If I remember correctly the reason why there aren't many mods for Colors Ultimate is because many modders straight up refused to mod the game because they were fed up with Sega releasing broken or straight up bad games and people just assuming "modders will fix it"
This makes sense. Honestly, that's a big issue with a lot of AAA games these days. "We'll fix it later. Or maybe we won't, because you already bought it either way." Ugh.
@@spontmanSims 4 comes to mind. EDIT: 6:25 Wait, I'm just seeing now that Blind Squirrel Games ported Sims 4 to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Wow. No wonder that version is worse than PC.
I believe the boost and stomp being switched is because that's how it was in the Wii version. It's not as noticeable using a GameCube controller, but you can definitely notice it using a classic controller.
"Sonic Colours Ultimate" means something deeper. It's the ultimate blast of colours, so it's no wonder it delivers seizure-inducing spectacle unseen since an episode of Pokemon from 1997.
@@clasherinotheone5249 One person emulated the game and everyone jumped to conclusions. Turns out the glitches worked on actual Switch hardware before the patches, and there's video proof of such on TH-cam.
A straight simple port would have been better than this. Interesting that this was made in Godot. I've been learning to develop in that. I hope you cover the DS version. I adored that version and it REALLY got me into Sonic.
@@traviscunningham7062 agreed on the DS part that version is just amazing But I would actually choose ultimate over wii cause of the satisfying homing attack actually and having more boost makes the game way more fun
I actually tried to get into modding this game recently. The game engine being Godot, as you mentioned, actually makes things pretty hard to work with from my (limited) experience since you can’t just edit the files, and no tools that I know of have been developed to make them easier to work with. On top of that, modders don’t really care about this game at all from what I have seen. At this point I can just hope, but with school starting soon I doubt I’ll be able to do anything with this game that I want to. Here’s hoping some other more experienced modders find the will, as you said.
I played this game on xbox a few weeks (? I forgot so i dont have the best approximation other than it was after the massive 10gb bugfix which mind you is bigger than colors ultimate itself) and i faced little to no issues, the only things that really rattle my bones per say is how cranked up the bloom is and the fact they coated the entire game in Vaseline. I also have one theory about how the game switched the boost and stomp buttons, this probably has something to do with original colors because if you map the buttons on say an xbox controller to the gamecube controller based on the button names then the same exact issue arises so maybe somehow that had involvement. Nonetheless the remaster is subpar at best.
In Sweet Mountain act I don’t remember, but it’s the one with the jade wisp where you mentioned you got soft locked. You aren’t actually soft locked, you can slide under a gap to get into the next part of the intended jade wisp section. Still doesn’t justify how shattered the port is
I would massively prefer a simple 1080p and/or 4k port of the Wii version without compromising the polish for a new engine, and that ironically would of taken nowhere near as much effort and resources.
dude im glad i had experience back in my days on Wii definitely 0 bugs encountered even though i didnt finish it i still feel like i have experienced fine enough i thought looking up this game on modern devices and this is pretty disappointing i thought i can relive my childhood
If you told me that in the future games we played over a decade ago will not only be re-released but also be in it's worst version I would've said, really? I get to play Sonic Adventure 2 remastered?! No child, think lower expectations
Someone only recently started modding the game to fix many of these issues, and it seems pretty promising so far. I don't know to what extent they'll fix the game because there's so much wrong with it, but hopefully it'll become the best way to play the game eventually. That makes me really happy, because playing the game on Dolphin while still much better, comes with its own issues. Hopefully this'll become a SADX situation.
5:22 You’re not. You have to slide to the left of you, and it’ll take you down to where there’s a Red Ring, which, once you collect, the game provides you with another Jade Wisp to escape. Also, is it bad that I enjoyed this remaster? Yea, it probably is. It’s still sad that it’ll probably never be touched again by the developers.
