Nate the NOT SO GREAT | TED LASSO Episodes 2x11 & 2x12 Reaction & Commentary
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- Until next time! We're sad to see the end of season 2, but have no fear...we will be back! After one hell of a finale, we're impatient (to say the least) for season 3! We hope you join us when the time comes, but for now, enjoy these last two episodes, and check out our reaction to the original sketches next week! ❤️Jacqui & Sam
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00:00 Intro
01:52 Episode 11 Reaction
14:45 Discussion
17:11 Episode 12 Reaction
36:42 Discussion/Outro
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First time watching...
Ted Lasso Season 2, Episode 11 - Midnight Train to Royston
Ted Lasso Season 2, Episode 12 - Inverting the Pyramid of Success - บันเทิง
The renaissance painting is probably one of the funniest jokes in the series so far
If you look at the whiteboard in Nate's office, the whole season there's a message from Ted about Nate the Great, showing that Ted's appreciation was there the whole time Nate just didn't look for it.
I like how Beard knows immediately who leaked the story. It was him, Roy, Higgins and Nate in the room when Ted told them about his panic attack. He knows Roy and Higgins wouldn’t have done it and he didn’t. Also Ted protects Nate even after all that and he does it several times including when Nate is there
Says that Ted is the bigger man.
When Dr. Fieldstone says in the bar "son of a bitch stole my move", I believe it might be a reference to the movie Good Will Hunting, a movie about a therapist and patient. At the end the therapist, played by Robin Williams, reads a note left by his patient, played by Matt Damon. In the letter Damon's character writes a line that Williams used earlier and Williams responds with "son of a bitch, he stole my line".
That was very much my reading of it too.
One of my favorite movies, I got the reference right away and it was great
That's what I was thinking, too :D I love that movie, so well done.
Iconic; also not in the script. Robin Williams improvised it on the spot, RIP
Cheers is the show that had the other Sam and Rebecca. Cheers was one of the biggest shows of the 80's-early 90's, and Ted Dansons first big role. Also, about Ted's wife not changing her last name, keep in mind we were looking at Ted's phone, and he might still be working on being able to take his last name off of her listing in his phone.
Oh that's for sure the assumption we're supposed to make. We just wanted to provide some alternate theories 😊
❤️Jacqui
Also Jason’s uncle George Wendt was on Cheers so that’s an obvious show to reference (his photo was featured in Roy’s kebab place)
@@reliablereindeer I had no idea they were related! Thanks for the info!
@@reliablereindeer Not to nitpick, but it's Wendt.
@@theshamelist I mean, I assume she kept his last name because we, the audience, will recognize her if she still has his last name.
I was worried Jacqui was going to have a stroke due to holding back her feelings towards Nate for the past months
35:09 The actor who played Trent confirmed Trent has been promoted to a series regular. Maybe Trent is writing a Ted Lasso book in season 3?
Or maybe he becomes the new PR guy after Keely left.
@@TrackMaster844 I was thinking about him being more of a press officer rather than PR.
@@fayesouthall6604 Actually, that does sound more up his alley.
You called it
It looks like they've promoted pretty much every regular character into the opening credits. Cool move for their final season.
I could feel the anger swell in Jacqi with the shot of Nate at the end. Season 3 will be great.
I loved the addition of the Jan Maas. Coach Beard and Ted were apart of a improv group from Chicago that lived and performed in The Netherlands. The Dutch were very blunt with them and so they added a character that would always speak their mind
Boom Chicago baby!
Having had Dutch friends Jan Maas is one of if not the most accurate representation of a Dutch person I've ever seen on TV lol
I'm pretty sure that coach Beard's reaction to Nate's confession that he'd kissed Keeley (@25:39) was expressing exasperation with Nate as he'd been expecting him to confess to leaking the story to *Trent Crimm - The Independent* and stabbing Ted in the back,
Wanted to take a moment to say that I watch a lot of reaction videos. It often has the feeling of watching a show you've already seen and loved with a friend whose watching it for the first time.
This is the first time watching all these episodes where I'm seeing 1 person seeing it for the first time and 1 person who not only has seen it but is also a valuable source of information about it. I've LOVED this. You guys are good at this and deserve hundreds of thousands of followers if not millions. And I watch people who have millions.
I am looking forward to watching more, and I hope you've already done season 3- but if not yet, I will wait for it, because it will be worth the wait.
To be fair to Ted (and a legendary UCLA coach), “There is a choice you have to make in everything you do. So keep in mind that in the end, the choice you make, makes you.” - John Wooden. Dumbledore may have been a basketball fan.
I felt every Jacqui twitch, scowl, and double birds at the torn up Believe sign. Such a well-written, well-acted show. Can't wait for season 3. Love your reactions and thoughtful commentary.
