Ford Mustang Boss 302 Review (M3 Fighters Pt.1) - Everyday Driver
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- The limited edition Ford Mustang Boss 302 (2012-2013 Model Years) is aimed at the E90 series BMW M3. The guys love the E90 M3, so they spent some time in the canyons to see if the Boss 302 can really dethrone the M3. And is the Boss better than the other M3 alternative, the 1M coupe?
See our original E90 M3 review here:
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I'm proud to say that I worked on the Electric Power Steering system in the current generation Mustang and glad to hear you guys liked it!
I have a Race Red Boss 302 for a daily. Screw the refinement and the need for a IRS, the Boss is just a BEAST!
You get far more than just 40hp with the Boss. Brakes, suspension, seats, aerodynamics are all different.
They alluded to that, they were clearly speaking power wise. I'm more worried about the fact they simplified the destroked and bored engine and lightweight rotating assembly to just more power and less torque. With an intake these can reach 8500 rpm, which is incredible, and it doesn't lose power up there
ANDHD and with forged internals, we know today (2020) it can hold 700, even 800hp to the wheels, which is like 900hp at the crank.
Me again and again great work guys. Just one thing, the GT and the Boss do not have the same engine. The Ford engine code name is not even the same. (Coyote for the GT and Roadrunner for the Boss). The block is the same but it's got forged internals,it's own connecting rods, pistons and valves and valves spring. it's own CNC ported head(not even the same aluminum alloy), it's own camshaft and unike high flowing intake. Just saying, don't want to be a pain in the ass!
Repeat over and over engine not the same, describes what everyone know that they have the same engines.
@@Jdalio5 I was the owner of a 2014 Mustang GT and now upgraded to a 2013 Boss 302. Not the same ENGINE. I even had the intake manifold from the boss on my GT the engine did not respond like this. Different Beast
Love my 2013 Boss 302 it's a beast !
Lori Calato so lucky. I want a red one sooooo bad
I wish fi i own one (BOSS 302)
Any way how much does it coast in this days...???
Boss 302 doesn't have "the same engine as the GT w/ more hp". The GT and the Boss share the same block and crankshaft, and the GT does also have forged rods, but that's about where it ends. Boss has forged pistons, GT has cast hypers. Boss has tighter valvesprings, more lift on the exhaust cams to help it breathe more up top, and cylinder heads that flow even more than the already ridiculous 5.0. Plus, the Boss intake manifold allows for more torque than the 5.0 above 5,000 rpm, where it counts.
Yep like everyone says...same engine
Dynamic Solution nope
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Can u plz tell me how much does it coast in this days ? (BOSS 302)
I paid $36,000 for one exactly like this one, it had 1585 miles on odometer and was in showroom condition. The higher the mileage the lower the price.
@everydaydriver Hello :-) question, is the boss 302 more refined, maybe a step up from a 2003 Honda S2000?
Great review, thanks. Have a 2013 Boss and love it. Use it as my main daily driver here in Colorado. Run Blizzak LM-60 tires for the snow and drive it year round. Has been great and a lot of fun in all situations, including tight, windy, and bumpy mountain roads, rain, etc. Same great innate characteristics remain even when grip is reduced. Previous cars have been C6 Z06, C5 Z06, '04 Cobra, WRX, and SRT-4 Neon. Boss is definitely my favorite car yet.
The boss 302 was ahead of its time, it was basically a gen 3 5.0 from the 18-19 gts
Thank you! We're not going away and we do hope that more people find us and feel we are as good as the big boys. That's very flattering - and we'll continue working hard to create reviews that are helpful, honest, easy to relate to, and well made.
Long term ownership boss 302 vs shelby..... the results might shock you
Please guys keep on doing these awesome videos! You definitely deserve to be up there with the best car reviewers ever! I love your style and the "no messing around" straight forward way.
Ford did an amazing job with this stang.
