NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP!!! | TED LASSO Episodes 2x09 & 2x10 Reaction and Commentary

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  • @gregfeasel5874
    @gregfeasel5874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Not sure if you're aware of this, but "Beard After Hours" is a parody/spoof/tribute of the Martin Scorsese film "After Hours". It follows the same plot -- after a long stressful day, a man goes on a wild night out. In the first season, Ted asks everybody what their favorite Scorsese film was. So it's a bit of a call back to a previous scene. I enjoyed the Beard episode. They don't give away too much about Coach Beard. We don't even know his real name, and it's a great break from the intense drama which happened the episode before.

    • @nigelus1
      @nigelus1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      To go even deeper, After Hours was a retelling of James Joyce's Ulysses which is a retelling of Homer's Odyssey myth.
      Odysseus must descend into Hades and go through trials to find his way back to his love. Joyce's Ulysses retelling is a 700 page "stream of consciousness" novel of one day in Dublin and Scorsese's After Hours takes place in NYC over one night. All of Odysseus' trials have parallels with the scenes of the film (and thus, the Beardisode).
      I love that the cinematography is so different in the Beardisode. From the dark alleys to the surreal club, the woman's apartment and finally the glare of the soccer stadium. None of this is at all like the style of the rest of the show.
      Another great reaction, you two.

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thank you for this tidbit! After Hours had been added to my list of art house films to watch!! - Sam

    • @catherinethurmond4776
      @catherinethurmond4776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haven't seen After Hours but I kinda want to now.

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly right 😊

  • @DavidWilliams-nm5jv
    @DavidWilliams-nm5jv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The sports commentator who says "I hate Coach Beard" is Thierry Henry - an actual LEGEND of soccer. He's considered by many to be one of the best to ever play.
    One thing about the shows "ups and downs" (back and forth between comedy and drama), it's worth noting that one of the creators is Bill Lawrence, who also created Scrubs - a show that also did a great job being both a laugh out loud comedy as well as a heart tearing drama.

    • @markriley9943
      @markriley9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Brendan Hunt is a massive Arsenal fan where Thierry Henry was at his peak

    • @panamafloyd1469
      @panamafloyd1469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I didn't know they served food here!"
      TH: " For me, they do."
      Another "..yeah, someone in the writers' room actually likes soccer.." moment. :D

  • @gamblebeardsley516
    @gamblebeardsley516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Brendan Hunt is a massive Arsenal fan and Thierry Henry is the greatest Arsenal player of all time. Brendan writing him into the script was definitely abusing his power as a writer in the best way possible. As a lifelong Arsenal fan, if I was writing a show like this, I would have done the exact same lol.

  • @tsefcik
    @tsefcik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hannah has been telling in interviews lately that the day they shot the funeral, her own father was having emergency open heart surgery. So much of that emotion from Rebecca is Hannah being present in the moment.

  • @chrishornbostel9831
    @chrishornbostel9831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    One fun thing about the Beardisode -- it's almost entirely an homage (with pieces pulled whole cloth) to a little-seen Martin Scorcese art-house dark comedy called After Hours that came out in 1985. It's an amazing, surreal, discomfiting film that's absolutely worth a watch to see Marty take a shot at doing a low-budget Jim Jarmusch style art film.

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How fascinating! Thank you for this little tidbit - I'm adding this movie to my Art-house budgeted list. - Sam

  • @randofrak
    @randofrak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's so fucked up that this show can make you cry to a fucking Rick Roll

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amazing isn't it? - Sam

  • @Bekka_Noyb
    @Bekka_Noyb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I also call her Sassy Smurf whenever I see her character! ♥
    ♥ the editing in the scenes where Ted & Rebecca were talking about finding their fathers

  • @mjhart68
    @mjhart68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jacqui: Blink...Blink...Blink
    Me: Yup...Yeah...Uh-huh

  • @FiresCollide
    @FiresCollide 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rickroll scene is also a callback to Doctor Sharon when she called Ted: "I just wanted to tell you how I'm feeling."

