Correct. Here you Can Buy beer and cider in stores wich are 3.5% when you turn 18. But if you want the strong stuff you need to go to systembolaget, and there you need to be 21
I am a space marine. I’d likely destroy you in combat by my super human strength. I command you to release him as he is teaching us about the anatomy and history behind the galactic wars.
I really do like that they left things very vague. It fits with how super earth really would be, very restrictive on the truth. But it's also very fun that the community gets to come up with their own theories. I think it's part of what has kept the community playing the game for this long!
15:41 It should. The factory strider has a lot of problems but one thing that would be a cool change is if the doors on the belly worked exactly the same but 1/4 of the way through their health they broke and you could toss a grenade in through the gap and it blows up the whole thing like a regular factory or like that one AT-AT in episode V
The story they have built from HD1 to HD2 has been an awesome journey. I still log onto the first game to play with my wife and son to teach them about Super Earth lmao.
39:23 you forgot the bugs that look like small hunters, that are as small as scavengers, have wings and can also jump, so I think the hunters and stalkers are just an adolescent and adult form of that baby bug.
@@krzakijegogoebie3599 its pretty much just do nothing and get a free set of armour and old gun from HD1 you can call me wrong if something does happen but i really feel like their just being lazy on this one.
@@BERSRRKmaybe next year will be better, they are quite busy trying to patch the game because of all the complaints and the 60 day plan that just ended
Good vid but note about the automatons, it would be completely reasonable to say that they both are controlled by human brains but also that they do the whole human chopping thing because it does instill fear. It would be completely useful to instill fear in the enemy in warfare, and with the automatons not having a moral compass, and likely having enough AI to see the butchering thing as a psyops win without loss, it would be reasonable for them to do that.
As someone who dosent own either game. I love watching these mega lore videos for franchises that I find interesting but not enough to spend money on. Great video quality.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!! I always wanted to make a "complete" lore video, but wanted to make sure I did it right. This type of combo video felt like the best way to do it.
I'm gonna assume the reason the Automatons chant is not because they have a brain in them but because it was just done by the cyborgs because they wanted them to. The Automatons are their children, their creation. They are made in their image, so why wouldn't they have similarities? They repeat the messages of their creators: blood and steel.
If the bots do have human brains, they will either need human hearts and lungs, or mechanical ones. Mechanical ones would probably be more reliable and easy to repair or replace. The brain needs oxogen from the blood. The rest of the robot requires oil to function.
That is something I didn't consider. They would need some way to get oxygen into the brain. I guess they could have some kind of artificial bubbler kind of how fish tanks have bubblers to get oxygen into the water.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! I'm annoyed about some of those transitions too. Some of the clips in this video were from some older videos when I was a much worse editor.
My theory on the weird breeding decisions for the bugs that resulted in the current warriors and other more spindly variants in HD2: Super Earth wanted to breed weapons. These traits then evolved into the hive once they broke out. Ants and other insects irl regularly adapt traits to serve incredibly specific roles in the hive. Theres ants that adapt a self destruct mechanism to defend the hive, some spit acid (spewer variants), some get large flat heads to cover the entrances of the nest (hive guards). And to your point on the male/female idea, I think all terminids are born female (baby spewer). They then either become male (scavenger/baby hunter) or remain female (green spewer). The male scavenger can then evolve into the orange nursing spewer, which would protect eggs after birth, while the female green spewer lays the eggs. If the nest is low on males, the green spewers can change into the green warriors to bolster defense. Back to the scavenger, it would also be able to adapt to become the male warrior, which grows to the brood commander and alpha commanders, as a more offensive role, while it would change to become a hive guard, which grows to chargers and impalers, as a defensive role. the baby hunter obviously becomes the hunter, shrieker, and stalker, and the oldest green spewers grow to bile titans. Thats just based on what little I know about irl biology and the information you gave in the video, so none of this is canonical, but I think its a decent theory lol
One thing Nate overlooked is that you can tell Bile Titans are female because when you go to the mega nest to retrieve the egg you can always tell where the egg is by looking for the bile titans legs sticking up because its oddly smashed into the ground with the egg sitting in its mouth.
