Better Upscaling With Reality Creation on Your Sony TV
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- Taking a look at Sony’s Reality Creation Engine specifically how it is implemented on the TVs with the XR processor like the Sony A80J OLED, Sony A90J OLED, Sony X95J LCD , and Sony X90J LCD. Think you know reality creation, well its different this year with the XR chip taking full advantage of their AI Deep Learning Database. We talk about it in this video!
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Looking for my full Sony settings that utilizes Reality Creation to its full potential 👀 th-cam.com/video/f2iRJY_winM/w-d-xo.html
Great video KG, looks very good and liked the talking head parts 👍
@@ClassyTechCalibrations thanks bro!
Thank you that’s good to hear, that was honestly the goal of this video I didn’t want to complicate or confuse anyone too much.
What's amazing is that you're the only person who has done a video and showed this feature. Everyone else talks about calibration, brightness, vertical bars, munchkins, this, that.
But incidentally, they forget to mention that the picture quality of the Sony for low to medium quality content is night and day thanks to Reality Creation. It's a game changer - literally a game changer. I have a Xbox One and recently played Avengers with Reality Creation On and Off and the difference is nothing short of stunning. One's playable, the other is a blurrathon.
If you have a PS4, it bumps the picture to a PS4 Pro something I personally noticed with Ghosts of Tsushima. My image had so much detail that it looked like the PS4 Pro version.
You read my mind the a8h was the first TV to blow my mind with that and I now purchased the 83inch a90j and I look for it in every scene.
Man, you are an Alchemist... I was already finding the A80J a TV from another world, you came to say .... that it really is from another world. hug thank you very much.
Big huge from Lisbon, Portugal
Bought the A80J coming from an LG C8. I am amazed with the picture every time I watch a movie.
I'm agree with you KG, i love that crispy looking picture
From my experience with reality creation, I only have a led backlit Sony, I crank that thing up to 100% on manual mode and OMG the pictures are gorgeous. Perhaps since my professor is older it's not as intense or as sophisticated as the newer ones, but watching marvel movies with the reality creation on max just makes it look so damn impressive.
Have a Sony A95K and my god hasReality creation improved picture quality. The biggest example is when playing GTA IV on PS3. It not only drastically improves picture quality and sharpness but removes every single bit of blurriness like magic. Anyone who’s ever played GTA IV on a PS3 knows it looks awful but with reality creation it actually makes it look just under 4K. Pair it with an Mclassic (a HDMI upscaler) to remove jaggies and upscale the entire image and you get a damn near perfect picture.
Thanks for this. You explained reality creation in a way that anyone can understand
Glad you think so! That was my focus so I am really happy to hear you say this!
Finally! Took me a while but this was the video I was searching for! I kept reading/seeing reviews about how the new cognitive processor does a really good job with upscaling, but other video reviewers don't really go into the details/settings about it very much. They usually turn off reality creation as "a principle", which I think misses out on the point of what Sony is implementing here.
Just to follow-up! As someone who doesn't want to play around with this setting for different sources of content, would you say I'm better off just leaving it on Auto compared to Off, or is there a manual setting that might be best compared to Auto across all content (like the default 20)?
@@zanfear Glad to hear you found something that helps! I would say for that yeah auto is your best bet.
@@TechWithKG Thanks for the reply!
Great video, very informative. Thanks!
I did try going up as high as 45 for HD and lower sources, but I found that it led to occasional artefacts around the edges of moving objects (people walking round, long thin objects like swords, pikes silhouetted against the sky). Currently running at 33 which seems pretty good.
Wow had no idea 😳 thanks you gonna take a look on to this !
Thank you very much for this information! I recently purchased a Sony 65" A80K and was disappointed with the upscaling of the picture from Spectrum, but after applying Reality Creation the picture is awesome! Thanks again. Please keep your videos coming.
I have the X90K what setting did you use?
@@croozer30ify Sorry I don't remember, I took the A80K back and bought the 77" LG C2.
Great description. Another helpful video! Been looking for this video since i watched your last video. I am not at home until Thursday but wonder how this will work with dvds. Like the langoliers was never released in 1080p. I tried it before but never on dvds. Curious :)
I use this all the time for pc gaming especially if I can't get 4k 60.
If I have to create a slightly lower resolution to keep 60 fps like 1800p for example.
I just crank this setting up a little higher and it looks native 4k
It's no nvidia dlss, but it's still really damn impressive
@Tech With KG
Great and informative video!
What year was the Reality Creation setting first incorporated on Sony TV settings?
I don’t remember seeing this setting on the Sony Z9G?
So the Reality Creation setting was there before, but last year (2021) was the first year the XR processor used the AI algorithm?
Thanks a lot and keep up the great work!
This was extremely helpful and easy to understand. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for making a video about it =) cheers
Awesome video KG !