  • @keithanderson1980
    @keithanderson1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ted talking about his dad, and not telling him how he felt more always breaks me.

  • @stpnwlf9
    @stpnwlf9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ted dressing is a season 1 callback to when he mentioned that getting dressed shouldn't take any longer than 'Easy Lover.' Also, when Rebecca was breaking up with John Wingsnight, she told him she needed to find somebody wonderful even knowing they could hurt her.

  • @rolandcooke
    @rolandcooke ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18:20 - [your] description of "filler episode" isn't quite accurate for Carol Of The Bells / After Hours. Apple was so pleased by the reception to Season 1 that they asked for another two episodes in Season 2. Unfortunately the Writing Room had already fully mapped-out Season 2, so the two additional episodes had to be stand-alone from necessity.
    Season 2 might have looked a little different with a bit more notice!

  • @michellecluff9631
    @michellecluff9631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My eye is constantly being drawn to that glorious coffee mug, which is both beautiful and absurdly capacious.

  • @zbennalley
    @zbennalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The blinks 👀👀👀👀👀

  • @michellecluff9631
    @michellecluff9631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Colin looks super Welsh at that funeral. 🤣

  • @bailann
    @bailann ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think I'd heard/read a really good explanation for why Rebecca hit the pause button with Sam but yours was excellent. Thank you!

  • @salamandertoast
    @salamandertoast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the symbolism of the blue moon. Not only does it signify strange occurrences, but Blue Moon is the fan anthem of Man City; you can hear them singing it in the crowd during the game in the previous episode. The blue moon following him in the sky throughout the episode symbolizes the Man City loss still haunting Beard throughout the whole night no matter how he tries to take his mind off it. I also liked the use of the song in the soundtrack-they played the more upbeat doo-wop version over the montage of Richmond getting thrashed by Man City, and then during this episode they played a slower ballad version while Beard was getting thrashed by Jamie's dad and his friends.

  • @luis-yx6jz
    @luis-yx6jz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm going to have surgery today and I'm very anxious, this video helped me relax a little

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We hope your surgery went well Luis! We're always happy to entertain and relax you! - Sam

    • @luis-yx6jz
      @luis-yx6jz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@theshamelist the surgery was perfect. thank you!

  • @SilentBob731
    @SilentBob731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:44 I am utterly intrigued by this little aside, yet I will comment no further on the subject matter, regardless of how completely enchanting I may (or may not) find certain hosts of this channel (who may or may not have been, as certain prophets might say, "Kissed By Fire").
    Yup, that was subtle... 😉😊

  • @Rdex2288
    @Rdex2288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you are looking for something to watch next, I recommend The Legend of Vox Machina. Also a series that subverts a lot of tropes due to how it was created

    • @cartagia6441
      @cartagia6441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would also throw Netflix’s Sandman out there as well.

  • @TheSyncos
    @TheSyncos 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Jacqui was blinking morse code there at the end... I wonder what she could possibly be trying to warn us about 😏

  • @SilentBob731
    @SilentBob731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Beard After Hours" is a brilliant piece of cinema unto itself, in the midst of one of the greatest shows of all-time.
    Pretty gutsy to take a whole new direction for an entire episode this deep into a narrative.
    Yet another reason to love Ted Lasso. 👍❤

  • @levindeed
    @levindeed หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:38 I just have to comment: even if you have been to the stadium of your home team, chances of you actually stepping onto the pitch are almost non-existent.
    If you recall, in the very first episode, Nate tells Ted and Beard to step away even though they are the actual coaches. Main reason of course is it's very high maintenance thing, with real grass and all that, so unless there's some open doors event with activities on the pitch like once or twice a year, the only people that can actually access it are the players, the referees and those who actually maintain it. Even for training teams usually use additional training areas, not the stadium pitch.
    I remember when I went to Bayern stadium in Munich, there was a press event introducing a football game (i think it was PES 2019 or something like that, but they had a contract with Bayern, so the presentation was there as well), and as a part of stadium tour they allowed us to enter the central circle of the pitch for about 10 seconds. The guides responsible for the tour were beyond happy, they told us that in the 3 years they were working as the stadium guides, neither them, nor any of their groups were allowed to do that before that. Usually even on tours you can only enter the tech area at the side of the pitch, where the coaches and substitute players watch the matches. So yeah, for these boys this is actually THE dream.