You could make the argument that the original bug warrior strain was eliminated during the bugs domestication. Obviously super earth wouldn’t want the defacto guardians of the hive around so they were exterminated. The scout lineage might have adapted to help replace that now empty role which is why they appear much much similar to the diminutive scavengers
I have a theory, what if the cyborgs made one automaton who then fled the galaxy, made a army with all these new more deadly kinds of automatons, and then invaded our galaxy with the purpose of defeating super earth.
“No way the bugs are the same species” yeah thats why they’re called Terminids. Thats the species name. Like how you have soldier and worker and queen ants, just bigger and more murderous, like warrior, charger, bile titan
Fun fact: on the map there are two planets that stand out too me. One being new Stockholm, and the other being new Kiruna. Stockholm as you all know being the capital of super earth. But kiruna is a place here in Sweden wich is a town that is moving because it’s over a large mine and the town could collapse in to it
the shrieker was created the TCS systems on the outlier planets (including the now black hole of meridia, we made them by accident.. probably hunters mutated
I have caught the basic grunt bots on multiple occasions being scared to fire the weapons when its just 1 of them and 1 of you they will just look at you and back up if you get close but if its multiple grunts they will shoot
Someone slowed down the screaming that the chainsaw devs do, and it sounds roughly like “ HELP ME…. THE PAIIIIN….. PLEASE HELP” and honestly I’m not sure if I want to think that they turn people into these things, or they just record the sounds of their victims
So everyone here knows what the 40K dreadnought is, right? I think the chainsaw guys are the HD2 equivalent of the dreadnought. They look very haphazardly built and only serve to just rush you with no regards to their life. I think that any wounded troopers and devistators that are left are converted into these guys so that they still serve a perpose, but they can save some of the metal from the devistator’s armor for more devistators, while the weakened troopers can be made into a slightly more powerful unit. Does that make sense?
The dreadnought is an honor. It is more like the Hulk. A terrifying presence (unless you have a quasar cannon). What you are thinking of are the World Eaters, who do very much love to rush into battle with chain-axes and 0 regard for their safety.
I don't think the bug growth stage thing is absolute, because like, ants, bees, they're definently all the same species tho, they live together, but they're all probably their own types, now some of them I think could be older versions, like the warrior and similar, as well as the gender thing, but I think there are obvious lines where there are other bugs built for a specific task for the colony
wow, i definitely totally didn't commit treason against super earth and have joined the three factions and im may be feeding info- oh nahhhh i ain't im a loyal helldiver, i totally didn't anything that goes against super earth:]
i have to call cap on the take that hulks are harder to take down than a tank. Hulks are easy you just gotta shoot the red glowy red eye twice with an Autocannon and the hulk is finished you can't do that with tanks.
@@somekindofbirdman6524 Hell yea! I love some good tyranids. Never painted any myself, but a good friend has some veryyyy good looking ones he painted up. Also I am a filthy painter lol. I mayyy have gotten $2 home depot white paint to use as primer. I have made my painting process more painful.
11:10 I choose to believe almost all non-humanoid automatons have pilots we dont see in them. The tank in the first game had a guy in it, why not this one? The hulk could be a mech or it could be a mech SUIT. Obviously the factory strider has bots in it but in not so sure they're piloting it, same with the gunship i dont think it realistically has a pilot but it could. How cool would it be if you were fighting an annihilator tank and you shot off its minigun or stood on top of the cannon and a tank commander in a tank helmet popped out of the top and shot at you with a pistol? Then you could kill him and the tank would die without blowing up. And that would give you a way to kill it without just light penetration. The other tanks would need other methods but think of how engaging that would be, it might even give EMS a niche because the tank not working would be a great reason to get out to look
@@natesgamebox I remember seeing some documentary called “UFOs in Europe.” And it had something where some military sent jets to look at some supposed UFOs locals were seeing. They only had photos though. Edit: just remembered that the local law enforcement reported seeing stuff there too, and there were radar pings. I don’t personally believe in it. But it’s just cool seeing some of this stuff.
@@loadingscreentipguy I shall! You as well. In the words of one of my coworkers when we were stuck working night shift "good 'morrow, because I genuinely don't know what day it is"
I think the cyborgs created the automatons to scorch earth (no pun intended) all of the SEAF empire. Probably are going to continue in their own cyborg ways. who knows maybe their still there and the cyborgs just prefer these bots take on the war and none of their kind can die
It’s corrosive gas. Melts away at steel and completely ruins all the internal wiring and components sending them around in bugged circles, it’s not about them being able to inhale the gas. Same reason why the advanced filtration armour doesn’t give you full gas immunity, you are immune to inhaling the gas, but your body isn’t immune to the corrosive properties of it, and you will melt.
