The Kray's Grave - Chingford Cemetery
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Thank you for watching. Ronald "Ronnie" Kray (24 October 1933 - 17 March 1995) and Reginald "Reggie" Kray (24 October 1933 - 1 October 2000), identical twin brothers, were the foremost perpetrators of organised crime in the East End of London, England from the late 1950s to 1967. With their gang, known as the Firm, the Krays were involved in murder, armed robbery, arson, protection rackets and assaults.
In the 1960s, as West End nightclub owners, the Kray twins mixed with politicians and prominent entertainers such as Diana Dors, Frank Sinatra and Judy Garland. They became celebrities themselves, were photographed by David Bailey and interviewed on television.
The Krays were arrested on 8 May 1968 and convicted in 1969 as a result of the efforts of detectives led by Detective Superintendent Leonard "Nipper" Read. Each was sentenced to life imprisonment. Ronnie was committed to Broadmoor Hospital in 1979 and remained there until his death on 17 March 1995 from a heart attack; Reggie was released from prison on compassionate grounds in August 2000, five weeks before he died of bladder cancer.
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Some of the information used in this video is citied from Wikipedia
Just goes to prove, no matter how big you are, how powerful you are, how much money you have......this is your ultimate destiny
True
Ha Ha...Not to bright are ya if You needed proof to realise that....??😲😩
That's because nobody is bigger than God.
@@TheRealist2024 God is simply a made up story, one that people like yourself fource onto us to make us believe - Look at the world we currently live in??...How you can still believe a 3000 year old book is beyond me based on events over the past 100 years alone...However this is your belief and i respect that but for me Religion is the route of all evil and most Wars and fights in most countrys, as for the Krays, in this life you either take what you want or get left behind and behave like sheep...I respected the Krays and still do, again this is my opinion which we are all allowed to have ✌
Yep, and everyone knows that too.. so my question is; what is the point on that your comment? Because I don't get it..🤔?!?
I've watched almost all of your videos but have only just seen this one and it is so special to me. My first husband is buried here just along that road that runs from the Krays graves to the gate. He was only 32 when he died. I go there when I can as I'm 300 miles away. Lovely peaceful place. Thank you for this one.
I looked after a lady who stood up to the Krays, she was landlady of a pub on the Isle of Dogs, she stood 4'10" at the most, they came in to offer protection, she kicked them out, her kids had to be escorted to/from school by the police. I really admired her she never backed down from them x
As usual, a very respectable short film from a presenter who has a genuine interest in this subject without being over-dramatic or ghoulish.
Excellent work!
Cheers Alan….. 🙏
It looks allot better than I remember. As a kid in the 80's my bedroom window looked directly over this place and it scared the essence out of me, it used to be overgrown with shrubs and wonky headstones covered in ivy (scarier in fog). I used to close my eyes while drawing the curtains before dusk just so I wouldn't accidentally see a ghoul or ghost. Pub chucking out time was the worst, people would use it as a shortcut and because they'd had a skinful they would be noisy, and to the imagination of a kid laying in bed those noises were monsters.
My Mum briefly lived in a cottage up there somewhere. They used to go over the wall and play in the churchyard/cemetery. Would have been around 1920/25
It's kind of shocking how normal Charlie, Reggie and Ronnie's graves are. Even their Mum's grave is normal. And it's widely known that the Kray boys ADORED their Mother. Frances's grave is more impressive, that poor girl went through so much. I hope her spirit is at peace now.
