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apparently they are made of "element 710" which is OIL upside down. super earth has been farming the terminids for this element 710 for generations, but recently, their populations have exceeded super earth control.
Never forget. They grew Corn on Hellmire. Or at least something that looked like corn/wheat. In neat rows. I refuse to believe the hellmire colonists are all gone. They'd make it.
FOR THE EMPO- dang it wrong script uhh where’s my…ah here we go. FOR ROCK AND STO- damn it that’s the wrong one again isn’t it uuhhhhhhhh FOR SUPER EARTH there we go
Another thing that confirms to me that they are carbon based is that, from my understanding, silicon based life simply cannot exist with oxygen in the air, and when we resque civilians they are not wearing any oxygen tanks nor protective suits, implying that the oxygen level in the atmosthere of planets is at least 20%
Another thing is that silicon is pretty dense, if bile titans can exist on varied planets and move at running pace on very high-pressure feet, something absurd to earth-based life, then they must be very light or buoyant in air.
@@catfwish I mean a titan is dwarved by some (very few tbf) dinosaurs we had walking around, so its not impossible and they're quite thin, its not impossible. I think the impaler is way bulkier than a Titan and that thing should not be able to move (nor should his tentacles be able to dig like 150ft in seconds)
Super Earth needs to build a bunch of Bussard Ramjet probes; magnetically sweep the spores into the intake, ignite with the fusion drive, exhaust harmless spore soot to propel the probe further in.
You're not gonna believe this, but I thought the exact same thing. But that'd be allot of ramjets. The Gloom is weird, and if the map is to be believed, the bugs are somehow projecting a Spore storm so large, it covers a portion of the Galaxy easily.
@@1stColonialRegiment Not too hard if you make it _uncredible_ sparse. Like, fewer of them by far than hydrogen atoms in interstellar space. Of course you could have the density a lot higher inside star systems. Think a dyson swarm, but semi-organic.
I mean, the bugs are only a problem because Super Earth farmed and experimented on them for a century, we’re just cleaning up while repeating the same mistake
I think you need to change the low IQ guys with the mid IQ. I will leave you the benefit of the doubt because maybe it was just a mistake but I will still tell my democracy officer about your comment…
@@emojothejojo OR, humanity is unknowingly spreading the spores to everywhere else they inhabit, and when they die the pustules are just the spores barely making themselves known
@@Im_oofman232 I mean, I guess I’ve subscribed and I am in the reserve once they get the Boots on expedition (or BOX aka Xbox) Going then, hopefully I should be able to enlist
Thank god tbh, the flood just WIPES anything that’s organic, and if it’s big enough it can wipe inorganic things aswell, they where so dangerous the GALAXY had to be wiped of all life to stop the flood
Thanks to lung tissue damage that’d just make the lungs more likely to be wetter than they should be, or have cuts and abrasions for the spores to get inside the rest of you and have an even easier supply of water and nutrients from blood.
I'm not one to make accusations, however, if one was to go above Super Earth right now, you can watch some Super Destroyers firing stratagems and dropping divers, implying either invasion attempts, quelling riots, or something even more sinister happening back 'home'...
@@MrMafia400 i've seen it happen at the DSS, squadron of super destroyers moving in front of the ship with one of them firing a gatling burst. I think it carries over if you come from a system with active combat
I shudder to imagine what is going on on the dozen-ish planets consumed by the Gloom.. what sort of horrors are we gonna encounter? The Gloom, and the Supercolony before it, makes me think of a quote that I think accurately sums up the situation: “Doomsday and Armageddon just had a baby. And it is UGLY”
Based Wreck It Ralph quote. Truly can not imagine what new biology could be cooking in the gloom. Impalers are already highly dangerous, Bile Titans while you're unprepared are extremely lethal, we haven't seen the centipede terminid things yet (forgot their name), what else could come!?
Thank Liberty, I got so tired of explaining to people "no, Super Earth is not spreading the damn bugs. They could spread on their own in HD1". Super Earth be sketchy, but we're not quite THAT sketchy.
Super earth IS spreading bugs 100%, they do it publicly even since there are colonies that literaly farm terminids for various resources and mainly petrol/oil. And i have a very strong suspicion the gloom started spreading so much because of what happened with the massive gas towers. Also if theres an undemocratic colony somewhere, why not drop some bugs in the nearest cave to sort em out or maybe drop a vial of gloom spores in one of the houses.
The Gloom is Spores. Spores Are Dense Shelled Organic Components. These Shells Are Usually Able to be Ionized. Charged Particles Embedded in Mass Create a Magnetic Field; That is to Say, Ionized Particles Can be Magnetized. Particles With a Charge (Q Traveling at V) Creates a Magnetic Field. (Q*V). Both The Speed & The Charge of This Energy Can be Created With The FTL Engines. Because E-710 (Oil Based) Engines Create Such Fields. All We Have to do is FTL a Ship With No Movement to Gather The Spores, Then Set a Destination That Would Destroy Them. The Gravitonic Shear is The Main Component in The Equation do to The Alcubierre Distortion Warping Effect (The Amount of Space Moving). We Just Need to Move The Spores to Merida (Not Into Merida) & Merida's Gravity Will Pull Them in on Their Own. It's a Glorious Day for Science!
You should report to the science division and get that implemented, the divers are gonna have enough on their plate with scraping the bugs off of the presently engloomed planets when it's gone.
0:47 ...i just realized how large that warrior is... that's like twice there actually size. Wow I've been made a fool of propaganda and it took 6 months to see it...wow
we have been the jumping off point for the gambit that is currently happening on SHELT we should take pride in that we have made it possible to not only liberate a planet but to also shut down an attack crippling the Clankers ability to destroy our super weapon. as a new recruit I hope my foresight in this matter may boost me towards a promotion (I do not want one but if its offered I would like to take it).
One counter argument to this is that Socorro 3 has a sparse spore cloud over it. If the gloom was as lethal as mentioned, Socorro 3 wouldn't be under our control.
I like that your recent videos have expanded on Helldivers lore a bit. When you look at the absolutely insane amount of lore in the 40k universe, there's a lot of potential with Helldivers. I hope they continue to keep pushing the story
This video is fantastic, it truly feels like if im in Super Earth analyzing the terminids. You can sense the fear, anguish and frustration of a Research and Development department
this provides a good canon explanation for why the maps are devoid of fauna - helldivers on the bug front are literally being deployed into apocalyptic conditions for anything that doesnt have some sort of air filter, which i assume we have in our helmets
This is a fun thought experiment, but I think we have a few flaws- The bug population was curtailed in the first war, as you should know. A enemy who can truly survive beneath us in their totality in such a way that would prevent ease of access- Well, there'd be bugs everywhere. The ~~Bugs that landed on super earth~~ Colonies that had bugs on them at any point would spiral out of control as, they'd continue to spread. They'd dig deep, burrow in tight, and infest an entire planet's soil. Getting rid of a fictional 40k 'orknoid' population would be easy by comparison. What stops a theoretical rampant terminid presence forever outside of. Cracking the planet open to space. They did. Borrow deep. But not via the spores, hive lords existence in the first galactic war alone should confirm this. But not as deep as 'infects the planet itself with something as small as a spore, initially.' Secondly, there's the fact that the gloom *stops.* It grows, seemingly, at it's own accord. And before the gloom became impenetrable, we've had helldivers fight in. We'll call it "Gloom Lite." With the amount of holes helldivers accrue, in such a spore filled environment. There'd be "medical concerns" on super destroyers. If at minimum, by Eagle 1 and by Pelican 1's flybys. Further, something that merely causes a. "respiratory issue" we'll say, could probably not do the same thing it's doing to Probes. Which is a sudden and inexplicable. Stop. Unless this is a new development of the terminid methodology. Besides. We don't give masks to SEAF forces, and their fine. They're screaming about being torn in half, but that's normal.