We're thrilled to hear you can so relate to this comparison. Congrats on a great car! We do most of our Videos around the LA area, but we were on PCH last year for a big review of the FRS v Genesis v Elise - you might enjoy that as it was shot in your back yard... We're jealous! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I always get so excited when I see that the latest video was posted "one month ago", cause then I know that a new video is on its way. What a pleasant surprise to see this video on my TH-cam homepage.
Just discovered you guys! Love that there are two of you and I love how you contrast each other's views in the videos. I really really wish the videos were longer and went into more depth!!!! Keep up the good work
I've watched this video like 100 times.. Love your works guys keep up the good work
You guys are, hands down, the best car review guys on youtube!
Great work EverydayDriver. Excellent perspective and solid production values. Really enjoy your review, especially as a 13 ' Boss owner. Keep up the good work.
We hope you watched both parts of this piece, including the wrap-up discussion between the guys where they picked their favorite and gave the reasons why. As an M3 fan, you'd probably also enjoy our M3 comparison for the E46 and E90 (referenced in these pieces). We're very pleased you found us and look forward to you watching more. Thanks for your thoughts.
LOVE!!! LOVE!! This is by far the most informative educational and unbiased review. You guys set the benchmark for other crappy wannabe mediums to follow. Keep up the great work. I have watched this like 10 times.
I just recently discovered your videos and I have quickly become a fan of your reviewing style. This video just reaffirmed my choice to get a used 2012 Boss 302.
I enjoy every video you guys make. The format, the analysis and how you convey the feeling of driving, priceless. The only thing that makes me a bit sad is the level of discussion (comments) on your videos, that just doesn't match the quality of the video itself. I hope to see more content this coming year, maybe some hot hatch action? The market is really interesting in '16 ;) ps. I bought an S2000 on faith after watching your content and it didn't disappoint ;)
We answered this in our latest FAQ video (FAQ #3). Thanks for watching and asking!
such a great review, im looking forward for the rest of the videos... thanks guy
Can't wait for part 2!!! I love M3 comparisons, it's gonna be my next car!
glad to see you back
FYI: The Boss Mustang comes with removable fog light delete panels. They pop out....so the owner of your test car didn't really "cut" them out.
The 2012 boss. The fog lights do not come out.
I have a 2012. The 2013 is the year they made them removable.
Great video as always, Don't ever change
We did a review of the Gen-Coupe (1st Generation V6) a few years ago, and just included the current model (2.0Turbo) in our recent Pacific Coast Highway piece with the FRS and Lotus Elise. We hope that helps. Thanks for watching and liking what we do!
As always, Great job guys!
Excellent review guys....
I never thought you guys would like the 1M that much. I had a 135i and liked it a lot. I traded it in for a 335i M Sport and love it even more. I never drove the M3 but, I'm sure it's one heck of a car and I can see why you guys like it so much. I owned 3 Mustang GT's in the past but at that time they had less than 300 bhp. I'm sure it would be a different experience owning a Mustang now. Especially the Boss 302. Thanks for another great video guys. I love your style and always look forward.
Thanks for saying that. We work very hard to create great content on a tiny budget - the obvious downside being that we're not able to do it very fast. But... we aren't going anywhere, so we're thrilled that you like what we do so much and want more. Lots more on the way this year!
Great video, i'm excited for the next one!
Awesome thanks can't wait for more reviews from you guys
I really like your videos! They are really in depth and amazing! You guys are the only people I watch! I was wondering if you guys could to the Bentley GT Continental Convertible?
Love this videos; avid car lover and performance intellectual, meaning I love researching how one car stacks up against another in all aspects of the car buying decision making process. Much respect give to yalls show and youtube videos it keeps people with the love of the auto industry up to date and current on new and used vehicles specs inside and out; I do however would love to see some videos and reviews on the new Ford f series trucks think it would make a great video for truck people.
outstanding quality video!!! your guys are awesome keep it up!!!
Awesome, this video was fantastic. Keep it up guys!
