As someone who fought the illuminates in HD1. I always felt that for all the advancements they have, the illuminate always felt kinda cult like. It was bad enough that they shoot lightning and that were blue. But they also took in Super earth traitors. I would love to see those bottom feeding cultist squids come back. I really do as I have a score to settle with them. Them becoming more desperate cultists wont stop me from blasting them with a bomb.
Grandpa definitely needs a stern talk with the Democracy officer but he’s really just reminiscing the horrors of the first war so he might only spend a few months in “time out”.
2:14 Put bluntly, I find it very hard to believe that Super Earth actually defeated The Illuminate during the First Galactic War. We know for a fact that we defeated the Terminids and put them in the Element-710 Farms and we also know for a fact we defeated the Cyborgs given the state of Cyberstan. What happened to The Illuminate though? They just vanished? That's not like Super Earth at all. So, what really happened? I suspect that after defeating the Terminids and the Cyborgs, Super Earth was out of steam and conflict with The Illuminate had ground to a stalemate. The Illuminate undeniably had superior technology and likely did not commit their entire force to the conflict for reasons unknown. How could a diminished Super Earth have won? Here's what The Ministry Of Truth really does not want anyone to know... We did not defeat them, we instead brokered a truce with them. Super Earth lied to their citizens so to not lose face. I strongly suspect that the Dark Fluid we used on Meridia was not "liberated" from The Illuminate, it was a peace offering from them to Super Earth. Dark Fluid was never meant to be used as a weapon, it was meant to be used by Super Earth as a renewable energy source for the FTL systems, which is also technology we "liberated" from The Illuminate; likely another lie. Prior to the FTL Super Earth was using Alcubierre Drives on their ships, which we still use for shorter duration jumps around planetary orbits. Why did The Illuminate do this though? Why didn't they wipe out a weary Super Earth when they could have? I think the answer lies in their culture. The Illuminate are a naturally pacifist people and are deeply religious. They chose to give us the benefit of the doubt and gave us the means to pursue a less aggressive way. However… pacificism is seldom profitable, neither is a renewable energy source as opposed to Element-710. This will all come to a head now that Super Earth succeeded in collapsing Meridia into a black hole using a weaponised version of the same Dark Fluid given as a peace offering and gesture of faith. I think upon seeing what Super Earth has done The Illuminate will return, this time in full force, with the express goal of subduing Super Earth. There is no way that they will allow Super Earth to retain the ability to collapse planets and potentially shatter space-time, especially when they also have to share the blame because they chose to believe Super Earth could be better if shown another way.
I think Super Earth won only because the Illuminate in our galaxy are a tiny fraction of the whole. After humanity won the war, the survivors left the galaxy to go home and report what happened. The Illuminate we're going to see in HD2 looks to be reinforcements from beyond.
Phenomenal take! I agree 100% and suspect this is how the illuminate will show up, and some of the reasoning why. I'm very curious to see if the Meridia black hole is actually a worm hole, and then that's where the Illuminate pop out of.
Nah, they damage probably wont be eletric, it would be kind of goofy, to have an armor that resist 95% of the enemies damage too. Much much probably they Will use dark fluid as fuel to their weapons
@@brunomonteiro7788it doesn’t sound goofy at all. You are trying to make it seem like the illuminate are no more than long range shooters. They will have a plethora of attacks and having 95 percent resistance for 1 form of attacks really isn’t gonna change anything. They will have other powers like mind attacks and physical attacks they are not automatons
I think you forgot to mention the wall generator that made you explode yourself with your own rpg and isolated you from your friends. Over all, very nice video man.
These things look properly eldritch. Also, I can see they drew some inspiration from Gene-Stealer Cults from 40K. Anyway, can wait to see my team get turned into red mist against the new striders. If their guns work like that walker tank from Umbara, where it just arcs between fools and vaporizes them, that would be fucking awesome.
I actually really want to see the outcome of what would have happened if humanity decided not to throw hands with every species in the galaxy and actually come to an alliance with them! But then The automatons technically wouldn’t exist though right…? Cuz the only reason they are around was because of super earth wanting to throw hands… Still, would be interesting to see what would have changed!