It was abandoned the instant SEGA let Blind Squirrel remaster it I really wanna avoid emulation so I can collect these games on my Steam account and complete them with achievements, so I typically wait a while for the modding community to fix the Sanic games I guess I'll be waiting a lil while longer
3:57 with the Planet Wisp remix, you do y get it unless you pay for DLC and the remixes can’t be turned off, so you can pay extra to permanently make the game worse
Could’ve been the best most faithful remaster of the Wii game possible, it still would’ve sucked that it doesn’t have the DS content, that’s still the best version. How could they call a game the “ultimate” version when it’s missing half the gameplay and story content from the original release? Also unrelated, even though I actually prefer the visuals of Ultimate, I still would never recommend it over the Wii version because the game feels way better with a Wii remote + nunchuck than a standard controller. a good example that it was designed for that controller is the full second delay when you activate a wisp (which is not in the DS version btw) which exists to offset the fact that you activate it by flicking the Wii remote. It’s like the spin from Mario Galaxy, feels great on the Wii, but feels sluggish and underpowered with a button, because it was designed for a waggle, not a button. Same thing with different actions like drifting and quickstepping being contextual rather than a part of Sonic’s moveset. Worked on the Wii, but awkward feeling now.
At least I don't think Unleashed is gonna face the same fate as Colors. Unleashed was given patches for xbox series x, so a remaster would just be confusing.
I wanted to get this game on my Birthday and then it was an EGS Exclusive Fuck this game, man, I'd rather pirate it than to spend money on it, even when it's on Steam
Wait didn't the game finally fixed with update patch 3.0?? I swear I've seen so many TH-camrs tested it this game after that pwtch and it was running ok.
I haven't played this version or the original but one thing I can talk about is the music. I firmly believe fans would not be as hard on the new remixes if they were played in acts 4,5 and 6 or you could change to the original ost at any point. In a vacuum without comparing every single pointless detail, the soundtrack is good and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
I mean, if you enjoy it, that's great. I personally think the mix sounds incredibly amateur in the remixes, and I dislike the loud pianos in Tropical Resort, the over-the-top dance loop in Planet Wisp, and the much less punchy trumpets in Sweet Mountain. The game actually plays the original OST in some levels (and you can switch to it in the settings, though that wasn't a thing before the patches), but it just throws me off due to the quality gulf between the originals and the remixes. I just can't stand the new tracks, even by themselves.
@@spontman For me mixing is something my ears are not trained in so anything that takes a decent effort to notice I won't notice. Unless it's something blatantly obvious mixing doesn't come up as a problem for me. So I don't hear any problems with mixing. I see these remixes as different takes of some of the songs. Tropical Resort act 1 remix playing on act 4 is interesting because it's a completely different take on act 1. If the original act 1 plays on act 1 and the very different remix plays on act 4 then I don't see a problems with the style being completely different.
@@mojojojox5043 It'd be a lot better that way, but no, unfortunately the remixes usually play on the first few levels, then the original tracks will occasionally be used for the extra levels. The remix of Tropical Resort Act 1 is the first track you'll hear when you start a new game.
@@spontman That's kind of my original point, the main problem with the songs imo is where they play. If that was fixed there would not be as much dislike for it.
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@@spontman Makes me think the studio who developed this port had a contract to get this made, but not to update, patch or add any sanity fixes. I think I'm just most bothered by the cost of the port. The original game was why I had a modded Wii for so long.
The buggiest sonic release ever. A terrible remaster of one of the best sonic games. This is a really good example of how lack of quality control can ruin a great video game. Just like comparing 06 with p06. Imagine if this was how Colours originally released back on wii. It may not be perfect or liked by everyone, but how would the general reception and legacy of this game have been if this was what we got back in 2010? And what is even funnier is how much people debated about the glitches. Some even denied they existed. Did anyone say that back in 2006? And what about Rise of Lyric? Did we really get another train wreck in the franchise? Just wait another 8 years for the next one! Talk about lowering standards... History really does repeat itself!