@@admiralrhino4049 no, they are toxic gas grenades, it says so in the description. To be fair they are more like tear gas grenades because they don't kill that effectively. Acid grenades would be cool tho to reduce target armor
Fun fact about Sweden, there are a few stores that sell alcohol, they aren't open most days of the week and are open for like four hours at a time.
Correct. Here you Can Buy beer and cider in stores wich are 3.5% when you turn 18. But if you want the strong stuff you need to go to systembolaget, and there you need to be 21
Thanks for the fun fact
Gay
and run by the gov :P so gov is indirectly poisoning you and tax with ridiculous rates at the same time
Hmm very interesting. Thanks for the fun fact!
I have reported you to the democracy officer
What officer? Isn't he kidnapped?
@@Sleazy-Spidera different officer
Didn't you see the beginning.... he's in on it!! Utterly unacceptable traitor to super earth damnd democracy officer
The ministry of truth has thank you
I am a space marine.
I’d likely destroy you in combat by my super human strength.
I command you to release him as he is teaching us about the anatomy and history behind the galactic wars.
One of the greatest things about helldivers 2 is that the history is made in part by the community
I really do like that they left things very vague. It fits with how super earth really would be, very restrictive on the truth. But it's also very fun that the community gets to come up with their own theories. I think it's part of what has kept the community playing the game for this long!
Sweet Liberty I'm going to get a libertea for this one
Same Brother
1:59 "But that's enough modern day" MY BROTHER IN DEMOCRACY
15:41
It should.
The factory strider has a lot of problems but one thing that would be a cool change is if the doors on the belly worked exactly the same but 1/4 of the way through their health they broke and you could toss a grenade in through the gap and it blows up the whole thing like a regular factory or like that one AT-AT in episode V
4 impact grenades can destroy it from the underside
@@hahajohngaming
Yeah but thats not cool
@@hahajohngaming Or 2 termite
Tell your democracy-approved fish you love them, because you will not be seeing them again
Nemo served well
"Why would robots need to chant" they don't need a flesh brain to have individual sentience you know.
not to mention that instilling fear in the enemy is a valuable tool strategically speaking
The story they have built from HD1 to HD2 has been an awesome journey. I still log onto the first game to play with my wife and son to teach them about Super Earth lmao.
I played the first helldiver some to get footage for this video, and it is still very fun! It's a very good throw back.
39:23 you forgot the bugs that look like small hunters, that are as small as scavengers, have wings and can also jump, so I think the hunters and stalkers are just an adolescent and adult form of that baby bug.
So what you’re saying is that super earth is right and bugs and bots are wrong.
True enough, the tech used by the automatons is a lottle backwards and old. Not as good as the tech humanity owns.
Looks like some of those illuminate models are their way of brining back those mutant cyborg things with the claw hands
Im so excited. The Liberty day is almost here...
aaaand no major order lol.
@@BERSRRK there is a major order, but it is a bit suspicious. i mean it is understandable, but it can go in very bad way for helldivers
@@krzakijegogoebie3599 its pretty much just do nothing and get a free set of armour and old gun from HD1 you can call me wrong if something does happen but i really feel like their just being lazy on this one.
And i was right.
@@BERSRRKmaybe next year will be better, they are quite busy trying to patch the game because of all the complaints and the 60 day plan that just ended
Good vid but note about the automatons, it would be completely reasonable to say that they both are controlled by human brains but also that they do the whole human chopping thing because it does instill fear. It would be completely useful to instill fear in the enemy in warfare, and with the automatons not having a moral compass, and likely having enough AI to see the butchering thing as a psyops win without loss, it would be reasonable for them to do that.
As someone who dosent own either game. I love watching these mega lore videos for franchises that I find interesting but not enough to spend money on. Great video quality.
If you get a chance to get it you'll have a blast
Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@ Why thank you.