I never realized this until this watch but I have to think it’s intentional: on Dani’s penalty kick, he goes upper left. That’s where he went when he killed Earl. So not only is he overcoming it, he’s doing so by putting the ball exactly where he put it during that accident. Extra catharsis, maybe?
Fun fact: Most of the characters in this show are named after real people the creators of the show know. And the character of Sam is named after the comedy actor Sam Richardson who is good friends with Sudekis who plays the African billionaire in the last two episodes. Also the greying of Nate’s hair is a tribute to the real Coach Jose Mourinho whose hair also greyed early and is viewed as one of the most arrogant soccer coaches in the world. He even appeared in an ad for Ted Lasso below
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Great shout on Mourinho, I never made the connection! He did indeed become very bitter as he greyed.
It's not just a nod to Jose Mourinho, Nate's whole (footballing) arc is based on "The Special One", including Mourinho's dress code and his ability to exploit vulnerabilities in other teams (people). Nate's persona arc is of course based on Anakin Skywalker....
@@rolandcooke Damn you're right. This show never ceases to amaze.
Also Mourinho (like Nate) started his career neither as a player nor immediately as a coach. Mourinho was actually hired initially as a translator for Bobby Robson.
Sam and Rebecca are characters from Cheers. There was a lot of will they/won't they, and then there wasn't haha.
I've watched a bunch of therapists and psychiatrists react to Ted, and they all agreed that it was inappropriate for her to leave with just a letter, for the exact reasons Ted listed (abandonment issues). Because the leaving part can be traumatic for the patient (particularly if the sessions was helpful), the goodbye is usually planned in advance and there are no surprises.
Granted, it's only about 6 data-points, but there must be something there.
They all agreed she came on way to strong with her intro, also.
I have mainlined all your Ted Lasso videos in the last two days, preparing my body for season 3. For some reason I love using blind reactions as recap, and yours have been excellent. :-)
Now that we're all caught up, I'd love to see a compilation of all the knowing looks we got from Jackie whenever she knew where Nate was headed. ;)
@toddsmitts - Oh... that is a suggestion I would vote for more than once!
Ted's comment on learning about Rebecca and Sam, referencing a TV couple, refers to Sam Malone (Ted Danson) and Rebecca (Kirstie Alley) on Cheers.
So great to see that Jacqui had the exact same reaction as me when I saw the torn BELIEVE paper. Sending love
Nate's turn is SO upsetting because of both how much we loved him... but also how honest this heel turn is. It absolutely makes sense with both what has happened to him and who he is.
Also... Nate's not totally wrong - Ted DID "abandon him". They didn't share a single 1 on 1 scene since late last season (the Roast in Liverpool). Of course, that's because Ted was dealing with his own problems, but that's not what Nate sees. And Ted brought in a new coach (Roy) that Nate feels is to replace him. Obviously Nate is wrong about all of these assumptions, but that's how it appears from his angle/interpretation.
I do think it's interesting how this series constantly shows "The Bad Guy" in a way that we understand how they became that way (First Rebecca, then Jamie Tartt, now Nate). Of course, tearing the Belief sign is basically unforgivable, and we're now clearly in "The Dark Forest" for this show (as predicted by Ted at the start of the season).
Good assessment 😊
1. You didn't show it, but I loved that Will pretty much just froze up when Roy and Jamie came in. Good defensive instinct. I would have done the same.
2. Just as Hamlet could not kill his Uncle Claudius while he was praying, Roy could not punch a repentant man.
3. "YOU MEDIUM TALENT PIECE OF SHIT!" "Medium talent?"
4. Hence forth, you shall be known as... Darth... NATER.
To me, the bittersweet Season 3 ending is likely them winning, but Ted immediately announcing he's leaving and going back to America to be near his son. Roy gets the Head Coach job.
It's bittersweet because of the impact Ted had on all of them, and the hole he'll leave in their lives.
Even Beard probably doesn't leave with Ted. They've spent too long on Beard's relationship with Jane.
As far as Nate goes... there's no way he winds up in charge of AFC Richmond. Whether he gets ditched by Man City, redeems himself with Ted, or not.
He probably has a redemption story but I don’t know 🤷♀️
I believe Nate wants to be punished and wants to be seen as a threat at the same time. And I think the conflicted way he feels constantly is part of why he is searching for a direction.
Nate's treatment of Will is like a love tree that walks: leaves a lot to be desired.
Seeing the shot that the series started with versus seeing the shot they ended with *chefs kiss*
Getting the last, best news out of the way first... I'm delighted that you two are committed to reacting to Season 3. Gotta happen!
This last two episodes reaction with every attention upon every moment / detail that was singled out (including Jacqui's giving Nate the birds) was so incredibly spot-on.
But the very best part of this Shame List reaction was the whole of season 2 takeaways, the state we are left in, and your thoughts of the possibilities for season 3. As wonderful as Ted Lasso has been, I have a similar hope as you two have for the series end- ending at the last page of a most meaningful chapter in lives of our beloved TL characters as they came together, grew together, and came to that most special moment, and yet, only the turning-of-the-page moment when we were meant to leave them... in the course of their bigger, broader lives to follow.