France's grave stone was taken off and cleaned about five years ago, prior to that it was in a bad state, it must of cost a fortune, I wonder who paid for that. The stone itself must of run into thousands and that was a lot of money back in the sixties
@@jamesmcbride6304 maybe a family member paid for it I'm sure there's probably relatives still alive 🤔
@@kirstyevans5482 Her niece is still alive 😀
@@rosierennie5867 that's how then, I was so interested in the krays so have read alot and watched films and documentories about them and all the crimes we know about
As a little girl on occasions a man would pull up on my road all suited up in a Jaguar car ask me to keep an eye on it whilst he popped off down the road which I would do on his return on finding me still sat on the wall he would give me a pound note this became a regular occurrence over a period of time the man would call me ‘Little Blondie’ I had very long blonde hair that I could sit on
my parents by this time were thinking who is this man every time I came into the house with a pound note a lot of money to a little kid back in the early 80s...so the next time my parents were waiting on his arrival on seeing my parents the man walks over to them introduces himself “Is this your little girl....your bringing her up lovely hope you don’t mind but she keeps an eye on my car I give her £1 for the trouble..make sure you look after her my name is Charlie Kray pleased to meet you” my parents faces were a picture....! with that Charlie goes off , my mum pulls me into the house telling me he is a gangster....to which me being little I say” no he’s not he’s my friend Charlie ‘....now as an adult knowing the Kray history - Me & my parents still laugh about my friend Charlie whose car I would keep an eye on...I look on it fondly as Charlie Kray came across as charming & as a gentleman always very nice to me
Thanks for sharing that Shelley, that’s a great story to hear… it’s so bizzare who’s path we cross with sometimes in life…. 🙏
I met Charlie in the 90`s when I was at work. I also found him to be a real gentlemen.
That is such a great story. Thanks for sharing it with us.
"No he's not. He's my friend Charlie" out of the mouths of babes hey 😂😍 That was a cute story
when I was 2 yrs my parents used to visit their grandparents at Butlins Clacton on holiday ,they used to walk around the camp with me in tow ,one day a big burley màn swept me up ,and told my father to look after the gorgeous little girl ,my father then went on to tell me it was one of the kray twins, they were down their on holiday with their mum lol ,many yrs ago ,the camp has long gone ,alot of years later when I was in my twenties and worked in a care home for elderly, a much older gentleman visitor took a interest in me and kept asking me out to dinner ,apparently he had his own microlight company and lived in a huge house with his mother ,he turned out to be a very good friend of the krays and it was said the money he had was from the dodgy dealings with the krays ,hence to say ,I gave him a wide berth lol ,seems my life intertwined with them unintentionally ,I was a law abiding citizen ha ha !!
Years ago when I was a kid, I went to Chingford Cemetery, as my Auntie died when she was just 4yrs old, and we went to put flowers down. I remember my Nan pointing out Violet and Francis' graves, was exactly how I remember them when you just showed them. Years later, I managed a charity shop, where one of the old ladies who volunteered used to tell me about how the Krays always treated the women likes Queens, and they never had to touch their purse when out with them, she went out with them a lot. The volunteer used to go to a gardening club.......we all reckoned she was digging a tunnel up the road to Broadmoor..........lol xx
But surely if you respect women this much it can’t be ok to murder their sons can it ?
Yes she's buried there .
Not France's. But not all women are queens.
Our beautiful baby girl is buried in this cemetery 🌈💔. We often drive by the krays graves.
How sad 🥺
So very sorry for your loss!
@@dannymcmince Thank you so much.🙏
My great grandmother is also buried in the same cemetery. She died in 1934, sadly she was buried in a paupers grave.
That's sad,,, can you put a stone up for your great grandmother?.
Sorry to hear that Sarah.
Can you not get a little plaque for Her?
@@msjujuz266 Can you not get one yourself.
And here are two criminals who have headstones🤬
It's possible that Francis had such a large headstone and surround, simply because years ago it was allowed. Nowadays most cemetarys/churchyards prefer the more simpler style. It varies from place to place. Thank you for this video Paul, x
In my area, the majority of headstones look like rows of dominos. If one falls over................
Gary Charles Kray was Reggie and Ronnie's Nephew (Charlie's Son), he died of cancer. Just found you on You Tube, love your videos, didn't realise you are from Pompey, just over the harbour from me.
Thank you 🙏
Thank you, I've just come across your channel and it's very informative. Well put together and respectful.
Randomly found your channel, probably due to watching a lot of US based videos like LamontatLarge, ScottonTape and HollywoodGraves, - keep up the good work, so many UK stories to tell!
Thank you Mark, yes they all have great channels.
My best friend was the family vicar in the 1960s. He also has passed now with prostate cancer. Thanks for the video.
Many years ago l working as a Housing Benefit officer in Bristol, and was lucky enough to work along side a lady - who was very good at her job, but also had wonderfull, vivid memories of growing up in London as a child. Her parents had a public house in the East End at the same time as Reg and Ron had their 'buisnesses' etc. Her father died leaving her mother running the pub. Reg and Ron came into the pub to offer sympathies and asked her if ever she needed any kind of 'help' or the like just to let them know. Her mother was very gracious and excepted their sympathies, and declined there offer, which they in turn excepted. My work colleague at the time remembers thinking they were old fashioned gentlemen, with kind manners and left the pub graciously and didn't return again.