I think I'm going to try this at a higher setting on live college football games , my 4K broadcasts are awesome but ESPN throws a lot of it out there at 720P and after watching 4k , well you know what I mean LOL
I am glad that you can see the difference between the Sony TVs and from other brands! If you want a best tv it have to be clarity first, secondly the color accuracy then pictures shadow detail coming third…. Sony beat them all and remember if you don’t have enough brightness you can’t see all the shadow details because the picture colors are crush I don’t like when the colors of tv pictures start to blended together. When you see screen like to blue or too green it is not color accuracy they have to be separate colors from each other! Only in video games it’s ok to see colors crush we call it animated pictures but not ok in the realistic images!
Gotta say this is amazing.
I tried running AC origin in 4K without reality recreation vs 1440p with it set to 70%. They look pretty much identical and the fps is boosted by 50% with 1440p and reality recreation
Nice video talking about this, I normally like creators intent but will give this a try when get a Sony can't hurt to test :)
Great video explaining what it does!
Thanks!
I use this from first day on my tv. Set 33 > 45 on manual or auto sometime .
With X1 extream chip.🔝
And is bomb function. 😊
With XR chip on this video is even more powerful.
Thanks for good video.
Thanks for sharing your setting for X1 Extreme users.
Spot on. Let the TV do it’s thing. I’m all about accuracy. But when I took the cuffs off and tried all the options on Cobra Kai on Netflix, artist intent vs what I could produce was so different, especially in Dolby Vision.
I found the reality creation to be perfectly unobtrusive on that show at 33 - about a 3rd power. But like you said, when I played a Dolby Vision based show, I was able to take it to around 69 before noticing busyness on my 77” a80j.
The final kicker was playing with contrast enhancer. Yes, it still looks good on Off. But when set to Medium with the Luminance level still to Bright - Holy Bejesus - The TV came alive 😍.
This was also true when gaming with the contrast enhancer set to Medium. It brings the low-to-mid level highlights up a TON.
Sure it may not be “accurate”, but my eyes 👀 DID NOT CARE. Let the TV’s technology do it’s thing man.
Very cool to hear about your experience! A lot of reviewers don't go into the cognitive processor as much and just leave it off as "a principle", so I'm glad it's getting discussed here. As someone who doesn't want to play around with this setting for different sources of content, would you say I'm better off just leaving it on Auto compared to Off, or is there a manual setting that might be best compared to Auto across all content (like the default 20)?
@@zanfear Great question! I left mine at the manual setting at 40 but left it on auto & forgot about it, unless I wanted to play around. So I’d say Auto is best. But set the manual to your preferred sweetspot before going auto, my recommendation
@@senseisprotege3632 Sounds good, thanks!
@@senseisprotege3632 would 40 be good for 1080p content and lower? Or should I bump it up a bit then set it on auto?
@@corekidkyle7028 40 is an excellent range for SD in my experience 👍🏽. Leave it on auto, if it feels too soft, kick to manual for an immediate difference 😉
Good timing with the video just got the A80J so this is some useful info for me 😃👍🏻
Awesome congrats!
@@TechWithKG this setting is really helping with blurry 1080p content I'm putting the setting way up to like 70 lol. Thanks so much for posting this video I wouldn't know what it's all about if I didn't see this! Still trying to get used to this film grain got noise reduction on high at the moment 🤔
Didn't even know this was a thing, I love this type of effect, selected my monitor on behalf of such a feature (samsung magic upscale) because it made text and images clearer
Reality creation is a game changer for me and its the one feature that stopped me from switching brands when I went from a Sony z9f to an a9g. Was going to get a Samsung but couldn't do it.
I love my SONY VW1000 (since 2013) with reality creation option
Checked it out on the XH950 85" inch that i still have, it works great mate! What do you recommend for 1080p set it manual to 50, and for 4k auto?
The description says it uses ‘super resolution’. I wonder if that is identical to FSR which is for AMD pc feature. If so, I am so hyped because FSR do make games look much sharper and clearer even on games with low resolution. I use that on Yuzu nintendo switch emulator and they look incredible.
Great video thx, regarding the stars scene what if Sony's reality feature is just adding more stars within the field and not revealing lost content? I am also confused by other popular tv calibrators suggesting Sony's reality feature does not do much on 4K hdr content but your video shows different.
Just ordered a 77" A80J (and A90J remote). I do blue-ray and streaming, not much gaming, and some of my streaming is as low as 720/1080. The XR processor and Reality Creation sold it to me over a C1/G1. Will check out your settings vid next.
where did you order the "real" not fake A90J remote from? I looked online but all the sources were copy cats not real ones
Will you test the Sony z9j for gaming on the ps5?
This seems cool and all but could you tell me if it will bring back lost details?
Hello, I have a question about X90J and QN90A, which is more better? Use in Netflix and PS5. Is QN90A color tend to warmer tones?