The war between the illuminate and super earth started because super earth found out they had world destroying tech, which they didn’t trust so then they bonked the squid dudes (aka squidths)
Ah so we struck first. No wonder they hate us. Also I think they're worshipping a god now which means... yep I think they got a buff and we'll be smitted into ash.
>Old as hell, allegedly superior species, mark of leadership is riding around in power scooters >Gets beaten up and has their social security credits stolen Why do people fear these guys?
I really like the idea that the illuminate, seeing that their tech failed them, have turned to faith and have been spending the last 100 years preparing to take on humanity once again. I believe that the reason the bots and bugs attacked st onde is because of the illuminate coordinating them.
Helldivers is heavily based of starcraft, terminids = zerg / tyranids / bugs (starship troopers) super earth = terrans illuminate = protoss and i guess automatons are basicly mechanicus from 40k so instead of saying everything is nanobots, its probably psychic energy like every ancient alien race has....
Each of the factions was inspired by a different piece of media Terminids = Starship Troopers Automatons = Terminator Illuminate = War of The Worlds Super Earth is just Super Earth
I can't help but compare the observer to the observer. I mean.. starcraft one. They have roughly same shape, both are detectors and are invisible. Only difference is starcraft observers for some reason are MASSIVE
I definitely get the feeling that the Illuminate have been "scarred" in a cultural psyche sense. For lack of a better word, they look less refined than in HD1. They still look alien, but before there was a certain elegance to them. They wanted to look sophisticated. But the designs in HD2, seem less caring on being elegant. They look more sonisterand cult like. The digging brute looks downright monstrous and I wouldn't be surprised if it was called an Abherant or something. The summoner's whip leads me to believe they have become crueler too, demanding instead of imploring.
The question how Helldiver in first galactic war won against this faction and Won against other 2 faction... In addition the number of Helldiver in HD 1 far less than current HD 2 right?
Lol i dont get it why people make the illuminates from hd1 as if theyre the apocalypes of humanity Theyre literally the easiest faction among all three and theyre mostly gimmicky and uses tricks rather than brute force and numbers The only threatening unit the illmuninates have are the ones with mind control
@@emojothejojo theyre the easiest enemies and like 60 percent of the time the cyborgs are last and the illuminate are the first to die. ive played since 2018 an i can only remeber 1 time the illuminate won
As someone who fought the illuminates in HD1. I always felt that for all the advancements they have, the illuminate always felt kinda cult like. It was bad enough that they shoot lightning and that were blue. But they also took in Super earth traitors. I would love to see those bottom feeding cultist squids come back. I really do as I have a score to settle with them. Them becoming more desperate cultists wont stop me from blasting them with a bomb.
I actually had no idea the took in super earth traitors! Super cool fact there.
@@natesgamebox question are they like the automatons and are peaceful until provoked?
@@tomchaye8161 the illuminate used to be a super peaceful race but theyre probably a lot more pissed off now
@@monkeyman4346 thx for the reply I'm a new rookie of managed democracy and this info helps
Grandfather can you teach me how to fight the illuminate?
I’m reporting you to my local democracy officer
Do not he is only giving Information on the Illuminate!
@@maliqazri4989You’ve been reported to my local democracy officer.
Grandpa definitely needs a stern talk with the Democracy officer but he’s really just reminiscing the horrors of the first war so he might only spend a few months in “time out”.
I would like to see you try RISE OF THE RESISTANCE 😤
He has a point about the illuminate, my grandpa told me they used to mind control helldivers agaisnt eachothers…
2:14
Put bluntly, I find it very hard to believe that Super Earth actually defeated The Illuminate during the First Galactic War. We know for a fact that we defeated the Terminids and put them in the Element-710 Farms and we also know for a fact we defeated the Cyborgs given the state of Cyberstan. What happened to The Illuminate though? They just vanished? That's not like Super Earth at all.
So, what really happened?