@@spontman what I said what I said after the fixes its sonic colors with a better homing attack thats not ignoring the hate thats just describing the game but I guess you never liked sonic colors anyway
@@spontman but you are now backing off huh ? I just think its weird how everybody still bashes on the game instead bash the development and the circumstances made by sega
SEGA takes some accountability for not double-checking the record of the third-party developer they're outsourcing to Blind Squirrel Games already had a not so good track record when it comes to remasters even before Sonic Colors: Ultimate, and not to mention the work environment there apparently wasn't so good either Had SEGA either done Colors: Ultimate in-house (probably via another one of SEGA's other dev teams (if any of them are capable) since Sonic Team were still occupied with Frontiers at the time) or they outsourced to a more competent third party dev, things probably wouldn't gone so bad
My humble opinion this game need to get delayed because to me this felt like a late advertisement for the first Sonic movie especially if you pre-ordered the physical version. Me personally they should have delayed this movie to come out alongside the Second Son movie since that had baby Sonic in it. Given the people that working on Sonic Frontiers and Sonic origins and extra year to polish things up as well. And the main reason why this game don't have a lot of mods on PC because it came out on it at the epic game store first. And that's the problem with most modern games not just say that but the people are working on games are always forced to get it out out of Pacific time and then polish it up later. And also in the PC version of this game they basically had all the files and stuff to basically put everything in 4k including the cutscenes but just didn't have the time. And every version had their own glitch problem you're more likely that you're safety to corrupted if you play on the PlayStation version the seizure glitch I believe mainly only happened on Nintendo switch. The Xbox version what's the one I own didn't really have a lot of problems like the other version due to the DirectX technology that's also used for the PC version. also the game possibly could have ran 60 frames per second on switch if they would have had a better stable engine.
It's ironic how Ultimate would have been a better release had they just been lazier and just emulated the original with upscaled graphics. The trash remixes, ungodly amounts of bloom, and terrible lighting make Colors Ultimate completely unenjoyable for me. Also, quick-stepping STILL being mapped to the same thumbstick as walking is infuriating! They could have easily made the quickstep work with the bumpers like Unleashed, Generations, and Forces.
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If I remember correctly the reason why there aren't many mods for Colors Ultimate is because many modders straight up refused to mod the game because they were fed up with Sega releasing broken or straight up bad games and people just assuming "modders will fix it"
This makes sense. Honestly, that's a big issue with a lot of AAA games these days. "We'll fix it later. Or maybe we won't, because you already bought it either way." Ugh.
@@spontmanSims 4 comes to mind.
EDIT: 6:25 Wait, I'm just seeing now that Blind Squirrel Games ported Sims 4 to PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. Wow. No wonder that version is worse than PC.
@@jordan-the-hound2323 Wow lol
I believe the boost and stomp being switched is because that's how it was in the Wii version. It's not as noticeable using a GameCube controller, but you can definitely notice it using a classic controller.
"Sonic Colours Ultimate" means something deeper. It's the ultimate blast of colours, so it's no wonder it delivers seizure-inducing spectacle unseen since an episode of Pokemon from 1997.
It's a true wourk of modern art.
That was done on switch emulators yes 💀
@@clasherinotheone5249 One person emulated the game and everyone jumped to conclusions. Turns out the glitches worked on actual Switch hardware before the patches, and there's video proof of such on TH-cam.
@@spontman I know but it won’t happen in a normal playthrough like you have to purposefully activate it
A straight simple port would have been better than this.
Interesting that this was made in Godot. I've been learning to develop in that.
I hope you cover the DS version. I adored that version and it REALLY got me into Sonic.
it because godot is new, and wasn't ready for consoles.
Hopefully with all the funding from the unity engine fallout they can fix the vulkan renderer and other stuff.
its sad to think that if you want to have a genuine good experience with sonic coloUrs, you're forced to emulate it.
How wrong lol hahaha
Or play it on the Wii or the far superior DS version.
@@traviscunningham7062 agreed on the DS part that version is just amazing
But I would actually choose ultimate over wii cause of the satisfying homing attack actually and having more boost makes the game way more fun
@@traviscunningham7062Colors DS is okay. Wii is better.
@@clasherinotheone5249just use a gecko code for unlimited boost
Now I'm scared for an Adventure 1/2 remake/remaster, as well as an Unleashed remaster, if they ever happen. How can I trust SEGA still?
They announced that they are remastering those games.