I would love to see an update to this video utilizing the new clear image technology Sony has.
Guys, we all need to understende that Sony is a company with story like no other! Its by far one or the best of this year!
This setting is amazing on the Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series S
What makes Sony TVs so special and hard to beat the answer is the XR, X1 Ultimate, X1 Extreme, X1..... etc, Sony is doing it like no other
Agreed. It's almost like their decades of digital image processing experience (cameras!) sets them apart from other manufacturers.
@@inthesand absolutely
Is it fair to say the XR is the top of the line processor right now for Sony?
@@stevenrodriguez9655 I think so
Definitely.
I've just changed from a CX to X95H and besides the OLED pure black the Sony processing kills it
Night and day, especially the upscaling
so picture looks better on A80j vs C1?
wow I thought it was mostly sharpening and contrast(kind of the same thing really) but the addition of new stars is shocking. that seems to indicate its looking for details that aren't really visible to the human eye and bringing them out, so perhaps there were a couple lighter pixels there and it turned them into fully visible stars? I don't know, that's pretty crazy though.
Agreed, I was shocked!
How do I get your calibration settings for my Sony TV
Very helpful. Should we be setting this back to off/low when playing true 4k HDR content?
I think leaving it on auto is the best bet as even in 4K content you can deal with lower resolution content whether that’s low quality assets or streaming issues, the algorithm works really well and will only apply edge enhancements to things that fit the criteria rather than the whole picture, I really don’t know how it dictates what gets touched up but it works really great.
How is it compared to nvidia upscaling?
Theres this setting thst kets you switch to basic upscalling or ai upscalling do you where it is
It's exactly the same the nvidia shield tv 2019 is doing with the AI-upscaling
Thx for the video
Actually those are fairly different however they both work very well together.
Thanks, like Classy said it’s a bit different but he did say combining the two works well so if you got both try it.
Hey KG - I also use on my Sony A80J RC at manual 40-50 with 1080p and 720p content and auto for 4K content.
Excellent results far superior to using regular sharpness setting!
If you just wanna turn it in and leave it, what setting would you leave it in?
@@tracer073 auto is a good set and forget it or manual at 20. If you want more effect to it bump it up by 10 or 20.
Yeah same, in some instances I’d throw it on manual 50 for 4K as well but it was so content dependent
@@tracer073 yeah I usually set it around 30 it's just right there imo
I cannot express what a game changer Reality Creation is even on a 2014 Sony TV.
I own a 2014 Sony 1080P and I was playing Avengers on Xbox One. When I watch videos of Xbox One gameplay it looks blurry (even on a 4k feed and display) but I noticed that I didn't mind the Xbox One as much when I played games on it like Forza Horizon or Quantum Break. I found out the reason why. My TV has Reality Creation - when I turn it off, the Xbox One becomes blurry and unplayable. I turn Reality Creation and boom it transforms the picture.
I have a PS4 and I've always thought it looks like a PS4 Pro especially after watching all the comparison videos from Digital Foundry, IGN, GameCandy. My PS4 does actually produce a PS4 Pro picture, thanks to Reality Creation. I can't tell the difference between a PS4 Pro on another TV and my PS4 on my Sony.
It adds so much detail that I can clearly notice it on a 55 inch from 11.5 feet away. Up close, the added detail is incredible.
It's really DLSS for TVs, only it works on everything.
This is reason why I’m sticking with Sony, tried LG and Samsung because supposedly they’re better specs for input lag on paper. Just picked the A95K with reality creation on, its an absolute monster and transformed gaming on my PS5. It’s like I have the PS5 pro w/o even it being released yet, I’m never switching brands again 😂
@@beammeupscottsp7952 I'm gaming on my ps5 with the X90K. Reality creation is truly a game changer. I wouldn't game without it now. But with that said, the ps5 pro will do wonders for games like Star Wars Jedi Survivor or Final Fantasy 16 which have a performance mode that isn't at a locked 60fps.
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 yeah it definitely helps sub 4K content on consoles if you want to run games 60 fps. Haven’t played Jedi survivor and just got thru the demo on final fantasy, the only game turned off reality creation was forbidden west, I don’t know how that made that game looked so good at 60 fps on consoles.
@@beammeupscottsp7952 Horizon's engine is the same one that Hideo Kojima used for Death Stranding. That engine is one of the best in the entire industry.