@Pabs-y3z I am also. rather weird. Best way to live truly
A one and a half hour lore video on Helldivers!? Even if I already know some of it let’s goooooo
I'm glad you enjoyed it!! I always wanted to make a "complete" lore video, but wanted to make sure I did it right. This type of combo video felt like the best way to do it.
Someone count how many time he said something treasonous
693 times!
I think the bugs mutated themselves as well as being mutated by super earth, and some of that was from the terminid control
I'm gonna assume the reason the Automatons chant is not because they have a brain in them but because it was just done by the cyborgs because they wanted them to. The Automatons are their children, their creation. They are made in their image, so why wouldn't they have similarities? They repeat the messages of their creators: blood and steel.
If the bots do have human brains, they will either need human hearts and lungs, or mechanical ones. Mechanical ones would probably be more reliable and easy to repair or replace. The brain needs oxogen from the blood. The rest of the robot requires oil to function.
That is something I didn't consider. They would need some way to get oxygen into the brain. I guess they could have some kind of artificial bubbler kind of how fish tanks have bubblers to get oxygen into the water.
Honey wake up, a new Nate video dropped!!
Love this video great job nate!!
Thank you!!!
Great video, some transitions got muddled up here and there but awesome lore
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! I'm annoyed about some of those transitions too. Some of the clips in this video were from some older videos when I was a much worse editor.
Ok so, earlier today I was fighting some automatons.
I walked into an area where they were shooting each other.
Finally someone understands the severity of the polar bear issue
Sneaky little guys I tell ya what
Oh hell yeah. A full video of this. Time to lock in and watch on loop.
Thank you!!! Glad you enjoyed!
Right before the DSS construction.
Bout to be put on every list of traitors, dissidents, and enemy sympathizers
I have to wonder if it's not your clones that get unfrozen each time you die. You seem to inherit the Destroyer and weapons of the last Helldiver.
Very cool dive into the lore! Fun theories that make sense
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
I don't know why it always icks me whenever I see someone write the word "Automaton" wrong
...I'm still on the side of super earth just to be clear
There is no better picture of a gunship because anytime there flying that red beam is glowing, even when flying around and not targeting someone
My theory on the weird breeding decisions for the bugs that resulted in the current warriors and other more spindly variants in HD2: Super Earth wanted to breed weapons. These traits then evolved into the hive once they broke out. Ants and other insects irl regularly adapt traits to serve incredibly specific roles in the hive. Theres ants that adapt a self destruct mechanism to defend the hive, some spit acid (spewer variants), some get large flat heads to cover the entrances of the nest (hive guards). And to your point on the male/female idea, I think all terminids are born female (baby spewer). They then either become male (scavenger/baby hunter) or remain female (green spewer). The male scavenger can then evolve into the orange nursing spewer, which would protect eggs after birth, while the female green spewer lays the eggs. If the nest is low on males, the green spewers can change into the green warriors to bolster defense. Back to the scavenger, it would also be able to adapt to become the male warrior, which grows to the brood commander and alpha commanders, as a more offensive role, while it would change to become a hive guard, which grows to chargers and impalers, as a defensive role. the baby hunter obviously becomes the hunter, shrieker, and stalker, and the oldest green spewers grow to bile titans. Thats just based on what little I know about irl biology and the information you gave in the video, so none of this is canonical, but I think its a decent theory lol
You forgot about the nursing spewers when talking about bugs. It brings questions into your theory that id love to see you talk about!
I got a Red Bull ad right before The Council Member haha
The alien Prometheus music was a really nice touch to the storytelling and video, but i'm still reporting you to the democracy officer
Thank you! The music just fits so well with a space themed topic
Yes democracy officer, this man right here.
That was pretty good. As I sit here at work. Listening to grandpa stories! 😂
Glad you enjoyed!! Thank you!
Mega city 6 being Buenos Aires is a nice Starship Troopers refeeence.
Ayyyy I didn't even catch that! Thanks for pointing that out. That is cool!
Nate does it again!
One thing Nate overlooked is that you can tell Bile Titans are female because when you go to the mega nest to retrieve the egg you can always tell where the egg is by looking for the bile titans legs sticking up because its oddly smashed into the ground with the egg sitting in its mouth.