I'm not arguing against the potential that my theory may be wrong, as it likely is. It is afterall speculation, but you may have noticed that I explicitly mentioned that "Traitor" in this hypothetical, was exposed to the gloom directly, as a thought experiment. I'm not eluding to the spore being a "end all, be all" exposure item. I'm referring to the potential hazard of the Gloom itself. Additionally, the developers didn't think of everything. There are no masked human models in-game, outside of the Helldivers themselves. This is a design oversight and it is at liberty to be, and not to be, taken literally. Someone in the model department, likely didn't have the whole image of the terminids in mind, not that my theory would have been relevant anyway. It's likely, that spores in small numbers wouldn't mean guaranteed death. The human body is a spectacular biological construct and is very durable, there is the potential for a immunological response to be successful against the inhalation of spores. It's true that spore would hitchhike to other planets on shipments of resources, like how bananas from South America, can have spiders hitchhike, to North America. But this is an advanced space faring civilization that has been dealing and farming the Terminids for over a hundred years. I'm confident their sterilization process is thorough. The Gloom is not understood, it's under some sort of influence it seems. You make valid points and they're all things I have considered and agreed with at a time, but chose to disregard as I don't even think AH is quite sure what they're doing with the Terminids. There is allot of conflicting narratives with the biology on display. I happen to really enjoy the concept of the absolute horror being reeked under the guise of the gloom, something only Liberty and Managed Democracy can cure.
@@1stColonialRegiment That is a fair counterpoint, however as a self replicating mold like thing that seems to have a preference for Warm Lungs, but can spread through *space*... There'd be other evidence. That was the keypoint, but I'll concede that turning the traitors lungs into gloom was justified for the fact that the traitor died at the end all the same. While certainly not *every* Seaf Soldier's corpse would be. There'd be ample chances to show such scenes- Warm, wet places tend to have a fungal vibe and dying under a spore tree- or a more infested spore planet, only to be found later, does seem to fall within their development time, due to, well. Dead SEAF laying around being generally useless, found in nests, etc. There's still unmasked SEAF dead, Or those same places 'made'- but to put aside as you've indicated a willingness to do so as well. Let's say for the sake of argument, democracy protects against...Fungal? Insectoid Infection? It's a very unique idea as a basic premise. There has been planets [admittedly early on before the Gloom stepped forward.] Which were in the gloom cloud, and other sites [Meridia, springs to mind.] Which the spore count was. We'll say "elevated." Further, there's the fact that there's enough spores on certain missions to prevent Map usage, a indication of saturation. I would like to imagine even if the SEAF are immune due to sake of argument, that the planet life generally isn't going to survive for very long in these conditions. As a rule. Egg missions should be more of the norm. Plant life might thrive until Terminids Terraform [What else would you call the more. Mature. Nests? Not to harp on their ability to do so, but it is a frightening ability.] Further, I will grant that they have been changed. Drastically. That was never in question. In fact, I'd argue that the thought experiment would work better in my humble opinion. If this *is* a new development. A, reflection of the Termicide Control Towers if you will. Learned methods on, we'll say an instinctual level. But, it is never the less, an interesting thought study, and I humbly ask that you take nothing I said personally- I put that forward since, we are on the internet and I don't mean to have anything but a intellectual tone. I look forward to more. Though, on the topic of the horrors of a terminid invasion, their spread is at least in part, the spore. And. We'll call it "wild spread" [Planets formerly held suddenly no longer being held, by virtue of bugs climbing out of the ground and instantly flipping.] Has happened before. Local SEAF- perhaps in this case Super Earth's Colonial Guard [SECG] to be exact, couldn't mount a defense to save their own lives. But, if you pardon my usage of this, The developers still enabled the possibility of. Actually, Fighting? The bugs. A gloom scenario were it's, as discussed in your video. I. Don't think can actually be defeated as, evidence in the first comment. All the best all the same.
@@nonya1366 tldr it just looks like the flood but less extreme i think hes right about the spores but its not to the extend of the flood basically a flood mini which is still fucking terrifying
@@reecetaylor2626 Hundred years till it kicked in this time, but only specifically to outside stimuli as closer toward Super Earth, it's reported their less. Mutative. Indicating at least something happening in the outer as opposed to the inner planets. Nevertheless, Terminid Nesting patterns should be drastically different. Meridia springs to mind when you've infected the Air supply with effectively terraforming intent spores on demand. But it's moreover, the problem of stopping the hypothetical Gloom-Tyranny. Fenrir springs to mind, there's been enough dead bugs there, swarming outward from the gloom that the planet would've terraformed itself by whatever clung to the bugs landing and a stray corpse with spores clinging to it for the issue to compound. You already have the problem of a lone bug growing up in an isolated part of a planet, dig down, then hatch an entire brood that crawls out. Unrelated, I wonder if the gloom impedes with engines due to having a similar relation to E-710. So the engines utilizing such fuel would. Well, suddenly 'stop' violently if it's Space E-710. Hypothetical of course.
I feel like In the case of the terminids eggs and spores , they might actually breed the spores underground and that’s the reason we see the eggs on the surface , they might breed a crap ton of spores underground and then once the air down there is so full of spores the pressure build up and a hole appears on the surface that a rush of spore clouds come out of, this can also kinda sort of explain the way bug-holes work maybe???
maybe the terminid eggs are actually E710 fuel sacs that, when they get filled, burst, _warping_ spores into interstellar space. whatever E710 actually is clearly has something to do with FTL technology, as last I checked most oil-based engines today dont create warp bubbles, nor do oil fields create whole nebulae in a matter of weeks.
3:02 Yes, actually. Wasps lay their eggs in clusters, and depending on the species may have them in the open (possibly on hosts, or in the case of paper wasps in very open nests). So we can draw some similarities to wasps :)
As a vet feom the first galactic war, the bugs were more crustacean like, the only crustacean like trait they have left is the spires they leave on infested areas looking like crayfish towers.