@@fall-neckthetallneck2977 yeah maybe everyone should just stick with that engine haha
His it on when on auto or do I have to change it to manual I just got the A95k
Hey brotha I know you sre all about depth with these tvs. I also believe you sre like me where you like that and don't mind losing a bit of brightness for it. If you can on the a80j or a90j. You should really try out dolby dark with gradation rpeff3red turned on. I've never ever experienced such a deep rich beautiful image lime this before. Thw a90j still boosts those highlights also but the depth retained is intense man. I've found I really enjoy using gradation on the Sony a90j even with dolby vision of course it isn't correct. But it's so good even in dolby bright using grdations prrffered is amazing. I know black adjust doesn't do as much to dolby vision as the content is much more of a standard but I'll sometimes put it on high while using dolby bright with gradation preffered and that is just so beautiful man. These tvs versatility are on another level. This is the biggest difference for me. 90 percent of the people using these tvs won't be using them as accurate as they can. That's just how it is and some may not admit it but they use live color and stuff while using there own set. As long as you like it thats what matters. My thing is turning live color on low makes it looks so similiar to lg out of the box so both won't be perfectly accurate as lg does oversaturate a hit out of the box. So if you like that the sony can do it. It can actually surpass the lg in color with just love color alone. I see alot of people using native color space in there lg and I'm like then you would need to force a color space on the Sony to do the same. So it cna do it and it can do it pretty intensely. Like Adobe rgb is intense with color haha.. All what you like and prefer. For me and a consumer that is OK with messing with settings they would be in for a treat with these tvs. I see to many people just turning on the set or other sets and not adjusting anything. You should really do a video explaining the settings man in depth. Even show about changing color space and Live color. Just so people know it's there.
I have had my A8H set up around Adobe RGB for no the now and it's been just incredible! It's a give and take w/all these options. As long as u understand which settings is taking from one area and how to use another to give it back. The possibilities are endless and I feel more accurate to what people are really expecting out if these expensive products than they think👍
My TiVo Roamio is 1080P connected to A95K HDMI #1 input. My picture setting is Custom. How can I see if TV is upscaling image to 4K? There is no Display button on the remote to have the TV display current audio/video settings. Is there a trick to get the TV to show its settings? My Sony UBP-800m2 remote does have a display button that shows source and output. My Sony receiver also has a display button to show audio/video information. Why did Sony leave this out of their top of the line TV?
I use this on my ps5 all the time, when i play games with lower res than 4k, it almost as sharp as 4k. Pretty cool stuff.
Yeah it’s a must for gaming IMO so good, it made the Nintendo Switch look higher res
Even with 4k it makes stuff look better mate. I generally use set it to 25 / 30 % on my 2018 x900f and ps5 regardless of the game resolution. Even with 4k games like ghost of tsushima etc it just makes everything seem more detailed
Tried it out on a PS4 and it didn't help much
Looking forward to a video dedicated to Samsung Intelligent Picture mode. From my experience it's even better especially with streaming content.
Intelligent mode on Samsung is really great that also uses deep learning AI so the more your using it the better it’s getting it’s also getting better on its own with time. I love it on some low res SDR stuff it can really breathe life into the picture .
Nothing Samsung does compares to what sony and lg are doing. Besides brightness but that's it lol
@@miguelp619 Samsung top tvs tries too hard to be oled with inferior technology. Some Scene are great and others look way off.
Never bothered about those settings on my X90J, looks gimmicky to me. Now that you mentioned it I will give it a try. Thanks for pointing this out.
Yeah try it out I think it really helps with 1080p content
@@TechWithKG What about 4K content
I have the a90k Sony would you use this on gaming Xbox series x
When I purchased my Sony A80J Oled I went to Rting for calibration and they recommed to leave off so I did. I went back today and they stated to use it for lower resolutions. But it wasn't till I saw your video and it does bring out detail and I have 20/20 vision. I have it set on manual and 60 setting. My eyes don't lie. Thank you for bringing this very special setting to us. Great job.
RTings tend to be too stuck in their ways, just like many professionals.
Great tool to use especially for 1080 resolution or lower, 4K I don’t see that much benefit to my eye anyway. I like a lot of detail in any content that I watch so this is perfect for me on my A80j.
What setting do you have reality creation on the A80j?
@@tracer073 4K content I leave at 20 regular 1080 or lower 40-60
I find it quite useful for 4K too. It just seems to get even more detail out of already quality 4K videos/movies. On another note - something I found out during my tinkering with my A95K was that I should be using my glasses I've had for 10 years and have barely worn. I feel like I've been living life in 1080p rather than in 4K, who knew!? :D
@@MrTrentonMakesyou still have your A80J ?
Does it works on 120hz VRR ? any inputlag ?
One if the best features made! Been using it for last 6 years. This paired w/smooth gradation on high will give u a gradient free picture w/out losing the detail, because like U said it brings out fine detail differently than sharpness. It's amazing and makes your content look like true 4k used properly. Everyone should be using this, this is why Sony's processing is held into such high regard. But for most they go w/industry standards which are way outdated now, and tell you to turn off everything and that's right. DON'T DO THIS ! U paid for the high price product because of its abilities. Stop crippling your picture lol
Exactly how I feel, I think you’d be doing yourself a disservice by not at least trying it out.