@@traviscunningham7062 ...Where?
One of my TH-camr friends said so, but I don’t believe him.
Why would they remaster those? There is no reason. Those games are super broken and poor
I actually tried to get into modding this game recently. The game engine being Godot, as you mentioned, actually makes things pretty hard to work with from my (limited) experience since you can’t just edit the files, and no tools that I know of have been developed to make them easier to work with. On top of that, modders don’t really care about this game at all from what I have seen. At this point I can just hope, but with school starting soon I doubt I’ll be able to do anything with this game that I want to. Here’s hoping some other more experienced modders find the will, as you said.
Aw HECK yeah, I wake up to a new Spontman video, now THIS is epic-ness. This is the best thing ever.
I played this game on xbox a few weeks (? I forgot so i dont have the best approximation other than it was after the massive 10gb bugfix which mind you is bigger than colors ultimate itself) and i faced little to no issues, the only things that really rattle my bones per say is how cranked up the bloom is and the fact they coated the entire game in Vaseline. I also have one theory about how the game switched the boost and stomp buttons, this probably has something to do with original colors because if you map the buttons on say an xbox controller to the gamecube controller based on the button names then the same exact issue arises so maybe somehow that had involvement. Nonetheless the remaster is subpar at best.
Nice to see a nice video such as this with music from Accelio! Man, what a combination I never knew I needed.
Nice video! You seem pretty chill 😎
I have the Switch version, and the most significant glitch I’ve encountered was the 99,999 tokens glitch. Other than that, it runs very smooth.
If you have it, did you experienced any FPS drop? I've heard that this version has FPS drop on it's latest patch.
SEGA: Masters of fucking up rereleases
In Sweet Mountain act I don’t remember, but it’s the one with the jade wisp where you mentioned you got soft locked. You aren’t actually soft locked, you can slide under a gap to get into the next part of the intended jade wisp section. Still doesn’t justify how shattered the port is
I would massively prefer a simple 1080p and/or 4k port of the Wii version without compromising the polish for a new engine, and that ironically would of taken nowhere near as much effort and resources.
Agreed. Just like Mario 3D All Stars.
dude im glad i had experience back in my days on Wii definitely 0 bugs encountered even though i didnt finish it i still feel like i have experienced fine enough i thought looking up this game on modern devices and this is pretty disappointing i thought i can relive my childhood
If you told me that in the future games we played over a decade ago will not only be re-released but also be in it's worst version I would've said, really? I get to play Sonic Adventure 2 remastered?!
No child, think lower expectations
Someone only recently started modding the game to fix many of these issues, and it seems pretty promising so far. I don't know to what extent they'll fix the game because there's so much wrong with it, but hopefully it'll become the best way to play the game eventually. That makes me really happy, because playing the game on Dolphin while still much better, comes with its own issues. Hopefully this'll become a SADX situation.
Great video👍
1:26 literally clown honking noises
I love your vids
5:22 You’re not. You have to slide to the left of you, and it’ll take you down to where there’s a Red Ring, which, once you collect, the game provides you with another Jade Wisp to escape.
Also, is it bad that I enjoyed this remaster? Yea, it probably is. It’s still sad that it’ll probably never be touched again by the developers.
I got this on ps5 and it worked gine for me
I played this game at launch and I personally didn't have any issues with it. I played it normally and everything was fine. I got lucky I guess.
1:16 probably the funniest part of the entire video
It was abandoned the instant SEGA let Blind Squirrel remaster it
I really wanna avoid emulation so I can collect these games on my Steam account and complete them with achievements, so I typically wait a while for the modding community to fix the Sanic games
I guess I'll be waiting a lil while longer
3:57 with the Planet Wisp remix, you do y get it unless you pay for DLC and the remixes can’t be turned off, so you can pay extra to permanently make the game worse
Could’ve been the best most faithful remaster of the Wii game possible, it still would’ve sucked that it doesn’t have the DS content, that’s still the best version. How could they call a game the “ultimate” version when it’s missing half the gameplay and story content from the original release?
