MGW for sure!
It was a step up from the t56 in my GTO
awesome ....sucks that they took fog lights of the were actually usefull
12.4 seconds at 125 MPH? DAYUMN!