27:27 give us the Boston dynamics dog as an enemy, arrowhead, it’s perfect
What a… nice video citizen! Yes offfcier it’s this one
You could make the argument that the original bug warrior strain was eliminated during the bugs domestication. Obviously super earth wouldn’t want the defacto guardians of the hive around so they were exterminated. The scout lineage might have adapted to help replace that now empty role which is why they appear much much similar to the diminutive scavengers
Taking out the gunships is soooo satisfying
4:33 Lore accurate ragdolling as one of those brave Helldivers steps on a pebble when walking away.
I have a theory, what if the cyborgs made one automaton who then fled the galaxy, made a army with all these new more deadly kinds of automatons, and then invaded our galaxy with the purpose of defeating super earth.
High command will be visiting your destroyer shortly
This was an awesome video 🤩🤩🤩
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Nate's Game Box thats who sir. Arrest him. FOR DEMOCRACY.
“No way the bugs are the same species” yeah thats why they’re called Terminids. Thats the species name. Like how you have soldier and worker and queen ants, just bigger and more murderous, like warrior, charger, bile titan
The promethians are gonna attack, I'll be ready
Fun fact: on the map there are two planets that stand out too me. One being new Stockholm, and the other being new Kiruna. Stockholm as you all know being the capital of super earth. But kiruna is a place here in Sweden wich is a town that is moving because it’s over a large mine and the town could collapse in to it
the shrieker was created the TCS systems on the outlier planets (including the now black hole of meridia, we made them by accident.. probably hunters mutated
Wow! So informative!
Psst... hes right here democacy officer
Was really good! Shame im going to have to report you to the democracy officer
I have caught the basic grunt bots on multiple occasions being scared to fire the weapons when its just 1 of them and 1 of you they will just look at you and back up if you get close but if its multiple grunts they will shoot
Also, there is invisible Helldivers tech, you just can’t see it.
WHOA. I had not considered this. That explains all the invisible polar bears
I think the Butcher is more akin to the Berzerkers. Berserkers are basically Melee dominators
Good video but wish there was more super earth lore like real lore
Someone slowed down the screaming that the chainsaw devs do, and it sounds roughly like “ HELP ME…. THE PAIIIIN….. PLEASE HELP” and honestly I’m not sure if I want to think that they turn people into these things, or they just record the sounds of their victims
Illuminit is what happens if we were in mass effect
you didnt seem to notice the bots emblem has a gear going around it.
Democracy officer Calberg! We got another one!
So everyone here knows what the 40K dreadnought is, right? I think the chainsaw guys are the HD2 equivalent of the dreadnought. They look very haphazardly built and only serve to just rush you with no regards to their life. I think that any wounded troopers and devistators that are left are converted into these guys so that they still serve a perpose, but they can save some of the metal from the devistator’s armor for more devistators, while the weakened troopers can be made into a slightly more powerful unit.
Does that make sense?
No
@@qwertzuiop1512good.
The dreadnought is an honor. It is more like the Hulk. A terrifying presence (unless you have a quasar cannon).
What you are thinking of are the World Eaters, who do very much love to rush into battle with chain-axes and 0 regard for their safety.
@ Oh, ok.
@@xanmontes8715 recoilless rifle melts the bots
I was hoping for a more serious explanation for Super Earth… But alrught
It would be sick if they added the aliens from the war of the worlds
In the leaks for the illuminate it seems like they have a tripod as their heavy enemy
@theofficialbruhfish8094 oh nah, there actually gonna add tripods
Theory, like some other bug species, the Terminids have more than 2 genders. Bile Titans, Chargers, and Stalkers are their 3 genders.
I don't think the bug growth stage thing is absolute, because like, ants, bees, they're definently all the same species tho, they live together, but they're all probably their own types, now some of them I think could be older versions, like the warrior and similar, as well as the gender thing, but I think there are obvious lines where there are other bugs built for a specific task for the colony
You should do a vid on liberty day!
I was okay until it tried to steal my legs
Reported to the ministry of truth
I swear ive seen the remnants of giant bile titan sized wings. . .
14:45 The gunships aren't that bad if you have an end time material rifle, two shots to an engine will drop it.
Some of the bugs are wrong, the charger behemoth was a reemergence from Hd1 do to the unforeseen consequences of the TCS.