Great question. We don't want to drive the same cars over either. We try to only return to cars based on new models coming out, or new competition for cars we really like. It's been 3 years since we reviewed a Mustang. It was 3 years between Evo reviews (and it only returned b/c the Golf R called it out). We also take into account viewer requests and cars that get a lot of search traffic. We've got lots of cool used and generational comparisons coming. And we're listening to suggestions!
Man I love all cars.So please don't be haters
great work, guys. keep it up. you're a lot more credible than those guys on the other sites with their exaggerated/irritating voices. you remind me of talking with a buddy about cars and getting the real lowdown. you can get a '13 used boxster in the high 40's now...how about a road test of one of those?
Great video! Looking forward to part 2 ^.^
Great comments and compliments to you guys and your show! As a Boss owner and also german car snob, I feel exactly as you do! The Boss is my first Mustang and Ford product. I think Ford did everything right with this car... limited production, limited colors, recaro option, TracKey, etc. Bout time that US auto makers started thinking of handling and performance vs. straight line. The only thing I wish the Boss had more of was Alcantara! Headliner, dash, door inserts, shift boot, e brake.
Cool review, enjoyed it. Would I ever sell my 750 rwhp Shelby to get a boss, nope, I simply addressed the suspension to better cope with the big time power, not difficult, not that expensive and I have the power of a blown 32V V8..love the Boss love the Shelby.
Because the 2012 & 2013 Boss are so similar, we chose a 2012 since those are the ones available cheaper/used. Plus, the 1M is also a 2012 model. Yes, new Boss 302s are still available and being marked up wildly.
Meanwhile, we aren't defending the live rear axle... merely commenting on how good the car is in-spite of that reality. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video, as always
cant wait to see the other episodes.. damn 2 weeks you got to come up sooner >:)
You guys leave me wantin more just fantastic. I would like to see a muscle car video maybe the holden based Pontiac GTO?
You guys made me Believe what I wanted to believe since I first laid my eyes in the new Boss 302. I fell in love and what I love more is you guys. I couldn't feel more behind the wheel unless I was driving.
Good review!
Nicely done review.
love my boss and these guys covered the reasons why! yes I would love a better sound system, but the motor just sounds so nice and I'm a pure car guy. the driving experience is what matters to me most!
Good review. I enjoyed it.
wow that mustang is beautiful
im not a mustang guy, but this review makes me to buy one! great review.
Love how everyday driver is growing!
Im a big fan!
That boss 302 sounds just awesome. I'd love to listen to that all day long.
Awesome review of the boss, as if I didn't need another reason to buy one. It would be awesome if you could also do a review of the Camaro 1le against the boss.
As mentioned in the video, Ford specifically set the M3 as their target for the Boss 302. Similarly, when BMW shoved the M3 running gear into a 1 Series they welcomed the comparison to the M3. Obviously the M3, especially the sedan, is a more versatile car.
I cant believe that shows like Top Gear have such an enourmous amout of money to produce their entertaining but not really helping videos if it comes to facts and objective feedback and you guys struggle to raise money to produce more of those great reviews. I hope well be able to enjoy your work as long as it is possible!
You guys do the best reviews! Dont ever stop!
I'm currently saving money for one of these. Hopefully will have enough in less than a year. These videos make time go by so slow! Cant fucking wait.
Can you guys review the Hyundai genesis coupe, I've seen other reviews but you guys are the only ones I respect
I really liked that review guys (1M part too). I cross shopped a Boss and a 1M in fall 2011. Of course both dealers won't let me test drive the cars because they are both so rare. So I drove a 135i M package and a Mustang GT with the Brembo brakes and 19 inch wheels. Love em both but I feel for the Stang, because of the engine sound and rough behavior! So I bought a Boss. My cousin have a E46 M3 and my uncle a 2012 M5, I drove those and still preffer my Boss. Hope to have a chance to try a 1M!
BOSS the only way to go?..... There's a mustang out there with the name "SHELBY" across the back and a big ass snake head on it. If u want "refinement" don't look at a mustang period. They're not to be compared to BMW's and other "daily drivers. They're mean, angry and hate eurpoean cars. They're not refined and will throw you back. And that is entirely the point....