  • @SilentBob731
    @SilentBob731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:59 This scene is awesome, and so reminiscent of the "Spaced" episode "Epiphanies".
    Truly Classic. 🤘

  • @laurelf.2057
    @laurelf.2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To get the short bit out of the way: What an emotional, wild ride of an episode! As someone who's not a fan of Sambecca, I can't say I was disappointed they broke up, but I like that it was so amicable, that Rebecca acknowledged her feelings about it, and Toheeb Jimoh's abs (what? I'm only human). And that scene with Ted and Rebecca's stories intercut with one another? Oof. I agree on Isaac and the other boys as well, they looked fly as hell in their suits! Now for the longer stuff, which as always, feel free to skim or skip!
    On the Jamie of it all (you know I had to comment ...), a few things.
    One, it originally came out of left field for me, too, primarily because I burned through the show so quickly and at the time was Team Roy so I wasn't paying much attention to Jamie in the background. But on subsequent watches, I noticed that while not as blatant as in season 1, there are many indications in season 2 as well of Jamie holding a torch for Keeley. For example: whenever he greets people in a room, he always greets her separately; episode 2, he followed her for an hour to ask her for help because she's the one he feels safest with; episode 3 he instantly perks up and gives her a Look when she comes into the locker room, then a Look again when she leaves; episode 4 he's quite soft with her; episode 6 he watches her leave Ted's office; episode 7 he watches her leave the boot room; and of course, this episode eyes her up the whole time and his smile quickly fades when she expands her "nice suit!" to everyone instead of just him. So it's definitely been telegraphed, just very subtly.
    Two, I don't think the confession should be taken the same way as such things normally are. It wasn't Jamie swooping in, it was merely a further show of his growth. No way no how season 1 Jamie would have put himself out there like that, expressing his feelings despite knowing he would be rejected. Here, that's exactly what he did, and he didn't expect or wait for an answer either - he just said his piece and left. He acknowledged that it was unfair, and apologized, but also it was brought on by the weirdness of the funeral. Since we give grace to the other characters who acted weirdly (Roy, for instance), I think we should give Jamie the same grace. Now, is part of Jamie hoping Keeley might have a change of heart? Probably. But that was neither his intention nor his expectation.
    Three, he didn't say he came back _for_ Keeley (in addition to getting away from his dad), he said he came back _because_ of her, which is a small but crucial distinction. After all, if it weren't for Keeley telling him to talk to Ted, he may not have had the courage to do so, meaning he wouldn't have gotten back onto the team, and god knows where he'd be if that hadn't happened. If you remember, too, he didn't seek her out to ask about Richmond, he simply wanted to talk through his crisis. That talk _led_ to asking back onto the team, but it didn't start out that way.
    Four, up until the confession, at no point did Jamie act inappropriately towards her. He didn't make a move or trash Roy or reference their relationship or even pull her aside to speak privately. He confined his feelings to looks alone, so I think it's a safe assumption that if the funeral hadn't spurred him to confess, he may well not have done so at all. If his goal was to get her back, he did a very poor job of executing it. Even his confession was very respectful. He recognized that she's in a relationship, he stated that he knew it wasn't fair, he thanked her for seeing in him what no one else did, he expressed his feelings succinctly, then he left the ball in her court to do with what she wants. In fact, Roy phrased his confession quite similarly, which I doubt was an accident by the writers.
    Five, I think this episode definitely showed that Keeley is not without some latent feelings/attraction of her own. She checked him out when he came up to her in the suit, she looked past Roy to him in the pews unprompted, and she was so stunned at his confession that Roy startled the bejeesus out of her. If she felt nothing for him anymore, I don't think those beats would have been added in. Plus, as Jamie pointed out, he's become exactly the man she always wanted him to be. She broke up with him because he wasn't - but now he is. Obviously that isn't to say she necessarily feels the same or more for him than she does for Roy. But I think it _does_ mean his confession wasn't quite so cut-and-dry for her as she (or the audience) probably thought.
    Your opinions are your own, of course! I just thought I'd present my devil's advocate position as some food for thought :)

    • @laurelf.2057
      @laurelf.2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forgot Beard After Hours! I don't enjoy the episode very much so don't have much to comment on. I love the pub guys though, and it was ... an ambitious episode, shall we say!