Also unrelated, even though I actually prefer the visuals of Ultimate, I still would never recommend it over the Wii version because the game feels way better with a Wii remote + nunchuck than a standard controller. a good example that it was designed for that controller is the full second delay when you activate a wisp (which is not in the DS version btw) which exists to offset the fact that you activate it by flicking the Wii remote.
It’s like the spin from Mario Galaxy, feels great on the Wii, but feels sluggish and underpowered with a button, because it was designed for a waggle, not a button.
Same thing with different actions like drifting and quickstepping being contextual rather than a part of Sonic’s moveset. Worked on the Wii, but awkward feeling now.
At least I don't think Unleashed is gonna face the same fate as Colors. Unleashed was given patches for xbox series x, so a remaster would just be confusing.
Playing it now I really enjoyed it, idk.
sonic colors is sonic colors
a sandwich with poop on it is still a sandwich
But it's still sandwich. Just d i f f e r e n t .
@@TailsSupremeYTI can’t tell if that’s satire or not lol
I wanted to get this game on my Birthday
and then it was an EGS Exclusive
Fuck this game, man, I'd rather pirate it than to spend money on it, even when it's on Steam
I played on PS4 and think it's fine
Wait didn't the game finally fixed with update patch 3.0??
I swear I've seen so many TH-camrs tested it this game after that pwtch and it was running ok.
Running okay ≠ Fixed. As I hammered home multiple times in this video, this remaster has way more issues than just the glitches.
6:30 oh so that’s why the lighting is worse then a Wii game’s
the reason modders have barely touched it is because they were sick of everyone expecting them to fix every broken release as if their obligation to.
I got it at launch on Xbox and didn't encounter any issues.
Switch version is kinda unplayable though.
Switch version still unplayable today?
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this is what all video games should be.
This game makes Mario 3D All Stars look actually good.
*Damn*
Ain’t that the truth?
Why is 3D all stars bad?
Its bad in the sense that its just the games with no extra content. Its just three games with no added features. @kyledodson2992
I haven't played this version or the original but one thing I can talk about is the music. I firmly believe fans would not be as hard on the new remixes if they were played in acts 4,5 and 6 or you could change to the original ost at any point. In a vacuum without comparing every single pointless detail, the soundtrack is good and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
I mean, if you enjoy it, that's great. I personally think the mix sounds incredibly amateur in the remixes, and I dislike the loud pianos in Tropical Resort, the over-the-top dance loop in Planet Wisp, and the much less punchy trumpets in Sweet Mountain. The game actually plays the original OST in some levels (and you can switch to it in the settings, though that wasn't a thing before the patches), but it just throws me off due to the quality gulf between the originals and the remixes. I just can't stand the new tracks, even by themselves.
@@spontman For me mixing is something my ears are not trained in so anything that takes a decent effort to notice I won't notice. Unless it's something blatantly obvious mixing doesn't come up as a problem for me. So I don't hear any problems with mixing. I see these remixes as different takes of some of the songs. Tropical Resort act 1 remix playing on act 4 is interesting because it's a completely different take on act 1. If the original act 1 plays on act 1 and the very different remix plays on act 4 then I don't see a problems with the style being completely different.
@@mojojojox5043 It'd be a lot better that way, but no, unfortunately the remixes usually play on the first few levels, then the original tracks will occasionally be used for the extra levels. The remix of Tropical Resort Act 1 is the first track you'll hear when you start a new game.
@@spontman That's kind of my original point, the main problem with the songs imo is where they play. If that was fixed there would not be as much dislike for it.
@@mojojojox5043 Perhaps. Personally I don't like listening to them in general, but that's just me.
I played Colors Ultimate, and it just plays worst than Generations. At least in Generations, turning is smooth
The biggest problem with playing this game on Dolphin is that using the 60fps AR code will cause glitches of its own
That pipe at the beginning of Aquarium Park...
@@spontman exactly
@@spontman Oh yeah, I think I encountered that in my playthrough. Was still able to slowly make my way through it.
May 27, 1997. This day will go down in Texan history as one of the worst tornado disasters of all time---- OMG WRONG SCRIPT WRONG SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bro this video and the last one had the discord ping quietly in the first 15 seconds and it pisses me off
Maybe close Discord?