This collective lives end of a chapter thought... makes me think of another excellent series called; Chuck, that IMHO succeeded to close at just such an ideal, poetic moment... at least, I'm one of the Chuck fans who saw the (somewhat more controversial) series ending that way. ( ;-)
Again, thank you so much, for two seasons of excellent TL reactions!
Ted was quoting famous UCLA basketball coach, John Wooden, when he said that it is our choices that define us. He is the man who created the pyramid of success (which Ted has on the wall with Wooden's autograph.
We all look at Beard's relationship with Jane as dysfunctional which it definitely appears to be and we tend to interpret that as a blind spot in Beard's judgement. But in the church scene in Beard After Hours, he really nails why he is with Jane - when he's with her, the world seems more interesting. Personally, I can't fault that motivation.
The knowing Jim Halpert looks into the camera 🤣🤣🤣🤣
S3 - Waiting, patience...Words like that, always my last option. 😄 ♥ the Good Will Hunting reference.
♥ Rebecca & Keeley's friendship! 'Hurt my feeling' - LoL 😀 The Renaissance painting scene! 😀
Good points about Nate not the great. Just wanna add that Jacqui's hair & sweater are on point!
Love to see you guys react to Extraordinary Attorney Woo or Halt & Catch Fire
The title for the last episode is also the name of the book Beard is reading on the plane in the pilot.
Glad to find this channel! I definitely had a lot of similar feelings, like how Nate is the Darth Coach behind Emperor Rupert whispering in his ear, or like Wormtongue from Lord of the Rings
Seeing the literal light that leaves Nate's eye in the final shot really was epic I remember that moment specifically.
This series got me to find your channel and I can't wait to see more reactions going forward!!
Using the Radiohead hit “Karma Police” was a really powerful way to end that episode with the Trent Crimm text. “I’ve given all I can, it’s not enough”. Everything in this show is so intentional. Here is the full scene for context:
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Love you guys!
That scene with Roy and Jamie at the end was so Major League! (If you haven't seen that, its worth a watch!) Great Reaction and I love this show so much!! Great call Sam on Nate. Can't wait for S3.
Soon as Rupert went to Nate after telling Rebecca he sold all his shares. I legit knew he was talking to Nate about buying a new team and hiring him as manager
When Sam's on the phone with his dad..one of the folks playing soccer in the park is wearing an AFC Richmond jersey with "OBISANYA" on the back. Sign from the universe!! I didn't notice the tape over Dubai Air, though. Good eye!!
I would just like to shout-out Phil Dunster's dancing skills during the N'Sync scene because he NAILED it. And if there's any symbolism to Nate's suits being too tight, I'd wager it's because he's so repressed and emotionally strangled. He lives in a constant state of anxiety, with that pressure bearing down on him. His entire speech to Ted is fully internalized self-loathing. The way Nate handled everything is terrible. He deserves to be held accountable. But...so does Ted. He saw Nate changing for the worse in front of him and he never dealt with it. As the head coach, that's his job. But he avoided it because he doesn't like difficult conversations and heavy emotions. That's on Ted.
Having stewed on the end of this season for a while, I have a lot of thoughts, so apologies for the length of this comment.
I loved both Dr Sharon and Beard in these episodes - really supportive of Ted in their own, slightly intimidating, ways.
I agree with Sam about not having sympathy for Nate. We've seen throughout the season that he's not curious - he doesn't listen to Beard explaining why he shouldn't be worried about credit, he doesn't listen to Keeley when he misreads that moment and tries to kiss her, he doesn't listen to Roy when he explains why he's not mad about the kiss and he doesn't listen to Ted and all the ways in which it's clear he is still supporting him. While it's entirely realistic (and well written and acted), it's just frustrating that he's so stuck in his perspective that he flips out. Him ripping the sign was probably the nail in the coffin for me.
In terms of Roy and Keeley, I'm so nervous about the start of season 3. Having already primed the audience to think of Cheers with the reference to Sam and Rebecca, the scene between Roy and Keeley at the end is really similar to the Diane's last scene (where she disagrees with her partner about whether her leaving for 6 months is them breaking up). Just too much of a coincidence for me that Roy's holiday is six weeks...
I think this season was the dark forest and as Ted reassured us, fairy tales (and hopefully this show) do not start, nor do they end, in the dark forest, so I'm expecting season 3 to be slightly more positive on the whole. Season 1 ended with the team losing, but together, season 2 ended with them winning, but torn apart, so I can see season 3 ending on Richmond as both victorious and together, but maybe that victory isn't the Premier League - they've got some retribution to take in the FA cup after the heavy defeat in episode 8.
Glad to have gotten this far with you both, hopefully we don't have too much longer to wait for new episodes!