So, there we go...and also l now am a post lady in Bristol and and like chat with my customers. A guy was a professional photographer.. freelance and for the big nationals. He taken alot of celebrities including the last ever photo of Reggie Kray when he had been released from prison, then from hospital and taken to a hotel in Norwich. And l politely asked the chap for a copy, which l have ... In a frame... On the lounge wall. So, yes being a chatty, friendly postie has its benefits. ☺️
I have quite a few relatives including my father buried at the Chingford cemetery! I live local to it and pass the Krays grave often. Very interesting to see your channel and have now watched a few of your visits 👍🏻
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Pop down to Chingford from north herts about two or three times a year Paul, always pop in and put some flowers on Francis grave, her story from start to end really touched me, it was really heartbreaking especially for her mother Elsie, she tried so hard to get her daughters remains exhumed and re entered in the family plot, but they wouldn't have it. Reg pulled every trick in the book, and the Authorities gave in and he had his way, I think they were worried he was going to kick off in a big way.
Frances' story also really touched me; she must have been so confused at such a young age.
I bet if Frances could choose where to be buried it wouldn't be next to the Krays knowing how she was treated, she also wanted to revert back to her maiden name. Apparently she was buried in her wedding dress as Reggie demanded, however her mother had the undertaker put a slip on her so less of her body was in contact with the hated dress.
I personally think she adored him but just couldn’t cope with him ! Love and hate are very close 😢
hi thank you for all the vlogs you have done i am 74 years old so i remember all the stars of the day thank and it is good to see them rest in peace
Just come across your channel.. I think you do a great job and I find the celebrity graves and the informed commentary you give, very interesting as I’m sure many others do… well done… Steve 👍
Thank you Paul for your interesting information. Remember about the Krays from years ago x ❤️
We have 4 family graves in Chingford cemetery. I often wonder how did the Krays managed to get buried there as none apart from Charlie lived in the borough they all lived in Bethnal Green.
I remember one of the twins funeral when they were driven down Bethnal Green road they whole area came to a standstill we had a shop in Bethnal Green road we were a few shops away from the Marquis of Cornwallis pub, I remember Mad Frankie Frazer opening our shop door and saying "Hello" I nearly passed out with shock they were having a wake in the pub.
Yes they were gangsters, but I remember talking to a elderly lady who lived in Vallance road during the 60's she said she always felt safe with the "boys" about. (1995).
Thank you for these "cemetery crawls" I really enjoyed your stories behind each stop. The Krays was my favourite.
It’s been my pleasure thank you for watching. 🙏
Krays were saints compared to criminals we have today in Ireland
Thanks for Your Segment on the Kraus. They had a rivalry with with the Richardson Brothers the West End. They both did the same stand over business,Except Ronnie would sometime bring his Samurai sword on a Collecting round or the occasional Blagg. Tough boys from a tough time,a photo of their grandfather would show that. Cheers.🇬🇧🍺🥧 p.s I meant the Krays! Dooh
@@peterclohessy9425 don't talk nonsense little boy silly little div kid
Mine to
Just found this channel from limerick city Ireland rest in peace krays family
I enjoy all your videos 👍 I'm sure the Krays are in a warmer place now !
Just come back from a short break in London after watching your video had to go and visit the kray family’s grave thanks again for making the video really enjoyable 😀
Fascinating, thanks 🙏 again Paul 👍
Well done bud, very well put together with the added news stories. Look forward to watching more from you..
Much appreciated! Thank you so much....
I enjoyed watching legend, it was a good story and unusual that Tom hardy played both the krays, and did a wonderful job
Same here I think Tom Hardy done an amazing job. Thank you for watching
another good video - the krays certainly were a couple of dangerous lads back in the day thats for sure..
I was visiting the krays graves, when we was leaving, the funeral of the 8 octuplets babies were being laid to rest. 8 adults each held a tiny white coffin, was heartbreaking to see.