Love how this video is framed as sortve an...infographic. Something that would be viewed like a presentation. Completely breaking my "This is heresy, I'm gonna report you to super earth" mold here, I think this is absolutely brilliant. I feel like an actual helldiver viewing some leaked, private information. Sure I'll probably get in trouble for it, but thats what it feels like. I feel like a rulebreaker for watching this video. Therefore, i feel important and part of the story. spectacular video. I'm Subbing!
It is likely that there are, now presently, only a few militarily possible solutions that would still come at tremendous cost, especially long term, and if it'd ultimately work is entirely up in the air. In fact these are likely more extreme solutions than anything that might be pursuable rawly because of the economic output that'd be completely lost in doing so. 1: Solarcidal Assault - Objective: Initiate Stellar Collapse in systems overrun by the Gloom through inducing artificial supernova (likely almost impossible at present) or through the use of similar measures taken against Meridia - the reduction of the planet into (what is presumably) a black hole. - Likely results: Unpredictable consequences in the long term, but presuming this can cause entire star system's worth of Gloom to be pulled inward to these singularities, it'd likely destroy the immediate threat of the Gloom, but this leaves vast amounts of spores in the stellar medium between systems, and will destroy any and all potential productive potential these planets have. Derivative idea: Artificial inducement of solar flares to destroy large swaths of spores with directed blasts of ejected solar mass. 2: Protracted, Long-term liberation campaigns through the use of the DSS and SEAF forces. - Objective: The use of the DSS, and presumably a new weapon system designed to destroy the spores permanently, in conjunction with the SEAF, to liberate worlds one at a time from Terminid control. - Likely results: Long and grinding campaigns of attrition. Every world lost to the gloom is likely entirely, completely unusable now, and resembles the state we found Meridia in. If there is to be any liberation of a planet in such a dire state, it will frankly have to come with the liberal use of nuclear weapons, and frankly, liberation may be out of the question altogether with the virtually insane amount of attrition at play. There would never be enough divers, ships, and SEAF personnel on any one planet to make liberating them feasible without a superweapon at hand, and I don't know if the DSS could really be that weapon, or what weapon system they would come up with that would make this possible to begin with. What works on a planet may not work in the stellar medium. 3: Great Attractor - Objective: If in some way it is possible, pull spores in a localized area into a singular point, and either destroy them, or contain them to destroy them later. - Likely result: Unknown. Must be possible for any potential result to really be clear, but whatever form it takes, it'd need to be able to counter these spores, and whatever entity or property they have that has disabled ships and electronics that have entered the Gloom. 4: Barrier Planets Initiative - Objective: Construct a network of planet-wide shield generators on worlds free or recently liberated, with the objective of preserving the world against the spread of the gloom. - Likely result: If spores are not able to make it through the shield, then in all likelihood, it might be effective enough to resist the Gloom's encroachment and to deny it access to a world. - Inverse: Attack a world, and establish points in orbit that can be used to generate a planetary shield for the sake of containment. Still runs into the issue of the Gloom itself. Would regular automated stations in all likelihood. - Biggest hurdles: Getting to these planets, building the infrastructure, and powering it long-term. Power may not be an issue with access to E-710 reserves of substantial size, but the first issue and the second remain. We have to be able to at least protect a ship from the Gloom, long enough to create a shielded platform that can then project a shield over a hemisphere of a planet. This asumes energy costs are not outright prohibitive, which to be fair, they probably aren't that high if we have manportable shield generators.
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The automatons may be our saving grace. If we can capture and reprogram them they could be the perfect fighting force to take back worlds within the gloom
I have a feeling the Meridia Black Hole isn’t holding anything back but rather the gloom just hasn’t reached it yet and probably will eventually, possibly by the time the DSS is done
Well, the gloom probably wouldn’t be able to hang around the black hole, since all the spores would be sucked in, but I also don’t think anything is stoping the cloud from going around the black hole
Love these deep lore dives bro, easily adds so much depth and layers to getting immersed in the Helldivers 2 Universe. Keep up the Democracy...Managed Democracy
Something about the gloom is definitely certain. Whatever's going on in the gloom, it's not good. The terminids are cooking up something... And when it comes out of that oven, we better be ready
Fleet Admiral Fez of the 501st Lore Divers here. Ive had thoughts about how the bugs reproduce, spore were always the thought. I like your theory or thought that the eggs on the outside of nests were essentially the beginning of Hive in a way. However I dig your idea of them infecting mammals to use their dna and Resorces to feed and produce more. I think the eggs on the outside of the hatchery are guard eggs. Eggs of major importance as they will turn into the smaller guard units. maybe not the tiny ones, but im talking brood commanders and what not. Its my thought that inner nest are for hatching chargers, spewers, titans, even the tiny spewing bugs and regular small bugs. They all come from inside the nest, then exit to grow and protect the nest....just my theory built off of yours.
I think the issue here is that the games have very heavy-handedly eluded that the terminids don't actually travel through space. Super Earth deliberately places terminids on planets, allowing them to take root whether for E-710 farming or so they can perpetuate their puppetshow conflicts. Not to mention, terminids were actually peaceful and friendly towards humanity upon initial contact so I doubt they truly have an interest in killing off all respiring life on any planet they're introduced to.
the gloom could literally just be a little overlay they put on the galactic map instead of an actual field, with the intention being that super earth doesn't want every bug planet liberated just yet. _although_ meridia _did_ need to be sucked into a black hole thanks to some rampant bugging, so maybe the gloom (or at least the threat of the planets within it) really is real.
As a veteran from the first Galactic War, and a biology enthusiast, I sincerely doubt the rapidly galactic wide expanding bugs did not need us humans as a primary source of sustenance for their growth. They simply reproduce too fast to realistically not require feeding off of us. And yes, the bugs were expansionists spreading from solar system to solar system themselves long before we captured them in the 1st War. However they did so, it even allowed them to be a threat to Super Earth ships, and demanded Super Earth to consistently make use of *SAM turrets* against the Bugs.
just one thing i noticed. the terminids have a lot of fungus commonalities. take the spore spewers/shrieker nests for example. they have the obvious mushroom structure with frills in the bottom and are on a stalk but, they also have mycelium around these and outposts you find. also the spore clouds around spore chargers.
"The only way to stop the Gloom is to repeat what we did to Meridia." Ah, the "Kryptmann Strategy". Expensive, but if it stopped the Tyranids, it can stop the Terminids too!
i hear "are we the bad guys" tossed around alot in the helldivers community imma just say this only in the case of automatons in the case of terminids and the illuminate, i think this is more of a lesser of three evils
i think the gloom could MAYBE be harmed by using some kind of electricity-based weaponry-shooting a static shock that arcs from spore to spore and (hopefully) kills each it touches
“This is not what a terminid infestation looks like, it’s worse” That both is intimidating and also makes me feel better knowing that the Super Earth Ministry of Truth is actually making look not so bad to provide us peace of mind
If a black hole is able to stop or slow the gloom from spreading, then hypothetically a strong magnetic or gravitational field could too. We could hypothetically make some sort of sheild system to place around planets at risk of terminid invasion that would prevent or at least minimize spores from landing on the surface even if enveloped by the gloom. We could even place this system on a super destroyer and enter the gloom to deploy cobalt bombs on bug planets to stop the production of more spores.