Nathan’s suits are always a little too tight, or far too big. It is intentional to show that Nathan is never comfortable with himself. He is the only character who isn’t comfortable in his own skin.
Even Colin, who has confidence issues, is actually comfortable with himself. Nathan not being comfortable in his own skin is why he has the chip on his shoulder that develops over season 2.
Thanks for this series of reactions- really enjoyed it.
One observation- you are right that teams in the Premier League will normally only face each other twice a season, once at home and once away. However they also play in the FA Cup, a competition the show has featured already, and could conceivably play each other in that too. Perhaps the Final…
Sam (Ted Danson) and Rebecca (Kirstie Alley) are the couple from Cheers
19:48 fun fact, since we don't really like guns much here, police are, by default, only actually equipped with the ability to shout "oii!" at people
The Sam & Rebecca TV couple reference is from Cheers
Fun fact regarding Sam’s theory at the start of the episode (obviously there is no way he would know this but thought it was an interesting way of showing how huge English football and how different it is with American sports):
If Rupert was to start a new team like Sam suggested, that team would have to start in the non-leagues (semi-professional leagues), I believe the highest a new team can start is the 8th tier of football in England (I could be wrong but somewhere around there). The fully professional leagues don’t even start until the 4th tier.
So that would be it would take them at least 7-8 years to get promoted all the way back to where Richmond are, and even that is unlikely as they would need to get promoted every single year.
"Beard always knows"
Indeed
6:56 The TV show Cheers. Ran from 1982 to 1993. It was the first place that most people were introduced to Woody Harrelson. It's also the show that Frasier spun off from. In Cheers, Sam Malone was played by Ted Danson and Rebecca Howe was played by Kirstie Alley.
This is so bittersweet - season 3 needs to get here ASAP
Sam & Rebecca are from Cheers - & Fun Fact - George Wendt, who played Norm on Cheers, is Jason Sudekis' uncle
Watch the very first scene in season two, and then watch the last scene in season two. Perfect!
Lawful Cool-adopted as official alignment. Thanks. 👍
An interesting fact about the song that was playing in the background when Roy and Keele are facing each other and telling all truths about Nate kissing and Roy confession... That song,Cold/mess by Prateek kuhaad, is actually a break up song ... Obviously they haven't broken up yet but maybe an Easter egg of things to come??
Nate got so grey because a lot of him was based on Jose Mourinho, one of the best coaches in the last two decades.
I think there were actually two Ted Lasso tv spots with the man himself, Jose, when they were promoting the show.
He was an interpreter first for football teams (Nate’s kit man role is similar, starting from the bottom) then became an assistant (like Nate) at FC Barcelona, one of the biggest clubs in the world. There was no stopping him after that, he won the highest national league in the biggest leagues in the world, Italy, Spain, England.
Mourinho also nicknamed himself the ‘Special One’, hence Nate calling himself ‘Wonder Kid”.
Based on Mourinho’s career arc I’d expect Nate to be successful in season 3 with West Ham and I think his redemption will come from being humble in victory.
I think if Nate has a redemption, it will be learning (or finally absorbing the lesson) from Ted that being a great head coach isn’t always about the X’s and O’s . . . it’s about building a great team and hiring the right people and giving them the agency to do their jobs.
Damn I never noticed the similarities with Mourinho! The nicknames make it seem so intentional.
It's good that you've recently finished the OG Star Wars trilogy for the subtext of the three seasons of Lasso is loosely patterned on it, with season 2 mirroring Empire, let's hope for an Ewok equivalent in season 3 😜
As a West Ham fan I'd love for us to have Ewoks playing for our team. It would make up for having Rupert and Nate there!
Sam and Rebecca. Cheers. Jason'r uncle George was a regular on there. His picture was on the wall in Roy's Kebab shop.
In football (soccer) player contracts are bought and sold between teams (There is basically no "trades" like we see in American sports). The player has to agree, and will sign a new contract with the new team, but players are essentially financial assets to the team they play for.
Plus if contracts run out, players can leave and join another club on a Free Transfer.
Rebecca and Sam were in Cheers
Sam Richardson, who plays Edwin Akufo, is so much more likable as Richard Splett on Veep, another amazing show you should react to if you haven't seen it yet (along with Silicon Valley and Barry, other HBO standout comedies.)
I honestly feel like a very bittersweet ending is coming for the show. Maybe Rebecca is forced to sell the club because of money issues but she finally is comfortable with being loved again. Maybe Ted gets fired but gets his love life back on track and finally overcomes his anxiety. So many directions the show could go in
Not based on anything solid but I would say that Nate's suits always look too tight as a symbolic way to show that even when he is having success and being recognized, his oversized ego and need for recognition are so big that nothing feels enough for him. No matter the suit (a common symbol of respect or success), it is never big enough for him.