Very good way of looking at it and it's so true. Things have changed tvs have changed the standards just really are outdated. It's why I love calibrators who adapt and ate trying new things. It's like you see them manipulate the curve snd all this other stuff and they show the results and it's bang on and they are like. It doesn't matter how I did it I got you those results. That's the thing if it's getting the results why does it matter? I mesn going by a book that's 10 years old or almost 10 years old doesn't make since now that things have changed so much.
@@reviewforthetube6485 facts! There are just better methods to be used to make a panel shine. It's a shame so many will not reap the results of amazing picture quality due to the standard they are told to make right. Break that wall down and see the whole picture I say👍
@@JtotheM completely agree
I agree but you also don’t want an overly enhanced picture with extremely saturated colors and an image so sharp that it looks “crispy” lol. Reality creation is something I do use because it just makes the picture a bit more clear. The default 10 works great for games and 20 for movies.
Good upscaling is underrated! Sony really got there hands on something.
Definitely! I think all manufacturers should use a lot of R&D time+money on upscaling since a lot of what people watch is sub-4k
@@TechWithKG right man I don't think some people even realize some of the 4k content isn't even true 4k lol which is why this processor seriously is important and why you can see the difference in even 4k content I have I mean I see things I've never ever seen before like wow wtf where did that come from and I'm not using reality creation enough to add crazy detail I'm using it normal 20 so it just makes things that are there pop out a bit more you know I tired it off and the tv still has more detial and sharpness then any other tv I've used those localized algorithms they have going on sre incredible man
@@reviewforthetube6485 unfortunately youtube compression is just horrific at this point, I can't stand 1080p youtube content, it looks how I remember 720p or less.
It's a game changer - I have Reality Creation on my 2014 Sony. It's a game changer. Literally transforms my PS4 into a PS4 Pro, possibly makes it even better.
Sony did a terrible job marketing it. You can't watch another TV once you see a Sony with Reality Creation.
@@techsamurai11 hi again!, how do can I know if my current Sony TV model has this feature or how to turn it on? Also what current models have it? Thanks!!! 🙏🏽
hi, I have an a90j purchased on offer, but especially for upscaling from 720 to 1080 and from 1080 to 4k automatically, but when I load a video in 720 I don't see any difference, a 100 euro bluray player works better.
Loved this man also loved you're live with B and with whisper earlier. Had a whole bunch of sony guys. Idc what numbers say the numbers don't tell the story on these tvs. It transforms in content compared to test patterns. It's absolutely outstanding and you will see it and it will be noticeable I'm the shootout. Even Vincent form HDTV test. Showed it got way closer to the actual reference monitor he had the bvm x300 it had better sharpness better saturation better highlights and just matched way more. The lg did good with near black that was it though he said. But dnice and others are able to calibrate that part way more then him. And out of the box the Sony is better anyways. Dnice posted up his calibrations it was spot on he even got color down to 0.4de and the gamma tracking was absolutely perfect. He said all 3 of his a90j got the same results so that says alot imo. He said he did not have the issues that Vincent did. I also saw av passions measurements being the same. So yeah shootout is gonna be great. Most of us know how great this tv is. And it does get closer to intent imo it brings out detail that got loss. You can't explain the a90j until you see what it does. It's insane so good man.
Your video also proved it adds detail with the stars alone man. One guy said it was impossible the other day it only adds sharpness someone who never used the tv keep in mind. Your video just proved it does. Amazing stuff. I think it's pretty crazy b the installer got that c1 83 inch for techno dad. He said the a90j was still brighter he said its ridiculous he was like it was more punchy. The c1 was good bit he was like the a90j was just that much better. Just shows you eyes tell the story in content. I know my eyes don't lie man. It's the most incredible tv I've seen and the a80j is there also. I still prefer the a90j that extra punch it has is intense at times. It also helps when you use it in darker more accurate modes. It allows it to be dark while still bumping up those highlights at times. It's incredible absolutely amazing.
A summary of avs forum n YT videos at best. He said this, that guy said that, This guy can get better tracking, that guy cannot. Just what you think it does for your picture alone is good enuf, dun need to justify it. Also, it cannot bring back details in the content that is lost. Only bring out details more which were obsesured/masked thru low rez and bit-staved content. Only the processer is choosing which parts to RC in the content thru it’s Cognetive process. Probably using its DOF algorithms to achieve this. Much like a Darby somewhat, if you’ve played with that.