@@spontman no i mean ur video has a discord ping in it, i rewinded to check
@@TurboNZ I'm dying to know where you think it is because I know for a fact I didn't put one in there lol
@@spontman its very early on ill listen again soon with my headphones
Is this everyone's experience of the port though? Latest version? On every console it's buggy and bad and glitchy?
Some of the more egregious bugs have been patched, but as I made clear in the video, this port has many problems beyond just that.
@@spontman Makes me think the studio who developed this port had a contract to get this made, but not to update, patch or add any sanity fixes.
I think I'm just most bothered by the cost of the port. The original game was why I had a modded Wii for so long.
@@Rakadeja Yeah the price for this thing was unacceptable.
Can you do sonic the fighters next
Honestly, I don't give a 💩 what people say, even though this game is broken as hell, I LOVE this game
Sad...
The buggiest sonic release ever. A terrible remaster of one of the best sonic games. This is a really good example of how lack of quality control can ruin a great video game. Just like comparing 06 with p06. Imagine if this was how Colours originally released back on wii. It may not be perfect or liked by everyone, but how would the general reception and legacy of this game have been if this was what we got back in 2010? And what is even funnier is how much people debated about the glitches. Some even denied they existed. Did anyone say that back in 2006? And what about Rise of Lyric? Did we really get another train wreck in the franchise? Just wait another 8 years for the next one! Talk about lowering standards... History really does repeat itself!
I mean to be honest its after all the fixes a good game and its just sonic colors with the better homing attack
Ignoring the problems doesn't make them not exist.
@@spontman what I said what I said after the fixes its sonic colors with a better homing attack thats not ignoring the hate thats just describing the game but I guess you never liked sonic colors anyway
It’s literally the same game now
@@clasherinotheone5249 You don't seem interested in having a sincere conversation, so I'll just leave it here.
@@spontman but you are now backing off huh ? I just think its weird how everybody still bashes on the game instead bash the development and the circumstances made by sega
SEGA takes some accountability for not double-checking the record of the third-party developer they're outsourcing to
Blind Squirrel Games already had a not so good track record when it comes to remasters even before Sonic Colors: Ultimate, and not to mention the work environment there apparently wasn't so good either
Had SEGA either done Colors: Ultimate in-house (probably via another one of SEGA's other dev teams (if any of them are capable) since Sonic Team were still occupied with Frontiers at the time) or they outsourced to a more competent third party dev, things probably wouldn't gone so bad
My humble opinion this game need to get delayed because to me this felt like a late advertisement for the first Sonic movie especially if you pre-ordered the physical version. Me personally they should have delayed this movie to come out alongside the Second Son movie since that had baby Sonic in it. Given the people that working on Sonic Frontiers and Sonic origins and extra year to polish things up as well. And the main reason why this game don't have a lot of mods on PC because it came out on it at the epic game store first. And that's the problem with most modern games not just say that but the people are working on games are always forced to get it out out of Pacific time and then polish it up later. And also in the PC version of this game they basically had all the files and stuff to basically put everything in 4k including the cutscenes but just didn't have the time. And every version had their own glitch problem you're more likely that you're safety to corrupted if you play on the PlayStation version the seizure glitch I believe mainly only happened on Nintendo switch. The Xbox version what's the one I own didn't really have a lot of problems like the other version due to the DirectX technology that's also used for the PC version. also the game possibly could have ran 60 frames per second on switch if they would have had a better stable engine.
The only one that truly blesses us is the Lord.
Also yes this game is buggy and modern sonic as always feel stiff since unleased
When a crap game, gets even crappier 😂
It's ironic how Ultimate would have been a better release had they just been lazier and just emulated the original with upscaled graphics. The trash remixes, ungodly amounts of bloom, and terrible lighting make Colors Ultimate completely unenjoyable for me.
Also, quick-stepping STILL being mapped to the same thumbstick as walking is infuriating! They could have easily made the quickstep work with the bumpers like Unleashed, Generations, and Forces.