Edit: One more thing interesting about Nate's suits, is that the first suit he wears was his father's, and the suit was too big for him, which to me also symbolizes how Nate felt he could never measure up to his dad (ie he couldn't fit his suit).
Here's my current ending predictions
They win, Ted goes back to coach in America. Dickhead ex-husband screws over Nate when he refuses to do something truly evil to the Richmond franchise. Nate is redeemed, stays West Ham coach and Dickhead ex-husband is taken down after an investigative article is published by Trent Grimm, independently. Roy becomes head coach of Richmond. Nobody ends up with anybody else significant at this time because they are all young, intelligent, strong people who are moving into new chapters in their lives. Except, surprisingly, for Beard and and Jane who marry and travel the world together... Or, you know, none of that.
This is all plausible.
Ted is referencing ucla coach John wooden who they called the wizard of westwood
@6:45 Ted means Sam and Rebecca from Cheers - Ted Danson and Kirstie Alley
It was fun watching this. Look forward to Season 3
I know this was filmed a while ago, but Sam and Rebecca are from CHEERS!
The believe sign being torn up by Nate made me so mad for about a week!! My sister started watching it and I, like Jacqui, struggled to hold it whilst she was saying “Nate is cute” she learnt though 🤣 F**k Nate!!!
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Worse than Nate thinking Ted hated him: Nate thought Ted considered him irrelevant. It's a matter of the grandiosity that Nate absorbed on becoming the new coach, punctured repeatedly by evidence of irrelevance. He couldn't get the table he wanted in the restaurant. He couldn't get his father's admiration. The Dutchman called him infantalized. Beard didn't report Nate's cruelty to Ted. The picture wasn't on Ted's desk (sadder--Nate had no way of knowing it was on Ted's nightstand NEXT TO THE PICTURE OF HENRY). Even Roy considered him unimportant enough to cause rage for the kiss. The opposite of love isn't hate; it's apathy. Nate was responding to what he perceived to be an onslaught of apathy. Combine it with the grandiosity he'd developed, and he became a black hole of resentment.
15:17 One of the great things about being in a relationship is that you can be honest.
34:33 Well Done Sam, don't be Nate.
Nate thinks Ted is helpless without him but It's the other way around , and he'll learn that when no one at West Ham will give him the support he needs
This 100%
The show's writing didn't do Nate any favors this season but it's still kinda surprising that most of the audience seems to hate him more than they did anyone else, including someone with no redeeming qualities like Rupert. Even if we ignore the racial background that is a big part of what makes him that way, we still know a lot more about him and how he's potentially good than we did when we first met Rebecca or Jamie, so that should have been enough to condemn his actions without hating him personally.
If S3 is the end of the show, I think a fitting end would have him being successful but learning that that's not all that matters through Ted. Having Richmond going anywhere above mid-table would be too much, so I think that that conflict will happen in a cup match - bonus points if it's at Wembley again.
Fully agree on Nate, including the ending. I’ve seen a lot of people say he should end up back coaching at Richmond, but I don’t think that should be the case. He’s never truly fit in at Richmond and it’s been traumatic/stressful for him. The ending I’d love to see is for him to remain with West Ham and build it up into a great team. To incorporate Ted’s teachings - mainly, that success is about more than wins and losses - but not duplicate them, instead putting his own positive spin on things.
One example of a really good ending that does the thing where it leaves room for an imagined future but is still satisfying is The Expanse. Which would actually be something I highly recommend you both watch. The characters and story are so good, and I'd love to see you guys react to it.
You’re the second person to recommend the Expanse, and it’s reinforcing that we want to do it. (My brother’s been wanting me to watch it for years). Hopefully we can check it out soon. Thank you! ❤️Jacqui
In a bunch of different ways, Nate's suits are overcompensation for his insecurities and a physical representation of his inability to "fit" in his new role as a coach.
Remember, his first suit in s01 was the baggy one that his dad had bought him when he was younger -- a symbol of his infantilization and immaturity
But then Ted helped him out by buying him one that fit him better but was still not quite right -- which technically showed growth (he was becoming more than just the Kit Man for the team and was slowly being taken seriously by people), but also reinforced the infantilization because it was something that was once again bought FOR him by a 'father figure' and not bought by himself (the Dutch player even points this out in s02)
And the by the end of the season he has purchased a new suit on his own -- which technically should be the final sign of his growth/maturity, but it's even tighter than the one before -- a sign that he's fitting into his coaching role even less because it's now starting to go to his head
Also, when it came to Rebecca's dad's funeral he had two options for suits to wear -- his original, baggy, black one (which would've been socially appropriate since its a funeral), or his trendy, tight, grey one (which he thinks he looks better in) -- and he not only chose the latter option, he ended up as the only character NOT in a black suit (re-enforcing just how much he is starting to stand out in a negative way, even though he can't see it until it is too late -- no matter how much Beard tried to warn him)
Along the same lines, it has been suggested that Nate was intentionally greying his hair throughout the second half of s02 -- trying to shed the identity of 'The Wonder KID' (something that like the suit that Ted bought him, he originally relished before he found it to be infantilizing) by seemingly making himself look older/"more mature"
Like you both I understand where Nates head space is at but he became an enemy when he ripped the Believe sign like a spiteful 4 year old. Honestly the only thing I'm worried about is the West Ham team Nate is now coaching. Can't wait for season 3 and your reactions to it.💗💜💙
I loved both seasons and love the reactions you two have. Keeley and Roy are totally wonderful. I would love it if they got married in season 3. I’d love more series.