I suspect that after defeating the Terminids and the Cyborgs, Super Earth was out of steam and conflict with The Illuminate had ground to a stalemate. The Illuminate undeniably had superior technology and likely did not commit their entire force to the conflict for reasons unknown. How could a diminished Super Earth have won?
Here's what The Ministry Of Truth really does not want anyone to know...
We did not defeat them, we instead brokered a truce with them. Super Earth lied to their citizens so to not lose face.
I strongly suspect that the Dark Fluid we used on Meridia was not "liberated" from The Illuminate, it was a peace offering from them to Super Earth. Dark Fluid was never meant to be used as a weapon, it was meant to be used by Super Earth as a renewable energy source for the FTL systems, which is also technology we "liberated" from The Illuminate; likely another lie. Prior to the FTL Super Earth was using Alcubierre Drives on their ships, which we still use for shorter duration jumps around planetary orbits.
Why did The Illuminate do this though?
Why didn't they wipe out a weary Super Earth when they could have?
I think the answer lies in their culture. The Illuminate are a naturally pacifist people and are deeply religious. They chose to give us the benefit of the doubt and gave us the means to pursue a less aggressive way.
However… pacificism is seldom profitable, neither is a renewable energy source as opposed to Element-710.
This will all come to a head now that Super Earth succeeded in collapsing Meridia into a black hole using a weaponised version of the same Dark Fluid given as a peace offering and gesture of faith. I think upon seeing what Super Earth has done The Illuminate will return, this time in full force, with the express goal of subduing Super Earth. There is no way that they will allow Super Earth to retain the ability to collapse planets and potentially shatter space-time, especially when they also have to share the blame because they chose to believe Super Earth could be better if shown another way.
Ngl this theory may actually be true, it just doesn’t make sense for super earth to win with how advanced the illuminate are.
I think Super Earth won only because the Illuminate in our galaxy are a tiny fraction of the whole. After humanity won the war, the survivors left the galaxy to go home and report what happened.
The Illuminate we're going to see in HD2 looks to be reinforcements from beyond.
This make sense to me
I always question how could super earth even won against the illuminate
Phenomenal take! I agree 100% and suspect this is how the illuminate will show up, and some of the reasoning why. I'm very curious to see if the Meridia black hole is actually a worm hole, and then that's where the Illuminate pop out of.
I feel like they might come back right as we invade cyberstan
Agreed.
Would be awesome if they came into the game in real time helping the automatons fight back right as we’re finishing the major order to take cyberstan
@denzelgooden793 Honesty, I hope they stay in the shadows a little longer. I want the cyborgs in Cyberstan to fight us first.
@@braydenshafford342 I would like to see the Cyborg boss you fight in Helldivers 1, make a return.
@@FatalFist The seige mech?
10:46 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke
they don't know about the indomitable human spirit.
And the Super Destroyers.
The strider IMO looks heavily inspired by the Tripods "War of The Worlds" Wouldn't be surprised if they had the same laser attack as them.
The strider is the elite version of that enemy actually, the base enemy is called the tripod
I would say Half Life 2 Striders/Hunters.
Same weakness maybe. Gas attacks!
Y’all better have the electric proof armor because it going to save us
Nah, they damage probably wont be eletric, it would be kind of goofy, to have an armor that resist 95% of the enemies damage too. Much much probably they Will use dark fluid as fuel to their weapons
@@brunomonteiro7788some of their units will use electric weapons
@@brunomonteiro7788we used their tech to pump dark fluid into meridia aswell so I think the illuminate will arrive through the black hole.
@@brunomonteiro7788it doesn’t sound goofy at all. You are trying to make it seem like the illuminate are no more than long range shooters. They will have a plethora of attacks and having 95 percent resistance for 1 form of attacks really isn’t gonna change anything. They will have other powers like mind attacks and physical attacks they are not automatons
Forget about lightning damage, I'm more concerned about the illusionists.
Having your controls reversed in the heat of combat ? Sweet liberty...
Suddenly the Cutting Edge Warbond armour perk doesn’t seem that bad after watching this…
I think you forgot to mention the wall generator that made you explode yourself with your own rpg and isolated you from your friends. Over all, very nice video man.