Bringing up human lungs versus terminid spores reminded me of those grave site POIs that sometimes have a giant grub lodged in a corpse's chest as a Common Sample pickup.
With the spore method of transmission through lungs it's possible that an individual could be frozen in cryo and transmitted to an uninfected world and intentionally/unwillingly cause an outbreak. Scary!
This is an obscure reference but in the Heisei Gamera movies there’s a species of insectoid creatures called Legion that have a similar function: they are aliens that go from planet to planet in a symbiotic relationship with a species of extraterrestrial plant that shoots its seed (😏) into the vacuum of space, seeds which the Legion workers and queen use to transport themselves across the galaxy. Wild stuff but it reminds me of this.
BACK TO SHELT! DSS NEEDS US!
Bro. I have a 6 page short story I wrote of a team of researchers traped in the gloom. No cap.
Still gonna be a reg in the helldiver's DC before I post it
Shelt is occupied, mission complete
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good video, bgm was a bit loud at times
As you walk around the map, you can hear a small explosion and hundreds of tiny insect burst out from the stone. Now imagine that in your lungs.
@@BasicGuy834in the lore, bile Titans are considered small in their home world those earth size bugs might just be triple the size and length
@@BasicGuy834 Sorry for the ambiguity. That's not what I mean 😅. The edited version should make more sense.
you didnt have to say this now i feel weird
This is what happens to people who vape 😔
Maybe that's why helldiver masks always cover your mouth?
Super Earth: "Describe a termind hatchery in one word."
Me: "Undemocratic."
Thats why we bring democracy to them yes?
@@sirneko1278yes
"Heretical"
@@donovanphillips6278but we do not recognize them as citizens with voting rights onece we democraciced them
@@DRGEngineer Heretical is so 1999. Also, obligatory Rock And Stone!
Whatever they made of... it's flammable.
The mature version is. The intergalactic spores... are not
Hey, it's you!
and not immune to *BUCKSHOT*
@@magic1l757 A Dyson laser/maser might disagree with that assessment.
apparently they are made of "element 710" which is OIL upside down. super earth has been farming the terminids for this element 710 for generations, but recently, their populations have exceeded super earth control.
Never forget. They grew Corn on Hellmire.
Or at least something that looked like corn/wheat.
In neat rows.
I refuse to believe the hellmire colonists are all gone. They'd make it.
Corn also grows on Fenrir III, a rocky lonely Moon that doesn't seem to have an ozone layer. Bless the gift of democracy. HELLMIRE STANDS!
FOR THE EMPO- dang it wrong script uhh where’s my…ah here we go. FOR ROCK AND STO- damn it that’s the wrong one again isn’t it uuhhhhhhhh FOR SUPER EARTH there we go
@@Silly_FrogRS Try the cliff note version.
"Stomp bugs!" The universal solvant to uncertainty.
I’m guessing they are grown by that Agriculture company. Their logo pops-up sometimes in those arrow menus in mission.
@@nonya1366 or, if you wanna be confusing: "for the stoned emperor of democracy!"
"Use one word to describe a terminid hatchery."
Me, eating crayons: Orange.
Marine much?
"Cornhole"
Eh .. acceptable
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Another thing that confirms to me that they are carbon based is that, from my understanding, silicon based life simply cannot exist with oxygen in the air, and when we resque civilians they are not wearing any oxygen tanks nor protective suits, implying that the oxygen level in the atmosthere of planets is at least 20%
Another thing is that silicon is pretty dense, if bile titans can exist on varied planets and move at running pace on very high-pressure feet, something absurd to earth-based life, then they must be very light or buoyant in air.
@@catfwish I mean a titan is dwarved by some (very few tbf) dinosaurs we had walking around, so its not impossible and they're quite thin, its not impossible. I think the impaler is way bulkier than a Titan and that thing should not be able to move (nor should his tentacles be able to dig like 150ft in seconds)
@CrazyDutchguys, the only issue is that during the era of the dinosaur there was like triple the oxygen level
It's irrelevant. Oxygen levels only correlate to sizes of invertebrate insects. @@Airsickword
also most helldiver helms are purely physically protective. They aren't sealed, which is why we can get dunked on by gases.
Super Earth needs to build a bunch of Bussard Ramjet probes; magnetically sweep the spores into the intake, ignite with the fusion drive, exhaust harmless spore soot to propel the probe further in.
You're not gonna believe this, but I thought the exact same thing. But that'd be allot of ramjets. The Gloom is weird, and if the map is to be believed, the bugs are somehow projecting a Spore storm so large, it covers a portion of the Galaxy easily.
@@1stColonialRegiment Not too hard if you make it _uncredible_ sparse.
Like, fewer of them by far than hydrogen atoms in interstellar space.
Of course you could have the density a lot higher inside star systems.
Think a dyson swarm, but semi-organic.
Low IQ: "Super Earth are the good guys!"
Mid IQ: "Super Earth is evil! Leave the bugs and bots alone!"
High IQ: "The Helldivers are the good guys."
It’s like Warhammer. There is no good (bar the tau), just a lesser evil.
I mean, the bugs are only a problem because Super Earth farmed and experimented on them for a century, we’re just cleaning up while repeating the same mistake
I think you need to change the low IQ guys with the mid IQ. I will leave you the benefit of the doubt because maybe it was just a mistake but I will still tell my democracy officer about your comment…
What about *Super* High IQ?
@@KillerQueenIRL1618 /Farsight Enclaves
The moment you showed lungs I immediately went: "Oh God I don't like what you're going to mention"
4:49 this would explain why on some planets when you find dead SEAF members by tombstones they have large larva in their chests
I don't think those are Terminds. Those grubs can be found on Automaton planets, so probably a unrelated species
@@emojothejojo OR, humanity is unknowingly spreading the spores to everywhere else they inhabit, and when they die the pustules are just the spores barely making themselves known
@emojothejojo
You can actually find Terminid corpses on Automaton worlds too, sometimes.
The Ministry of truth has passed a law saying all helldivers are required to subscribe to 1st colonel regiment!
Based Ministry of Truth. Trust in our democracy.
Well, I don't wanna be undemocratic
😃😃😃
well, does a reserve helldiver count too?
@@Im_oofman232
I mean, I guess I’ve subscribed and I am in the reserve once they get the Boots on expedition (or BOX aka Xbox)
Going then, hopefully I should be able to enlist
"One single Flood spore can destroy a species."
- Rtas 'Vadum
Wait... wrong franchise...
Were it not for the Arbiter's counsel, he'd have glassed the entire planet.