Ted's picture of Nate wasnt at his desk because Ted had it by his bedside with his son.
Such great reactions to a truly brilliant show. Y'all had me laughing and crying along with you, and my appreciation of this channel is in no way enhanced by how ridiculously hot I may or may not find moments like this to be... 36:32 😍
It's really all about the content and the chemistry... 😉👍
Great to have followed along this series reaction. I absolutely love this show.
Jacqui provides a lot of insight so it was a very engaging watch. Subbed for this, stayed for Star Wars, will be around for others!
Speaking of endings that hit the spot, did you ever make your very short list?
For me my immediate "yup if that's where it ended, I'm good with it" was Halt and Catch Fire, and more recently The Orville (TBC if it was a season or series finale - here's hoping for a season 4, but the season 3 finale was excellent it it didn't happen). Shout outs also to Better Call Saul, Person of Interest and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D which were also satisfying to me.
March 15th is when season 3 starts
Sam and Rebecca was from Sam and Rebecca I believe is from Cheers
Actually not only do teams in the Premier League meet each other during the season there are several cups and tournaments through out the season they can possible meet each other in as well
If A team like Richmond wins the Premier League the most realistic ending would be that bigger clubs would poach their best players during the next transfer window
Richmond’s best player is Jamie. A club could throw a small country’s GDP at him and he still wouldn’t go play anywhere else. Dani’s less of a sure thing but I can’t envision him wanting to go anywhere else either.
@@laurelf.2057 As Richmond gets more successful salaries and the working cost of operations have to go up to be competitive . After taking the massive hit from relegation last season Richmond might not be able to afford not to sell players to keep the club itself going
@@declanArdmore After that brief mention with Nora, the club’s finances never came up again, so it would seem they’re just fine. If they’re promoted, they should be in an even better position. Plus Rebecca is independently loaded, I’m sure she could keep it afloat for awhile. Regardless, I have a hard time believing there’s a reasonable scenario where Richmond’s best players could successfully be poached, especially if Ted’s still the coach. They’re too loyal and emotionally invested to do that.
@@laurelf.2057 It may never be an issue if the show ignores it but in reality it happens all the time Leicester City won the league in 2016 and many of their players were gone in the next transfer window. Rebecca is rich but there are billionaires in this league that sell their best players all the time because they don't use all their own money without the guarantees of a return profit which is just smart business . Jaime I rate equal to a real player like Jack Grealish which would give the club $90 -$110 million alone in today's market
@@declanArdmore I mean, this isn’t real life. The show’s very premise is outlandish and would never happen. Rebecca isn’t like real-life billionaires (at least, post-revenge Rebecca) - she absolutely would use her money to help the club. And again, within the confines of the show it’s implausible for Richmond’s best players, Jamie in particular, to leave no matter how big the paycheck being offered.
6:50 yall are baybays... Sam and Rebecca from Cheers
Yay, Sam made it! (show and here). It made me happy to see it show up today. Glad I found you guys.. fun stuff. And yes, in some cases, Redder is better ;).. goodnight kids
Sam and Rebecca from “Cheers” I think
Personally my favourite TV show ending is Schitt's Creek, so great!
Love your reactions 💗 can't wait for season 3 xx
Wholeheartedly agree! Schitt's Creek had one of the best endings of all time, and definitely ranks on my list! ❤️Jacqui
@@theshamelist you should definitely post a video featuring your Not Sh*t List! I need new shows to watch where I don’t have to actively avoid the ending 😅
One of the best endings for me is Fleabag.
Sam and Rebecca... sitcom: Cheers
Last novel of a comment until season 3! It's a salty one, fair warning lol.
It took me a while to get past my frustration with Nate as well, but we do need to give him some grace here. We forgave Rebecca and Jamie and love them now, despite them having done some heinous things. Obviously Nate will have to do what they did - have the Big Realization then make amends and start heading down the right path - but he should be allowed to. While his father was not physically abusive like Jamie's, nor as almost cartoonishly evil as Rupert, never getting an ounce of his father's affection and constantly being belittled, plus his mom letting all of that slide, is abuse all the same. To say nothing of those months and months of being physically assaulted by Isaac and Colin (at Jamie's behest). We have the benefit of seeing Ted by himself and in conversations with other people. We know why he is the way he is. But Nate doesn't have that advantage. From his perspective, Ted built him up then completely dropped off the face of the earth, in addition to the microaggressions he suffered like Ted laughing at him for suggesting he talk to Isaac, or giving him an indoor whistle, or everyone reminding him that he didn't buy his own suit, etc. Nick Mohammed, the actor who plays him, actually tweeted out a really great rundown of how Nate got to the point he did that I'd recommend checking out.