They were the last of the prisoners in the Tower of London, when they went awol from the army, just found you, great videos
I saw Charlie Kray years ago in Croydon just stood on a corner. It was a bit blowey that day and he must have had the biggest comb over I have ever seen. The wind unravelled it from his head and it was flapping about like a windsock in a gale.
Hahahaha...... Would have paid top dollar to see that one.
Hi, I watched your blog on the kray family graves, can I please say that your presenting was concise and fair, I knew the Kray family in fact Gary was a particular friend, we used to have such great times down at the caravan in Steeple Bay, gary was a shy but friendly boy, The grandmother fussed around her boys yet never seemed to realise what their agenda was, I once found a solid gold Dunhill lighter with the initials RK on them, I took it to Ron's caravan, Albert Donohue took it from me,and went into Ron's caravan, Ron appeared and gave me £10.00 in that day a fortune, he just said well done son,as a friend of Gary I expect you to look out for us all....he then went in, I spoke to both Ron and Reg many times both at home in Bethnal Green and down in Steeple Bay, they were softly spoken,very polite and no matter what else they did in their career they treated ordinary folk with respect. Garry died aged 44 years old I miss him every time I see a pic of him between Reg and Francis at the wedding, it's just how i remember him....thank you sir for your presentation i look forward to viewing,many more....I thank you also from the Kray Family who would have appreciated your respect
Oh wow, amazing words thank you, I appreciate both your comment and your appreciation to what I did. I always make sure that I endeavour to give a fair point when making my short films. I’m never there to judge and will try to state facts as best as I can…. Thank you once again 🙏🙏
That is amazing.
I used to live in East London and a taxi driver who I used had met them. Paul thanks for this.
Was outside the cemetery for both funerals,Ronnie's was absolutely packed solid.
Yes Dave Courtney was security
no accounting for taste is there
excellent...no idea they are all buried together in the same cemetery...well done keep up the good work....very interesting video.
Great video,really enjoying going through your playlist as I only discovered you yesterday. What a great concept,well done
Thank you, glad you’re enjoying them
I absolutely love this channel, I must have watch every video. Best TH-cam channel, best rabbit hole
Cheers mate 🙌🙌
thanx for your videos, they're absolutely awesome
keep up the good work
Thanks for showing us this mate
Just shows you despite ruling the east end in the 60s, ultimately everyone ends up the wrong side of the dirt
You do if you hang around long enough!😁
Love your informative vloggs . Really respectful and interesting
Hi there. My dad was buried in Chingford Mount, up on the top part about 150 yards from the church (you basically look over that way about 3:20 in. There is a memorial garden near the back wall for cremations close by.
I didn’t know the Krays were buried there when I was younger, but in my early 20s (having not been there for a few years) I wandered around with my then girlfriend towards the eastern exit (intending to have a walk before starting our journey home) when we noticed some ‘types’ near a part of the cemetery I’d not been to before (having not had reason to I suppose). They were all well dressed but I was not going to make too much eye contact and we just carried on before turning into the park and getting the bus on the Ridgeway to the railway station.
It was only then a couple of years after that when I ended up on another stroll that I was able to put two and two together because there was Frances Kray’s grave alongside a the more modest one for the mum and dad alongside. I wasn’t exactly that bothered about the Krays and knew little other than what was common knowledge, so it was the first time I’d seen something tangible to do with them (I admit I’d not even heard of Frances until that point 🤷🏻♂️).
Obviously, within a few years Ronnie was interred as was Reg in 2000. Until the twins died there was almost always someone there tending the graves when I went but I’ve not seen someone at the grave that looks like one of the ‘types’ for a good long time now. They are still well maintained though of course 👍
Interesting stuff, though I do despair at some of the somewhat skewed, romanticised views some people have of them. But they were certainly of their time 🤔
Cheers 👍🍻🍀
Thank you for your comment Tim it’s very interesting and for watching the video too. 🙏
People love criminals even more now.