Thank god tbh, the flood just WIPES anything that’s organic, and if it’s big enough it can wipe inorganic things aswell, they where so dangerous the GALAXY had to be wiped of all life to stop the flood
This quote still holds up to this day.
"Shipmaster, they outnumber us three to one."
"Then it is an even fight."
So the key is to be a smoker...to keep your lungs sterile.
My time has come! 🚬
lol no. One smoke gives you cancer. One smoke prevents it, literally. Guess which is which.
Thanks to lung tissue damage that’d just make the lungs more likely to be wetter than they should be, or have cuts and abrasions for the spores to get inside the rest of you and have an even easier supply of water and nutrients from blood.
No it's more like calling in a constant Orbital Gas Strike on my lungs. No bugs will survive
I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE DAMN VILE BUGS SURVIVE IN ALL THIS TAR AND CASTIC CHEMICALS!! SU-PER EARTH! SU-PER EARTH! SU-PER EARTH! o7
Me on my way to smoke 30 packs of malbaro to protect myself from termini’s spores like a true super-earther.
The scariest part about the gloom for me is that the thing spans LIGHT YEARS across the galaxy
MAKE A FLAMETHROWER THAT BURNS IN SPACE TO BURN THE GLOOM!!!
The concept of fire doesn't work in space, maybe plasmathrower
@@iamb0nk3rs if it makes things burn ITS A FLAME THROWER!
FLAME THROWER IS FLAME THROWER!
Someone contact the writers for the acolyte!
@@calebhebert2733 LMAOOOO
@@iamb0nk3rs use a fuel that contains an oxidizer. Fire is already a plasma.
I'm not one to make accusations, however, if one was to go above Super Earth right now, you can watch some Super Destroyers firing stratagems and dropping divers, implying either invasion attempts, quelling riots, or something even more sinister happening back 'home'...
Super training clearly
That's actually a bug in the game, any planet that's been liberated will still have the combat atmosphere.
@@pyroplays599A BUG??? IN SUPER EARTH'S ORBIT???!!! OUT OF THE QUESTION, DEPLOY THE FLEET!!!!!!!
@I think they fixed that because whenever I go to the planet with the DSS that isn’t happening.
@@MrMafia400 i've seen it happen at the DSS, squadron of super destroyers moving in front of the ship with one of them firing a gatling burst. I think it carries over if you come from a system with active combat
I shudder to imagine what is going on on the dozen-ish planets consumed by the Gloom.. what sort of horrors are we gonna encounter?
The Gloom, and the Supercolony before it, makes me think of a quote that I think accurately sums up the situation:
“Doomsday and Armageddon just had a baby. And it is UGLY”
Based Wreck It Ralph quote. Truly can not imagine what new biology could be cooking in the gloom. Impalers are already highly dangerous, Bile Titans while you're unprepared are extremely lethal, we haven't seen the centipede terminid things yet (forgot their name), what else could come!?
@@BotFisherman Hive lords?
it's just there so bug people play the front
@@catfwish that's it
Don’t worry soldier, Super Earth will prevail.
So your saying terminids are born in the same fashion as xenomorphs only with toxic gas, scary.
Neomorphs?
Thank Liberty, I got so tired of explaining to people "no, Super Earth is not spreading the damn bugs. They could spread on their own in HD1".
Super Earth be sketchy, but we're not quite THAT sketchy.
Super earth IS spreading bugs 100%, they do it publicly even since there are colonies that literaly farm terminids for various resources and mainly petrol/oil. And i have a very strong suspicion the gloom started spreading so much because of what happened with the massive gas towers. Also if theres an undemocratic colony somewhere, why not drop some bugs in the nearest cave to sort em out or maybe drop a vial of gloom spores in one of the houses.
The Gloom is Spores. Spores Are Dense Shelled Organic Components. These Shells Are Usually Able to be Ionized. Charged Particles Embedded in Mass Create a Magnetic Field; That is to Say, Ionized Particles Can be Magnetized. Particles With a Charge (Q Traveling at V) Creates a Magnetic Field. (Q*V). Both The Speed & The Charge of This Energy Can be Created With The FTL Engines. Because E-710 (Oil Based) Engines Create Such Fields. All We Have to do is FTL a Ship With No Movement to Gather The Spores, Then Set a Destination That Would Destroy Them. The Gravitonic Shear is The Main Component in The Equation do to The Alcubierre Distortion Warping Effect (The Amount of Space Moving). We Just Need to Move The Spores to Merida (Not Into Merida) & Merida's Gravity Will Pull Them in on Their Own. It's a Glorious Day for Science!
You should be making videos. Sweet liberty, I never considered using inertia to drag the gloom into the Meridia black hole!
@@1stColonialRegiment Thank You. Also The Fourth Enemy Faction Will be Orcs. It's The Only Common 40K Enemy We Are Not Fighting.
Underrated comment, holy shit. Get Super Earth to call up this guy.
I don‘t understand a Word of what you just said but it sounds very democratic
You should report to the science division and get that implemented, the divers are gonna have enough on their plate with scraping the bugs off of the presently engloomed planets when it's gone.
Dude these are professionally done. Your channel deserves way more attention, keep up the good work.
I got antsy with the Audio which disappointed me, so this means allot. I hope to do better next time! Thank you!
6:33 this aged well
Yeah bright as in, illuminated 😢
0:47 ...i just realized how large that warrior is... that's like twice there actually size. Wow I've been made a fool of propaganda and it took 6 months to see it...wow
Short people
Could be an unusually large specimen.
Even so, while most warriors aren’t that large, you’ll also never just see one like that…
Let’s be honest we always skip the intros
I mean, it's a termanid on super earth. Already a ridiculous thought
@@zombialch3mist Agreed... Now face the wall
we have been the jumping off point for the gambit that is currently happening on SHELT we should take pride in that we have made it possible to not only liberate a planet but to also shut down an attack crippling the Clankers ability to destroy our super weapon. as a new recruit I hope my foresight in this matter may boost me towards a promotion (I do not want one but if its offered I would like to take it).
Congratulations, You are now. SUPER RECRUIT!
Wear this honor with pride.
@@nonya1366 that I will
The Ministry of Communication is cooking nice
Honestly this should end up becoming a lore bit in the game. It adds a dark twist to the termins.
I was in the middle of a mega nest last night when I started thinking about this, glad I'm not the only one wondering
Next step for the spores: Infect humans with spore fungus, rewrite DNA to make them into bugs...and hybrid human/bugs with guns.
At that point they may as well turn into orks from 40k
Bugs with guns would be a neat enemy
*_This_* comment right here, Democracy officer. That's the guy!
Genocult 💀💀💀
Literally the plot of Terraformars
One counter argument to this is that Socorro 3 has a sparse spore cloud over it. If the gloom was as lethal as mentioned, Socorro 3 wouldn't be under our control.
Not to sound treasonus, but this suggests that soon we might have to fight for soccorro.