@@ezhilezyldor6756 didn't mean it literally and nothing can bring back anything that would be exactly like omg this just brought back exact detail. As you said it's more of brining out detail in low bit starved content. The issue with that comment though is the higher the resolution the more details it has to work with. I think Vincent explained it best. The lower res older content he actually said it didn't make as much of a difference with I mean it still does bring out a bit more detail of course. But the higher res he did it on the more he noticed the details coming out even further. So just weird man tbh I have the a90j and in my experience. It does great with low res but it does even better with high res. The thing is it's alresdy so good at upscaling so when you compare with other tvs you reslly see it right off the bat. Higher res all tvs are pretty good at now. But the a90j brings out things you never even noticed. Imo it even adds detail to color. It's pretty nuts man. But don't take what I was saying literally about loss detial what I mean is detail that's there it's just bringing it out.
You can see it bring more detail out in the highest res most prestine content also. It isn't just bit starved or low res content. That's why you have to experience it yourself. A few people go naw it's impossible and it's like well its not because it's doing it. It's like the higher the res the more the xr has to work with. It can further push the envelope.
Yes, sure. I would love to experience it myself. Wanna see wats all the fuss about. But don’t wanna get my hopes up. All my contents on my future purchase of the A80J will be 4K streaming only. So hope it does it’s magic there. I just didn’t want to get all hyped up has I did not not like the effect of the Darby example I gave at mid to high levels. Thanks
@@ezhilezyldor6756 oh man you will live these tvs streaming it's all I watch brotha. I only watch streaming content lol. And tbh alot of it is with the internal apps since it's Google it's great. Only app you need to force wide color on us the TH-cam internal app that's it. Other then that they all work perfectly. Wait until you get to play the new Bravia core you get free movies when you buy the tv so you will love that it's really really high quality stuff.
@@ezhilezyldor6756 I was using a Darbee and an i-scan mini on my Sony 75XD9405. On my new X95J, I found the Darbee, even on a low setting of 25 introduced some artifacts so removed it from the chain. This, I'm putting down to the new Sony Cognitive processor.
Reality Creation is one of my favorite features on the A80J, love what it does to the image quality. That said, the recommendations to use it on 40-50 or higher seem outrageous to me. This over sharpens almost every piece of content I've seen. 1080p streaming faces just get waaaay over sharpened. I think a setting of manual 25 works good for most content.
Hi KG,
Hou about gaming and issues whit ABL..
Keep up the good work!
Just watch how dim it goes with any game with static huds. Laughably bad
I tested a lot of HDR games for 30 minutes and I didn’t see any noticeable dimming even scrubbing through the footage I have I can’t find moments where the camera caught it. that said Classy has and we have seen it on his stream as well.
Great explanation! On another topic how can i join the fantasy football league?
Thx
Reach out to B on Instagram @b_the_installer if you want to get in, if your too late sorry =/ but we do also have our the pick em league I have a community post about it
So what does Auto for Reality Creation do exactly? Does it pick a set value for whatever the source is, like say 50 for a SDR feed, 20 for HDR, or does it actually vary the RC number on the fly constantly for any type of source?
Don't expect any technical knowledge from this channel.
Yes it varies it on the fly. It works very well on exploitation material.
It is “Really creation” setting also applies for air channels? Because sometime air channels not good look in my Sony A80j 77”
Yeah it does apply to them as well it’s best to have it on auto for these, try the noise reduction features for the OTA channels
Kinda missed the opportunity to show the effect on low bitrate/streaming content.
Try going back and watching the Daniel Craig James bond "Casino Royale" (i think the DVD was only 1080) and crank Reality Creation high, it POPS!
Nice feature! I'm big fan of Sony TV since CRT.
Thanks!!
Is this tech with Kassem G?
I have an A90J and use my ps5 with say I’m playing COD at 120HZ and decide to have reality creation on at 50 and smooth gradient on high will that affect the latency and response time in game mode with the extra processing turned on ?
It will not add any input lag.
This feature is the main reason I bought a Sony tv.
👍👍
Should I get x95j or qn90a I like vibrant colors but does everything look sharp on sony
If you game get the QN90A if your a tv and movie only guy get the x95j can’t go wrong with either though
Reality Creation its amazing!!! I do preferer in auto mode.
Don't know about LG TVs. But if you own a Samsung TV, and you can enable PC mode to get the similar edge enhancement effect by increasing the sharpness (I have found the sharpness in PC mode performs differently compared to Non PC modes). Of course you will lose some customization such as colors.
No where near the same thing lol
I have Sony 65A95K and reality creation work so good but i stuck on 20 on it but it increasing picture quality a lot
So from the video, I got the impression that reality creation XR is an improvement to x-reality pro on other older Sony TVs? A comparison to older X1 ultimate, X1 extreme, X1 4K would be nice, please; if you have the Older Sony TVs in your studio. I like to turn on my reality creation on my Sony TV to the max.
I don’t have an old Sony unfortunately but I know multiple people including D-Nice has said that Reality Creation on the XR is way better than previous years.