These Bitch boys hosting this channel just wouldn’t understand that.
Steve bitch boys 😂
check out what Jay Leno says about the Boss vs the Shelby ( in its own time ) today the Shelby GT350R is the king, but back in 2012/13 Boss 302 was the BOSS
Shit, I love my Boss. 2013 GHIG I think dude in the red shirt just hating. Mine shifts smooth after you get used to it.
Obviously didn't watch the fucking video and has never driven a Boss 302
I love these reviews. Entertaining and free of british accents.
Its not the same 5.0 engine, is a roadruner engine much better engine than the 5.0 engine, its stronger..
It's an upgraded 5.0 Coyote motor. It's not a different motor. It's the same motor just has upgrades. It was more powerful than the STOCK version (coyote) so they NICKNAMED it the Roadrunner. Still a 5.0 coyote essentially.
jamesmartin8532 the bottom is different
The boss 302 basically is a gen 2-3 5.0, upgraded crankshaft & more
Hardly ever mentioned is that the Boss motor is cnc'd, balanced, blueprinted, has different heads and cams, and larger sodium-filled intake valves, aluminum pistons, plus more. Even more rarely mentioned is what the red key does.
great video once again. Can't wait to see the conclusion. But there is one thing that's bothering me: Why are the same cars keep coming back? We've already seen the M3 review and also the Mustang. Same thing with the Evo. These are great cars every enthusiast should consider but there are so much more cars that there isn't a need to repeat. I'd love to see more old vs new like in the M3 review. Often you can pick up a 3-5 year old used one for half the money of a new one. But is it worth it?
i would get a boss 302 over the gt500 naturally aspirated yet completely forged to handle more boost than the standard coyote
EverydayDriver I'd love to see you guys do a review on the 2015 Mustang GT... And for that matter, hopefully the GT350 in the future as well ;)
Boss 302 at my work now (car dealer in Sacramento) wish I could buy it!!
I own a 2013 Boss 302, and there is nothing wrong with the clutch, it pushes in just fine and is not heavy in the least. The interior is typical mustang, a bit spartan but definitely not cheap or cheesy in the least. The comments about the rough and tumble and being angry and just flat out wrong. The car has a street key and that is a very street friendly way to drive the car, yet with plenty of power on tap when needed. The red key is fun time, more aggressive, yes for sure, but it mirrors how you drive the car, aggressive or full on performance is right there on tap. But the red key is also very street friendly when going easy. The red key idle with the flow restrictors taken out is just an amazing thing to listen to. Idle is not loud, but has a unique throaty grumble or gurgle that sounds like a dragon purring. Very throaty and alive sounding. Floor it however, and the sound goes immediately to a fine tuned race motor and that IS aggressive. I love the car, mild when going mild, but kickass fun when you want it to be. It is really like having two cars in one. If you are a BMW fan, then love your M3, however this Mustang has absolutely nothing to apologize for and underhanded complements wear very thin with me. I used to blow the doors off of M3's with my California Special, and the Boss a totally next level above that.
woohooo another video finally ! gr8 job guys cant wait for the other parts. the boss is a BOSS ...but im completely stuck on my e46 m3 6 speed manny tranny (no homo)
Great video
I enjoyed your video.
I do like M3's but recently I found the moment when I truly fell in love with Mustang as a car. My father has a reasonably stock GT convertible. A live rear axle car with half the rigidity taken out should be a bad choice as a daily driver in Ireland, except we recently found out thats not the case. We drove over to mainland Europe, crossing France , Germany and Belgium without any hassle, and having fun whilst doing so. An impressive feat for a car designed to go straight, quickly!