@@piotrsuracki9470 it's been covered for weeks now
@@piotrsuracki9470 I know this is only for spanish contries but how the translation of that word makes the comment Even worse..
@@Manuel_DubsNot only for spanish countries.
I like that your recent videos have expanded on Helldivers lore a bit. When you look at the absolutely insane amount of lore in the 40k universe, there's a lot of potential with Helldivers. I hope they continue to keep pushing the story
This video is fantastic, it truly feels like if im in Super Earth analyzing the terminids. You can sense the fear, anguish and frustration of a Research and Development department
WHY DONT WE JUST TAKE SUPER EARTH, AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE?!
WELL WHY DONT YOU TAKE A CRACK AT IT SMART GUY!!
In helldiver 1 if super earth falls we just evacuate and take a new planet
We cant move a whole planet,even if we did,citizens would probably die during the process
It would just end up being a complete waste of resources.
That's what happens in HD1 if you lose the war (Super Earth explodes and humanity has to find a new planet to call home).
Again, we need to look towards physical irritants to deal with the terminids, not chemical.
Or simply burn them all
Yeah, I got their 'physical irritants' 𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 *Holds up Liberator*
The only physical irritants I recommend is lead, lead, and more lead.
@@1stColonialRegiment What about Depleted Uranium, it has better armor piercing!
@@Reahreic expensive (probably idk)
I guess you can say things currently look a bit gloomy 🥁🥁🥁
*sighs* ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
you've made me do this
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this provides a good canon explanation for why the maps are devoid of fauna - helldivers on the bug front are literally being deployed into apocalyptic conditions for anything that doesnt have some sort of air filter, which i assume we have in our helmets
This is a fun thought experiment, but I think we have a few flaws-
The bug population was curtailed in the first war, as you should know. A enemy who can truly survive beneath us in their totality in such a way that would prevent ease of access-
Well, there'd be bugs everywhere. The ~~Bugs that landed on super earth~~ Colonies that had bugs on them at any point would spiral out of control as, they'd continue to spread. They'd dig deep, burrow in tight, and infest an entire planet's soil. Getting rid of a fictional 40k 'orknoid' population would be easy by comparison. What stops a theoretical rampant terminid presence forever outside of. Cracking the planet open to space.
They did. Borrow deep. But not via the spores, hive lords existence in the first galactic war alone should confirm this.
But not as deep as 'infects the planet itself with something as small as a spore, initially.'
Secondly, there's the fact that the gloom *stops.* It grows, seemingly, at it's own accord. And before the gloom became impenetrable, we've had helldivers fight in. We'll call it "Gloom Lite."
With the amount of holes helldivers accrue, in such a spore filled environment. There'd be "medical concerns" on super destroyers. If at minimum, by Eagle 1 and by Pelican 1's flybys.
Further, something that merely causes a. "respiratory issue" we'll say, could probably not do the same thing it's doing to Probes. Which is a sudden and inexplicable. Stop.
Unless this is a new development of the terminid methodology.
Besides. We don't give masks to SEAF forces, and their fine. They're screaming about being torn in half, but that's normal.
I'm not arguing against the potential that my theory may be wrong, as it likely is. It is afterall speculation, but you may have noticed that I explicitly mentioned that "Traitor" in this hypothetical, was exposed to the gloom directly, as a thought experiment. I'm not eluding to the spore being a "end all, be all" exposure item. I'm referring to the potential hazard of the Gloom itself.
Additionally, the developers didn't think of everything. There are no masked human models in-game, outside of the Helldivers themselves. This is a design oversight and it is at liberty to be, and not to be, taken literally. Someone in the model department, likely didn't have the whole image of the terminids in mind, not that my theory would have been relevant anyway.
It's likely, that spores in small numbers wouldn't mean guaranteed death. The human body is a spectacular biological construct and is very durable, there is the potential for a immunological response to be successful against the inhalation of spores. It's true that spore would hitchhike to other planets on shipments of resources, like how bananas from South America, can have spiders hitchhike, to North America. But this is an advanced space faring civilization that has been dealing and farming the Terminids for over a hundred years. I'm confident their sterilization process is thorough.
The Gloom is not understood, it's under some sort of influence it seems. You make valid points and they're all things I have considered and agreed with at a time, but chose to disregard as I don't even think AH is quite sure what they're doing with the Terminids. There is allot of conflicting narratives with the biology on display. I happen to really enjoy the concept of the absolute horror being reeked under the guise of the gloom, something only Liberty and Managed Democracy can cure.
@@1stColonialRegiment
That is a fair counterpoint, however as a self replicating mold like thing that seems to have a preference for Warm Lungs, but can spread through *space*...
There'd be other evidence. That was the keypoint, but I'll concede that turning the traitors lungs into gloom was justified for the fact that the traitor died at the end all the same.
While certainly not *every* Seaf Soldier's corpse would be. There'd be ample chances to show such scenes- Warm, wet places tend to have a fungal vibe and dying under a spore tree- or a more infested spore planet, only to be found later, does seem to fall within their development time, due to, well. Dead SEAF laying around being generally useless, found in nests, etc.
There's still unmasked SEAF dead, Or those same places 'made'- but to put aside as you've indicated a willingness to do so as well.
Let's say for the sake of argument, democracy protects against...Fungal? Insectoid Infection? It's a very unique idea as a basic premise.
There has been planets [admittedly early on before the Gloom stepped forward.] Which were in the gloom cloud, and other sites [Meridia, springs to mind.] Which the spore count was. We'll say "elevated."
Further, there's the fact that there's enough spores on certain missions to prevent Map usage, a indication of saturation.
I would like to imagine even if the SEAF are immune due to sake of argument, that the planet life generally isn't going to survive for very long in these conditions. As a rule. Egg missions should be more of the norm.
Plant life might thrive until Terminids Terraform [What else would you call the more. Mature. Nests? Not to harp on their ability to do so, but it is a frightening ability.]
Further, I will grant that they have been changed. Drastically. That was never in question. In fact, I'd argue that the thought experiment would work better in my humble opinion. If this *is* a new development.
A, reflection of the Termicide Control Towers if you will. Learned methods on, we'll say an instinctual level.
But, it is never the less, an interesting thought study, and I humbly ask that you take nothing I said personally- I put that forward since, we are on the internet and I don't mean to have anything but a intellectual tone.
I look forward to more.
Though, on the topic of the horrors of a terminid invasion, their spread is at least in part, the spore. And. We'll call it "wild spread" [Planets formerly held suddenly no longer being held, by virtue of bugs climbing out of the ground and instantly flipping.] Has happened before.
Local SEAF- perhaps in this case Super Earth's Colonial Guard [SECG] to be exact, couldn't mount a defense to save their own lives.
But, if you pardon my usage of this, The developers still enabled the possibility of. Actually, Fighting? The bugs.
A gloom scenario were it's, as discussed in your video. I. Don't think can actually be defeated as, evidence in the first comment.
All the best all the same.