Absolutely it's much much better compared to past. Before it could introduce more artifacting and also jaghies and just over sharpness things. This yeer that is not the case at all it does it beautifully it's a pretty massive upgrade from past man.
@@reviewforthetube6485 Time for a TV upgrade for me soon. I really like the Reality Creation feature.
@@kev3226 nice you would love it man. It's noticeable that's for sure.
@@kev3226 90 percent of the community won't admit it but all like live color and black adjust. So I will also tell you balck adjust works better on the Sony tvs this yeer also and live color is nuts. Low is just a little boost medium puts it over what lg does and high is like a Samsung. Up to you and your preference. The balck adjust just adds a ton of depth
Soo what the best setting for reality creation for sony tv?? Make auto? Manual?? If manual, how much resolution the best??
Try auto if it’s not enough try 25-35 find something that you like.
What's the name of the video with lions underneath the stars
The Wild its an LG demo
Wow
Do you know if reality creation works in game mode? I’d love to use it with content like ps3/ps4 gaming
It does it works quite well too
Left tv is A80j
Hey friend. You think this is ok to use with my games on ps5? It might look amazing
Absolutely I would suggest it to be honest it doesn't add any input lag.
Does it introduce motion artifacts though?
No it doesn't.
I set it at 20 for 4K, 40 for 1440p, 55 for 1080p and 65 for 720p
Hey, is Reality Creation directly usable in Game Mode? Because Input Lag...
Yeah it’s usable and it doesn’t add any input lag
Cool video man! But now I'm getting that fomo for a80j again hahahaha
lol yeah I miss it 😢
@@TechWithKG haha i was somewhat happy classy said a80j is not good for him gaming. But then you bring up reality creation and it sounds good again 😅 🤣
If I play ps3 games with 1080p, will they look better, and sharper instead of looking like blurry mess? Also, I use NVIDIA experience sharpness feature when it comes to pc games to make games look sharper. You mentioned that this feature is not sharpness enhancer but I actually want sharpness enhancer. Do you know if this tv or others have sharpeness enhancer?
It works really well on PS3 etc imo.
How does soccer look on it? Usually when watching soccer and you see the whole field, it's a visual mess on Verizon FIOS. Streaming is slightly better. Does it clear up the players and the ball?
A few users who have Sony's say it works really great for this, it can definitely clear up some things but if its the connection not much will help that.
@@TechWithKG Oh my god, my Sony from 2014 has it (I didn't know) and it was turned off for my TV input but turned on for all other inputs with a setting of Auto and a resolution of 65. Sony must have had this feature for a while now. I also have a secondary setting called Noise Filtering - do the new TVs have that? I just applied it on a wallpaper picture from Google TV and the difference in picture quality is night and day even on 1080p.
I also found a setting called Detail Enhancer under Advanced Settings which is set to Medium and that makes a big difference.
For soccer, it does clear it a bit but it's not enough to really become super clear because the ball is so tiny when looking at huge parts of the field.
One thing I've noticed, which no one seems to comment on. Reality Creation does a really good job noise of supressing picture noise, particularly noticeable on old, supposedly restored movies. I was watching the Blu Ray version of Hammer's 1958 Dracula movie, and out of the box its a a shivering mess in the corners of the shots away from the main action. A sort of mosquito noise overlay laid on top of the sky, the edges of the rooms etc. with lots of very dark scenes that don't hide the problem. With RC on (still experimenting with level, its set to 35% at the moment) it makes these much less intrusive, only noticeable if you are looking for them.
Would be grateful if for some comments re:
a. What level of RC do people recommend. I can't see much gain raising it above 40%, and above that it that seems to introduce a few artefacts around moving things. The default 20% reduces this noise, but not enough to make it unnoticeable. It is however better than the Auto setting.
b. I've turned off all of the noise reduction in the Blu Ray player, in the belief that its better to do the job once and let the TV handle it. Is this a sensible approach?
I found my sweet spot to be around 30
@@TechWithKG Thanks for replying. I tried your suggestion for a few days, but on balance prefer a higher setting of 35 to 40.
A good test case I've found is flickering background flames watched in a dark room - at low levels of RC a candle flame tends to be a ball of light, but at higher levels you can see the structure at the heart of the flame (e.g. the dark area surrounding the wick becomes much clearer). I found that 35 is noticeably better than 30. Moving from 35 to 40 helps a little, but no point in going above that.
@@roberthuntley1090 it's really content dependant what level to have Reality Creation at. Some content can look really bad at 30+, some content looks great at this setting, some content it's barely noticeable and you have to crank it up. I find for the majority of content a setting somewhere between 25 and 35 is sufficient. Going about this and content starts to look artificial usually, especially content with grain present or an image that's already fairly sharp. Cranking it up on a sharp image tends to make the image start to look like an oil painting. It can also start to artificially highlight blemishes and things on people's faces and it starts to look kind of strange.