Obviously no one needs to forgive Nate or like him. I don't like him much myself; even in season 1 I was fairly meh on him. For me, kissing Keeley without her consent and leaking Ted's panic attack are unforgivable, just like Rebecca trying to break up one marriage and another long-term relationship or putting dozens of people out of a job by sabotaging the team, or like Jamie tormenting Nate. But if we don't give Nate the opportunity and leeway to go on a redemption arc like we did Rebecca and Jamie, there's a huge double-standard there, and frankly, I'll eat my hat if he doesn't. That's what this show's entire ethos is about.
Moving on, I really really hate how they dealt with the aftermath of Jamie's confession. Most of all because they somehow managed to make it all about Roy (as they do with Nate's kiss). _Keeley_ was the one Jamie confessed to and Nate kissed, _she_ should be the one who's focused on. Yet we don't get her perspective at all, it's Roy Roy Roy, other than the fact that Keeley waited at least a week to tell him what happened (you've got to wonder why...), and even then she only did because of the charged moment at the photoshoot.
And Roy's reaction? Oof, I hate that the most. He saw first-hand how Jamie was abused, yet he immediately threatens him with severe physical violence, then actually does hit him. I get that it's meant to be comedic, but it's not okay. Nor is the fact that there was a whole subplot in season 1 about Roy getting over Jamie being Keeley's ex-boyfriend, yet a year and a half later he's clearly NOT over it. Instead of giving Jamie even a sliver of the benefit of the doubt like he did Nate, he goes to DEFCON 1 rage machine. So either Keeley did a poor job of explaining that she didn't reciprocate and that Jamie wasn't trying to make a move, or Roy didn't care and planned to punch Jamie's lights out regardless. He has such little faith in his relationship as well. Never mind the Jamie thing, instead of understanding that his girlfriend who is starting a brand-new business can't go on a six-week vacation, let alone on a whim, he jumps straight to "Are we breaking up?"
So - with respect - I greatly disagree with the assessment that Roy is "one of the most stable, mature, functional adults." He's better than some (Nate, for instance), but he continues to have major, MAJOR anger issues, insecurities, lack of communication, immaturities/pettiness (especially when it comes to Jamie), an inability to trust that Keeley is all-in despite her giving zero evidence to the contrary, and so on. He's had a bit of growth, but he's by and large the same person he was in season 1, and when compared with how Jamie especially was this season, that really stands out. I think at the very least he and Keeley need a break. They both need to figure out who they are as individuals, and Keeley needs to spread her wings without worrying about outgrowing Roy or the disconnect between her career taking off and him wanting to settle down.
Honestly, unless I see some major, real growth from Roy, I'll be extremely disappointed if they're endgame. For one, that would be the path you expect. Thus far the show has had them clear various roadblocks with barely any sustained conflict or fallout, so for them to continue stay together or to only briefly break up before getting back together would be the expected thing to do. Personally, I really _really_ hope that they stay broken up and that Keeley either ends the series single or (shipper brain incoming) she and Jamie find their way back to one another now that they're on the same level and in the same life stage. I'm keeping my expectations low, particularly for the latter option which I don't anticipate happening in a million years, but hey, you never know. Yes indeed, I'm one of approximately six people who not only don't like Keeley and Roy together but want her and Jamie to be endgame. Fight me!
/end unpopular opinions😄
Anyway, I've really enjoyed your reactions to this show and look forward to season 3!
ETA: One last thing. As someone who works in journalism, Trent revealing his source and the show making it out like it was no big deal made me SCREAM in horror. You _do not_ do that. You just don't. It's a good thing Trent wants to do something else, because he's never getting a reporting job ever again lol.
Not much to agree with here.
@@nigelus1 I really don't care if you agree with me or not, but thanks for playing.
Me furiously trying to figure out which TL character duo dynamic Jonathan and Laurel are modeling. 🤔😅
The scene where Ted and nat are talking it’s supposed to be kind of a parallel of god and the devil.. the devil being god’s favorite then jealous feeling like he was abandon cast aside even though that’s not what happened making him go down a darker path
🚨🚨🚨🚨Breaking News just heard new season 3 of Ted Lasso will probably be in February 2023. 🚨🚨🚨
I think the reason for Nate's suits being too tight is that he feels suffocated in the position he's in at this point of the show.
I'm rewatching the series and upon second viewing, discovered why the writers chose to have Nate go suddenly and prematurely grey...