I can't stand BMW guys. Always thinking they're driving off the dealer lot with the hottest shit on the road. They talk about things like "refinement" in a performance argument. Its stupid to me. And they all repeat that stigma "muscle cars are great if all you want is a big nasty motor but they don't turn". What about the Boss 302, Z/28, 1LE Camaro? In 1967, 1969, and 1988 these cars were some of the best handling cars in the world, and still are today, especially in their price range. Yet all we ever get is "muscle cars don't turn". And that's just a couple, there's many muscle cars throughout history that staked their claim specifically on handling. Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, maybe when I'm driving a Boss or 1LE, or Z/28 I should be happy to be underestimated so badly
Best reviews!
Haha..although I own a 2013 GT this type of video make me happy to be a mustang owner in 2013. The 5.0 liter is such a well balanced engine. I do have to correct you guys however. The engine in the boss is not the same motor as GT with only more power. Boss 5.0 motor has forged internals and ported heads along with a shorter intake manifold. That's where the lower tq come from actually but able to rev to 7500 stock and even to 8k safely when tuned.
Having owned both its not even close. Boss 302 all day.
I want this car. Probably the finest example of the platform....
This made me happy.
The Mustang is sooooooooo good looking. Greetings from the UK, wish they sold it here (though i can't afford 1 anytime soon)!
wow! it's been so long!
I love these comparisons. Lets do one with 300c srt8 or charger srt8 compare to a higher end Germans four door sedans!
I think Paul said it best "I would own this car, absolutely, but I think I would own it as a second car."
I have a Mustang (not a Boss 302 sadly, mine is a good deal older) but it is my second car. I have a nice midsize 4 door sedan as my daily and drive the Mustang on nice days, or when I just want to enjoy driving.
this the 3rd time i watch this video
The 2015 Mustang 5.0 is supposedly using the Boss intake and power should be similar, around 445 hp.
I loved my Boss 302, I despised the shifter in that car though. It was always the biggest disappointment every time I hit the road. I think I'd still take it over the E92, now if were talking timewarp example of an E46 M3 then I might be swayed.
R James easy fix. Should have bought an aftermarket shifter. I got a Steeda Tri Ax a week after I bought my Boss. $200 for the shifter and $120 for the install. Short throws and shifts like a dream.
Nice entertaining review had to check the prices where i live 77.000 $for new boss and 80.000 for m3 with 10.000miles both sold by dealerships. so if i had the Money the m3 is the better deal, if i lived in the USA maybe a different story
Guys you do a really good job, after TG and Drive my favorite show. What if you would compare an M3 to a road legal Racecar? I have driven the E36 and E46 M3's but they never really got me. After that I could sit once on the passengers seat of a Dax-Rush-Busa turbo,and have driven a Regual Caterham Roadsport 175 and all of the sudden M becomes for me only Marketing.I wanted to buy a Used E90 M3 next year, but now I got an Alfa 156 Diesel for every day and getting a Caterham or Dax next summer.
HIGHLY! Recommend a mustang. Sit down... Smile wide.
As a BMW owner, I have bias towards the M3...however, that Mustang is a really nice ride. It just sounds incredible.
ford deserves a medal for making a live axle car handle so well
Hey guys, did you consider the Camaro SS 1LE for this comparison? I've seen other reviews of it on track and it puts down better laptimes than the Boss302.... regardless I still enjoy your reviews. Very refreshing from the usual slew of biased journalist magazines. :)
To call the BOSS engine "essentially the same" as the 5.0 is 100 incorrect. The engine is completely reworked. Starting with a fully forged rotating assembly with Mahle pistons, the heads are unique with ports and combustion chambers which receive 2.5 hours CNC work per head, along with sodium filled exhaust valves. The intake manifold is a racing style intake and the cams are aggressively reworked. Needles to say...It is significant.
Thumbs up for the sickest license plate ever!
Ford doesn't pump sound actively into the cabin they did so on '05-'10 models, but not on current 5.0 cars. They do attenuate certain frequencies not native of the engine using viscoelastically dampened IP cover and gauge shield.
Hey guys, how about a comparison of the GT350 and the M3/M4? I'd love to see that!