Found this channel by accident and really like the videos, good work m8 and I subbed :)
Another great video mate .. thanks for taking time out to make and share this with us
Thanks for your comment as always really appreciate it…. 🙏
@UnusualThings1 the legend Dave Courtney has passed...if he is buried can you visit his grave please? Thanks great content 😊
@@UnusualThings1is it hard to find the krays resting place
Love your videos Paul so peaceful and relaxing lovely escape from the madness around and screaming children not too informed about the krays I remember Barbara Windsor being a fan lovely head stones and gravestones thankyou Paul you are sweet xx
Thankyou Paul once again for an interesting video. The Krays, yes they will never be forgotton, but as we all know we are born, then we die, but it’s what happens in the middle that counts, so we must live each day being kind to one another. Thanks once again Paul, and may your wheels keep turning. 😊
Fantastic video, great commentary and story telling. I love these cemetery videos so peaceful. 🙏🏼
Thanks for watching glad you are enjoying the videos. 🙏
Congratulations on your 1k great channel ❤️
@@suz-x Thank you, yes finally got there…. 🙏
I doubt the krays brought peace in their lifetime
Thank you for all the brilliant info
You have to be the most respectable you-tuber ever...thank you for your consideration & respect to the deceased
Back when I was working in one of the pubs I use to work in a couple years ago, one of the krays side men came into the place I worked in and we ended up in having a fair few hours of chat about how they were and everything, quite a interesting pair
Thank you for your comment Sam that’s really interesting.
Very interesting thank you 😊 keep up the great work you do,and you do it with respect xx
Love your videos, you are very informative and always very respectful.
Thank you for your kind comments, and I’m glad you enjoy them. 🙏
@@UnusualThings1 I just came across your you tube channel, how can you waste your time on these kind of people?, cowards
Thank you for a good and interesting video. The Krays were hero worshipped when they were alive. Myself, I would say let the good Lord be their judge. Rest in Peace to the whole family.🙏❤️🙏
Your right I'd love to go & see the graves one day , pay my respects to the boys .
They were criminal gangsters who caused utmost pain and heatache for all their victims. Not heroes but glamourised by the media and the idiots who hung around them.God will judge them ,and it is eternal hell fire for them and their like. They were too stupid to realise that the law would catch up with them and put them away. And that is what happened. Hell is where they are now.
Great vid . I thought their graves would be grander and more lavish affairs than they are.
Met a guy here in Australia who escaped from these two.
He was terrified he would be followed🇬🇧🫣😩
Thankyou Paul this is the one I been waiting rip kray family ❤️
Could you research the Bentley and Craig story? The injustice of this case should be remembered.
My Dad used to drink with the Krays in the Blue Kettle pub, Islington
Great Video Paul, i really like watching your Videos... So informative.
Thank you, glad you’re enjoying them. 🙏
What a great channel i love watching it very intresting cant wait for your next one
Cracking vid Paul thanks for sharing.
Just found this, have subscribed. Fascinating information. 🙏
Just come across your channel. Have subscribed and now off to watch more. I love your style .
Thank you very much...
Interesting visit today very informative fascinated by the knowledge you gather on your travels
Just found your channel. I also have a bizarre fascination with cemeteries, I find them fascinating, although mine are normally related to WW2, but celebrity ones also interest me too. I like the way you edit to put photos or news clippings in the film. I haven't a clue how to do that,I just do raw unedited stuff. I've followed you on Instagram too.
Thanks Dave, appreciate that….. yes WW2 ones are really interesting. I did montys a while ago, will put it out soon. Thanks for the follow on IG too. 🙏
You should watch Lamont he’s a great cemetery explorer.
@@myrescuecats3028 so is Scott on Tape and the Grimm life collective all amazing channels
Great little video, glad you stayed respectful. Nicely done.
Oh my goodness I found the spot along with someone else who was wandering around looking like me .... What an old cemetery that is so many broken old graves Ty I now have a new weekend pastime to get my steps up at weekends
Glad you enjoyed it
@@UnusualThings1 will be looking into others you have shown so far and leaving Highgate until last lol
Hello Paul; Im new to the channel. Ive really enjoyed what I've seen so far; very respectful
Thanks and welcome
Brilliant. Thank you.
Thankyou for the fascinating info dude!
Any time!
My nan lived next door to the krays my mum grew up with them thank you Paul x
Thank you Maria and that is really interesting. 🙏
What did your family say they were like?
Or wow..I bet she could tell us some stories!! 💖
@@carolinemarley8426 my mum died 40 years ago but yes she often spoke about growing up so close to the krays she said violet kray was a good woman x
@@tabitha4135 my mum said they helped the poor in the east end of London x
Good video upload nice graves proper detailed as well with pictures of them on them cheers Paul for going to find these graves and showing us and telling us about them r.i.p kray twins and rest of family there to great film as well got that to 👍
Just discovered your channel, great content! I’ve subscribed! Looking forward to watching more, thank you!