Holy crap!!! I have no idea how I forgot about the walls. Those things were the worst. Thank you for the reminder.
These things look properly eldritch. Also, I can see they drew some inspiration from Gene-Stealer Cults from 40K.
Anyway, can wait to see my team get turned into red mist against the new striders. If their guns work like that walker tank from Umbara, where it just arcs between fools and vaporizes them, that would be fucking awesome.
They look most like Protoss, just with more arms.
Umbara?
CLONE WARS MENTIONED!
Obligatory F Pong Krell
the monster at 12:06 to me feels like it would be about devastator size, maybe smaller and would get summoned by the summoner
They are revealed to be a ghoul. A small creature acting as cannon fodder I believed?
I heard that supposedly the Illuminate Tripod has foghorn sounds associated with it? Straight-up War of the Worlds 2005.
It goddamn better. This is the only game I know of that let's you fight tripods, it would be criminal to not include the sound
You’re gonna be seeing a lot of people wearing more of the lightning resistant armors once they release them
Im fighting the Illuminate in HD 1 right now
XD back to the future
I low key had a lot of fun playing some HD 1 again to get footage for this video. Still a great game.
I actually really want to see the outcome of what would have happened if humanity decided not to throw hands with every species in the galaxy and actually come to an alliance with them!
But then The automatons technically wouldn’t exist though right…? Cuz the only reason they are around was because of super earth wanting to throw hands…
Still, would be interesting to see what would have changed!
The war between the illuminate and super earth started because super earth found out they had world destroying tech, which they didn’t trust so then they bonked the squid dudes (aka squidths)
Illuminati confirmed
4:53 wow I mean that really dose look like I’ve seen it somewhere before? It’s ok it will come to me eventually no need to Zerg the comments section.
Ah so we struck first. No wonder they hate us.
Also I think they're worshipping a god now which means... yep I think they got a buff and we'll be smitted into ash.
We rightfully struck first! They were planning to infiltrate us and turn us into communist!
Where is the wall summoner?
>Old as hell, allegedly superior species, mark of leadership is riding around in power scooters
>Gets beaten up and has their social security credits stolen
Why do people fear these guys?
We defeated them once, and we'll do it again
Video title had my hand shaking trying to dial my democracy officer hotline
Imagine the reports of friendly fire because of the illusionist
Cutting edge warbound going to come in clutch. My 95 percent arc resistance going to come in clutch!!!
What were the dudes that created the energy walls? Sucked ass when you had walls stopping everything but energy blasts.
I really like the idea that the illuminate, seeing that their tech failed them, have turned to faith and have been spending the last 100 years preparing to take on humanity once again. I believe that the reason the bots and bugs attacked st onde is because of the illuminate coordinating them.
Like they are the true masterminds behind the attacks of the bots and the bugs on our beloved planets and our democracy
The illuminate reminds me so much of the protoss from SC1 and SC2
How about terminids and the zerg tho? Cause imo they're really similiar
Not this time we have more streght and we prepares next event All helldiver to fit helmet to the war
Helldivers is heavily based of starcraft,
terminids = zerg / tyranids / bugs (starship troopers)
super earth = terrans
illuminate = protoss
and i guess automatons are basicly mechanicus from 40k
so instead of saying everything is nanobots, its probably psychic energy like every ancient alien race has....
Each of the factions was inspired by a different piece of media
Terminids = Starship Troopers
Automatons = Terminator
Illuminate = War of The Worlds
Super Earth is just Super Earth
Tarnished is an amazing word to describe the new designs. Amazing video as usual! Keep up the good work of the science department of super earth!
Thank you grandfather
they better not alter MY controls and MY stratagem inputs because I wont be happy
I can't help but compare the observer to the observer. I mean.. starcraft one. They have roughly same shape, both are detectors and are invisible. Only difference is starcraft observers for some reason are MASSIVE
How can he forget the obelisks??
I like how the - *Redacted by the ministry of truth* - returning are the future space version of something that didn’t happen in China in 1989
With all the lighting stuff the cutting edge armor will finally be useful.
Oh god, that Railgun bearing child is learning to kick flip!