  • @baron7755
    @baron7755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never Gonna Give You Up is an amazing song, I love in unashamedly

  • @inbadcompany100
    @inbadcompany100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you enjoyed the Beardisode, I know it split the audience (and was maybe a bit jarring when watching week to week if you were expecting some of the emotional fallout from the previous epsode), but I thought it was really well done. I hadn't watched After Hours before, so grateful for Ted Lasso for making me watch that too.
    Completely agree that Phil Dunster deserves more recognition for his acting, he's hilarious, but then also gave that performace in ep 8, which broke my heart. I also think the 'love' confession is more shocking after Jamie and Roy seem to have reached a new understanding between them. Just awkward all round.

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So ready for the next episodes!!! - Sam

  • @GoVandals0605
    @GoVandals0605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    J -- I adore you!! This was a crack up!!

  • @michellecluff9631
    @michellecluff9631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Harriet Walter 🙇‍♀️

  • @TerryYelmene
    @TerryYelmene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sam's coaster ride; The Beardisode!
    - A delusional crisis of Va Va Voom!
    - Belly up to the bar to... with his trusty Stoges to... ponder the fragility of life... oh ya, Beard has some thoughts!
    - So many beers to the tip of your cap to the string pullers.
    - To the club.. and feel free to strut.
    - The Oxford Alums sting into the acid trip room.
    - Damn, ripped pants - so TAKE THEM OFF and fall into a dumpster!
    - The demeaning head play-by-play is finally getting to Beard.
    - A most surprising return of Beards wallet.
    - Re-connecting with the Stoges from praying in a church. to playing on the pitch. and DANCE! (with SHINNY Pants)
    This was the TL fever dream filler episode.
    Next, I fully appreciated the wonderful comments and love the Shame Listers had for Episode 10 - 'No Weddings and a Funeral.'

  • @andrewdunn8778
    @andrewdunn8778 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I love Sam and Rebecca but I will say that between the age and the power dynamic, I really don't think they should be together. 21 is just so young. Your brain's not through cooking until you're 25. If they were 30 and 50 it'd be one thing, but damn 21 is so, so young.

  • @BT-fd2ne
    @BT-fd2ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
    The mother is admitting she doesn't have the strength to carry hate.

  • @OlafurNeal
    @OlafurNeal ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not only that they had massive trauma surrounding their dads. It happened on the same day September 13, 1991, and because of the time difference between Kansas and England probably at the exact same time.

  • @rolandcooke
    @rolandcooke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:45 - that's not (just) a Full Moon...it's blue moon, with all the mystery that image portents. But it's ALSO one of the symbols for Manchester City who are the Sky Blues, especially via the song of the same name: th-cam.com/video/BZpqSajwae8/w-d-xo.html

  • @balansboy
    @balansboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2x10 is my favorite episode. So good. Laugh and cry in the same breath

  • @selenityshiroi1
    @selenityshiroi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I normally love character focused episodes, but I really didn't enjoy Beard After Hours. I feel like even though the episode was focused on him we didn't really learn much about him. And because the events were so wild it felt a bit out of touch when the rest of the series is pretty grounded. But I did enjoy the interactions between him and the Richmond boys. Episode 10 really hits hard, though. I kind of coasted through it the first time I watched it but the second time was about four months after my father passed away and I sobbed like a child for obvious reasons. The back and forth between Ted and Rebecca's stories was a pretty masterful way of telling the tales, their pain and relationships with their fathers very different but both having that anger and betrayal on top of the grief. It's a bit of a stealth episode, because you might not pay as much attention to the emotions in it the first time, because the humour doesn't draw you in (except, of course, Sassy and her excellent conversation with Rupert). But on a rewatch of the series, knowing the things from this episode, several things about Ted become so much clearer and makes it even more devestating when you get back to this place.