I feel like it also increases brightness a little just by clearing up the image. Just feels more impactful
It doesn't increase brightness when gaming on the A90J or A80J Oled's..infact it does the opposite with no way of disabling the overly aggressive ABL
@@mrwalker6026 that is not the case on my A8H. I've seen in a few instances from tweaking settings the screen get very minor brightness adjustments and I mean very minor due to more detail enhancements cleaning up the image. It's not very noticible just mentioning that it has happened on my end on certain screen shots
@@mrwalker6026 damn dude stop acting like you know anything lol. YOU CANT TURN OFF ABL. you can turn off logo luminance same on the c8 the c9 the cx and the c1 lol all do it. But abl is always there regardless you don't get 500 nits full field by turning off logo luminance all logo luminance does it makes it so the panel doesn't dim when it sees a static logo that's all. Not abl you have no idea what you are talking about and you mix everything up. There is no abl switch there is pixel shift and logo luminance lg allows that to be turned off that's it. My c9 gaming isn't even close to the brightness of my a90j. The c1 I used also was much dimmer in sdr even when the a90j dims which isn't often it still is a bit brighter.
@@reviewforthetube6485 I said there's no way of disabling ABL...and yes there's no Logo luminance disabling either on the Sony's it will dim your screen when detecting logo's or hud's in game and sports etc with no control on the user end forcing the screen especially on the A80J I know of personally much dimmer than a C1
@@mrwalker6026 you have been saying everywhere lg can turn off abl even on whisper status comment section to the person asking how abl was on the c1 lol stop playing I know personally the a90j is much brighter then the c1 my results were identical to KG and b the installer results 😄 😉 the a80j is the same brightness as the g1 keep in mind classy is using the g1 vs the a80j he said it fluctustes from dimming with logos but overall it was just as bright I'm sdr it's still brighter it's just the fluctuation got to him most it won't because it's not that often but some are sensitive hell whisper still hasn't hasn't noticed it on his a80j and kg showed it only does it when sitting still once moving the brightness goes back up the a90j has much less abl then all of the tvs
For a mid tier Television I think you get a lot of bang for your Buck. I have 2 , a H.D and the a80 J, but I wish I bought a larger screen, only have a 50”. Will watch for their next offering and price.
What does the XR processor offer that something like the Nividia Shield AI upscaling or LG's AI and super resolution doesn't curious?
@@TechCody113 Yeah there seems to be a lot of people blowing up the hype train on the Sony A90J/A80J regarding the XR processor....
However I can't overlook the fact they still don't use a proprietary SOC like LG and Samsung especially when gaming is so very popular now
@@TechCody113 There's definitely a sense of Sony highlighting picture quality with the XR processor to take the heat away from its shortcomings regarding gaming features and lies about VRR ,120 hz performance and Dolby vision gaming
XR Processor is a separate chip than the Android SoC in the A80/90J. The upscaling to my understanding is algorithms based on trained ML implemented in ASIC, there are 3rd party apps such as madVR (useful for LG OLEDs and Samsung QLEDs) and mpv that can provide similar quality to XR.
I prefer the raw original signal output
sounds like some dlss from nvidia where they improve low res content to another res.
Can someone tell me where to find the darn turn on / turn off button? It is hidden, manual is very unclear.
On the A80J? if you're facing the tv, on the left hand side where the usb etc is, look at the very top, it's a tiny little square button w/ the power symbol on it. I had to look it up myself!
Even on my old x900f reality creation was extremely impressive. Not sure how much better it is now. I'll soon find out when I have my x94j but on my x900f 25/30% for games made everything so much better and retailed without the ugly high sharpening effect that regular sharpening has. In movies you could legit go has high as 100% and it felt like you could count the pores on the faces of actors from viewing distances lol
Hey bro can you please do comparison between Sony A80j and Sony A8h I want to buy one of them. Or you can suggest me which one should I go for? I'm not really into gaming I just need the best picture quality. Thank you. Love from India 🇮🇳❤
I can’t do a side by side but I can tell you the A80J is significantly better. I haven’t talked to anyone else who’s seen both that has said otherwise .
@@TechWithKG Oh alright. I've compared both the TV's on rtings website and got to know that both TV's perform the same, however the new one that is the A80J is good for gaming while the A8H is a bit brighter in both SDR as well as HDR than A80J. So I'm confused between which one to buy. I don't care about the pricing cuz they cost almost the same.
I have the A8H for almost a year now and can say confidently it's amazing. It's also priced very highly still though. So for the price comparison unless u see the a8h drop to 1799.00 which is what I grabbed it at. The a80j would be the better choice for newest features. Have some vids posted on PQ if want to check out✌
@@JtotheM yes I've been through all of your videos, I'm one of your subscriber✌🏼
@@rohankoshti7240 oh nice! Thanks u🙏