@@nonya1366 tldr it just looks like the flood but less extreme
i think hes right about the spores but its not to the extend of the flood
basically a flood mini
which is still fucking terrifying
consider the terminids have an accelerated rate of adaptation and mutation.
@@reecetaylor2626 Hundred years till it kicked in this time, but only specifically to outside stimuli as closer toward Super Earth, it's reported their less. Mutative. Indicating at least something happening in the outer as opposed to the inner planets.
Nevertheless, Terminid Nesting patterns should be drastically different. Meridia springs to mind when you've infected the Air supply with effectively terraforming intent spores on demand.
But it's moreover, the problem of stopping the hypothetical Gloom-Tyranny. Fenrir springs to mind, there's been enough dead bugs there, swarming outward from the gloom that the planet would've terraformed itself by whatever clung to the bugs landing and a stray corpse with spores clinging to it for the issue to compound.
You already have the problem of a lone bug growing up in an isolated part of a planet, dig down, then hatch an entire brood that crawls out.
Unrelated, I wonder if the gloom impedes with engines due to having a similar relation to E-710. So the engines utilizing such fuel would. Well, suddenly 'stop' violently if it's Space E-710. Hypothetical of course.
Good thing our glorious Helldivers are there to push back against this horrific threat. For Super Earth!
I feel like In the case of the terminids eggs and spores , they might actually breed the spores underground and that’s the reason we see the eggs on the surface , they might breed a crap ton of spores underground and then once the air down there is so full of spores the pressure build up and a hole appears on the surface that a rush of spore clouds come out of, this can also kinda sort of explain the way bug-holes work maybe???
maybe the terminid eggs are actually E710 fuel sacs that, when they get filled, burst, _warping_ spores into interstellar space.
whatever E710 actually is clearly has something to do with FTL technology, as last I checked most oil-based engines today dont create warp bubbles, nor do oil fields create whole nebulae in a matter of weeks.
3:02 Yes, actually. Wasps lay their eggs in clusters, and depending on the species may have them in the open (possibly on hosts, or in the case of paper wasps in very open nests).
So we can draw some similarities to wasps :)
This proves Terminids are still bugs.
And bugs can be squished under the mighty boot of DEMOCRACY.
0:19 greatest recruitment advertisement I ever seen. FOR DEMOCRACY
As a vet feom the first galactic war, the bugs were more crustacean like, the only crustacean like trait they have left is the spires they leave on infested areas looking like crayfish towers.
The Gloom is result of all those kill orders on bugs.
Feels like it yeah, the harder we push against the bugs the harder they push back
This was aweesome to listen to, I feel like a specialized Helldiver getting a briefing on the state of affairs.
Good thing we wear filtered helmets.
I about threw my phone down when the slide with human lungs appeared on screen, well done giving me the ick
honestly didn't expect a serious video. a welcome change for this game.
2:50 Yes, there are a plethora of insects that lay clusters of eggs on leaves or other surfaces basically totally exposed.
if terminids were silicon based, it would be funny as fuck to see them turn into sand when you torch them lol
What? That isn’t how that would work.
found this in my recommended today and i just wanna let u know this was a TREAT. so fun to watch! keep it up
Now imagine a cinematic of a planet consumed by the gloom and the planetary guard is trying to keep the infection from spreading too rapendly
Love how this video is framed as sortve an...infographic. Something that would be viewed like a presentation.
Completely breaking my "This is heresy, I'm gonna report you to super earth" mold here, I think this is absolutely brilliant. I feel like an actual helldiver viewing some leaked, private information. Sure I'll probably get in trouble for it, but thats what it feels like. I feel like a rulebreaker for watching this video. Therefore, i feel important and part of the story.
spectacular video. I'm Subbing!
It is likely that there are, now presently, only a few militarily possible solutions that would still come at tremendous cost, especially long term, and if it'd ultimately work is entirely up in the air. In fact these are likely more extreme solutions than anything that might be pursuable rawly because of the economic output that'd be completely lost in doing so.
1: Solarcidal Assault
- Objective: Initiate Stellar Collapse in systems overrun by the Gloom through inducing artificial supernova (likely almost impossible at present) or through the use of similar measures taken against Meridia - the reduction of the planet into (what is presumably) a black hole.
- Likely results: Unpredictable consequences in the long term, but presuming this can cause entire star system's worth of Gloom to be pulled inward to these singularities, it'd likely destroy the immediate threat of the Gloom, but this leaves vast amounts of spores in the stellar medium between systems, and will destroy any and all potential productive potential these planets have.
Derivative idea: Artificial inducement of solar flares to destroy large swaths of spores with directed blasts of ejected solar mass.
2: Protracted, Long-term liberation campaigns through the use of the DSS and SEAF forces.
- Objective: The use of the DSS, and presumably a new weapon system designed to destroy the spores permanently, in conjunction with the SEAF, to liberate worlds one at a time from Terminid control.
- Likely results: Long and grinding campaigns of attrition. Every world lost to the gloom is likely entirely, completely unusable now, and resembles the state we found Meridia in. If there is to be any liberation of a planet in such a dire state, it will frankly have to come with the liberal use of nuclear weapons, and frankly, liberation may be out of the question altogether with the virtually insane amount of attrition at play. There would never be enough divers, ships, and SEAF personnel on any one planet to make liberating them feasible without a superweapon at hand, and I don't know if the DSS could really be that weapon, or what weapon system they would come up with that would make this possible to begin with. What works on a planet may not work in the stellar medium.
3: Great Attractor
- Objective: If in some way it is possible, pull spores in a localized area into a singular point, and either destroy them, or contain them to destroy them later.
- Likely result:
Unknown. Must be possible for any potential result to really be clear, but whatever form it takes, it'd need to be able to counter these spores, and whatever entity or property they have that has disabled ships and electronics that have entered the Gloom.
4: Barrier Planets Initiative
- Objective: Construct a network of planet-wide shield generators on worlds free or recently liberated, with the objective of preserving the world against the spread of the gloom.
- Likely result: If spores are not able to make it through the shield, then in all likelihood, it might be effective enough to resist the Gloom's encroachment and to deny it access to a world.
- Inverse:
Attack a world, and establish points in orbit that can be used to generate a planetary shield for the sake of containment. Still runs into the issue of the Gloom itself. Would regular automated stations in all likelihood.
- Biggest hurdles:
Getting to these planets, building the infrastructure, and powering it long-term.
Power may not be an issue with access to E-710 reserves of substantial size, but the first issue and the second remain. We have to be able to at least protect a ship from the Gloom, long enough to create a shielded platform that can then project a shield over a hemisphere of a planet. This asumes energy costs are not outright prohibitive, which to be fair, they probably aren't that high if we have manportable shield generators.
This channel needs more attention this is awesome
The 101st understands your research and shall take it into consideration when moving forward with our operations. Godspeed Helldiver!