  • @Dubnoreix
    @Dubnoreix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love it when you react in unison.

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every once in a while, we manage to get on the same wave length. It's all that friendship and junk. - Sam

  • @lakeit
    @lakeit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Least of my favs of the season.. some good moments.. but my lower tier.

  • @gabrielmauller8137
    @gabrielmauller8137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your reactions today, was waiting for this episode.

  • @gi8228
    @gi8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3 people sais “I love you” to keeley and she only said “I love you too” to one of them

  • @baron7755
    @baron7755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nate, Roy, and Jaime all love Keelie

    • @michellecluff9631
      @michellecluff9631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Nate loves Keeley as a friend, but he *thinks* he LOVES Keeley because Roy and Jamie love Keeley. Though I would add that I am pretty sure Jamie loves Keeley largely because Jamie loves his mom. 😒

  • @gaborkiss650
    @gaborkiss650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I so waited for this, episode 10 is so unbelievably good.
    Episode 9, not a huge fan but will get through it to get the reward. :)

  • @woodchucknation
    @woodchucknation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting to get to this episode since I started watching you two. I love the Beard episode, my wife didn’t.

  • @Ash-re2fe
    @Ash-re2fe ปีที่แล้ว

    How you don’t have 100,000 subs, I don’t know

  • @wozzablog
    @wozzablog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thierry Henry, former Arsenal player did a series of adverts for Renault cars, VaVa Voom was the tag line
    th-cam.com/video/YrShrLl38Qs/w-d-xo.html

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glorious!! Thank you for this. - Sam

    • @wozzablog
      @wozzablog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theshamelist ofcourse I can't watch it now without the reflexive urge to yell SHUT UP, THIERRY HENRY.

  • @benllewellyn297
    @benllewellyn297 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate, hate, hate the term "filler episode". At least this time, they're acknowledging that this one adds some depth.

    • @korganrocks3995
      @korganrocks3995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In general or in regards to Ted Lasso? I've certainly seen plenty of episodes of various tv shows that deserve the term!

    • @benllewellyn297
      @benllewellyn297 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@korganrocks3995 in general. A team of writers, composers and musicians, set designers, actors, directors, etc., etc., etc., put a story together that is about character development, relationships, and a slice of life to show the world in which they live in a little more detail and perspective. Just because it’s not about THE PLOT, it gets denigrated as filler. It’s seriously disrespectful to the artists who built it for you.

    • @korganrocks3995
      @korganrocks3995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benllewellyn297 I agree that there's a difference between an episode that doesn't further the main plot and an episode that wasted my time. When watching or reading something where you're dying to find out what happens next you can get frustrated with an episode that focuses more on character development or is literally just one long flashback, but on rewatch you will probably appreciate it a lot more. A true filler episode is one that is both frustrating and lacks rewatch value.

  • @catherinethurmond4776
    @catherinethurmond4776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weirdly I'm the only one that loved the Beard episode like both my grandma and dad hated it. As for The funeral episode the only thing I don't like is them cutting back and forth between Ted and Rebecca I get why they did but I hate not being able to fully submerge in their scenes. Lastly I love your added sound effect to your blinks like SOS Sam Omitted Spoilers💗💜💙

  • @davidsavage6910
    @davidsavage6910 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    M*A*S*H*

  • @declanArdmore
    @declanArdmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you enjoyed the secret Beard files I sent you

    • @theshamelist
      @theshamelist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did, thank you! But shhhhh.don't tell anybody else. - Sam

  • @ravenclaw1848
    @ravenclaw1848 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excuse you my mothers last name is Payne😤

  • @lakeit
    @lakeit ปีที่แล้ว

    Old men, Sam??