1:23 what is this ost its familiar
It's not the only song throughout the video, but the main one I use is Atlantis by Audionautix!
wow, i definitely totally didn't commit treason against super earth and have joined the three factions and im may be feeding info- oh nahhhh i ain't im a loyal helldiver, i totally didn't anything that goes against super earth:]
i have to call cap on the take that hulks are harder to take down than a tank. Hulks are easy you just gotta shoot the red glowy red eye twice with an Autocannon and the hulk is finished you can't do that with tanks.
I have reported you to the highest ranking part of the ministry of truth
The berserker reminds me of angron with his butchers nails implant
Good stuff man, you are the Lorediver now.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
Painting my Warhammer minis while listening lol
What are you painting up? My Necrons stare at me daily as they collect dust lol
@natesgamebox I'm painting little tyranid boys, but the starter kit didn't come with a primer so I need to order some yet
@@somekindofbirdman6524 Hell yea! I love some good tyranids. Never painted any myself, but a good friend has some veryyyy good looking ones he painted up.
Also I am a filthy painter lol. I mayyy have gotten $2 home depot white paint to use as primer. I have made my painting process more painful.
Very interesting video...
Now face the wall, traitor.
I’ve super emailed general brasch, youre fucked buddy
I think you mean super-fucked.
No hes super fucked
SUPER fucked
Wait what about the orange spewers
You didn't mention the Illuminate Obelisk...
Fun Fact: Switzerland is not Sweden!
Have you heard of an aunt?
beware the Mecha-Terminid
Pretty sure the Berserkers are made from Devastators hull
11:10
I choose to believe almost all non-humanoid automatons have pilots we dont see in them. The tank in the first game had a guy in it, why not this one? The hulk could be a mech or it could be a mech SUIT. Obviously the factory strider has bots in it but in not so sure they're piloting it, same with the gunship i dont think it realistically has a pilot but it could.
How cool would it be if you were fighting an annihilator tank and you shot off its minigun or stood on top of the cannon and a tank commander in a tank helmet popped out of the top and shot at you with a pistol? Then you could kill him and the tank would die without blowing up. And that would give you a way to kill it without just light penetration.
The other tanks would need other methods but think of how engaging that would be, it might even give EMS a niche because the tank not working would be a great reason to get out to look
When are illuminates coming into hd2?
59:06 ufos are real! Also, is that the camera from that jet that was sent to find unknown areal activity? Or is it from a movie.
It's the footage from that jet yes! Still have no idea if it's ACTUALLY real, but it's the one that was all over the news
@@natesgamebox I remember seeing some documentary called “UFOs in Europe.” And it had something where some military sent jets to look at some supposed UFOs locals were seeing. They only had photos though. Edit: just remembered that the local law enforcement reported seeing stuff there too, and there were radar pings. I don’t personally believe in it. But it’s just cool seeing some of this stuff.
@@natesgamebox Cool. Have a great day! (Or night/morning)
@@loadingscreentipguy I shall! You as well. In the words of one of my coworkers when we were stuck working night shift "good 'morrow, because I genuinely don't know what day it is"
so... are we the baddies???
I swear I've seen this video 6 months ago
This seems undemocratic
I love all of this, except the entire concept of pheromones for communication is irrelevant in a true hive mind.
Unfortunately, I am unable to finish the video after the first 30 seconds. I have reported you to the democracy officer.
I think the cyborgs created the automatons to scorch earth (no pun intended) all of the SEAF empire. Probably are going to continue in their own cyborg ways. who knows maybe their still there and the cyborgs just prefer these bots take on the war and none of their kind can die
Automatons are still human inside, poison gas kills them
It’s corrosive gas. Melts away at steel and completely ruins all the internal wiring and components sending them around in bugged circles, it’s not about them being able to inhale the gas. Same reason why the advanced filtration armour doesn’t give you full gas immunity, you are immune to inhaling the gas, but your body isn’t immune to the corrosive properties of it, and you will melt.
The gas grenades arent a toxin, or poison. They are corrosive/acidic
@@admiralrhino4049 no, they are toxic gas grenades, it says so in the description. To be fair they are more like tear gas grenades because they don't kill that effectively. Acid grenades would be cool tho to reduce target armor
@@tedarcher9120 it's corrosive gas, thats why you still take damage even with advanced filtration passive.
@@tedarcher9120 it's corrosive