He has a pathological fear of growing old, or so he said in episode 2 or 3 of season 1.
Well that could very well be part of it, but he’s also meant to mimic the rise of Jose Mourhino, to a degree. And he dresses all in black and is grey.
@@JeffKelly03
I'm just going by the show's propensity for subtle, Easter egg callbacks. I could be wrong, but it fits with the general character development pattern the show writers seem to like... Karma works its way to everyone, for good and ill, all that jazz.
A Mourinho reference is certainly possible, however.
Yeah that’s a thing !
48:45 that should been "a good Shame List" 😉
"cheers". rebecca and sam.
Did you spot the Good Will Hunting reference?
BTW, here's a link to a comedic character Nick Mohammed (Nate the Great) does named Mr. Swallow. Worth the time! th-cam.com/video/9PBpueMwm2s/w-d-xo.html
Adding lyrics to the Jurassic Part theme: th-cam.com/video/hxv3Av7-d6Q/w-d-xo.html
as a proud northern man, Jacqui is fit....
they'll have at least 2 matchs against Nate, but they can have up to 4
Exactly 2 Premier League and possibly two cup draws.
Where is the Ted Lasso Season 3 Shame List reaction you promised us? I can't find it?
Re Sam and Rebecca I have to quote Community, which I think you're familiar with? "WE GET IT! YOU'RE YOUNG!" stop being all young at me, lol. It was a Cheers reference, which is exactly what that Community quote was also about. I'm going to seriously miss this. This quieted my need to go door-to-door knocking and saying, "Have you heard about our Lord and Savior, Ted Lasso?" It was so fun watching Sam discover and being amazed and delighted, and all Jacqui's fucking amazing observations, like LAWFUL COOL. I love how much they developed each of the characters and I can't wait to see more of that. I love how Jacqui (and I) both squirm in horrible discomfort at Nate's nasty reveal at the end and Sam is just like, "Wheeeeeeee!" like he is enjoying this fucking drop on the rollercoaster, lol. Also, I am very curious about the potential redemption of Nate. Because I feel like they develop him as a narcissist, no confidence inside to prop up their fragile ego, which makes me feel like IN REALITY, he would not be redeemable, but this is Ted Lasso, so . . . but at the same time, I feel like it would be VERY hard to do without seeming cheap, you know? Same with Rupert. I feel like Ted Lasso pushes to show that all people are human, but some people don't want to get better, and that's important.
Why do Rebecca and Jamie get redemption arcs and their transgressions forgiven and rightfully explained as born from long-term abuse, but that train stops right before Nate? Even without the ugly optics (the white characters get redemption but the character of color does not), it's not in line with the show. One of the show's core messages is that hurt people hurt people and deserve second chances. That abuse has deep and long-lasting effects that inform people's actions. That we should "be curious, not judgmental." We've seen plenty of goodness from Nate, we know exactly why he is the way he is, and I think it's been made abundantly clear that Rupert and James Tartt are the only characters who are actually past saving.
To write Nate off when Rebecca and Jamie were not written off is a severe double-standard, and if Nate doesn't get set on the same path they did, I'll eat my hat.
@@laurelf.2057 What are you even arguing over? I'm not passing a judgement on a human being, I'm simply wondering how the show intends to handle a character arc. I've seen psychologists (here on TH-cam if you want to look for them) who watched the show say that to them, Nate read as a narcissist---and it's something they caught before the show revealed the negative aspects to his character. I'm curious as to whether that is true and intentional and how the show will handle it, because Ted Lasso OBVIOUSLY did the research and worked hard at portraying mental health issues accurately. Which is why I think there's a CHANCE they redeem Nate, but maybe not, and also that they probably won't attempt to redeem Rupert. But a lot of this depends on whether Ted Lasso INTENDS Nate to be read as a narcissist. Because if they were AIMING for that, I would also expect them to be aware that generally narcissists don't change, so they'd have to work hard to make a redemption feel realistic. The writers are generally very good and there's a lot of nuance, so I'm looking forward to seeing how they write this in a way I don't expect.
@@aru7233 I’d have thought it clear what I’m objecting to. You’re far from the first person to espouse such views, and it’s quite tiresome. There’s no valid reason to give Rebecca and Jamie - who both did some truly awful shit in season 1 - the grace and patience to turn the ship around yet Nate doesn’t get the same consideration, despite being an abuse victim himself and having plenty of moments that show he’s a good person at his core jut like Rebecca and Jamie are.
And again: To not give Nate such an arc would be the antithesis of what this show is about. There is zero chance it won’t set him back on the right path.
Finallyyyyy I’ll be back at the end
Alrighty I’m back
I just want to say thank you to you both! Thank you for your energy and insightfulness throughout this show. I loved learning from y’all. And I will absolutely continue supporting along the way! I look forward to the future of y’all’s channel!