- A Specialist from the 101st
You really do make quality videos man
The terminids: Peace :D
Super Earth: No
The terminids: >:(
This channel is so underrated. Thai vid was amazing
This is actually really well made! Great job!
i could watch these all day
The automatons may be our saving grace. If we can capture and reprogram them they could be the perfect fighting force to take back worlds within the gloom
I'm speechless, this is a very good video
People also forget the gloom is a mega nubebula spanning multiple lightyears and expanding faster thsn the speed of light
this is an interesting theory definitely. I'm glad more people are interested in the lore of this game
As one of the first scientists in the ministry I am glad to see that others have taken up the work I left after psn
Something like the molecular disruption device (from Ender's Game) would work to destroy the gloom, if Super Earth can invent something like that.
1:30 my God....(Takes off helldiver's helmet)
So what you're telling me is the bugs are a flood adjacent existential threat.
I have a feeling the Meridia Black Hole isn’t holding anything back but rather the gloom just hasn’t reached it yet and probably will eventually, possibly by the time the DSS is done
Well, the gloom probably wouldn’t be able to hang around the black hole, since all the spores would be sucked in, but I also don’t think anything is stoping the cloud from going around the black hole
Love these deep lore dives bro, easily adds so much depth and layers to getting immersed in the Helldivers 2 Universe. Keep up the Democracy...Managed Democracy
Something about the gloom is definitely certain. Whatever's going on in the gloom, it's not good.
The terminids are cooking up something... And when it comes out of that oven, we better be ready
Fleet Admiral Fez of the 501st Lore Divers here. Ive had thoughts about how the bugs reproduce, spore were always the thought. I like your theory or thought that the eggs on the outside of nests were essentially the beginning of Hive in a way. However I dig your idea of them infecting mammals to use their dna and Resorces to feed and produce more.
I think the eggs on the outside of the hatchery are guard eggs. Eggs of major importance as they will turn into the smaller guard units. maybe not the tiny ones, but im talking brood commanders and what not. Its my thought that inner nest are for hatching chargers, spewers, titans, even the tiny spewing bugs and regular small bugs. They all come from inside the nest, then exit to grow and protect the nest....just my theory built off of yours.
They provide oil for us and that's all I need to know
The ministry of science turned my wife into oil
@WoodbabyCYL super earth can do no wrong
I think the issue here is that the games have very heavy-handedly eluded that the terminids don't actually travel through space. Super Earth deliberately places terminids on planets, allowing them to take root whether for E-710 farming or so they can perpetuate their puppetshow conflicts. Not to mention, terminids were actually peaceful and friendly towards humanity upon initial contact so I doubt they truly have an interest in killing off all respiring life on any planet they're introduced to.
The Gloom: am i a joke to you?
the gloom could literally just be a little overlay they put on the galactic map instead of an actual field, with the intention being that super earth doesn't want every bug planet liberated just yet.
_although_ meridia _did_ need to be sucked into a black hole thanks to some rampant bugging, so maybe the gloom (or at least the threat of the planets within it) really is real.
@@DWal32 But we know the Gloom is real? we know what it looks like in the tv broadcast, just a very big spore cloud.
@@DWal32 Also, remember the skycraper sized spore tower? the Gloom probably came from those things.
As a veteran from the first Galactic War, and a biology enthusiast, I sincerely doubt the rapidly galactic wide expanding bugs did not need us humans as a primary source of sustenance for their growth. They simply reproduce too fast to realistically not require feeding off of us.
And yes, the bugs were expansionists spreading from solar system to solar system themselves long before we captured them in the 1st War. However they did so, it even allowed them to be a threat to Super Earth ships, and demanded
Super Earth to consistently make use of *SAM turrets* against the Bugs.
every terminid infested hive like area looks like a meteor crash site. Raised rocks, burned ground.
they could be using meteors with spores in them, similar to the bugs in starship troopers shooting meteors
Great video keep up the awesome content coming
just one thing i noticed. the terminids have a lot of fungus commonalities. take the spore spewers/shrieker nests for example. they have the obvious mushroom structure with frills in the bottom and are on a stalk but, they also have mycelium around these and outposts you find. also the spore clouds around spore chargers.
lol the opening is hilarious; divers walking down the street as this just happens.
"this is fine".
Time to turn half the galaxy into a black hole :D
There is a medium armor set in the gas warbond that mentions it’s use in researching the gloom, this might be useful.
The Gloom! Its coming!
In the mist reference?
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"The only way to stop the Gloom is to repeat what we did to Meridia."
Ah, the "Kryptmann Strategy". Expensive, but if it stopped the Tyranids, it can stop the Terminids too!
i hear "are we the bad guys" tossed around alot in the helldivers community
imma just say this
only in the case of automatons
in the case of terminids and the illuminate, i think this is more of a lesser of three evils
How have i missed this channel?! So awesome
Your voice has all the delivery qualities of a seventeen year old youtuber describing a conspiracy theory.
This is amazing content. I love it. Subscribed.
i think the gloom could MAYBE be harmed by using some kind of electricity-based weaponry-shooting a static shock that arcs from spore to spore and (hopefully) kills each it touches
"How would you describe a Terminid Hatchery in one word?"
*"Hell."*
“This is not what a terminid infestation looks like, it’s worse”
That both is intimidating and also makes me feel better knowing that the Super Earth Ministry of Truth is actually making look not so bad to provide us peace of mind
If a black hole is able to stop or slow the gloom from spreading, then hypothetically a strong magnetic or gravitational field could too. We could hypothetically make some sort of sheild system to place around planets at risk of terminid invasion that would prevent or at least minimize spores from landing on the surface even if enveloped by the gloom. We could even place this system on a super destroyer and enter the gloom to deploy cobalt bombs on bug planets to stop the production of more spores.
Bringing up human lungs versus terminid spores reminded me of those grave site POIs that sometimes have a giant grub lodged in a corpse's chest as a Common Sample pickup.
i will keep supporting you out there, wherever a planet needs help.
"Describe a hatchery in one word."
First one coming to mind: horrible.
The second was bloody.
So the bugs could be mushrooms? They spread through spores like mushrooms they could be something like the orks from 40k.
You deserve so many more subs. Keep it up dude
Watching these videos make me feel like the conflict is real and I just got recruited into some military after buying the game LOL
With the spore method of transmission through lungs it's possible that an individual could be frozen in cryo and transmitted to an uninfected world and intentionally/unwillingly cause an outbreak. Scary!
Just found this channel, I love this style of videos. Please keep going bro! I am definitely subscribing. ❤️
This is an obscure reference but in the Heisei Gamera movies there’s a species of insectoid creatures called Legion that have a similar function: they are aliens that go from planet to planet in a symbiotic relationship with a species of extraterrestrial plant that shoots its seed (😏) into the vacuum of space, seeds which the Legion workers and queen use to transport themselves across the galaxy. Wild stuff but it reminds me of this.
These bugs need to taste some freedom 🔥
loud ass ambience