Thank you Kelly, hope you enjoy it 🙏
I found this one very interesting. My own theory on the gangs in the 50/60's although gangland is wrong there wasn't the crime then that we have these days. Thanks for tne vid Paul
The graveyard is big. If you are visiting, drop the cemetery an E-mail and they will give you a map showing the location. (Basically it’s on the far left as you enter from the main road. It’s near the perimeter wall.)
Excellent video and very well presented.
Amazing how many people knew them or lived next-door to them.
Not as many who were in the Blind Beggar pub that night!!
I know it is ridiculous isn't it 😂
My uncles ronnie and reggie were very much liked where ever they were proper gentlemen they would never harm women or kids if anyone would be in trouble my uncles and grandad Charlie would always be there anytime of the day.
@@davidmartin5567 Your last name is Martin... How are you related to the Kray's? Was it through Charlie's Son Gary or his daughter Nancy?
I was brought up with my 2 uncles when I was born cos my parents didn't want me
Hi there, great video, new to your channel come across it after watching a documentary on Essex boys, great video and great content look forward to more videos
My mum was the kray twins cousin R I P to them both and the rest of the family xx
Used to live in chingford. Was born and raised there been to this grave many times
I have watched the films about the krays," The krays " which i have on DVD and i have watched" legend", i enjoy watching them, i learnt a lot about the kray brothers through watching them.
@Stanly Stud whatever troll.
Great video Paul 👏🏻
I walked through that cemetery the other day on the way from work at 7 am in the morning, it was all misty and very quiet with the sun not up yet I must’ve been crazy LOL. There are some beautiful graves and headstones in there.
Why crazy ? You've more to fear from the living than the dead !
@@stevenwade7466 totally right 💯
Ronnie was probably watching you. ;-)
@@philip-at-tube lol
Thanks for this.
Frances was so stunningly beautiful. I hope she's at peace now❤.
Hiya :) this is the first time I've watched this video... yoyr very helpful and give all the facts to witch is great... the truth is there will be people who loved the kray twins and folks who wernt so keen on them but... they are and always will be legends in there own right..., :);)... I think legend with tom hardy was brilliant and the story line was amazing.... thank you for driving so far and showing us the graves.... :):)
"Legend" is a great movie. :-)
Hi Paul. You stole my thunder! Or perhaps we had the same idea but at different times. I'm a former funeral director of over 20 years.
You've nailed it Pal! Had to subscribe!
Thank you Jason, I used to work in the funeral industry to many years ago....
These video's are great Paul..never seen or knew where The Kray's were buried..and didn't know that Reggie's wife was there also..nice one Paul!
I don't get why people put apostrophe 'S' in plurals as in 'VIDEO'S'. There is no apostrophe 's' in plurals in English. It's basic English not rocket science.
I honestly thought they would have a grand memorial seeing who they were.
Same
Great video 👍🏴
East London famous family. Enjoyed this video,
Your Channel just popped up on my viewing library, glad it did, I’ve enjoyed watching your videos…..can you find Barry (Elliot) chuckles grave? Xxx
I honestly expected the Kray twins gravestone to be a lot bigger than what it was. Very interesting channel.
Why ?
😀Brilliant I've just started watching you very good commentating very interesting keep up the good work 👍
Thank you for the great walk about I would love to go and visit it if I m ever down south I’ve been a fan since wham I was lucky enough to see 25 live in Glasgow the show was amazing so glad I was able to see him live miss him loads wished he was still here he gave us so much fantastic music gone far to soon
The worst offence wasn't Ronnie and Regs crimes,it was Charlies hair style.A comb over "shredded wheat abortion".What the fuck was he thinking ?
Aston Martin no need for that. Yes Charlie's hairstyle in his later years did him no favours but he was a real looker in his younger days and the man was ok, wasn't violent like his younger brothers, and served in the navy.
@@missmuffet3874 well said 👏 👍
Love the crow cawing, when you reached the graves - thank you once again for an interesting and informative video
Great video mate! I don’t know what camera you’re using but it’s crystal clear! 👍
I phone 11 😁