Is… that the music from Prometheus? Lol
This thumbnail and video has been reported to the democracy officer
The Illuminati strider looks almost identical the tripods in war of the worlds
Helldivers 2.
-Pest control
-Commie bot stompers
-Magician-scientists slayer
-Pilot? (If we did this? We'd be op.)
They looked like a Covenant / Elite from Halo mixed with some Tyrranid from WH40K
With maybe the whole War of the Worlds teipod
Bro didn’t know they still wouldn’t be out 5 months later 😢. Me too dude 😅
I definitely get the feeling that the Illuminate have been "scarred" in a cultural psyche sense. For lack of a better word, they look less refined than in HD1. They still look alien, but before there was a certain elegance to them. They wanted to look sophisticated.
But the designs in HD2, seem less caring on being elegant. They look more sonisterand cult like. The digging brute looks downright monstrous and I wouldn't be surprised if it was called an Abherant or something. The summoner's whip leads me to believe they have become crueler too, demanding instead of imploring.
4:04 it looks more like a Railgun useing the the arm panels
Illuminate may be advance, but they aren’t advance enough to outsmart bullets
The question how Helldiver in first galactic war won against this faction and Won against other 2 faction...
In addition the number of Helldiver in HD 1 far less than current HD 2 right?
Being very aggressive may helped because ilimunati didn't expected aggression
@@ИльяНедбаев-у3н so we are doing Blitzkrieg to their planet? Damn its seems we are the ones that invade their planet, are we the bad guy?
@@gerogero2011 also you stole some of their technology such as shields, enhanced warp drives, energetic weapons and others
I'm lowkey guessing they are gonna come out of the Meridia black hole.
Also, it would be cool to get psionic weaponry.
I would deffo like more enemies that have guns like grunt soldiers
13:02 This is some war of the worlds looking stuff
These protos… I mean illuminate units look scary
12:55 brings me back a war of the worlds trauma...
So the illuminates are going full Tryrranid ?
Nice
That new strider reminds me of war of the worlds
The illuminate war of the worlds cant defeat humanity if humanity defeats itself
Two months later they are here
Illuminates were trivially easy to defeat
Why is grandson Jimmy too curious about our vile enemy?
Am I the only person who thinks the Illuminate striders look like the Starcraft 2 Colossus?
No. The Illuminate look like Protoss in general.
Guess who is on his way to your suoer home
Humanity will never be defeated by some disgusting squids!
This sound like treason
With advanced enough technology it is as if there using magic
Lol i dont get it why people make the illuminates from hd1 as if theyre the apocalypes of humanity
Theyre literally the easiest faction among all three and theyre mostly gimmicky and uses tricks rather than brute force and numbers
The only threatening unit the illmuninates have are the ones with mind control
I get the feeling that these illuminate... are gonna make you eat your words.
That thumbnail is getting you executed
Now I DONT want them added to Helldivers 2
Why
@@MichaelThomas-q3mtwo words Force Fields!
@@blood_star32 yeah but we can still defeat them in a different attack style
Why do they look like the combine from half life 2
We defeated the pm on hd1 we defeat them again
illuminates: NANOBOTS SON
Treason 😊
Illuminate will be a paid DLC or bundled in a season/ battle pass
They better not be
SPOILER
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The possible Illuminate Strider design looks like the walkers in War of the Worlds remake.
W video
I’m guessing the illuminate lost as they have a small army size
this propagandist right here, democracy officer.
It would be cool if the illusionist can mind control a player to attack other players
what are you talking about. the illuminate were the easiest faction in hd 1 they always died first
They didn't always, I remember one war that the illuminate were the last enemies standing, and they pushed to super Earth, and we lost that war
@@emojothejojo theyre the easiest enemies and like 60 percent of the time the cyborgs are last and the illuminate are the first to die. ive played since 2018 an i can only remeber 1 time the illuminate won
Stop making so many jokes bro you’re not funny just say the lore and go
Dont cry lil bro
Need more helldivers content from you bro 🔥 you got the sauce
6:31 jokes on him I play both normal and inverted control